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"Scorched Earth": How Israel Converted 40% Of Gaza Into A Wasteland Of Rubble

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Moments ago, after weeks of relentless humiliation for John Kerry, Israel and Hamas agreed to yet another 72 hour ceasefire - one which if the previous "ceasefires" are any indication, will be broken within hours if not minutes. Regardless, Kerry, who cobbled this agreement after much "hard work" alongside the UN's Ban Ki-moon, was ecstatic: "We urge all parties to act with restraint until this humanitarian ceasefire begins, and to fully abide by their commitments during the ceasefire," Kerry and Ban said. "This ceasefire is critical to giving innocent civilians a much-needed reprieve from violence."

What Kerry did not say is that the ceasefire is merely an extended occupation by the IDF: as Reuters reported, the ceasefire statement said "forces on the ground will remain in place" during the truce, implying that Israeli ground forces will not withdraw. Which also assures that it is only a matter of time before yet another stray rocket is launched into Israeli fields, before the IDF retaliates by blowing up another school or hospital allegedly housing Hamas rockets, and so on.

However, while this too ceasefire will come and go, something far more insidious is taking place in Gaza : as the Daily Beast reports, "The Israeli military, relentlessly and methodically, is driving people out of the 3-kilometer (1.8 mile) buffer zone it says it needs to protect against Hamas rockets and tunnels. According to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, the buffer zone eats up about 44 percent of Gaza’s territory."

To be sure, Israel has been quite clear about its intentions and has given Gazans plenty of advance notice:

It’s not like Israel didn’t plan this. It told tens of thousands of Palestinians to flee so its air force, artillery and tanks could create this uninhabitable no-man’s land of half-standing, burned-out buildings, broken concrete and twisted metal. During a brief humanitarian ceasefire some Gazans were able to come back to get their first glimpse of the destruction this war has brought to their communities, and to sift through their demolished homes to gather clothes or other scattered bits of their past lives. But many were not even able to do that.

They will have a chance to do so again for the next three days, or whenever the ceasefire is broken again which will come first.

In the meantime, constant shelling and bombing have converted nearly half of Gaza into a inhospitable wasteland:

What that means on the ground is scenes of extraordinary devastation in places like the Al Shajaya district approaching Gaza’s eastern frontier, and Beit Hanoun in the north. These were crowded neighborhoods less than three weeks ago. Now they have been literally depopulated, the residents joining more than 160,000 internally displaced people in refuges and makeshift shelters. Apartment blocks are fields of rubble, and as I move through this hostile landscape the phrase that keeps ringing in my head is “scorched earth.”

The author of the original article reflects on a world that may as well have emerged from a TS Eliot poem:

In Beit Hanoun the systematic destruction mirrors Al Shajaya. I walk past old men and teenagers trying to lift cinderblocks and slabs of stucco with their bare hands, sometimes in search of a mattress and other times in search of a relative.

 

The desert of demolition only becomes more vast as I get closer to the Israeli border. Individually razed homes and stores give way to gray and white plains of obliterated walls with hills of contorted iron bars and broken-up slabs. Here the bodies are hidden under the new landscape and it will take more than a brief pause in fighting to unearth the gruesome extent of the town’s suffering.

 

“Scorched earth,” historically, means destroying land to deprive the encroaching enemy of its use. Israelis shy away from using the phrase to describe what they are doing because, in Israel, it brings to mind the strategy of the Nazi retreat from Russia at the end of the Second World War.

For Israel, there is a perverse strategy in leveling everything in their path: the practice of systematically flattening neighborhoods is focused on saving the lives of Israeli soldiers, who might otherwise be more exposed to hit-and-run attacks. "Israel is more sensitive than any other country in the West to the death of its soldiers," says Hebrew University political scientist Yaron Ezrahi "The death of [Palestinian] civilians is a moral crisis but is without political impact."

Precisely. And yet the ordinary [Palestinian] civilians, those who have never fired a gun in their lives, lives which sadly have zero "political impact" this is a tragedy beyond words:

When Rania Haels got within 60 feet of the debris that was once her family home in Al Shajaya on Saturday, a machine-gun on top of a nearby Israeli Merkava tank started firing. Probably these were warning shots pumped in her direction, but the 42-year-old mother of seven ran for her life. Now she stays with her family in an overcrowded parking garage in Gaza City and spends her days sitting in a public park full of refugees displaced by the Israeli push.

 

“We lost our homes and so now we live in the streets,” said Haels, holding a toddler in her arms who clings to her pastel-patterned hejab. “This war has destroyed me.” She says at least she knew where her home was. Some of her neighbors could not find their homes as they walked down streets made unrecognizable by the wreckage and horrifying by the presence of death.

 

Rashid al Delo and his 11 children were, like Haels, blocked by Israeli machine-gun fire when they tried to return to their home near the bombed-out Wafa Hospital in Al Shajaya. But despite the dire reality, al Delo, who used to work in Israel but has been unemployed these last 15 years, is determined to salvage his life.

At least they are not dead. However, with every passing day the probability of their survival declines. What is most tragic, however, is that regardless of who is to blame for the ongoing war which is merely the culmination of a middle-east conflict that has continued for thousands of years and whose origins are lost in the sands of time, the international community, so vocal when it comes to the pretense of humanitarian intervention in any other part of the world, is so remarkably incapable to do anything for the ordinary Palestinians who face not only the obliteration of their homes but systematic eradication. All the while the world screams but does nothing.

Why? So that a few rich men can promote their military interests and get even richer: a reason as old as the world itself.

 

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Fri, 08/01/2014 - 01:09 | 5031367 I Write Code
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You know that Israel had a major role in creating Hamas ?

Ridiculous, it was formed to oppose Israel from the start.

You know that the US had a major role in creating Al Qaeda & allied with them in Syria ?

Mostly wrong.  The US helped the mujihadeen in Afghanistan against the Russians and we got some blowback from that, but that was not Al Qaeda, it was not bin Laden.  We held back from aligning with Al Qaeda in Syria.  We did think about it, however.  And ISIS is another matter.

You know that major figures in the creation of Israel used terrorist bombing against civilians & the British and called it justified ?

Mostly wrong.  The Sterngang bombed the King David hotel and nearly screwed the pooch for the more reasonable Zionists, and were in general much more radical than the mainstream, but they were also a splinter group and were nearly turned over to the British - might have been, had it been necessary to keep the deal going.  But even the worst of the Sterngang was just on a par with what the Arabs did as a matter of course.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 03:04 | 5031529 conscious being
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HAMAS opposes the PLO get it?  Divide and conquer.  Instead of joining together to oppose the occupier, religious muslims fight more secular muslims.

Mossad was afraid that a secular Palestinian resistance might catch on with the wider world.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:42 | 5030782 zarjad
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You ask:

"When's the last time Israeli's killed other Israeli's because they didn't belong to the "correct" sect of Judaism ?"''

Glad you did ask. Hope this bit of education will help you.

From Haaretz paper just today:

On Tuesday night a group of Hasidim brutally attacked Avraham Hirschman, 36, a father of six, with clubs, kicks and blows. Hirschman was hospitalized with fractures and other serious injuries.

"They said we'll murder you," Hirschman told Haaretz. "The police knew in advance they were planning the attack but didn't lift a finger."

The assault was part of a violent dispute between members of the large Hasidic Gerrer dynasty and the fanatic Sikrikim group (named after the Sicarii sect in 70 C.E. ) in Mea She'arim.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 03:11 | 5031535 conscious being
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Yitzhak Rabin, the serving prime minister of the zionist entity at the time, was murdered by a fellow tribesman in 1995.

Jumbotron needs to be banned for stupidity.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 06:04 | 5031690 BigJim
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No, I think his viciousness is a nice illustration of Israeli racial supremacism for all to see.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/gaza-is-a-graveyard-theres-no-school-tomorr...

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:45 | 5030784 zarjad
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Violence in the Middle East is certainly not just "Arab" thing. 

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:23 | 5030937 logicalman
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When was the last time the Israelis blew up a hospital?

Oh, yeah, Yesterday.

When was the last time Israel blew up a school?

Oh, yeah, today.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:02 | 5031234 DaveyJones
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"The world doesn't care about Muslims"

hmmm - racist, violent, ignorant, and counterproductive

 I do think you have a future in politics

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 10:30 | 5032423 DocinPA
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Because they're a bunch of neo-Nazi Islamist fucks?  Because they're a bunch of terrorist scumbags?  Because these fuckweasels voted for Hamas in the first place?  Elections have consequences.  Level Gaza with Arc Light strikes.  Fifty Mk 84's per B-52.  Let 'em all live in the Sinai.  Ditto for the West Bank, for the same reasons.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:51 | 5030154 foodstampbarry
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Israel has offered their hand many times in peace, and it has been slapped away. Hamas, and the Palestinians need to be beaten now until they are a bloody pulp, and then use a hose and wash what is left into the sea.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:04 | 5030204 COSMOS
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What lies of peace, They have been stealing land every day since they set foot there.  But wait when the US dollar goes to crap.  Where will Israel get the extra ammo it needs when the USA cant afford to even put gas in a plane and fly down there.  Israel your time is running out.  Once USA goes broke you will implode. Dollar gone as reserve currency means bye bye Israelohole.

http://rt.com/usa/176820-pentagon-idf-unrwa-ammunition/

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:05 | 5030229 Jumbotron
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You're such a fucking stupid cunt I don't know where to begin.  They have been giving back land that was theirs from thousands of years ago and a slice given back to them by Anglos after WW1

The Israelis stole nothing.....and have given back over the last 50 years.

What a stupid, stupid fuck you are.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:09 | 5030258 COSMOS
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Hey Jumbodumbo dont get personal with me.  I want my tax money to stay at home not go to a bunch of war criminals in Israel.   Giving back what land.  They never had any land there to begin with.  They are a bunch of Euros who should of stayed in Europe where they belong.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:37 | 5030420 morty_schatzberg
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They aren't Euros, they're a bunch of Khazars and have more in common with Gypsies.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:46 | 5030464 IReallyDontCare
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Fuc we don't want them,just one look to what they did to the U.S is warning enough.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:12 | 5030274 Overfed
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The Israel of the Bible and the modern Rothschilds-Balfour construct are NOT the same thing.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:51 | 5030491 JLee2027
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No, the modern one is better, as the Bible predicted.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:13 | 5030623 Bay of Pigs
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For a guy thats been around here a long time, you haven't learned much, have you?

 

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 23:32 | 5031150 JLee2027
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I've learned you can trust the Bible, but not most men. What have you learned?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:04 | 5031239 DaveyJones
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gosh, I've learned, like nature,  that there's more than one source of information when your seeking the truth 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:35 | 5031298 Seer
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And as I say about Nature: It's deceptive.  GIven that humans are OF nature it then follows, being the cleverest of chimps, that we are masters of deception.  Yeah, just follow "the" written word (which was written by?).

Human hubris.  That's how it ends...

Davey, it's the FACTS that we're interested in.  "Truth" can be anything (even shit written, would you believe that?).

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 02:39 | 5031498 JLee2027
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So your other alias is Bay of Pigs?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 04:45 | 5031618 Divine
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JLee2027, You say you can trust the Bible more than most of the men.

 

Then would you be happy to help me with some questions I have conserning some verses in the bible.


a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned inExodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. 

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself? 

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? 

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? 

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden byLev 19:27. How should they die? 

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them?(Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) 

 

 

Source: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 04:58 | 5031632 JLee2027
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GOD is not to be mocked. However, you can mock me all day and it won't bother me.

The answers to you are all YES, go right ahead. And when you arrive at the Pearly Gates, tell them it was my fault and they'll throw you straight into hell.

Thank you.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 06:12 | 5031705 BigJim
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Hey, careful, you'll upset nmewn. He hates the OT's obvious voice-of-God nature being questioned.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 07:53 | 5031868 sleigher
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"No, the modern one is better, as the Bible predicted."

 

No, the modern one is the synagogue of satan as the bible predicted.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:20 | 5030326 where_is the_nuke
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Kike you have lost your mind bitch. Go suck dick.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:14 | 5030624 Keyser
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my, my, the new batch of trolls are nasty... Must be striking a nerve... 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:06 | 5031241 DaveyJones
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they are extra nasty, must've lowered their pay, maybe a new commission structure and the converts aren't comin in.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:26 | 5030951 logicalman
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Here you go , Jumbo....

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

David Ben Gurion.

Now fuck off.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:42 | 5031313 Kirk2NCC1701
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Mumbotron, see the following video from an Israeli Jew, who is a lot smarter and more famous than you are.  Pay attention, and you might learn something...

"An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ

Miko Peled ("The General's Son") was born in Jersusalem into a famous and influential Israeli Zionist family. His father was a famous General in the Israeli Army, of which Miko also served his time.

Miko is just one of the many modern day Jews against a Zionist (fascist, racist) state of Israel, wants it replaced with a Democratic state of Israel (for Jews and Palestinians). The information he delivers in this astounding talk, it is not difficult to see why more and more Jews are rejecting Zionism and calling for the dismantling of Israel. It is a true eye-opener for anyone who has for too long been blinded by the fake misinformation given by the mainstream media, and the truths come straight from the heartland where he has spent many years documenting the real story.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:04 | 5032094 Iwanttoknow
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Jumbo moche,what ever the fuck your name is,stick to telaviv .Stop insulting people who actually post logical stuff and not lies & polemics.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:29 | 5030959 logicalman
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Just realised you beat me to it!

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:10 | 5030268 rum_runner
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That you refer to everyone in the Middle East as "muzzie" belies your ignorance and prejudice.  Most Middle East governments are staying pointedly silent about the all-out assault on Gaza.  The real war in the ME is between secular authoritarian power and political Islamic movements like ISIS.  Then shake that up with a million different tribes, loyalties, ethnicities, histories, and ingrained hatreds and you get a vague sense of how royally fucked the situation is.

The Prophet Muhammed would probably throw himself off a bridge if he saw what was going on his old hood where Jews and Muslims used to leave eachother alone (by his edict if necessary), people thought freely, drank wine, and advanced the humanities.

I suppose Jesus would also opt out if he got to meet Dubya, Rick Perry, and half of the "god fearing" elected reps who claim love of the Bible.

Whatever the case.. it seems pretty clear that shit is getting real all over.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:59 | 5030544 my_nym
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The real war in the ME is between secular authoritarian power and political Islamic movements like ISIS.

That's why Israel has served as the air force of Al Qaeda (the toilet) in Syria.  Etc.

ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi Trained by Israeli Mossad, NSA Documents Reveal

Just rambling.  But perhaps to some extent, if Arab peasants are dumb enough for all that then so what?  They want to cut people's heads off, etc.  So it's time to flush the toilet again once they're flushed out, etc.  Plus they were dumb enough to believe that Mecca's cube* and Islam were authentic in the first place, instead of being invented by the cabal that tends to invent religions.  (Look at Masonry, I mean... Mormonism to the 33rd degree.  Lol.)

*Islamic and Talmudic teachings aren't even that different: 

What is risible is that the New York Times and the other east coast media mafia, when reporting on the most oppressive of all the rabbinic factions in this regard (Hasidim, in this instance the politically wellconnected Chabad-Lubavitchers), paint the lives of degraded Hasidic women in glowing colors of fulfillment and serenity, even as they grimly report on oppressed Muslim women who rebel against Islamic fundamentalism. In the eyes of the Establishment media there are no such rebel Judaic women, just a vast cross-section of profoundly fulfilled Talmudic wives, mothers and school girls. An example of this type of outlandish whitewash, is Elsa Brenner’s preceding “A State-of-the-Sect Message.” Mrs. Butman, the focus of the piece, should tell her story to Evelyn Kaye, author of the landmark (and now out of print) exposé of rabbinic misogyny, The Hole in the Sheet. Kaye’s book is hard to find, but Amos Gitai’s important 1999 film, “Kadosh” is still available on DVD, with its factual portrayal of the harrowing fate of women in Orthodox Judaism (this film is rated R and is not for viewing by children or adolescents). Talmudic husbands may treat their wives like “meat from the butcher shop” The Talmud permits the Judaic husband to sodomize his wife to his heart’s content, since Chazal (the Talmudic “sages”) decree that she is not entirely a human being, but rather a piece of meat from a butcher-shop.

Hoffman, Michael (2008-08-10). Judaism Discovered: A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition and Deceit (Kindle Locations 9914-9925). Independent History and Research. Kindle Edition.

The NYT Inc. does a good job of trynig to play pretend about things.  But they've always tended toward protecting ethnic and tribal interests, especially when it came time to create the war with Iraq for OIL (Operation Iraqi Liberatino) as the dumb goy of the Left were led to believe.  No war for oil!  Dumbocrazy in action, as usual.  As AIPAC heads toward Congress and the supposedly all powerful Blood for Oil Lobby doesn't lobby for their supposed war and then the Chinese get the oil anyway.  The Israelis couldn't even be bothered to plant the anthrax labs or some WMDs in Iraq for W to "find."  Although they could be bothered to stage anthrax attacks in America. Etc.  

For the dumb goy of the Left everything is always about oil and the petrodollars that swirl around AFTER wars are created by and for Zion, before the supposedly Leftist representatives of the goyim vote for war... or after they're supposedly against it?  Or however John Kerry put it.  Seriously.  911 truth is the key to some of this.  If only the Leftists could get through their gatekeepers like Chomsky and the Righists could get through Alex Jonestown, huh?   

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:59 | 5031350 I Write Code
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You might want to read the Koran, it's not at all clear what Mohammed would say about things, and certainly later Islamic writings and practices follow the worst parts of the Koran not the best.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 06:17 | 5031710 BigJim
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Try the Talmud.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:18 | 5030314 wewillwin
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hahaha you are such a clueless.... jews in israel will be massacred one day their hed will be cut and they will be killed. It may take a decade or or two but you don't know what is being prepared don't you.....hahaha rember in in one or two decade just rember hahahahahahahahaha

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:36 | 5031302 Seer
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ANYONE reveling in murder should be down-voted.  PERIOD!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 06:34 | 5031728 Urban Redneck
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Perhaps round-trip airfare to to their choice of sunny Gaza, sunny eastern Ukraine, sunny central Iraq, or sunny northern Nigeria would do them more good (with a six month layover).

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:20 | 5030321 Duffy Duck
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From the get go?

You mean from when non-Semitic "Jews" from Europe started arriving with the express intent of ethnically cleansing the natives?

Is that right?

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 03:20 | 5031545 conscious being
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You said non Semetic "Jews", Daffy.  Watch out! Any minute now, some Khazar decended AIPAC shill is gonna call you Auntie-Semetic.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:42 | 5030445 DanNZ
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My your soulless inhumanity be returned upon you tenfold!

 

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:50 | 5030487 JLee2027
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It will be 100% flattened if they keep shooting rockets and attacking Israel.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:28 | 5030695 MeMongo
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Here Jlee dick try to refute!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMniFQCyqTg

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 23:44 | 5031182 JLee2027
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No thanks. And don't insult people if you cannot debate.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:40 | 5031310 MeMongo
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Mongo can debate jooolian Lee all day long ......but Mongo would rather pick the funk out from unda his toe nails than debate a hasbara BOT! Bye bye Bitch!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 01:34 | 5031402 JLee2027
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Goodbye. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. 

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:41 | 5030717 The_Prisoner
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You're right! Everyone should stop attacking Israel, including verbally. And welcome them as overlords as you have done in the US.

And you call yourself the land of the free.

Check the Bible and report back about what it says about collaborators.

Edit: not the scofield bible the Jews got made to co-opt the US Christians.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:29 | 5030962 tickhound
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"It will be 100% flattened blah blah blah..."

Reminds me of a similar idiot to you saying something equally immature regarding Vietnam...

"they’ve got to draw in their horns and stop their aggression, or we’re going to bomb them back into the Stone Age."

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:40 | 5031311 Seer
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Attacking?

I do believe that someone posted an article about how the IDF stages incidents in order to test new weapons out on Palestinians.

The more that Israel kills the less it will be in the end.  Don't care what "god" is invoked: Mother Nature trumps all of our invisible friends- "she" doesn't act out of hubris.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:58 | 5030532 McCormick No. 9
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I think you misspelled your name- isn't it Jumbotroll?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:22 | 5030660 alien-IQ
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I am becoming more and more convinced that they have, as a nation and as a people, lost their collective minds and have gone into a total sociopathic meltdown.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:31 | 5030719 john39
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Gilad Atzmon, raised an Israeli and perhaps one of the most insightful commentators on the culture, often says that the Jewish identity itself is a form of psychosis.   Plenty of evidence to prove his point these days.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:44 | 5031321 Seer
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I'm thinking that this guy has a little understanding of things:

U.S. Jewish Leader Henry Siegman to Israel: Stop Killing Palestinians and End the Occupation

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/31/us_jewish_leader_henry_siegman_to

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:33 | 5030723 hoolege06
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Couldn't have said it better myself Jumbotron! All of these ignorant people on here blow me away (no pun intended) at how unbelievably blind they are to history and facts. Keep up the good fight Israel! 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 03:30 | 5031552 conscious being
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You're not a Jew either, are you? You must be a Christian, because of your obvious Crusader outfit.  Does the yamaka get itchy under that helmet??

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:50 | 5030815 tony wilson
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jumbotron

put your cock away little man close your eyes and imagine how sane you could have been if you had not had your forceskin bitten off by a rabbi : )

 

http://www.zengardner.com/male-circumcision-alters-brain-victims/#

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:56 | 5030847 The Gooch
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I hate everyone equally until proven good people.

But...    As long as they are on a tear, head for Riyadh.

Oh... Wait...

 

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:47 | 5030136 NidStyles
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Fuck Israel

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:50 | 5030150 LetThemEatRand
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I'm with you on this one, only I would add -- fuck both sides.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:05 | 5030233 123dobryden
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yeah! both sides of isralis anus

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:07 | 5030892 The Gooch
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This is just another act of the BLATANT FUCKING THEATRE of revolving door history at the expense of life.

You don't think the globalists are applying Cloward-Piven as well?

It's going down.

Right now.

Boo!

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:16 | 5030282 HardAssets
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Think how much USA provided money and weapons technology has added to the death toll on both sides over the last 60+ years in the M.E. (Similar to how an added number of lives were lost from 1917 to 1945 worldwide because of US intervention in 1917.)

Time for us to do the world a favor and mind our own damned business. Time for the 'Progressive' era b.s. To end.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:18 | 5030310 COSMOS
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http://rt.com/usa/176820-pentagon-idf-unrwa-ammunition/

Certainly adding to death of more kids.  Wasnt Albright a dual citizen that killed tons of kids in Iraq.  To the Israeli dual citizens, death of children and war crimes are justified when it comes to stealing land or resources.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:34 | 5030402 HardAssets
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I think America should stick to 'no entangling alliances'.

That said, these discussions always seem to degrade into name calling and unsupported allegations. For example, what kind of solid evidence, verified by expert neutral observers, is there that there is an extensive tunnel system being used to attack Israel ? If such tunnels are proven, does the harm or real potential harm justify current Israeli operations?

We know all about the 'weapons of mass destruction' used to justify the Iraq War, so want solid evidence. If such tunnels exist and are being used, and if the Palestinian people are being used as human shields, Israel has the right to defend themselves.

Where is the solid evidence from both sides ?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:49 | 5030482 Seer
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"if the Palestinian people are being used as human shields"

Yeah, WTF?  I mean, when they can just jump in their hardened tanks and bunkers, like the Israelis...

Asymmetrical warfare.  The Palestinians don't have the military budget (as well as land from which to withdraw to) that Israel has.

Rules for war?  HA!

It all comes down to one thing, and one thing only: Which group if killing more of the other group...

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:57 | 5030810 tickhound
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Right. No different than colonists shooting British officers from trees with their long-rifles. Oh the unthinkable outrage! I'm sure if they could've the British would've droned our farmer asses, with an entire entourage of zh loyalists all about it.

Or the confederates blowing up union medical frigates on the Mississippi. Or how any modern American may act if a chinese soldier with an AK sat outside his porch daily to protect his "interests"... For 5, 10, 20 years... With no military, you do what you have to do.

Droning a building from two miles is "civilized." Dropping a grenade in a public square is "terrorism." It's called WAR you stupid bitchez. And one is no worse than the other.

Too many hypocrites 'round here. The condemnation of our War on Terror as an unwinnable war against a military tactic, is apparently dependent the enemy.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:29 | 5030966 logicalman
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War doesn't decide who's right, it decides who's left.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:52 | 5030163 CH1
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Because Hamas is a collection of saints who would never, ever kill civilians.

Oh, wait!

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:59 | 5030201 john39
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pikers compared to the masters of death living in israhell.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:07 | 5030245 123dobryden
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sorry son, they at least look like they are from there, unlike those european looking soldiers murdering them. dna says so

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:53 | 5030171 morty_schatzberg
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Jews have done more damage to Western Civilization than any raghead could ever dream.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:57 | 5030190 CH1
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Nice try Achmed.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:00 | 5030202 morty_schatzberg
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I'm 7th generation American dickhead.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:06 | 5030238 Jumbotron
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Well.....THAT'S something to be proud of .......LOL !!!!!

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:23 | 5030348 morty_schatzberg
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Because transient parasites are far nobler, right?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:08 | 5030244 LetThemEatRand
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"I'm 7th generation American dickhead."

I'm only 3rd generation American Dickhead.   But my wife tells me I'm an old soul dickhead.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:18 | 5030312 NoPension
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I'm just a dickhead.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:22 | 5030346 where_is the_nuke
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I am just a kike.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:18 | 5030645 alien-IQ
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Well, I guess that's your cross to bear isn't it?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:02 | 5030203 Escrava Isaura
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morty_schatzberg

Did you mean Jews or Zionists?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:14 | 5030259 morty_schatzberg
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Every Jew is a Zionist by definition. The negligible minority that aren't have no voice and are ostracized from influence in their "community". They are de facto "self-hating" and essentially non-Jews because being a Jew is also cleverly a Religion.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 07:26 | 5031809 Escrava Isaura
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morty_schatzberg,

Have you ever consider that the Jew population is NO better than the Christians?

Both heavily indoctrinated from childhood to believe in nonsense. Not to challenge authority?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:47 | 5030137 sunnyside
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Just 60% left to go.  Fuck all of them.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:51 | 5030156 LetThemEatRand
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No, just 59.9% left to go.  The .1% get a free pass in all cultures.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:41 | 5030771 MeMongo
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@ Sunnyslide

Eat a dick you war mongering cheesepope! Take a look at the picture of the Palestinian father clutching his daughter who has the whole back of her head blown off, with her brain completely gone....If that doesn't make you sick and full of dread all the way to the depths of your soul than I submit you are soulless! And if you really believe and feel the way that your typing then Mongo feels a level of PITY that your chosen ass will never comprehend. And that my friend is exactly why your peeps have been tossed out of over 100 Countries .....some more than once...Youd think they would have got it but meh! It will happen again sometime after your tribes people get done eradicating a people who never held an offensive EVER and has unfortunately since 48 been doing nothing but surviving from a vile evil that will hopefully see it's end very soon! You Hasbara will not respond, but here is what the average human is finally starting to learn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMniFQCyqTg

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:06 | 5031893 sleigher
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You might be forgetting, "The jew is as different from the non-jew, as the the non-jew is from an insect."  Do you feel dread when you step on an ant?  Just sayin...

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:48 | 5030138 Umh
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Sounds like a plan.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:49 | 5030140 Jumbotron
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Oh....and take out the leader of Hamas.....unless he's already turn tail and run out of the country to save his sorry, cowardly ass.  Probably had his wife and kids act as human shields.

 

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:53 | 5030173 CH1
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take out the leader of Hamas....

LOL... as if the leaders of Hamas would actually live in Gaza??

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:57 | 5030192 centerline
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Jumbo has no balance.  Just provoking shit.  A troll.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:00 | 5030206 fonzannoon
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it's interesting to see some people who have been on here a while just go off the tracks.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:20 | 5030276 viahj
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makes one wonder about trust.  in this day and age, i have none. 

let me add this.  we are witnessing the deliberate take down of ZH (which is beholden to archaic EU anti-discriminatory regulations) by the army of disinformation and propaganda warriors employed by western .gov.  the message is being muddy'd at an alarming rate. 

the chair is against the wall.  stand by.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:16 | 5030642 alien-IQ
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Correct.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 23:00 | 5031064 palmereldritch
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I agree.  I saw a similar coordinated assault on ZH when Gabrielle Giffords was shot.  The outrageous and orchestrated cliche hate demanding a populist statist censure then was readily transparent. It was a pre-meditated two-fer attack on the First and Second Amendment.

That said, I whole heartedly support The First Amendment, so it is sometimes best to just recognize and illustrate the attack rather than enable its encroachment further by reacting in a response that is synthetically programmed by the attackers to advance their agenda.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:55 | 5030511 Seer
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Yeah, fucking pent up nutters...  Politics and religion tend to do that to folks.

And on the flipside, it's good to see the stable people continue to be stable...

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:08 | 5030253 Jumbotron
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Look at the sentiment here asshole.

It's primarily for the Muzzies and anti-Jew/Israel.  I AM the balance.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:20 | 5030334 NoPension
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Damn these anti- Jew threads " Halt and Catch Fire"

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:23 | 5030349 where_is the_nuke
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you are the bitch

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:08 | 5030598 Winston Churchill
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At least his is being paid to post his crap.

Lets just ignore the arseholes ,they prolly get paid by the response.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:08 | 5030249 nmewn
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Exactly.

Khaled Mashal, lives in, wait for it...Qatar.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 09:13 | 5032127 Iwanttoknow
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Your preacher told you that?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:06 | 5030235 darteaus
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To get him, they'd have to nail the hospital in Gaza, according to the WashPo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:12 | 5030279 alien-IQ
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It takes real courage to kill women and children from an f-16, battleship or tank.

But the cowards are the guys with nothing but machine guns raiding an Israeli guard tower and taking out all 5 Israeli soldiers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAhozItSq0
(please note that there were NO WOMEN OR CHILDREN KILLED IN THIS ATTACK.)

You are morally bankrupt.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:21 | 5030340 NoPension
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Naw, you just gotta lead em a little.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:14 | 5030630 ljag
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If you read the headlines here on ZH, you would know that MUSLIMS are the moral fabric od USA.....according to our fearless leader and choom wagon extraordinaire Barry S.

Again. I forget..how many countries were the Jews expelled from?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:49 | 5030141 knukles
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Somebody opened the 7th Seal, and it ain't good

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:51 | 5030143 suicidalpsychologist
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wel, this is what happen when you hide behind women and kids to launch rockets at israeli s...women and kids.

 

I hope I ll see the jews get rid of these stinky ragheads once and for all before I kick the bucket.

 

 

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:52 | 5030160 john39
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pathetic and evil.  Murdering kids and lying about why...  you are not fooling the world any longer.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:56 | 5030182 CH1
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Let's see, if I were getting a new neighbor, and if I could pick either a Jewish guy or a member of Hamas.....

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:58 | 5030193 john39
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if you are thinking the Jewish guy, what are going to do after he steals your home and screams anti-semitism when you try and take it back?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:03 | 5030223 Escrava Isaura
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john39,

 All the indoctrinated puppets are giving the right to sound stupid. That’s too bad that you abuse of that privilege.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:06 | 5030241 kito
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john39, based on this last comment, id say you harbor ill will towards jews in general.....please clarify....i thought it was only the israeli leadership you had a problem with....btw, you know you are named after a jew, right? john the baptist, son of jews zacharias and elizabeth..who lived in judea......

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:15 | 5030285 alien-IQ
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Why is it that Jews are allowed to hate Arabs but NOBODY is allowed to hate Jews?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:22 | 5030343 john39
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I try not to hate any person... I oppose actions.  If you can look at what israel is doing to Palestinians and not get physically ill, then something is wrong with you (not you A-IQ).

As far as the people of Israel go, if polls from israel are to be believed, 90+ percent are backing the government on these attacks, so Kito who bears the responsibility?  I certainly agree that not all Israelis are OK with what is happening...  but if I was one of those, i would be getting out of Israel immediatly, it is not going to end well for them.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:30 | 5030707 Seer
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U.S. Jewish Leader Henry Siegman to Israel: Stop Killing Palestinians and End the Occupation

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/31/us_jewish_leader_henry_siegman_to

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:24 | 5030359 Jackagain
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You mean like this?

http://vimeo.com/94676269

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:27 | 5030368 NoPension
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There's lots of Jew haters. Read on,skippy.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:36 | 5030410 alien-IQ
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obviously not enough...and not nearly as many as there will be tomorrow, or the day after that, or the day after that...

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:03 | 5030226 morty_schatzberg
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Lol. False dichotomy. If I had to live next to either I've lost my country.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:44 | 5030426 darteaus
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When I was over there, I found the Jews tough to deal with: clannish, acquisition focused, a bit mercenary, calculating.

Egyptians: nicest people you'll ever meet in one of the most messed up countries ever.

Jordanians: Angry, mercenary.  Probably comes at being everyone's "boy"-they are landlocked without oil in the middle of Iraq, Saudi, Syria and Israel.  Gotta play the middle man with that hand.

Christians: They are Arab first, and Christian by tradition.  They are not evangelical.  Tough position to be in: Christian and living in PA West Bank selling religious curios with Fatah "cops" running around with AKs.  The street light poles all have banners with the photos of different "martyrs".  Not much upside there.

The few Palistinians I met were educated, GOT THE HECK OUT as fast as they could, and had nothing good to say about the place.  They seem like middle class people anywhere: trying to raise their kids, build a career, buy a house, etc.

AND, with all that said, nobody-and I mean NOBODY I ever met-thinks the Palestinian leaders are reasonable.  They refuse to govern or collaborate.  They won't take money and govern; they only take money and try to destroy Israel and kill Jews. 

They scream, over and over, about destroying Israel and killing Jews.  Listen to their translated speaches and articles, and you'll find their arguments pretty circular.

"The Jews took our land.  Kill the Jews.  Take our land back."  OK.  Then what?  They can't run Gaza; they can't agree on Hamas/Fatah for the Palestinian Authority; but they could run a larger country? Really?

If Israel ceased to exist, and all the Jews went somewhere else, the Palistinian leadership would see that as a great GREAT victory, and they would immediately turn their guns on Christians, Shiites, other Arabs, etc.  Do you really think Hamas would disband their army after a great victory and leave everyone else in peace?  That, my friend, is just not the historical record.

Believing this conflict is Israel's fault is simply parroting the Hamas schtick

I pity the Palistinians, but continuing to attack Israel has not been a winning strategy since 1948.

Move on, like Jordan and Egypt, and make a better country with what you have; leave others alone and get your own act together.

Gosh knows they have enough money from the EU, UN, etc., but the political/cultural will is not there, and that is not Israel's fault.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:44 | 5030459 Infinite QE
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Problem with your juvenile analysis is that they are building the planned Greater Israel. Go look it up. Iraq, Syria, Iran. All to be woven into their sick fucking agenda.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:53 | 5030493 darteaus
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=======================

EXCLUSIVE   EXCLUSIVE  EXCLUSIVE

         HERE ON ZEROHEDGE!

=======================

It can now be revealed, by Infinite QE,

that Isreal is "building the planned Greater Isreal...

Iraq, Syria, Iran"

And Israel chose to start their conquest 

by GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION!

TO GAZA!!!

 

Jew hating fool

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:57 | 5030853 tony wilson
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gas and oil is this weeks reason you zionist cunts.

a deal with saudi and qatar israel is doing another land grab they need hamas that is why they fund them.

these are old techniques perfected by the british tsken to another level by the yid.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:03 | 5030875 WillyGroper
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Fool?

Hmmm, 7 countries 5 yrs. Tell it to a 4 star general.

 

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:18 | 5030930 Seer
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"AND, with all that said, nobody-and I mean NOBODY I ever met-thinks the Palestinian leaders are reasonable.  They refuse to govern or collaborate.  They won't take money and govern; they only take money and try to destroy Israel and kill Jews. "

I wonder whether having the CIA and MOSSASD digging in your underwear all the time has anything to do with the despotic behavior of the Palestinian "leaders?"

If the roles were reversed and Israel was getting its ass mopped I'd think that the citizens of Israel wouldn't have great things to say about their "leaders" either.  When the big global reset happens we'll see...

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 22:27 | 5030952 teslaberry
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Im a new york jew and an unapologetic zionist. both my grandpartents fought in the 1948 independence war in israel and came to the u.s in the 50's due to poverty in israel. 

i've done LOTS of research and i'm not going to lie about israel being the good guy.  they aren't the 'bad guy' either. 

they are the STRONGER GUY WHO IS A LACKEY OF THE WESTERN EMPIRES. 

 

there's nothing wrong with arabs wanting to control the middle east and destroy israel. land is land. it is the one resource consistently fought over for all of human history. 

it's not about who is right or morally correct. the native americans were not only dispossessed from their lands by american settlers from europe 250 some odd years ago, but they are genocided in massive numbers. massive. and starved to death. 

 

really, everyone who has studied history knows that the only goal of power is survival. those who survive get to write history and engage in luxurious self guilt about their transgressions later. 

 

israel is a western style state and HIGHLY SECULAR. as a totally secularized jew myself, not communist, but not religiously orthodox either, ----i see israel as a net desireable thing for western civilization and for human beings who are part of the western empires. 

is it perfect, no. do they run a slave state like saudi arabia. no. 

do i feel bad for human beings losing their homes, in gaza and elsewhere, yes. 

 

do i care if israel has a goal of removing all of the residents of gaza and annexing the land and having israeli settlers live there, while they relocate all of the gazans to the west bank jordan and egypt; no. 

 

israel has lots of big problems. and they will deal with it as best they see fit. and good for them. 

if you want to support countries that would like to destroy israel , go for it. if you would like the u.s. to put economic sanctions on israel, well i'm an american citizen  and I"m going to oppose your politics on that because your politics work against my view of america being better off with a strong israel than with trying to destroy israel. 

 

i'm not going to call you anti-semite. i don't really care. go ahead and hate jews if you want. but israel is still a pretty amazing and special spot and i think it's  a decent place and makes the west better off. just as does south korea, taiwan, and singapore. all pretty amazing little places!

 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 00:51 | 5031336 where_is the_nuke
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How about Moscow?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 01:17 | 5031376 Seer
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Good of you to be honest (assuming your story is actually true0.

Do know, however, that Western Civilization is pretty much toast.  No, I'm not saying this to support some political/religious agenda: I'd like to think that I"m above that.  Given that Western Civilization has become totally dependent on diminishing resources it is clear that its time is running out.  None of this is said by myself as a "desire," I have nothing to gain by it (other than just trying to anticipate how to survive).

Superiority doesn't exist.  In the end bacteria will mop the planet with us.  Peak human hubris, if not already reached, is sure to be near...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 06:46 | 5031741 BigJim
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 i'm not going to call you anti-semite. i don't really care. go ahead and hate jews if you want. but israel is still a pretty amazing and special spot

LOL, apophasis much?

But thanks for being honest about your background.

israel is a western style state and HIGHLY SECULAR. as a totally secularized jew myself, not communist, but not religiously orthodox either, ----i see israel as a net desireable thing for western civilization and for human beings who are part of the western empires.

The problem with your logic is the underlying premise that Israelis - who are essentially Westerners surrounded by less technologically sophisticated Arabs - would not be contributing just as much to civilisation if they're weren't in Israel. In fact, the opposite is true; instead of having to devote so many resources to the militarism that is necessary to repel the incensed natives trying to get their land back, they could be doing actually productive work somehere they weren't under existential threat.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:28 | 5031966 sleigher
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You mean like the jewish autonomous oblast handed to them? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast) I suppose that would have required actual work though, like farming and whatnot...  They do so well living off the labor of others there is no reason for that.  

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 08:14 | 5031927 Sandmann
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You know Germany in 1933 was a bastion against Communism. It had faced down Communists in Berlin in 1918 and beaten them in Dortmund and other cities during their uprising in 1923. It was a bastion against Communism.

But the Western Powers decided to fight it and bring Stalin into Berlin and let him occupy Austria.

The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was nothing on what Yalta and Potsdam did turning millions of Europeans into Slaves of Stalin......and those Occupied Zones were run by Moscow puppets, usually Jewish who had spent the war in Moscow.

So just how did it come to be that Berman, Bierut, Minc, and Rakosi et al were all Jewish agents of Stalin oppressing the subject peoples with Secret Police and torture....?

This was the result of the Second World War. So if you want to think of Israel as some kind of bulwark don't forget Germany thought that too......and was destroyed

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:57 | 5030524 Seer
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WOW!  Just fucking WOW!

Comparative analysis failure much?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:04 | 5030567 Escrava Isaura
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Seer,

How can we argue the point, without missing the point?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:07 | 5030589 where_is the_nuke
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How about a magic trick?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 01:19 | 5031381 Seer
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You're too new to ZH to have the privilege.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 07:22 | 5031800 Escrava Isaura
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Have the privilege of what?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 03:49 | 5031569 MeelionDollerBogus
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then I'd pick Hamas.

The Hamas guy only wants to hold his own land. The other guy wants my house too and will kill my family to take it and then pretend I started it.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:15 | 5030266 firstdivision
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I hope you kick it soon, as you're the only asshole that celebrates pictures like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fVGHHazE4EA/ULqKqomVhbI/AAAAAAAAGE4/4znYveYkLG...

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 21:03 | 5030568 McCormick No. 9
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Mr Suicidal, why are you still with us? Don't you have something better to do? I mean, from your name, I gather that kicking the bucket is a timetable YOU get to create.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:51 | 5030153 morty_schatzberg
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They want to control the world and steal everyone's homeland. If they can't drive the vulgar goyim out militarily they will prefer to call everyone racists and demand mass immigration and multiculturalism. We are equal, except some are more equal than others. "By deception shalt thou do war".

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:51 | 5030155 groundedkiwi
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 So who is being wiped off the map?

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 20:15 | 5030158 Stackers
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15 year unemployed father of 11 ? ...... I think his life fell apart a long time ago.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 19:53 | 5030166 alien-IQ
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Reports surfacing that Israel has warned journalists staying at a hotel on the beach in Gaza to evacuate because they are planning on bombing the hotel....Seriously...WTF??????

https://twitter.com/jrosyfield/status/494966085775392768

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