"Genocide Is Permissible" Muses Times Of Israel, Promptly Retracts

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The Times Of Israel has removed a provocatively-titled blog post after huge blowback, denunciations, and ridicule across social media. The post - "When Genocide Is Permissible" (in full below) - concludes, "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?" Removal or not, we are sure this will do nothing to endear Israel to the world.

 

The Times Of Israel site Before and After...

h/t @PrisonPlanet

 

And thanks to The Way-Back Machine, here is the full article...

When Genocide Is Permissible (authored by Yochanan Gordon)

Judging by the numbers of casualties on both sides in this almost one-month old war one would be led to the conclusion that Israel has resorted to disproportionate means in fighting a far less- capable enemy. That is as far as what meets the eye. But, it’s now obvious that the US and the UN are completely out of touch with the nature of this foe and are therefore not qualified to dictate or enforce the rules of this war – because when it comes to terror there is much more than meets the eye.

 

I wasn’t aware of this, but it seems that the nature of warfare has undergone a major shift over the years. Where wars were usually waged to defeat the opposing side, today it seems – and judging by the number of foul calls it would indicate – that today’s wars are fought to a draw. I mean, whoever heard of a timeout in war? An NBA Basketball game allows six timeouts for each team during the course of a game, but last I checked this is a war! We are at war with an enemy whose charter calls for the annihilation of our people. Nothing, then, can be considered disproportionate when we are fighting for our very right to live.

 

The sad reality is that Israel gets it, but its hands are being tied by world leaders who over the past six years have insisted they are such good friends with the Jewish state, that they know more regarding its interests than even they do. But there’s going to have to come a time where Israel feels threatened enough where it has no other choice but to defy international warnings – because this is life or death.

 

Most of the reports coming from Gazan officials and leaders since the start of this operation have been either largely exaggerated or patently false. The truth is, it’s not their fault, falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change. Still however, despite their propensity to lie, when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them. Similarly, when Khaled Meshal declares that no physical damage to Gaza will dampen their morale or weaken their resolve – they have to be believed. Our sage Gedalia the son of Achikam was given intelligence that Yishmael Ben Nesanyah was plotting to kill him. However, in his piety or rather naiveté Gedalia dismissed the report as a random act of gossip and paid no attention to it. To this day, the day following Rosh Hashana is commemorated as a fast day in the memory of Gedalia who was killed in cold blood on the second day of Rosh Hashana during the meal. They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over. History is there to teach us lessons and the lesson here is that when your enemy swears to destroy you – you take him seriously.

 

Hamas has stated forthrightly that it idealizes death as much as Israel celebrates life. What other way then is there to deal with an enemy of this nature other than obliterate them completely?

 

News anchors such as those from CNN, BBC and Al-Jazeera have not missed an opportunity to point out the majority of innocent civilians who have lost their lives as a result of this war. But anyone who lives with rocket launchers installed or terror tunnels burrowed in or around the vicinity of their home cannot be considered an innocent civilian. If you’ll counter, that Hamas has been seen abusing civilians who have attempted to leave their homes in response to Israeli warnings to leave – well then, your beginning to come to terms with the nature of this enemy which should automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended.

 

Everyone agrees that Israel has the right to defend itself as well as the right to exercise that right. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon has declared it, Obama and Kerry have clearly stated that no one could be expected to sit idle as thousands of rockets rain down on the heads of its citizens, placing them in clear and present danger. It seems then that the only point of contention is regarding the measure of punishment meted out in this situation.

 

I will conclude with a question for all the humanitarians out there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

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The author just apologized...

I wish to express deep regret and beg forgiveness for an article I authored which was posted on 5TJT.com, Times of Israel and was tweeted and shared the world over.

 

I never intended to call to harm any people although my words may have conveyed that message.

 

With that said I pray and hope for a quick peaceful end to the hostilities and that all people learn to coexist with each other in creating a better world for us all.

 

Yochanan Gordon

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zarjad's picture

Nice to have God on your side.

Just curious, would Israel be entitled to reparations from Egypt? I think we should be. Egypt enslaved us, that's worth something. Then when Israelites were forced to run from Egypt didn't they leave lots of posessions behind? That's worth something. Israel is obviously entitled to at least a piece of Egypt for all that suffering. I have an idea. Once Gaza inhabitants are pushed into Egypt (working on that right now), they will be fighting back. Israel should than set up security buffers in Egypt, purely defensive measure, mind you. I think 50 miles would be just about right. And another 50 for reparations mentioned above. I think I can carve out few square miles out of Egypt for Gaza Arabs. And if those new egyptians don't behave, I can just bomb Cairo. But I won't have to because egyptians know I will (bomb them), so they will keep Gazans under control. If they don't, I'll just push our security zone another 50 miles. I think some of those egyptian resorts would be nice to have.

Now I feel good. 

JLee2027's picture

Everyone has GOD on their side if they choose.

But since you've chosen sarcasm as your weapon, and not truth, I see no reason to respond to it.

zarjad's picture

Well, you just responded, something clicked.

Sarcasm and truth are opposites? Is lack of sarcasm required to be truthful? Can we agree that you might be wrong on this one?

BTW, you'd make a good cruisader. Ever aspired to that job?

  

PeterB's picture

Here's a prediction. I predict your paranoia will gradually get worse if you continue to justify questionable behaviour.

Disenchanted's picture

@jlee

 

If your God is reflected in his so-called "chosen people" I want nothing further to do with your God. Nor do I need or want said God's forgiveness and salvation.

And just to save you some time...

 

Me:
Member for
2 years 28 weeks
alien-IQ's picture

fuck you and your phony god right up your asses.

SilverIsKing's picture

Give it up J.  Might as well change your name to QuadrillionDollarBonus.

There are too many of them.

The_Dude's picture

Do what we have to do here in the US and open up the border, get out your checkbook and pray they don't overrun your lil' hood?  It's what the friendly dual-citizens have wrought on the US so I'm sure you'll enjoy it there also.

 

 

Peter Pan's picture

The whole world is against you now, so what is your solution?

It is no secret that you have robbed the Palestinians of land and starved them by restricting what food enters their land, baited them into retaliating, paid certain Hamas to do what they do in order to create excuses for retribution, and the list goes on.

The real danger for Israel now is that the day may arrive when the world says enough both to Israel, gathers up all Jewish Fed members, bankers, lobbyists and businessmen so as to extract revenge for all the economic and political mess that this world has put up with.

I suggest that Jews everywhere denounce their Zionist persona and rejoin the ranks of humanity before they giverise to an equally insane mob as the one that struts through Gaza.

JLee2027's picture

The whole world is against you now, so what is your solution?

Again, I'm not Jewish. But I do believe in the Bible.

It doesn't matter what the entire world says or thinks. It only matters what GOD says will happen. He says Israel will survive against an attack from all nations. Until that time, Israel should do what they are doing. Defend itself, but show restraint where pratical. 

I've seen reports that some of those entrances to HAMAS tunnels trace back to UN buildings. So the UN was helping the terrorists. Level those buildings, for sure, if that report is true.

Occupy Gaza I believe is the final outcome. Assimilate the pals, they choose not to govern themselves. There won't be any other reasonable choice. 

 

oudinot's picture

"I do believe in the Bible"

Do you believe that the world was made in 6 days?

That  man has been around for 6,400 years?

That all the animals, two by two, came to Noah's Ark?

 

JLee2027's picture

Do you believe the Universe came from nothing? 

That life arise from rain off a rock?

That a single cell somehow evolved into a man?

Or did GOD do it all, as he said in Genesis and Jesus personally confirmed?  Or do you believe Jesus lied?

 

oudinot's picture

I don't know what I believe in; however, I  certainly don't believe in Genocide under any circumstances whatsoever , unlike yourself.

And, truly, that one solid belief makes me more of a man of religion than yourself even though I'm an aetheist.

JLee2027's picture

I don't believe in Genocide, only atheists do.

Quus Ant's picture

Dude, you're the kind of guy that would blow up the world if you thought it's what god wanted.

Tell me you're not in a position with any authority.

oudinot's picture

Lee cetainly isn't in a position of authourity; if he was he wouldn't spend so much time spinning numerous , illogical, senseless,nasty posts.

My spider sense tells me Lee is a Southern Baptist, maybe a deacon of an all white church.  In his daytime job he is  lower management of a ditch digging company.

He drinks secretly behind an old barn in Arkansas because his mother, who owns the farm, will not allow it in the house.  Once he loads up on some cheap Bourbon, he posts on zerohedge all night.   Then  he prays to the Lord asking for stuff for him and his family ,then passes out in his childhoold bed.

Slave's picture

I believe in the Bible too. And I believe Israel is the great whore from Revelations.

JLee2027's picture

OK, it's a free country. Welcome aboard, new Jew hater.

Demdere's picture

My answer is to correct the fundamental inustice : Israel drove the Palestinians off of their land, stole it.

It would have been a lot cheaper, in retrospect, to have patiently bought the land, as the costs of the wars and military has been very high.  That is still true.  Buy the land, pay off the dispossessed and save your souls.

It is very clear that Israelis are beocming bad guys, racists, extemists in religion and politics.  That is not good for my Jewish son, our Jewish family.

Frank N. Beans's picture

no other country in the ME wants to absorb the Pals; nobody wants them.  Israel has tried to live with them.  A 2-state solution is best but the Pals don't want it.

BigJim's picture

What are you talking about? Although Israel exercises de facto sovereignty over Gaza and the West Bank, the Palestinians in those territories have never had a chance to 'live with' the Israelis - they're not allowed in.

Furthermore, every time the Palestinians try to get the two-State solution off the ground, the Israelis deliberately torpedo it.

The zionists have, since he founding of Israel in 1948, managed to hoodwink world goyim into believing they want peace. They don't want peace; they want LAND, and they'll only 'want' peace after they've got every bit they assert their psycho god promised them. I estimate, at present rates, we'll see that in 20 years; it will be interesting to see if they stop there, or start annexing more of Syria, Egypt & Lebanon.

DaveyJones's picture

I see you've bought the standard narrative

alien-IQ's picture

It may be too late. And you may, sadly, find yourself being found in the eyes of many who see what's going on in Gaza to be guilty by virtue of being Jewish.

Why Jews have been kicked out of 109 countries since 250AD is becoming abundantly clear for all to see.

luckystars's picture

What country would take the mad dog israelis?

 

none

Canucklehead's picture

The Palis need to go somewhere where they feel love. They should be relocated to Qatar so they can be with their leadership.

BigJim's picture

Maybe it's the Israelis who should go somewhere they feel love, like New York, and the 'Palis' can go back to living on the land the zionists stole from them.

FrenchRevolutionary's picture

All the peopl arguing with you clearly are racist. Just accept that they're neo Nazi krauts and don't argue with them.

conscious being's picture

JLee is providing a useful, educational service. He's trotting out all the standard, lame arguments and seeing them blown up in his stupid face.

I think that's why SilverisKing, another Zino-troll, was trying to get JLee to shut-up and disappear, just up thread. JLee's MegaPhone connection must be busted.

He's making a laughing-stock out of the overly conflicted Zino-Cause. So maybe its better you stick around JLee and keep posting your nonsense. What else you got for this Homerun Derby that we can hit out of the park for you?

JLee2027's picture

While you disagree, you haven't disproven anything I've said. All you've done is state your opinion, using emotion and numbers, but not reason.

I've simply re-stated what the Holy Bible says. I believe the Bible, as do the Israelites and to be blunt, events since 1948 have proven the Bible to be true.

I make this post, not to convince you, as you have closed your mind, but there are others who will read this and realize the truth.

Quus Ant's picture

Yeshua, PBUH, reportedly said the follow ing words:

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" 

 

Take it up with your Lord and Savior.

alien-IQ's picture

By the way, this comment:

"Same group of guys with multiple aliases."

coming from you is nothing short of the high water mark of hypocrisy. you cannot prove that at all, while we can quite clearly prove that Israel pays people to spread propaganda.

JLee2027's picture

Every government on Earth spreads propoganda. And pays for it. So?

Peter Pan's picture

If you are a troll, you need to understand that your appearances here actually infame the anti Israeli sentiment and therefore are counterproductive to your mission.

If you are not a troll then you are a sad human being.

No one is saying Hamas are nice people that should be invited for a BBQ. What we are saying is that the collateral damage inflcted on civilians exceeds that inflicted on Hamas and therefore paints you as a rogue nation in the eyes of the world.

alien-IQ's picture

When 80% of the casualties are civilian, it ceases to be "collateral damage". It is outright targeting of civilians. No if's, and's, or but's about it. It is quite clear: Israel is guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. If the ICC can't prosecute them, then it's in the hands of the citizens of the world to punish them as we see fit. And I suggest they be shown the same compassion they are showing the people of Gaza.

Canucklehead's picture

Who is counting? Who actually prepares these numbers? Is Leonidas included in these numbers?

https://twitter.com/benjshapiro/status/490061497402671104

DaveyJones's picture

the sixth most sophisticated army in the world knows every square inch of that place and can pinpoint bomb with modern toys. Remember when they took out that Hamas leader in his car? When they hit civillians and kids they intend to. Hence the article's title and its prompt removal. Get a clue.  

Duffy's picture

Yeah - tons of disinfo coming out of the Maldives.

You're one of the worst - you aren't funny, and you don't know a fucking thing.

I demand to be entertained by you hasbarats!!!

Am I not not entertained???!!!

luckystars's picture

You wish that we have multiples, we don't. You have Hasbara multiples and you are still out numbered.

lol

Canucklehead's picture

Why do you lose all the time?

BigJim's picture

The zionists consistently lose the arguments here, even when they bother actually debating the facts, rather than the racist bullshit they tell themselves in order to sleep at night.

And that's why we're seeing so many new 'faces' popping up here to defend Israel; if they can't convince with quality, by God, they'll overwhelm the rest of us with quantity!

Jonesy's picture

That's right, I'm a new member, only 2 days!  I'm not sure how JLee thinks it helps his case that newer faces show up to bash Israel and the rats that love it.  It couldn't have anything to do with Israel blowing up little girls, could it?

JLee2027's picture

How many ZH aliases do you have?

BigJim's picture

I'm pretty sure you've only got one, because the arguments you employ are uniquely bone-headed.