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The Drought Goes From Bad To Catastrophic

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As we previously commented, when scientists start using phrases such as "the worst drought" and "as bad as you can imagine" to describe what is going on in the western half of the country, you know that things are bad. However, in recent weeks the dreadful situation in California has gone from bad to catastrophic as the U.S. Drought Monitor reported that more than half of the state is now in experiencing 'exceptional' drought, the most severe category available. And most of the state – 81% – currently has one of the two most intense levels of drought.

 

h/t @TimOBrien

 

As WaPo reports,

While California’s problems are particularly severe, that state is not alone in experiencing significant drought right now. There are wide swaths of moderate to severe drought stretching from Oregon to Texas, with problems impacting numerous states west of the Mississippi River.

 

Some of the most severe droughts outside of California are impacting large pockets in Oklahoma, Texas and, particularly, Nevada, where more than half of the state is currently experiencing one of the two most intense drought conditions:

 

 

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As we concluded previously,

Most people just assume that this drought will be temporary, but experts tell us that there have been "megadroughts" throughout history in the western half of the United States that have lasted for more than 100 years.

 

If we have entered one of those eras, it is going to fundamentally change life in America.

 

And the frightening thing is that much of the rest of the world is dealing with water scarcity issues right now as well.  In fact, North America is actually in better shape than much of Africa and Asia.  For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled "25 Shocking Facts About The Earth’s Dwindling Water Resources".

 

Without plenty of fresh water, modern civilization is not possible.

 

And right now, the western United States and much of the rest of the world is starting to come to grips with the fact that we could be facing some very serious water shortages in the years ahead.

 

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Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:02 | 5034870 junction
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Legalize hopium!

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On the Ebola newsfront: Yesterday, July 31, 2014, NBC Nightly News' Dr. Nancy Snyderman was reporting on the Ebola virus and what a change in her attitude from a few days ago when she said there was nothing to worry about.  No more happy talk about how the virus is isolated in western Africa.  The same Snyderman who after the Fukushima Daiichi reactor meltdowns said on March 16, 2011 or thereabout that the USA has nothing to worry about from fallout from the plumes of radioactive isotopes streaming from the busted reactors.  Remember on September 18, 2001 when EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman gave the all-clear around Ground Zero, stating that the EPA had found no bio hazard in downtown Manhattan even as smoke and toxic debris continued to vent into the air from the WTC site?  Also on NBC Nightly News was CDC Director Thomas Friden stating that you cannot catch Ebola from just casual contact, you have to be exposed to bodily fluids.  Sneezes apparently don't count.  The level of misinformation on this news show about Ebola hemorrhagic fever was mind boggling.  Snyderman's report closed with news on an appeal being made for medical professionals to deal with the outbreak.  In other words, don't quarantine the Ebola area, creating a cordon sanitaire.  Instead of road blocks, send in more doctors in spacesuits to be infected.  Incompetence and happy talk rule the nightly network news, bastions of misinformation if not outright lies.  

    

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:15 | 5034958 Raymond K Hessel
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Way Off Topic.

You're like Alfalfa in It's A Wonderful Life, to which I say, "Oh, Why don't you stop annoying people!!"

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:20 | 5034980 ZerOhead
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We are left with two stark alternative storylines.

Either God Hates California and Nevada because of the pornography and gambling industries (in addition to Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Not-so-Fienstein)

Or...

California is re-entering another period of historic drought.

 

Severe Ancient Droughts: A Warning to California By WILLIAM K. STEVENS
Published: July 19, 1994

BEGINNING about 1,100 years ago, what is now California baked in two droughts, the first lasting 220 years and the second 140 years. Each was much more intense than the mere six-year dry spells that afflict modern California from time to time, new studies of past climates show. The findings suggest, in fact, that relatively wet periods like the 20th century have been the exception rather than the rule in California for at least the last 3,500 years, and that mega-droughts are likely to recur.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/19/science/severe-ancient-droughts-a-warn...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:25 | 5035000 Stackers
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National Geographic did an even better story earlier this year.

 

What the West's Ancient Droughts Say About It's Future

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/02/140214-drought-californi...

 

"What research shows is a roughly 50- to 90-year cycle of wet and dry periods over the last few thousand years, with some droughts lasting over a decade. But between 900 and 1400 A.D., during the 'Medieval Warm Period,' there were a couple of droughts that were over a century long," said B. Lynn Ingram, professor of Earth and planetary science and geography at the University of California, Berkele

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:30 | 5035043 ZerOhead
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Wow... National Geographic actually used the banned phrase "Medieval Warm period".

It's been such a global warming shill lately that I cancelled my subscription. Now I feel bad.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:38 | 5035072 cifo
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Meanwhile, it rains almost every day in the North East.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:41 | 5035112 Publicus
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The Chinese have the solution. The multi-decade $70+ billion South–North Water Transfer Project is near completion.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:48 | 5035155 Save_America1st
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it's the Californian eco-system's way of saying how much it hates having lib-tard Californians on it's back for so long.  The major drawback is that more and more of those cancerous fuckers will leave Cali and spread out to further invest other good states.  Oregon used to be nice until the Californian lib-tards showed up.  They'll spread like the disease that they are and will fuck up Washington, Idaho, Montana, Utah, etc.  They're already fucking up Texas of all places!  

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:02 | 5035237 Statetheist
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Stop pretending Texas is some bastion of freedom and liberty. It's just as horribly statist as every other shitshow state living under the boot of the FedGov.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:54 | 5035517 LetThemEatRand
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Perry got a lot smarter since he started wearing glasses.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:12 | 5035614 Keyser
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They hate us in Texas for our freedoms... /s

On the drought topic, the SW US has a 200 year drought cycle... Guess which phase they are entering now?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:25 | 5035674 Pinch
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Another climate change / global warming story (on this right wing site) that does not use the phrases climate change or global warming.

Ostriches!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:43 | 5036376 Tall Tom
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The Left/Right paradigm is bullshit. There is no difference between the RePUKES and the DemoCRAPS. One is just as nauseating as the other.

 

This is not a "Right Wing" site.

 

You are on an anarchy/Capitalist or Libertarian site. Some are Constitutionalists but most here want Liberty and Freedom from the totalitarian oligarchy which currently dictates over America.

 

Now I am an anarchist. Fuck all Governments.

 

Why in the fuck don't idiots like you wake the fuck up?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:13 | 5036474 J S Bach
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I have land to sell in the Great Lakes region.  Water aplenty.  Cold winters... but make up your f-ing mind.  What are your priorities... unending sunshine or agrarian health.  

 

Do I hear $200,000?  Going once... going twice...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:13 | 5036599 vie
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So all these planes leaving "persistent contrails" in the sky over CA have nothing to do with the lack of water?  Call me paranoid but I suspect foul play.  Remember when Colorado had that 100 year deluge (just a few miles from DIA and Cheyenne Mountain btw)... where'd all that water go?  Not down the Colorado river apparently.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:16 | 5036607 vie
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LA is going to be fun without water.  You'll notice how LA and SF are basically the epicenter of the drought.  Funny how we live right off the ocean, yet we have drought.  Like the moisture somehow skips over us, over the mountains and into the central US...  seems backward.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:03 | 5037153 fleur de lis
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The HAARP chemtrails could easily seed the sky and modify the weather if our controllers wanted this problem resolved. But they don't. Crazed social and environmental policies with absolutely no thoughts of monetary balance or long-term impact factored in is a recipe for disaster. They can't even claim stupidity. They are nothing short of reckless. How they get away with this I will never understand. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:23 | 5037301 CheapBastard
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Simple solution: Raise property taxes to 2-3% and build some desalination plants.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:29 | 5037469 epobirs
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Or don't raise taxes and find other funding, which they are doing:

http://hbfreshwater.com/

 

Santa Barbara spent many millions on a desal plant about 25 years ago, then allowed it to fall into ruin when it was wet for a few years. Much like the state chose to save money by cutting back on resevoir capacity during an unusually long wet period and made the situation far worse than it should have been when drought came around again.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 22:51 | 5039408 sylviasays
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"You'll notice how LA and SF are basically the epicenter of the drought."

LA and SF are the epicenter of drought but they get all the water they need (and more) because water is shipped in from hundreds of miles away. Residents in the SF Bay Area get most of their water from Hetch Hetchy reservoir in Yosemite and residents in LA get most of their water from Northern California.  The millions who live in LA and SF are not under mandatory water restrictions while residents in Sacramento have mandatory water restrictions and heavy fines despite the fact the city has large two rivers that flow through it year round. 


Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:05 | 5037267 juangrande
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No that water runs east and south. The Colorado doesn't recharge from the front range.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:21 | 5037183 Dapper Dan
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Water, water, every where,
Nor any drop to drink.

 

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26178506/breaking-urgent-notice

TOLEDO, OH (Toledo News Now) -

The City of Toledo issued an urgent notice to residents of Toledo and Lucas County who receive water from the city of Toledo.

You are being asked to avoid drinking or boiling water.

Chemists testing water at Toledo's Collins Park Water Treatment Plant had two sample readings for microcystin

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:43 | 5037225 Oquities
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i experienced "climate change" yesterday - it rained here after being sunny.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:18 | 5037291 Winston Churchill
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Is that you Quackmeister ?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:32 | 5037684 Duffy Duck
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Which is it, warming or change?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:55 | 5037950 1000924014093
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Through tree-ring data, paleoclimatologists have determined that Californie went through at least two 100+ year long droughts, more severe than today at 1250AD and 1350AD, e.g. this is not "Global warming" or at least not the man caused kind.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:44 | 5037224 just-my-opinion
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Don't mess with Texas...Bitchez

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:25 | 5035918 TuPhat
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In my part of Texas we have had more than the normal rainfall for the summer.  I say if they have no water let the californicators drink wine.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:48 | 5036011 loonyleft
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Even Jesus needed water to make wine

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:16 | 5037087 Miles Ahead
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... but they told me it was really grape juice; that Jesus would never drink alcohol... shit, what now?  I need a serious rethink here.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:48 | 5036400 Tall Tom
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Where are you at. I will just love to go to Texas.

 

There are plenty of Oil Refineries. They are open targets, especially the distillation towers.

 

Just a heads up. You have to be careful of those Middle Eastern teerrrrists.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:47 | 5037132 SubjectivObject
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Middle Eastern?

As in Middle East Coast?

As in falseflagfomenting ...

DC?

Yeppers yappers!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:26 | 5037191 Handful of Dust
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Tall Tom, funny you mention that. I just read East Houston [where most of those refineries are located] has a liver cancer rate 5-10x higher then the rest of Texas. The air, water, etc is saturated with chemicals in them there parts ... they suspect.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:20 | 5037095 Took Red Pill
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it takes 109 liters of water to make 1 glass of wine;
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jan/10/how-much-water-food...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:24 | 5037861 Kirk2NCC1701
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Late post, snuck in.  Sorry. 

All these posts and digressions, sarcasm and humor is fine, but let's not lose sight of several key matters:

1. NATURAL REALITY

   1a. The laws of math, physics and Mother Nature will always rule on this planet, no matter what you believe or what your "faith" (ancient worldview) promotes.

   1b. Hence, as the saying goes, "That which cannot be maintained, won't be". Suggest you plan accordingly.

   1c. There isn't a "lack of water".  There are "too many people in CA", relative to the water available and natural cycles.

2. HUMAN REALITY

   2a. Most "Californians" are not indigenous.  Just like most of the stuff they grow.  Both are "transplants".

   2b. Call a place "Paradise", and you can kiss it good-bye (line from old Eagles song).  CA attracted many of the right and wrong people from the rest of the country and the world.

   2c. CA has lots of the right people (combo of smart, self-reliant, hard-working, creative, gutsy, honest), and even more of the wrong people (combo of dumb, lazy, scared, dependent, opportunists, crooked).  Looks like the ones in the latter group are steadily gaining the upper hand. Which also explains the rise of the poor quality of politicians:  "A people deserve their leaders", is a truism.  Because they either voted for them, or did nothing and let the others pick the low-grade person.

3. COMBINED EFFECTS

Given Natural and Human reality above, fact is that most water demand is for Agriculture, then Industry, and only then for household.  Public debate does not address this at all, or not in an objective and factual manner.  Politics and profits (both represented by powerful, self-serving interests) are driving the debate, not math, physics or common sense.

Given the non-negotiable reality of 1 above, suggest you plan for the negotiable/mitigating reality of human nature in point 2. 

IMO... If you're in CA or NV, please stay there, and don't expect the other states to "bail you in" with undue amounts of water.  You are not entitled to have them maintain your lifestyle, if you can't do it on your own.  And screw your produce -- we'll grown our own.  If you like your avocados, wine and raisins, you can keep your avocados, wine and raisins.  And NV, if you like your dancing girls and casinos, you can keep your dancing girls and casinos.

-Kirk out.

p.s. On a personal note...

In our case, after a few years in CA (and later in FL), we voted with our feet and went back where we came from: the Pac NW.  We're partial to the 4 real seasons, climate and geology of OR, WA, and BC.  Unfortunately, many long-time Californians got the same idea, and are not only driving up R/E prices, but are also "Californicating" the NW.  Even Portland, which was a fantastic city, has been deluged with bums and weirdos.  I'm told that many desperate counties outside the state put bums on the bus and ship them up here -- given the relatively mild climate and generous social policies that came about during the bygone "Days of Wine & Roses".  They are now degrading the downtown, and an evening stroll in downtown Portland is not what it used to be.  Seattle is marginally better, but its downtown does not have the same soul, in spite of its greater fame.  Vancouver?  Hongcouver is great -- if you bought there 20 years ago or come in with millions -- but who can afford to move in now?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:28 | 5035931 John_Coltrane
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Does Taxas have an income tax?  No!!!  I believe Cali goes as high as 13%  How about restrictions on gun ownership and carry law? 

Yes, Texas is a bastion of freedom and liberty compared to Cali.  Its all relative you know!  I would never live in the People's Republic of California.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:24 | 5036317 deflator
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And that has what to do with drought?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:50 | 5036407 Tall Tom
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Not much.

 

But wait until they feel it in the pocketbook...

 

I will be laughing at them...all of the way to the bank.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:20 | 5037094 Miles Ahead
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@john_Coltrane.   But your church (of St. John Coltrane) is in California?  What's up with that?

Anyway, the best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pi5ZJZ07ME

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:22 | 5037097 Took Red Pill
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the cops in Texas are the worst! Call that freedom?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:49 | 5037135 SubjectivObject
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It's Monsters Incorporated in every State (that I've been).

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:13 | 5037432 hardmedicine
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YOU ASSHOLE.  Texas was a bastion of freedom until the yankees and all the liberals came in here.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:29 | 5037878 TheMerryPrankster
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But without so many trees, hot as fuck and lots of shittly little roads.

Texas is not paradise, its more like hell.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:25 | 5036632 Stuck on Zero
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I'm pretty sure now that California will suffer catastrophic floods next year.  Nature likes to evade prediction.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:44 | 5037051 sleigher
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It only has to rain an inch or so out there for the devastating mudslides.  Glad I am gone from that place.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:22 | 5036731 European American
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They'll spread like the disease that they are and will fuck up Washington, Idaho, Montana, Utah, etc.  They're already fucking up Texas of all places!"

 You're way out of step with the pulse of that Invasive Species. They ransacked Washington State in the late '80's.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:24 | 5036869 rogerramjet
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save_America1st,

PLAIN and simple!  Your just another uneducated stupid Redneck that never graduated from  HS and still lives at home w/ mommie......

 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:26 | 5037103 Miles Ahead
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@Save_America1st must be right.  And you must be a libtard or whatever he said.  Look at all the line space you were "entitled to" when you finished your comment.  That says a lot.  Edit that shit.  Delete all those lines; space is at a premium here.  And while you're at it spell 'your' like I just did.  (Get rid of those extra dots too... see? Three.)

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:44 | 5037501 Kirk2NCC1701
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roger, feeling ironic today?
It's "You're", not "Your".

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:21 | 5035328 RiderOnTheStorm
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The indians have a solution too.  But their way too busy selling firewater and fleecing the rest of America in their casinos . . . and have no time anymore for a few rain dances.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:29 | 5035703 max2205
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Good God, I hope those maggots don't move back east

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:30 | 5036152 jbvtme
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i've seen several california plates this summer. unusual and troubling

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:21 | 5035337 RiderOnTheStorm
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The indians have a solution too.  But their way too busy selling firewater and fleecing the rest of America in their casinos . . . and have no time anymore for a few rain dances.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:57 | 5036242 August
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Speaking on behalf of the residents of Washington, Oregon and British Columbia, let me just say that we stand ready to have all excess discharge of the Columbia and Fraser River systems diverted to help support California Living, the very pinnacle of mankind's cultural achievements.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:11 | 5036717 walküre
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No, we don't!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:47 | 5037511 Kirk2NCC1701
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Buddy, Angie is being sarcastic.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:11 | 5036843 giovanni_f
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We'll take it without asking you - but let me express that your consent gives us a warm feeling.

USSA

 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:36 | 5036361 mt paul
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Wally Hickle old alaskan governor

wanted to build a water pipeline to california

4 decades ago ...

 

people laughed...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:27 | 5036740 G-R-U-N-T
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Keep in mind, that the global warming, CO2 is a pollutant, tax the air humanity and industry exhales looting fraud is only a precursor to the loot-o-rama that will be achieved by the Kalifornia Assembly when it comes time to fine anyone that takes a bath or shower!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 19:01 | 5038869 Theo P Neustic
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Meanwhile, back in Kalifornia, the powers that be are getting set to build a 68 billion dollar high speed rail to nowhere.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:49 | 5035117 californiagirl
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That is why we should be buidling a water pipeline from Canada to California instead of wasting $100 billion plus on a bullet train that will forever require massive taxpayer subsidies.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:50 | 5035164 darkpool2
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not so fast there californiagirl.  lets have some good discussions about Keystone and other topics before you contemplate watering the lawn again......ever.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:44 | 5035429 Tall Tom
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Why is it that I read another ASSHOLE who thinks that since some of California is Liberal then that must be that all of California is Liberal?

 

That is because you are too busy autofellating (ooohhh...I forgot I am writing to the dense...that means SUCKING YOUR OWN COCK)....as you are SPINELESS...or a CONTORTIONIST....OR BOTH.

 

Now it is OBVIOUS that you are a FUCKING CONTORTIONIST as you like to twist and contort your reasoning...But the question which remains is DO YOU HAVE A SPINE?

 

Now I, like my buddy Dick Cheney, like to go out and HUNT...WITH GUNS. But you are probably such a pansy that you probably do not own any. I also like to create unstable concoctions.

 

So if you are so inclined perhaps you can come out HUNTING.

 

There are a lot of targets out here where I live.

 

Now I live at

 

12223B Woodside Ave. in Lakeside CA.

 

Here is how you make a simple concoction:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH6GpXAXmx8

 

Bring your guns...if you have one. Or, alternatively you can place that concoction between the Gas Meter and the Building in which I live...if you dare.

 

I am above the Pawn Shop.

 

Only one ZHer has had the guts to visit me and will be laughing at this post.

 

And FUCK OBAMA AND THE NSA...

 

And I want my Damned water so FUCK YOU.

 

Any other OUT OF STATE ASSHOLES WANT TO VISIT?

 

To anyone who upvoted his post...YOU ARE INVITED.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:45 | 5035452 Jab Cross Hook
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East County, represent!!!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:46 | 5035471 Tall Tom
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They do not know that East County is Redneck.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:51 | 5035494 Jab Cross Hook
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Everyone forgets CA gave us Nixon and Reagan... SD Sheriffs used to raid record stores for stocking Black Flag vinyl. Perspective does seem to fade.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:59 | 5035540 Meat Hammer
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Like I keep telling people who've never been here....California isn't a liberal state per se. We just have a ton of assholes who vote for their living as public-employee leeches or welfare leeches. Gay marriage being voted down is proof.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:07 | 5036592 vie
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Truth.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:34 | 5036651 whotookmyalias
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San Diego-ite here and very non-liberal.  NRA member, gold/silver/lead stacker and overall pretty cynical about govt/banksters/media and all the other liars and cheats.  I could turn tail and run or stay here and fight.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:54 | 5035520 Meat Hammer
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Man, I wished I still lived in SD County...I'd come visit.  I bought a table off of Craigslist from a yokel at a trailer park in Lakeside once. Very Redneck

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:56 | 5035529 Jab Cross Hook
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Did you remember to saw it in half, for the tasty, methy filling hidden inside?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:00 | 5035546 Meat Hammer
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LOL...No, but I still have it.  Hmmm......

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:11 | 5035611 Tall Tom
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Yer welcome out here anytime Meat Hammer. Always enjoyed your posts.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:31 | 5035940 Meat Hammer
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I thank you.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:29 | 5036805 tenpanhandle
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Don't forget to bring the table.  Tall Tom wants it back.  Seems he left something inside.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:59 | 5036833 Tall Tom
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I take tweakers out to the desert, nail 'em to a Palo Verde Tree, and leave 'em.

 

Hell the coyotes scatter them bones...

 

Did you know that 68% of all murders are solved?

 

That means you have a one in three chance of getting away with it.

 

Want to go hunting?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:46 | 5035464 Tall Tom
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We have a CHICKENSHIT DOWNARROW..who cannot respond...because they are a frightened PUSSY.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:59 | 5035539 LetThemEatRand
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Tall Tom.  How does this autofellating thing work?  I'm writing a paper.   Detailed instructions would be appreciated.  For the readers of my paper, and such.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:16 | 5035604 Tall Tom
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I do not know from anecdotal experience. Being a spineless piece of protoplasm seems to be the first thing. Or a contortionist.

 

Hell there is a picture of it on Wikipedia. Probably a selfie of darkpool2...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autofellatio#mediaviewer/File:Autofellatio6.jpg

 

Hope that this helps...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:22 | 5035661 LetThemEatRand
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Thanks for that.  My tab at NSA was almost full already, and I think this one put it over the top.  

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:25 | 5035675 Tall Tom
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They'll extend your line of credit. No worries.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:31 | 5035941 TuPhat
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I didn't think you were worth any response, Tall Tom.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:12 | 5036091 Tall Tom
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Well your hypocrisy is apparent as you have responded.

 

So what is yer problem?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:09 | 5036269 Tall Tom
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I will tell you my problem TuPhat...

 

You start off your response with a DISHONEST REMARK...like most SOCIALISTS. Then you lack a spine like most SOCIALISTS because yiou lack any CORE PRINCIPLES.

 

What does that do to yorr CREDIBILITY??? It destroys it.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:53 | 5036418 Tall Tom
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You must live in Austin with all of your other Socialist buddies.

 

Even George W. Bush hung out there awhile. He was a just another fuckin' socialist.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:24 | 5035915 acetinker
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Isn't that area generally known as the inland empire?  It never rains in California, but boy- don't they warn ya'.  It pours, man it pours!

What is it that you hunt out there Tom?  Prarie dogs?  I haven't been out that way for decades, but iirc, it's pretty much desert.

I'm not being a smartass.  I just wanna know what your prey is.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:23 | 5036298 Tall Tom
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No. The Inland Empire is East of Los Angeles.

 

That includes some of Riverside County, 100 miles North of where I am at. Interstate 15 runs through it as well as Interstate 10.

 

I am about 20 Miles North of the US Mexico Border as a crow flies. I am about 20 miles East of the Pacific Ocean ...East of La Jolla, CA.

 

It is more like Chapparal rather than the high desert of the Inland Empire. Lots of Mountains...lots of hills. It is in the Foothills of the Laguna Mountain Range.

 

So, no, you do not remember correctly.

 

And as for prey...There is Dove and Quail and Rabbit near me. But they do not allow hunting near me. So I generally have to trek on out to the BLM land near the Colorado River over East in Imperial County...

 

Small game.

 

Of course I have my Terrorist Hunting Pernit. There is no Bag Limit on those. Cost me One Dollar. Expires in 2051.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:30 | 5036332 acetinker
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I assumed you were hunting terrists, since there ain't a lot of game out there.  Just checking.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:09 | 5036463 Tall Tom
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You are mistaken. There is a lot of game out here. They just arrest you when they catch you shooting it.

 

When I was growing up out here I used to be able to go into the hills behind the neighborhood and shoot. The cops drove on by when I was walking down the road with the Shotgun. Never stopped me. Never said a word.

 

I used to be able to fish the streams and lakes. Again I had no problem.

 

That was 40 years ago. Times have changed for the worse.

 

The place where I live is subject to large Brush Fires. It is not like the barren Inland Empire. I have drove through Redlands and San Bernadino many times on my way back from Phoenix. That is on I-10.

 

I have drove up through the Cajon Pass , through Hisperia and Barstow, many times on my way to Las Vegas and back.

 

Nope. You have not been to East San Diego County. Chaparell is not Desert.

 

If you have been to Prescott Valley and Dewey in Arizona that is what this place is similar to. That ain't Desert either. That is in the foothills of the Bradshaw Mountain Range 90 Miles North of Phoenix.

 

Now Phoenix is like the Inland Valley...without the Joshua Trees.

 

Joshua Trees will not live where I am at.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:31 | 5036745 StychoKiller
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Bow/Arrows and traps are pretty much silent.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:01 | 5036836 Tall Tom
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Who wants silence? Go for it.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:18 | 5036860 giovanni_f
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These posts happen when facebook is down.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:03 | 5036255 August
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH6GpXAXmx8

Very cool stuff.  Looks kinda rayciss, though.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:20 | 5036487 Miffed Microbio...
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Ok, so I am waiting for this guy who visited you to post his experience and none is forthcoming. Either you have eaten his liver with a nice chianti or he doesn't exist. I think you are bullshitting us.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:03 | 5036841 Tall Tom
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Not into that cannibalism.

 

I prefer Swordfish sauteed in butter with Lemon Pepper. Perhaps a Steak with some Lobster?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:22 | 5036862 giovanni_f
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swordfish in "butter". Cazzo. OMG.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:51 | 5036901 Tall Tom
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Ever try it?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:46 | 5038139 malek
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Yeah sure.

Unfortunately the voting gets counted by head, not square-mile.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:55 | 5035196 kaiserhoff
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Oddly enough, the Canucks don't want to sell you any water.  They really are different.

I think selling water to people who live in a desert would be a great gig. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:08 | 5035265 Bindar Dundat
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I call "troll" bull shit on the above comment.  Canada has enough water for us and the U.S.A. and never once have I heard a politician nor official say it's bad policy to share.  This kind of shit response needs to be stopped -- where was the fucking number for the drone?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:19 | 5036861 Maxter
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Well let me tell you something.  I am canadian and i don't like the idea of selling our water like that.  

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:11 | 5035266 Bindar Dundat
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Found the number -- poof you are gone mother fucker!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:35 | 5035962 DeadFred
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Friday and beer, gotta love it.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:52 | 5036222 kaiserhoff
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The water pipeline has been kicked around as a proposal in Wall Street/Barrons for years.

Many Canadians don't trust big brother to the south.  I often share that opinion.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:05 | 5035243 JohninMK
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Perhaps someone ought to ask the advice of the Gadaffi's engineers. Unless it was propaganda, they pumped water hundreds of miles from under the Sahara.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:10 | 5035287 owensdrillin
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Maybe just build it from Portland where the Columbia dumps billions of gallons everyday. No mountains, just bury it along the coast. It's all from canada anyways so it's nice and clean.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:22 | 5035344 californiagirl
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Excellent idea!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:46 | 5035467 imapopulistnow
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The ecos would never allow it.  Some mollucsk might be offended by too salty water or some bullshit,

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:08 | 5035591 Meat Hammer
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The pols would never allow it!  What would they do without water politics?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:10 | 5035601 californiagirl
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Anyone that votes against additional water storage or sources should be the first to have their water cut off. 

South of here, in Morgan Hill and Gilroy, they are cutting off water from some farmers while office parks and golf courses still have nice green lawns.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:48 | 5035477 syntaxterror
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Great idea except for the fact that Oregonians absolutely detest California and they would fight this every step of the way. In fact, just about everyone hates California, so good luck getting help...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:37 | 5035972 DeadFred
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The Columbia flows through Hanford, WA doesn't it?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:04 | 5037266 Cathartes Aura
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sure does - ask Spastica Rex.

For more than 40 years, the U.S. government produced plutonium for nuclear weapons at the Hanford Site in south central Washington state. During that time, Hanford released radioactive elements and other materials into the Columbia River. (See map below.) From World War II until the early 1970s, the Columbia River downstream from Hanford "held the distinction of being the most radioactive river in the United States."

on y'go Kali, water your lawns 'n' crops. . .

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:15 | 5036479 Gift Whores
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Up river from Hanford.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:23 | 5035347 Jab Cross Hook
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Bingo. The "Brown Bullet" won't have anywhere to connect if we run out of agua first (not to mention drawing more sniper fire than a KBR-Iraqi fuel convoy at points between.).

The smart move would be to divert high-speed rail funding toward desalination plants all along the coast, and pipe that shit back into the inland aquifers/lakes.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:11 | 5035598 Meat Hammer
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That would be a solution when all "they" want is problems. 

 

Never

Gonna 

Happen

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:40 | 5035979 DeadFred
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Desalinized water is too expensive to water plam trees with. Without the lanscaping there's plenty of water in California. Oh, and you'd need to stop the farming as well.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:34 | 5035400 californiagirl
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My lawn is brown.  The fruit trees and vegetables get watered regularly.  Other plants receive very limited water.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:38 | 5036885 FreedomGuy
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Your governor likes Brown.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:26 | 5036738 European American
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Mexiforniachica, just drink from the Pacific.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:16 | 5036856 Maxter
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And why should we give you our water exactly?

Why not come leave here instead.  You would certainly be welcome!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:06 | 5035256 Landrew
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Yes, your backyard is the world.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:47 | 5036009 Abitdodgie
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Have they put a stop to car washing or wartering your plants , or resricted every household to 4 gallons a day NO , there is always a drought in CA who gives a fuck.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:22 | 5036864 gatorboat
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"Meanwhile, it rains almost every day in the North East."

Here in flyover country we're seeing October temps in July.  Seems last winter's "polar vortex" is still going, keeping central and east America cooler and wetter while keeping west America hotter and drier. 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:07 | 5037272 Cathartes Aura
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all that "weather" has to go somewhere.

no worries tho' - FatherGov has it all under control. . .

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:55 | 5037384 Uncle Remus
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.

Here in flyover country we're seeing October temps in July.

 

And enjoying it.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:56 | 5035819 balz
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The fact that there have been a Medieval Warm period does not mean that there is or there is not a global warming right now. But the fact that June was the 351 th month in a row with global temperatures over the average sure tells something...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:23 | 5035912 BigJim
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 Wow... National Geographic actually used the banned phrase "Medieval Warm period".

It's been such a global warming shill lately that I cancelled my subscription. Now I feel bad.

See! They do listen.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:47 | 5036395 mt paul
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i quit national geo

when they supported 

the 911 lie..

i.e... jet fuel collapse scenario..

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:23 | 5036732 G-R-U-N-T
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El Niño is just around the corner, so quit the panic crusade, besides all this sensationalism will only make the Sacramento Assembly loot the living shit out of every urinating Kalifornian!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 15:34 | 5038278 ZerOhead
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"Ocean" may be a bit misleading but that's how areas with quartz mineralization came about... deep water.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:22 | 5035007 Raymond K Hessel
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That's impossible. 

Everyone knows that global warming is only caused by humans and cows.  There weren't enough humans back then or not any cows for that sort of drought conditions to have happened.

It's only science if it supports the liberal environmentalism agenda, and then it's not when it doesn't attack humanity as the culprits.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:32 | 5035056 Sudden Debt
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Well, like grandpa use to say:
IF IT'S TO DRY, USE SOME SPIT ON IT!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:32 | 5035058 LetThemEatRand
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Just because I like downvotes, I will point out for the umpteenth time that you can have both naturally occurring weather patterns, and human factors that accelerate or decelerate them.  It is not an either or.  There is naturally occurring radiation that can kill you.  You can also dump a few tons of radioactive water into the ocean every day.  The fact that radiation exists naturally does not mean that dumping of radioactive water into the sea is a non-event.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:54 | 5035190 Save_America1st
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sure, but the majority of the "human factor" is caused by the fucking government.  Chemtrails, HAARP, nukes, etc.  Why does the fucking government get to fuck shit up and lie about it while at the same time making shit up like CO2 is bad for the environment just so they can tax the piss out of us for breathing???  You wanna reduce CO2?  Get rid of all the policitians, because they're the biggest source of toxic emissions in the history of the planet whenever they open their lying face holes. 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:10 | 5035281 Landrew
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The good news is, people don't fall for your paid troll Cock Brothers bullshit anymore.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:02 | 5035840 Tall Tom
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The best news is that you Socialist Cocksuckers that are paid, like yerself, don't have any impact whatsoever replying because you do not ever use any evidence to back yer claims.

 

So you revert to inane tactics of claiming that someone is a paid troll when...YOU ARE A PAID TROLL. Can you imagine that?

 

Now I know that LTER ain't a troll.

 

Although I may disagree with LTER I do have RESPECT. At least I get some educated debate and fun reads.

 

But as fer you???

 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:09 | 5035862 LetThemEatRand
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I will respond to your post in short order.  I'm still studying the .. thing.  That we discussed.  Earlier.   And trying to find the muscle relaxants.  I now understand why my dog is so mellow all the time.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:14 | 5035883 Tall Tom
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LMAO.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:11 | 5036281 syntaxterror
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"... Cock Brothers ..."

Cock brothers? Don't be hatin' on barack and reggie.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:58 | 5035206 worbsid
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LTER:  there also is a hell-of-a-lot of difference between radiation rays like sun rays or x-rays amd radiation particles that just keep giving and giving in a small area. X amount of plutonium is like X number of x-rays or standing in the sun for x hours ... no, not really.

I'm 81 in good health and happy for it but not happy for my grandkids. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:54 | 5037063 zeroheckler
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@LTERand

there are a lot of smart individuals on ZH. However, only a fraction are able to navigate between extreme views. You are one of them.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:53 | 5035795 SilverRhino
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I'm not sure why they think North Texas is in a drought.   We've gotten 2 FEET of rain in the last month.   It's 80 degrees here in AUGUST in Texas.   This morning it was 71 degrees.  

Whatever climate change has done .... keep it the fuck up.  We LIKE these polar vortex fronts coming down.   

Fortunately I live outside DFW so I dont have to deal with all the water restrictions and admittedly, we do have a SHITLOAD of immigrants from elsewhere in the USA moving into town.  

 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:40 | 5036888 FreedomGuy
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The important point is also that every solution involves more government, more rules, more taxes, more power, and more bureaucrats with fully funded pensions.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:53 | 5035157 californiagirl
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That is what they said last time we had a drought.  Life in California was going to be over and everyone was going to leave the state in droves.  But then came long periods of plentiful rain including El Nino years with flooding and massive building booms as more and more people came to the state.

They haven't even made us stop watering lawns yet and we cans till wash out cars as long as we have a shut-off nozzle on the hose.  Everywhere you drive you see beautiful green, sprawling lawns, particularly in commercial areas and parks.

Rain varies widely.  5 years ago it rained over 30 inches at my house.  Last year it rained 3.5 inches. The problem is that the government and people forget this and then keep expanding the population, never planning for the limitations of bad rain years.  We need more reservoirs and a water pipeline from Canada.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 18:00 | 5035226 mrs
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Yes - Yes - Yes - also a California girl and you speak from experience and observation. Dunno how old you are, but this is my 3rd catastrophic drought where we all die and everything goes to hell. 

Then we get rid of the communists and the state recovers. I hope.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:44 | 5036548 misnomer
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Our government sold you power when you had none, and we got royally screwed over by some lawyers who decided you Californians paid too much per watt.  Should've left you in the fucking dark.

No way would the westcoasters let a pipeline be built that pipes our water to you.  The natives and greenies would be protesting en masse. You can't fart in this province without some enviro eccentric calling you out for poisoning the ozone.  Good luck with them, they are rabid up here.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:31 | 5036646 TheMeatTrapper
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"They haven't even made us stop watering lawns yet and we cans till wash out cars as long as we have a shut-off nozzle on the hose.  Everywhere you drive you see beautiful green, sprawling lawns, particularly in commercial areas and parks."

Sounds like paradise where "they" can order us to let our grass die, but we are so fortunate that "they" allow us to water our grass.

Let me explain something. If you can't provide a resource (food, water, security) for yourself then you are DEPENDENT upon others for that - and they can then DICTATE to you the terms for your survival. 

If you "need" a pipeline from Canada for a drink of water, I'd politely suggest that you are fucked and need to move.

May your chains rest lightly upon you and your fellow Californications. 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:44 | 5036819 El Vaquero
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^^ Gets it.  The pitcher pump is going in this month or next.  No fucking permits are being pulled.

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