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The Panic Containment Team Speaks: Ebola Poses "Little Risk" To The US, CDC Claims: Is It Wrong?
In the aftermath of the news from the past week that at least two US citizens have been infected with the Ebola virus, a very unpleasant if nagging question has appeared: can the virus spread to the US? According to NBC, "the Ebola virus, which has infected two U.S. humanitarian workers in Liberia, is only a short plane ride from any city on Earth. But federal health officials say it’s not a big worry for most Americans."
Maybe it should be.
Recall that last week's Ebola stunner came when not only did an Ebola patient die from the disease in the world's 4th most populous city, Nigeria's Lagos, but when he was intercepted while at the airport: how many people he may have come in contact with is anyone's guess even if the government swears they have all been quarantined.
It’s the first time this virus has moved by jet, even though public health experts love to warn that any disease is just a flight away from anywhere with an airport.
Perhaps the fact that the CDC had to go out as far as making an official statement for the record shows just how increasingly worried Americans are. According to the Centers for Disease Control, "Ebola poses little risk to the U.S. general population,” Stephan Monroe of CDC’s National Center for Emerging & Zoonotic Infectious Diseases told reporters in a conference call. It’s because you have to be in direct contact with someone who is ill to become infected.
“Transmission is through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person,” Monroe said. That includes vomit, blood or diarrhea. “Individuals who are not symptomatic are not contagious,” he said.
The incubation period can last for as long as 21 days, meaning it can take 21 days for someone to develop symptoms after being in contact with an infected person. So in theory, someone could be infected and get on a plane to travel to the U.S. before he or she got sick. But the odds of this are low.
There’s no need to control travel in and out of the U.S. CDC says. It has quarantine stations in major airports and agents can forcibly isolate or quarantine people with symptoms of Ebola and other diseases such as cholera, tuberculosis, plague or bird flu.
How does the CDC hope to contain the potential threat? Apparently so far the first and only line of defense is... interrogation? Careful questioning can usually rule out a disease such as Ebola. In this case, it would be asking people if they’ve been to West Africa in recent weeks or in close contact with someone who had been and who was ill. One wonders how honest potential carriers would be if they knew the rest of their short lives could be spent under CDC quarantine.
"U.S. health experts pulled this off with MERS -- the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome virus, which was carried into the country twice by travelers, both of whom recovered fully without infecting anybody else."
And another denial:
“The likelihood of this spreading out of West Africa is very low,” Monroe said. While it’s possible someone ill could get on a plane, they couldn’t spread the virus to someone who just happened to be sitting nearby. “It is very unlikely they would be able to spread disease to their fellow passengers,” Monroe said. CDC worries more about airborne viruses such as measles, which can spread silently.
And even more attempts to contain any possible panic:
“People are not infectious prior to becoming symptomatic,” he stressed. And once in the U.S., doctors should isolate a patient quickly. “We are fairly confident that the standard of care in the U.S. would prevent much of the transmission of the virus were to show up here,” Monroe said.
“We do not anticipate this will spread in the US if an infected person is hospitalized here but we are taking action now by alerting healthcare workers in the US and reminding them how to isolate and test suspected patients while following strict infection control procedures.” CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden added in a statement.
The CDC is correct about the infectious phase. The problem is that while Ebola symptoms are quite glaring, such as fever, throwing up, and general pain, only about half of all Ebola cases show the bleeding that so frightened people, and that’s only in very advanced cases. The rest of the symptoms can be confused for your garden variety flu.
Still, despite all assurances, the CDC has issued a “level 2” alert, which cautions people in the affected region to avoid contact with anyone who seems infected. CDC also issued a health alert, a reminder to doctors in the U.S. "Ebola virus disease poses little risk to the U.S. general population at this time. However, U.S. healthcare workers are advised to be alert for signs and symptoms of Ebola virus disease in patients with compatible illness who have a recent (within 21 days) travel history to countries where the outbreak is occurring, and should consider isolation of those patients meeting these criteria, pending diagnostic testing," it reads.
Bloomberg has some more details on the potential spread of the disease which has so far managed to spread beyond Africa only once, but as Bloomberg notes, "that doesn’t mean it can’t happen now, infectious disease experts warn."
The symptoms appear from two days to three weeks after infection, meaning it’s possible for an infected person who doesn’t feel ill to board a plane, said Ben Neuman, a virologist at the University of Reading in the U.K. Since Ebola in its earliest stages can resemble nothing more than flu, no one else would know either, he said.
The symptoms appear from two days to three weeks after infection, meaning it’s possible for an infected person who doesn’t feel ill to board a plane, said Ben Neuman, a virologist at the University of Reading in the U.K. Since Ebola in its earliest stages can resemble nothing more than flu, no one else would know either, he said.
“One person per plane load would have something that you would possibly call flu-like symptoms,” Neuman said in a telephone interview. “Do you want to detain all those people coming into your airport? Do you have the manpower to do that, and send them all for testing? It’s expensive, and difficult.”
The question of trans-continent infection became more key this week after Patrick Sawyer, a Liberian government worker who took a July 20 flight to Lagos, Nigeria, died from Ebola five days later. His death gave Africa’s most populous nation its first case, a frightening hint at how global air travel may enable the spread of disease.
“We’ve known it’s a risk ever since the beginning of the Ebola outbreak, and now it’s finally happened,” Neuman said. “He could have gone anywhere on this flight.”
The 1994 case:
Fruit bats are thought to be the natural host of Ebola virus, according to the WHO. Monkeys, chimpanzees, gorillas, porcupines and forest antelope can also be infected, and human outbreaks can begin when people eat the meat of infected animals, according to the WHO.
The only case in which an Ebola victim was known to be taken out of Africa by aircraft came in 1994, when a 34-year-old Swiss zoologist became infected with the virus while performing an autopsy on a chimpanzee in Ivory Coast.
Eight days later, she developed chills, then diarrhea, an all-body rash, temporary memory loss and was flown to Switzerland by air ambulance for treatment, accompanied by health workers wearing masks, gloves and gowns. She recovered without infecting anyone else.
The Ebola outbreak is expected to go on for some time and will be difficult to stop as it can easily “re-ignite” from even one case, the CDC’s Monroe said. Even if there are no new cases, it would be 42 days before health workers would be sure the outbreak was over.
But the biggest smoking gun, and perhaps the reason why 2014 may be the new 1994, is this:
wife & children of a Texas doc working in Liberia w/ Ebola patients, returned to America last week, days b4 Brantly -came down w/ Ebola WTF?
— Robert Passarella (@robpas) July 28, 2014
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Actually those camps are intended for the unfortunates whom get infected.
They will be disposed of.
They used to be called "Pest Houses" short for pestilence. I supposed FEMA Camp has a better ring to it.
Hearing someone screaming "Allahu Akbar" or "ebola", what would make you run the fastest? For me it's the latter.
So many opportunities on crowded public transportation. He came, he coughed, we died.
So, Racial Profiling is "out" for flights from this region?
That would be too cruel and arbitrary, right?
How many mutations will it take before it goes airborne in humans? I suspect, not many.
Chances are good there will be thousands of 'bio-reactors' by the end of the year. Some of them will be carriers of other viruses. Nature is creative...
There have been no mutations since Ebola was discovered in 1976. Just because it hasn't mutated doesn't mean it won't, but clearly it does not mutate easily.
What gets me are the assurances that Ebola comes from eating bats. They think. Also, that transmission occurs via bodily fluids. They think. The fact is, they don't really know a lot about Ebola. They aren't entirely sure of the various means of transmission, and they don't understand fully how the disease is transmitted.
It has been recommended in this forum before and I will second it... The Hot Zone is an excellent book on this topic.
..."There have been no mutations since Ebola was discovered in 1976"...
Hummm. Ok. Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe they weren't so much as mutations as just things we didn't (and still don't) understand about something we don't want to be on the same fucking continent with?
You might want to reread that book. You seem to have forgotten much of it. (I just did, yesterday)
I could re read The Stand and come out with the same gist.
Both boiled down to "a matter of when, not if"
What's your point? It has mutated and will again. Strain = mutated variety. That's what they do.
There are different strains therefore those are fucking MUTATIONS.
Furthermore Ebola has not ever been in a Large Population before with Millions of possible hosts. In small isolated populations it burns out rather rapidly. However with a plethora of victims the possibilities are there.
Even if your proposition were true...Just because it has not yet happened does not mean that it is not possible...or...probable.
The conditions have changed from isolated villages where it burns out rapidly to a diverse and large population....as Lagos is.
From ChartreuseDog's link ..
"Fruit bats are a known 'reservoir' for the Ebola virus, and people have also contracted the disease after handling infected chimps,gorillas, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines. But this research suggests that wild or domestic pigs could also be a natural host."
Imagine having this get loose in the pork industry, or in the feral hog populations. I wouldn't be suprised if racoons turn out to be another host species that would spread it around as they forage through neighborhood garbage cans. Wouldn't that be another wonderful ongoing headache for this country.
Unpossible I say!
Imagine this getting loose in our cattle feed lots.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy
Unless...it has and we don't test for it because just thinking about it being loose in our BigMacs makes us a little loose in the bowel area.
Dormant 10 years or so. Just a little infected nerve tissue can go a long way in pink slime.
Prions make viruses look like complete pussies, btw.
I haven't thought about prions in a while, but they are the baddest of bad-ass killers.
Prion diseases, like Mad Cow a/k/a Bovine Spongiform Encephalothopaty, Creutzfeld-Jakob Disease, Chronic Wasting Disease, Scrapie, etc. are scary shit.
If Ebola was like the CIA, prion diseases would be the fucking Mossad. If the CIA is after you, they get you >80% of the time. Once the Mossad has you in its sights, you are 100% fucking dead.
I'm thinking prions will be the one that eventually take down the human population by 90+%.
The sick part is that millions of us could have a prion disease and it could be dormant up to a decade.
Twisted!
They could not shoot Reagan but got him with a prion.
Didn't Dan Brown talk about the Prion of Zion in his book the Da Vinci Code?
Good one Kirk!
The sickest prion disease was one I read about a decade ago or so.
It runs in one (Italian - I think) family for generations. Nobody in the family knows they have it, until they can't fall asleep. Then, they never fall asleep again until they die. Literally - they cannot sleep for even 10 seconds - then they die a week or so later.
Here is is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia
OK, I over-stated it. You live 18 months from onset, but your insomnia gets worse and worse.
From Wikipedia: The mutated protein, called PrPSc, has been found in just 40 families worldwide, affecting about 100 people; if only one parent has the gene, the offspring have a 50% risk of inheriting it and developing the disease. With onset landing around middle age it is essential that any potential patient be tested. Otherwise one would realize they had FFI only after potentially passing it on to their children. The first recorded victim was an Italian man, who died in Venice in the year 1765.
The other things to be aware of Prions, is that they can't be easily killed with mere "cooking". These fuckers (mishaped proteins) need to be fried with heat >100C (212F), to be killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion
Here is the relative ranking of various acquired diseases:
STD ~ Police
Aids ~ CIA
Ebola ~ Mossad
Prions ~ ISIS (in super slow-mo)
Prions=Khan (at full speed)
Ask Bones, he'll tell it.
If black people could learn simple hygeine this wouldn't be a problem. Even in America this is a problem. No, this isn't racism, this is simple truth that anyone who has ever been in a Walmart or any predominately black community can verify.
If you'd a said Jewish, you'd have all up votes.
...cognitive dissonance abounds... or the perceptions management team is alive and well.... pro muzzie and black... voting with the prez....
It's behavioral sister, i know some bitches who bath everyday, yet inside are the dirtest people on the planet.
Asshole.
It actually is racism. And I hate even evoking that word at this point in time.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You can dog out the poor skinnys over there all you want and sit back and feel superior in your perfect hygiene if you want.
Or, you can observe the hygiene of your neighbors in your own office, suburban white mall or anywhere!
Next gun show, go take a piss.
Note how many people that wash up...like your mom told you to....after they take a ride on the thunder bucket express. Note how many that don't.
Now, for everyone that doesn't, please...tell them they are dirty niggers.
Look up Hep-C and ponder the two for a moment.
Do the same thing for the receptionist that comes to work with flu. She's covered because she has a bottle of hand sanitizer on her desk, right?
Nope.
You don't know a thing about what the average Liberian has to deal with.
You knew nothing of Liberia before this shit started.
You are the fucking nigger...you are the one doing what you are told down on the plantation.
+1,000,000
It gets old.
"wife & children of a Texas doc working in Liberia w/ Ebola patients, returned to America last week, days b4 Brantly -came down w/ Ebola WTF?"
Good chance the wife probably has it.
There must be a lot of gold, oil, diamonds and other minerals in the area that the elites, NWO, Soros and Bill Gates want.
what part of multiple protective gear layers do you not understand?
how do multiple doctors at various locations, knowing all they know about the deadly consequences of any misstep in treating this disease, develop it? no one has explained that yet and until it is explained sufficiently Murphy's law should be presumed to be in effect.
Do you know how small the Ebola virus is? When you're treating thousands of people (who have family members violently removing patients from quarantine) it's impossible to maintain 100% protection.
All it takes is 1 little Ebola virus to land on your skin and you're done. It's a brutal virus.
The official numbers are 1,100 who have contracted it though I guarantee the real number is far higher. It was only a matter of time before doctors started getting it.
did you learn the answer a question with a question at Wharton? Ha, ha.
Of course I know how small any virus is and the conditions they're working under. There isn't any answer to the question and Murphy's law prevails.
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There is a simple answer of course: Ebola has become aerosolized.
Are you waiting for the MSM to reveal that, or is the process of elimination not something you are familiar with?
Occam's razor.
I don't trust the MSM... but not yet ready to accept it has evolved to that point yet. Something is missing.
The truth is missing for starters.
Does Occam's Razor cut both ways?
We had a post the other day where one set of animals caught it from the test set with NO physical contact at all.
So, figure a 50-50 chance this starin is airborne, but I suspect for only a short time. Of course, who knows???
"respiratory exposure to infectious aerosols and droplets, and/or direct contact with broken skin or mucous membranes (35)"
"INFECTIOUS DOSE: 1 – 10 aerosolized organisms are sufficient to cause infection in human"
http://www.msdsonline.com/resources/msds-resources/free-safety-data-sheet-index/ebola-virus.aspx
Occam's razor, indeed.
What part of practicing medicine in a tropical, 3rd world war zone do you not understand?
Ain't like Cleveland Clinic or Cedars is going to be building a multi million dollar treatment and research facility there anytime soon.
Tylers: " last week's Ebola stunner came when not did an Ebola patient die
what's up, please proofread!
Must create fear to contain the sheep, must create fear!
Ebola won't be a problem in the US - it is prohibited under Obamacare.
Well that depends if it's considered a pre existing condition.
Circa 1976...so, I'm thinking it's a pre-existing condition and not covered.
The bullet and cremation are gratis, though.
Wait, I heard Obama was golfing with the head of the CDC today and that they'd be discussing using Ebola in their ObamaCare Death Panels to keep costs down, and maximize economies of scale.
Didn't Obama's new genius spokesperson recently say, "Obama was born and raised in Kenya, and they were all taught from a young age not to eat monkey brains, batshit or other humans. That's why you don't see any cases in Kenya, dumbass!"
Am I misquoting here?
It's the Fight Club - just try to prove me wrong.
I did my research, bitchez! Who here was at the last White House Press Conference? Anyone? No, well. Hmm.
Press conference.
You made a funny.
Everyone knows that show was replaced by Captain Kangaroo re-runs.
The Fed has studies that show that people who watch their loved ones bleed out of their orifices are more likely to go out and spend.
Don't be lulled into a false sense of security-recent stories of cdc gross mishandling of vials of dangerous viruses doesn't instill a lot of confidence.
PLUS-with all the people from who-knows-where flooding over the border it's just a matter of time imho.
The fact the border is wide open means anything they say at all is bullshit.
"Eight days later, she developed chills, then diarrhea, an all-body rash, temporary memory loss and was flown to Switzerland by air ambulance for treatment, accompanied by health workers wearing masks, gloves and gowns. She recovered without infecting anyone else."
What was the nature of her recovery? How was her illness treated? Is she still alive? Is there anything indigenous to her genetics or recovery that could be replicated as the means to a remedy?
You skeptics are not too bright...
That means she did not die from the disease. That is what ''recovered'' means, genius...
Well, come on.... she might have recovered kinda like the economy has....
Or she could be just "mostly dead"
That means she did not die from the disease. That is what ''recovered'' means, genius..."
***Clarification, not a retraction of my comment above:
The Swiss incident happened in 1994. 20 years later, is she still alive NOW?
Weary of Switzerland's cold weather and social intolerance, she retired to a small Christian hamlet in Iran and hasn't been heard from since.
Now that I believe!
And btw,
how "bright" does one have to be to know what the definition and the context of the word "still" means when used in a sentence?
What do you call a deer with no eyes?
No eye deer.
What do you call a deer with no eyes and no prick?
No fucking eye deer.
What do you call a dead deer with no eyes and no prick?
STILL no fucking eye deer!
I believe so, she changed her name and went underground.
A simple "yes she is alive" is far more effective rather than inviting further speculation by using mba/governmentspeak
WTF? Can I put on black face, go to Africa, get the chills and get an air ambulence to Switzerland?
Can I claim political asylum from Obama Amerika shithole? Just askin...
Even if Ebola spread in the US Obama, Wall Street and the liberal media would keep it quiet.
Much opportunity for those infected to walk right through the open US Mexican border.
Take 2 aspirins and for god's sake, BTFD....All will be well....
A posy in every pocket .
Keynesian growth .
There is a red line for this.
Of Course it poses little threat....until it gets here Duh...All of theses statements stem from lawyer speak. Say whatever you want, as long as it can have multiple meanings.
The economy is different this time. Maybe the Ebola went mutant and this time its different.
In either case or not we are all doomed.
We're all in good hands. Don't worry. Remain calm. When it gets real, there will be an emergency broadcast. Here's a case on point:
"Are you very surprised? I’ve been surprised it’s taken this long to have news and analysis of a utility being hacked. Actually, it’s rare for such breaches to be identified by utilities and even rarer for the government to publicly disclose them."
http://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/incident-detection/dhs-confirm...
"Ebola is alarmingly contagious; there have been incidents in which the disease has spread at funerals for victims. ....
What's particularly scary, though, was the recent death of a Liberian man in Lagos, the bustling coastal mega-city in Nigeria, Africa's most populous country. The man, a consultant for the Liberian government, had traveled from Liberia through an airport in Lome, the capital of Togo, before arriving in Nigeria."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/07/28/this-is-the...
"Confined by geography, the built-up areas of metropolitan Lagos now have more than 20,000 people per square kilometer (53,000 per square mile)—about the same urban density as Dhaka or Mumbai. It has among the highest prevalence rates of open defecation of all major African cities, as well as some of Africa’s lousiest healthcare infrastructure."
http://qz.com/241241/why-ebola-reaching-the-nigerian-capital-is-a-whole-...
It's the end of days. The only explanation of why all these events have occurred (and nearly always belie reason or understanding) is because they're intended to destroy. There's great evil on the earth. Time to start worrying about your most important asset...your soul.
Anytime someone tells you "not to worry" about something you were not worrying about.........then it's time to start worring.
"When it becomes serious, you have to lie,"
Jean-Claude Juncker, President-elect of the European Commission, previously the Prime Minister of Luxembourg
This guy who died from it was going to Minnesota!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2709180/Ebola-victim-sparked-fears-global-outbreak-American-Father-died-incurable-virus-Nigeria-taking-international-flight-going-visit-children-Minnesota.html
Hospitals in my province in Canada run at 105-108% overcapacity as it is. Couldn't fathom what a few cases would do to healthcare resource demand.
I just saw a tweet from Homeland Security asking people to report anyone with an illness.
Plenty of opportunity for terrorist to bring infected Ebola immigrants through the open Mexican border.
Hopefully they will go to Vegas to one of Hairy Reid's casino's to play a few hands of blackjack.
Zombies roaming Vegas and Hairy Reid and the Zio's city of gold in a pandemic would be pretty epic.
Yes, they are wrong.
"and don't mind us working with the stuff in space suits in Level 4 biocontainment."
Prolly best to avoid contact with sperm until this blows over.
Here's Dave Hodge's take on this.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/07/29/the-u-s-is-quietly-establishing-ebola-quarantine-centers/
Is that guy for reals?
I mean, there is a lot of facts behind him, but his claims are outrageous, like the one where the Navy has had a 5 year wargame ongoing. There is no money for an FTX that long. We never had drills anywhere near that long. Also, one where Russian troops and massive amounts of armor are in the Smokey Mountains. I have many friends there, they have seen nothing, and these are people who hunt, fish, and hike in very primitive areas.
So, who knows?
Go back and leave a comment, see how he responds.
If it ain't with pictures BMPs at a Shell Station or NC's finest rednecks holding up dead Russians at the game tag station, GTFO
"But federal health officials say it’s not a big worry for most Americans"
Until it is...
another bullshit statement from anther bullshit "leader"
The Centers for Disease Control is a respectable scientific
institution IMHO. All airports are monitored and the federal government has jurisdiction which means that there is a ton-O-money invested in detection and monitoring. A worldwide pandemic will manifest eventually but the USA has
the best researchers and scientists in the world. In terms of risk assessment the USA is a low risk country, bottom line. Moreover, the USA has the best labs and the most regulation of those labs. In point of fact, the USA is likely the best country in the world to ever get sick in.
Barf away, USA, fill your hats.
p.s. The CDC and the NSA can track any individual that goes through an airport with a mobile phone. This fact means that the NSA tracking capability can saves lives and is needed with respect to SUPERBUG tracking and Infectious Disease tracking. The NSA meta-data sweeps are necessary
in contemporary society given infectious disease outbreaks.
The NSA public relations should capitalize on this capability by aligning with CDC infectious disease researchers. The American public would probably appreciate the NSA tracking capability if it was used constructively
to track disease outbreaks.
I have a mobile phone, about ready for the Smithsonian, and almost never turn it on. I have no gps unit in my car. I'm old, and since I never grew up with mobile phones or gps units, I am not typical - except maybe for people in my age cohort.
This BS all falls apart when you have unregulated illegals flooding the boarders and going to major cities. Keep thinking this until Ebola or some other pandemic is knocking on your door.
The NSA and CDC knows jack when there are hoards of infected people in emergency rooms in all the major cities. These agencies will be like a deer standing in the middle of the highway just before an 18 wheeler hits it.
CDC? It is run like the Post Office.
No, more like Amtrack. It goes off the rails quite consistently.
You may already be a victim of Obamabola.
Susan Rice and Samantha Power are urging President Obama to bomb the fuck out of the Ebola rebel separatists.
my advice, don't get this virus..but when I do drink beer I drink dos equis.the truth is when dealing with virus the word "surprised" should be avoided.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, please! Get a hold of yourselves! As this mighty vessel's architect, I assure you, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. She is unsinkable."
-Thomas Andrews
15 April 1912
At least he had the stones to go down with her, so there's one redeeming quality. Wonder if he mumbled "unsinkable" all the way down?
Something will get us. God always has construction going on, just like a highway. Book of Job.
Anyone watching The Last Ship? I saw the first episode last night.
Yup.
The priming and programming never ends.
The CDC is jawboning just like the Federal Reserve.
The CDC will be helpless as hoards of uncontrolled planted illegals cross the US-Mexican boarders. Those infected with the Ebola virus would be the perfect terrorist plot.
It's what happens when the media libtards and Obama want chaos. They get more than they bargin for.
Wait until they admit this particular strain has airborne transmission abilities....
UH OH.......
JUST HIT THE WIRES
Canadian doctor working with the two that are infected has just put himself in a self imposed quarantine
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ebola-outbreak-canadian-md-in-quarantine-after-work-in-liberia-1.1936922
send obumbler, the clintoons, biden, michelle, kery. valerie jarrett, brennan, hagel, dempsey, reid, pelosi, the black congressional caucus, jessie, al and eric holder.... RIGHT AWAY... .... first class of course.....
You guys are all losing it. Buying into the panic-du-jour. Grow a fucking brain, and fer crissakes, TURN OFF YOUR FUCKING TELEVISION!
Being susceptible to government and media propaganda is not the mark of a independent thinker. Or a rational one. I expect more on fight club.
Yeah Dog, I get ya.
But, shouldn't I TURN ON the telescreen if I want to tune into the same soma sense of security that you are currently tripping balls on?
The TeeVee says all is good. We have this. Buy Stawks.
It is difficult to turn off the TeeVee when I do not have one that turns on in the first place.
I hate TeeVee with a passion. I have not watched TeeVee in over a decade.
I get my information from READING. I know...I know...That is a little bit OLD FASHIONED and all of that.
But since he believes that we get our information from TeeVee you can damned well be assured that is where he gets his information from.
He transfers his own behavior upon others. He is that fucking weak in his principles.
What a fucking weakling!!! He needs to leave the porch now.
He can come hunting with me anytime. He is invited.
My address is:
12223B Woodside Ave.
Lakeside, CA USA
I may introduce him to God, personally.
He is trolling
Christ. 3 years in fight club, and I 'm a troll.
Fuck off tom tall. I have NEVER owned a television. Nor did my parents. Like you, I get my knowledge from reading. A decent part of it on these boards.
And no empty threats please. They're just....empty. Internet tough guy.
BTW, that address seems to be that of a Mexican restaurant. Is that where you live? Or not as tough as you like to think you are? Or is it your work address? Washing dishes with the other illegals.
If you like your Ebola, you can keep your Ebola.
The same CDC that called GUNS A DISEASE under Bill Clinton and are once again doing their mischief regarding our 2nd Amendment rights IN DIRECT VIOLATION of federal law thanks to the EXECUTIVE ORDER signed by Obongo.
The CDC says NOTHING about the diseases immigrants bring into the US, and that includes LEGAL immigrants, recall Clinton permitting HIV infected Africans to immigrate to US as REFUGEES!!!
Border Patrol Agent Contracts Bacterial Pneumonia from Illegal Alien Processing
By Brenda Walker on July 12, 2014
https://www.vdare.com/posts/border-patrol-agent-contracts-bacterial-pneu...
There was a time that Northern Virginia was lovely.
Northern Virginia: 'Ground Zero' for Kissing Bug Disease
Chagas, a disease common in Latin America, is gaining traction among immigrants in the U.S.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/07/northern-virginia-grou...
Just one of hundreds of new and VIBRANT diseases coming from Third World immigrants!!!
It appears, sadly, that it is just a matter of time until first Europe, then the US and other White nations, get the GIFT of ebola.
Or YOU CAN STAND UP AND FIGHT THE OLIGARCHS!
Richard Cotten, June 1966, Conservative Viewpoint
Close the borders, right now!
Signed: an American.
Close off and contain this plague ridden city!
Signed:
General Ho Li Zhit - Red Army
How now brown baby Mao?
You really want containment? This is cold and cruel...
Nuke Lagos. They are all dead anyway.
Personally I do not want that. I will take the fucking long shot bet like a stupid fuck. (And i know better...)
But you can bet that it is being considered as I write this.
CDC obviously has some sort of political agenda here. They are worthless and should be defunded and replaced. These morons are endangering us all. If this disease shows it's face in the US, it's on the CDC leadership's hands.
Defunded, yeah. Along with 90% of the government. But "replaced"? What the fuck for?
Libertarians! What would be the ideal free-market solution to the Ebola outbreak for the USA? That would be interesting to explore.
In your solution, please assume that we are dealing with today's situation/reality of tremendous wealth inequality with, apparently, debt collectors hunting down some quarter of the US population for unpaid purchases.
Also keep in mind that we are currently a system based on a consumer economy and we currently use fiat currency. If you think Ebola would better be solved by the Gold Standard, let us hear the reasoning.
Have at it!
...we are currently a system based on a consumer economy....
Don't forget our awesome market and trading system. Completely automated.
.. Deep in the heart of Texas...
I'm sponsoring Paki and Afghan suicide bombers to go to Liberia and lick ebola victims then ship them to and fly them from Sudan direct to democrat conventions.
With a bit of luck bathhouse will spot a cute boy and blow him.
The first stages of a plan like that is probably already being carried out (the seeking to acquire Ebola to use as WMD part of the plan).
When it hits the US first they deny,then they'll panic.
Airlines, Bars and restaurants will be hit big as people stay away from other people. The perfect modern day plague.
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Avoid blood and secretions of infected persons. Direct from the CDC.
What's a vector where blood and secretions are often passed?
The happy folks?