"US Will Feel Tangible Losses," Russia Prepares To Unleash Retaliatory Trade Wars

Tyler Durden's picture

"It's a troubling continuation/expansion of trade as a geopolitical tool," warns one Washington-based consulting firm as Russia prepares to unleash retaliatory actions to US and European sanctions. As Bloomberg reports, Russia said yesterday it may ban imports of chicken from the U.S. and fruit from Europe and is investigating McDonald's cheese for safety. In addition, a Russian lawmaker has drafted legislation that might result in U.S. accounting firms being barred from doing business in his country. All of this is odd given Jack "trust me" Lew's reassurance that Russian sanctions would have no impact on the US economy. Russia's response, US will feel 'tangible losses' from 'destructive, myopic' sanctions.

 

As Bloomberg reports, while Russia and the U.S. have long sparred over agricultural trade, the actions fueled speculation they could be retaliatory.

Russia’s food safety agency said it may ban imports of U.S. poultry and some European fruit due to contamination of the products, according Bloomberg BNA, citing Russian state media. The food safety agency, known as Rosselkhoznadzor, also said it will examine suppliers of McDonald’s cheese for their use of antibiotics.

 

Russia was the second-largest market, after Mexico, for U.S. chicken last year, according to the USA Poultry & Egg Export Council. The U.S. exported about $309 million worth of broiler chickens to Russia last year, according to the council.

 

Russia, which joined the World Trade Organization in 2012, is considering banning some European fruit that includes seeds and pits from the entire EU or from bloc’s individual member countries, said Alexei Alekseenko, an aide to Rosselkhoznadzor director Sergei Dankvert, BNA reported.

 

Fruit shipments from the EU have recently contained Oriental fruit moths, he said, according to the Russian news agency RIA. He proposed talks with EU suppliers over the issue.

Seems like that would impact the US and European economy...

“This is not a surprise,” Mike Cockrell, chief financial officer at Sanderson Farms Inc. (SAFM) of Laurel, Mississippi, said by phone. “It’s not unusual for Russia to find something wrong when they have a political reason to do so.”

 

Officials from McDonald’s, based in Oak Brook, Illinois, didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Russia explained these are not anti-US sanctions...

“These are not sanctions against U.S. We don’t have a goal to harm U.S. citizens’ quality of life,” Fedorov said. “There are companies in Russia which have sensitive positions in terms of Russia’s sovereignty and economic security.”

 

Fedorov said consulting firms and audit firms will be the first to be targeted by the new bill. Next will be U.S. media, he said.

And Russia issued a statement that US will feel 'tangible losses' from 'destructive, myopic' sanctions.

We have repeatedly spoken about the illegitimacy and groundlessness of the US sanctions against Russia. Washington will gain nothing from such decisions except for further complication of Russian-American relations and the creation of an unfavorable atmosphere in international affairs, where the cooperation between our countries often plays a key role.

 

The U.S. administration, strained creating the appearance of "sequence" in its current behavior, in fact, is merely trying to avoid responsibility for the tragic developments in Ukraine. Not Russia, and Kiev regime and its overseas patrons guilty of a growing number of civilian casualties in the eastern regions. In his pompous manner prosecutorial White House, covering the bloody military operation of Kiev, which contrary to all international norms sunk to rocket attacks peaceful cities, continues to put forward baseless claims against us.

 

One gets the impression that the U.S. sanctions pressure, transformed now at sectoral level, has one goal - to get even with us for an independent and uncomfortable for Washington politics. Please also note the obvious elements of unscrupulous trade and economic competition in the U.S. actions.

The losses that Washington will sustain from such a destructive and myopic policy will be very tangible

US officials are not happy...

“Assuming that they take this action, it would be blatant protectionism,” Clayton Yeutter, a U.S. Trade Representative under President Ronald Reagan, said in a phone interview. “There is little or no legitimacy to their complaints.”

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Putin warned of boomerangs... and sure enough here they come...

  • *EU ENERGY SANCTIONS `IRRESPONSIBLE' STEP, RUSSIA SAYS
  • *EU ENERGY SANCTIONS TO CAUSE PRICE INCREASE IN EUROPE: RUSSIA
  • *RUSSIA TO WEIGH `UNCONSTRUCTIVE' EU ATTITUDE IN FUTURE TIES
  • *EU BANKS WORKING IN RUSSIA MKT TO SUFFER FROM SANCTIONS: RUSSIA

And France is screwed...

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said Wednesday that Russia has the capability to build Mistral-class helicopter carriers on its own if France cancels the existing contract, RIA Novosti reported. “The French must prove they are serious partners and reliable contractors,” Rogozin said after a meeting between President Vladimir Putin and government ministers.

 

“If they fail to do so, we will build the [Mistral] ships on our own. We are finally capable to do it,” Rogozin said. On Monday, he expressed doubts that France would cancel the contract, which he said would be worse for France than for Russia.

And it seems Russia is not as isolated as President Obama would like everyone to think...

  • VEB IN TALKS W/ CHINA, JAPAN, ARAB COUNTRIES ON FUNDING

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BurningFuld's picture

North America is not going to have high Natural Gas Prices as we have been blessed:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-s-natural-gas-reserve...

"B.C.'s total natural gas reserves are estimated at 2,933 trillion cubic feet — enough to support development and LNG export operations for more than 150 years,"

 

That's just in BC (Canada)

Jack Burton's picture

Question is not how much there is, question is cost of production and cost of transport. Nobody argues the world is not rich in fossil fuels. But if you look at fracking and tar sands mining, these are market proofs that cheap energy is already mined and pumped. Reserves should always be noted only by how much and at what cost to produce. I know from markets that this gas can not be cheap to produce, if it was, then it would be where the extracting whould be happening and not in ND and Tar Sands. But it is an interesting claim, worth looking into, I hope I can find a production estimate and cost.

Buck Johnson's picture

Also it costs money to liquify the gas and to export it so the price of gas going to europe will be alot higher than Russia, unless the US companies are willing to take a loss which they won't. 

Utah_Get_Me_2's picture

NSA black mail is a bitch. Just ask every member of the Senate and House intelligence commitees. Every single one of them has run their comprimised, lying mouths at least once on the US govt state run media, banging the wardrums like Keith Moon after a speedball.

Carl Spackler's picture

What is this East Ukraine conflict REALLY about, and why is Obama trying so diligently to provoke the Russians into a war?

Is there something (i.e., information) Edward Snowden came across and divulged to Putin that Obama does not want the world to know (which the NSA knows Snowden provided to Putin) ???

...so Obama tries to talk tough to the world as though he has leverage over Putin (even though he does not have any)

The behavior of this White House and the attempt to re-enact the Cold War is VERY,VERY STRANGE these days. 

Why right now and why are propaganda tidbits fed to the mainstream/leftist-biased media every day? 

Is there another existential threat to Obama, such as Lois Lerner e-mails being recovered and showing Nixon-esque conspiracy?? 

It is not like the White House's current behavior has any chance to save the Democrats in the Senate.  The White House is also not going to get the Mexican border disaster out of the news (new poll: 67% of legal Latino-American citizens want the illegals sent home).

 

 

Jack Burton's picture

Carl,

You ask the very best questions. You are not alone, many people are rushing to try and make out what this is all about and what force inside American "Deep State" is driving it. Nobody knows yet. The best I heard was one very experienced Russia expert say that "Somebody inside the administration or with power over the administration is desperate to forment a war with Russia and as fast as possible".

This makes little sense on the surface. The war fever came out of nowhere really. Just a year ago the USA was almost launching a war on Iran, then it was minutes away from launching war on Syria. ISIS has taken half of Iraq and the USA does nothing.

All these actions make no sense. When the USA began backing Al-Qaeda with arms and money in Syria, and spent 5 billion courting the readical right wing nationalists of West Ukraine, nazis by anyother name, what was this all about?

Right now, there are more questions than answers. But some insiders in the Russian political system have made public their beliefs that the USA really is seeking an all out war with Russia before the onset of winter. Obama is not president, he has no power, does anyone think these are policies he made up? No way! He is being directed by the "deep State". Those who rule the NSA, CIA, Pentagon, the major banks and corporations, plus the one and all powerful Israeli lobby and direct Israeli control of congress. Look at congress if they do not meet every Jewish or Israeli demand whether from an American Jew or an Israeli, they are thrown from office by millions of dollars of political and media smear.

Who is driving this war. I wish I knew, if I find out, I will post it here, but don't hold your breath!

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Given Holland's pro-US stance, when will Russia ban Dutch two-lips?  Or British Ale, cars, or fish & chips?

Seriously though, when will BP and Royal Dutch Shell lose the Arctic drilling rights?  Unless those are paid in Gold bullion - which becomes an "exchange in kind": value for value, instead of value for American paper coupons.

Sandmann's picture

Netherlands is not pro-US it is a US Department of State willing to turn Schiphol Airport over to DHS people to search baggage and check out passengers to USA

FrY10cK's picture

'the hell??

Who reads the Washington Times besides Antonin Scalia?

Dick Gazinia's picture

Who could have seen this coming?  Putin took a shit this morning that has more brains than Odumbass.

tonyw's picture

“Assuming that they take this action, it would be blatant protectionism,” Clayton Yeutter, a U.S. Trade Representative under President Ronald Reagan, said in a phone interview.

So it's Ok for the Us to sanction russia and have travel bans but protectionism when it's russia doing something??

“There is little or no legitimacy to their complaints.”  sounds like US complaints about russia not wanting a crazy bunch of oligarchs running a country on your borders threatening to kill people who speak your language. The US would go pretty ape-shit if mexico started killing all americans in mexico.

Dick Gazinia's picture

O'Hankey the Whitehouse Poo

Steaming_Wookie_Doo's picture

If anything, the US could stand to do a little protectionism of its own instead of outsourcing itself to death. The illusion of "free trade". And I'm pretty sure that the orange stuff McDonald's claims as cheese is nothing but the  leftovers from the yoga mat factory, so they have every right not to be forced to eat that stuff. And getting cut off from Stoli and Russki Standard? It's not worth it!!!

Wouldn't it be more than ironic that Russia becomes GMO free, with more gold-based exchange. Who knew it'd become the healty libertarians' dream?

As for the US-Mexico analogy, I'd imagine the americans being fairly unsympathetic, either suggesting "get your ass back here" or "you knew it was coming sooner or later".

cnmcdee's picture

Not trying to thread jack but this is critical information everybody on the planet needs to be aware of in regards to Ebola:

The reality is Ebola is not going to be contained?  Why because it will become a Sexually Transmitted Disease!!!

The isolation of EBOV from semen 40 days after the onset of illness underscores the risk of sexual transmission of the filoviruses during convalescence. Zaire EBOV has been detected in the semen of convalescent patients by virus isolation (82 days) and RT-PCR (91 days) after disease onset. Marburg virus has also been isolated from the semen and linked conclusively to sexual transmission 13 weeks into convalescence.

http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/196/Supplement_2/S142.full

I suspect it has already entered the sexual community and sex trade workers.  Condoms WILL NOT SUFFICE, only ABSTAINING!

However people MUST stockpile and have on hand Selenium - taken in larger doses it will greatly reduce the odds of passing away if they do become infected.

Hook Line and Sphincter's picture

Nice ad.

I know for sure I've been exposed, as blood runs from my schnitzel as I type. Where can I buy selenium sir? Please tell!

NotAMathWhiz's picture

Yes, do tell, looks like I'm going to need a lot of it, because you said large doses.  I didn't read the article, because it was long and had a lot of really big words, but I'm worried now because of what you said and want to take whatever you recommend, because you sound smart and included a link to another website, which is hard to do.

Tall Tom's picture

They can still contain Ebola...

 

Nuke Lagos...They are all dead anyway. The population density is much too great and transmission rates will be extreme.

 

And it needs to be done before people start fleeing in droves.

 

Once that happens it is too late.

 

If you do not believe that this is on the table and being considered as an option then you are dreaming.

 

China will be next on the list as their Nationals will bring it to China. They have many business interests in Nigeria and Africa.

 

And speaking of Population Density...China's people are stacked on top of one another. It will devastate China.

 

We have a small window of opportunity. It is closing rapidly.

 

They will stage a False Flag Terror attack in Lagos. That will be the expedient method of doing the Dirty Deed.

 

It is cold, cruel, and necessary.

 

Is the sacrifice of 40 Million worth saving 6.3 Billion?

 

You can downarrow this if you please as it is abhorrent. But it is expedient.

 

The first case that occurs on the Asian Contienent will be the decisive moment.

Dublinmick's picture

I have always wondered who put that monument on Stone Mountain.

Tall Tom's picture

It was not me.

 

I am just reporting the oncoming Hell which I see.

 

I do not necessarily support that which I report.

 

At times I do and at times I do not.

 

My bet is that it will be China that does the "Dirty Deed" as they had no problem wiping out their own during the time of Mao Tse Tung.

 

The West and Russia will turn a Blind Eye.

 

 

10mm's picture

All by design, Kill the dollar as Kyle Bass stated from a senior Oboinko official.

Radical Marijuana's picture

That article you linked, Truthseeker2:

"How could the controllers in Washington (and NYC) and London have been so clueless as to the profound and pervasive repercussions, should their foolish scheme fall apart?"

They are NOT "clueless," they are criminally insane. For thousands of years, human civilizations have been controlled through lies backed by violence. The political economy was built on that foundation. The people who currently dominate the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire were the best at backing up deceits with destruction. However, there is nothing in the history of that which requires them to continue to be rational. Rather, they tend to believe in childish superstitions, while their historical ability to have been the best organized gangs of criminals, able to capture control over governments, through applying the methods of organized crime to the political processes, does NOT mean that they are still remotely rational, but only that they used to be the best professional liars and immaculate hypocrites.

Overall, it is NOT possible to fully comprehend the degree to which pumping up social pyramid systems based on lies backed by violence with technologies that have become trillions of times more powerful has created a global civilization that has become criminally insane, while it is still dominated by the most criminally insane people. They merely have their own psychological and political HABITS, which were selected through thousands of years of human history to become the maximum possible deceits and frauds. There is a growing Grand Canyon between the exponential progress in science and technology, inside of social systems based on thousands of years of history of being able to back up lies with violence, which had selected for the people who were the best at doing that to be able to come to dominate a globalized civilization BASED ON ENFORCED FRAUDS.

Meanwhile, countries like Russia and China were forced to learn the tricks of the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire. However, that meant that their growing ability to compete with the previously dominate global empire of the best organized gangs of criminals required them to become similar kinds of organized criminals, in order to be able to operate better resistance, within the dynamic equilibria of the different systems of organized lies, operating robberies. However, ALL of them are basically social pyramid systems, base on lies, backed by violence, which have become runaway criminal insanities.

ENFORCED FRAUDS, despite almost totally dominating society, and dominating the ways that almost everyone thinks and behaves, are nevertheless runaway criminal insanities. As far as I can tell, the criminal insanity of the ruling classes runs throughout the lower levels of those they rule over. We ARE like fish swimming our whole lives through the social waters of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, while those automatically became more criminally insane, due to the inherent contradictions of that situation being continually pumped up and up ... BOTH THE RULING CLASSES, AND THOSE THEY RULE OVER, HAVE LIVED FOR GENERATION AFTER GENERATION INSIDE SYSTEMS OF ENFORCED FRAUDS, WHOSE "SUCCESS" HAS DRIVEN THEM TO BECOME CRIMINALLY INSANE!

The Western banksters have been able to persuade pretty well everyone to deliberately ignore the basic laws of nature, or to misunderstand those laws of nature backwards, since the oldest and best developed human science was warfare, while economics was built on that foundation. THERE IS NO RATIONAL LIMIT TO WHAT THE BANKSTERS WOULD ATTEMPT TO DO TO CONTINUE TO CONTROL THE WORLD IN THOSE WAYS:

http://www.thecactusland.com/2014/07/the-seven-pillars-of-matrix.html

... Money is the most brilliant accomplishment of ["human farming."] Billions of people spend most of their waking lives either acquiring it or spending it without ever understanding what it actually is. In this hologram of a world, the only thing one can do without money is breath. For almost every other human activity they want currency, from eating and drinking to clothing oneself and finding a partner. Religion came from innate spirituality and patriotism from the tribe, but money the ["human farmers"] invented themselves - the most fantastic and effective of all their tools of domestication.

They have convinced the slaves that money actually has some intrinsic value, since at some point in the past it actually did. Once they were finally able to disconnect money completely from anything other than their computers, they finally took complete control, locked the last gate and electrified all the fences. They ingeniously print it up out of the nothing and loan it with interest in order for 18-year-olds to spend four years drinking and memorizing propaganda as they begin a financial indebtedness that will most likely never end.

By the time the typical American is thirty the debt is mounted so high that they abandon any hope of ever being free of it and embrace their mortgages, credit cards, student loans and car loans as gifts from a sugar daddy. What they rarely ask themselves is why they must work to make money while banks can simply create it with a few key strokes. If they printed out notes on their own printers, and loaned those with interest to their neighbors, they would wind up in a penitentiary, but not our friends on Wall Street - they do just that and wind up pulling the strings in the White House. The genius of the money scam is how obvious it is. When people are told that banks create money out of nothing and are paid interest for it the good folks are left incredulous. “It can't be that simple!" And therein lies the rub - no one wants to believe that they have been enslaved so easily ...

THE MASSES OF ZOMBIE SHEEPLE, WHO HAVE BEEN FLEECED TO EXHAUSTION, ARE BEING SET UP TO BE SLAUGHTERED. IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT IS RUNAWAY CRIMINAL INSANITY, IT IS NEVERTHELESS THE REAL PATH THAT WE ARE ON!

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

@ espirit: "Putin won't import anymore U.S. inflation?"

Good one, espirit!  The HKD is another currency to keep an on, IMHO, as it seems to position itself to do the same, by finally decoupling from its peg to the USD.

Currencies getting out of the way of the Currency Dominoes, baby.  Alas, the Shekel can't decouple.  Their fate is DNA-intertwined with the USD.

I Am Not a Copper Top's picture

Are "Tangible Losses" more severe than "Costs?"

Vampyroteuthis infernalis's picture

Tit-for-tat. The US has a lot more to lose that Russia and Putin knows it.

Hook Line and Sphincter's picture

Espirit called it right up front. However, it's when China no longer allows the exportation of our inflation to its 'roadside defecators' that its really going to hurt. Come to think of it, US denizens will likely not be able to afford TP and become just like their Chinese brethren.

Hook Line and Sphincter Challenged

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Nah, the Fed will just print those losses, and the S&P will set new records.

Until they can't.

espirit's picture

...at least those Trillion Dollah U.S. Notes will be washable after utilized as TP.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

"...the main role in the creation of such a political coalition is to be played by the European business community because America’s attempts to ignite a war in Europe and a cold war against Russia are threatening the interests of big European business."

"Judging by the recent efforts to stop the sanctions against Russia, made by the German, French, Italian and Austrian business leaders, Putin’s aide is right in his assessment."

"Somewhat surprisingly for Washington, the war for Ukraine may soon become the war for Europe’s independence from the US and a war against the dollar."

Totally nailed it!  But then, that's just my Affirmation Bias talking, since I've been saying this here for many months.

angel_of_joy's picture

Members of the alliance would also refrain from keeping the currency reserves in dollar-denominated instruments. Glazyev advocates treating positions in dollar-denominated instruments like holdings of junk securities and believes that regulators should require full collateralization of such holdings

Full collateral for dollar denominated instruments ? It sounds awfull close to, say... GOLD ?!

insanelysane's picture

I find O to be an a-hole but this might be another genius move by O.  Now that US manufacturing has left the country, it doesn't look good in the world to buy American only.  But what if you are "forced" to buy and manufacture American because of global geopolitical conflict???  Hmmm?

codecode's picture

That's going to be an extremely painful, long-term reversal for the American people... quite frankly I don't think O is that smart. He is either thinking about this year's election or 2016... Mostly his golf score.

Miles Ahead's picture

@ insanelysane; a genius move, and you spotted it.  Good on.  

I can see your point.  With no US Mfg, it certainly wouldn't look good to buy US Mfg goods.  In fact it would be insane...ly.  And heaven forbid, now the world is going to be forced to buy something that no longer exists, due to Obama's pokin' Putin'. 

Furthermore, other unlucky souls may be forced to Manufacture American also.  Whoa unto those who try to steal some land from Ukraine in the future.  Let this be a lesson to all…  Japan, S. Korea, Germany, France, UK, China, Brazil, Indonesia… ad nauseum.  They could be forced to manufacture American too.

agent default's picture

If there is any further escalation US investments abroad will be nationalized.  This will gut the US economy worse the great depression.  Good luck getting any investment into anything at home if this happens. 

PT's picture

insanelysane:  It's easy to burn a match.  It's not so easy to get all the ash and smoke and turn it back into a match.  Are any of them Detroit factories still in working condition?  What about all the people that used to work there?  Are they still skilled and ready to go?  I got no idea what resources are local to US and what yous have to import but there's your first task.  Then rebuild your factories and skill up your workforce.  Even your simplest tasks can be done five times faster by an expert.  But the learning curve can be quick.

Of course, all that rebuilding and re-skilling costs money, which no-one has so now we can have a good laugh about how unemployed people are homeless because they don't have the skills or parts with which to make a house, which is a shame because otherwise they would all have jobs building houses for each other.  They can't get the parts or the skills because they haven't got any money with which to get those parts and skills.  This can lead to a wonderful little bit of enlightenment about the true role of money in the world - you got labour and parts but no-one can work for a living because they have no money!  Have a little think about it.

Now, assuming that you rebuild the factories and reskill the workforce, all that is left is costs.  Tariffs can stop people from being tempted to buy stuff cheap from overseas (apart from the black market types) but why can't the US just build stuff cheaper?  Well, eventually someone is going to mention that to make that happen, people are just going to have to be paid less.  And if the workers have any brains, at that point they will point out that they could easily withstand being paid less if everything else cost less - cars, I mean bicycles, food, clothes, HOUSES and all real estate because, face it, the reason everything else has to cost so much is to pay the mortgage on the land on which the shop, supermarket and factory sits.  You think you got a huge mortgage?  What about the supermarket and factory owners?  (errr, or their would-be competitors.  I hear the big chains get 'special' treatment ...)  For the US to truly get competitive, sooner or later the price of land has to go down.  And land owners don't like that idea.  And banksters, who love to use the 'value' of land as collateral for everything and proof that they are solvent, also do not like that idea.

That is what you are up against.

my_nym's picture

What they're up against is the same old cyclical scam that even after successful fusions with World War, can probably only last so long before another World War or DUMB goy trying to do away with it.  (Instead of seeking to be incorporated in it closer to the top of the pyramid scheme.)

There is nothing surprising in a Goy nation falling under the domination of the Jewish print. .... I propose to give you a few quotations that canNOT, I think, by any stretch of imagination, in fact, cannot by any stretch of anything, save the infinite impertinence of the Yid, be considered Axis propaganda. In fact, I propose to quote an ANTI-Fascist paper printed in England on October 14th, 1939. And then await the SILENCE which greets all unanswerable data in your unhappy land. The passages I’m about to read were gathered together by L.D. Byrne on the date indicated, 1939. QUOTE:

Just as I told them in Ottawa in 1923, exactly what was going to happen in 1928, so I tell you now in 1934, that before 1940 if you have not changed your financial system, it will change and probably eliminate you.

That was Major C.H. Douglas in the Alberta legislature, April, 1934. Next quote.

As I came here tonight I bought an evening paper, on the front page of which were the words “Germans in the Rhineland.” We are back in 1914 where the financiers said they would get us.

Douglas in Westminster, March 1936. Next quote:

For 20 years the Social Credit movement … has persistently warned people that in the absence of effective and timely reform of the financial system, that system would precipitate war and revolution on a scale which might destroy the fabric of civilized society

That is from Byrne himself, who next quotes Thomas Jefferson:

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

....Again quote:

I have two great enemies, the Southern army in front of me and the financial institutions in the rear. Of the two the one in the rear is my greatest foe.

That was Abraham Lincoln. Quote, that is again quote:

The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods, or throw light upon its crimes.

That was William J. Bryan, and I trust Mr. Ullstein or Isaac Schmollensnout or his makeup editor or his printer devil is served.

As to whether Jefferson, Lincoln, Bryan and L.D. Byrne were engaged in offering Axis propaganda, I leave it to the remaining British denizens of Britain and the United States to decide.

It is time; it has been time for the past 30 or 80 years for the people of England and America to understand the war process. To understand that they have been edged into war NOT pro patria, not for their father’s land or their nation, BUT for the profit of a few scoundrels and for an ENEMY, an enemy that desires to cast down from their seats all the mighty, and all the orderly, to cast down every nation that exists openly, every government that exists OPENLY pro bono publico, for the people.

 

Now it's time for a war again, one way or another.  Provided that the goy stay stupid and never wonder exactly what Jack Lew's and Greenspan's and Bernkanke's Talmudic traditions entail.  They heard about Donald Sterling's version of it, vaguely.  Sort of.  Sort of like Donald "It's just my culture." Sterling himself only vaguely knows about Jewish supremacy, ethnic networking and tribalism based on "everyone is out to get us!!!  Everyone!!!  Quick, form a tribe or somethin' to police them or detain or assassinate them without trial first...."  Note the jarring juxtapositions that are created by cultures that people have absorbed by osmosis.  What if sixeteeen year old Jewish kids were being assassinated without trial?  Would Jack Lew, Rahm Immanuel, Charles Schumer and others have something to say about "due process"?  

Probably. 

In any event most goy are, like Arab goyim, still DUMB... and so they perish or are incorporated in wars that create more debt/money for their children to pay back.  There is a mind bending amount of stupidity and ignorance among the goyim that almost justifies the disdain with which many Talmudists view them while making a killnig on them. 

Almost. 

Dublinmick's picture

The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles? ~John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, 20 June 1815

LawsofPhysics's picture

Bullshit.  Math and the law of averages always wins.  You tell me, who would you rather have as your neighbor, the average Russian or average American?

johny2's picture

i would prefer a neighbour who provides me with petroleum amd natural gas to the one who draws pictures which he insist I use as money, and throws bombs around the neighbourhood on daily basis

Postal's picture

The average Russian... female. ;-)

Gavrikon's picture

Da!  Ya fuckin' Hotchu!

Gavrikon's picture

Is this a trick question?  Except for the intelligent American types who hang out here, I fucking hate Americans.

Tall Tom's picture

The average American is just like the average Russian.

 

Really they are no different from one another. Both are just trying to make rent, pay for food, provide for their families, and are easily persuaded by that fucking One Eyed Mind Sucker, Television (TeeVee).

 

Do me a favor and do not believe the "Talking Heads" (TeeVee Commentators, propagandist reporters) on your TeeVee Stations.

 

Unplug your TeeVee Set as they are giving you an image of the average American that is far from the truth.

 

We are all Human Beings, dude, that hate death and destruction...Unfortunately we hate our own death and destruction more than the other guy as most are self interested.

 

Many people just have not the ability to place themselves in another's situation.

 

Stop hating.

RaceToTheBottom's picture

It is very interesting to only read one source of news for a few days.  Then stop and only read another source of news for a few days.

They might be 120% different.  Very enlightening the propaganda games and how well they work on both sides.

Group think and Propaganda are both evils...

Dublinmick's picture

Tall Tom "stop hating"? You must be anti-semitic

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

There are plenty of smart, decent Americans who don't hang out here.  They are simply minding their own business and looking after their job and family -- the way people try to do all over the planet, since the dawn of history.  They took the Blue Pill, but know that something's wrong.

By "I fucking hate Americans", you can't possible mean its "sheeple", since every country has its share and American sheeple don't bother anyone.  So, you must refer to the sociopath assholes who've hijacked our media, government and many corporate board rooms.  And, in the process, have turned our free-market system into a crony, casino capitalism, where Mafiosa Oligarchs rule. 

Hey that sounds a bit like... our Oli's don't like their Oli's -- cause one group worships at a Temple, the other at a Church.  But both pray to the same God.  Even though they both secretly worship power and money.

Same as it ever was.

Schizofrantic Squonk's picture

Do you mean the "Reset" button, or the "Overcharged" button?

Antifaschistische's picture

Mr. Putin, I'm sure you and the NSA know who I am.

Can you contact me and allow me to get my Kamaz 4326 4x4 truck first?   I'm disgusted that the Detroit lobby has prevented all good 4x4 trucks (Kamaz, MAN, Tatra, Mercedes) from being imported into the US.