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Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:26 | 5032185 NOZZLE
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Get over it, God has given you your genetic lot in life and it aint never gonna change no matter how many tunnels you dig, rockets you launch or jews you kill.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:46 | 5032495 Colonel Klink
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Me thinks history is going to rhyme once again, for the 110th time.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 16:48 | 5034788 Jstanley011
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Maybe, except this time they got nukes.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:15 | 5035888 Colonel Klink
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Yeah, thanks to which traitorous shitbag in our goobermint?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:27 | 5032417 Toolshed
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"God has given you your genetic lot in life"

Spoken like a card carrying member of the Aryan race. Gosh I am glad I got my genetic material from Mother Goose instead of from your egomaniacal and yet supremely insecure "god".

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:26 | 5032183 MaxThrust
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King Faud of Saudi Arabia was once asked by President Roosevelt what he thought about the Jews having a home in Palestine. The king replied, " What the Nazi's did to the Jews was terrible but why give European Jews Arab land? Instead give them the best part of Germany.

Max

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:53 | 5032432 giovanni_f
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And so it happened.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:37 | 5032223 NOZZLE
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Mzx, why not give them a section of scrub desert, they made it into something better and embarrassed the arab filth in the process.

Superior genetics goyim, keep tossing them rocks, we are gonna be here long after you are long gone.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:09 | 5032352 Toolshed
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Idiot. Everything Israel has was either given to them or they took it at the point of a spear and got away with it because anyone who critisizes Israel is condemned as anti-semetic. I have absolutely nothing against the Jews. They are just another example of how defective humans are. We are all seriously screwed up. However, Israel, or I should say, Israel's leaders and their supporters, are the most cold hearted devious scum on this planet. Israel would not exist today without the USA's military and financial assistance. Try getting your revered people to refuse all international support and watch what happens. You sound just like a ghetto welfare queen.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 12:03 | 5032991 xavi1951
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Toolshed, your shed is empty.  Instead of name calling, try reading a few books on the subject and stop believing everything you read here.  Start with 'Because they Hate'.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:20 | 5032400 Canucklehead
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The IDF is just trying fix God's problems, one step at a time.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:10 | 5032116 Comte d'herblay
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A bet on Intrade that the american people--- at least those with some sentience----don't need to know anything more and don't give two shits about this milliennial tiff in the Middle East between Jews and Arabs, would make you a winner. 

 

That's all we need to know.  And if media would just turn away from it, shun the death and destruction, it would cease totally within a week. They are so addicted to being the subject of the international narrative, they would die of atrophy if the world let them alone for a month. 

The zeitgeist over there is so ingrained in media, they have whole departments dedicated to keeping the conflict alive and well.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:04 | 5032100 SurlysonofaBitch
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Why don't they simply change the name of this blog to Zero Jews. Your gold inestments have crashed and you're left with nothing but your anti-semitism. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:47 | 5032856 Sheikh_Speare
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I love this site and I love all people, jews, muslims, chirstians, buddhist.

This has nothing to do with religion or race.

Most of us post and reply on these comments because most humasn have a natural longing for the truth, and those smart enough have realized that the lamestream media ain't giving it to us.

Zerohedge challenges the mainstream views, and is giving us news and views not usually seen or accepted, basically banned from our media here in North America.

 

 

Edit: And since you're here attackng anyone that doesn't agree with you, with ad hominems, and making fun of the site's point of view.....you're openly trolling

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:51 | 5032912 MedTechEntrepreneur
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ZH is turning into Democracy Now, Chomsky, RT, Pravda and Al-Jizzira....all wrapped up in one.  Must have got a huge investment from Qatar......Strange times we are living in...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:03 | 5032594 Frostfan1
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You forgot all those survivalist goods day by day closer to expiration :)

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:11 | 5032366 Toolshed
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Typical Isreali cry baby bullshit. If you don't support our crimes, you are anti-semetic!!! Eat shit and die.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:03 | 5032076 Frostfan1
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Here's another fact that GW doesn't think Americans need to know.  The Palestinians broke the cease-fire firing rockets. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:34 | 5032215 alien-IQ
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because you pulled it out of your ass doesn't make it a fact, it makes it a piece of shit.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:33 | 5031975 Frostfan1
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I expect more GW articles about Israel since Hamas has done such a terrible job this time around.

So let's talk about what GW doesn't think Americans need to know about:

Hamas spending millions on tunnels for the sole purpose of killing and terrorizing Israelis.

Hamas allegedly using child labor to build the tunnels and the alleged 160 children deaths in the process

Hamas stealing food cards from citizens at Red Cross/Crescent lines to feed its soldiers.

Hamas executing 20 people for the alleged one demonstration against them so far.  I can expect GW to bring up Tel Aviv protests but not Gaza protests, especially ones where Hamas does what it does best, put fear into their own people.

Hamas booby-trapping houses to kill Israelis when they enter.  Don't worry, GW, I know you'll tell them how Israel wrecks the booby-trapped houses.  You just won't tell them why.

Hamas threatening journalists that take pictures of anyone dressed in Hamas uniform.

The silence from Egypt and Saudi Arabia against Israel this  time around. 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:36 | 5032796 Sheikh_Speare
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Frostfan1, seriously, can you refute any of the points laid out by the author GW?

Be honest with yourself, why would you want to defend the crap their doing?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 14:42 | 5034037 Frostfan1
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His articles are kinda narrow. 

Was the quality of life under Israeli or South African occupaton better for which, good question?  Better question, what would the life of Gazans had been like for the last ten years if Hamas had recognized Israel and accepted Gaza'a borders as they are?  Then what would their lives had been like.

The 44% calculation doesn't mean much.  No country uses all 100% of their land to live, work, etc.,

The true definition of anti-semitism? whatever....  I ended this discussion years ago with a friend of mine when he opened up his dictionary.  You may not like the definition but the book is the book.  I suppose it sounds better than anti-jew, anti-yid and that's what is used. 

As for calling anti-semites anti-zionists, oh boy, yes, you can be anti-zionist and not anti-semitic but my my how many times here at ZH or elsewhere have I heard someone say they're not and then slip into the all jews are this and all jews own that. 

 

Pat Buchanan for example gets called anti-semitic a lot but he's very quick to point to specific Israelis he has a problem with.  Many others however just lump in Israelis without a thought of what they really think.  Others lump in jews the same way. 

And my favorite is every finance issue is because of the jews as if only jews are in Finance.  No Protestants, no catholics, no lutherans, no Chinese.  Just jews.  Greece collapses, jews, Iceland collapses, jews,  Ireland blows up, jews.  China spends money like drunken sailors on houses, jews therefore all banking problems are because of jews.  Everyone free of responsibility except jews cuz it's their fault. 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:17 | 5032391 Toolshed
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If I was a rabble rousing moron like Frosfan0 I could make a similar list of how the Germans were just protecting themselves from the vile financial crimes they were subjected to at the hands of the Jew banksters. Wait a minute......that seems awful familiar. Wow, talk about dejavu...........

You idiots should shut up like Blankenfein did after he put his foot so far into his mouth it came out his ass.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:53 | 5032054 Setarcos
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So a shill from Tel Aviv, or are you just a doctrinaire Zionist from wherever?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:57 | 5032058 Frostfan1
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Am I supposed to get defensive about your silly accusation? I think it's pretty obvious to everyone here I am a Zionist. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:45 | 5032255 Bunghole
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Well then here's a heartfelt Fuck You!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 12:09 | 5032439 Colonel Klink
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And that's a heartfelt Fuck You, straight from the Bunghole!

Awww, looks like a couple cornholios need TP for their bunghole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqaKi9NTzS4

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:52 | 5032251 Setarcos
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Well at least you are honest.  That makes a refreshing change from many of your fellow ideologues.

BTW what is silly about making a basically accurate assumption about you,

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:42 | 5032240 Basilian
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Yes a talmudic zionist to be exact-. If the teenagers who's deaths no international groups ever investigated or confirmed the circumstances of were killed in the West Bank then why did Izzy in under 24 hours launch rockets into Gaza? Gaza is 70 miles away from the West Bank?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:42 | 5032239 Basilian
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Yes a talmudic zionist to be exact-. If the teenagers who's deaths no international groups ever investigated or confirmed the circumstances of were killed in the West Bank then why did Izzy in under 24 hours launch rockets into Gaza? Gaza is 70 miles away from the West Bank?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:21 | 5031943 Setarcos
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I think that the majority of Americans already get it GW, from Argentina to Canada.

It is Usans who do not get it, i.e. that relatively small number of people living in the homeland Empire which the land-owning oligarch, George Washington kicked off by killing native Indians, after winning the right to collect taxes on the peasants.

You patriotic Usans never cease to amaze me with your ingrained myths about the Declaration of Independence and the Constititution.

99% of the original 13 Colonies got duped into swapping one overlord for another - a George for a George.

History repeats.

People in Britain believe that Magna Carta proticts the masses, but it was a treaty signed between robber barons and King John about collecting taxes from the 99%.

The Founding Fathers were robber barons and so founded a Republic excluding everyone who did not own land - most men, all women and of course slaves,

Anyone who thinks that the FF were democrats and "for the people" is delusional.

The US we know today is the logical outcome of it's sociopathic founders and their successors.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:45 | 5032878 Milestones
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Just a suggestion: read Charles Beard's book"An economic iterpetion of the U.S. Constitution" printed in 1917.        Milestones

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:17 | 5032225 Setarcos
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I expected a red tide of downers from "true patriots", whomever, but the fact of the matter is that everyone on the Continent of America is an American, but only Usans implicitly claim hegemony over Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia and all the rest by usurping the title "American" from all others.

Tell me that I am wrong in saying that nearly all Usans, from the elite to the poorest, have been all for subjugating the rest of America for over two centuries, starting with the native population and soon the Spanish/Mexicans.

Tell me I am wrong that the Washington cabal has been at almost continual and internally popularl war since 1776, increasingly globally.  What an EXCEPTIONAL people, far eclipsing anything the London, Paris, Roman and all other empires ever did.  At least all previous empires built something, but this one just destroys and causes chaos, whilst Usan masses chant USA, USA even when locked down by the police state, such as after the highly dubious Boston bombing, never mind the blatant false flag 911 ... which our very own George Washington still believes was done by Osama bin Laden and 19 islamic non-pilots.

Oh and the non-state (without declared boundaries) called Israel has been described as "the unsinkable aircraft carrier" for the Washington Empire - a modern equivalent of Wild West forts, but obviously projecting Washington hegemony Eastwards.

Which is the dog and which is the tail?  Interesting that delegates of the fake state failed to show up during a latest round of Russia/Putin bashing at the UN by the Washington cabal, whoever really runs that.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:44 | 5032872 disgruntled hou...
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I would say that most of the Usans you speak of do not give a thought to subjagating anyone.  They happily believe the samitized history taught to them in the state controled schools.  I would agree that the Usans have not contributed much to the health of the planet- the continual wars do demolish both the physical and cultural environment.  I will agree that the tail is running the dog. 

Now will you agree if there is one God and he has a chosen people that he is still responsible for creating all others?  Will you agree that these others have no choice to whom they are born and that these others learn what they live?

If they learn what they live what do you think the children of Gaza are learning right now?  Do you think they may be internalizing that their is no safe place to go and violence is the only answer? 

At some point Israel must at least admit what a lopsided fight this is.  Palestinian children have rocks not state of the art weaponry.  Israel should at least provide sanctuary to the women, children, and even men who are not interested in perpetuating this hatred.  There must be some Palestinians who have managed to rise above the differences and just want to live a peaceful live and raise their family.

Or is the point of the war to continue to manufacture these hostilities.  Is the bombing of the U.N. facilities meant to create more terrorists and fan the flames of hatred.  Even a gentle dog will respond to violence with violence if backed in a corner.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:45 | 5032871 disgruntled hou...
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I would say that most of the Usans you speak of do not give a thought to subjagating anyone.  They happily believe the samitized history taught to them in the state controled schools.  I would agree that the Usans have not contributed much to the health of the planet- the continual wars do demolish both the physical and cultural environment.  I will agree that the tail is running the dog. 

Now will you agree if there is one God and he has a chosen people that he is still responsible for creating all others?  Will you agree that these others have no choice to whom they are born and that these others learn what they live?

If they learn what they live what do you think the children of Gaza are learning right now?  Do you think they may be internalizing that their is no safe place to go and violence is the only answer? 

At some point Israel must at least admit what a lopsided fight this is.  Palestinian children have rocks not state of the art weaponry.  Israel should at least provide sanctuary to the women, children, and even men who are not interested in perpetuating this hatred.  There must be some Palestinians who have managed to rise above the differences and just want to live a peaceful live and raise their family.

Or is the point of the war to continue to manufacture these hostilities.  Is the bombing of the U.N. facilities meant to create more terrorists and fan the flames of hatred.  Even a gentle dog will respond to violence with violence if backed in a corner.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:10 | 5032631 Frostfan1
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Yes you are wrong.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:16 | 5031922 danepol
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Hey Georgie-boy:-

Christians and Jews living together = NO PROBLEM

Christians and Buddhist living together = NO PROBLEM

Jews and Buddhist living togheter = NO PROBLEM

Christians and Hindus living together = NO PROBLEM

Jews and Hindus living together = NO PROBLEM

Christians, Jews, Hindus, Atheists living together = NO PROBLEM

Muslims and Christians living together = BIG PROBLEM

Muslims and Jews living together = BIG PROBLEM

Muslims and Hindus living together = BIG PROBLEM

Muslims and Buddhists living togheter = BIG PROBLEM

Muslims and Muslims living together = BIG PROBLEM

Do you see the problem or do I have to make a drawing.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:59 | 5032957 Sheikh_Speare
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Palestine - Pre 1948 :

Christians, Jews & Muslims living together pecefully as brothers and sisters. This had been the case for hundreds of years now.

 

Palestinians ACCEPT & WELCOMED jews from Europe, and gave them land as guests.

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:18 | 5033508 Frostfan1
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Which Palestinians gave jews land as guests? 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:21 | 5032709 George Washington
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Christians and Muslims living together in

(1) Iraq

(2) Syria

(3) Libya

(4) Etc

Were NO PROBLEM until the U.S. regime changed them for oi&gasl/Western central banking

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 13:19 | 5033520 Frostfan1
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Can we replace (4) Etc with Lebanon and include the civil war they had back in the 70s and 80s? 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 11:51 | 5032916 xavi1951
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Correct George, because the Leaders of those countries were "RADICAL" Muslims (radical muslims do NOT practice all the teachings of the Koran and tend to be more tollerant of other religions) and they seemed to protect other religions by putting the hurt on the regular PRACTICING Muslims (erroniously and commonly refered to as Radical).  Christians have still suffered in those countries regardless of who was in control but less under Assad, Kadafi and Sadam.  It is open season on Christians in those countries right now.  

I think at some point, the Civilized world will have to come to terms with the correct use of the term, RADICAL.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:21 | 5032404 Toolshed
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Yes, please make us a drawing so we can see if your art is as poor as your logic. Thanks.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:47 | 5032270 Basilian
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Funding Middle East offensive instability is a problem. Follow the money or lety me guess " these people have been doing this for ages" ---NO offensive action happens without funding and that is easy to find.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:48 | 5032269 Basilian
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Funding Middle East offensive instability is a problem. Follow the money or lety me guess " these people have been doing this for ages" ---NO offensive action happens without funding and that is easy to find.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:49 | 5032264 NOZZLE
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Danepol, expect a van load of skin heads in 1, 2, 3. . .

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e67WeVd8G44

 

And its the Battle Hym of the Republic, fucking morons.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:50 | 5032041 underbussen
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In my cosmoplotican European city we have Muslims, Jews, Christains, Roma, Atheists etc all living together - NO PROBLEMS. We do have a problem group but they are small and dying out - a very small but vocal group of overtly racists fucktards who mostly troll forums and blogs posting hateful bullshit.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:31 | 5032424 MedTechEntrepreneur
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I cant wait for the Islamic Hordes to turn against you dumbasses.  They are already planning it.  And you all are fixated on Jooooo's.  Here, give a listen...

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJM_fPlWFgI

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:49 | 5032036 Setarcos
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I think you shou;d clarify.

As I understand it the first half of your post refers to over a thousand years of relative peace and harmony, whereas the second half refers to post WW1, the Balfour Declaration, Sykes-Picot, the London/Paris Empires carve-up of the region, then finally the Washington Empire causing chaos these last 30-40 years.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:11 | 5031911 danepol
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George Washington, here's something that even a little bigot may understand

 

Hamas has understood what the ideology of terror has clearly espoused for over a hundred years. When attacking a democracy, the terrorist has to put it in a quandary. The way to do that is to force the democracy to kill civilians. So if you set up your terror-base under a school or a hospital, you’ve got it made in the shade. You launch missiles, for example, against Israel. Now the Israelis have a choice. Either they don’t respond, in which case the terror mounts in the face of ongoing impotence, or they do respond, in which case you’re going to have civilian deaths and dramatic pictures for the West’s nightly news.

 

Basically, the Western media has taught Hamas that it doesn’t matter how downright evil you are. It doesn’t matter if you launch two thousand missiles at civilian targets, including the airport. It doesn’t matter if you use your own children as human shields. You’ll get the coverage you want if CNN, BBC et al. have props to point their cameras at.Our form of news-gathering has taught Hamas to turn their children into those props, and to sacrifice them on the altar of Jihad. By misreporting, our media has encouraged the bad guys to kill their own children, and has dragged Israel into a war it did not want.

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