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Internationalists Are Pushing The World Towards Globally Engineered Economic Warfare

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Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

Over a year ago I published an essay entitled 'The Linchpin Lie: How Global Collapse Will Be Sold To The Masses'. This essay addressed efforts by the ever malicious Rand Corporation to create a false narrative surrounding the possibility of global collapse. Linchpin Theory, as it was named by it's originator and Rand Corp. employee, John Casti, is I believe the very future of propaganda. Every engineered crisis needs a clever cover story, and in Linchpin Theory, we are told that all human catastrophe is a mere natural product of the “overcomplexity” within various systems. Yes, there is no accounting of false flag geopolitics or elitist conspiracy, no acknowledgment of deliberately initiated chaos; such things do not exist in the world of “linchpins”. Rather, the Rand Corporation would have us believe that the world is a massive game of Jenga, and the supporting pieces just remove themselves from the teetering structure by magical and coincidental causality.

Today, the linchpin lie is now being carefully inserted into the mainstream narrative. I can't say I was shocked to hear Alan Greenspan use its basic premise when he recently stated that:

I have come to the conclusion that bubbles…are a function of human nature. We don’t have enough observations, but my tentative hypothesis to what we’re dealing with is that both a necessary and sufficient condition for the emergence of a bubble is a protracted period of stable economic activity at low inflation. So it is a very difficult policy problem. I do believe that central banks that believe they can quell bubbles are living in a state of unrealism.”

It is important that we understand what Greenspan is actually doing here. The former Fed chairman is asserting that economic bubbles like the derivatives bubble of 2008 are a “natural function”, like the seasons, and are out of the control of central bankers. The truth is that central bankers have never tried to “quell” economic bubbles, they have been deliberately creating them in order to position the global economy into a crisis which they can then exploit. Greenspan is not only diverting blame for all the past and future economic crashes central banks have engineered, he is also setting the propaganda stage for a great change in the dynamic of the central banking concept - what the IMF's Christine Lagarde calls the “global economic reset”.

The current central banking structure gives the illusion of separation and sovereignty. Most people who have not researched the nature of the international banking cartel believe that the Federal Reserve, for instance, is a separate national entity from the Central Bank of Russia, or the Central Bank of China. They believe that these institutions act of their own accord rather than in concert with each other. The reality is, there is no Federal Reserve. There is no Central Bank of Russia. There are no separate entities. There are no Western banks and there are no BRICS. All of these banking edifices are merely front organizations for global financiers, as Council on Foreign Relations insider (and friend to the Rockefellers) Carroll Quigley made clear in his book, Tragedy And Hope:

"It must not be felt that the heads of the world's chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up, and who were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks. "

A “global economic reset”, I suspect, will consist of a grand shift away from covert cooperation between central banks to an OPENLY centralized one world banking system, predicated on the concepts put forward by the IMF and led by the Bank of International Settlements, which has always been behind the scenes handing down commandments to the seemingly separate central banks of nations.

In order for this “reset” to be achieved, however, the establishment needs a historically monumental distraction. A distraction so confounding and terrifying that by the time the public has a chance to examine the situation rationally, the elites have already tightened the noose.

I have been warning ever since the beginning of the derivatives/debt collapse of 2007/2008 that the international financiers and globalists who created the artificially low interest rates and fiat lending bonanza would one day be required to fashion a considerably dangerous event in order to trigger the final collapse of the dollar based monetary system and replace it with a new currency (or basket of currencies), along with a new centralized financial authority.

This distracting event would have to rely on three very important strategies in order to succeed -

1) The use of what I call the “scattershot effect”; a swarm of smaller crises growing exponentially until it blurs together to create one dynamic calamity.

2) The use of multiple false paradigms in order to confuse the masses and pit them against one another in an absurd fight over fake and meaningless causes.

3) The use of deceptive benevolence on the part of the financial elite as they tap dance in to act as global “mediators”, ready to save the public from itself.

The end result would be a new brand of “world war” rather unique to history.

When most people imagine WWIII, they immediately envision images of nuclear bombs and mushroom clouds, however, I believe that when world war erupts, it may progress far differently from our cinematic assumptions. Regional conflicts are very likely, there is no doubt, but if one places himself in the shoes of the elites, one realizes that all out mechanized nuclear Armageddon is not really necessary to achieve the desired result of global governance.

Economic warfare alone could be extremely effective in initiating full spectrum fiscal implosion as well as mass starvation, mass panic, and mass desperation. All the signs lead me to believe that financial combat and 4th generation warfare will be used in the place of large armies and missiles.

The Scattershot Effect

Consider the sheer scope and number of crisis situations that have reached explosive proportions just in the past six months.

Syria continues to destabilize due to ISIS insurgents supported by the U.S., Saudi Arabia, and Israel; it is a horrifying storm which is now bleeding into other nations such as Iraq.

Iraq is on the verge of complete disintegration as the same western organized ISIS moves towards the outskirts of Baghdad.

Libya has imploded, with the American embassy evacuated, as well as the French and British, as various militias battle for supremacy.

The Ukraine crisis is nearing mutation into another beast entirely after the attack on Malaysian flight MH17. In just the past week, the EU has instituted sanctions against Russia, fighting has become even more fierce around Donetsk, Russia has been accused of firing artillery into Ukraine, and the U.S. now claims that Russia has violated the terms of the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces treaty.

In the meantime, the Federal Reserve continues to taper QE3 while ignoring the unprecedented equities bubble they have birthed in the stock market, as well as refusing to answer the question as to who will actually buy U.S. Treasury debt if they do not? Our secret friend from Belgium? And what if this secret friend is, as I suspect, actually the IMF/BIS global loan shark duo? What then? Do we become yet another third world African-style debtor owing our very infrastructure to a financial bureaucracy on the other side of the world?

And what about the Baltic Dry Index, one of the few measures of global shipping demand that cannot be manipulated by outside money interests? Well, the BDI is back down to historic lows, falling 65% since January, signaling that the so-called “economic recovery” is not at all what it is cracked up to be.

Add to this the deluge of illegal immigration on the southern border, aided by the Obama Administration, as well as possible presidential impeachment and lawsuit proceedings, and you have a recipe for total chaos of the fiscal variety.

If the first six to seven months of 2014 have been this frenetic, how bad will the next six months be?

False Paradigms

We are all aware of the prevalence of the false Left/Right paradigm in American politics. Hopefully most people in the Liberty Movement understand, for example, that any impeachment or lawsuit proceedings against Barack Obama will be nothing more than a crafted circus designed to accomplish nothing – a con game to placate conservatives with useless top-down solutions while the country burns around their ears.

There are other false paradigms that are not so clear to some, though...

The false Israel/Hamas paradigm has certainly duped a particular subsection of Americans and even a few patriots, even though it is historical fact that the creation of Hamas itself was funded and supported by the Israeli government. Why do Israeli politicians put money and arms at the disposal of Muslim extremist groups like Hamas and ISIS, only to enter into brutal conflict with them later? Could it be that the Israeli government does not have the best interests of the Israeli people at heart? Could it be that Israel is being used by internationalists as a catalyst for chaos? It is vital that we question the intentions behind such contrary actions in the Middle East.

Why has the U.S. government (Democrats and Republicans), Saudi Arabia, and Israel put support behind the ISIS caliphate in Iraq after spending decades of time, billions in resources, and thousands of lives, attempting to overrun and dominate the region? Why are these governments creating enemies that will later try to harm us?

It is all about false paradigms; dividing the masses into numerous conflicting sides and pitting them against each other when they should be fighting against the elites.

The false East/West paradigm is perhaps the most dangerous lie facing free men today. It is a lie that may very well define our generation if not our century. I have outlined in multiple articles the substantial evidence that proves beyond a doubt that Russia and China are members of the globalist agenda, and that the tensions between our two hemispheres are completely fabricated.

The latest announcement of a BRICS bank to rival the IMF is yet another scheme to perpetuate the illusion that the elites of these nations are at odds. In fact, the BRICS conference mission statement makes it clear that developing nations have no intention of breaking from the IMF (and certainly not the BIS). Instead, the BRICS bank is meant to provide “leverage” to “force” the IMF to become more inclusive, and hand over more power and participation. Vladimir Putin had this to say at the latest summit:

In the BRICS case we see a whole set of coinciding strategic interests. First of all, this is the common intention to reform the international monetary and financial system. In the present form it is unjust to the BRICS countries and to new economies in general. We should take a more active part in the IMF and the World Bank's decision-making system. The international monetary system itself depends a lot on the US dollar, or, to be precise, on the monetary and financial policy of the US authorities. The BRICS countries want to change this.”

Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff insisted that the BRICS were not seeking to distance themselves from the Washington-based International Monetary Fund:

"On the contrary, we wish to democratize it and make it as representative as possible..."

Putin and the BRICS commonly rail against the “unipolar” financial system revolving around the U.S. dollar, but in the end they are only controlled opposition, and their solution is to place even more power into the hands of the IMF (a supposedly U.S. government controlled institution), creating a truly unipolar world order.  If the U.S. loses its IMF veto status this year due to lack of allocated funds, and the BRICS dump the dollar as world reserve, this may very well happen.

As sanctions between Russia and the U.S. snowball, a perfect rationalization for a dollar decoupling will be created that very few people would have believed possible only a few years ago.  It is only a matter of time before fiscal warfare escalates to destructive levels. Russia will inevitably cut off gas exports to the EU, and the BRICS will inevitably drop the U.S. dollar as a world reserve standard.

The U.S. relationship to the EU is also currently being presented as dubious, and this is not by accident. Failing relations between America and Germany are yet more theater for the masses to chew on. Western allies have been spying on each other for decades, but somehow the exposure of CIA activities in Germany is shocking news? The NY Fed suddenly attacks Deutsche Bank, seeking expanded monitoring and regulation? Germany's business interests are highly damaged by U.S. sanctions against Russia? It would seem as though someone is trying to create an artificial divide between elements of the EU and the U.S.

I believe that the narrative is being prepared for a faked financial breakup between the U.S. and many of its former allies, isolating the U.S., and destroying the dollar, but to what end? To answer that question, we must ask WHO ultimately benefits from these actions?

The Rise Of The Hero Bankers

In June of last year, the Bank of International Settlements, the central bank of central banks whose history began with the financial support of the Third Reich, released a statement warning that “easy money” from central banks was creating a dangerous bubble in stock markets around the world.

The IMF too has been pushing warnings of stock bubble collapse into the mainstream.

In June of this year, the BIS, a normally obscure and secretive organization, released another statement pronouncing that government had been led into a “false sense of security” by easy monetary policy and low interest rates, making the world economy perpetually unstable.

For an organization so covert and occult, the BIS sure has become rather candid lately. Frankly, I agree with everything they have said. However, I do not agree with the hypocrisy of the BIS, which dominates the decisions of all of its member banks, publicly criticizing policies which it most likely scripted itself. Why would the BIS suddenly denounce fiscal methods it used to promote? Because the BIS is setting itself up as the great prognosticator of a collapse that IT HELPED ENGINEER.

After the great financial war has subsided, and the people are suitably poverty stricken and desperate, it will be institutions like the BIS and IMF that swoop in to “save the day”. Their offer will be to consolidate economic control into the hands of an elite group of bankers “not affiliated” with any particular nation state, thereby insulating them from "political concerns". The argument will be that national sovereignty is a bane on the back of humanity. They will claim that the catastrophe will continue until we “simplify” and streamline our economic and political systems. They will present themselves as the heroes of the age; the ones who predicted the crisis would occur, and the ones who had a solution ready to save the day (after sufficient death and destruction, of course).

As long as people remain obsessed with false paradigms and faux enemies, the establishment's goal of complete centralized dominance will be predictably attainable. If we change our focus to the internationalists as the true danger instead of playing their game by their rules, then things will become far more interesting...

 

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Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:04 | 5036062 kliguy38
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you AINT in the club!!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:16 | 5036101 espirit
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De-globalization, Bitchez.

Bring it on.  Send the unwanted back home, keep our resources within reach.

Oh, and hang a bankster today!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:42 | 5036198 malek
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Overcomplexity is the correct diagnosis. However it was caused deliberately, and is kept up purposefully to not allow view of the simple truths underlying it.

Historically overcomplexity was most of the time removed by major wars.
If we don't realize it and change course ourselves, it will happen that way again.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:25 | 5036319 Anusocracy
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Overcomplexity = Government Bureaucracy = Massive Waste of Trillions of Man Hours of Labor

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:50 | 5037241 Raging Debate
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Anusocracy - I agree and time is money. Time is also the only commodity which cannot be bought so what was robbed cannot be replaced.

The article is concise on false narratives of east versus west. There was a 94 year old Reverend I spoke to back in 2009 from Canada. A shrewd, kind old owl type. He summed up governments (bankers and politicians same club why do you think Hillary Clinton wanted to be President of World Bank?) this way:

"Governments create chaos and make the people pay for it."

I think it is important to read material by highly decorated people that retired like Smedley Butler such as "War is a Racket".

I have come to realize that people pay the politicians to lie about ourselves collectively, that is there job and that is what tickles peoples ears so from that perspective it has a smidgeon of value in the political operators eyes.

All that said the Internet is a giant mirror we can no longer escape looking into it collectively. Ever look in your mirror at your home and not like what you see? It is most uncomfortable. You then have choices as the truth is right in front of you to take a more difficult path at first you know will be good for the long run or take what looks easy now but you know will pay for it later. Many choose the latter and we are human so I don't condemn. One loses twice not only from the results but by losing the evolutionary lesson offered and guaranteeing the same obstacles reemerging in the future. That is where we are at as a species now, being so interconnected all the time.

For political operatives, the choice was very easy because they directly do not pay any price in the long-term and they give the people what they want which is pain avoidance now for a steep price later. Such are drastically overpaid. It's analogous to paying a fast-food clerk $200 an hour to dole out tasty but destructive food (politician) while the grill cook (banker) makes $1,000 an hour and spiffs the clerk.

I appreciate those that educate like Brandon Smith in how the world really works, it enables proper perspectives to emerge and then decision making for posterity.

I see no reason to fight them or condone them. The people in Germany on the river Rhine had to deal with the Robber Barron's and there toll booths. They found alternative means of trade over time and life went on. However if ALL means of alternatives are now gone (and it may just be different this time) then I expect a real world war three. This will be from one or a few that breaks ranks in the aristocracy class. The BRICS may just do a total bait and switch. You might see Putin be a willing instrument of destruction by the bankers in regional conflict and then go full retard like Hitler. Or an American or Chinese version of the same story. That is because as human we are still playing king of the hill, it is our evolutionary tendency to still build government structures in the shape of a pyramid.

This is what 666 means in Revelations. It was the seal of Nero which he used to stamp the wax seal into. Consider Nero was 400 years after John of Patmos who wrote Revelations. 666 are geometric dimensions. 6x6x6x is a pyramid, monarchy. Makes you think of the pyramids and pharoahs doesn't it?

Government systems are tools. Man creates other tools using better dimensions like A/C power generation using a circular design. This is what needs to be built after the next world war. All I can do is educate a few with an ear and get out of the way best I can for when elephants dance, ants get trampled. The only good news is we are now in the last stages of evolution. After 12,000 years of pyramid management which always ends in colossal failure and suffering we'll build a better system but we won't need it long for we are evolving back to energy, back to the garden (que Crosby, Stills and Nash 'Stardust').

Did you know that solar cycles create disturbances in our magnetic field causing it to wobble, creating increased volcanism and polar wander? That began in 26 A.D. and culminated in 2012. Despite some casualties from nasty weather and tsunamis (caused by earth axis shifting 1-2 degrees) we're all still here despite all the fear mongering. Also couple other correlations for interest sake. 2012 was the Year of the Dragon in Chinese zodiac. 2012 was the end of the age of Pisces, a troubled sign and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius means "water of life". Christ said "I am with you till the end of this age." In greek age was aeon and related to astrological symbols. Those Christians with the fish symbol don't realize that is the sign of Pisces. That age begin in 26 AD and ended in 2012 in the western zodiac. This age will end with a pop and it plays out over decades as a transition, not one singular event. There is plenty of good news but between now and 2022 hedge with food, water and arms to defend that and help all you can mitigate the suffering. God bless all of you of all nations and peoples. I ask forgiveness for being misled to hate Russians or Chinese. I now know better. But now the world is being misled to hate the West, hate Americans. What a waste of time when we could be focusing on our final evolution. What good is winning the whole world when you lose yourself, shit your pants then die at 80-90?

Thank you for allowing me a voice here to discuss such things. The real problem with the current NWO is there is no democratic process involved so with no political voice I must choose to defend my interests locally. There is no Republic either meaning two sets of laws, one for the owners and one for the citizen. Therefore I must follow natural law, of what is good or bad in my heart.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:34 | 5037332 Seek_Truth
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"This is what 666 means in Revelations (sic)"

No it doesn't. Here is what 666 means:

“He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.” -Revelation 13:16-18

What is this “mark”, and what is the wisdom that reveals the meaning of “If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666”?

"Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold..."
1 Kings 10:14

“Now the weight of gold which came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold…” -2 Chronicles 9:13

The only other Scriptural mention of 666 is in the above two verses from the Old Testament. It is of note that these verses refer to Solomon, who in his early rulership as King of the united 12 tribes of Israel and Judah was noted for his righteous, godly, wisdom. But his later years, the beginnings of which are recorded in the verses quoted above, give a completely different picture. Continue reading in 2 Chronicles 9:13-29:

Solomon’s Wealth and Power
Now the weight of gold which came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold, besides that which the traders and merchants brought; and all the kings of Arabia and the governors of the country brought gold and silver to Solomon. King Solomon made 200 large shields of beaten gold, using 600 shekels of beaten gold on each large shield. He made 300 shields of beaten gold, using three hundred shekels of gold on each shield, and the king put them in the house of the forest of Lebanon. Moreover, the king made a great throne of ivory and overlaid it with pure gold. There were six steps to the throne and a footstool in gold attached to the throne, and arms on each side of the seat, and two lions standing beside the arms. Twelve lions were standing there on the six steps on the one side and on the other; nothing like it was made for any other kingdom. All King Solomon’s drinking vessels were of gold, and all the vessels of the house of the forest of Lebanon were of pure gold; silver was not considered valuable in the days of Solomon. For the king had ships which went to Tarshish with the servants of Huram; once every three years the ships of Tarshish came bringing gold and silver, ivory and apes and peacocks.
So King Solomon became greater than all the kings of the earth in riches and wisdom. And all the kings of the earth were seeking the presence of Solomon, to hear his wisdom which God had put in his heart. They brought every man his gift, articles of silver and gold, garments, weapons, spices, horses and mules, so much year by year. Now Solomon had 4,000 stalls for horses and chariots and 12,000 horsemen, and he stationed them in the chariot cities and with the king in Jerusalem. He was the ruler over all the kings from the Euphrates River even to the land of the Philistines, and as far as the border of Egypt. The king made silver as common as stones in Jerusalem, and he made cedars as plentiful as sycamore trees that are in the lowland. And they were bringing horses for Solomon from Egypt and from all countries.

Note how EVERY number above ten is mentioned in 100s or 1,000s, EXCEPT 666. Also note how 666 is “forced” as a unique number, that is, it is mentioned before the EXCEPTION of the additional gold brought from “besides that which the traders and merchants brought; and all the kings of Arabia and the governors of the country brought gold and silver to Solomon.” NOWHERE ELSE in the annals of the Kings is a number “forced” or not rounded. ALL other numbers are rounded to the nearest hundred or thousand. This is very significant.

Now compare Deuteronomy 17:14-17:

The King
When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, "Let us set a king over us like all the nations around us," be sure to appoint over you the king the LORD your God chooses. He must be from among your own brothers. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not a brother Israelite. The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the LORD has told you, "You are not to go back that way again." He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.

Take careful notice that the King, in this case Solomon, broke God’s laws:

The king was not to obtain great numbers of horses for himself (Solomon had 4,000 stalls for horses, and 12,000 horsemen).

The king, nor his people, were not to return to Egypt for more horses, but “they were bringing horses for Solomon from Egypt”.

Solomon was not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold, yet he made silver as common as stones, and gold vessels and ornaments abounded in his kingdom.

Solomon was not to take many wives, but Solomon took 700 wives and 300 concubines:

“Now King Solomon loved many foreign women along with the daughter of Pharaoh: Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian, and Hittite women, from the nations concerning which the LORD had said to the sons of Israel, “You shall not associate with them, nor shall they associate with you, for they will surely turn your heart away after their gods.” Solomon held fast to these in love. He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away. For when Solomon was old, his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and his heart was not wholly devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites. Solomon did what was evil in the sight of the LORD, and did not follow the LORD fully, as David his father had done. Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the detestable idol of Moab, on the mountain which is east of Jerusalem, and for Molech the detestable idol of the sons of Ammon. Thus also he did for all his foreign wives, who burned incense and sacrificed to their gods.” - 1 Kings 11:1-8

So Solomon, the man on whom god bestowed righteous, godly wisdom in his early years as King, turned from God, and instead became filled with unrighteous, wicked, selfish “wisdom” and its desires. He became an idol worshipper, idolizing his power, wealth, and sex. He became the prototypical beast of Revelation, after whose example all successive beasts have patterned themselves, idolizing and worshipping power, wealth, and sex, rather than God.

Solomon was the prototype, the original, 666, a man who would be "god". He relied on his earthly "wisdom", rather than on true wisdom from God.

In this way he prefigured all who forge ahead (without God, against God), in their own "wisdom", rather than relying on God.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:13 | 5037423 Raging Debate
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Seek_Truth - Revelations is a book about the end of an age, I assume you have read the entirety of it? It discusses governments and there behavioe in great detail. What I provided was an indicator regarding 666 which is geometry other scripture in Revelations is an angel showing John a "New Jerusalem" using a measuring stick for the dimensions of that place.

It is interesting in the above reference about a New Jerusalem that the only other place in the bible 666 is mentioned is Solomon who built the first temple in Jerusalem.

But I disagree with your general opinion on the matter. Readers here should read Revelations on there own in it's entirety. I am a Pandeist which if you read the bible what Christ was. It is a scientific approach to biblical writing than theological which is how Christians endlessly argue. On that matter I refer to Paul who when writing to churches arguing over theology "Above all use reason."

As for the mark of the beast, the micro-chip for such was invented by a company called Digital Angel. I believe the year was 1997. In any event it was bought out or changed it's name to Veriteq:
http://www.veriteqcorp.com/

I have seen your arguments that the mark of the beast is symbolic that it isn't a skin or forehead implant of this chip but a general trade pattern usong barcodes that was already implemented. I disagree with that argument also. Forget which country has implemented the implant but pretty sure it was Bosnia. A trial balloon of acceptance. I also see no refute on the historic, non-biblical reference of the seal of Nero, " the empire that was" as the Roman empire referenced by the angel to John. Again, readers should read the entire book of Revelations themselves. You did not debate the correlationa of other cultures such as the Greek or Chinese zodiacs nor did you address the science of solar cycles 26 A.D. to 2012. There is more information to cross-reference then one book you know. There scientific literature, historic literature, news all kinds of neat stuff.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:23 | 5037458 SuperRay
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Maybe we should ask Gandalf...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:40 | 5037478 Seek_Truth
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First of all it's NOT "Revelations (sic)", it's Revelation.
Second, it takes a lot more than reading Revelation once or a couple of times.
Third, it takes studying the entire Bible along with historical and current events. (Repeatedly, with meditation and organized note keeping).
Fourth, it takes prayer for God's Holy Spirit, to reveal the meaning of Biblical prophecy.
Fifth, given the above, the Bible is self contained, it contains everything necessary to interpret itself if one follows the aforementioned statements.
Finally, it takes time (lots of it), diligence, and sincerity to understand the Bible.

To illustrate yet again how wrong Biblical know nothings are regarding the mark, or seal, on the forehead:

What is the Mark, or Seal, or Name of The Beast on the forehead mentioned in Revelation? Are there other marks on the forehead discussed in Scripture?

Upon searching the Scriptures for the keyword “Forehead”, we find 24 Scriptures where the word is found.
Nine of these verses refer to a different context than our intended purpose (Lev 13:41-43; Num 24:17, 1 Sam 17:49; 2 Chron 26:19-20; Jer 48:45; Ezek 3:9; Isa 48:4)
That leaves 15 Scriptures to study:
1. Exodus 13:9
This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the LORD is to be on your lips. For the LORD brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand.
2. Exodus 13:16
And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead that the LORD brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand.”
3. Exodus 28:36-38
Make a plate of pure gold and engrave on it as on a seal: HOLY TO THE LORD. Fasten a blue cord to it to attach it to the turban; it is to be on the front of the turban. It will be on Aaron’s forehead, and he will bear the guilt involved in the sacred gifts the Israelites consecrate, whatever their gifts may be. It will be on Aaron’s forehead continually so that they will be acceptable to the LORD.
4. Deuteronomy 6:6-8
These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.
5. Deuteronomy 11:18
Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.
Notice that Aaron’s plate was worn on a turban on the forehead, but none of these were literal marks on the forehead or hand. What did they mean? “That this law of the LORD is to be on your lips”, “that the LORD brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand”, “so that they will be acceptable to the LORD”, “These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Talk about them…”, “Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds”. The message is clear- to have this figurative “mark on the forehead/hand meant that they were to constantly meditate on and talk about God’s commandments, His mighty acts of salvation, to love Him with all their heart and mind. What kind of people would do this? People who are acceptable to the LORD. Were these marks literal? No.
Now let’s look at prophetic instances of the “Mark”:
6. Ezekiel 9:4
and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.”
7. Revelation 7:3
“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
8. Revelation 9:4
They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.
9. Revelation 14:1
[ The Lamb and the 144,000 ] Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.
10. Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
11. Revelation 22:4
They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads.
12. Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
These prophetic Scriptures refer to past events as well as current/future events. Notice who gets this mark? People who “grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done”, “are servants of our God”, and they are “not to (be) harm(ed)”. What kind of people are these? People who are acceptable to the LORD. Were these marks in Ezekiel literal? No. So, for thousands of years these “marks” are not literal. Should we then expect that the “mark” on the foreheads of the servants of God would be literal? Of course not. This “ Mark” is figurative- it indicates that one is acceptable to God, a servant of God.
The name, or mark of The Harlot:
13. Revelation 17:5
The name written on her forehead was a mystery: BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Babylon the Great (as covered elsewhere in this publication) is a figurative entity. She is the world “money power” – the fiat currency, fractional reserve, financial, monetary, credit system that the governments, merchants and nations rely on and are seduced by. This mark, or name, is again, figurative. All those who worship Mammon, Money, wealth, riches and the power it brings have this mark.
The mark of The Beast (out of the earth):
14. Revelation 13:18
It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
This scripture refers to the beast out of the earth. It has 2 horns like a lamb, but speaks like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the 1st beast (out of the sea). It makes the earth’s inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. It performs great signs, causing fire to come down from heaven. It deceived the people of earth, ordered them to set up an image to the first beast that was wounded yet lived. It gives breath to the image of the first beast so that the image could speak and cause all who refuse to worship the image of the first beast to be killed.
15. Revelation 14:9
A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand,

The beast out of the sea is the world’ political governments, as elaborated on elsewhere in Revelation, Daniel, etc. The beast out of the earth is another figurative entity. Since these Beasts are figurative entities, will this mark of the beast be literal or figurative? This mark, or seal, is again, figurative. It represents the way a human lives their life- in obedience to God, or obedience to something else. Those are the “marks” or “seals” discussed in Revelation. “Blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.”-Luke 11:28

Now try comprehending the above, remember, it's going to take time, something that most will never dedicate to even understanding the importance of the above information.

I have spent the vast majority of my life studying this, well over four decades on eschatology alone, so excuse me if I am unimpressed with the understanding of Biblical prophesy entertained by neophytes such as yourself.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:16 | 5037534 Raging Debate
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Seek_Truth - Your arguments have now devolved to ad hominem. If your trying to teach, how can you draw students with that approach?

You made an assumption I have not read the bible cover to cover. I read the bible cover to cover four times. Like Christ, I like to to teach like him. He did not drown his listeners to endless citing of verse. People know wisdom when they hear it especially when used with effective use of questions and analogies (used to be referenced as parables). If the people in general have 't read the literature for themselves to form there own opinion as I encouraged how does citing verses help?

"Revelations" refers to plurality of the visions, splitting hairs over the singularity of the book title does not make your interpretation of the subject matter any more valid. You did not address the historic, Greek or Chinese cultural or scientific corollaries mentioned in tying up the ending of an age which was my point. 666 is an additional biblical indicator of the timeline. However, doctors, lawyers, scientists and accountants all use three or four data points in analysis to form theory which is what I postulated. Your using one source, one data point which is barely above 50% accuracy - in other words your guessing. Flipping a theological coin for forty years does not result in truth. At four data points, statistical analysis is close to 90%. Then the scientific method should be used against the theory which theologists tend to ignore (why I loved that Reverend in Canada who did do this).

Prophecy is statistical probability at the quantum level. It involves thousands of data points. I like reading literature from a lot of places including Bhuddism, Hinduism, Quantum Physics, Economics, Politics and History. I am a Pandeist and that is what I concluded Christ also was. I no longer attend church to have endless debate over scripture (As Paul said "above all use reason" on his writing to squabbling churches) and being told by Assembly of God drinking is not permitted. So Christ and apostles can get buzzed on wine but I can't? Organized religion is a bane, it was argued against by Christ himself. How about Catholic Priests being forbidden to marry? Peter had a vision of a religion that would do such running contrary to nature "be fruitful, become many fill the earth."
It is ironic that the Catholic church built there denomination on Peter, The Rock' as Christ called him but they ignored Peter's own admonishment in this important regard. Maybe, the Priests wouldn't be molesting alter boys. But let's throw around more bible verse!

It is written in the old testament that you will know a prophet by if what he says comes true. Many here have seen my repeated mention of the Yuan becoming reserve currency and other financial matters. My intent is not vanity but mitigation of suffering and promotion of posterity. What is your intentions? I have never seen you state them.

In any event I prefer the title statistical analysts which is part of what I do for daytime work over "prophet" which makes one sound eccentric and outdated. The title prophet is outdated so your use of clinging to it does not seem conducive to teaching, using 1st century and prior terms and titles in the 21st century. No wonder people do not wish to read the bible cover to cover.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 15:15 | 5038224 flapdoodle
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It seems to me there is a category of people that worship formulas. If you run into someone like that, flee!

Those who take religious dogma too seriously fall into that category, as do ideologues, and most scientists.

Alfred Korzybski had the ultimate antidote to formula worship, which IMHO should be everyones guiding light (or course, in so doing I fall into the same trap!).

So even if its not your quiding light, one needs to take to heart the Korzybski's admonition (popularized by Timoth Leary)

The map is not the territory

All formulas, all books all "knowledge" is just maps which try to make some sense of this world, but in themselves are just, well, maps.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 17:21 | 5038608 mc225
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--the map is not the territory--   did a.e. van vogt get that from korzybski or vice versa?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 18:45 | 5038709 Seek_Truth
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So far you’ve made the following claims regarding Bible prophecies that are demonstrably false:

1-      666 is Nero’s seal and a pyramid, etc. See above for proof you are wrong.

2-      The Mark of the Beast is a microchip. See above for proof you are wrong.

3-      Jesus is/was a pantheist. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of YHWH, the Father. He is therefore a Monotheist, just as all true Christians are. The writings of the early church fathers- Justin Martyr, for example, make this clear.

Furthermore:

1-      I never assumed anything regarding how many times you've read the Bible. Your admission that you read it only 4 times is admission enough that you are a novice/neophyte when it comes to understanding the Bible.

2-      You say that Christ “did not drown his listeners to endless citing of verse”. Yet Christ quoted the Old Testament at least 78 times : http://www.kalvesmaki.com/LXX/NTChart.htm He quoted it precisely for the same reasons I quote it: understanding prophecy.

3-      You asked: “If the people in general have 't (sic) read the literature for themselves to form there (sic) own opinion as I encouraged how does citing verses help? Answer: That is precisely why I quoted every relevant Scripture, so that even novices such as yourself could take the time to read, comprehend, and meditate on those Scriptures immediately, rather than taking decades to put them together after much research. “Their own opinion” is a moot point, as all sincere persons praying for Holy Spirit will come to the same conclusion. I have personally witnessed this.

4-      You stated: “Your (sic) using one source, one data point which is barely above 50% accuracy - in other words your (sic) guessing.” Answer: And you are using screwdrivers, chisels, clamps and a chainsaw, when a chainsaw alone does a cleaner, quicker, truer job. All that useless stuff gets in the way and prevents you from getting to the goal you seek. To interpret the Bible, God’s word, one uses the Bible. The Bible itself reveals this: “and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; for God is not a God of confusion…” – (1 Corinthians 14:32,33). “All Scripture {no other source} is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” – (2 Timothy 3:16,17). “This will be my third visit to you. "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses."” – (2 Corinthians 13:1) What two or three witnesses would be better than the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? The Bible is the word of God, and it itself is used to interpret the Bible- not some outside, pagan, non inspired source.

Having said all that- As far as denominations (which are actually franchises), drinking (which is just fine, Drunkenness is the sin, just as eating is fine yet Gluttony is a sin), pederasts, claims of Peter “founding” the Catholic church (that would be Constantine in the 4th century), we are 100% in agreement.

As you alluded to- true interpretations of prophecy come true, false interpretations do not. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Time is running short, the Sixth Seal will be opened next Spring, rapidly followed by the following chapters of Revelation (not Revelations, lol). Believers and mockers alike will see these things occur.

You asked: What is my intention? My intention is to make these things known.

I have given you enough information to make a great leap forward in your understanding of Biblical prophecy. What you do with it is up to you.

For the vast majority in this PC world, this_sums_things_up.

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:38 | 5048090 Felix da Kat
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In Kabballa, the letter "W" has a numerical value of six. This is why the term "World Wide Web" was chosen. All internet users acquiesce to the "666".

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:15 | 5036610 DoChenRollingBearing
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This article is long and complicated, and I cannot address it adequately other than offering some observations on the "BRICS Bank".  The author is right that the "BRICS Bank" is dependent on US dollars (uh, gold is not mentioned in any of the founding documents), and that their two new institutions (the New Develpment Bank: "NDP" and the Contigent Reserve Arrangement: "CRA") look a lot like the World Bank and the IMF...

It's in the treaties!  See below for some details:

"The BRICS Bank: A First Look"

http://goo.gl/rMqBNC

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:11 | 5036849 Ghordius
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agree. adequately? one comment alone can't address, only scratch the surface

the article also steers towards this very curious meme that is circulating, i.e. "it's all kabuki"

I presume it has it's roots in the criticism of the political party duopoly, where it's "they are both the same", and in the simplicism of "don't bother to..."

investment banking and capital markets are fundamentally a different thing from traditional banking, for example, and only in the sphere of influence of Wall Street and the City of London this distinction is difficult to make, yet this influence is global, but not total

as the influence of the West, or the influence of the mentioned Rand Corp, or the influence of the FED, etc. etc.

yes, some entities and polities pretend to be more independent or sovereign that what they really are, yet this is the very source of every independence or sovereignty. it starts with a claim, like a teenager telling it's parents that he wants to live in his own place asap, or a bunch of unimportant, underpopulated colonies stirring revolutionary and independentist thoughts. and sometimes it's in potentia, patiently waiting it's turn and time

smaller participants, be them countries, corporations, banks or even many oligarchs, often follow the flow. or accept - temporarily - some of the game rules of the bigger participants. it's easy to paint them as "fixture" of the bigger participant's game, then, but take their influence away...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:47 | 5037057 what's that smell
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"do you want to hear the story of right hand left hand?..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X20XIg38GcE

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:17 | 5036859 Oracle 911
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Gold is not mentioned in publicly available documents (fixed for ya). Because there can be some secret documents and agreement between founding states. I know these things are hardly kept in secret to long, but it can be kept secret long enough in front of public. Anyway with enough (insider) information and with working brain anybody can figure out what is going on, but for details you need well intelligence/espionage.

Not to mention both parties want the circus go on, at least now:

1st The west/banking cartel want preserve  the status quo which means keeping the US$ and other Ponzi scheme on at whatever cost, and than on right time collapse everything (and after sacrifice of some scapegoats) present themselves as saviors and the bringer of good times (it would be the worst dictatorship ever).

2nd The BRICS want buy every real asset (production capacities, companies with interesting patent, commercial buildings, gold silver, farmland etc)  for these paper currencies at reasonable (cheap?) price. When nothing they will blow up the system.

 

Now and the question: Who have the better plan, better execution and the support from above?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 05:36 | 5036963 zhandax
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Are publicly-registered documents that at least two of the signatories are amassing record gold purchases of significance?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:11 | 5037031 Oracle 911
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China and Russia (the governments) are buying gold like crazy, last time it was about 19 tones of gold bought by Russia. And about 600 tones goes trough Swiss gold refineries yearly. Not to mention the rumored Russian "two-headed eagle" gold coin.

 

So, yes they are documents, but they are not telling the purpose of the gold buying. One way or another, they are preparing for something big.

 

EDIT:

I forgot to mention in my previous post, this current system is not good for BRICS countries too. So they will collapse it to, in the right time and it is a closer date than the Western scheme. BUT they are offering a alternative which will be economically better (some kind of international workers cooperative) but I don't know if it will be a freer system.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:11 | 5037426 pFXTim
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Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:03 | 5037796 JRobby
Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:05 | 5036069 ramacers
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just ready the blade. a few baskets with heads in them can work wonders.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:08 | 5036073 ekm1
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Quote:

 

"It must not be felt that the heads of the world's chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up, and who were perfectly capable of throwing them down"

 

 

Will you be convinced now that Fed per se has zero power, or do I have to continue over and over and over to repeat it?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:33 | 5036079 ekm1
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This is De-globalization due to De-Dollarization.

 

Globalization cannot survive without a single world currency as reserve.

 

De-dollarization leads to De-globalization

which leads to reduction of world trade

which leads to world economic contraction

which leads to economic misery

which leads to ........expansion of wars in the world

 

It is that simple.

Careful what you wish for, seeing world pursuing de-dollarization due to Voluntary Military Disengagement by USA.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:47 | 5036211 robertocarlos
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It doesn't have to lead to war. Americans should take their reduced living standard like men.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:10 | 5036229 ekm1
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All world suffers from reduction of world trade.

Assuming americans do, other parts of the world won't which would lead to local wars which would lead to less and less trade

 

Worse for all

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:23 | 5036795 old naughty
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eh, think out of the Matrix...

will universal trade suffers from reduction of world trade, it's not likely that they have BDI?

Assuming americans do, other parts of the universe won't...

Alien warning of reset

Truth (hope) is out there.

Phoenix Rising: Vision of a New America
Sat, 08/02/2014 - 05:40 | 5036968 zhandax
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Best thing that could happen is this country becomes a trade pariah and starts making their own shit again.  You can bet that is not part of the master plan.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:55 | 5036233 Anusocracy
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Balderdash.

There is a worldwide contraction coming because of Fed printing, government growth, government debt, government obligations, lack of free trade, technological advances, among other things.

This will expose government for the failure that it is and war is the cover story the governments will use to avoid blame.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:26 | 5036736 AGoldhamster
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"which leads to economic misery"

RUBBISH - the opposite is true - because jobs and manufacturing will come back.

But of course it will hurt some oligarchs.

(noteworthy you care about oligarchs - should we start whining now?)

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:08 | 5036078 LetThemEatRand
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Divide and conquer.  An oldie but a goodie.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:31 | 5036343 homme
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Have chainsaw. Will travel.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:09 | 5036080 SelfGov
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The power of the "elites" comes from fossil fuels.

The switches and levers they normally use to make things happen with have less and less of an effect as net energy declines.

Don't fear the elites. Fear thermodynamics.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:18 | 5036302 Dapper Dan
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The following is essential in filling in gaps and answering questions. Whether or not you've read this masterpiece in the past, it is worth another look. If you are like me, you will find something new that you didn't see before.

 

http://fofoa.blogspot.com/search?q=Stormclouds+Gather...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:01 | 5036700 DoChenRollingBearing
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+++++

Many of FOFOA's past articles continue to amaze me.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:07 | 5037075 SelfGov
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Great read!

It is interesting to note that US peak production preceded almost every single significant event mentioned in that blog post.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:12 | 5036087 blindman
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Buckminster Fuller - Everything I Know - session 06 (entire) - January 25, 1975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6jP6Ja5xsQ&feature=channel&list=UL

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:23 | 5036313 ramacers
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was only able to watch a small chunk of this today. but, man, what a gem. kudos. i get it.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:43 | 5037671 Raging Debate
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Blindman - Great link! Love Buckminster Fuller's methods of creating theory by comparing one science verses another such as biology and physics. In this case a trade verse physics.

Leonard Susskind was a plumber that became a great quantum theorist. He beat Stephen Hawking in proving that informarion stored in energy that passed through a black hole would not be destroyed (see the Black Hole War).

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:14 | 5036095 Cacete de Ouro
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The Group of Thirty

Who devised the Group of Thirty (G30)? - David Rockefeller

"Geoffrey L Bell, who founded the Group of Thirty at the invitation – and with the money – of the Rockefeller Foundation, commented, “The idea of ‘30’ was to have a good cross-section of people from around the world… but not so many that you couldn’t have a good discussion.”

http://andrewgavinmarshall.com/tag/geoffrey-bell/

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:57 | 5036244 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ah, a "Financial Sanhedrin".
So, who's Caiaphas?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:00 | 5037539 Cacete de Ouro
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who is Caiaphas?

Well, given that the central banker agents are obviously not Caiaphas, then the financiers and instigators would spring to mind; Rockefellers and possibly Schroders.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:18 | 5036109 NoDecaf
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"everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face"

 

this applies to central planners as well.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:09 | 5036270 gobsmack
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Excellent. I'm at a loss though how to hit them. What would be the right cross? The uppercut? Haymaker?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:44 | 5036549 El Vaquero
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The 155 Palma.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:21 | 5036114 Jack Burton
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To be honest, nobody has yet come up with a plausable explaination of what the Untied States and Israeli government is trying to do on the world stage. In the past several years they have sought to destroy countries, support terrorists and foment wars as fast as they can. The ultimate exposure of their drive to spread war is Washington and Israel's success in gaining a nazi coup in Kiev and then demanding that the coup use military forces to attack and destroy 8 million ethnic Russians who inhabit the Donbass. That war is now offered Washington a chance to start a new cold war and even a proxy direct attack on Russia.

Somebody in Washington is seeking chaos and war across vast regions, and using the CIA, NSA, Israel, The State Department, Military Intelligence and Special forces to sow destruction.

Who is it, and what is their end game plan? I have yet to find the plausable answer to that. But the USA support for ISIS and Al-Qaeda, and a Nazi minority in West Ukraine seems to point to the military industrial complex seeking endless war and threats of war to ensure their control over America and grand profits from war making. Bankers and Israel are also the right hand of whoever is doing these acts.

If you figure out just who is behind it, let me know.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:29 | 5036147 LetThemEatRand
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You already hit on/called the answer.  MIC and bankers are behind it.

The End Game is global domination.  In today's world there are still rules that apply to these guys, however watered down.  In tomorrow's world, they aim to live completely outside the rules.  Like all royalty through the ages.   It's no conspiracy theory to say that there are those among us who want to live unrestrained by all rules and law.  The last couple of hundred years were an anomoly.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:33 | 5036161 Chief Wonder Bread
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'They' live completely outside the rules now.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:09 | 5036274 Anusocracy
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This applies to the 'democratic' order of the world's governments - except that the BRICS want to secede.

Iron law of oligarchy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The iron law of oligarchy is a political theory, first developed by the German sociologist Robert Michels in his 1911 book, Political Parties.[1] It claims that rule by an elite, or oligarchy, is inevitable as an "iron law" within any democratic organization as part of the "tactical and technical necessities" of organization.[1] Michels used anecdotes from political parties and trade unions, who supported democratic reforms to build his argument in 1911. Michels particularly addressed the application of this law to representative democracy, and stated: "It is organization which gives birth to the dominion of the elected over the electors, of the mandataries over the mandators, of the delegates over the delegators. Who says organization, says oligarchy."[1] He went on to state that "Historical evolution mocks all the prophylactic measures that have been adopted for the prevention of oligarchy."[1] Michels stated that the official goal of representative democracy of eliminating elite rule was impossible, that representative democracy is a façade legitimizing the rule of a particular elite, and that elite rule, that he refers to as oligarchy, is inevitable.[1] Later Michels migrated to Italy and joined Benito Mussolini's Fascist Party, as he believed was the next legitimate step of modern societies. The thesis became popular once more in post-war America with the publication of Union Democracy: The Internal Politics of the International Typographical Union (1956) and during the red scare brought about by McCarthyism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:24 | 5036630 Chief Wonder Bread
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Organization itself gives rise to oligarchy. Now do you see why it's dangerous to take the red pill?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:37 | 5036810 old naughty
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"They" live completely outside the 3D plane.

Fear and nuclear energy are their food.

They own our global mind...Take the pill, detach and be fear-less...

"There's no fear beneath where the soul flies."

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:01 | 5036837 svayambhu108
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Every form of hierarchy is bound for corruption that's why anarchy was saw by intelligent people as the answer. Although I cannot see how well goes that in practice.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:22 | 5037099 SelfGov
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Systems tend to organize themselves in the presence of large energy gradients.

Consume a lot of fossil fuel as a group and organization will emerge no matter how badly one wants to stop it. It is thermodynamics and isn't a, "problem." Nothing can be done to, "solve," the laws of thermodynamics. All we can do is come up with mitigating responses to it.

The best response is to limit growth intentionally. That is why having a gold standard is more stable than pure fiat. The size of the organization is limited by the amount of gold that can be mined and economic overshoot is prevented.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:13 | 5037284 RaceToTheBottom
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Interesting point, thanks.  Small is beautiful has more than beauty as its merits...

 

Sun, 08/03/2014 - 00:49 | 5037839 Citxmech
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I believe that there is a bit of cognitive dissonance among the folks who accept the premise of a "deeper" global conspiracy on this site - for very understandable reasons.  

Most seem to accept that global banking interests (from at least the Rothschilds forward) pretty much have a lock on their consolidation of power (let me issue currency and I care not who makes the laws. . . ).  

A unified world government doesn't need a single seat of political power anymore than the abolition of States in the US would help to consolidate Federal power.  The Feds already run the show for all intent.  The lines of separation are mainly historical artifacts kept for show and to satisfy the popular tendency for a bit of regionalism.

On the other hand, most folks here also seem to see that "stressors" in the system are acting to increase conflict and decrease profitable global trade.  Some say that this is part of the plan as a step toward a (political) world government.  Others see it as a result of dwindling resources limiting growth/over-population.

Personally, I'm beginning to think that each of these two perspectives are not really opposed - but are actually in line with each other.

Executive Summary:

When resources exceed the utilization potential of the captive consumer population - you have growth potential.  Growth being the fuel for global banking power.  As the demand for resource consumption starts to outstrip supply, the global banking system starts to fall apart (failure of exponential growth, results in deflationary default/hyper-inflation).  

In the presence of environmental over-shoot, political localization and the contraction of industrial production is the obvious response - but this will not work for the global elite.  As a result, banking interests are under extreme pressure to resist the fracturing of their kingdom.  What we are seeing, I believe, is a symptom of the banking elite's efforts to resist localization and to preserve their lock on global power.  

Essentially, the military is the enforcement arm of the political machine, and the political machine is the combined tool of corporate and banking interests.  

In the presence of a functioning global fiat system of banking - there was never any reason for reorganizing the existing system - they had all the lock on power they could have wanted.  As this debt-based foundation of their power crashes under its own weight, however, now they are lashing-out at any break-away upstarts in order to try and lock-up resources and preserve their power.  I don't think the banking elite can stay unified for long enough to pull-off  anything like an effective feudal world government - as competition for regional resources rewards dissension among the ranks of the elite.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 17:55 | 5038706 123dobryden
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if i can put to your attention the fact that with gold standard, we would get far far more growth actualy as capital would not be squandred on a massive scale as we see at the moment but put into more productive long-tem balanced contiuous growth

Sun, 08/03/2014 - 00:53 | 5039608 Citxmech
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It would certainly be more quality growth, i.e., carefully considered, and risk averse.

Sun, 08/03/2014 - 19:59 | 5041995 Chief Wonder Bread
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Depends on how you define "growth."

I think you're correct that capital wouldn't be squandered as much. Growth would be 'smoother' (fewer bubbles) and there would be greater net real capital formation over the long-term. Thus, we would be wealthier as a society.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:10 | 5036267 Kirk2NCC1701
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Who? Well, if you're religulous, a theist, a fundamentalist, you can blame the Antichrist.

I'd demand a better model.

I'm partial to ET Clingons, leveraging dumbass humans. The best candidates are smart, close - knit groups, who have traditionally been outsiders.  E.g., Zionists, LGBT, sociopaths, sycophants.

No more "out there" than "Antichrist". Unless the two are the same, as some Bible thumpers are now suggesting.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:18 | 5037846 Raging Debate
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Kirk - The better governence model is 5D or circular vs. 3D as I mentioned in my reference in the thread above using the example of A/C power generation. However, the 3D model will have to break once again as it always does before such a system can be built. Break doesn't mean you or I have to use a hammer to do it either. People eventually abandon tools that do not work.

To me, antichrist was never a person but a system. 3D or sides are spatial dimensions, a pyramid. What Christ taught was love your neighbor as yourself. Doing that means trade becomes perpetual, 5D and circular. Pyramids of monarchies in 3D means one small group at the top tells others what to do using the threat of force at the top of the pyramid. It is more of a lesson in physics and thermodynamics than religion. Besides, yesterdays religion is becoming todays science.

There are strong correlations between religions and higher maths. For example the Egyptians and algebrae or Cult of Pythagoras and triginometry. Science and theology work best in tandem rather than some feeling the need to choose one over the other.

200 years ago if you said that we'll be immortal one day the scientific community would have laughed at you. Non-theologists would have too. But no need for laughter, that tech is becoming reality. But HOW that happens is equally as important as WHY that happens and just saying "god" only MAY address the why.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:10 | 5036275 Crawdaddy
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Who is behind IT? Bad guys. Enabled by central banking. End the Fed and checkbook money across the world and they will loose, we win.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:37 | 5036662 MiltonFriedmans...
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Ending central banking is a dangerous business, just ask JFK and Lincoln, a few prominent names from American history who did more than give the idea lip service.
The idea that these banksters are the antichrist may not be far removed from reality.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:52 | 5037749 Raging Debate
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Jack Burton - A quote that might clarify the why or who gains:

"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."

- Napolean Boneparte

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:23 | 5036129 nmewn
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Well stated.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:26 | 5036138 Chief Wonder Bread
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You do realize that WW1, Roaring 20s, Great Depression and WW11 was one event, don't you?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:16 | 5036295 Implied Violins
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Just started reading 'Call it Conspiracy' by Larry Abraham (1985), a re-touched version of 'None dare call it Conspiracy" by Gary Allen (1971). You are dead right about that one event thing. That book is a must-read, numero-uno for anyone interested in banking history.

Know what I found on page 286? Something so relevant it is incredibly eerie for something written 30 years ago - a quote:

Desperation Moves

"...The Establishment conspirators will do their best to keep people calm with respect to the solvency of the big banks, and keep them worried about the solvency of the economy in general. They need more power. They need more control over the private decisions of individuals. They will try to scare the public into granting them what they want. We can expect to see a steady loss of confidence on the part of the public concerning political and economic leaders. We can also expect to see the imposition of emergency economic controls as the economy unravels. The dollar will eventually tumble, throwing the world trading economy into a crisis. The answer will be the same three-point program of Keynesians and liberals everywhere: taxation, regulation, and inflation."

Even more prophetic is the next paragraph:

"...They would like to get a new Constitution to accomplish their goals. If voters can be frightened into allowing a Constitutional convention or similar event, the Establishment will shove a new Constitution down our throats. One very possible excuse: a wave of Latin American refugees streaming across the border, and having children who automatically become U.S. citizens. Racial and national feelings could easily be fanned into flames that could consume historic U.S. liberties."

A bonus if they are infected with diseases and sent all over the country. To increase the chaos, of course.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:28 | 5036802 Implied Violins
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You know what I just realized?

I was nodding off in bed when I had this thought: I bet those motherfuckers used Abraham's book as a fucking guideline on how to bring everything down, as a way to mock him. I mean, Abraham and Allen were pains in their asses printing these books and exposing their secrets, and they suffered (well, somewhat) for it: the first book sold 4 million copies and should have been listed on the best-seller lists of the time, but it never was. I wonder why...

It's these guys M.O. to not only fuck us, but to arrogantly mock us while they do it. I mean, just look at the money in your wallet. Who's on the 20? Jackson. He HATED bankers. I'm sure Franklin ain't too happy either. And JFK? Who wanted to keep our pocket change silver? Well, they killed him, then put his likeness on the fucking copper dime the following year.

Time to wake up, folks. These assholes needed to go a long time ago.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:25 | 5037866 Raging Debate
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Implied Violins - Great post! Thank you.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:26 | 5036324 ramacers
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actually, this is true.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:28 | 5036145 22winmag
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Hey internationalist bankers...

 

Flingin, I'm slingin my hammer like Thor  
No singin, bringin it raw to the core  
Shogun assassin maxin in a limousine
You stick your head in, out comes the guillotine


Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:39 | 5036181 Crawdaddy
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2nd biggest buldings in every town - churches

Banks are first, churches are 2nd. Bankers and priests break bread and work out the plan. Not real churches, not real bankers. The evil scumbags who seek to overthrow. They are the enablers. Tosing roses to the illegals while claiming charity.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:42 | 5036669 MiltonFriedmans...
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Sounds like crawdaddy is talking about the Jesuits.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:05 | 5036709 Crawdaddy
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http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/07/28/the-one-about-the-bernardin-alinsky-...

Good thing about it, the good catholics know which side is up.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 04:12 | 5036922 barre-de-rire
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and both pedophilian crowded

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:55 | 5036234 VWAndy
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The never ending chain yank of the means of trade. Its an old game. Generational continuity is trully impressive.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:55 | 5036236 q99x2
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As long as people remain obsessed with false paradigms and faux enemies, the establishment's goal of complete centralized dominance will be predictably attainable

Horse shit. A sick child's fantasy. 


Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:28 | 5036333 KnuckleDragger-X
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Tsk, you can make it happen but you can't predict where it will go. I'm quite sure Robespierre was surprised about his final haircut.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:15 | 5036612 caustixoid
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Awesome point -- looking forward to watching high-level sociopaths turn on each other... hopefully popcorn will still exist for the show trials and public executions...

The Cheneysar Vanishes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Commissar_Vanishes

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:37 | 5036366 WTFUD
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Are you sayin' i aint gonna git me no hangin'? Awe Shucks, darnit.

Decentralization with local lynch mobs is on the horizon zebedee.

If you think the sheep, after all this bend over and touch your toes, are departing from this mortal soil with a dose of the shits and the birdie song your very much deluded.

No not this time my friend!

Good read though.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:05 | 5036385 ToNYC
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Boys destroy, Men create.

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:56 | 5036427 Atomizer
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Denuclearize disarmament to focus on climate change; unfortunately, the fucksticks cannot control the sun to skim your wallet. Carbon Tax is the peaceful way for new peasant theft.

Keep watching solar weather to displace the new fraud in mind.

Winks, Iron Mountain Report revealed details long ago.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:09 | 5036465 nah
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We will TAX you bitchez

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-Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:10 | 5036466 Nehweh Gahnin
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The thing about Brandon is he believes oil is abiotic and that the global ecology is perpetually sustaining.  I think it's a christian thing.  Go forth and subdue the Earth, and all that.  Too bad, because he is dead right about the foreign policy shenanigans of the U.S. and EU and others making no sense whatsoever.  But when you get down to it, this will be our biggest and best (and maybe last) crash as a species.  The BIS and IMF aren't going to be so powerful when there are only a couple million people left (if that).  But who knows, maybe they think like Brandon.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:19 | 5036482 F0ster
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ZH readers are INFO-WARRIORS. One day you will tell your grandchildren about this time.

I proudly wear my ZH t-shirt. Seriously.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:20 | 5036621 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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My King James Bible informs me that 'there is pride before the fall', Foster. Z/H readers are too smart to procreate let alone end up with dependents in old age. We can figure out what the costs of raising a kid would be compared to the margin of profit we would get for our investment and then decide to opt out, tune in, turn on, and drop out

in that order. That's what I did anyways but then again I am MASTER OF UNIVERSE for a reason.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:35 | 5037107 Aussie V
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My Bible say's the same thing. Funny A? (Fuck, I've written a book!) but............

Seriously though, this has to be looked at from a spiritual viewpoint to try and garner some understanding.

I mean, why do VERY RICH people try so hard to corner other people's/country's wealth?? They dedicate their entire miserable lives to that aim when, if they were sane, smart, secure and had any love, they would spend their lives enjoying their riches, and assisting other people as well, which for me, is still one of the greatest highs in life.

Helping people! Jesus was right. If you want to live, you have to die to yourself but, I digress.

 

Instead, these 'elite' dedicate their miserable lives to treasonous deals lacking in any morals, and sucking life out of people, groups, regions and entire country's yet, they consider these 'deals succesful' if they can make a huge obscene profit regardless of the damage caused.

BUT, they don't even need another profit yet, they do! Just to feel their lives are sufficient or active or worthy or something? Their entire mindfullness or existence is moribund. These people are the living dead! I've met some, I know some.

They lack a living human ingredient. Empathy, caring, love. They don't even see, hear, feel or smell pain. It doesn't effect them in any way. They are not moved by it or unmoved. They are uneffected. They are just numb when exposed to true human suffering. They are psycho killers without ever really killing. I mean real killing done personally.

They are a breed! Spiritually, you can plot what they are capable of and spiritually you can plot what they are thinking.Therefore you can plot their defeat if, you can define defeat. Defeat for you may not be defeat for them and vicea versa.

At the end of the day, regardless of who we are and, what circle we move in, we are all trapped in this Human condition. It matters not whether you believe or disbelieve in God, aGog or numerous gods.

Because we are all trapped in this human condition. We are not Gods. We are all slaves. Psychologically we are finite in our understanding of ourselves and each other and the differencees thereof. We are all committed to following certain traits and prone to act the same way under certain conditions. We are obvious.

So, we may not be able to change world events. We may not be bale to stop this charge into war that they seem to want so bad but, we CAN make a difference still.

The ONLY Thing that will stop this charge to war is spreading the word, making people understand the ramifications, organising and ultimately, hitting the streets. At the very least we need to tell everyone to prepare and at least ram home to these psychopaths that we know what they are doing and planning and what they have done in secret is being led out into the light.

They hate the light!!!!! They have to be exposed and then.......................watch em run.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:54 | 5036771 Atomizer
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Alex Jones is a piece of propaganda his mother should of swallowed . Don't corral ZH Members into a profile. Send the Zerohedge shirt back to Tyler. You don't deserve to wear it. I repeat, Alex Jones is a piece of shit. 

Sorry to hurt your feelings. He is a fake. Time exposes all. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:45 | 5037056 Iwanttoknow
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True.So is jeff rense.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:42 | 5036542 windcatcher
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With all the attacks by Washington against the American people what makes one believe that they would not use biological warfare against their own people?

 

Treasonous “open border” secret trade agreements of the North American Union is nothing new, the plan has been on the books, funded and underway for the last 13 years. The target of “open border” illegal immigration is to destroy our American Sovereignty and American Independence with government and NGO funded and orchestrated attacks on our borders with the use of illegal immigrants. The second objective is to create civil unrest and chaos with asymmetric warfare which the criminals in Washington specialize in. The war criminals in Washington are bringing the “hot” war home,

 

I know most Americans cannot believe that the attack on 9/11/01 was an “inside Job” that orchestrated us into national debt with “terrorist wars” for the last 13 years. They cannot believe that our Representative Republic, constitutional democracy (government of, for and by the People) has been purposely destroyed and replaced with a totalitarian fascist police state.

 

Americans cannot believe that our Free Enterprise System of capitalism (free from corporate monopoly) and “Fair Trade” has been destroyed by “Free Market” monopoly corporatism and “Free Trade” (multinational corporate monopolies are free to steal what ever they want, from whom ever they want, and do it legally).

 

Americans cannot believe that Washington would purposelessly bankrupt the USA. Debt is Wealth, they have been brainwashed to believe, --as we go underwater.

 

Mission Accomplished! Bush/Obama/banksters and crew!!!!

 

Our democracy is gone, our Free Enterprise System of capitalism is gone. We are bankrupt! The grand ole United States of America, like Greece, Portugal and others is going into receivership of the BIS and the IMF (same criminal banksters). At that point, we are no longer an independent and sovereign nation and you and your children, as citizens, are legal debt slaves to the global central banksters.

 

The illegal immigration attack coincides with the UN Agenda 21st. Century attack and the North American Union attack that are sponsored by the same criminal banksters.

 

 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:45 | 5037130 Aussie V
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I agree with you about everything except the 13 years bit. I am old enough to remember reading "The Club of Rome" report in 1986/87.

Back then, they talked, and I paraphrase,

'To bring in the New World Order America's economy had to be destroyed. To destroy the American economy the middle class had to be destroyed. It also mentioned that the strong religious ties and church membership in the US had to be watered down and nuetured.

This has been happening slowly for years mate. Here is Oz too but we're always 5 or so years behind, maybe more.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:17 | 5037289 windcatcher
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I know the “treason plan” has been going on for a lot longer than 13 years but most people are so brainwashed stupid they can only remember one decade back in time.

 

I was aware in the sixth grade in 1957 of the lies and have been following the globalist agenda ever since then.

 

I have concluded that people will believe what they want to believe and the truth and facts has very little to do with their beliefs.

 

The first casualty of war is the truth. That is why the globalist want war to cover up their lies.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:44 | 5037924 Raging Debate
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Windcatcher - So true, only a small percentage wish to become educated how the world works. My ex-business partner is a nice guy and good family man. However, after I explained all this since 2001 to 2011 he said "ai want you to stop telling me these things. Even though I know they are true I have to believe they are not."

My jaw hit the floor. It was probably the most revealing moment about human nature I experienced. He didn't downsize, now makes $60k a year instead of $100k plus, is $40k in debt. He is a stressed out basket case with high blood pressure and high anxiety. I still love the man but I respect his wish to say nothing more and nor would I waste my time for those that cover there eyes and ears after warning them.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 18:21 | 5038779 Aussie V
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I have a good friend like that. It must have something to do with inate fear or identity or something really deep.

Personally, I have my issues as we all do but fear is not one of them though. I don't think it is. Maybe diffeent types of fear?

Anyway, as spoken on another thread, I know this to be true. The closest thing to a man's heart is his beliefs or, his belief system. If you try to dismantle that you attack him at his core and his response will be aggressive. Even to his own demise

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:45 | 5036550 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The Neo-Liberalism of the Chicago School of Economics fostered

a belief that Central Planning could remediate any problem that they

faced in a modern economy. The collective hubris was promulgated

throughout the entire world and Americans hoisted themselves on their petards for nearly a century of hegemonic rule over others in this world. The ruling classes did not forcast or predict that the March 10th 2008 run of expectation would down their systems of hegemony and ultimately force their hands to usurp control from their grasp. This paradigmatic change in the global banking system was immediately evident to myself and others that are clued into empiricism proper but it was least evident to the Banksters in too-BIG-to-fail. After six years of reflection the Government of the United States of America has still npot admitted to the world that

it has failed to understand basic elementary mathematics in its basic form. Americans are so fixated on their superiority that they

assumed they were untouchable in terms of empiricism and expectations of market participants and the mathematics of

expectations surrounding markets themselves. The hubris was evidenced by the removall of Glass-Steagall. The rest is elementary mathematics and nothing more. Expectation alone melted down Wall Street and the United States of America. Please do not attempt to credit or rationalize away the real human ignorance of the American people or the false profits of neo-Liberal Economic Theory. Professor Emeritus Milton Freidman did not understand basic mathematics or expectation whatsoever.

No shit and the MASTER OF UNIVERSE never lies, ever!!!!!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:06 | 5036844 hedgiex
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Yes. These economic models are no panacea for sustainable economic growth anywhere. That they are foisted upon emerging economies as belief systems (like religions) benefit only the cronies in these places not the people.

Those emerging economies in the later stage of emergence learnt from the devastation of these idelogies through their experiements in poor South Americas and have largely ignored them.

Unfortunately for the 95% in US/EC, some of them have grown and particularly benefitted by globaliation to become predators themselves. Not that their predatory behavior shall have tricke down effect to their own retards (the 95%).

Either you put aside all ideologies (religion, culture, race and language, etc) and see the enemy of the common plight for what it is a killing machine...we are all toasts.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:06 | 5037997 Raging Debate
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A screen name of Master of the Universe is calling out hubris? Ahh the irony. Too funny!

So your opinion is that the senior politicans that repealed Glass-Steagall did not know what was going happen? Hahaha! The reason the law was put into place was so bankers did not gamble with depositers money and then demand a bailout. That was because confidence was so low in the 1930's of banking rip-offs and cronyism it was created to get money out of the mattresses and back into banks.

So Clinton didn't put 20,000 extra cops on the beat at the time and didn't expect a rising petty crime rate? This was the biggest heist in global history. A massive hive raid.

My best business mentor that worked analytics at IBM and Cognos told me in 2006 what had changed that "the big dogs were taking it out of the little guy." Too lazy to compete and innovate.

My Grandmother that lived through the Great Depression told me
"Never trust a banker, they love foreclosures." I thought about this for twenty years as it didnt make since until 2008 when the crisis hit and they got bailed out. I listened though and bought a house within my means. She had stock in the 1929 crash but then she told me she didn't buy stock again until 1962 and that was in Exxon.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:23 | 5036620 honestann
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Seriously?  So, exactly what did human beings imagine the term full spectrum dominance means (created by the predators who call themselves the "military industrial complex" AKA "government" and "large corporations"?

Do humans think they were kidding?  Do humans think they didn't mean FULL when they said full?  Do humans think they didn't mean dominance over all?  They did, they do, and they will, absent extraordinary action by their prey.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:08 | 5036713 Yes_Questions
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extraordinary action by their prey is precisely the contingency they are not prepared for.

 

Whatever dominance over the spectrum thy assume.

 

See Dr. Malcom in Jurassic Park.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:49 | 5037239 shovelhead
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I liked Laura Dern's ass in shorts.

First thing I would chew on if I was a T-Rex.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:39 | 5036664 Paracelsus
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I have some trouble understanding why a privately chartered jet carrying infected ebola victims is allowed into US airspace.Isn't there a quarantine regulation or something?

This is where I say someones' head should roll....

This reminds me of the Alien movie where the Android opens the airlock to admit the infected astronaut.

Ripley was right about breaching quarantine.Oh well,LB 426 here we come.Life imitates art....

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:46 | 5036757 Yes_Questions
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Except we can't just nuke it from space, to be sure

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:08 | 5036705 Radical Marijuana
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I agreed with most of the analysis presented in that article, except I think a lot of that is now merely "archeology," of a sort which explains how and why we ended up in the situations we are in now, and what the apparent agenda was of those primarily driving events in those directions. HOWEVER, I tend to think that things are actually much worse. The ruling classes have become criminally insane, while the vast majority of those they rule over have been reduced to Zombie Sheeple. The "Liberty Movement" is merely a "feel good" philosophy to try to be able to scrap together a pile of irrational hopes with respect to the future, upon which pile of scraps of irrational hopes one can base bullshit "solutions" for problems which are actually far, far worse than this kind of article addresses.

The basic problems are that thousands of years of history of being able to back up lies with violence have been pumped up with technologies that are trillions of times more powerful. NOBODY is coping with that! Both the ruling classes, and those they rule over, primarily operate through attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance about what they are really doing. Moreover, there is practically zero chance that enough people will move beyond their old-fashioned religions and ideologies towards more realistically coping with the facts that science and technology have gone through profound paradigm shifts, which have been advancing at an exponential rate, and therefore pumping up and up the established systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence to astronomically amplified SIZES.

The DEEPER problems are due to the paradoxical ways that the human experiment of building brains that can model their world, including model themselves within their model of the world have actually played through, which was to create social systems based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds. Both the rulers and those they rule over SHARE the same criminally insane, evil deliberate ignorance, because both participate in the social systems which are based on backing up lies with violence, in ways which they can not face enough to overcome their contradictions.

The paradoxical ways that social success was based on being able to create systems whose foundations were deceits backed by destruction, and enforced frauds, while those lies backed by violence have been pumped up by technologies which have become order of magnitude after order of magnitude more powerful and capable, means that that ruling classes have become criminally insane, while the people that they rule over have adapted to accept being ruled by runaway criminally insane systems.

Both the established systems, and their controlled opposition groups, are OUT OF CONTROL CRAZY, due to civilization being based on thousands of years of backing up lies with violence, becoming the foundation of everything, and thereby enabling everything to be done through attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance. In that context, I agreed with most of the social facts presented in the analysis of the article above, however, I do not agree that the ruling classes are going to succeed with their agenda, nor do I agree that their controlled opposition groups, such as a spurious "Liberty Movement," or whatever other kind of old-fashioned religious ideologies one may wish to consider resisting the plans of the rulings classes may well be.

Instead, both the criminally insane agenda of the ruling classes, and the similarly stupid ideas for resistance proposed by various controlled opposition groups, are merely facets of the overall ways that the real situation is OUT OF CONTROL. The basic problems are how and why the human systems ended up being controlled by lies backed by violence, and therefore, why those were driven to become runaway criminal insanities, opposed by matching sets of similar criminal insanities.

Of course, I would suggest that "we" should go through intellectual scientific revolutions, which would therefore apply to politics, and especially to the basic ways that "we" think about our combined money/murder systems. HOWEVER, it is plainly obvious that that is not going to happen in any sane way within the foreseeable future. Instead, the ruling classes will continue to attempt to advance their criminally insane agenda, while they are opposed by those who have no better ideas to offer, other than to attempt to resist the runaway madnesses due to the social facts that things are being controlled by systems of lies backed by violence.

The human species is headed towards a spectacularly paradoxical final failure from too much success at controlling civilization with lies backed by violence. Both the ruling classes and their controlled opposition groups deeply share in the same basic profound errors in their philosophy of science, and throughout all of the rest of their endeavours. Meanwhile, the vast majority of human beings know practically nothing about any of that, and do not want to know. Therefore, the most reasonable expectations are that the ruling classes will be able to advance their criminally insane agenda, in ways which necessarily will fail spectacularly, while their controlled opposition groups get more and more strident, and thereby contribute to resistance that mainly assists with the overall crazy collapse into chaos, which is the primary real result to be expected following from everything being controlled by lies backed by violence, engendering ubiquitous attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance throughout every level of human society towards what they are really doing to themselves, and their world.

As usual, when it comes to reading articles by various reactionary revolutionaries, or Black Sheeple, such as Brandon Smith, I find that I agreed with about 95% of the analysis of the social facts presented in that article, but then found the 5% towards the end regarding "solutions" to be silly old-fashioned bullshit.

"... people remain obsessed with false paradigms and faux enemies" on level after level far more profound than hinted at by Brandon Smith!

"The establishment's goal of complete centralized dominance will NOT be predictably attainable."  They have a criminally insane agenda, which will fail spectacularly, not because of anything that the human opposition to that may do, but rather, because the basic agenda is based on attitudes of egotistical madness, operating through evil deliberate ignorance.

"If we change our focus to the internationalists as the true danger instead of playing their game by their rules, then things will become far more interesting..."

FOR SURE, THOSE BEST ORGANIZED GANGS OF CRIMINALS THAT CURRENTLY DOMINATE OUR CIVILIZATION ARE THE CENTRAL PROBLEMS. However, the genuine solutions should be based on better understanding how and why that situation developed, in order to perhaps resolve those problems better. Nothing in any of the old-fashioned religions and ideologies, (including the so-called "Liberty Movement") are remotely close to comprehending what it would mean to more fully go beyond "false paradigms and faux enemies."

Actually, I no longer have the slightest shred of reasonable hope that human beings will be able to develop better systems of artificial selection, other than through drastic natural selection events forcing them to adapt ... after which it is not clear that anything will survive through those processes that we can currently imagine. The real world IS controlled by lies backed by violence, in ways which have become runaway criminal insanities, which both the rulers and those they rule over share, within the same social systems, which are paradoxically developing the power and capabilities of science and technology in ways which continue to be channeled through social pyramid systems based on the long history of backing up deceits with destruction, which enabled systems of enforced frauds to dominate our political economy.

The international banksters are certainly attempting to consolidate a globalized system of enforced frauds, in which their deceits are able to continue to be backed up by destruction. The vast majority of the population continue to be Zombie Sheeple who are political idiots that do not understand any of that, because they do not want to understand, while the controlled opposition groups are run by reactionary revolutionaries, who routinely provide relatively good analysis of the problems, only then to always collapse back to the same old-fashioned bullshit "solutions."

The paradox of a society which develops science and technology, being controlled by social "sciences" such as warfare and economics, whose successes were based upon deceits and frauds, is a profound problem, which is not remotely close to being recognized nor addressed in this article above, nor in any of the other articles featured on Zero Hedge. We continue to have a system of globalized electronic frauds, backed by the threat of the force of atomic bombs, wherein NOTHING regarding the profound paradigm shifts in the physics, that made those things possible, has anything comparable to be found in the political systems, which are all dominated by well-established systems of the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories, in which context, the controlled opposition groups are full of just as much of the same kind of bullshit as the established systems are.

Indeed, ironically, it is practically pointless to suggest that "we" should develop a more scientific society, since the existing society was built on the history of backing up lies with violence to the degree that it operates with universal attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance to such a degree that it is laughable to suggest that should not be the case. Therefore, the REALITY continues to be exponential progress in science and technology, pumped into social pyramid systems based on legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which therefore are becoming more criminally insane, while most of those who are opposed to that only present a good analysis of those problems, up to the point that they start talking about their "solutions," whereupon they collapse back to their favourite old-fashioned bullshit once again.

The outcomes of science and technology being discovered and developed inside of societies totally dominated by their biggest bullies' bullshit, wherein all the opposition groups were controlled to basically agree with that kind of bullshit, as their frame of reference, makes recommending superior paradigm shifts appear like a totally useless and ridiculous thing to do, since OBVIOUSLY, ALMOST EVERYONE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE ATTACHED TO THEIR FAVOURITE OLD-FASHIONED RELIGIONS OR IDEOLOGIES, TO THE DEGREE THAT RECOMMENDING A MORE SCIENTIFIC SOCIETY APPEARS TO ONLY BE SILLY, due to how totally impractical that is from a political point of view.

Therefore, the most probable futures will be the ones in which the criminal insanities of human beings will reach Peak Insanities, as their systems of lies backed by violence are pumped up and up by technologies which are trillions of times more powerful and capable, while that all gets actually done through maintaining social attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance regarding the real consequences of doing that. The ruling classes have a criminally insane agenda, while the vast majority of people are criminally negligent with respect to the degree that they want to continue to be ignorant about that, and while the controlled opposition groups continue to promote impossible ideals, which can only make the opposite happen in the real world, and therefore, that kind of controlled opposition tends to only contribute to the collapse into chaos of the runway systems of criminal insanities being promoted through the agenda of the ruling classes.

Things would ONLY "become far more interesting" IF enough people went through enough of a paradigm shift in the way that they understood politics. Guys like Brandon Smith, in my view, still stay on relatively superficial levels of going through the necessary paradigm shifts, in order to get past the faux enemies. The lies are different at every level. Brandon Smith does not get close to going through the kinds of paradigm shifts which have already happened in physics, which therefore should be also be gone through in our political science. ...

BUT THEN, PRACTICALLY NOBODY DOES, INSTEAD, WE ARE NOW APES WITH ATOMIC BOMBS! Science and technology primarily is used to provide special effects to tell the same old stupid social stories all over again. Our politics continues to be dominated by old-fashioned religions and ideologies, and indeed, the ruling classes appear to believe in some of the most old-fashioned ones, and therefore, are the most criminally insane. However, in my view, everyone who continues to believe in old-fashioned religions and ideologies (including believes in the old-fashioned profound errors made during the history of the philosophy of science), are in states of relative social insanities, due to the growing gap between science and technology being controlled by bullshit lies, backed by violence.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:48 | 5036822 hedgiex
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In basic agreement your premises. However, it is still in the distant future that the heads of families across the globe have sat down to mark out their spheres of control over resources, land etc. If that takes place, it shall be Gobalization 2, with territorial prisons for the 95%.

The proofs lie in the hustles of the Oligarchs for land, resources, etc taking place in Middle East, Eastern Europe, Asia and elsewhere. Until the spoils have been negotiated, there is still time for the 95% to preserve civilizations but like you not hopeful.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:49 | 5036823 Ariadne
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Wrong. We were all indoctrinated as children. False memories were implanted.

Deal with it. Good luck. hint: I am a fan of DNA. Pitch your tent where the politics is thickest and most inappropriate. They don't get it. At all.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 05:31 | 5036894 honestann
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The Liberty Movement is merely a feel good philosophy to try to be able to scrap together a pile of irrational hopes with respect to the future, upon which pile of scraps of irrational hopes one can base bullshit "solutions" for problems which are actually far, far worse than this kind of article addresses.

And the "liberty movement" will remain nothing but a "feel bad philosophy" until they arm themselves to the teeth, formulate serious plans based upon realistic understanding of the predators-that-be and their systems, and take actions that most efficiently eliminate the predators-that-be and their paid predator-thugs.  Unfortunately, there is little evidence this is happening.  At best the "liberty movement" is an educational movement to help people understand the matrix.  To understand the predators and their matrix of fraud is worthwhile, but is massively insufficient.

Also, the so-called "liberty movement" is primarily a "feel bad philosophy" (not "feel good"), at least in the sense they tend to think "woe is me" and "woe is us", while the mainstream sheeple-chimps wander around in their slaughterhouses without a clue, feeling more-or-less "good" or "satisfied" with their cluelessness and enslavement.

I suppose when an individual first figures out the nature of the matrix, and starts to understand insights voiced by "the liberty movement", that might make them "feel good"... for a short while.  But once the understand how dominant the predators and their matrix is, they can only "feel bad".

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Here is one observation about human physiology that helps explain how human sheeple-chimps can be so STUPID and "anti-evolutionary" as to accept, sanction, support, defend and actually prefer a "social structure" that is objectively harmful to them.

Humans do have a fairly effective hardwired physiology to discourage them from taking actions that harm them immediately or in the very short term.  For example, few people will stick their hands into an open flame, because they know they will immediately suffer.

Unfortunately, simple observation proves this physiology obviously does not operate on longer time frames (medium-term and long-term).  And this physiology also seems not to take [much] account of more general and diffused suffering.

And so, human will avoid suffering minor but immediate discomfort typically caused by disagreement, denouncement, resistance of status-quo nonsense and practices, but accept enormous aggregate [often diffused] medium and long-term suffering status-quo approaches necessarily involve.  This is also why we should not expect many to become liberty advocates.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:16 | 5038031 Raging Debate
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Honestann - I liked the comment about physiology of short-term vs. long-term thinking. As I said early in the thread it is hard for one to look in the mirror. Worthwile, but every time I literally do for self-examination it takes me a few days to work up the courage!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:26 | 5038063 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, honestann, it is abstractly interesting to try to tell what phase diffferent people are with respect to recognizing that the world operates through an apparent infinite, entangled sets of tunnels of deceits, where the lies are different at every level.

The vast majority of the population appear to have made little effort to learn more about the details, although most of them do intuitively know that things are going seriously wrong. The interesting thing about the small group of people who post on Zero Hedge is that most of them have already taken extensive vogages through those tunnels of deceits. Most of the discussions here are better people who have penetrated quite a few of the layers of lies that dominate our civilization, who still operate from different perspectives, and can reasonably debate which level of lies matters most.

As you wrote, honestann: I suppose when an individual first figures out the nature of the matrix, and starts to understand insights voiced by "the liberty movement", that might make them "feel good"... for a short while.  But once the understand how dominant the predators and their matrix is, they can only "feel bad".

I would have to say that, since about 2008, I have tended more to "feel bad" about "the nature of the matrix," because I have become more convinced that there is not going to emerge any coherent opposition to the criminal insanities of the runaway established systems, which does NOT mean that those established systems will succeed with their agenda, but rather, that there will be no effective resistance to stop them from implementing that agenda, despite how terrible the longer term consequences will probably become.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:24 | 5037302 hoist the bs flag
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great post. I also created a drinking game everytime I read "lies backed by violence"

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:09 | 5038011 Radical Marijuana
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Hah, you must have gotten quite drunk!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 15:07 | 5038197 hoist the bs flag
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hicuuup... hic, burp..indeed

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:22 | 5038051 Raging Debate
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Hoist-the-BS-Flag - What a coincidence, I just started playing that game too after reading Radicals post!

The solution to the paradoxical dilema RM poses is to channel the competetive human nature and death controls to wage war on death itself. I am drinking because I realize such a platform and innovations will have to wait until this thing collapses and the nasty violence comes to an end. By then 1/3 of us may not see that time. I do not fear death but nor do I welcome the ongoing and increasing suffering.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:56 | 5038161 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Criminally insane is not a scientific term. Criminally insane is a legal

term. Moreover, one needs to form 'criminal intent' in order to be

classified as 'criminal'. Without the basis for 'criminal intent' we simply have ignorant people doing very stupid things repeatedly over-and-over again. The definition of insanity and irrationality applied to

human behaviour brings us neatly towards Professor Keynes and his notion of 'animal spirits'. Irrational behaviour and rational behaviour

make up the continuum of behaviour to be analyzed. The ruling classes are not beyond irrational behaviour and neither are the systems of hegemony that they promote to their distinct advantage over those that are likely rational. When one imparts value laden judgements of human behaviour one is not being objective. Behaviours are observable and objective in so far as one removes the observer's value laden judgements from the mix. Furthermore,

if we adopt the perspective of Gregory Bateson and look at these behaviours through a lens of Systems Theory we can eliminate that which is superfluous to the formation of a workable hypothesis and

move in a direction that is less value laden and less subjective in scope. We are all living in cybernetic systems [matrix] and our being and life can be objectively understood if we adopt a language

of objectivity such as Systems Theory or Cybernetic Theory. Without an objective theory to guide our knowledge base we are simply engaged in subjectivist theorizing which may be interesting

and informative but cannot be nailed down objectively leading us to

repeat the same 'insane' mistakes over and over again ad infinitum.

Einstein recognized the need for objectivity and an objective language to understand objectively what is essentially paradoxical

to a subjectivist type thinker. There is only one way to unwind that which presents itself as paradox to us today. Gregory Bateson is one theorist that understood how to deal with these human paradoxical behaviours and how to objectively characterize human behaviour without falling into the logical traps of subjectivism.

Insane systems promulgated by insane status quo logic will not somehow bring us closer to that which is not insane. One needs to objectively remove one's self from the 'insanity' to objectively understand and articulate the synthesis being espoused by the ruling classes. My guess is that the ruling classes are no more hip to what's been going on than a 5th grader. The ruling classes are dependent upon systems of thought that have been rendered defunct over time and that's why we are presently in the subjective

chaos that we are all attempting to objectively understand. Without the basis of an objectivist science we will simply keep spinning our wheels into a rut. Cybernetic Theory lends traction and removes

us from these collectively felt ruts in the road of thought.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:05 | 5036708 russwinter
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Snakes are blackmailing Saudis on 9/11 involvement:

http://winteractionables.com/?p=13569

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 01:40 | 5036753 Atomizer
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Trilateral commission or G20 are pissing themselves. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:18 | 5036791 jack stephan
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Gangster 55: [shouting out loud] I'm Superman! King fucking Kong! I can pick you up and throw you a million miles. I'm number one. Number fucking one. I'm number one. Number fucking one. Number one! Number one! Number one! Number fucking one......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQfhLOYkEF8&sns=em

What sucks is I kinda liked this shitty pebble sometimes, my sperm is scared to come out... I shoot white flags and blanks haha

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:30 | 5036806 Ariadne
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No shit. This is the crux of the matter since seeds and pollen.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:25 | 5036867 Jano
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The man got it totally wrong: neither China, nor Russia, nor India have ever been for one world-government.

Never, what I can recall. Every entity will seek its own way and only stick to the minimum common values.

One world government can be installed only with a force and against the will of the other entities, overhelming majority of the states.

One world government is the idea of jews, of Rotschild and his ami muppet Rockefeler.The tools: They try to enforce it through us weapons and usd.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:27 | 5036872 Lordflin
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The world is not controllable. On the other hand, the hubris of men is such that they continue to try.

It always ends badly...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:08 | 5037157 Aussie V
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I think they can get us to beg for it!

We just have to be led to that place.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:30 | 5036874 LostandFound
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I still cannot get myself to believe that the BRICS is a false paradigm and this whole shit show is a a theater of the mind. 

If such Evil exists at the top, then such Evil will not allow another Evil to get in front, particularly when this is about the biggest opportunity to be a king of world dominance. This is too big for any globalist to strategically and successfully apply.

I do believe at this stage that the BRICS nations and others are indeed standing up to the US / NATO hegemony.

Why collapse the dollar? its a global and hedgemony currency, just like the NSA is global and the US military is global, all they need is control of the food and health care and energy and the world would be truly fucked.

Food such as Monsanto is getting push back, energy such as Russia and ME is pushing back.

Seems to me more like resistance than progress.

I will always keep an open mind to these views, but at the minute it feels to me that true resistance is out there on a country basis. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 04:06 | 5036914 smacker
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You may be right. Time will tell.

Where do many incidents fit into your thesis. It has been said many times that Obama's foreign policy is increasing the opposition to USD reserve status, notably sanctions against Russia but many others too. Some believe he actually intends to destroy the USD.

All that fits into a scenario whereby the USD withdraws from the world stage and is replaced by the IMF SDR, which is under full control of the global banking elites.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:36 | 5036882 Ghordius
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"Putin and the BRICS commonly rail against the “unipolar” financial system revolving around the U.S. dollar, but in the end they are only controlled opposition, and their solution is to place even more power into the hands of the IMF (a supposedly U.S. government controlled institution), creating a truly unipolar world order.  If the U.S. loses its IMF veto status this year due to lack of allocated funds, and the BRICS dump the dollar as world reserve, this may very well happen."

wait a moment. the thing should not be so difficult to explain. the IMF is a share-based affair, like a common stock company. the US is the main shareholder with veto power (more than 25%), next come the europeans, then the rest of the world including the BRICS

and the ratio of the shareholding is roughly based on commercial power as in the 1940's

BRICS want two things: more shares and an increase of share capital, i.e. a bigger IMF

europeans want one thing: an increase of share capital

the US Congress wants three things: not to talk about it, then it's political poison, not to allocate funds for a share increase, for the same reason, and for those demands to go away

and so BRICS are setting up an own "IMF-like" bank

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where is the "controlled opposition" in that?

what was that thing about them "creating a truly unipolar world"?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:56 | 5036907 smacker
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The "controlled opposition" is that we think the BRICS want to go it alone and create their own embryonic IMF replacement complete with a new financial system.

Whereas in fact they have no plan to do any of that, evidenced by the quoted comments from Putin and Rousseff. All they really want is more power and influence inside the existing structures, IMF etc.

The question is whether BRICS are knowingly being used to create this distraction. I don't know the answer to that.

Generally, Brandon is asserting that these financial upheavals we see going on (eg progressive sidelining of the USD) are not a really real break-up of the current financial world order but a series of false flags intended to create major crises which then allows the existing structures - controlled by the global banking elites - to step in and "save the day". I guess that means introducing the SDR with the IMF becoming the new world control-centre of global monetary policy. Not bad for an organisation that has never been elected by anyone and where its titular head pays no tax on her wages.

 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:36 | 5037116 Ghordius
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yet isn't the whole discussion about "unelected" itself part of the distraction? it's treasuries and national banks that represent the shareholders. In the British case, both under firm national control. The American case itself is a bit more complex because US megabankers are always found under the national finance guys

the BRICS want moar influence. europeans want to keep their levels, and the US Congress... wants the discussion to die

meanwhile the AngloPhone blogosphere is full of "One World" NWO plots to shift the existing USD hegemony to a future IMF-sponsored "One World Currency", with conspiracy theories like this one where the discussion is about "who is being set for a fall", and "who is being distracted"

from a point of view of those who don't live in the dollarzone...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:51 | 5037243 smacker
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"yet isn't the whole discussion about "unelected" itself part of the distraction?"

Maybe. But I didn't intend it to be a distraction. It just seemed a relevant point to make given the huge and growing powers of the IMF and the suntanned dame.

 

"meanwhile the AngloPhone blogosphere is full of "One World" NWO plots to shift the existing USD hegemony to a future IMF-sponsored "One World Currency", with conspiracy theories like this one where the discussion is about "who is being set for a fall", and "who is being distracted""

The IMF's SDR is not a conspiracy theory. It officially exists albeit not yet in physical form. It may never do so if one other part of the banksters plan to replace physical fiat currency with electronic digits comes to fruition.

We know the FedRes is involved in this but I think most people are somewhat puzzled as to how involved the USG is in this plan or whether it's just the international banksters with dual passports. I say this because Obama himself persues a foreign policy which seriously damages the USD. The Russian sanctions are one example which have caused Russia to do currency swap deals with China and this process is gathering momentum elsewhere.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:48 | 5038119 Raging Debate
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Ghordius - Don't have all the answers and am no insider, but I will say that my repeated speculation here since 2011 about Yuan becoming reserve currency was based on very similar thinking of Brandon that this is Kubaki theatre. To me the decision that the Yuan was next reserve happened in the mid-1990's.

The rest West now bad especially America and China/East now good memo circulating is mainly for American populist consumption and drive more hot money East (which is bad imbalanced trade for both populations but not cronies) as it was drained of resources and shuttled East with politically connected investors following suite and accelerating the process.

I think the EU was also set up as contender but political control is less established than China, the EU being a monetary union in real terms resulting in weaker political control.

That said, there could and probably will be bait and switch but that kind of speculation on who betrays who is beyond my understanding to even place a guess. That all this goes horribly wrong is why I hedge physical preps as well as real assets such as PM's and real-estate outside large population centers.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:48 | 5036896 Angry Plant
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Internationalists no longer exist did you mean internetnationalists by chance? We have lots of those here on Zerohedge.

Globalists don't really like war at all because it gets in the way of business.

The actually people pushing the world towards conflict are good old fashioned imperialists, US, Russia, France, UK, Germany, China.

All of them are guilty globalizing regional conflicts. Changing them from being just regional problems into great power sphere of influence conflicts. Now were at the point where were no longer even talking about spheres of influence but a case where the conflicts between various imperial powers have stopped being about the regional issues and instead are simply a venue for the imperial powers to contest with each other indirectly. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 03:54 | 5036904 Ghordius
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"The U.S. relationship to the EU is also currently being presented as dubious, and this is not by accident. Failing relations between America and Germany are yet more theater for the masses to chew on. Western allies have been spying on each other for decades, but somehow the exposure of CIA activities in Germany is shocking news?"

Not so fast. "Western Allies" are not all equal. We have here, particularly in the spying business, a Hierarchy of Alliance. At the top, the US. In second place, the rest of the Five Eyes. Note that the Five Eyes don't spy on each other. Official Agreement Not To. Eventually, the third and fourth rank allies were bound to complain a bit, particularly when the Five Eyes use their spying also to gather commercial, industrial and trade secrets

Think for yourself: the US and the EU set up trade talks. the EU delegates find out that everything they discuss secretly among each other is being piped to their counterparts. Would you find it funny? Or fair?

The solution to this would be very, very simple: extend the courtesy among the Five Eyes to all allies. If not, eventual complaints from the third and fourth ranks are baked in, only a question of time

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 04:11 | 5036920 smacker
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"Note that the Five Eyes don't spy on each other. Official Agreement Not To."

Simly not true Ghordius. Agreements or not, it goes on. The NSA & GCHQ are run by paranoids.

 

"The solution to this would be very, very simple: extend the courtesy among the Five Eyes to all allies."

You have not missed I'm sure that a crucial qualification of joining "Five Eyes" is that English language is the mother tongue. Five Eyes is about maintaining the Anglo-American empire.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 04:35 | 5036934 Ghordius
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smacker, is that crucial qualification somewhere set in stone, or written in a constitution, or has it been voted on by the people?

for my point "not to be true", you'd have to find evidence of the NSA spying on Brits and GCHQ spying on Americans. do you have any?

from a perspective of us allies, we could not care less how you Brits and Americans run your intelligence agencies

if your Parliament has lost control of GCHQ, or the US Senate Intelligence Committee has lost control of the NSA... well, then damn get it back

the truly old historic precedent would be to call us, your third and fourth rank allies, for help. our intelligence agencies would love it

the whole thing still begs for an explanation why our trade and industrial secrets have a "permission to be stolen"

anyway, is it really language? or just this culture of hierarchical power-sharing, which makes our continental peer-system so distasteful?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 05:03 | 5036948 smacker
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"...is that crucial qualification somewhere set in stone, or written in a constitution, or has it been voted on by the people?"

Certainly not that I'm aware of. But it stems from the old British Empire belief that them there forriners who speak funny languages are not equal to us because they don't speak English. You don't need me to tell you that the world is run on the English language: international business, intl politics, air traffic control are just several examples. Five Eyes and other mutual orgs exist to keep ahead of possible competitors.

Evidence of NSA/GCHQ spying? No. But my point stands in that the USG/UKG trust NO ONE, not even their friends. Absence of evidence does not mean absence of spying.

"if your Parliament has lost control of GCHQ, or the US Senate Intelligence Committee has lost control of the NSA... well, then damn get it back"

I think it's highly doubtful that Parliament ever had control of GCHQ. Its secret activities have grown enormously over the last 20 years.  Recent revelations of GCHQ "unlawful" spying are met in Parliament by the Home Secretary asserting that "we do not discuss matters of National Security". End of debate. Same crap comes from the Foreign Secretary. Of course they should be sacked for blatantly violating the fundamentals of democratic accountability.

"...anyway, is it really language? or just this culture of hierarchical power-sharing, which makes our continental peer-system so distasteful?"

Understand that the British Empire existed and ruled much of the world using English. Note that millions of Indians/Pakis speak English. Britain handed over the reins of Empire to the US and retained seats on the highest top tables. The security agencies are a crucial part of all that, together with co-ordinated foreign policy. All this goes on in English. Canada, Oz and NZ are English speaking countries.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:34 | 5037045 piratepiet
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Interesting discussion.

How do you square your language criterion with NSA sharing everything with Israel ? ( I remember reading this on zerohedge )

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:27 | 5037105 Ghordius
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the Sixth Eye?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:52 | 5038154 Raging Debate
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The all seeing eye on top of the pyramid of dollar bills...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:12 | 5037166 smacker
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Israel is not a member of Five Eyes (and there is no Six Eyes). At most you could say "Five Eyes +1" but Israel really has a different relationship with the USG than that. More like one of political "ownership".

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 04:17 | 5036927 Ghordius
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"I believe that the narrative is being prepared for a faked financial breakup between the U.S. and many of its former allies, isolating the U.S., and destroying the dollar, but to what end? To answer that question, we must ask WHO ultimately benefits from these actions?"

Good Morning my dear freshly awakened American Cousin

are you smelling some coffee? well, it's brewing since long, long time

nobody wants to destroy the dollar. from an european perspective, you are destroying it yourself. since August 1971. your currency, our problem

nobody wants to isolate the US. or break up from the US. for sure not from an european perspective, where I note you mentioned us while using a very sneaky "former allies". hello? "former"? seriously? did we give you up? or are you already giving us up? Freudian slip?

no, my dear Cousin, I'm convinced that you are quite disingenuos, here. fact is that you benefit from the Dollar Hegemony most

there is no "financial breakup". there is, though, a very slow preparation for a possible breakup case. a follow-up on 1971. systems and plans for a "shit hits the fan" scenario. the EUR belongs to this category

we were shocked, you see? probably you don't, then after all you were in a two-generation long gold prohibition era, at that time

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 05:27 | 5036958 LostandFound
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65UWCdpcX-8

Quick 10 minute video of the Turthseeker on behalf of RT News, even if the source isnt realiable, it shows the propaganda for the people of Russia to fear a first attack from NATO.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 06:01 | 5036985 trader1
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what world does mr. smith live in?

As long as people remain obsessed with false paradigms and faux enemies, the establishment's goal of complete centralized dominance will be predictably attainable. If we change our focus to the internationalists as the true danger instead of playing their game by their rules, then things will become far more interesting...

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:03 | 5037030 smacker
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What's your problem with that?

Sun, 08/03/2014 - 09:20 | 5039998 trader1
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the only problem is that his argument stems from a perspective that we're not already there yet...

we are there.

 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 06:39 | 5037008 falak pema
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On the Issue of Gaza : 

The Latin countries are now taking the lead declaring Israel as a terrorist state.

That is A WAKE UP CALL SENT TO PAX AMERICANA AND EUROPE.

The Third World, in the new mindset of Bandung Conference, is now telling the West : 

We don't want to go back to Crusader, "devils without souls" logic reminiscent of Conquistador genocide of Amerindiens by the Universal Empire of Spaniards; now replaced by West's obssession for ME oil as much as then it was obsessed with Aztec and Inca Gold and Silver! 

Predatory Imperial History does rhyme! 

Its time that those who pretend to defend basic human rights realize that and shout their disgust.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:02 | 5037027 smacker
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"The Latin countries are now taking the lead declaring Israel as a terrorist state."

I guess this is not surprising, but I'd love to see a link or two to read what they've said..

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:52 | 5037061 Iwanttoknow
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check the rumor mills.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:30 | 5037175 falak pema
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Just a reminder of the level of tangible and financial support that the Obama regime has provided Netanyahu in 2012 decision.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/advancing-israels-security

I am trying to find the links to Roussef's statement as those of Evo Morales :

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/07/29/gaza-strip-conflict...

http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/gaza-l-amerique-latine-en-pointe-dans-la-con...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 15:05 | 5037355 smacker
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Thanks falak. Interesting reading.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:38 | 5037122 T-NUTZ
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Brandon you sound like you aren't feeling well.  have you been taking your meds?  come lets just check you in for some tests to make sure everything is ok, shall we?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 15:52 | 5038309 Raging Debate
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T-Nutz - Tsk tsk. Denying one group wants to rule the world and temporarily does disregards 12,000 years of documented history against your ad hominem attack. But let me ask you this. Where is the Egyptian, Babylonian, Persian, Roman, Greek, Islamic, Spanish, Dutch, English empires now?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 22:11 | 5039293 bunnyswanson
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I call this a "mind fuck" because you have said nothing, want no response but insulted someone to the point of dismissing them as irrelevant when, in fact, the author is correct. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:39 | 5037123 OC Sure
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I agree with the premises and conclusions in this article. They are true. I have an essay that resounds in harmony with it for anyone interested:

"...Authoritarians are highly intelligent people and admittedly point to their own "monetary policies" as causal. Once authoritarians start counterfeiting as the means to control interest rates then the dye is cast. No one knows at first which current the dye will permeate the most. Once the dye is cast no one knows immediately what will be the next failure of Savings and Loans thrift institutions, the next failure of high flying internet stocks, or the next failure of mortgages. We do know that the dye can not be uncast from the waters to which it is submersed and that the next effect of microrecklessness will be sensationalized as the next unstoppable plague of certain black death if worldwide authoritarians do not unite and do something. If instead this microrecklessness was properly addressed and corrected then what would tyrannical bankers do? Enter the economy of productive work? Not a chance when their worldwide totalitarian aspirations are concretizing for them so well. For just as the USA's third authoritarian bank came into being as the macroprudential solution to the panic of 1907's "cause" of too many banks and too many competing currencies, so too are world stage authoritarians beginning their harangue for one World "Bank" to authorize all of the others. It is no large leap to see that in the name of being macroprudential they will call for separated national banks to unite into one globalized authority with the prospect of issuing one global currency. The pitch, the lie, will be that this is necessary to ease "financial frictions," to resolve problems of "interconnectedness," to bring sunlight into the shadows, to match "security" maturity, to "properly buffer" capital, etc. By calling for macroprudential solutions to their own microrecklessness globalized tyranny is right now just like Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon.

This globalized tyranny will most likely come about as the result of two related causes. The more elevated cause and most readily available is from the mass hypnosis that jargon like the "beneficent welfare of macroprudential policies facilitated by dynamic stochastic general equilibrium models" will undoubtedly induce. The fundamental cause is that opponents of tyranny accept tyranny's obfuscation of the definition of money. They are oblivious to the first principle of money as identified by Aristotle 2,300 years ago and elaborated upon ad nauseam in these posts. Tyranny's liars and thieves call their efforts "leaning against the wind" and appropriately so since their deceptions and wishful sorcery will no doubt have all of the obsequious totem pole gazers believing that if we could all just lean hard enough then we could even make the earth rotate from east to west."

 http://ocsure.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-microrecklessness-of-tyrannically.html   


 

 

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