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Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:05 | 5032597 BullyBearish
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The fact that they think the "Anti-semitism" banner would allow thinking people to excuse, allow, support their atrocities shows their true psychopathy...or their genius at constructing a "free pass" based on guilt.  Guilt is very powerful if you feel it.  Guilt is what gave us Obama.  Unfortunately for the world, they don't possess the guilt or the truth genes.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:56 | 5032545 HerrDoktor
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You know, you can see William Banzai7's work on his own site, so there really is no reason to visit ZH any longer.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:42 | 5032848 Jano
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get lost then.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:37 | 5032450 Chipped ham
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It starts and ends with this:  The Hamas Charter states that Israel must be eliminated.  What, praytell, can anyone negotiate with that premise?  Where is the middle ground?  Sometimes there is no diplomatic solution. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 12:33 | 5033248 The Phallic Crusader
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Are you familiar with Likud's platform?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:32 | 5033567 Frostfan1
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Actually no, can you cut and paste their land objective?  Thanks.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:54 | 5032530 Sheikh_Speare
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People don't have to negotiate with genocidal land grabers, go fuck yourself.

It starts with zionist stealing Palestine and killing people you fuck.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:53 | 5032528 Setarcos
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It starts and ends with the Zionist claim to all land from the Nile to the Euphrates.

It starts and ends with Zionism being essentially identical with Nazism ... a chosen people entitled to "liebenraum" (living room) at the total expense of people already living on the land.

With the Nazis it was Slavs who were "sub-human" and expendable.  With Zionists it is Arabs, but the basic, psychopathic mind-set is exactly the same.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:13 | 5033489 Frostfan1
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What Israeli document makes that claim?  What's the name of the law?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:33 | 5032777 Sheikh_Speare
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Well said Setarcos.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:19 | 5032701 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Little aside on all this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

"The Jews of Germany"), are a Jewish ethnic division, which coalesced in the Holy Roman Empire around the turn of the first millennium.[12] The traditional language of Ashkenazi Jews consisted of various dialects of Yiddish. They established communities throughout Central and Eastern Europe, which had been their primary region of concentration and residence until recent times, evolving their own distinctive characteristics and diasporic identities.[13] Once emancipated, weaving Jewish creativity into the texture of European life (Hannah Arendt),[14] the Ashkenazi made a 'quite disproportionate and remarkable contribution to humanity' (Eric Hobsbawm[15]), and to European culture in all fields of endeavour: philosophy, scholarship, literature, art, music and science.[16][17] The genocidal impact of the Holocaust, the mass murder of approximately six million Jews during World War II devastated the Ashkenazi and their Yiddish culture, affecting almost every Jewish family.

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The Holocaust

Of the estimated 8.8 million Jews living in Europe at the beginning of World War II, the majority of whom were Ashkenazi, about 6 million – more than two-thirds – were systematically murdered in the Holocaust. These included 3 million of 3.3 million Polish Jews (91%); 900,000 of 1.5 million in Ukraine (60%); and 50–90% of the Jews of other Slavic nations, Germany, Hungary, and the Baltic states, and over 25% of the Jews in France. Sephardi communities suffered similar depletions in a few countries, including Greece, the Netherlands and the former Yugoslavia.[63] As the large majority of the victims were Ashkenazi Jews, their percentage dropped from nearly 92% of world Jewry in 1931 to nearly 80% of world Jewry today.[58] The Holocaust also effectively put an end to the dynamic development of the Yiddish language in the previous decades, as the vast majority of the victims of the Holocaust, around five million, were Yiddish speakers.[64] Many of the surviving Ashkenazi Jews emigrated to countries such as Israel, Canada, Argentina, Australia, and the United States after the war.

Following the holocaust, some sources place Ashkenazim today as making up approximately 83–85 percent of Jews worldwide,[65][66][67][68] while Sergio DellaPergola in a rough calculation of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, implies that Ashkenazi make up a notably lower figure, less than 74%.[21] Other estimates place Ashkenazi Jews as making up about 75% of Jews worldwide.[22] Ashkenazi Jews constitute around 35–36% of Israel's total population, or 47.5% of Israel's Jewish population.[23][24]

Return to Israel

In Israel, the term Ashkenazi is now used in a manner unrelated to its original meaning, often applied to all Jews who settled in Europe and sometimes including those whose ethnic background is actually Sephardic. Jews of any non-Ashkenazi background, including Mizrahi, Yemenite, Kurdish and others who have no connection with the Iberian Peninsula, have similarly come to be lumped together as Sephardic. Jews of mixed background are increasingly common, partly because of intermarriage between Ashkenazi and non-Ashkenazi, and partly because many do not see such historic markers as relevant to their life experiences as Jews.[69]

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So we have german jews aka ashkenazi who exterminated by a Nazi party that was supposedly anti-semitic lead by a person who was supposedly was MI5 agent and Rothschild bastard making him a blood relation to these people.

Then you have this.

http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/top-israeli-scientist-says-ashkenazi-jews-ca...

And Neo-Nazi's collaberating with khazarian jews in Ukraine.

Then you have Israel with the star of David Al-Roy on it who was a displaced Khazarian jew in Iran who claimed to be the Messiah and led a jewish crusade back in the 11th century to take back the Khazaria and Judea.

Sounds like a sick Luciferian joke going on here.

I'll leave everyone with a thought

There is an Italian saying. Blood makes you related. Loyality makes you family.

That is the key to deciphering the wolves in sheep clothing hiding behind zionism to push agendas that are not in jewish people's best interests.

If you believe bloodlines determine inheritence then you'll understand that the Palestinians are the clear owners and desecendents of modern day Israel because of blood since they are the closest blood relatives to the 12 tribes of Israel even though they've long since converted to Islam.

One of the closest second blood relations would be the Georgian Jewish community.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Georgia.html

Those people are not Ashkenazi jews though there is a population of them still in Georgia and was a sizable population in South Ossetia who fled after they became a disputed territory to Israel.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:30 | 5032753 Frostfan1
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You may get a lot of down arrows for this.  People here don't like the word six million and holocaust put together.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 12:38 | 5033286 The Phallic Crusader
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Frost, I never, ever doubted the Holocaust or the 6 million figure until they started making it illegal, at the behest of Europe's many Jewish/Zionist groups, an actual crime, to question only that.

You can question any other aspect of history, or of the war - from the number of German POWs killed after the war, to, for the moment, the number of Bolshevik leaders who were in fact Jewish at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution.

 

Only this one topic is a crime to question.  So, if, for example, someone were to say - no - it was 4 million, 2 million were Christian Poles - and thought, in good faith they had good evidence - they could go to jail.

 

I still don't have a "belief" that the whole story is a fabrication, but, due to that law, I now have my doubts. 

 

Thank goodness we still have free speech and a relatively free internet here in the US. 

 

The answer to speech you don't like is more speech - not criminalizing thought.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 16:10 | 5034570 TNTARG
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"Only this one topic is a crime to question."

You forget Anna Frank's Diary.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:11 | 5033476 Frostfan1
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I have a different analogy regarding the holocaust deniers and it's not that I don't understand their mentality.  Basically, it's like trying to argue with me about whether Derek Jeter is the greatest shortstop of all time.  At some point, you're going to realize you'll never convince me that anyone else could be the greatest shortstop, especially if I answer you, "But he's not Derek Jeter."  The holocaust denier arguments were basically becoming that and the instigators really didn't care whether they lied, insulted or started fights.  Every fact or piece of evidence showing Germans killed Jews was to be disregarded because, well, the requies you have to and we're talking people's past, their experiences, and their relatives.

The US uses the free speech and yelling fire in a movie theatre to make the same point.

As for the actual number, you want to say it's 4 million and not 6 million, shrug shoulders and move on.  That's not the intent of those laws.

 To say it's zero and then lie, distort and make up facts and insult people that lived in concentration camps and call them liars, come on. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:44 | 5032873 alien-IQ
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Yes, many of us are opposed to gross exaggerations and distortions of fact. Your fairytale no longer holds sway over people with the capacity to think for themselves and do simple math. Because that's all it takes to see through your lies: Simple math.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:36 | 5032443 discopimp
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  • "You cannot like the word, but what is happening is an occupation -- to hold 3.5 million Palestinians under occupation. I believe that is a terrible thing for Israel and for the Palestinians." --May 26, 2003 CNN   - Ariel Sharon
Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:27 | 5032415 danepol
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There is no territory more occupied than the body of a Palestinian woman, or a strip... severed by the violent imposition of the superstitions of Allah and the followers of Mohammed. We had better not even mention the situation of Palestinian homosexuals. This selective outrage by top progressives when it involves Israel is indeed anti-Semitism." — Alberto Moyano, Spanish newspaper editor.

"It is possible legitimately to criticize Israel. But it smells fishy when all of the blame is attributed to Israel, without even mentioning the small detail that a terrorist and jihadist group that rules Gaza has infringed on every conceivable humanitarian principle, by using civilians as human shields, and launching missiles from apartment blocks, while their leaders are living comfortable in Qatar, guests of a sheik." — Ángel Mas, Spanish analyst.

There has been virtually no public outcry whatsoever in Spain over the deaths of more than 160,000 people during three years of fighting in Syria; the decimation of ancient Christian communities at the hands of Islamists in Iraq; the kidnapping of 300 girls by Islamists in Nigeria; or the downing of a civilian passenger plane in Ukraine.

 

"The most anti-Semitic people are supposedly the most educated and well-informed." — Spanish Ministry of Foreign Affairs report on anti-Semitism in Spain.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:01 | 5032574 Sheikh_Speare
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First of all, learn genetics, Palestinians are Semites, so killing 1300 of them in a few weeks is the most anti-semietic thing going on.

Secondly, please focus on the article posted, if you're replying here.

 People have a legal right of resistance, recognized by international law. When your land is being stolen and you're being massacred by the thousands, you have the right to resist.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:17 | 5032374 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://uscrow.org/2013/03/24/how-to-hide-from-predator-drones-uav-unmann...

http://uscrow.org/2013/08/05/how-to-kill-predator-drones-uavs/

Not just for Gaza either, you never know with these people in charge here. Lot's of good info in the comments section.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:58 | 5032306 alien-IQ
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Looks like Israel is about to attack yet another hospital:

https://twitter.com/jncatron/status/495205855277891584

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 12:34 | 5033258 xavi1951
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Hamas uses hospitals and schools to lob mortars and rockets.  Israel responds and children die.  Idiots like you blame Israel.  Read 'Because they hate', the Muslims have used that tactic for a long time and it gets them the results they want.  Idiots like you.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:45 | 5032262 alien-IQ
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I  think Hell just froze over.

 

US senate blocks aid to Israel

 

US aid to Israel has been blocked by Republican senators, who have concerns that support for America's "number one ally" would increase the country's debt. The aid, worth $225 million for Israel's Iron Dome missile defence system, was included in a proposed "border aid bill" worth a total of $2.7 billion, which was also intended to help fight wildfires in America's Western states.

 

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/americas/13174-us-senate-blocks-a...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:24 | 5033530 Frostfan1
Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:10 | 5032364 Comte d'herblay
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Smoke screen for the proletariat.

Some other funding will be sent to Israel in some language included in the Education or School Lunch bill, possibly in the Gay marriage edict. 

Theater of the Absurd, that's what the U.S. Federal government is.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:19 | 5032399 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Agreed. Kabuki theatre it is. Not like they are going to pass anything partisan so stuffing these bills with statements means shit. They were never meant to pass in the first place, just posteuring is all.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:16 | 5032385 alien-IQ
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True, but nevertheless, it is a first which suggests to me that public pressure is having some impact. Small, but some. It's a start.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:23 | 5032719 Frostfan1
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If you actually believe that, you have no fucking clue what's going on.  The Israel bill will come on its own unattached to any border bills and pass like 90 to 3.  There is minimal public pressure against Israel in the US. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:30 | 5032201 alien-IQ
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The cease fire is over. Israel launches new round of bombing attacks on Gaza.

 

The Tel Aviv regime has unilaterally ended a UN-brokered ceasefire in Gaza, with the Israeli army launching fresh deadly attacks on civilian sites across the besieged Gaza Strip.

 

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/01/373621/israel-unilaterally-ends-...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:00 | 5032567 Frostfan1
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Way to quote the Iranians!!! 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:51 | 5032518 HerrDoktor
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...immediately after yet another rocket attck.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:03 | 5032582 Sheikh_Speare
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bottle rocket attack.............fixed it for you

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:30 | 5032200 Rikky
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GW your bias is readily apparent. Maybe you should try to instill a new holiday you can call it Kill a Kike Day.  When you are so one sided you lose all credibility and become another pass over.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:12 | 5032370 Comte d'herblay
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You protest too much, ma'am.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:56 | 5032298 LasVegasDave
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George is happy if his accuracy hovers at the Mendoza line

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendoza_Line

 

Its a shame to see ZH moving closer to GW's weltanschauung instead of showing him the door

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:03 | 5032330 alien-IQ
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It's really very simple: Some people enjoy killing babies, others don't. And then there are those of us that view killing babies as a war crime that should be punished by death. It's pretty clear where you stand. I hope it's clear where I stand also.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:16 | 5032386 Canucklehead
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So... what are your thoughts on abortion?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:52 | 5032526 HerrDoktor
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+1000 canucklehead

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 12:11 | 5033056 Colonel Klink
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Is that you Herr Doktor Mengele?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:41 | 5032466 Setarcos
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Fuck off!  That's a whole other issue to do with foetuses, not babies, and very complex, with such worst case scenarios of a 12 year old girl being raped by her own father.  Should she be forced to go full term with the foetus?

There is an absolute difference between an abortion in such a case (and many others) and bombing a hospital, for instance, and knowingly killing wanted babies, other children, their mothers, hospital staff, etc..

Fuck off knucklehead.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:19 | 5032397 alien-IQ
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I think your mother should have gone through with it so I could have been spared having to reply to your idiocy.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:54 | 5032292 Toolshed
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"When you are so one sided you lose all credibility and become another pass over."

You mean like you just did? GW has more integrety and credibility than you can comprehend, obviously. I do not always agree with GW, but he is spot on with Israel. Netanyahoo and his cronies are turning Israel into an international pariah. Talk about anti-semetic! They must really despise the Jews to blatantly generate so much widespread hatred towards them. Good job!!!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:44 | 5032477 Rikky
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kettle, meet pot.  first off you don't know me or my integrity/credibility and in this case you really don't need to.  all one need do is read the stuff GW posts and it's pretty apparent where his position lies just like you.  israel has 2 choices kill or be killed.  what would you do?  and please don't give me nonsense about them being occupiers and give the land back blah blah blah.  israel to arab ratio in the region is something like 200:1 yet i'm supposed to feel sympathy for the horde that thinks wiping out the Jews will help usher in the 12th imam.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:15 | 5032679 Frostfan1
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GW get some stuff right but his obsession with Israel is just overkill.   His articles on Fukushima are interesting.  Just about everything else is something you roll your eyes on.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:27 | 5032190 BullyBearish
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Great job George...keep it up

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:36 | 5032214 SamAdams
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History lesson:

Cannan was Israel's original name.

Hyksos (Hebrews) were the rulers of Egypt for about 200 years. Eventually, the working revolted against their lying, cheating, taxing and they were run out of Egypt (exiled, as they have been many times since). They went to Cannan, took it over and called it Isis-AmenRa-Elohim (Israel).

Palestine is the name given to it by the Romans as a Romantacized version of Philistine, after the Romans conquered Israel. The Hyksos mentality at that point was known as Pharisee.

Present Lesson:

The crazies in the Middle East committing genocide on Muslims is "ISIS".  Isis claims to control the territory bordering Israel, but has made no attempt to attack Israel, only other Muslims around the gas pipeline routes.  These routes are important to Saudi Arabia and Israel and the bankers who own Israel.  It lets them displace Russia's influence on E Europe by taking control of energy.  What was it that Kissinger said about controlling energy?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:16 | 5032501 oudinot
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No one knows who the Hyksos were or where they came from or where they went when ejected from Egypt..  They are referred to in antiquity as the 'sea people' and probably came from modern day Turkey.  They also seem to be the original Etruscans in Northern Italy.

Your simple  'history' is a farce and a joke.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:02 | 5032317 Toolshed
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"Cannan was Israel's original name."

Yep, and it's inhabitants were called the Cananites. When the Jews stopped circling the desert and came upon their supposed promised land, there was a slight problem.......it was already populated by nasty, nasty gentiles. Oh well, only one thing to do, kill them take their land, and enslave the survivors. Sound familiar? It's all in the Bible. There are other historical accounts as well. Jews invented terrorism, have the most practice with it's execution, and are thus, the very best at it. Let's send them some more bombs and money so we can be as despsied as they are!!! YeeHaa!!!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:16 | 5033479 oudinot
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Cannanites were a Semitic people related to the Jewish people.

"Gentiles'' refer to Christians.  There were not Christians till  Christ , obviously-about 1,200 years later than the period to which you are referring.

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