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The Drought Goes From Bad To Catastrophic
As we previously commented, when scientists start using phrases such as "the worst drought" and "as bad as you can imagine" to describe what is going on in the western half of the country, you know that things are bad. However, in recent weeks the dreadful situation in California has gone from bad to catastrophic as the U.S. Drought Monitor reported that more than half of the state is now in experiencing 'exceptional' drought, the most severe category available. And most of the state – 81% – currently has one of the two most intense levels of drought.
h/t @TimOBrien
While California’s problems are particularly severe, that state is not alone in experiencing significant drought right now. There are wide swaths of moderate to severe drought stretching from Oregon to Texas, with problems impacting numerous states west of the Mississippi River.
Some of the most severe droughts outside of California are impacting large pockets in Oklahoma, Texas and, particularly, Nevada, where more than half of the state is currently experiencing one of the two most intense drought conditions:
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Most people just assume that this drought will be temporary, but experts tell us that there have been "megadroughts" throughout history in the western half of the United States that have lasted for more than 100 years.
If we have entered one of those eras, it is going to fundamentally change life in America.
And the frightening thing is that much of the rest of the world is dealing with water scarcity issues right now as well. In fact, North America is actually in better shape than much of Africa and Asia. For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled "25 Shocking Facts About The Earth’s Dwindling Water Resources".
Without plenty of fresh water, modern civilization is not possible.
And right now, the western United States and much of the rest of the world is starting to come to grips with the fact that we could be facing some very serious water shortages in the years ahead.
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California must have bad karma, we have plenty of water on the east coast.
/ lol
Edit: when you start fucking around with the ecosystem, mother nature will bite back.
Are we all caught in a predestination paradox until we can find a way to escape it?
WTC 1 & 2 were brought crashing down killing everyone. Just like the twin pillars at the entrance to the pagan Philistine temple were brought down by Samson
and we now have
Japan (Home of Gamera- sarc) brought down by nuclear fire (Gomorrah) & California (home of Sodomy) brought down by the Sun's fire (Sodom) surrounded by the new Dead Sea (Pacific Ocean)
I wish the guys out in TX & OK would move their cloud seeding operations a hundred miles west of CA...that way, they would quit drowning the rest of us. It is Aug. 1 and the spring rains haven't quit yet.
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Let California dehydrate, it's the best way to kill off progressives without shooting a bullet.
hell No. They're all moving to texas. We have enough problems with the illegals from Mexico (and now Obama immigrants from Honduruas and central America,)
Are the grasslands still green?
duplicate
Building cities of the scale of Las Vegas and Phoenix in the desert was bound to come back and bite them in the ass. Even the population of growth of Southern California in the last century looks increasingly tenuous on a long term basis (measured in something greater than a century).
I blame Bush for this drought.
Sounds like there will be wagon trails of settlers headin back East. Hope the natives are not as hostile as the Indians were.
Thought the US government had cracked the cloud seeding for rain?
CA has enough water to allow 20M gallons of water to flow freely through UCLA campus.
Good one, did the city fine itself $500 dollars? To other ZH Members, we are talking about Sunset Blvd.
I'd guess the City of Los Angeles has funded itself for another 5 years by issuing several million dollars in fines to itself, and then selling those unpaid fines to collection agencies.
there rily smart there and so yea you know its kool. - Chad, Phd, UCLA (if it's like, from a hilltop).
I read where June 2014 was considered the hottest month on record. Oddly I live in a state that the last few years have been scorchers and had a rougher than usual winter. This summer however has been as mild a summer as I've ever experienced in this state.
One thing I have noticed is that the area I live in along with Oklahoma and MO have generally endured many thunderstorms, tornado's, hail storms etc... This year nary a one. Rain yes, threatening weather, no. Seems like traditional tornado alley has moved north up to CO. Just a personal observation with zero science.
People discounting the seriousness of drought because it may be far less enduring than they have stated here (which is certainly hyperbole). Thing is, a CA drought only has to endure a few years to wreak significant economic damage. You think foodstuffs are expensive now? Give it 5 years and talk to me.
Phoenix rainfall totals in the HOT summer are all over the map.
Monsoons they call them here.
From July 3rd
Rainfall totals as of 5:30 a.m.
(Alex CoJones Rain gauge .10 inches)
Ahwatukee: :04
Avondale: .04 inches
Buckeye: .08 inches
Casa Grande: .28 inches
Central Phoenix - .31 inches
Chandler: .87 inches
Sky Harbor .12 inches
El Mirage: .43 inches
Glendale: .12 inches
Lake Pleasant Regional Park: .24 inches
New River: .04 inches
Peoria: .28 inches
Queen Creek: .16 inches
South Mountain: .17 inches
Sun City West: .28 inches
Surprise: 1.5 inches
Tempe: .12 inches
Waddell: .35 inches
White Tank Mountain Regional Park: .83 inches
Hmmm...What is Mesa's totals?
Chandler seem a little wet. Somewhat tropical on the East Side?
Guess they never heard of DESALINIZATION PLANTS, huh?.
Very very expensive, but may be no option in a couple of yrears.
Where is all the oil from Iraq going now... I guess china. All those soldiers and injuries and deaths... for what again?
Went to Costco near Sacramento today. The bottled-water section, which is normally stacked like a cord of firewood and missing 4 or 5 flats at the most, was 1/3 full. I filled up the shopping cart and will probably go back for another round.
I could supply you with excellent water. But, my wells are in VT. Make a deal with someone in rural northern CA or Oregon to truck 1,000 gallons to you in a large drop-off plastic container. They would have to give you a water test certificate - but, then you could lay off the excess water to neighbors and friends and family in 5 gallon buckets - your situation may very well come down to that. I wish you good luck.
That makes way too much sense. The New Bolshevik government in CA, particularly Boxer and Feinstein will put the kabash on that as it circumvents NB government control.
Can't wait for the exquisite graffitti on that CA bullet train.........
I have lived in the NE for 70 years.
In 2012, my large pond in Southern Vermont was drawn down 5 feet on this day. In 2014, it is overflowing.
At my place in Northern NJ, we are having one of the coolest summers in the past 20 years. Possibly not the wettest. But, when the weeds along the roadside are green in August, you know that there has been sufficient moisture and the absence of punishing heat. I turned my a/c off last week. Normally, NJ has suffocating humidity in late summer - not in 2014.
I did drill 3 water wells in Vermont - pretty much like banking bullion.
But but... ZH'ers don't believe in scientists and don't even grasp the idea that water can be a finite resource!
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/sean-long/2014/03/19/noaa-scientist-disagre...
I was in CA during the drought in the late 70's. They were urging people to put bricks in their toilet tanks and to stop watering their lawns.
Then one day the skies opened up and rain came pouring down in sheets. And the floods began.
CA either has droughts or flooding. There aren't many "normal" years.
But there are more people now.
California always was a desert, its just the reality distortion field has lost power.
http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2014/07/climate-change-hits-hard-in-nev...
yes i always knew my house in Vermont would be worth a billion dollars someday.
As already said, it's midsummer, no rain falls here in the summer, so how could it have gotten worse? We're actually getting a few more midsummer sprinkles than usual.
And we're being promised an El Nino which might end the drought by about New Years.
Of course we need at least half a dozen major desal plants along the coast, that would supply urban water at urban prices, and free up at least a little for inland farming. For the rest of the inland agriculture, well, that's where it really hits, desal is too expensive for 98% of farming - unless food prices are doubled. Maybe if the thorium reactors get built, it would make desal cheap enough.
Food prices have already doubled since QE began, and the DOW is only 3% off record highs. So let them double again. The poor and what remains of our "middle class" is very resilient. They can suck it up-get by with more credit card debt -we all know that if the rich keep getting richer -it will eventually trickle down to allow most of the rest of us schmucks wil be able to survive. That's our economic model. BTFD and then BTAFH. Yellen has your back -
This is not a catastrophe.
A catastrophe is when people are dieing of thirst.
TOTAL FAIL
You'll find out when your produce food bills explode this autumn.
Then you will feel it in your wallet.
Yes, a drought isn't dangerous until there actually isn't enough drinking water for people to survive. Very bright.
Fortunately our wise Liberal Democratic leadership has constructed the necessary infrastructure to meet this kind of emergency - including state of the art desalinization plants and use of the Corps of Engineers that borders on genius !! A lesser government would have spent trillions on genocidal wars for crappy little Chosenites.
No wait, I was confusing the situation with Mussolini's draining of the malria infested Pontine marshes.
Never mind. Duce ! Duce!
Why the Corps Of Engineers? The private sector can handle everything better than publicly funded infrastructure projects /sarc
Fortunately our wise Liberal Democratic leadership has constructed the necessary infrastructure to meet this kind of emergency - including state of the art desalinization plants and use of the Corps of Engineers that borders on genius !! A lesser government would have spent trillions on genocidal wars for crappy little Chosenites.
No wait, I was confusing the situation with Mussolini's draining of the malria infested Pontine marshes.
Never mind. Duce ! Duce!
Yes indeedy do BlussMann. Their cronies are too busy building more golf courses in the desert! (See my comment above). Tiger Woods got 20 Million for his name on a golf course in Dubai. His karma went to hell in a handbasket. We must keep hope alive!
Or chosen to build a 10 Bil high speed rail line between Bakersfield and Modesto ... or where ever is the Route de Jour
Come to Europe (or go to China) and see how terrible high speed rail lines are. People can go on a train from Geneva to Paris in three hours. Oh no! Government oppression! My rights are being trampled! Glad I have high speed rail where I live.
The public transportation network in Switzerland is awesome - tons of trains, trolleys, gondolas, buses and boats, all partially funded by national and cantonal (state) governments.
And Switzerland has a 55% gov't debt to GDP ratio - about half of the US'. So, anyone who says that there's not enough money for good public transportation in a developed nation may not be familiar with the example of Switzerland.
A high speed line between LA and San Francisco would be great, especially as oil gets more and more expensive. Could be very good for economic development.
Why does California always seem to have a drought when Jerry Brown is governor?
The possible El Nino that could have brought record winter rains is not developing as expected. The next few weeks offer not much chance for real rainfall in California. Their only real hope is an El Nino. Right now we can't say that one will develop, thus the drought looks set to burn on for more months.
History does show long preiods of SW drought. It seems crystal clear from paleo climate studies that California was turned from a frontier area into one of the worlds largest economies, if it were a serpeate country, during a period of RECORD WET climate cycle. This means, if we get a regular cyclical shift to dry, as always happens at some point, then California is fucked. Remember all those cities were built up in a proven period of record rainfall and snow packs. Normal is dry, drought is cyclical. The economic miracle of California agriculture could end as we have known it for a century.Liberal water use in the mega cities of LA and Frisco will be ancient history. The economic losses will be massive.
If you can't grow a row of potatoes in your yard, try to move.
When the Olympics were in Beijing didn't the Chinese shoot missiles in the atmosphere and make it rain before hand? Am I misremembering? I thought it was some kind of silver iodide to "seed" to induce rain before the Olympics then do something else to ensure that it didn't rain during the festivities.
Now if they have done shit like this, are we to believe the US government hasn't been fooling around with some version of this for decades? Perhaps they have done it and it has affected the atmosphere in a negative fashion so in reality we are experiencing "man made climate change". Just not for the reasons the government wants us to believe. Ok if this is plausible then wouldn't it be in the best interest of California for the US government to "make it rain" like the Chinese? What motive would they have for not doing what the Chinese have done?
Full disclosure: I'm not saying I believe the Chinese were successful but to flatly state that the US government hasn't experimented with this for decades would be naive. Maybe their activities have been the cause of certain super storms and weather extremes? Yes I know I'm now wearing a tin foil hat and eating hot pockets in a basement or my tumors are really kicking in. I am accept that I will be colored a nut job after expressing this point of view. That's ok I can live with it.
Climotologicaly, much of Kali is a dry place. Technology can ameliorate such things only so far. Let's just hope a 9.8 happens with a rush of ocean water before too long. Don't want 38 million of those scumbuckets moving East. Great for the Electoral College as well.
Actually, I think hyperfine clouds of powdered dry ice, as in CO2, work fairly well. But that still requires a certain H2O content in the atmosphere to cause much rain. Might help. Not sure.
HAARP
Chemtrails bitchez
http://youtu.be/7C5TFTkblKQ
From the "Internationalists" to the Ukraine to the drought in California and environs, check out this bit of news from the Guanacaste, Costa Rica, also enduring a severe lack of the wet stuff.... Crony Capitalism at it's most pathetic: http://www.amcostarica.com/073114.htm#31 And I thought Joe Biden was a regular guy who took the train everyday! Go figure. Tee one up for the Boner you traitor (to every country on which you clowns have ever set foot!)
No biggie, vegtables will double or triple. We've planted our own in scale for the first time. Even growing potatoes. GLTA
Allow me to shut up and let this guy do the talking. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS VIDEO and you live in California, don't worry, most of the population is perfectly willing to take it square on the cerebral-cortex-absent cranium,...because their salaries are dependent on it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34U0Pwz4_c
Please comment (but only assuming you've already viewed the video).
Dedicated to the guy whose pond is overflowing in New Jersey (MY DAYS ARE GET...) below.
You ask me to listen to professor Irwin Cory's son trying to sound serious for a whole hour?
I didn't mean YOU Bessy!
Riduculous to worry about this.
There's an Ocean bordering CA.
If this is the start of a mega-drought we will be de-salinating soon.
That was multiuseless rediculousness! Does your Daddy own a Bank in Orange County?
I guess we can all learn to live drinking salt water. The alternative is shower once a month (Palestinians have adapted to this) don't water lawns (will cut back on paying illegals $30 a week to cut our grass) and cut back on whatever indiustry and manufacturing we have left. We can also cut back on meat consumption (cows need water and grass) and grain consumption by 50% - we eat too much anyway. We do need to preserve enough water for beer production -otherwise we face an imminent revolution.
Desalination takes a lot of energy, Guess what that will be in short supply soon too.
I got an idea, decrease the population by 50%. Those left may have enough water.
We have unlimited access to energy, simply no will to implement.
That, and the new technology for desalinization does not take much energy.
this would never have happened if the environmentalists didn't cry and piss their diapers every fkn time someone wants to build a dam to protect against and plan for these situations.
do you really think farmers in Cali are that stupid? no! the dams were not built for bullshit reasons.
I has been environmentalists that have been preventing the building of desalination plants along the Pacific Coast all these years.
Now they're being built, just as the mess from Fuckushima arrives.
San Bernardino, CA. Seven Oaks dam was built with the promise that it would retain fresh water that could then be dispersed, i.e. controlled in times of drought. In 2004 a cut off low pressure system brought over a weeks full of rain, the dam filled with with muddy water and the water was deemed absolutley useless for potable use. Except for land developers, the area has seen zero benefit from this dam being built.
Instead, the dam has allowed the Santa Ana river to trickle its way to the Pacific, allowing for ever expanding "developments" on river side properties (while the county suffers from one of the highest commercial vacancy rates, new developments keep being built). There are warehouses popping up where 50 years ago the area would be subdued by seasonal water flow. This dam was built for bullshit reasons, to line the pockets of developers, not to save drinking water.
Dams are definitely important. So is the water that flows into the reservoirs created by those dams. Right now, there's no snow in the Sierras. Is that the fault of environmentalists? They are the ones who are calling for long-term action to mitigate climate change.
The western US is one of the more sensitive areas in the US to increases in average global surface temp. It wouldn't take much to make the Western US much drier. While we can't pin any one drought, heat wave or superstorm to climate change, we can say that as climate change continues, these events get more likely.
displaced california farmers are packing up and moving to oklahoma
In the 1970s, didn't they announce they could control the weather?
Big Players Promote Water Privatizationhttp://www.truth-out.org/news/item/25308-big-players-promoting-water-privatization
HAARP's Geoengineering Weather Manipuluation Freak Show
http://winteractionables.com/?p=13494
knew there had to be a joo involved in this mess.
I mssed the part about the loss of power when the turbines stop turning at the dams.
This is big, maybe you could cover this and how we will compensate for this loss in another carticle.
The Colorado river dams generate 4.2GW when there is water . . . not so much without water.
California's hydro-power generates about 10,500 megawats . . . same problem, not so much power without water.
4.2 GIGAWATTS!! 4.2 GIGAWATTS!! gREAT SCOTT,
How could we have been so careless? 4.2 GIGAWATTS!, Tom how am I going to generate that kind of power? It can't be done, can it?
Flux capacitors work so much better ....
Come to Europe. We have one the worst summers that I can remember. Rain, rain, rain and more rain in some parts of Europe. And in between the rains, more rain.
joe, out of curiosity, which part of europe? i'm in extremadura, spain, and we had lots of rain in the winter (as it should be, mediterranean climate) but have already had two months of lovely mildish summer, 30c-35c. in my experience, northern europe (& uk) often has lousy summers, indeed, sometimes they don't have what you'd call summers, at all.
It is pretty wet in the coastal areas though
http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2014/07/us-coastal-flooding-on-rise-us.html
Read the book "Cadillac Desert" last drought lasted 200 yrs the one before 140 yrs, climate change here was rain for 80 yrs. LA never should have been, or Las Vegas. Its a desert.
I live in Southern CA, and its hotter/dryer than the dickens here! I also sell produce at various farmers markets and many of the prices have increases due to increased water costs at the farms. Its only going to get worse. I hear farm owners talking about pump or water problems all the time.
I love my native state, the Republic of California. I have visited many states in lower 48, Ohio valley,Texas,New England,old south etc. none compare to the awesome ,diverse and majestic beauty of California...not to mention WE are definitly smarter and better looking than the rest of you. We will acquire all the fucking water we need, rest assured.
Cheers
If you love your state you can keep the POS that has produced some of the dumbest mother fucking politicians in the world including Pelosi, Boxer, and Brown... Fucking clown state...
+1000
What about pig-face, Henry Waxman?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Henry_Waxman_11...
Ballsy but stupid.
We all know that the leftist state of Communist Kalifornia will be whining and demanding everyone in America bail you out because you want to live in an F'ing desert.
How about you take all your leftists politicians and keep them in Kalifornia and the rest of America will think about bailing out your politicians years of stupidity, which by the way they try and impose on everyone else in America.
This is just going to keep getting worse over time. In Colorado where I live we've gotten our first non-drought year in three years. No subdivisions burned down or anything this year. Looks like it's just California's turn now. Oh well, it'll be ours again soon enough anyway. Just let me know folks when you start to see the Okies comin' down Cali-for-nee way.
Most of the river is allocated based on methods drawn up in the 1930's. Like other water pacts, they implement the "use it nor lose it" rule. Also 80% of the water goes to irrigating low value, thirsty crops in places like the Imperial valley. This was necessary when we didn't have the technology to import food from around the globe and it had to be grown near population centers.
When things get really tough the States will declare force majeure and take the farmers water. We will stop growing rice and alfalfa in the desert and follow the lead of the Israelis. And then and only then will rational change happen.
It's a bitch when you know the truth. Do we have a mega drought? Hell yes. But the solution is simple with correct pressure applied on the multimillionaire farmers sitting on billions of dollars of future transferrable water rights.
Farmers pay a few dollars per acre foot of water and grow food under grandfathered rights. Cities pay up to $4.00 per 1,000 gallons and generate perhaps 100 times the state tax revenue and GDP compared to farmers. As long as this exists there will be "distortions". No kidding.
Somehow, reducing rice and alfalfa production by perhaps 50% to save our cities seems a reasonable short term solution. Or like the cable guy says, " you can't fix stupid".
Crops are "low value" as long as you are overfed. BTW Zen, are you a government clerk?
What good are "water rights" when there is NO water?
The Colorado River basin and Oglalla aquifers are being bled dry - and unless it rains excessively for DECADES, they will be impossible to restore.
Currently these aquifers are the ONLY thing that keep the Colorado, Platte, Arkansas and western other rivers flowing at all. When these aquifers are fully depleted, these rivers will LITERALLY STOP FLOWING and there will be NO UNDERGROUND WATER (aka, an "aquifer") to pump for water.
Don't you get it?
The issue now is NOT the proper allocation of water. at what price. The current threat is a TOTAL LOSS of the west's water supplies - both above and below ground.
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For over 40 years some many water-resource specialists have warned of this danger.
Even non-scientists such as author James Michener sopke of this problem in his novel "Centennial", for which he consulted with geologists and water-resource specialsts. They warned of the drying up of the entire Colorado River basin, along with the North Platte, South Platte and Arkansas rivers - and the rapid depletion of the Oglalla Aquifer. When the book was made into a 12-part TV series "Centennial", part of the last episode was devoted to his very problem. (In fact, if you know much about the history of the Colorado area, you will note that almost every character in this novel is based on a REAL person in history; such as Michener's "Major Mercy" was in fact a real Army officer named Silas Soul.)
For these same 40 years some people (especially Lyndon LaRouche - whom I consider slightly "nuts") have advocated buildng massive pipelines from Alaska and western Canada to bring water to both the eastern and western slopes of the Rocly Mountains, including California.The underground aquifers of the Colorado River basin and the Oglalla Aquifer of Colorado-Wyoming-etc. are rapidly being depleted and that water in these aquifer is almost impossible ro replace. And, under drought conditions such as today, they are ALL that keeps these rivers flowing at all!
People like Lyndon LaRouche have been ridiculed (sometimes justfiably) for some of their ideas - but on this issue Lyndon LaRouche has been right for 40-plus years. However, politcians bought off by "special interest" groups (primarily the oil companies) have focused on oil and natural gas, rather than water. "Just because someone is 'crazy' does NOT mean that he is not right once in a while."
Screw the Keystone Pipeline and its shale oil from Canada! The U.S. government (at government expense with NO "privatization") had better get started on building these WATER PIPELINES from Alaska and western Canada into the U.S. BEFORE California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah and Nevada become wastelands.
"...it is going to fundamentally change life in America."
I thought we were importing diseased savages from Latin America for that purpose. Now I'm confused...
Even the summer orthographic lift that occurs in the inland southern CA mountain regions isn't producing much rain. The thunderheads that used to rise up and create violent mountain rain storms each summer are producing nothing but electrical activity in the form of wind and lightning. Very little rain so far.
One good lightning strike and some of these mountain ranges go up like tinder boxes.
In the meantime, golf courses and casinos in 115f Coachella Valley/Palm Springs area are still green as can be. I wouldn't be surprised if those fvcktards drained their water table by now. Now that area is a fvcking disaster by design, just like Ass Vegas.
This is the results of leftists in charge - like, DC, Chicago, Detroit and Kalifornia.
in 2014 CA Dept of water resources & the federal gvot intentionally dumped enough water for 500,000 families fora year into the Southern Desert to see if it flowed downhill like the last time we had a 50 year flood, it did.
up north they diverted water from low storage reservoirs to the ocean, an unknown quantity they claim to protect Salmon habitat (whichh normally dries up in droughts).
CA Salmon are being annihilated because of a sea lion ban on hunting, ignoring the 400,000 year old human sea lion hunting relationship, the sea lions are also annihilating the local fish stock as well as growing a massive great White Shark herd.
CA Salmon are being annihilated because of a sea lion ban on hunting, ignoring the 400,000 year old human sea lion hunting relationship, the sea lions are also annihilating the local fish stock as well as growing a massive great White Shark herd.
LMAO That would be a School, not a herd. lmao...unless it's gotten so dry that the sharks have moved inland.
Actually dude, Smitty is correct.
A group of sharks can be called 'a gam, herd, frenzy, school or shiver.'
But Smitty is wrong on why they are being annihilated; they are being annihilated because leftist morons run Kalifornia.
They are often pulled up by water spouts and later fall into active tornados. I saw it on TV. It was called "Sharknado". I believe it was a documentary on the National Geographic channel. Incredible footage of a man on the deck of a ship being sucked up like a Slurpee by a Great White. The only way to stop a Sharknado is with a propane tank, a flare, a smoke detector and a lighter, appearently, for all intensive purposes.
Box of Rain
let's not forget JPM wants to trade water. Since they manipulate every market and give how important water is to everyone - someone in congress should do the only right thing and push for a no.
Don't forget the CARLYLE GROUP, one of the companies in which the Bush family has a huge stake. THey have been buying up millions of acres of land with lakes and rivers (controlling all downstream flow) in South and Central America, as well as water rights for huge areas within entire countries! T. Boone Pickens has been spending BILLIONS of dollars buying up water right in the American Southwest.
In many western states, under their "water rights" laws, it is illegal to capture ansd store rain water for personal use For example, people i Arizona and New Mexico have been successfully prosecuted for collecting rain water from the roofs of their homes, then storing it in barrels or cisterns to water their lawns and gardens.
Everyone has the natural right to water, especially if it falls on YOUR land. That rain water is produced ny nature; and not by the labor of another person. Under international commercial law, the man who gives VALUE to something gains ownership. Therefore, the person who collects rain water is the person who gives it value via his labor, so that rainwater is rightfully his property. Same for the man who digs a well on his property.
Water rights (such as water from a river or aquifer) in which NO man provided any labor (value) based on prior historic usage are INSANE !!!!
print water, bitchez
Whats wrong with a pipeline from lake michigan.
Or will that upest too many fucking rare insects
For openers, that's my Lake. But it's still a shame that geography is no longer taught in school.
I didn't vote you down. Your own comment must have done it.
distance for one
take the water from the winter melt from the rockies - it's done in Europe in the Alps
best tasting water in the world
That is ALREADY done !!!!
The snow melts with the water flowing into the various tributaries of the Colorado River.
Where in HELL did you think that "snow melt" went? To New Jersey?
The problem is that the SNOWFALL, along with rainfall, has been far below normal for years. THe ONLY reason the Colorado River contains any water at all is because it is also fed by underground aquifers, which are rapidly depleting.
calm yourself - take your meds
the water is collected in the mountain and piped down - in Europe
not aware that was the case in Colorado
when in doubt in future, inquire
The Continental Divide
Look into it, Jackhole.
Although Lake Michigan is the only lake of the Great Lakes which is totally within U.S. territory, its water usage is regulated by several treaties with Canada. Which makes sense, since the water levels of the other great lakes are influenced by the water levels in Lake Michigan.
F' Kalifornia and their leftist crap they attempt to cram down the rest of Americas throat.
If they would keep Pelosi and her ilk in Kalifornia we might think about it.
Paul Krugman, aka The Martingale Man, doesn't even mention the drought in a recent column that claims "Left Coast Rising"
http://412libertarian.com/who-needs-water-the-martingale-man-declares-le...
Not to worry. Since the feds shut down farming in the Central Valley we get much of our produce from South America and Mexico now. But I am very concerned that there won't be enough water to irrigate the golf courses that Obama plays on in CA.
Don't worry, you'll get use to drinking your own pee. It's an aquired taste.
http://rt.com/usa/177520-california-ukraine-obama-military/
Never mind, California National Guard is to garrison the new US Colony of Ukraine.........hope Luke Skywalker can get the Stormtroopers and protect the rebels from the Deathstar
Rhetorical question but why in the hell do we keep training and equiping armys around the world that then we have to fight or they go on to destroy or fight others in US interests?
This should slow down all those illegal melon pickers. Always a silver lining.
6.8% of California's populace are illegal aliens.
Let's get to the root of the problem,
50% reduction in population
Suggest you start with the leftists who are destroying America.
Mother Nature I think is going to be a little more even handed. She will cut straight across the board.
Jeezus I am so tired of the leftist vs Rightist false dichotomy bullshit.
You mean the leftist that voted in numb nuts Obama/Biden?
Or
You mean the Rightists that vote in numb nuts Bush/Cheney?
This is total BS. I've never been to shithole California, but I can tell you that we've been hearing this drought bull shit and running out of water for how fucking long now? All you have to do is log onto USDA aerial photo satellite site and look for yourself. In the biggest area of drought you'll see golf courses and lawns that look like the Garden of Eden and last I looked there wasn't a single swimming pool not full to the brim. Hell...I live in Southern Illinois where we are in a flash drought at the moment and our crops ae burning up...and my swimming pool will evaporate an inch or two a day....Water restrictions in Cal in most areas are asking folks to conserve 10-20% of their usage....and they're still watering their fucking grass? Something doesn't add up here.
You are correct sir! The Long Grift's main focus is keeping the reservoirs low, as "proof". I'd like to get the individual water authority people who have been bought off in front of an actual judge (if there are any left). Perhaps we should audit the finances of Dept. of Water and Power empolyees?
An old fashioned investigative journalist (if there are any left) could research just HOW the press releases are introduced, and who's paying for them.
This Long Grift and the Long Grift trying to privatize Social Security REALLY piss me off.
You've never been to California?
That's a draught, of sorts, that we hope will continue.
You get what you pay for. San Diego, where I live is worth a little more money than living in the the Midwest and East Coast wastelands that some of you green with envy California haters are doing your life sentences in.
I busted out of that cell years ago, and let me tell you, it's paradise.
Carlsbad, where I live, north of Sean Diego, has the largest desalination plant in the Northern Hemisphere finishing up next year. Oasis, anyone?
Bill Gates would love to see a 50% reduction in population as long as his family is not part of that reduction.
Russian and US labs have numerous pathogens that can wipe out more than 50% of the population in California. Of course it wouldn't stop at CA. It would spread to other states and countries.
Ebola may end up being that disease with only a 10% survival rate.
Gates and Ebola in the same post. Brings Windows 7 to mind. Why would they fly two bloated carcases to Atlanta, treating one in a public hospital? The oligarchs are about to launch their Georgia Guidestones cull.
Please, please don't let them benefit from this plan. Better to stop them. You idiots who are part of it will be strapped to a dead body as it explodes its viral spores into your every orifice. By then it will be too late to rethink what you are doing.
Over 40 years some many water-resource specialists warned of this danger.
Even non-scientists such as author James Michener sopke of this problem in his novel "Centennial", for which he consulted with geologists and water-resource specialsts. THey warned of the drying up of the entire Colorado River basin, along with the North Platte, South Platte and Arkansas rivers - and the rapid depletion of of Oglalla Aquifer. (In fact, if you know much about the history of the Colorado area, you will note that almost every character in this novel is based on a REAL person in history; such as Michener's "Major Mercy" was in fact an Army officer named Silas Soul.)
For these same 40 years some people (especially Lyndon LaRouche - whom I consider slightlt "nuts") have advocated buildng massive pipelines from Alaska and western Canada to bring water to both the eastern and western slopes of the Rocly Mountains, including California.The underground aquifers of the Colorado River basin and the Oglalla Aquifer of Colorado-Wyoming-etc. are rapidly being depleted and that water in these aquifer is almost impossible ro replace. And, under drought conditions such as today, they are ALL that keeps these rivers flowing at all!
People like Lyndon LaRouche have been ridiculed (s0metimes justfiably) for some of their ideas - but on this issue Lyndon LaRouche has been right for 40-plus years. However, politcians bought off by "special interest" groups (primarily the oil companies) have focused on oil and natural gas, rather than water.
Screw the Keystone Pipeline and its shale oil from Canada! The U.S. government (at government expense with NO "privatization") had better get started on building the WATER PIPELINES from Alaska and western Canada into the U.S. BEFORE California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah and Nevada become wastelands.
When I was young, the biggest concern scientists seemed to have was overpopulation of human beings on planet earth as we have tools and like to construct when we are not busy destroying each others edifices.
Then the focus changed to global warming, climate change and so on.
Now we hear of wars and droughts.
I remember taking off from Chicago in the late seventies, as the plane reached its cruising altitude I was amazed that as far as I could see I saw city lights. A lot of people, concrete, vehicles, energy used for only one city, one city among thousands on this planet.
Me thinks the scientists of yore be correct. There are just too many of us and natural selection will cure the problem eventually as resources become finite and unattainable.
before there was the population bomb, there was Rachael Carsons Silent Spring, which just turned 50. i have been around that long, to remember when there were few hawks, or pelicans, and the food fish in the ocean had disappeared. now we have schools of anchovies coming up to the edge of the water. its remarkable. people complain about the sea lions, who come for the abalone, and the food fish, and the great white sharks who come for the sea lions. and yes there are more people but there is also more diversity, but the hysteria about over population, chemicals and environmental balance was correct. now maybe there is room for 8B people, but we shouldn't forget how important bringing this issue to public attention was in doing that.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/09/silent_...
Chemtrails bitchez
http://youtu.be/7C5TFTkblKQ
3 inches the other night in Huestown.
[3 in. outside, 6 in. inside ... same night .... bwaha]
Slice baby SLICE!
CARVE BABY CARVE!
DRAG BABY DRAG!
...hunks of Glaciers down from Alaska to Californa-whack to quench the collective thirst of the fornies....
...oh wait...
I recall my dad telling my mom - back in 1970 something.
The Johnson's sold their house for $120,000!
Typical home in the neighborhood back then was maybe $50K.
My mom ask - How did they get that much for it?
Some guy from California - he said that he could not believe how cheap houses are here!
cali and nevada..... do the world a favor, fall into the pacific.... asap
California produces nearly half of US-grown fruits, nuts and vegetables. See it disappear along with it and starve. Moron.
Although I'm having some trouble following the ideology here.
Barack Obama is being too capitalist for "allowing water from [the Great Lakes] 'to be drained, bottled and shipped to China' at a frightening pace."
So are they saying Obama is not doing enough to clean up rivers and lakes? That he should do more? Or just that we should ship water to ourselves, not overseas?
Is the argument against big corporations, or capitalism? Because companies are going to spill things. It's cheaper to dump something in a river than dispose of it properly.
"Approximately 40 percent of all rivers and approximately 46 percent of all lakes in the United States have become so polluted that they are are no longer fit for human use."
I'm just trying to follow what ideology is responsible for this, or what ideology we are supposed to be supporting.
Capitalism is messy. Especially capitalism with huge companies. You get slurry spills, toxic waste, seafood fished to its limits, etc. If something offers short term profit, then pure capitalism will incentivize it.
Are we saying Obama is too capitalist, or what?
Obama is too busy trying to be like Tiger Woods to keep up with it all.
He is a wanna be golf pro, nothing to do with capitalism, communism, fascism or anything like that.
He also likes teleprompters and gaming, that is why drones are becoming so popular as he sits in the west wing with a joystick in his hand and his thumb on the firing button.
Have you ever seen that fucktard swing a golf club. lmao. I'm guessing we won't be seeing him at the Masters anytime soon....unless he's in the bath with Reggie....I'll bet there has been more than one hole in one there.
Have you ever seen that fucktard swing a golf club. lmao. I'm guessing we won't be seeing him at the Masters anytime soon....unless it's in the bathhouse with Reggie Love....and you can pretty much rest assured it will be a Hole in THE ONE!
FORE!
Obumo has done more to hurt the game of golf than Tiger ever did. No wonder why it's dying off, although it doesn't help when 80% of the population can't afford to play .
Clear case of violation of the shit-canned Constitution. Corporations should be liable to the people harmed, not some alphabet agency. Just as halls and yards in condos that are common to all, break it you buy it. Rivers could be treated the same way. Alas, again the govt. is the problem, they want to and are destroying property rights by the minute.
The ONLY difference in a slave and a free man is property ownership. When the govt. confiscates over half of personal earnings through taxes at all levels, we are more than 50% slave.
Psychopaths.
I guess that yanked article in the Israeli paper about genocide being permissable is correct, however it only appllies when we think of the other people, not our family or loved ones.
When I see these brain surgeons committing mass suicide to benefit th rest of us, then they may be on to something :)
it gotta get biblical on america cos deres nuttin left to do.
the kosher robber broke in and took all your treasure gold and jewels.
took some furniture 2
now he gott to burn der house down
destroy the clues all the paperwork
just like the pentagon missile hit and wt7 controlled demolition
the jews are using directed energy weapons in gaza
melting people in dere homes
children in petri dish prison being tested on with laser systems.
1000s of bombs and missiles each one carrying 10 pounds of depleted uranium
billion year depleted uranium as volatile dust
a hollocaust not spielberg fake but pallestine real.
the jews are tesla testing the usa providing the material support.
who needs a lab when you got the headless kids of gaza.
look at the dresden like destruction of gaza coming soon to a jew false flag near you.
Yeah, they tested that Tesla stuff on 9/11, dustifying the buildings as Judy Woods called it. They needed the offshore hurricane to generate the magnetic field for it, the hurricane that ALL the media never mentioned. Wondering how they're powering the stuff in Gaza? Probably not as much energy needed to desolidify a person as compared to towers.
que alGore.
In Arizona they pump water from the Colorado river to grow Cotton,Corn,Alfalfa in the desert. Just drive around Casa Grande to Yuma and you will see this all over. These crops should never be grown in the desert-there are many states that grow these using rain water only.
There are huge new communities planned and built south of Phoenix with no consideration to future water usage.
A desalination plant in Mexico (Rocky Point) can be built to provide fresh water to all the population in Arizona-fat chance anything will be done about that.
I read that in Israel they have four desalination plants and now they even export fresh water to Jordan-that's smart.
More window dressing for the long run water grift. The water Enron. The water is being seeded in California to be delivered to other states. After the unusual storm where a month of water came down (guy hit by lightening) they had to dump millions (UCLA) of gallons down the sewers. They dumped millions in the Rio Grande, They dumped millions in the Sacramento basin, out to sea. Rewatch "Chinatown".
You will know it's a gambit, a fraud, even by the regularity of articles like this and note how your local yokel news ALWAYS says, after a rain, that it hasn't effected "the draught". There is no doubt about the cloud seeding if you have eyes. They take the Pacific Ocean laden water and dump it on Texas Ranches.
in Colo its illegal to collect rain water from your roof, that water is designated as property belonging to the greater Colo river basin and its all sliced and diced and sold to the highest bidder. the corporations own the rain
I’m not surprised this happened. I bet Mother Nature is royally pissed now that the Fed has blamed her weather hundreds of times for their massive failure to stimulate the economy.
"You want to talk smack about my weather, I'll show you some bad weather, assholes."
Big Bad Mama Nature
how much water does a nuke plant drink every day?
Indian Point sucks in 2.5 billion gallons of Hudson River water daily to cool its plant
just one plant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGr11zw-qtw&list=UUE2rZOVPBHBY3mS0mBwwqZw
Tony, that water is the feed stock for Mountain Dew. Any excess gets turned into anti-freeze.
So don't sweat it. Sweating is illegal in CA now anyways. (Part of the Water Waste elimination initiative.)
If sweating is illegal in CA now, why are they encouraging all those Latinos to migrate there?
Move half of California to Detroit - problem solved for both states.
Leftists helping leftists.
Dopeheads helping drunks. I like it.
Maybe if they merge silly con valley with drunktroit they can finally figure out that firearms micro-stamping stupidity.
But not to worry! Real estate in California NEVER goes down in value!
Your stinky, lice infested neighbors of tomorrow who will be barred from using water for anything other than drinking...sure! OK! But in no way will that effect (infect?) home prices! Typhus is a sign of house lust, right? Am I Right?!
Yes! EVERYONE wants to live in California FO-eh-VA!
No problemo!