"Shocked" White House Slams "Fabrication" After Israel TV Leaks Damning Transcript Of Obama-Netanyahu Phone Call

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While everyone's attention is glued on Russia and whether Obama can successfully launch World War III, things are going from bad to worse when it also comes to US relations with Israel. Recall that here things were already on the verge of disaster after for some reason, Kerry was unleashed to "arrange" a ceasefire with Israel, when in reality the SecState somehow managed to infuriate every single feuding faction (there are lot of them), Israel included, after Haaretz wrote that "Kerry ruined everything."

So what happened next? Something rather stunning according to the US State Department, and which according to BBC reporter Paul Danahar, constitutes "a severe violation of a private discussions" - Israel’s Channel 1 decided to publish a Hebrew transcript of a portion of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama’s telephone conversation which took place on Sunday, in which Obama was insistent that Israel unilaterally halt all military activities in the Gaza Strip. As is quite clear by now, Israel rejected, and the bloodshed continued.

The transcript, as shown by the Times of Israel was as follows:

The following is an English translation of the Hebrew account of the talk given in the report:

Barack Obama: I demand that Israel agrees to an immediate, unilateral ceasefire and halt all offensive activities, in particular airstrikes.

Benjamin Netanyahu: And what will Israel receive in exchange for a ceasefire?

BO: I believe that Hamas will cease its rocket fire — silence will be met with silence.

BN: Hamas broke all five previous ceasefires. It’s a terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel.

BO: I repeat and expect Israel to stop all its military activities unilaterally. The pictures of destruction in Gaza distance the world from Israel’s position.

BN: Kerry’s proposal was completely unrealistic and gives Hamas military and diplomatic advantages.

BO: Within a week of the end of Israel’s military activities, Qatar and Turkey will begin negotiations with Hamas based on the 2012 understandings, including Israel’s commitment to removing the siege and restrictions on Gaza.

BN: Qatar and Turkey are the biggest supporters of Hamas. It’s impossible to rely on them to be fair mediators.

BO: I trust Qatar and Turkey. Israel is not in the position that it can choose its mediators.

BN: I protest because Hamas can continue to launch rockets and use tunnels for terror attacks –

BO: (interrupting Netanyahu) The ball’s in Israel’s court, and it must end all its military activities.

One can quickly see why the US would quickly disavow any credibility of this report: after all it wouldn't look very good for the leader of the free world if the leader of another state, one which on top of it all is reliant on the former for continued military and economic support, flat out rejected what amounted to a demand from the US. As expected the denial was prompt with the US administration calling the quotations "fabrications", "shocking", and "disappointing"

It took mere minutes for the National Security Council to deny the transcript was even remotely accurate:

Sure enough, it wouldn't look good if only the US denied so Netanyahu had to step in, which he did:

The Prime Minister’s Office says in a statement that the Channel 1 report is false, using precisely the same words as the White House.

 

“We have seen these reports, and neither the reports nor the alleged transcript bear any resemblance to reality. It’s shocking and disappointing that someone would sink to misrepresenting a private conversation between the President and the Prime Minister in fabrications to the Israeli press,” the PMO says.

Despite the denials, Israel's Channel 1 refused to retract the leaked statement. Worse, it revealed the source of the leak as a "senior American official."

Despite rejections by American and Israeli officials, Channel 1?s Or Nahari insists that the transcript leaked to him by a “senior American official” is authentic, but acknowledges that the quotes he published were merely an excerpt from a long conversation.

All of which leads to three quite disturbing, for Obama, possibilities:

  1. With Russia clearly ignoring US "superpower" status and openly defying not only the US, but Europe, and hence NATO, Obama now has another foreign relations disaster on his hands, where a former close ally of the US is now openly refusing to bow down to US demands.
  2. There is a leak in the highest echelons of US power, one which appears focused on exposing the administration in a position of weakness
  3. The media tactics of fabrication and lies, so prevalent in the US vs Russia proxy war through the Ukraine, have now seeped over into US-Israel relations.

Whichever one of these is the truth, it simply means that the old Pax Americana world, in which the word of the US president was final, is no more, and first Russia (and thus the BRICs), and now such staunch allies as Israel, are clearly defying the former.  Or perhaps one should add former superpower?

As for John Kerry, just stick a fork in him already as per the following clip.

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Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:56 | 5019947 zorba THE GREEK
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Obama just keeps making friends.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:57 | 5019949 zorba THE GREEK
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Of course, with friends like Israel, you don't need enemies.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:00 | 5019957 J S Bach
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Hark!  The Herald Devils Sing!

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:02 | 5019972 Skateboarder
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Guys, it's all scripted. Pick no side.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:08 | 5020001 quintago
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If it was complete and utter bullshit, why is there a need to respond in the exact same words, or even at all?

 

https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/494204571166973954

https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/494204683192639488

 

 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:12 | 5020020 DoChenRollingBearing
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Wow!  What a choice!  Who do we believe, Israel or Obama?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:25 | 5020036 Escrava Isaura
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DoChen,

Obama will be the winner here!

Watch.

It's a brilliant move by Obama.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:25 | 5020084 zaphod
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Am I the only one who wants to see a transcript of Obama's last call with Putin?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:26 | 5020094 dogfish
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They may have talked about this http://rt.com/news/176280-un-isis-oil-trade/

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:30 | 5020105 espirit
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"I demand."

Whoa, wha? TeeHee, HaHa.

Buhuahahahahha! Bitch, Bitchez.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:39 | 5020148 Comte de Saint ...
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Time is running out for Iran to launch a massive and devastating preemptive strike against Israel, because as soon as Hamas gets completely annihilated, the Zion-Arab coalition will bring back the Islamic Republic to the Stone Age.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:51 | 5020187 LasVegasDave
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You say that like its a bad thing.

Civilization will buy itself another 100 years if the Shiite entity is turned into a glass parking lot in the desert.

I havent forgotten 1979.  Death to Iran.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:55 | 5020203 The Blank Stare
Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:05 | 5020253 NoDebt
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The disinformation and counter-disinformation is too thick to wade through any more.  I trust neither side, nor our president.

I think I'm with Ron Paul- this would be another fantastic opportunity for us to butt the hell out.  Wanna go to war?  Fine.  But we're not doing it for you, we're not helping you do it and we're not supplying you the weapons to do it with.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:10 | 5020263 COSMOS
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No surprise here Lou Costello was a proud dual citizen with his second passport.  Why death to Iran, they are not the ones stealing land and bulldozing homes and olive groves day in and day out.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:08 | 5020311 One World Mafia
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"Stop it right now!" exclaimed Obama before adding, "Check for $3 Billion on its way.  Enjoy."

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:22 | 5020318 knukles
Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:30 | 5020361 nmewn
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What could possibly go wrong? ;-)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:32 | 5020658 BigJim
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If you're a fan of Oded Yinon... nothing has, so far.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:13 | 5020840 nmewn
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Never heard of him before now, he's a journalist as far as I can tell.

Whats your point?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 23:10 | 5021040 New_Meat
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so-called "journalists" work for the NYT

have you seen their chart of their "B" shares?

- Ned

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 23:15 | 5021055 Drunk In Church
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Israel has the right to exist.  This site is filled with Jew-haters and atheists.  Repent, bitchez.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 23:47 | 5021173 gallistic
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You really can't help yourself can you?

Screw your stupid blog; go advertise somewhere else.

Oh yeah...and stop creating new fake identities.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 23:53 | 5021191 NidStyles
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The only thing holy about Israel is the trail of bodies they leave behind riddled with holes.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 01:22 | 5021319 Confused
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This is fake. The transcript uses too many buzzwords. Besides, thats a short convo. ;-P 

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 01:41 | 5021354 TahoeBilly2012
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"fuck Jew!" "No FUCK JEW!" "you talking to me?" 

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 03:10 | 5021459 Duffy Duck
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Ben Stein actually has an article out claiming/whining that the corporate MSM is "anti-Semitic".

The level of dishonesty and delusion amongst the Israel Firsters is breath-taking.

 

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 05:58 | 5021611 BigJim
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Well, how often does the MSM not say that Israel has the right to slaughter anyone, man, woman, and child, regardless whether it's 'collateral' damage or not? The MSM keep insisting that Israel try to keep civilian casualties down... or... at the very least, give them some soothing platitudes that they can uncritically repeat.

That takes work on the part on guys like Regev. Regev has to be paid by Israeli* taxpayers, so that's some bad anti-Semitism, right there.

*US

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 06:57 | 5021676 hot sauce technician
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Calm down. You speak as if Jews in America are clandestinely working in cohesion to dismantle the very fabric of society. In fact your very accusation of delusion and dishonesty is in itself deluded and dishonest. Is the MSM's agenda not to promote mass abandonment of traditional values and moral codes associated with unique religious, ethnic, cultural and national affiliations? To promote a "brave new world"? Now, tell me, how does Israel fit into this agenda? After some examination, you'll realize that it's almost diametrically opposed to it! Israel is all about restoring a Commonwealth destroyed by pax romana 1800 years ago  based on practically biological criterion (matrilenial lineage). Yes, a fundamental precept of the old testament/rabbinical code is to uproot and demolish false gods, whether they be socialism, nationalism, capitalism, Jesus or Kim kardashian's ass. And that's the root cause of people's fatal mistake of attributing all seemingly man-made chaos to them. But to attribute to Zion manipulation of MSM is laughable, especially after you realize how incompetent its so-called leaders are.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 07:01 | 5021684 BigJim
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Wow. That's quite a logic salad you've prepared for us.

But maybe you should have stopped tossing all the leaves around a little sooner.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 10:27 | 5022447 my_nym
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Wrong.  Their historic and cultural attitude has often been one of dissolution and open borders for the goyim/tribes by whatever means available (capitalism/banking or communism...  financed by Jewish bankers) while maintaining themselves. 

 

For example, Marx's "Communist" or "liberal" rabbi was simultaneously a Zionist and Jewish nationalist:

  Hess’s task was to see that Judaics did not succumb to the new winds of reform and religious indifferentism with which Catholics and Protestants under the spell of Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité, had fallen. This has been a perennial problem for Judaism: how to insulate their own nation from the liberal toxins which they themselves sow among the gentile nations. For Hess, the cardinal sin of the Judaic people was to abandon their heritage, while the cardinal objective of his Communism was to persuade all other people to abandon theirs. Forged in the crucible of the German Rhineland, where he was born into an Orthodox Judaic family, and at a period of time that marked the beginning of the Prussian reaction against the legacy of Napoleon, Hess approached this dilemma through the vehicle of his Zionism, the religious nationalism which embraces the Talmud not necessarily as a code for daily living, but as a totem of racial cohesion and a prophylactic against liberalism. Hess wrote: “Many who have emancipated themselves from dry orthodoxy have recently manifested in their studies a deepening conception of Judaism; and have thus brought about the banishment of that superficial rationalism which was the cause of a growing indifference to things Jewish and which finally led to a total severance from Judaism.” 1038 Hess termed as “nihilists” all liberal Judaics who sought to abolish the influence of the Talmud, which he regarded as the “fountain of life.” 1039 Hess endeavored to build a Hegelian-Kabbalistic bridge between the Judaic liberals and the rabbinic traditionalists: “The new seminaries, modeled after the Breslau school...ought to make it their aim to bridge the gap between the nihilism of the Reformers, who never learn anything, and the staunch conservatism of the Orthodox, who never forget anything.” The bridge consisted of Communist leadership for the reform-minded, and what came to be called modern Orthodoxy for the conservatives, with these two, seeming opposite tendencies, eventually reconciled, far in the future, in the racial patriotism that is Israeli Zionism. As Hess stated, “The pious Jew is above all a Jewish patriot. The ‘new’ Jew, who denies the existence of the Jewish nationality, is not only a deserter in the religious sense, but is also a traitor to his people, his race and even to his family.” 1040 In his early 1837 work, The Holy History of Mankind, Hess advocated an occult, Talmudic two-tier hierarchy of Adamic man (humans, i.e. “Jews”), contrasted with subhuman creatures, the Nephilim. “This tradition,” observes Hess, “leads toward a higher and clearer consciousness.” 1041 In 1841 Hess began to gain support from a wealthy clique of Rhineland capitalists. They appointed him the head of a leading masonic newspaper which they funded, the Rheinische Zeitung, in whose offices Hess made the acquaintance of Karl Marx, whose mentor he became and in whom he discerned messianic qualities. In a letter written before Marx had published anything, Hess predicted of him, “...he will give the final blow to all medieval religion and politics...Can you imagine Rousseau, Voltaire, Holbach, Lessing, Heine and Hegel combined..in one person? If you can — you have Dr. Marx.” ....

Though attributed to Marx and Friedrich Engels, Moses Hess himself wrote the first draft of The Communist Manifesto and sections of The German Ideology, which is officially said to have been written by Marx and Engels. Hess the Communist sought to extirpate the gentile’s connection to the land by weakening private property rights and in particular, the right to inherit land. In keeping with the conjunction of seeming opposites, in which Communism sometimes is bankrolled by predatory capitalists, Hess believed that the modernizing trends of “free trade” and commerce would contribute to Communism through the demise of property rights.
(Hoffman, Michael (2008-08-10). Judaism Discovered)

Understand Judaism and its role in the creation of secret societies for the dumb goy or you'll understand almost nothing these days.  Or most other days either.

 

America ought not to be makin’ war on Europe, and America knows it. I think it is time the American U.S. citizen studied Mr. Morgenthau’s treasury reports, whether or not he is out in front proclaiming the coming of Zion or not. I think it is time you opened Kipling’s memoirs “Something about myself.” I think it is time more American Masons developed a curiosity about the possible relations of their order to Jewry as such, and to at least a sect or portion or selection of ORGANIZED Jews as a possible enemy of mankind, and of the American people, the British people in particular.  .....

AGAIN, whatever your own press has been able to tell you, it is, or ought to be news, that Europe is interested in the question of Masonry. Nothin’ will come as a greater shock to America in general, but in particular to honest men who compose the greater part, numerically, of American Masonry, than the view held concernin’ that order in Europe.

An American said to me a short while back, “I’m a Mason, my wife is a Catholic, the kids goin’ to Catholic school, and a man would have to be pretty SMALL to let it (meaning his Masonry) interfere with his politics.” That, I believe, to be the attitude of 95% of American Masons.

No one in the United States will be more surprised at the talk of hook up between Masonry, its central control, Jewry, Anglo-Israel, and the British Intelligence Service [than will the rank and file of American Masons.] This is all NEW[S] to the rural American. Giraffe!! There ain’t no such animal.  ....

You’ll find out, brother. Interference with communications’ service. Rothschild, the stink of hell gittin’ hold of Austrian postal service and censorship in time of Napoleon. Hundred years after Austria is the dumbest, and LEAST mentally awake country in Europe, and FLOPS. France was awake, Rothschilds git into bank or stank of France in, I think, 1843. Inside a hundred years, France walks down her pirate Reynaud, and flops into the discard.

You’ll find out, brother, before or after the belly-flop. England is on the teeter. The central stink betrayed the United States in 1863. Keeping up the hostilities, keepin’ the rebels at it, divide et impera. Now the same bunch.... is doing [it] in England. NOT for the benefit of the American people.

Sassoons baboons, Rothschilds, etc. migrating to the United States and stinking up the whole country, in the wake of Zukor and the other fine flowers of Semite culture.  Ezra Pound

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 06:01 | 5021614 BigJim
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Oded Yinon? Probably the most influential geogtrategist - certainly for MENA - since the 1970's?

You surprise me, nmewn. Though if you had admitted to knowing about him and his recommendations, it would have made it harder for you to get away (unchallenged) with your pro-Israeli bias here.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 07:01 | 5021683 nmewn
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So influential in the 70's-80's that I had no idea who he was, ok, sure.

I'm left with the impression you want me to step off a cliff that has fog one foot below its lip and you are promising me the fog is covering a stable foot bridge...just one and a half feet down, that I can't see.

Be that as it may, its not hard to believe someone would be recommending sewing seeds of discontent within nations that had just attacked (and had been defeated by) Israel to keep them pre-occupied but of course, I haven't been given any proof of that or that the foot bridge you're telling me is there.

Are you asking me to have "faith" that your obvious anti-Israel bias is completely trustworthy and that is exactly whats happening and that the foot bridge really there?

It works both ways.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 08:39 | 5021701 BigJim
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The difference, nmewn, is that my anti-zionist 'bias' is explicit; your pro-Israeli bias is routinely denied, and hidden behind your attempts to divert attention away from Zionism's atrocities and onto how dreadful Islam is, and Muslims are... as if that's some kind of excuse for the atrocities Zionists have been committing since the mid 1940's... and, by some reckonings, long before. Or their incessant meddling in Western polities and hijacking our foreign policy, as well as stealing our hard earned wealth via grants given to them courtesy of compulsory taxation in OUR countries..

As for your bizarre analogy; stepping off a cliff onto a hidden bridge has possibly life-threatening consequences; asking you to spend 15 minutes researching an Israeli geostrategist's recommendations - and the people in various US administrations he is known to have influenced - carries no such threat.

But perhaps your analogy has some Freudian overtones, in that you see the maintenance of your cover here as a life and death matter. Is that the case?

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 08:55 | 5021959 hot sauce technician
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Some anonymous geostrategist and groundless talk of "atrocities" won't change people's feelings about Israel. It has, and has always had, support from good people around the world exactly because it's creation and continued existence is justified under the highest standards of human morality. Interesting though that the Palestinian cause seems to have found its strongest supporters among Marxists, collectivist anarchists, jihadists and white supremacists. (Talk about bridging a human divide!)

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 09:55 | 5022234 BigJim
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 Some anonymous geostrategist and groundless talk of "atrocities" won't change people's feelings about Israel.

Look Hasbara, maybe in Hebrew someone can be called by his name 'Oded Yinon' and miraculously be 'anonymous' at the same time, but not in English. And Zionists' atrocities are well documented, from the birth of Israel (Deir Yassin & the King David Hotel bombing) to the present day; dropping white phosphorus on civilians, and using Palestinian children as human shields are just two examples of the vile behaviour Zionists think is fine to routinely visit upon the hapless native Goyim.

 Interesting though that the Palestinian cause seems to have found its strongest supporters among Marxists, collectivist anarchists...

You are a very confused man. Marxists? Collectivist anarchists? What do you think Kibbutz are an expression of?

... jihadists and white supremacists

Well, the jihadists are obvious... though, now that you mention it, Oded Yinon's apotheosis, ISIS, seem much more concerned with threatening and killing other Muslims, not helping them. As for white supremacists, they disdain all semites, from what I can tell. Oh? What's that? You didn't know Palestinians are semites too? In fact, they're usually more 'semitic' than most of the Zionists who reflexively bleat 'anti-semite, anti-semite' whenever they're criticised.

It has, and has always had, support from good people around the world exactly because it's creation and continued existence is justified under the highest standards of human morality.

Thanks, I've got coffee all over my keyboard now, as well as dribbling out of my nostrils.

Please, please elaborate how a racial supremacist ideology that gives a bunch of Europeans - who may (or may not) have had a few ancestors in a country 1400 years ago - leave to terrorise, kill and expropriate that land from the people who have been tending, occupying, and living on it for scores of generations.

Give it your best shot. I'll go brew myself another coffee; this should be good!

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 10:50 | 5022536 my_nym
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It has, and has always had, support from good people around the world exactly because it's creation and continued existence is justified under the highest standards of human morality.

 

The fuck??


Sephardi leader Yosef: Non-Jews exist to serve Jews

 

Ovadia Yosef and Benjamin Netanyahu

 

The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: 'Let us differentiate'. Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather, we have a case of 'let us differentiate' between totally different species.

This is what needs to be said about the body: The body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of [members] of all nations of the world... The difference of the inner quality [of the body] is so great that the bodies would be considered as completely different species. This is the reason why there is an halachic difference in attitude about the bodies of non-Jews [as opposed to the bodies of Jews] 'their bodies are in vain'. An even greater difference exists in regard to the soul. Two contrary types of soul exist, a non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness.

We therefore ask: Why should a non-Jew be punished if he kills even a non-Jewish embryo while a Jew should not be punished even if he kills a Jewish embryo? The answer can be understood by [considering] the general difference between Jews and non-Jews: A Jew was not created as a means for some [other] purpose; he himself is the purpose, since the substance of all [divine] emanations was created only to serve the Jews."
The Chabad-Lubavitcher Rebbe, Menachem Mendel Schneerson. (Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky. (1999). Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel. Pluto Press, p.58-62)

Chabad Mafia

Chabad and Netanyahu

Israeli PM praises Chabad

 

After Schneerson's ["the goyim are Satanic"] death, a bill was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives—sponsored by Congressman Charles Schumer and cosponsored by John Lewis, Newt Gingrich, and Jerry Lewis, as well as 220 other Congressmen—to posthumously bestow upon Schneerson the Congressional Gold Medal.

On November 2, 1994 the bill passed both Houses by unanimous consent, honoring Schneerson for his "outstanding and enduring contributions toward world education, morality, and acts of charity".[158

Interesting that no other tribal or supremacist groups have been awarded Congressional Gold Medals by Zionist scumbags like Charles "strangle the Palestinians" Chumer for their charitable work.

 

Apparenlty support for Jewish supremacy is the only thing that Congress can unanimously agree on these days.  They could give a medal to Donald "I'm not a racist, it's just my culture." Sterling if even the most dimwitted of the dumb goy wasn't catching on that even when Jews supposedly lead "civil rights" or Communist movments for equality among the goy, they might not actually be about to poop out rainbows on everyone from all the loooove and charity that they have in their good little (equal) hearts.

 


Wed, 07/30/2014 - 15:23 | 5023822 hot sauce technician
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You're clueless. The sum of your education on the region seems to have come off the internet. Won't waste my time engaging you in debate.

Just curious, are you also so knowledgeable about other regions of the world? What's your take on Kashmir? Rwanda? Darfur? Kurdistan? Falkland islands? Or just from some peculiar reason, is it Israel that's your "speciallty"? And by the way, kibbutzim comprise maybe 1 percent of the entire Israeli population. Plus for the past 20 years they're as capitalist as Adam Smith. A Troy ounce says that some consumer/capital good you've enjoyed, over the past year has either been developed or manufactured (in part ) in or by kibbutz or its members. And they aren't anarchists. They're middle of the road statists. (unfortunately)

Also, hasbara would imply that I'm under the employ of the government in Zion. That's quite amusing. I probably wouldn't even be able to get considered for an interview for entry level position as a clerk, but have it your way fool. 

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 16:30 | 5024176 BigJim
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Hey look, Hasbara evades answering the question arising from his previously unsupported assertion:

It has, and has always had, support from good people around the world exactly because it's creation and continued existence is justified under the highest standards of human morality.

here, let me repeat my request:

Please, please elaborate how a racial supremacist ideology that gives a bunch of Europeans - who may (or may not) have had a few ancestors in a country 1400 years ago - leave to terrorise, kill and expropriate that land from the people who have been tending, occupying, and living on it for scores of generations.

C'mon, this should be easy for you, seeing as you've implied YOUR knowledge comes from living in 'the region'.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 18:48 | 5024809 nmewn
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You know what I've come to learn about you anti-Israel types? You are all conspiratorial nutcases, seriously, you're apparently by-polar, you need help.

"But perhaps your analogy has some Freudian overtones, in that you see the maintenance of your cover here as a life and death matter?"

Maintenance of my cover? A guy who works all day (that would be me) vs people who comment all day on ZH and froth at the mouth at the mere mention of Israel?

Really?

Ok because you're obviously the self professed brightest bulb in the box (having blown my cover...lol) tell me what exactly or who I am. And be specific, am I CIA, NSA, Mossad, a "private contractor"...what?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 05:32 | 5026435 BigJim
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 You know what I've come to learn about you anti-Israel types? You are all conspiratorial nutcases, seriously, you're apparently by-polar, you need help.

Yup, all those 'representatives' standing up and swearing eternal fealty to Israel... while supposedly working for the Western taxpayer. All the MSM bending over backwards to repeat Israeli propaganda unchallenged. All the aid that goes to Israel. The attack on the USS Liberty. All the other documented Israeli false-flags. Zionism having backers with deep, deep pockets and political sway for more than a century before the founding of Israel, and these same backers being behind the creation of the Fed. Yup, we made all that up, us Israel haters. You know what? Maybe we wouldn't hate Israel if it so clearly didn't hate us.

As for my Freudian jibe, you're the one using life and death analogies to exuse your deliberate ignorance. Why?

And what are you? A Christian Zionist, is my guess.

Which would be fine, if you just came out and said it.

You've already told us all you're a Christian, you're overt about that (and why shouldn't you be?). So just take the next step and declare you think the (alleged) descendents of people who left an area 1400 years ago, have a better claim to it than the Muslims - whom you clearly have a deep dislike for - who have been tending the land for scores of generations. And why? Because the Bible tells you so.

If that's your position, at least have the balls to come out and say it, instead of weaseling around every time someone calls you on it.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 10:34 | 5022472 my_nym
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...its not hard to believe someone would be recommending sewing seeds of discontent within nations that had just attacked (and had been defeated by) Israel to keep them pre-occupied...

 

Define "just attacked"... 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:42 | 5020423 kaiserhoff
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firing air to ground missiles from a Cessna...

Could the world be any more ass backwards?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:06 | 5020528 BurningFuld
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ISIS: aren't those the guys that are supposed to keep the rest of the Muslim world in fear and relying on Mother USA?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:14 | 5020563 nmewn
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#TheISISisLoose

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:11 | 5020545 Lore
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Re: "Russia clearly...openly defying not only the US, but Europe, and hence NATO."

Huh?  What did Russia do?  Russia stays on its own side of the fence, and we're supposed to blame them for that?  Who does this writer think installed the Nazist junta in the first place?  NATO seems a cesspit, like the EU. No wonder big players contemplate dropping out. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:12 | 5020556 disabledvet
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As with everything else "disabled vet reported it first" albeit from the safety of "that dude's couch" namely and I quote ME "the Secretary of State must have instructions first" meaning "simply sending the dude over to demand peace will cause war." And of course this is (incompetently) exactly what happened.

"Drop dead Israel" is coming direct from the White House not the SOS.

I say "impeachment is only a matter of time now." Great SOS, bottom line "wrong guy, wrong place, wrong time."   Sec Def now free to do "whatever" as total chaos is the alternative.  Meaning "de facto" chaos.  In short...unless and until Congress and Harry Reid decide otherwise Chuck Bagel is for all intents and purposes now AND GOING FORWARD President of the United States.

 

PERIOD.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:13 | 5020564 disabledvet
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Sorry...Hagel not Bagel. Google is trying to run the world too.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:14 | 5020842 Psquared
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What's even harder to understand is that the Iraqis think they don't have to fight a ground war to beat ISIS. Right, 5,000 Hellfire missiles will do the the trick. How about if they hire some generals who understand combat strategy.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 12:08 | 5022902 r0mulus
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im wary of press tv since they keep letting gordon duff write stuff for them. he should not be allowed near any newsroom that aims to have a reputation worth upholding.

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