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"Shocked" White House Slams "Fabrication" After Israel TV Leaks Damning Transcript Of Obama-Netanyahu Phone Call
While everyone's attention is glued on Russia and whether Obama can successfully launch World War III, things are going from bad to worse when it also comes to US relations with Israel. Recall that here things were already on the verge of disaster after for some reason, Kerry was unleashed to "arrange" a ceasefire with Israel, when in reality the SecState somehow managed to infuriate every single feuding faction (there are a lot of them), Israel included, after Haaretz wrote that "Kerry ruined everything."
So what happened next? Something rather stunning according to the US State Department, and which according to BBC reporter Paul Danahar, constitutes "a severe violation of a private discussions" - Israel’s Channel 1 decided to publish a Hebrew transcript of a portion of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama’s telephone conversation which took place on Sunday, in which Obama was insistent that Israel unilaterally halt all military activities in the Gaza Strip. As is quite clear by now, Israel rejected, and the bloodshed continued.
The transcript, as shown by the Times of Israel was as follows:
The following is an English translation of the Hebrew account of the talk given in the report:
Barack Obama: I demand that Israel agrees to an immediate, unilateral ceasefire and halt all offensive activities, in particular airstrikes.
Benjamin Netanyahu: And what will Israel receive in exchange for a ceasefire?
BO: I believe that Hamas will cease its rocket fire — silence will be met with silence.
BN: Hamas broke all five previous ceasefires. It’s a terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel.
BO: I repeat and expect Israel to stop all its military activities unilaterally. The pictures of destruction in Gaza distance the world from Israel’s position.
BN: Kerry’s proposal was completely unrealistic and gives Hamas military and diplomatic advantages.
BO: Within a week of the end of Israel’s military activities, Qatar and Turkey will begin negotiations with Hamas based on the 2012 understandings, including Israel’s commitment to removing the siege and restrictions on Gaza.
BN: Qatar and Turkey are the biggest supporters of Hamas. It’s impossible to rely on them to be fair mediators.
BO: I trust Qatar and Turkey. Israel is not in the position that it can choose its mediators.
BN: I protest because Hamas can continue to launch rockets and use tunnels for terror attacks –
BO: (interrupting Netanyahu) The ball’s in Israel’s court, and it must end all its military activities.
One can quickly see why the US would quickly disavow any credibility of this report: after all it wouldn't look very good for the leader of the free world if the leader of another state, one which on top of it all is reliant on the former for continued military and economic support, flat out rejected what amounted to a demand from the US. As expected the denial was prompt with the US administration calling the quotations "fabrications", "shocking", and "disappointing"
It took mere minutes for the National Security Council to deny the transcript was even remotely accurate:
We have seen reports of an alleged POTUS-Netanyahu transcript; neither reports nor alleged transcript bear any resemblance to reality 1/2
— @NSCPress (@NSCPress) July 29, 2014
Shocking and disappointing someone would sink to misrepresenting a pvt convo between POTUS and PM in fabrications to Israeli press 2/2
— @NSCPress (@NSCPress) July 29, 2014
Sure enough, it wouldn't look good if only the US denied so Netanyahu had to step in, which he did:
The Prime Minister’s Office says in a statement that the Channel 1 report is false, using precisely the same words as the White House.
“We have seen these reports, and neither the reports nor the alleged transcript bear any resemblance to reality. It’s shocking and disappointing that someone would sink to misrepresenting a private conversation between the President and the Prime Minister in fabrications to the Israeli press,” the PMO says.
Despite the denials, Israel's Channel 1 refused to retract the leaked statement. Worse, it revealed the source of the leak as a "senior American official."
Despite rejections by American and Israeli officials, Channel 1?s Or Nahari insists that the transcript leaked to him by a “senior American official” is authentic, but acknowledges that the quotes he published were merely an excerpt from a long conversation.
All of which leads to three quite disturbing, for Obama, possibilities:
- With Russia clearly ignoring US "superpower" status and openly defying not only the US, but Europe, and hence NATO, Obama now has another foreign relations disaster on his hands, where a former close ally of the US is now openly refusing to bow down to US demands.
- There is a leak in the highest echelons of US power, one which appears focused on exposing the administration in a position of weakness
- The media tactics of fabrication and lies, so prevalent in the US vs Russia proxy war through the Ukraine, have now seeped over into US-Israel relations.
Whichever one of these is the truth, it simply means that the old Pax Americana world, in which the word of the US president was final, is no more, and first Russia (and thus the BRICs), and now such staunch allies as Israel, are clearly defying the former. Or perhaps one should add former superpower?
As for John Kerry, just stick a fork in him already as per the following clip.
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"The promised land, blah, blah, blah..."
Says the neophyte that doesn't understand what Israel is, and what modern day "israel" isn't.
Neophyte. Really.
Well enlighten us. Don't keep everyone in the dark now with your secret conspiracy theories.
My money is on Iran 'helping out' in Iraq versus Isis and inheriting a slice of the pie.
What you say? Islam never emerged from the first Stone Age. lmao
Civilizations that embrace higher technology seldom fall to those who spurn technology. But there is always the possibility that our "progress" may lead to our own demise, leaving only the cave dwellers to contemplate utopia.
"Time is running out, blah, blah, blah..."
You could not possibly be further from the truth.
Iran and their allies will crush their enemies.
Last war Iran won? Been slowly shrinking for over 1000 years.
as soon as Hamas gets completely annihilated, the Zion-Arab coalition will bring back the Islamic Republic to the Stone Age.
whether it is a coalition or not..... such objective sounds like a dream come true.... the sooner, the better off humanity will be; in fact... israel ought to remove itself from the ME, opening for the possibility of turning the entire ME (and surroundings) sand into glass.... humanity would then go up one more notch into betterment, eliminating a bunch of savage animals, who would be sent to their so desired 'virgin filled heaven'...
israhell will disappear when the "families" decide it's no longer usefull to them,
I thought he was backed by the Pritzkers and the Jewish Mafiosi ?
Israel is making sure to finish up Hammas before it can pivot to Iran.
Iran won't attack Israel... it will allow itself to be attacked to get UN and world opinion.
Giving Hammas rockets somewhat allows them to fight a proxy war with Israel in the mean time.... While it buys time with negotions with us, while at the same time, it buys time keeping Israel busy with Hammas.
Everything is working in Iran's favor at the moment.
After the show TPTB put on when they kicked off 9/11, imagine the show we'll get when they kick off WWIII... This is all just the preamble...
Oh, I think a little humor is called for here:
'Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Nuclear Weapons'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1ya-yF35g
Hard to put on a decent show when the actors are all so incompetent.
Dr. Garrow on the Commonsenseshow.com, which totally kicks ass, claims the next 9/11 will be a coordinated attack on shopping malls across the country. Bombs will go off at the same time at the most symbolic (to them anyway) location across the land. Muslims/ISIS will be blamed but of course they had a helping hand....
I don't think that's necessary. A few reports of US Ebola and they can shut the entire country down, or as well as they can with what they have.
Let the CDC take the fall for the end of the US. DHS is only doing the 'humane' thing.
if they are going to attack shopping malls they better hurry up and do it before they are all permanently closed.
Attacks on shopping malls? LOL! Who has money to shop and who still goes to malls?
It might take out some really fat people on their Little Rascals.
zaphod,
50 years waiting!
ZAPHOD: LAST CALL
Barry: I'm getting reports from NORAD that you're attacking the U.S. Are those ICBMs headed our way?
Putin: Well, why don't you just wait and see?
Barry: Geez, Vlad, I thought you and I were buds. You were supposed to give me a thirty minute warning so I could get to my bunker.
Putin: Bye Barry. Nice knowin' ya.
Barry: Well, if I survive this, it's gonna be still more sanctions! Just you wait.
This is actually really funny but, if you think Obama's unwillingness to punish Russia is the problem, I'm afraid you're playing for team stupid/evil.
no. what will REALLY be funny is the look on obama's face about 30 minutes after he orders a retaliatory nuclear strike and discovers that 1/2 to 2/3rds of the nukes we launched did not produce mushroom clouds.
the youngest of our warheads are almost 30 years old, those things dont keep forever. there is a reason Russia decided to modernize their nuclear arsenal and it wasnt to create temporary jobs that make voters happy.
You're obviously an expert on all this but for some reason you failed to mention the "Test Button" on the side of each warhead. A technician with a clipboard periodically pushes this button and records which LED lights up. A green LED is labeled "Kaboom" and a red LED is labeled "Pfffft". This was a glaring omission on your part I must say.
Barry isn't the guy who looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul was good. That was a similar clown, true, but not the same one.
I'd like to see the video from Putin's side. He was probably verbally stepping all over Obummer whilst simultaneously wrestling a polar bear. While shirtless, of course.
And the last call from Erdogan. Oh wait, Erdogan doesn't take BO's calls anymore.
I don't believe a word of this shit. Barry has been AIPACs bitch all along. Look at his damned appointments.
The question is why Israel is putting this crap out now. Methinks they have soured on the HNIC and are announcing that to the troops.
Listening in on private conversations ---How despicable;)
Obama is everyone's bitch. He is the typical scorned lover. When he doesn't get his way or he gets criticised he slaps like the bitch he is.
http://i60.tinypic.com/27wygep.jpg
Here is a great article btw http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39259.htm
Even with a 50% reduction in hyperbole, the article you linked to would still suck.
You really are a spoilsport!
(I thought it was dramatic but effective)
Of course it's not real. Obama doesn't speak Hebrew
The only brilliant move Obama ever made was being born into the CIA.
The only brilliant move Obama ever made involved his bowels after he accidentally ate a tube of sparkling glitter.
-Chumbz.
Ahem, that was damn funny.
Escrava Isaura
It looks we will all be watching! We'll see.
DoChen,
Benjamin Netanyahu days might be numbered.
Of course it's a fabrication. I have the REAL transcript here!
BN: Yo, bitch!
BO: M..m..m..m..m..Master! H-h-how can I serve you?
BN: Well, for, a start, we want more money, schmuck. This should be obvious by now.
BO: But, master, I-
BN: Listen, gelding; we both know you can divert more from the 'black budget' stuff that's supposed to be going to 'Top Secret' pentagon projects. Rummy got away with $2T, and that was in 2001 dollars, not the toilet paper our ChairSatans have been shitting out of their asses day and night for the past 6 years.
BO: Of course! I'll see to it personally!
BN: And the internets. Why are they still allowing anti-Semites to say Zionists are in charge of evrything? I told you to shut it down. All of it!
BO: That one's going to take time, master. The sheep-
BN: Fuck the sheep. And why is ZeroHedge still up and running?
BO: Ah, I have good news there. It's a honeypot - anyone posting anti-Zionist, anti-banking or satirical statements is having their IP recorded for 'the reckoning'.
BN: Schmuck! How many times have I told you? It's anti-Semite, not 'anti-Zionist'.
BO: (mumbles something)
BN: No buts, Goy. And more munitions. We want big ones! White phosphorus! Depleted Uranium! Bunker busters! Things that can kill children, the sneaky little bastards!
BO: But of course, master! I'll ask congress to rubber stamp it in the morning!
BN: Speaking of which - tell them 29 standing ovations is a fucking insult. Stalin managed to make people applaud until they collapsed from respiratory failure! And they STILL kept clapping as they were carried down the hall to the mortuary and were getting embalmed! Now THAT'S respect!
BO; Yes, master! etc, etc.
Impressive Jim.
You even got the home boy translation;)
I'm sure NSA will offer you a signing bonus.
I think Nutty called him Uncle Tombama repeatedly, and Uncle Tomba kept saying yes sah i polish that White House menorrah like you wanted masta, and I got the blue ribbon to hang all over the white house for when you come home Masta NuttnYidHoe
Nutting: Bama straighten up or next time you come in for your mind control ultra training I am going to go rough on you then turn you over to Isaura.
What will he win?
Approve or disapprove this post here. I for one, like it and will mark this post up since I can't do it up there because of the glitch with quotes.
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?" Joshua/WOPR
My only consolation in the face of all this manipulation and disinformation is that I don't have to live their lives, be who they are, and make their choices.
Someone actually used "brilliant" and "Obama" in the same sentence! God help us! Reality has completely vanished into the ether! Wait, where am I!?! Hold on, I thought I was losing it. That must have been a genius of sarcasm that went way over my (ham-) head.
Israel said it's bogus, too.
Frankly, it reads as fraudulent to me. The conversation would not go that way nor be worded that way, by either side.
Crash,
They have too!
Anyway, major disagreement between them. Israel will retrieve.
Quite right, Crash.
It's too formal, stilted, not just fake but a poor fake. These old bloodsuckers would be polite and evasive as they do a scorpions dance. This was done in a hurry by the b team.
"Frankly, it reads as fraudulent to me. The conversation would not go that way nor be worded that way, by either side."
My sense as well. This doesn't sound like a conversation at all. It sounds like two computers talking to each other. Very strange. Yet another piece of propaganda to put into the soup and add flavor. I admit to being completely lost now as to what is truly going on. There is one clear thing: Palestinian civilians are being slaughtered. All else is distraction.
Do you dudes not realize this was translated from English to Hebrew and back to English again?
-Chumblez.
chumbawamba,
You're smarter than that. It started in Israel. It is targeting the Jewish opposition to speak up, and the Arab population to come along. Give the Jewish opposition ammunition.
Somebody will lose face.
if no one recognizes your face, you
have no face to lose.
.
it is a fortune cookie thing
Agreed.....Barry wouldn't 'demand' anything (unless it was a reach-around at a Chicago bathhouse).
Israel's is the most militarized economy in the world. They do a lot of dirty work and weapons "research" for the West. Some new munitions are being used in this ground offensive, the HD footage of which will help with sales at weapons trade shows. You have to have current experimental data to prove the weapons are worth the sticker price. The Palestinians are just doing their part to help out.
"I admit to being completely lost now as to what is truly going on."
Me too. I think that is the point. So many claims and counter claims, the truth is in front of us, but it takes a while to sort through the lies. And so we are confused. And kids are dying. And folks are manipulating on ALL sides. That is about how far I have gotten with my sorting. Oh, and they won't stop.
If we demand all governments be dismantled on earth, the question to me is, do we get total centralized government? Or do we get localized govt? Anarchy? Localized and anarchy in places? Or possibly all of the above?
I no longer know of a government that is not corrupt.
Have they blamed Putin yet?
I will take "pathological killers for $400, Alex."
Kerry makes two mid-east rounds, while;
O' Bammy makes two 18 hole rounds at Congressional!
Kerry did not take two mid-east rounds, surely we would have heard about that?
Obama however may well have taken 36 holes at congressional.
Edit: OH, that was an m, not a t, my bad...
From what I just read, if I was BN, I'd tell BO to shove it
And I'd totally do that chick in the video
Three boys in a tub,
The water is warm,
Three gulity faces.
..that's all I got.
The transcript was edited. It left out the part where Netanyahu said to Obama: "You f--king Schwarze!"
Yah, who did the Jewish community vote for in the past two presidential elections? hmmmm...I remember this story.
I remember listening on the radio to a Jewish talk show host questioning why the Jewish community in America was supporting Obama.
hmmm...oh well. too late now.
He may break every promise he ever made. He still has time.
We only have to hang on for 2.4 more years...
2 more years...
Alot of shit can happen in that time....
"the ball's in your court" .
"i'm giving you a flagrant foul"
"this is a slam dunk"
"I feel like i'm double dribbling here"
Mr.Pink.....I will go with...things you would hear at Reggie's place when Bathhouse visits.
2 more years and Hillary will be screeching at Israel.
"What difference does it make"??
Looks like the Pickle Boy is pickled?
If this is true, though.
Wow, dude.
I mean, dude. Wow.
i can't believe it is. partners in evil, and Obama is definitely the bitch:
http://www.deesillustration.com/artwork.asp?item=656&cat=satire
Skateboarder,
You're wrong, in my opinion. This is a major power play by Obama
I think it is a manipulation or even a joke. Is it April Fools day somewhere?
Power play? Obama?
He was a lame duck on election night, any "power" he accrued was lost when Arab Springiness turned into congratulating Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood, leaving people ordered by him to Benghazi to die and of course, his "red line" in Syria (after supplying arms to ISIS).
The entire world is laughing at this pretender, with good reason.
So am I ;-)
nmewn,
Don't mix things. Netanyahu is in trouble, the way I see. Especially if he has to come to America.
Ok, now I know you're a bot or the dumbest bastard on the board tonight (besides some HuffPo lurker up top fantasizing about having sex with zionist southern christian mom's and detonating himself on top of her...or sumpin).
Did you or did you not just say this is some sort of duo inverted power play on O'Barry's part and I just said he has practically ZERO (as in zilch) standing in world leaders eyes for his "past performance" on the world stage?
Look, I have enough problems trying to make sense with idiot government gnomes throughout my day without pointing out their inconsistincies at night.
Fuck off.
Yep. Not one 'umm'... 'let me be clear'... or 'make no mistake' in the transcript.
Obviously scripted...
Maybe TOTUS eschews the sock puppet act in private and speaks with his own voice. That would leave the big-eared half-breed to sit in the chair and visualize a 14 footer going into the hole while the big people talk.
Nor was there any mention of "fair share" or the word "folks". I call bullshit.
it is? by who?
By your favorite group of evil cabalsters from Hidden Hand Criminal Holdings Inc.
Of course it's scripted: I can tell because it makes O sound like he has balls and a spine, when it comes to Israel.
Just like the tabloid I saw in the grocery store today, he was supposedly feeling up a hot chick and looking down her dress. Scripted
If Obama is caught feeling up a chick or looking down her dress.... he's only trying to see if the bra and panties come in his size.
im not saying i disagree with you, but, i am curious, if so, how does this benefit their position with mainstream americans at all?
seeing the power of the president and the USA being so obviously diminished SHOULD be infuriating to mainstream americans, no matter which party they support, who, in a time of "austerity" are increasingly aware that their tax dollars fund Israel a great deal while they are direly needed in their pockets or in the community. the outcome of the leak, in my opinion, stands most to damage Israel, especially if mainstream USA decides to pull the plug on the fungible war funding/defense kickbacks they so enjoy.
if it is just a media ploy to kick up a dust cloud while other atrocities are committed, i would say that it runs the risk of actually diminishing their position over time by behavioristically suggesting the ignomity of the office to mainstream america.
of course, this would necessitate their paying attention in the first place.
Barack Obama: I demand that Israel agrees to an immediate, unilateral ceasefire and halt all offensive activities, in particular airstrikes.
Benjamin Netanyahu: And what will Israel receive in exchange for a ceasefire?
Ho Lee Fuk
clearly trade sanctions aren't on the table
I don't know just WHO Obamatron and NuttyYahoo were talking to, but it was definitely NOT each other!
I wonder if we can ask for a copy of the real audio under a Freedom of Information request ? I guarantee the WH recorded it, and we know the NSA did.
It's worth a try. But who would do it? Bootlicking US MSM?
Stackers,
That is why it is out. They have Netanyahu by the B@@ls.
Barry trusts Qatar and Turkey. And he's a Christian! And he won the Nobel Peace Prize! And he looks an awful lot like Soebarkha, the Indonesian Subud cult leader! Just ask Loretta Fuddy, oh wait....
"He's a Christian".
That's comical. His bio father was a muzzie and the father who raised him was a muzzie. Guess how he was raised.
Muslim.
No shit, Sherlock.
Barry: .....my muslim faith
Stephanopoooolos: You mean your Christian faith?
Barry: Riiiiight....
(did not junk you)
Did BO the White House dog take the phone call?
But momma was jewish and M16 so which is he? Maybe he is Donmeh Wahhabbi moslem which is not really moslem.
No worries, it's a badge of honor to get junked by these single helix muzzie loving mutants.
Dude.... Sarcasm.... Jeez....
It's hard to tell without a /sarc tag.
I'm sorry to have disappointed you, oh great jcaz. /sarc
See, like that.
All Israel asks of the U.S. is that they support them in their Nazi-like ethic cleansing of all
the people who border Israel to allow them to expand their Zionist state.
This is great Middle East propaganda to Obama.
And very damaging to Israel.
I am going to read it again…
Yes, the other side of the coin . . .
Not Too Important,
I hear you, but it comes from inside Israel. Netanyahu is in trouble. US administration smells blood.
The otherside of the coin is a conspiracy, only the cynical, thruthers, and tin-foil wearn' deniers beliieve there is another side...
Is it too hard? Is it too much to ask?
Yeah, more friends like Hamas and Isis will get the desired outcome.
What should Israel do? Just let the Zlims over-run them and slaughter their women and children? Maybe you're a sympathizer with the radical Islamic agenda in the Middle East?
Sure - Israel creates more terrorists by some of its policies. But the Zlims are proven over and over again to be, by and large, NOT persons you can deal with and trust when it comes to peace agreements. Remember Anwar Sadat? He tried, and got bugsplatted.
I've had business dealings with Swedes and Muslims - I have to say that neither culture recommends itself as respects keeping their agreements. See - I'm not prejudiced - I'm attacking liily-white Swedes and brown Zlims, based upon their track records and dealings - not based upon their race.
Of course there are exceptions to the above - I just haven't ever met any. If I ever do, I will sincerely give them every chance to prove themselves just as I have to prove myself by my deeds. I will not hold them to any different set of rules than I abide by.
What should Israel do? Close down AIPAC and stay the fuck out of US politics for starters. Then they can do whatever they want.
curious as to why you Zio dickheads keep claiming its the "Muslims" who want to overrun Israel whilst the Israelis are continuously kicking Palestinians off their lands, bulldozing their olive groves and building Jew-only settlements & roads? Maybe I should break down my neighbour's door, rape his wife, kill his kids, steal his car cos "well you know what? someday he might do that to me!"
Israel is no ally of the US. It sees the US as its enforcer and paymaster. Despite this it steals its military and industrial secrets and was known to have sold stolen top secret US military technology to the USSR in the eighties.
Israel is no ally of the US. It sees the US as its enforcer and paymaster. Despite this it steals its military and industrial secrets and was known to have sold stolen top secret US military technology to the USSR in the eighties.
He really is Pwesident Stompyfeet.
Hahahahaa! That's the truth:
https://www.perpetualassets.com/news/2014/07/29/unintended-consequences-...
It's fake! Obama was playing golf all weekend.
You know this story is false because Obama doesn't speak Herbrew. /s
"And 30 more Palestinians were killed in overnight fighting"...
The leaker will be a Jarrett underling.
The leak was probably sanctioned.
The US is turning against Israel.
The result will be the destruction of Israel.
That has been the goal all along.
Bankers will still rule. The criminals get away and the nazis get their joo blood.
I expect *somebody* has already noted what I'm about to write, but life's too short to wade through 500+ comments. On the off chance they dint, here goes: "Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied" - Bismarck
Oddly, the NSC made no mention of this famous historical quote in their breathless panicked shocked & disappointed denials. Those pussies.
Yep, Obama at best is a 2nd rate zionist shill.
Useless cunt for sure, but check out his masters' work:
About 60,000 African migrants have arrived in Israel since 2006, fleeing unrest in their home countries. But upon arrival in the ostensibly democratic country, the migrants have faced intense persecution and have been branded as "infiltrators" by right-wing politicians and activists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA
Mr President, there is this here book entitled...
How to win friends and influence people, I'm sure there is a copy in the local library........care to read it in bed perhaps......
with friends like nutty yahoo,
who needs enemies?
I'd rather have an ebola enema thanks.
They fly direct to Lagos now. Good luck with that.
Patience, that little treat is coming to your shores soon enough.
Ebola arriving here troubles me too.
Israel is really testing how far it can push the US.
I'm waiting for the day they push too far.
The day Israel loses the support of the US, or the US implodes under its debt, is the day the world will say 'bye-bye' to Israel.
I thought they went too far on 9/11...but hey, that's just me. I guess the US government is more "patient".
Same people who own US Corp., own Israel Inc. By their accounting, the Global War of Terror has been a raging success.
I like to think there are some real Americans within the security apparatus with long memories, and some day we shall be avenged. Time will tell.
They will always have a staunch base of support within the US, if nothing else due to extensive lobbying funds, so they'll never push too far -- because there's no limit to how far they can push and still have core support, not because of restraint on their part.
However, the second part of your statement is true, it's going to be a really hard sell to ship funds to another country post-USD collapse. If the US stays federally centered, I have no doubt it'll still happen even if most of the country is starving, but if the country de-federalzes/re-localizes the only funds will likely be coming from a couple very left leaning states and likely private donation campaigns.
I doubt it'll be the end of Israel, as the transcript shows, we hold them back militarily often. I do suspect that once they're without restraint, very few people will be wanting to live there, or near there, on either side of the conflict. The new problem will likely be mass immigration away from there and likely to countries deemed friendly, which is pretty much just the US.
The unintended/unexpected consequences of the USD/US collapse are going to be manifold and terrifying, this will be just one of them.
Indeed, the consequences of a cratering US dollar or US :
It's hard to understand the reds on you, I get them all the time, but I am provocative, you write commen sense. *
* For example, I was going to post a part of Article Seven of Hamas's Covenant, talk about provocative.....
EDIT: I posted it anyway above...
Any discussion topic that involves this particular country that isn't explicitly 100% supportive -- rational, a realistic observation or not -- will get reds, and I have to presume it's just a checklist item for sockpuppet accounts.
Ah, but who gets the support?
Support? When you wake up to this in the morning, no one. FYI that's Gaza just a few hours ago. Like I said, no one on either side is going to want to live near that.
Reds are the least of it. If you are not a loyal Palestinian supporter you are labeled moron, idiot, and just about anything else disparaging, not to mention death wishes. Too bad the exchange of ideas has to always end up a retard death match.
Pat Robertson, Jack Van Impe and Gracialla, Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggerty will never turn their back on them.
Or, more simply, the Rockefeller World Council of Churches and skip the telegenic sockpuppets.
"I'm waiting for the day they push too far"
Give me (the USS) Liberty or give me death!
If that wasn't enough nothing will ever be. Seriously, the same power brokers run both places. If one set of sock puppets gets to uppity, there will be an election.
I would agree, mostly, but it seems the buggers can't help themselves when it comes to pushing their luck.
No worries. The State Dept is run by AIPAC.
Who isn't? O is now like a checked-out 7th grade substitute teacher. The only problem is that his incompetence can result in things worse than spitballs.
<- Obama can't be all that bad if Netanyahu doesn't like him
<- Netanyahu can't be all that bad if Obama doesn't like him
They're both bad if they are mind fucking you.
Good one! +10
If only that analysis was confined to Israel/US issues, but it is what we face throughout the world on an epic scale. Its either bad shit or even worse shit, and so hard to choose. In some ways I envy those so totally biased as to not have to think too much.
Shalom!
NOTE TO AMERICA REGARDING RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL: If you act like a bitch after they treat you like a bitch....you're their bitch.
Ah, the old "If it barks like a bitch, and moves like a bitch..."
Do you really believe any of this bullshit?
This fabricated drama continues.
Israel a "staunch ally"? Maybe for the NSA, but when has Israel ever actually fought on the side of the US?
The US may be a "staunch ally" of Israel, but not the other way around. Which does make it a unique situation. One wonders why.
Israel is the teenager who moved out on their own. They still come home for every meal and to get their clothes washed. While mom's washing their clothes, they go through her purse for some extra cash. The parents look the other way because they believe all that BS they were told in Sunday School. The Holy Bible, been paying dividends for centuries to God's chosen people.
And if our government loves anything, it dependents.
hahahaha they deserve on another!