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"Genocide Is Permissible" Muses Times Of Israel, Promptly Retracts
The Times Of Israel has removed a provocatively-titled blog post after huge blowback, denunciations, and ridicule across social media. The post - "When Genocide Is Permissible" (in full below) - concludes, "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?" Removal or not, we are sure this will do nothing to endear Israel to the world.
The Times Of Israel site Before and After...
h/t @PrisonPlanet
And thanks to The Way-Back Machine, here is the full article...
When Genocide Is Permissible (authored by Yochanan Gordon)
Judging by the numbers of casualties on both sides in this almost one-month old war one would be led to the conclusion that Israel has resorted to disproportionate means in fighting a far less- capable enemy. That is as far as what meets the eye. But, it’s now obvious that the US and the UN are completely out of touch with the nature of this foe and are therefore not qualified to dictate or enforce the rules of this war – because when it comes to terror there is much more than meets the eye.
I wasn’t aware of this, but it seems that the nature of warfare has undergone a major shift over the years. Where wars were usually waged to defeat the opposing side, today it seems – and judging by the number of foul calls it would indicate – that today’s wars are fought to a draw. I mean, whoever heard of a timeout in war? An NBA Basketball game allows six timeouts for each team during the course of a game, but last I checked this is a war! We are at war with an enemy whose charter calls for the annihilation of our people. Nothing, then, can be considered disproportionate when we are fighting for our very right to live.
The sad reality is that Israel gets it, but its hands are being tied by world leaders who over the past six years have insisted they are such good friends with the Jewish state, that they know more regarding its interests than even they do. But there’s going to have to come a time where Israel feels threatened enough where it has no other choice but to defy international warnings – because this is life or death.
Most of the reports coming from Gazan officials and leaders since the start of this operation have been either largely exaggerated or patently false. The truth is, it’s not their fault, falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change. Still however, despite their propensity to lie, when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them. Similarly, when Khaled Meshal declares that no physical damage to Gaza will dampen their morale or weaken their resolve – they have to be believed. Our sage Gedalia the son of Achikam was given intelligence that Yishmael Ben Nesanyah was plotting to kill him. However, in his piety or rather naiveté Gedalia dismissed the report as a random act of gossip and paid no attention to it. To this day, the day following Rosh Hashana is commemorated as a fast day in the memory of Gedalia who was killed in cold blood on the second day of Rosh Hashana during the meal. They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over. History is there to teach us lessons and the lesson here is that when your enemy swears to destroy you – you take him seriously.
Hamas has stated forthrightly that it idealizes death as much as Israel celebrates life. What other way then is there to deal with an enemy of this nature other than obliterate them completely?
News anchors such as those from CNN, BBC and Al-Jazeera have not missed an opportunity to point out the majority of innocent civilians who have lost their lives as a result of this war. But anyone who lives with rocket launchers installed or terror tunnels burrowed in or around the vicinity of their home cannot be considered an innocent civilian. If you’ll counter, that Hamas has been seen abusing civilians who have attempted to leave their homes in response to Israeli warnings to leave – well then, your beginning to come to terms with the nature of this enemy which should automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended.
Everyone agrees that Israel has the right to defend itself as well as the right to exercise that right. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon has declared it, Obama and Kerry have clearly stated that no one could be expected to sit idle as thousands of rockets rain down on the heads of its citizens, placing them in clear and present danger. It seems then that the only point of contention is regarding the measure of punishment meted out in this situation.
I will conclude with a question for all the humanitarians out there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?
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I wish to express deep regret and beg forgiveness for an article I authored which was posted on 5TJT.com, Times of Israel and was tweeted and shared the world over.
I never intended to call to harm any people although my words may have conveyed that message.
With that said I pray and hope for a quick peaceful end to the hostilities and that all people learn to coexist with each other in creating a better world for us all.
Yochanan Gordon
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Well that's ok then...
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The worst thing is that, by and large the world isn't complaining about it, and in one very special case is explicitly enabling it.
Plenty. But it matters naught to the media or government.
BINGO!
This thought pattern comes from the satanic Talmud. It must be awesome being Jewish because they are allowed such delicacies as:
Sanhedrin 55b on allowing sex with 3 year old girls because their virginity will return the same way an eye when poked will eventually stop tearing.
54b is sex with a child of at least nine years of age.
These guys f'n suck.
They were just kidding...about the retraction.
Old truths are being relearned. Disgusting.
Get money out of American politics and the Israeli-Palestine crisis will resolve itself in short order.
"Get money out of American politics and the Israeli-Palestine crisis will resolve itself in short order."
Sadly, probably not. You'd have wealth buying offices directly. The puppets will be cast aside and the puppet masters will just take the seats themselves... Think about it, most of those in the upper positions of govt are wealthy: and if they need more then they can just spin the turnstile and grab another bucket full. All then that needs to be done is to attack anyone who would run against you: they would most likely not have control of the MSM (or have control of the NSA).
www.whatreallyhappened.com radio show just started. I encourage the hasbara trolls to call in as Rivero will definitely say Israel isn't all sunshine and unicorns.
Say Duffy, are you miss-spelling Haggis?
Never again...for me but not for thee.
Murderous psychopaths.
Israel broke he ceasefire with a missile attack 9 minutes in.... but blamed Hamas for breaking it with the kidnapping... that happened before it....
sigh.
Your tax dollars at work.
so Shoah is not permissible but Genocide is.
It's like...fraud or usury or bank robbery or bribery. They are all illegal...unless a Jew does it. (at least according to them)
Bernard-Henri Levy and the Jewish Accusatory Inversion
Jeffrey Goldberg And The Israeli Defeatfuckin' guy is beautiful...
Genocide is permissable when dumb ass americans are footing the bill.
Genocide is permissible when it's ISIS carrying it out in Mosul.
It is not genocide to destroy an enemy that is actively fighting you. It would be genocide to kill all people in the area no matter who they are. Of course, we did not worry about that in Dresden, Hiroshima, Tokoyo and other places.
"It is not genocide to destroy an enemy that is actively fighting you."
Well, what can I say but; Thanks for giving us the green light.
Of course, we did not worry about that in Dresden, Hiroshima, Tokoyo and other places.
Who's 'we', white man?
Thanks to the Jews, nobody knows!
FORM OF - AN ICE HASBARA!!!
we are missing the big picture here folks- it doesn't matter what you really think behind your keyboard, what matters is- what will really happen long term.
1. Complete Genocide of the 1M Palestinians left... over 2 decades or less.
2. Will IS, Hezbollah or ? come to the aid/rescue of the Palestinians.
3. Will America kill more of its own if IS or Hezbollah fight Israel? Unfortunately, we all know the answer to this one.
4. So Israel completes its genocide and has all of the Palestinian land, are the neighbors going to say, aw shucks, that's just how it goes...
that is what matters.
"Genocide is Permissible" is what will be stamped on the side of the government vans that come to haul you and your family off to the FEMA and CDC Death Camps.
Get those lists, people.
Once the EMP is obvious…. I think they say, “shoot shovel shut up”.
I'm curious why so many Americans here are outraged unless of course you're not American or you don't really care that you have a double standard.
When our air forces killed tens of thousands of citizens in Tokyo in March of 1945 in one night and left a million homeless, how was that not a genocide? How was Japan in March of 1945 anymore a threat to US citizens?
What about February of 1945 when we killed 25,000 civilians in Dresden. Were the Germans launching missiles at New York?
How do Americans or Europeans here justify the Tokyo and Dresden bombings with absolutely no regard or concern to citizens and yet act outraged that an editor asks the question when is it OK to kill civilians to defend yourself?
How do Americans or Europeans here justify the Tokyo and Dresden bombings with absolutely no regard or concern to citizens and yet act outraged that an editor asks the question when is it OK to kill civilians to defend yourself?
I'm sorry? Who here is justifying the Dresden and Tokyo bombings? You may not be aware of this fact, but that stuff finished almost 70 years ago. That shit is done.
We're outraged with what's going on NOW.
You also conveniently forget that the latest 'war' was started by the Israelis when they used the death of the three kidnapped Israeli kids as a false-flag to go after Hamas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_Israeli_teena...
BigJim,
I understand your response about past and present but since I read about the USS Liberty on ZH every day, well I suppose modern history or NOW starts with the USS Liberty attack then.
As for the false flag, that's crap. Hamas was ready to fight and was looking for one unless you think all those tunnels built from Gaza to Israel were done by the tooth fairy.
I understand your response about past and present but since I read about the USS Liberty on ZH every day, well I suppose modern history or NOW starts with the USS Liberty attack then.
Using an example from history to illustrate that the US has been Israel's bitch for a long time has nothing to do with wasting time over decrying every atrocity that 'our' countries have committed in the past. The more recent ransacking of Faluja would have been a more relevant example... and I'm sure many here would have roundly condemned it.
As for the false flag, that's crap. Hamas was ready to fight and was looking for one unless you think all those tunnels built from Gaza to Israel were done by the tooth fairy.
Wrong again. First, preparing for an inevitable fight with an enemy that views slaughtering your children as 'mowing the grass' is not the same as initiating it. Second, it's clear the Israeli establishment used the kidnappings as an excuse to start hammering Hamas, kill Palestinians, and destroy their property, until Hamas were obliged to respond with rockets - its only weapons against the vastly superior occupying forces - which Israel could then use as a pretext for more 'mowing the grass' in Gaza.
Or did you not read the wiki article giving the sequence of events... that doesn't mention the IDF killing two Palestinian youths on May the 14th, natch, because that might suggest the kidnapping/murders were themselves reprisals for Israel's murders?
I wonder what it's like to be you? You're obliged to try to find excuses for Israel's behaviour that non-Israelis will believe, when deep inside you believe Israel can do whatever it likes to the Palestinians because your tribe is 'Chosen'.
Is it fun?
I think Genocide is considered a war crime. Japan got it's ass handed to it back in WWII. That is the difference.
so are you saying America should arm the Gazans with equal weaponry to make it more fair? Would that logic please the wiring in your brain?
Those were war crimes too. I'm outraged.
But I can't hold those people responsible anymore. This is occurring now. Something can be done about it.
Well, there was this PLAN that kind of went sideways, and...
Yes, Dresden. Yes Tokyo. But you know what? Germany and Japan had full-fledged military forces, with actual aircraft and such!
I don't justify murder. And, well, although there are some clowns in various political positions, the US isn't based on a strategy of exterminating all "non-believers" (it's getting closer, due to infiltration and such, but it's not codified).
"when is it OK to kill civilians to defend yourself?"
Are you asking this as an individual or as an organized body? And, why the focus on "civilians?" really, you're asking if it's OK to kill folks who are not taking up arms? If you are comfortable with shooting someone in the back then I guess the answer would be: whenever you feel like it.
we need a reverse megaphone app to send counter-hasbara commenters to israeli and jewish sites.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/times-of-israel-removes-an-unacceptable-blo...
comment away....
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/01/genocide_is_permissible_according_to_ins...
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/yochanan-genocide-permissible.html
http://www.ibtimes.com/who-yochanan-gordon-when-genocide-permissible-wri...
Looks like this blogger might get the ol' Donald Sterlin treatment...
Exactly
One loony is handed a microphone and cockroaches appear screaming, "All jews are 'fill in the blank' ""
Using that convenient logic, all old white guys/team owners are racists
Sterling, AKA Tokowitz was Jewish too LoL. That was cannibalism.
But of course?... What else were we expecting???...
Heil Binny!!!
no there you go
it won't be genicide then
it will just be getting rid of anyone who opposes the NWO AC
but Israel unfortunately will have to defend itself and harm innocent citizens because
she is surrounded by those who wont' it destroyed
nothing anyone here can do about it
you can't reason it out
that is the way it is going to be until MR AC, ?OBama takes over
that includes the FEMA camps
there is no escape, you are not going to figure it out or solve it
this is something we will have to go thru until the take over
But then it will only be for a few years, ?7
"Genocide" is such an ugly word. Let's call it for what it is: "Selective or Targeted Cleansing".
I gather that these are permissible under your Kabal Law, when non-Zionist entities are involved. And never mind the UN Resolution 3103:
http://daccess-ods.un.org/TMP/6325998.30627441.html UN Resolution 3103 of 1973 NR028175.pdf
http://www.asetbooks.com/us/asetu/courses/internationallaw101/IntLaw1-8.html
Resolution 3103, The Legal Status of Combatants Struggling Against Alien Domination and Racist Regimes, was agreed to in 1973. It reaffirms that "the continuation of colonialism in all its forms and manifestations, as noted in General Assembly resolution 2621 (XXV) of 12 October 1970, is a crime and that colonial peoples have the inherent right to struggle by all necessary means at their disposal against colonial Powers and alien domination in exercise of their right of self-determination..."
----1. The struggle of peoples under colonial and alien domination and racist regimes for the implementation of their right to self-determination and independence is legitimate and in full accordance with the principles of international law.
----2. Any attempt to suppress the struggle against colonial and alien domination and racist regimes is incompatible with the Charter of the United Nations, the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, the Universal Declarations of Human Rights and the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples and constitutes a threat to international peace and security.
----3. The armed conflicts involving the struggle of peoples against colonial and alien domination and racist regimes are to be regarded as international armed conflicts in the sense of the 1949 Geneva Conventions, and the legal status envisaged to apply to the combatants in the 1949 Geneva Conventions and other international instruments is to apply to the persons engaged in armed struggle against colonial and alien domination and racist regimes.
---4. The combatants struggling against colonial and alien domination and racist regimes captured as prisoners, are to be accorded the status of prisoners of war and treatment should be in accordance with the Geneva Convention relating to the Prisoners of War, August 12, 1949.
----5. The use of mercenaries by colonial and racist regimes against national liberation movements struggling for their freedom and independence from the yoke of colonialism and alien domination is considered to be a criminal act and the mercenaries should accordingly be punished as criminals.
US.gov, please note #5, as it applies to the every US regime at least since Desert Storm, when Bush 1 ran a proxy war for Israel, to prevent Scud missiles and financing of an escalating number of Suicide Bombers from harming Israel. It applies to your criminal deeds in Serbia. It applies to your criminal deeds in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Ukraine -- especially East Ukraine, where you are the sponsor, organizer and funder of chaos, violence and death. The US Administrations under Bush 1 and 2, Clinton and Obama are culpable of War Crimes, and should be tried as such. Clearly Slobodan Milosevic had so much documented dirt on you, that you had to let him rot in jail, until he one day had a sudden and massive heart attack.
Your Armageddon, your Judgement Day will come when the Blood-Dollar finally loses its GRC status. Payback will be a bitch, as the world will show.
And as to you brainwashed or sociopath Zio-nuts, here's must-see video from Miko Peled (The General's Son) in "An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ
Time to open your eyes, turn on the brain, step away from the Kool Aid fountain, and have your personal Epiphany.
p.s. For the people who care to get more informed about the true nature and agenda of Modern/Revisionist Zionism, start with...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Zionism (Political entity, seperate from Judaism but flying its Flag of Convenience)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel (Eretz Israel, with alleged amibitions of Sea-to-Sea, i.e. Nile-to-Euphrates)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Organization_of_America (AIPAC, ADL, JDL,SPCL, B'nai B'rith... and its electoral ownership of US politicians)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netanyahu (all 3 generations of Mileikowsky/Netanyahu, since the late 1800s)
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayanim (Jewish helpers of Zionism, located globally)
It is sad that it is the fascist and racist views, agenda, policies, laws and deeds of Zionism that threaten Israeli and world peace. Peace could and will come, if the Zionist State is replaced by a Democratic State. This has been done successfully in other countries, and can also be done in Israel.
Essentially, what we have is a Minority within a Minority hijacking and controlling Israel, and by extension to its stranglehold over US Politics, leveraged control over the US and its "Allies".
The world is not Anti-Semitic, as Palestinians are Semites also. It is merely Anti-Zionist. Know the difference, use the correct terms.
"Nevertheless, the Palestinian people will survive. The vast majority of Israelis these days won’t like that one bit; and neither will Americans and others who have been deluded into accepting the Israeli narrative. But it is an inexorable fact. As a modern day Friedrich Nietzsche might say: whatever does not annihilate them, strengthens them. And, as a modern day Martin Luther King might then add: the arc of the moral universe will, in time, swing Palestine’s way. Inasmuch as it bends towards justice, how could it not?"
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/01/the-moral-universe-will-swing-pal...
The Times of Israel is a nobody.
They're not Yediot Ahrohnot
They're not Ma'Ariv
They're not Israel Hayom
They're not Haaretz
They're not JPost.
They're really not worth the time here but hey, it's incendiary so put it up!!!!!!
They're not the 'chosen news'.
It was written by a nobody and yanked.
His dad Larry Gordon publishes the Five Towns Jewish Times. I think this means that this is straight up Long Island policy here. I uderstand that the same editorial was up for weekend reading in the Hamptons. Yochanan is going to be writing editorial page stuff for the neighbors for a few decades to come.
really not worth the time
just likes you fag fan you little girly : )
Yawn.
tired?
that means you're trying too hard.
why not give it a rest for a while, champ. Maybe get a ukrainian white slave, I mean hooker, in downtown Tel Aviv.... she's crying because she loves her freedoms...
It means I'm not really concerned with an anonymous insult.
'As of February 2014, two years after its launch, it claims a readership of 2 million'. Population of Israel, 7.9 million. For comparison, New York Times circulation - 1.865 million, USA Today circulation - 1.674 million.
Nice catch. The zioqueer caught with his pants down. Again.
So they're not the chosen news?
The FACT was already shown to you that there's a 1.5 million to 2 million circulation on that paper. I'd hardly think that that's insignficant. And this FACT matters not if I like this paper or not.
Since Israel dosent even consider them human beings then its not genocide! See, that wasnt hard to figure out guys.
Does anyone know how many have been killed in Syria and Iraq since Hamass pissed off Israel. The Gazans have a ways to go.
Genocide is permissible, as long as its the 'chosen tribe' doing the genociding....hell it's all right there in the Torah which is a nightmarish cavalcade of the 'chosen ones' genociding and enslaving their neighboring villages.
The final solution.
Would've also accepted, "You know who else endorsed 'The Final Solution?'"
If "He" won WW2, the nations of the world would be at peace, instead of descending into total chaos and conflagration.
According to your friendly Isis supplements this is a rather provocative article.
hey - what about this guy's blog?
- http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/1-samuel-1518/#ixzz39AIQIcls
I'm siding with Agag, Amalek, and the enemies of the Demiurge-called-Yah'weh by Is'ra'el...
{{by the way check out that movie Noah with russell crowe - I promise it's not what you think. Aronofsky is a "righteous Hebrew"}}
Wow, thanks for the link. If you surf around the site you will find a surprising number of rabid hate spewing idiots that would be considered terrorists by any sane human. However, they won't be spewing much longer I don't think. I am sure the Israelis just can't understand why they are so univerally despised.....but anyone who reads the crap on that site will fully understand.
There sure is a lot of outrage over an editorial which has since been removed.
Reverend Jeremiah Wright was right.
"Reverend Jeremiah Wright raised eyebrows yet again when he said he was no longer able to speak to President Obama because "them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me."
A lot of people have said a lot of things about the Jews. Only now is the truth and wisdom of those words of warning being laid bare for all to see.
"But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them." - Martin Luther
"Jews have always controlled the business... The motion picture influence of the United States and Canada... is exclusively under the control, moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind." - Henry Ford
"The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant race ever heard of. As commonly encountered they lack any of the qualities that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity, incorruptibility, ease, confidence. They have vanity without pride, voluptuousness without taste, and learning without wisdom." - H.L. Mencken
wow - and one of the most insipid hasbarats smears feces on the screen once again, right below a post mentioning another insane article
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/1-samuel-1518/#ixzz39AIQIcls
Come on, dickhead - keep making excuses.
That's what you're paid for, right?
It's a nothing website with a shack as a headquarters. Take a look at the pic of their headquarters on Wikipedia. They are nobodies who let one hack write a lousy article, saw it didn't represent them and took it down.
You Atari guys are quite the comedians. Everyone is a Hasbro.
Wow, the hits just keep coming. So destroying Gaza is just doing God's work then, according to this guy. I wonder if he's related to Blankfein.
Destroying Western Civilization and homogeneous communities, that's god's work. And it's already done so they can move into bigger and better things like building up Eretz Israel and digging in their fortifications.
It was a Freudian slip. (LOL)
I guess Tyler wouldn't get as many clicks with the headline "Article written by a nobody in a second tier Israeli website gets retracted PROMPTLY".
A dickhead of a columnist and apparently no editorial review at all.
On the content the point is that genocide (of the Palestinians, just to be clear) is not seen by anyone as necessary, and thus not "permissible" - a whole debate in just that one word y'know. So raising the term "genocide" is just guaranteed to make everyone howl. Except that Hamas officially wishes to commit genocide on the Israelis, Jews, and all non-Hamas, but for Hamas it's OK cuz that's just how they are.
Except that Hamas officially wishes to commit genocide on the Israelis, Jews, and all non-Hamas, but for Hamas it's OK cuz that's just how they are.
And your proof of this is...?
He doesn't make points, he just spews what on his script.
Rhetorical or not, the question he asked was patently dumb and the Editor who let it go should be whipped. Sigh...
Perhaps the editor was trying "to be a gas"?
Maybe they should cut off a hand or poke out an eye.
Israelis are playing a dangerous game but coexistence was never an option for either side. One of them will be "wiped off the map". Americans are voicing some "outrage" to keep up appearances, but Americans know their nation has been practicing genocide since its founding. The west doesn't have a problem with genocide.
Yes, there is that and the fact that Hamas and Iran have called for Israeli extermination. Heck even working members of the Toronto Transit Commission have called for the death of all Israelis.
Well, if they want to start down the genocide path that is fine. I mean, the dollars days are numbered. I am sure there are many who will remember the musings of genocide by the Israeli.
Deleting stuff just ain't what it used to be
http://www.silverdoctors.com/financial-times-deleted-gold-manipulation-s...
What they are doing to the Gazans is similar to what they did to the global economy...they used their power and position to destroy a relatively defenseless populace with full knowledge and intent solely to enrich themselves, without regard to the consequences upon others.
Their only allegiance is to themselves and they will do ANYTHING to ANYBODY to further their gains. To me this is the definition of HATE. Whatever hate is directed toward them is NOTHING compared to the HATE that they have for others, whether they own them or not.
This is why they lost the convenant...they have totally given up on truth, love and GOD.
Gazans/Palis have no friends. That is the definition of hate.
Hey old man, why don't you allow me to save some time and say "fuck you" for every trolldropping you're about to distribute on this site now that your megaphone alert roused you from your second nap of the day.
You know, there might be some non-Jewish kids on your lawn right now - see to it, man - see to it!
A Haggis troll gets you upset?
Awwwww you hurt his feelings sniff sniff. Offer him a tissue.
Any tissue from Duffy is going to have something, uh, biological on it.
jews are the palis. always have been and always will be.
DNA SEZ U R IIMPOSTERS WHO STOLE THE TRIBE FROM THE TRIBE
Asymmetric. That's what Obama is doing here. I guess it works if you work it.
Andrew Jackson approved this message.
"If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?"
I might add that these sort of ideas are now firmly rooted in Kiev's coup government. If you use the internet and source much of what is being said inside coup circles, you can hear the same statements. Genocide is acceptable if it permits Kiev to rule the Eastern provinces. I read a few days ago that some coup leaders suggest that Donbass can be cleansed of all but 1.5 million people, those needed to work the mines and frack the gas, all other citizens are to be killed or driven out to insure West Ukraine's ownership of the East. To these people, who have strong Israeli ties, genocide of ethnic Russians is seen as good for their new pure Ukraine. That America supports both Israel in their genocide, and now Kiev's coup government in their genocide, shows up Washington DC for the evil that it now promotes. And uses the name of our American people as their justification for genocide, claiming these acts are for the American people's security and prosperity. One wonders how much bigger the lie machine in Washington DC can get. Paul Graig Roberts has done a good job of pointing out the criminals who inhabit Washington DC. We pay these people so much money from our taxes that earth's richest area is the area around Washington DC, the oceans of tax money we are forced to pay to them makes them all rich.
I don't like what I'm seeing, the dead and injured children, but I have a question.
What if Hamas won? What would be the outcome of that?
Nobody wins a war. It merely ranks the losers.
The Democrats have come out pretty well off from the War on Poverty.
Israel Times is not an official media site - it's a blog site that's unedited (unlike anythine ever relaeased by Hamas)
Not making excuses for the repulsive post.
But to suggest it's official Israeli policy is nonsense. If Israel wished to level Gaza to a parking lot,
it would have been done in a matter of a few hours.
Like Al CIAda... Hamas was started by intel... in this case, Mossad... to weaken the PLO, this isn't a secret... the lack of rocket fire is evidence of that... and that they rarely if ever hit anything, imagine leaving a picture in a game that can't get the ball across the plate... would you leave him in the game... for season after season? C'mon..... same type of psychos as usual... remember the Stern Gang was terrorists blowing up British hospitals before the USofA declared them their new democractic partner in the Middle East and supported them with WMD decade after decade...
It is the people of the Gaza Ghetto that one should be sorry for, as they are sitting ducks in an occupied territory and subject to the psychopathic whims of the Israeli state. They should leave Hamas to their own Mossad driven objectives... leave Mossad without an easy patsy to blame everything on.... and that should sound familiar, as our psychos here in the States are busy blaming everything in Europe on Putin.... psychopaths think alike because they share the same genetic programming... they are simply human predators without a conscience and this applies to the leadership of Hamas as well as all the Zionists 'nazis of the Israeli psycho state.... same as our psycho state here in the States... driven by our CIA terrorists who kill off their opposition like sitting ducks as well.... as the Kennedy examples should illustrate... FBI took the lead on MLK, though none of these conspiracies can occur without the White House and Congressional approval, same as our Congress and White House continues to support Israel as they practice genocide in ole Palestine... with their Final Solution to kill off the old Jews who became Moslems....
Same psycho state practice in Ukraine and around the world. Like any viral infection, if you don't kill it first, it will kill you.... and usually itself in the process, as it is unable to see the affect of its practices on itself, they are self-reflective that way. It simple is not part of their programming, so complete tunnel vision occurs... they will do or say anything, no matter how ignorant or bizarre, to get what they want, and they want everything until they is nothing left... and then Mother Nature comes in to reset and restore the natural balance of things.... so look forward to that... and it affects all of us by default.
Nice try.
Gaza will be a parking lot. But we need to take time and find right excuses. That world opinion thing. We won't admit it but it does matter. And then those few pesky Jews that oppose wonton killing. Can't just get rid of them.
I now have full understanding of what I'm doing and why. I feel good about that.
Well, they've already pretty much made ethnostates illegal, and collectively managed to strong-arm western countries into mass immigration and multicuturalism... so I'd say yes. Jews are evil monsters who not only believe in Genocide but will commit it by covert means (if overt is not possible) and then lie to your face while they're promoting it.
Genocide is permissible? Ok then
Someone please blow domina nuclear staton...
upsss iran is in the case lololol
Iran says it will strike Israel's Domina nuclear power plant.How come its Putins fault when Russian speaking separatists accidentally shoot down a commercial aircraft killing 300 people with Russian made weapons, but Obama can give hundreds of millions of dollars of aid to Israel used for buying shells to deliberately kill Palestinian men woman and children and shell schools, hospitals and safe sites full of children despite being notified 17 times of its location, but that is considered OK and there is no calls from anywhere in the world to place sanctions on the US or to brand Obama a war criminal, if fact he takes no responsibility at all?
Just curious
who has the best propaganda?
The Zios have Hollywood - Iran, Russia... they're limited to web distributed news networks which, as it happens, Jewish/pro-Israel groups have lobbied to have removed from more and more tv stations in europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx6NOeCnJGs
Freedom of speech guarantees the rights of idiots to spew whatever
they want, and while I do not support the words written, I do support
free speech rights for all, including the idiots. From the perspective
of most on Internet this idiot in question should not be allowed to
write what he was thinking and in terms of doings this collectively
we are collectively censoring his rights to free speech. Don't be
a 'mug wump' and cross the floor of politics on a whim or to pick and choose what you deem to be appropriate discourse. If we attempt to silence unpopular speech along a long enough timeline
we will silence a majority of our populations. Human beings have a right to say shit that people don't like.
someone crying about "free speech" when its a Jew arguing for genocide.... I wonder if you're in Europe where you could go to jail for questioning any of the specifics of only one particular genocide...
[dramatic pause]
Anyway, who here is censoring his free speech? We're merely talking about it. Few here would argue in favor of censoring speech. Indeed the Tylers likely take heat for daring to allow as much free speech here as exists.
You have to wonder what gets censored from stories at cnn.com and nytimes.com - the deleted/censored ones are probably often shite, but there's probably some brilliance discarded as well.
And naked honesty.
I fight with my state broadcaster's private contractor that censors
the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation website comments section
and approximately half of my comments are 'content disabled'.
That censorsip is what prompted me to come to Z/H for some free speech room to breathe. Z/H is ok by me on the freedom of speech
permitted. CNN would likely censor the hell out of everything so I would never go there. I am also on the New York Times and please believe me when I state that one cannot even mildly take a shot at
Professor Krugman without finding the comment censored. The NYT is _very_ strict IMHO. The NYT is worse than the CBC in CANADA
and that's saying something.
"when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them"
"I never intended to call to harm any people although my words may have conveyed that message."
I have zero interest in whether the Ruler of Gaza wears a towel or a doiley but obliterating every trace of your enemy would seem to (1) prevent further attacks from said enemy and (2) discourage copycats.
Hitler tried that.
Now we have Israel.
What was your point again?
Congrats on not only managing to cry "hitler" but making a straw man at the same time.
The worse internet comments all wrapped up in one post.
Truly, you have mastered the art of the soccer mom dialogue.
All the Jews will be killed in the end, nothing can stop what is coming.
It is very near.
My mother always told me to never speak to the devil.
Its all lies coming from them.
It's actually a very reasonable article, have any of you read it?
The only problem is that the title was found to be too controversial, so they yanked the whole article.
Here's how I'd resolve the situation. Arm all the Palestinians in Gaza. Tell them if they don't eliminate those within their community who are launching the rockets themselves, then they'll all get nuked. Either they'll refuse, and implicitly accept the outcome of that, or they'll take out the ones who are launching the rockets. Either way, it ends in peace, and in less deaths than if they just keep this conflict on for another century or so.
or we could just arrest and hang every member of AIPAC and every dual citizen in Congress or the Executive.
Then we tell Israel to drop its blockade and end its illegal occupation or no more num nums from Uncle Sugar, and we start releasing "secret documents" regarding aggressive Israeli/Jewish spying?
How about that?
Also hang the really vulgar nation-wreckers like Immanuel Cellar, lead-author of the National Immigration Act of 1965, George Soros, Sheldon Adelson, Rahm Immanuel, Michael Bloomberg, et al, and you forgot to mention deporting the remainder of these hook-nosed rats and confiscating the ill-gotten billions.
Zionists must die.
those pesky rabbis have killed themselves they have fucking used american depleted uranium missiles and bombs dumped it all over gaza and are now drinking it eating it and breathing it in.
even if the zionists survive the self inflicted cancer they have sterilzed themselves karma thanks to general electric nuclear waste.
Now I see. It's not your english, it's your logic.
pagans must bow to archangels in addition to their god
The top rabbi in Israel wrote a piece extolling GENOCIDE against the Muslims and Christians of Palestine last year.
The Talmud is FULL of this sort of stuff, but the American Christians NEVER hear about it. Gee I wonder why?
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In Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel, Shahak and his co-author Norton Mezvinsky show just how mainstream these views are. Here is a quote from Lubivitcher Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, who has been welcomed at the White House and been given a medal by the US Congress:
We do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather we have a case of . . . a totally different species. . . . The body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of [members] of all nations of the world . . . The difference of the inner quality [of the body] . . . is so great that the bodies would be considered as completely different species. This is the reason why the Talmud states that there is an halachic difference in attitude about the bodies of non-Jews [as opposed to the bodies of Jews]: “their bodies are in vain”. . . . An even greater difference exists in regard to the soul. Two contrary types of soul exist, a non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness.
Shahak and Mezvinsky note that
many Jews, especially religious Jews today in Israel and their supporters abroad, continue to adhere to traditional Jewish ethics that other Jews would like to ignore or explain away. For example, Rabbi Yitzhak Ginzburg of Joseph’s Tomb in Nablus/Shechem, after several of his students were remanded on suspicion of murdering a teenage Arab girl: “Jewish blood is not the same as the blood of a goy.” Rabbi Ido Elba: “According to the Torah, we are in a situation of pikuah nefesh (saving a life) in time of war, and in such a situation one may kill any Gentile.” Rabbi Yisrael Ariel writes in 1982 that “Beirut is part of the Land of Israel. [This is a reference to the boundaries of Israel as including all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates, as stated in the Covenant between God and Abraham in Genesis 15: 18–20 and Joshua 1 3–4] . . . our leaders should have entered Lebanon and Beirut without hesitation, and killed every single one of them. Not a memory should have remained.” It is usually yeshiva students who chant “Death to the Arabs” on CNN. The stealing and corruption by religious leaders that has recently been documented in trials in Israel and abroad continues to raise the question of the relationship between Judaism and ethics.
every religion has their nuts, but the former chief Sephardic rabbi wasn't fringe, and Schneerson was big time amongst the pasty white Hasidim in NY and elsewhere.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/07/why-is-the-us-honoring-a-racist-r...
Can you imagine a Muslim saying something analogous and being awarded by congress? Only Jewish privilege and power explains this.
Or even worse can you imagine a Christian saying something analogous and not being lynched?
I like particularly how in Jewish scripture it's ok to gouge OTHERS with exorbitant interest rates on loans, just not other Jews.
Seems about right given modern high finance. Guess that's why they had to throw Bernie Madoff in jail -- he made the ultimate no-no of fucking over his own kind. Big mistake Bernie, Jews are off-limits, didn't you get the memo?
I saw a paper this Jewish guy had that said "Hebrew Free Loans"
here it is
https://www.hflasf.org/
Another group in history had an almost identical philosophy, although it championed a different superior race. It was called the Third Reich.
When he's elected President of Israel, kills off all political opponents, turns his kids into suicide bombers, starts killing members of any other religion or sect and uses every sheckel to kill Muslims to the expense of his own country, then I will see the equivelance.
Just let all the fundamentalist Jews and Muslims kill each other. Then, sweep their dead bodies into the sea and let some moderate, agnostic people of EVERY race start a REAL "promised land" in that region. Just my two cents, because I certainly don't have another solution to this problem, and it's obvious that neither do any of the "holy warriors" involved.
Either that or they should just be entered into a forced breeding program with one another to eliminate whatever petty racial/religious differences they think are so important. A little racial integration and assimilation would do these unproductive, religious zealots some good and in addition prevent all this inbreeding that is undeniably affecting their better judgment.
They are already much closer DNA wise than I am to my neighbors. If a forced breeding program was used they would just kill the kids....Oh wait they both do that now
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2011/09/jews-palestinians-have-close-genetic-ties-say-researchers.php
"As many as 90 percent of Palestinians in some areas have close genetic ties to Jews, according to researchers Ariella Oppenheim Ph.D., a researcher at Hebrew University and the Hadassah Medical School labs, has published the result of DNA studies which show that both the Palestinians and Jews are descended from the Kurds of Iraq and Turkey"
The war is bullshit just like Endless US wars. If you dress up a jew in palestinian garb well.....it totally works.
When people shoot rockets at your citizens for long enough, then elect people who do it again, I start to agree with the people who want to put those murderers out of their misery.
No shortage of stupid commentary, even in Isreali press.
Just look at our media and how long they've been announcing that we're in an economic recovery.
When your country is started by a bunch of hotel-bombing terrorists who ty to blame their misdeeds on others to provoke an international reaction, then elect people who continue to try and do the same thing and fuck up every time, it's time to call it quits.
that country was started 4000 years ago. long before your ancestors wore clothes , had a written language or millenia before your ancestors shytte out their native culture to deify one of my brethren.
DNA says no khazar
When people dispossess your family of land they have owned for generations upon generations, I start to agree with the people who want to put those murderers out of their misery.
FTFY
Like the Jews kicked out of Muslim countries in 1948?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries
Like the Christians kicked out of Iraq in 2003+?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Iraq
Will you now "start to agree with the people who want to put those murderers out of their misery"?
From Dumbstruck's dickshunairy -
Embareassmeant : when the truth comes out like a streaker, suddenly unexpectedly out of seeming nowhere, out in the street bareassed, shocking all and running fast only to disappear again in a flash.
The Israeli army used coordinated armor with air-power and ground troops for rapid incursions into territory to control apposing military and civilian populations. The first time this was tried it was called blitzkrieg.
Choose your enemies wisely for you will become more like them.
What was it called when early Americans slaughtered the Indians to carry out manifest destiny?
You folks that hate Isreal for defending their people from the cowardly rocket attacks by Hamas need to find an Indian and turn over your bank accounts, house and car keys, etc...to them. You know, to make things right....
Or was it OK to inavade their lands because it was a long time ago?
They didn't drive them into reservations, lock the door and start bombing them.
Fuck Israel and any asshole that supports it!
Bomb these Arab pricks until they say sorry.....we are animals and have mercy on us.....let them beg.......the IDF would fuck up the US Armed Forces......stop the rockets and we will stop killing you......
Bomb these Arab pricks until they say sorry.....we are animals and have mercy on us.....let them beg.......the IDF would fuck up the US Armed Forces......stop the rockets and we will stop killing you......
Arab scum......Gas and a match.....to them all......
That would make a great t-shirt.
Is all this anti-semitism real or just British intelligence playing games again.
All you krauts can go kill yourselves. We killed your ugly, inferior fuhrer.
Wait... your name is FRENCH something or other....
Tee hee...
Did you serve him lots of butter, cheese and wine as a last meal?
LOL
The "krauts"? Or the British out to get you and your beloved Israel? At least you're still getting paid by American taxpayers that fund Hasbara.
Hasbara has undone Israel, good going jerk-off. Paranoid freak!
Lol. The only semites in this war are the palis.
Or, and the allies shipped Hitler and his top brass to Argentina after the war. In exchange for the nuke stuff, which then a jew fuck took the credit for created. Another jew fuck lie.
And more of them passed it on to the Soviets in the early fifties.
#1 Genocide-deflection tactic = accuse others of anti-semitism, reference Holocaust.
Zionists became the same Nazis by learning from them. Should be obvious to anyone with half a working brain by now.
The antisemenism is real (most zionists are not semites, the Palestinians are, so its not antisemitism) and it growing nicely thank you.