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"Scorched Earth": How Israel Converted 40% Of Gaza Into A Wasteland Of Rubble
Moments ago, after weeks of relentless humiliation for John Kerry, Israel and Hamas agreed to yet another 72 hour ceasefire - one which if the previous "ceasefires" are any indication, will be broken within hours if not minutes. Regardless, Kerry, who cobbled this agreement after much "hard work" alongside the UN's Ban Ki-moon, was ecstatic: "We urge all parties to act with restraint until this humanitarian ceasefire begins, and to fully abide by their commitments during the ceasefire," Kerry and Ban said. "This ceasefire is critical to giving innocent civilians a much-needed reprieve from violence."
What Kerry did not say is that the ceasefire is merely an extended occupation by the IDF: as Reuters reported, the ceasefire statement said "forces on the ground will remain in place" during the truce, implying that Israeli ground forces will not withdraw. Which also assures that it is only a matter of time before yet another stray rocket is launched into Israeli fields, before the IDF retaliates by blowing up another school or hospital allegedly housing Hamas rockets, and so on.
However, while this too ceasefire will come and go, something far more insidious is taking place in Gaza : as the Daily Beast reports, "The Israeli military, relentlessly and methodically, is driving people out of the 3-kilometer (1.8 mile) buffer zone it says it needs to protect against Hamas rockets and tunnels. According to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, the buffer zone eats up about 44 percent of Gaza’s territory."
To be sure, Israel has been quite clear about its intentions and has given Gazans plenty of advance notice:
It’s not like Israel didn’t plan this. It told tens of thousands of Palestinians to flee so its air force, artillery and tanks could create this uninhabitable no-man’s land of half-standing, burned-out buildings, broken concrete and twisted metal. During a brief humanitarian ceasefire some Gazans were able to come back to get their first glimpse of the destruction this war has brought to their communities, and to sift through their demolished homes to gather clothes or other scattered bits of their past lives. But many were not even able to do that.
They will have a chance to do so again for the next three days, or whenever the ceasefire is broken again which will come first.
In the meantime, constant shelling and bombing have converted nearly half of Gaza into a inhospitable wasteland:
What that means on the ground is scenes of extraordinary devastation in places like the Al Shajaya district approaching Gaza’s eastern frontier, and Beit Hanoun in the north. These were crowded neighborhoods less than three weeks ago. Now they have been literally depopulated, the residents joining more than 160,000 internally displaced people in refuges and makeshift shelters. Apartment blocks are fields of rubble, and as I move through this hostile landscape the phrase that keeps ringing in my head is “scorched earth.”
The author of the original article reflects on a world that may as well have emerged from a TS Eliot poem:
In Beit Hanoun the systematic destruction mirrors Al Shajaya. I walk past old men and teenagers trying to lift cinderblocks and slabs of stucco with their bare hands, sometimes in search of a mattress and other times in search of a relative.
The desert of demolition only becomes more vast as I get closer to the Israeli border. Individually razed homes and stores give way to gray and white plains of obliterated walls with hills of contorted iron bars and broken-up slabs. Here the bodies are hidden under the new landscape and it will take more than a brief pause in fighting to unearth the gruesome extent of the town’s suffering.
“Scorched earth,” historically, means destroying land to deprive the encroaching enemy of its use. Israelis shy away from using the phrase to describe what they are doing because, in Israel, it brings to mind the strategy of the Nazi retreat from Russia at the end of the Second World War.
For Israel, there is a perverse strategy in leveling everything in their path: the practice of systematically flattening neighborhoods is focused on saving the lives of Israeli soldiers, who might otherwise be more exposed to hit-and-run attacks. "Israel is more sensitive than any other country in the West to the death of its soldiers," says Hebrew University political scientist Yaron Ezrahi "The death of [Palestinian] civilians is a moral crisis but is without political impact."
Precisely. And yet the ordinary [Palestinian] civilians, those who have never fired a gun in their lives, lives which sadly have zero "political impact" this is a tragedy beyond words:
When Rania Haels got within 60 feet of the debris that was once her family home in Al Shajaya on Saturday, a machine-gun on top of a nearby Israeli Merkava tank started firing. Probably these were warning shots pumped in her direction, but the 42-year-old mother of seven ran for her life. Now she stays with her family in an overcrowded parking garage in Gaza City and spends her days sitting in a public park full of refugees displaced by the Israeli push.
“We lost our homes and so now we live in the streets,” said Haels, holding a toddler in her arms who clings to her pastel-patterned hejab. “This war has destroyed me.” She says at least she knew where her home was. Some of her neighbors could not find their homes as they walked down streets made unrecognizable by the wreckage and horrifying by the presence of death.
Rashid al Delo and his 11 children were, like Haels, blocked by Israeli machine-gun fire when they tried to return to their home near the bombed-out Wafa Hospital in Al Shajaya. But despite the dire reality, al Delo, who used to work in Israel but has been unemployed these last 15 years, is determined to salvage his life.
At least they are not dead. However, with every passing day the probability of their survival declines. What is most tragic, however, is that regardless of who is to blame for the ongoing war which is merely the culmination of a middle-east conflict that has continued for thousands of years and whose origins are lost in the sands of time, the international community, so vocal when it comes to the pretense of humanitarian intervention in any other part of the world, is so remarkably incapable to do anything for the ordinary Palestinians who face not only the obliteration of their homes but systematic eradication. All the while the world screams but does nothing.
Why? So that a few rich men can promote their military interests and get even richer: a reason as old as the world itself.
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Drive those motherfucking Palestinians to the sea just like they have been threatening to do to Israel from the get go. Then turn around.....have a press conference and dare any other motherfucking Muzzie country to step up and get a piece of that too.
genocide. war crimes. why?
They're "chosen". That's why. The only war crimes are those committed against them.
The IsraeloNazis run Gaza like the Warsaw Ghetto. For those saying blah blah blah about Palis violating cease fires and firing rockets etc, I do recall that the Jews are constantly stealing land and building illegal settlements. IF that is not constant aggression I dont know what is. WHo can blame the Palis for fighting back. Since day one when they set food in the middle east the Jews have been stealing land everyday, that is why the Arabs attack, and its justified in my opinion.
Isn't it obvious by the pictures that secondary explosions are causing all the damage?
No.
It ain't.
Swing and a miss, cunt.
A Jew, a Catholic, and a Muslim walk into a bar. Bartender says "what will you have." The place explodes.
Strangely, today all the HAsbara Zionazis have descended onto ZH. What gives? New orders from the the disinformation general?
ZH must have recently been pinned onto their target board.
There goes the neighbourhood
Yawn...
Who cares...
The more they kill each other, the less wasted oxygen and oil for me!
Sure. Except, the zionazis will really lower the standards of the comments on this site. I've already read all their copy/paste comments and arguments from all the israelis and their uncles hasbara accounts. At least if they used some logic in their defence of genocide instead of the old copy and paste.
I'd love to be an internet provider in Israel right about now.
Here's an idea, lets ban every religion on the planet... All dogma, all mythology, all sectarian differences and just get along... Oh wait!!!
True story, a buddy of mine, his parents quite a few years back agreed to let their Jewish neigbour plant some vegetables in a three foot wide unused strip of land that ran for about 80 yards between their properties in Brentwood CA, the Jewish dude promised he would give them some of the vegetables. Anyways after a few months my friend's dad changed his mind after reading some stories about squaters etc and asked the guy to remove the plants, the dude took him to court and tried to take away that piece of land saying he had been using it for a long time. Guess taking away land runs in the genes. Anyways the guy didnt win in court. But just goes to show you. In Palestine they dont ask, they come in with tanks bulldoze your house and your olive groves and take it by force because they claim that they have this book written by them that says they used this land a looong time ago lol.
Crooks are crooks.
I think I will write my own book where I will claim my family 10K years ago lived in Palestine and I am entitled to all the land and resources down there. Seems like the fashionable thing to do.
So, um, why will the ceasefire come and go? Is it because Israel violates it first? For the idiots out there, it's because Hamas will violate it, and you know it.
Oh, and please show me on a map where Palestine ever was. Geez, you guys are bizarre. From what rock did you crawl out under? Shiite, I'm not even jewish and you guys look like idiots.
Israel runs an aparethied camp in Gaza. I would never honour an agreement with those parasites.
So, if Israelis are so bad, why don't you go do business with the Palis? Mabe you can import bomber vests and tunnel machines.
#popcorn
#trainwreck
Its hard to do business with Palestinians, since Israel denies their changes to travel & manufacture
Hey maggot, Israel has a blockade on the Gaza strip. Nothing gets in or out without going through Israel first. Based on their humanitarian bombing of civilians, water and electric infrastructure, and their previous withholding of food to the calorie, and their previous killing of flotillas trying to deliver basic supplies... I guess we can guess how the ability to manufacture and trade has played out.
One more thing, now that the citizens have been forced into a densely packed area without basic infrastructure or food, you can bet that disease, lack of water and starvation will kill many more.
I see no difference between the Zionists and the Nazis.
That the best you can do?
Even Israelis admit that the term Palestine goes back into ancient times:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/palname.html
"A derivitave of the name "Palestine" first appears in Greek literature in the 5th Century BCE when the historian Herodotus called the area "Palaistin?" (Greek - ??????????)."
might want to rethink your position on that.
The WORLD gave this little piece of land to the Jews.
A MUSLIM country moves in and expects respect.
NO
MOVE OR DIE.
They stole it from the British while the UN (Folke Bernadotte) were deciding how to partition it. Bernadotte was assassinated for his efforts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte#Assassination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Palestine
The rag heads were there for 600 years until the Jews tried to take back what they'd effectively abandoned for Europe. They're a terrorist state and should be treated like North Korea.
Aren't there "PROTOCALS" for this sort of thing...
Get into the oven you little genocidal nut, and take your family too, since they must be guilty as well.
I prefer calling it the land of Caanan its first known name. I say free jon corizine and give the land back to the caananites.
Frankly it does not matter who owns the land, judging from the comments on this thread alone, men love to hate and kill one another.
Cannan was its original name.
Hyksos (Hebrews) were the rulers of Egypt for about 200 years. Eventually, the working revolted against their lying, cheating, taxing and they were run out of Egypt (exiled, as they have been many times since). They went to Cannan, took it over and called it Isis-AmenRa-Elohim (Israel).
Palestine is the name given to it by the Romans as a Romantacized version of Philistine, after the Romans conquered Israel. The Hyksos mentality at that point was know as Pharisee.
Now you know...
Hasbara much?
Here's what a former Israeli soldier said about his time in the army - testing weapons on Palestinians for sale on the open market:
http://www.sott.net/article/282780-An-Israeli-soldiers-realization-that-...
In that video he also says this:
"You remember these guys, the young guys who threw stones at the beginning of the protests? They were not Palestinians. They were actually an undercover unit of the Israeli army, looking like me, Arab-Jews, disguised as Palestinians inside these villages starting a riot, starting something, so that the Israeli army will have a good excuse to start shooting the place up and testing the weapons!"
And this, on the creation of Hamas - by Mossad:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/11/israel-and-the-u-s-created-hamas-...
I'll stick to facts, please. You just go ahead and stick to hyperbole.
By deception so shall you wage war ... or something like that.
Then there's this to look forward to
http://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2014/jul/31/brain-act...
They're always building a better mouse trap.
They both sound like morons.
The legal term is adverse possession & it takes a lot more than a few months to establish it. The owner should have taken the vegetables at the end of the season & let it be known that the neighbor wouldn't have the same privileges next season. The gardener may have put in a lot of time & expense after given permission to grow the garden. The Gardner is a moron if he thinks he will pay less in attorney's fees than the vegetables are worth.
As for you making judgements about an entire group of people based on one stupid incident ? Well that speaks for itself.
Well the guy was lying by saying he was using the land for longer than he was in his attempt to stake claim to the land which is why he was surreptitiously using the little vegetable garden as an idea. Obviously he didnt succeed but the ill intent was obviously there. Land is very expensive in brentwood california, that nice little three foot by 80 yard addition would of looked good for his property. I was just drawing parallels between what is going on in Palestine and a little neighborhood drama. And how a shyster thought he could take advantage of an elderly asian couple. You dont live in brentwood if you are a gardener for a living lol
Well he was lucky the case didn't come up before a Jewish judge. Like Zuckerberg when he got away with his ripoff.
I'm going to claim parts of Manhattan showing the court writing on a hunk of birchbark that says, "Fuk U, we aren't selling this land for no colored beads and a couple of moth eaten blankets." Should be good if the Joos can say the land is theirs.
"But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken."
Best comment on here.
if they can't control a forum, another option is to destroy it with garbage...
the comments on RT are absolutely mental. Sometimes it's impossible to read because of the copy/paste spam.
[as always, no offense intended to normal, decent mentals]
Did you see that payrolls are up?
hate = page views and consider the demographic; remember the porn/perversion stage?
pretty sure ZH will be available in hell
LOL What are you even talking about?
Remember to stick to the "Global Language Dictionary" young hasbara.
you cant discern a marked change in the tone and subject matter/advocacy of ZH articles recently? how about the posters? guys on here 8-12 hours a day spewing hate. there must be about a total of 3 or 4 people left who still trade or care about markets. never thought I would see the day when ZH has less cred than cnbc
Well, we've been 100 percent wrong about the markets in these here parts partner! So "zionazi's it is!"
I must say that after reading your posts for quite some time now I truly am impressed in the breakdown/rebuild brainwashing abilities the US armed forces uses on their recruits.
You claim you are disabled, certainly fighting an illegitimate war, and are watching your leaders support terrorists, tyrants, and genocide while your country crumbles and yet here you are still defending the very system and powers that be who have led to your physical demise, the loss of the honour that would be normally attributed to soldiers of a more honourable country, and the theft and betrayal of your fellow countrymen and all those countrymen before them.
Spewing hate? Is that what you call facts and data?
yes, con men hate facts and data
I noticed that. Lots of down-votes but not a great deal of comments. I'm guessing there are a lot of "non-English" speaking people obediently down voting what they are told to down-vote from a cozy AC'd room in Tel Aviv University.
Pretty idiotic.
You fucking guys pretend this is a secret or that you can just deny it exists. Fucking pathetic.
Students offered grants if they tweet pro-Israeli propaganda
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/students-offered-gra...
Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-20...
Israeli Government Paying Jewish Fundamentalist Students to Post Facebook Gaza War Propaganda
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article46592.html
Hasbara spam alert
With Israel's foreign ministry organising volunteers to flood news websites with pro-Israeli comments, Propaganda 2.0 is here
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/jan/09/israel-foreign-mini...
And in the US it is the other way around, we pay our government to use propaganda against us.
Eh where do you think that money paying the Israeli students comes from. Our tax money here in the USA, that is where.
I mean it's idiotic for the hasbaras to troll here. Propaganda might work on sheeple on FB but not here.
My mistake then. But I'm glad it prompted me to link those articles. Soooo, thanks for that.
News flash - Not all Libertarians are Jew haters. Speak for yourself!
Islam+ Judiasm = Death
I'd argue that Neocon Christians + Zionists = Terror + War + Bank_profits
The camel-raping towelhead was carrying the bomb.
No, the IDF hit it with shellfire, by mistake - they thought it was a UN refuge.
LTER,
A priest, a minister, and a rabbi walk into a bar, and the bartender says, what is this, a joke ?
Why does Israel want to make everyone hate Jews?
That is literally the only thing they are accomplishing with this campaign. Well that and turning quite literally every Palestinian into a partisan fighter.
They obviously do not care about world opinion and continue their extermination in Gaza, while at the same time the US supports much the same in Ukraine, Syria and Iraq... TPTB are on a timetable and it looks like Act II is about to kick off with the volume and degree of crisis around the world...
I support Israel but not the current situation. I am all for them defending themselves but it is a pretty disproportionate response. BTW I hate war and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
I really wish the Palestinians would just assimilate into the Israeli society, that would be the best for everyone's safety and security.
Do you really think those crowds of drunk and partying Israelis (of all ages) dancing in the streets a few days ago singing "all the children in Gaza are dead" will have Palestinians assimilate?
Nice lie. Do you do that often?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/gaza-is-a-graveyard-theres-no-school-tomorr...
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/gaza-graveyard-sing-joy...
Or is this a Palestinian made propaganda video?
Well done, Tungsten
I am just saying why dont we all lay down our arms and give peace a chance. Most conquered peoples can flee fight or eventually assimilate. Is any land worth your life? Hell in AMerica we pretend we own land but the gov takes it if we dont pay our taxes. Where are the american freedom fighters?
Give peace a chance. Sure, ok, no problem. I will give peace a chance. Except for one thing:
They keep stealing my money and giving it to Israel, and they keep spying on me and giving the data to Israel.
So it looks I'm not really the problem. I already am peaceful.
And if you think that the Israelis want you, me or anyone else to "assimilate" into their world then it looks like you need to do some reading. Fast.
Okay Cliffie...
since you obviously are grossly naive, I will give you Coles version of Isaeli policy when it comes to a "one state" solution, or in your words, assimilation.
Israhel will never EVER allow a one state solution - at least not a democratic one where all are equal - as it would mean the joos would very quickly be outnumbered by the lowly Palestinians and once that happens, there goes the jooish state and all it's "privileges" (like bombing the shit outta sand monkeys and stealing their land).
Hope that clears things up for ya
"I am all for them defending themselves but it is a pretty disproportionate response."
They're an occupying force (taking land and rights aways from others) and they're "defending" themselves? Wrong universe...
It's not like the Israeli's couldn't expand the expand the buffer zone in the other direction, if that actually was their concern... These genocidal maniacs and their supporters need to be stopped and punished. Forced labor rebuilding that which they have destroyed and loss of territory would an appropriate punishment based on the precedent of the Yalta conference.
Great question. My family which has catholics, jews, muslims and athiests were just having this discussion today. Isn't the answer that governments, all governments, even governments that claim they are special and cloaked with special religious, historical, victimizing identifiers, could give a shit about their citizens in the end and that all leaders and all power gets hungry and corrupt. Just like our beautiful US of A, militarization and enemy creation is a double win for the fascists fuckers who run the military industrial complex and the fascists fuckers who want to remove as many common common man rights through fear, wars on terror, never ending conflicts, bogiemans etc. Mankind is truly a son of a bitch at times.
this coming from a duck...go figgure
Your tribe seems to know an awful lot about "secondary explosions". I guess it's just practice huh?
Lots of secondary explosions on USS Liberty, another IsraeloNazi false flag just like secondary explosions in the Malaysian airliner over east ukraine that coincided with their Gaza genocide.
Well its like Hillary said it is hard for Hamas to hide their weapons in such a densely populated place. They don't really have a choice but to put those rockets in schools and such. Tough being a freedom fighter now a days, hard to catch a break.
Time will come when Israel wont be able to get ammunition replenished by the USA. Case and point their economy couldn't sustain an offensive without running out of ammunition in a few days. Some day payback will be a bitch when the Israelis will be in a ghetto in Tel Aviv surrounded by Arabs blowing up Jewish tunnels.
http://rt.com/usa/176820-pentagon-idf-unrwa-ammunition/
Sure Cheers Queer, watch and refute accordingly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMniFQCyqTg
Loved it. Thanks Jews. Got anymore good vids?
Yeah Clit I do but the one with your yenta momma/bubela and the DONKEY was inapproprite so Mongo doesn't want to go there!
LOL
I appreciate your passion and all others on both sides but I dont understand the name calling in anger. It just distracts from any arguement, legitimate or not. I find saracasm helps to drive home a point more than hatred.
Well Clit it seems that you yourself just may be an passionate hasbara fellow and that is a good kosher thing, but you and your ilk are running out of time and the world sees it .....So hope that helps you sleep well tonite with visions of genocide running through your psychopathic inbred mind...... sweet dreams hasbara!
BTW hope this helps you sleep!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/chilling-images-show-how-israeli...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas
Actually, Cliffy, more damage is done by half-baked, fanatical morons than anything else. Check out...
"Who's afraid of a map? Palestine bus ads spark debate in Vancouver"
http://rabble.ca/news/2013/09/whos-afraid-map-palestine-bus-ads-spark-debate-vancouver
The damn Sayanim are everywhere, like dandelions -- but less useful.
I don't give a crap about Gaza. I am only ashamed that America played a role in giving it to Jews who have hijacked America and run it like a giant brothel/casino.
It adds credence to the reason that jews have been 'persecuted' over the ages... This is not their first rodeo and have had their hands in everything for profit and control for centuries...
http://www.rense.com/general88/hist.htm
Look at a map of Israel, find Gaza.
What the flip is it doing there? A small strip of land up against the Mediterranean Sea.
If I were going to plan a way to ensure never-ending conflict, death, destruction, and arms sales - I'd leave a little strip like that while plunking the Jews right in the thick of the Middle East where there are holy sites for all major religions.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gaza+Strip/
It goes back to the Ottoman Empire and even further, the Gush Katif was abandoned (Jews were evicted from it by their own government) in order to "try" for peace.
But to your point, why didn't Egypt offer Palestinians its citizenship when they controlled it? They could have but didn't.
Furthermore, why is it a goal to destroy and/or build on...destroyed temples, churches, shrines etc. wherever these assholes show up?
I'm speaking of radical Islamists, like Hamas aka...the Muslim Brotherhood.
Why didn't Germany, Poland, Austria and the other central European countries offer Jews citizenship in 1945?
Because they were already citizens and could legally return to their homes?
There was NO NEED for Ashkenazi Jews to immigrate to Palestine after the war. They were NOT refugees. No one was chasing them out of Europe like the Israelis chase the Palestinians from their ancestral homes.
Many non-Jews had no homes to return to after the war either. They rebuilt their homes as did many Jews. Everyone suffered because of the war.
And now the Israelis make war again.
And why should Egypt offer the Palestinians citizenship? Oh, that's right, cuz it's us (Jews) or them (everyone else). After all, we Jews offer other Jews citizenship of their (stolen) property... so it's up to those goy to offer other goy citizneship when we dispossess them.
For a 'christian' nmewn, you sure do have a lot of zionist personality traits.
Thank you for repeating your southern bapist/pentecostal preachers sermon.Do you do it to expedite second coming or as a side job for Mossad?
Ask the British. The answer to your question is the same as why they created Kahsmir, and all these other little pockets people squabble over. Divide and conquer baby.
The warmongering drunkard known a W. S. Churchill had a huge hand in making Israel possible. He needed money and was bought off by .................
And just watch the video today of the destruction to have War-saw Ghetto re-defined.
Folke Bernadotte was proposing a plan that would have partitioned the British Mandate of Palestine along north/south lines split at Jerusalem in an attempt to create to sustainable cohesive states. The Jews did not like this and assassinated him.
"regardless of who is to blame for the ongoing war....."
When I read this I realized the writer of this piece doesn't really care who caused this current war, therefore doesn't care a whit about the deaths or sufferings of the innocents on both sides.
What a despicable attitude.
The Jews ran the death camps dude. Move along....
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If Hamas wanted peace, they would have it that very day. They don't want peace they want to kill Jews. Israel would be happy to give them their own state, but Hamas's only objective would be to use it to kill Jews.
and your telling us the government of israel wants a piece of this peace?. No, like their sweet daddy, the USofA, they want war so they can to continue to take someone elses resources and keep their citizens under fear and control. Get a clue
The Gaza Strip is part of the Promised Land. As long as they stay faithful, Israel can do whatever they want with absolute immunity from above.
Dumbest.Comment.Ever. You're a shameless pimp for fairy tale immunity. Your joo confetti is REAL too... Due to "faith."
And to think I'm not even Jewish.
Who cares if you're Jewish. "As long as they remain "faithful" immunity shall be granted" or some shit.
Edit: LOL
Paraphrasing the Bible threatens you?
No, you threaten humanity. Add a couple deviations to your IQ and you'd be running a Spanish Inquisition part dos.
- Immunity based on religion. Apparently, there are people on this planet who may do whatever they want, due to religious immunity.
This IS what you are saying. You do understand this, I hope.
And in this particular "chosen people" example, I know you believe it.
I admire your dedication but ultimately it'll be people like you that need to go. I don't mean that in any religiously justified extermination sorta way like you may condone... I mean that in a "your herd is thinning" and that's great for the rest of humanity sorta way. U feed the beast.
No, that's absolutely not what I said or what the Bible says. Try again.
I wasn't quoting the Bible. I was quoting you. But ok, let's start over.
I'll submit Exhibit A...
"The Gaza Strip is part of the Promised Land. As long as they stay faithful, Israel can do whatever they want with absolute immunity from above."
Now check the Bible Leviticus 26:3, 7-8. I'll wait here.
Thanks for waiting.
So it was a biblical reference after all and not just your concept. Common sense told me no way you could come up with it alone. So then why deny it? I don't get this denial confirmation admittance exercise.
Never mind. And regardless, we can now both agree that you believe this bullshit. And since that was my point, we can move on.
From my perspective, the best thing the rest of us have going is that you're no leader. What say you?
I have no interest in leading.
The immunity is based on obedience.
Wouldn't matter if you did. It's ability, not desire. Plus the entire product is losing appeal. These are good things is all I'm saying.
Your unquestionable devotion contributes to the loss of appeal.
Maybe cuz it typically results in the rich getting richer and the little guy taking it up the ass for the promise of a more secure afterlife.
It's a tough sell these days. And an impossible sell for you.
I'm not selling either.
Prove it. No one here believes you. Even the hasbras are laughing.
I could care less what people here think. Your electrons on a computer.
"I could care less what people here think. Your electrons on a computer." Then go away looser.
You first.
But you sure like to give them head.
If someone was sending bombs and rockets over our borders, bombing our cities, you don't think we would do worse?
Well if we were using our troops to steal their land I would say they are justified to send bombs and rockets. Look the Jews in Palestine steal land day in and day out by pushing Arabs off their land, that is why the Arabs attack. How many times has UN condemned Jews building illegal settlements, but the Jews still do under protection of their troops and tanks.
"We will expel the Arabs and take their place. In each attack a decisive blow should be struck resulting in the destruction of homes and the expulsion of the population."
-David Ben Gurion 1937
Palis are not Arabs. If Arabs were attacking Israel, where are they?
You are today's retard award winner. No offense to your fellow retards intended.
Palis are not Arabs. If Arabs were attacking Israel, where are they?
Assuming 'palis' is short for Palestinians... you truly are a moron. What do you think the Palestinians are? An unusually tanned groupf of lost Inuit?
same old tired lies. you left out the part where israel murdered the inhabitants and stole the land, occupied and put the rest under blockade...
ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST!!!!!11
Too bad Jews deny everyone else's right to exist and demand immigration and integration everywhere except Israel. I'm afraid their fate is earned and sealed.
And here I thought the caps, bold, and 1's would imply sarcasm.
Not at everybody else's expense. That credit card is maxed out.
IN HELL.
Israel has a right to exist ???????????????
but a murdering government deceiving and endangering its own citizens does not and the jews need to quickly fix their government for their own survival. There is no military solution. That is assinine, about as assinine as the USA thinking it can quickly and cheaply control Iraq.
THe palestinians would very much not want to rely on hamas if they did not feel so attacked and deceived and endangered by the far superior military and imperial power surrounding them with barbed wire and bombs.
but a murdering government deceiving and endangering its own citizens does not and the jews need to quickly fix their government for their own survival. There is no military solution. That is assinine, about as assinine as the USA thinking it can quickly and cheaply control Iraq.
'There is no military solution' - sure there is. The Israelis will just keep killing the Palestinians until they leave. They've been doing this shit for almost 70 years and getting away with it, principally because the US has been hijacked by these fuckers. Does the US look any lees Israel's bitch than it did 40 years ago? To me it looks like they're gaining ground, if anything. Just look at them, the dedication they have to fulfilling their desire to have every scrap of Palestinian land. Their mouthpieces infest our media and capitols. The Muslims are too undereducated and prone to Sunni/Shiit division, and the goy are asleep watching TV or worrying about climate change or even how they're going to make rent this month.
We're fighting the good fight but it is definitely a rearguard action. The Palestinians are pretty much done unless the US collapses in the next few years. And even then Israel has nukes and has promised to use them on Europe if Israel is allowed to fall.
@Slave: "Israel has a right to exist!!!"
Another false argument. The question isn't whether a "State of Israel" has a "right" to exist, but WHAT KIND of Israel has a right to exist. Many Israeli Jews -- even its well-know heroes and its Orthodox Jews -- argue that it is not a Zionist state that has this right. Rather, moderate Israelis want a "Democractic State of Israel", not the fascist, apartheid Zio-State of Israel that has hijacked the government there and here in the US.
E.g. See ... Miko Peled (The General's Son) in "An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ
And then see the UN Resolution 3103 of 1973 (BASIC PRINCIPLES OF THE LEGAL STATUS OF THE COMBATANTS STRUGGLING AGAINST COLONIAL AND ALIEN DOMINATION AND RACIST REGIMES), with link provided here:
http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/28/ares28.htm
http://daccess-ods.un.org/TMP/6325998.30627441.html
no they don't, it was stolen land in a modern world.
Ya creep, they don't deserve one square inch.
Here's another cunt hasbara troll, with the same cunt tactic, of acting like the whole mess got started with rockets that have killed 3 people, and not the multiple airstrikes, mass arrests, and home demolitions.
http://scotthorton.org/interviews/2014/07/08/070814-max-blumenthal/
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/07/08/who-started-the-cycle-of-v...
Now, if you were a legit commentator, instead of a cunt, you'd know the origin of the recent violence which began quite recently. But as a cunt, you just want to troll the "defending itself from rockets" narrative.
Well, white phosphorus and DIME and DU munitions aren't to stop rockets.
Neither are anti-personnel shells used in crowded civilian areas.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-...
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/07/israel-again-and-again-shells-refug...
As for ulterior motives for this pretext - take your pick - but how about Greater Israel and Gas?
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jul/09/israel-...
http://www.voltairenet.org/article184806.html]
http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more.php?id=A2298_0_1_0_M
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Time for the US to cut bait with the Zionazi State
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-m-walt/aipac-americas-israel-polic...
http://www.examiner.com/article/confused-about-hamas-rockets-war-gaza-vi...
yah....the question, who should really own this property? who knows.
What I despise is the logic that says because Israel is surrounded by haters, they shouldn't be there.
This is absurd logic and it is the way gangs, big or small, slowly take over territory. If there was a movie with a nice family trying to hold their ground in East LA in spite of threats we would make hero's out of them and give them some stupid award.
Should the Jews have moved there? don't know...but they did, they're there, and at least in this country, we don't believe in deposing of a people just because of their religious beliefs.
yah....the question, who should really own this property? who knows.
I guess if you're a Palestinian you know your ancestors were forced to flee from the land their people had been living on for scores of generations. So they know. And 15 minutes of research would be all it took for you to get up to speed as well.
What I despise is the logic that says because Israel is surrounded by haters, they shouldn't be there.
No, Israel is surrounded by hater because it is there
This is absurd logic and it is the way gangs, big or small, slowly take over territory. If there was a movie with a nice family trying to hold their ground in East LA in spite of threats we would make hero's out of them and give them some stupid award.
Nice analogy, if you're equating the Zionists with a territory-seizing criminal gang, and the Palestinians 'trying to hold their ground... in spite of threats we would make hero's out of them and give them some stupid award.'
Should the Jews have moved there? don't know...but they did, they're there, and at least in this country, we don't believe in deposing of a people just because of their religious beliefs.
No, but we believe in throwing home invaders out of people's homes.
Hell, we do WORSE without anyone doing a fucking thing within our landmass. And This is exactly why the shit over there continues: because fuck-heads failed to listen to our founders telling us to NOT engage in foreign entanglements!
Thanks for saying that Morty. I am running into the "Isreal are defending themselves" people lately and I hate it.
Well if they are chosen, I think they should sue teh guy who wrote the torah and God, because with what they got last XXth, I mean they should sue the bastard.
They have small penis
Confucius say, man with small penis try to destroy world.
If I had a nose bigger than muhdik, I'd be pissed too.
You mean the Palestinians and the Muzzies....right? When's the last time an Israeli citizen blew up a bus full of Palestinians? When's the last time Israeli's killed other Israeli's because they didn't belong to the "correct" sect of Judaism ?
The world doesn't care about Muslims. They KNOW that they are a diseased people who are part of a blood cult. Pounding Gaza to rubble is the correct course of action against these people. Time and Time again the Israeli's have put their hand out and had it shot at.....much less slapped away. ENOUGH of these little bastards and their blood cult god.
Pound them into the dirt and come back and pound the rest of it if they do not learn this lesson for good.
And if they complain of their women and children getting killed......tough. Fuck 'em. Stop using your citizens as human shields and for the P.R. That's the character of the typical Muzzie male. Well.....guess what Sahib......we don't give a shit any more. We don't care about the bad press anymore. We see a terrorist we kill a terrorist. We see your missile site in a school or a mosque or a hospital we blow it up no matter who is inside.
This shit ends now.
You're a fucking clown and total wingnut. Do yourself and everyone else here a favor and go jump off a tall building.
Shit ends? No no. Shit is just about to hit the fan.
>>this shit ends
but not the way you think it will...
When's the last time an Israeli citizen blew up a bus full of Palestinians?
Probably yesterday.
When's the last time Israeli's killed other Israeli's because they didn't belong to the "correct" sect of Judaism ?
Actually heretics are detained without trial and killed sometimes and so forth. Not to the same extent as in Arab tribalism. But still.
Side note, the nature of Jewish cultures cultivated based on the Talmud has some explanatory power with respect to why supposedly secular Jews tend to run PR campaigns like: "We're treating the goyim in our hospitals. See how we're treating them!"* Perhaps people don't escape the ways in which their cultures have been cultivated based on the written word and ancient texts as easily as declaring: "Well, now I am an atheist!"
*Just be caerful that no one monetizes your organs, given that you're not worth a Jewish fingernail just like the Arab goyim on some rabbinic accounts. You think I'm kiddnig? Some would probably trade you a fingernail for a kidney in their organ trafficknig markets, etc.
They KNOW that they are a diseased people who are part of a blood cult.
Why are you taking sides? You get to choose, the rabbis that cut off part of the penis of males and suck on it giving them herpes or the Islamic clerics mutilating women, etc.
Oh, that's right. You've probably been incorporated in a blood cult yourself. But you're too dumb to look down and see it.
Is it time for you to wave your false "Made in China" flag yet? Seriously.
So, bad guys hide among good guys, and this somehow justifies murder? Interesting.
When's the last time Israeli's killed other Israeli's because they didn't belong to the "correct" sect of Judaism
Substitute Israel for Jews; WWII.
You know that Israel had a major role in creating Hamas ?
You know that the US had a major role in creating Al Qaeda & allied with them in Syria ?
You know that major figures in the creation of Israel used terrorist bombing against civilians & the British and called it justified ?
Does any of this at least strike you as curious ?
Or are you ruled by prejudices fabricated out of propaganda ?
Given the irrationality & cruelty of human beings, our odds of surviving self destruction is probably a very long shot.
It is becoming clear that TPTB are moving into the next phase of their plan for global collapse, then rebirth under the NWO... Too much happening all at once for it to be coincidence... Add a potential global pandemic, a dose of WWIII, financial collapse of nations, then stir and let mother nature take care of the rest... We're all fucked...