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Turkey Shuns US (Again); Loads 5th Tanker Of $100 Million Iraqi-Kurdish Oil

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Having publicly shunned President Obama, it appears Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan has no problem upsetting the status quo. As Reuters reports, the fifth cargo of crude oil from Iraqi Kurdistan was loading at Turkey's Mediterranean port of Ceyhan on Thursday and was scheduled to set sail on Friday, Turkish energy officials said. Baghdad is unhappy - missing out on the oil revenues. We are sure US is unhappy - oil being sold out of its control. And OPEC may be getting upset as it appears an 'anonymous' buyer is more than willing to buy the oil from the 'not sovereign status' seller militia at a healthy discount. De-petrodollarization?

 

As Reuters reports,

The cargo was the first loading of Iraqi Kurdish oil from Ceyhan in over a month, as the central government in Baghdad, locked in a bitter dispute with the Kurds over oil exports, moved to block the unloading of Kurdish oil-laden vessels in foreign ports.

 

The Suezmax tanker Kamari arrived at the port late on Wednesday, a shipping source said. It will be carrying one million barrels of crude oil.

 

"Initially there was no programme for loading today. Then we received a tanker and started to load swiftly," one Turkish official said, adding that he had no knowledge of the buyer.

 

So far, most of the buyers of Kurdish oil remain annonymous while as the intensifying legal and political struggle with Baghdad could deter potential buyers, analysts say.

 

Arguing all oil sales outside its control are illegal, Baghdad this week tried to get a Texas court to seize 1 million barrels of oil aboard the United Kalavrvta tanker, which has been anchored off the port of Galveston since the weekend.

 

But after a U.S. judge on Tuesday said she lacked jurisdiction given the ship's distance from the shore, the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) hit back at Baghdad, filing a letter with the Texas court arguing its sales are allowed under the Iraqi constitution.

 

Arbil has begun selling its oil via a new pipeline through Turkey in May, but so far has only successfully sold and delivered one tanker filled with oil from the line.

 

Unable to export its oil on a routine basis, Iraqi Kurdistan was forced to halt pumping in its oil pipeline via Turkey, as the storage tanks at Ceyhan have been backed up and at capacity.

 

Baghdad has cut the KRG's budget since the start of the year over the oil sales dispute, heaping pressure on the semi-autonomous enclave of 5 million that has enjoyed relative stability since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

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Just add it to the list of geopolitical hot spots... we smell sanctions (on a NATO ally?)

 

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Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:08 | 5035590 nidaar
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Selling to Israel...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:10 | 5035605 Schmuck Raker
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China would be more entertaining.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:14 | 5035626 Publicus
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Russia buying it to resale.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:23 | 5035667 HenryHall
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Russia buying it to refine more like. Export refined product to Venezuela.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:26 | 5035680 knukles
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Karma

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:33 | 5035716 nmewn
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Is she a pole dancer? ;-)

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:57 | 5035825 kaiserhoff
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I think I dated her sister for a while.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:20 | 5036115 espirit
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Mysterious fireball in 3..2..1...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:30 | 5036150 1000 splendid suns
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Didn't Kissinger get the Sauds to jack up the oil price 4 fold? With a more 'free market' in oil, will the price drop big time?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:24 | 5035671 Deathrips
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Saudi needs it to keep up the front that they still have oil. ???

 

RIPS

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:47 | 5036204 Quus Ant
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dingaling-ding, rips.  Probably the real reason the US hamstrung Saddam through the 90's- That oil was in receivership.  Embargoed by the US military until the Saudis could get their hands on it.  The Saudis sold oil they didn't have to a nation that couldn't pay for it.

it's perversely fun to watch.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:13 | 5037437 spinone
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Saudis lateral drilled into Iraqi oilfields

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:28 | 5035689 suteibu
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Russia has oil.  This is for the Chinese.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:36 | 5035728 Paveway IV
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If rebels in, say, Donetsk or Luhansk oblast were selling freshly-fracked natural gas without Kiev's 'permission', Obama would be Tomahawking the living crap out of their children and sanctioning anyone who dared purchase that 'stolen' gas - because it belongs to the Ukrainian people.

Kurdish oil stolen from the Iraqi people? Fuck that - it's 'the Kurds' oil.

Israel is getting impatient about construction on the big Kirkuk-Haifa pipeline (which Iraq strongly opposes). They spent a lot of money buying off the KDP and corrupting Kurdish politicians to establish Israeli Kurdistan. Fuck the majority of Kurdish people that don't want anything to do with Israel - that God damn half-price oil WILL flow to Haifa or pedophile U.S. senators WILL be exposed. If the U.S. can't put an Israeli-firster prime minister in charge in Iraq, then screw them. Kirkuk oilfields to Turkey to the Port of Ceylon? Israel doesn't give a fuck about the route as long as they get their half-price oil on time.

Remember, Israelis are the victims here: genocide takes a lot of damn fuel. The faster they can wipe out the Palistinians, the faster they can start drilling the off-shore Gaza oilfields to have extra oil to start killing off all the other Semitic people that hate them. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:49 | 5035765 Kirk2NCC1701
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Argentina would be equally entertainng, but unlikely as they get their gasohol from Brasil, and oil from Venezuela.

Probably some buyer named Yuan Sum or Shekel Tov.  Oil and money makes for strange bed fellows, as the US-Saudi relationship has shown.

Bonus round:  For extra up-arrows, who got the play on words with the buyer names?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:19 | 5035628 813kml
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Definitely Israel, they love a good distress sale.  

And I'm sure they could use it, running over women and children is horrible for a tank's gas mileage.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:39 | 5035732 Kirk2NCC1701
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IDF needs cheap Gazoline.  Part of GazAid.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:05 | 5036064 DaveyJones
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reminds me of another country, running over civillians for cheap gas....?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:16 | 5035632 toady
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Gaza!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 09:56 | 5037251 tony wilson
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the yid stealing iraqs oil from the thieving kurd

nuttin new under der sun.

 

Israel receives first ever oil shipment from Iraqi Kurdistan

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Israel-set-to-receive-oil-fr...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:12 | 5035612 toady
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Good stuff. I haven't  heard anything about the Iraqi Kurds in a while. Good to hear they're making some money. 

Last I heard was Turkey hated the Kurds. Now they're working together? 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:17 | 5035638 813kml
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I think they $hook hand$ and decided to let bygone$ be bygone$.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:29 | 5035702 knukles
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.  Isis is all right if they stay the fuck outa Turkey kinda feelings, methinks.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/iraqi-kurds-plead-with-obama-adm...

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:34 | 5035719 logicalman
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+ many

Nicely put.

If you read hi$tory, it'$ amazing how everything come$ down to money. (to borrow your typing skills)

There were a lot of archers at Agincourt because the king was broke and archers were cheaper than knights!

William of Orange and the Bank of England makes for interesting reading

The Domesday book was basically a catalogue of what the Normans had stolen

Etc. etc. etc.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:49 | 5035781 Parrotile
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If you read your History, you will know that the reason for the English Longbowmen being so numerous, was their known, and previously demonstrated, killing ability (accuracy and sustained firepower), along with flexibility in deployment.

Even so, the Battle of Agincourt was a much closer-won victory than many realise, with the English king very nearly being killed (which of course would have been a win for the French side).

Seeing as it wasn't that long ago (in terms of global history) since the Norman Invasion, one wonders how many of the "English" military had French ancestry??

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:09 | 5035870 Schaublin
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Read your history and it will be revealed that Normans were Northmen ie Norsemen who colonised that part of Northern France. By the time of William, Franks Gauls and Northmen were more or less homogenised into "the Normans"

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:28 | 5035930 kchrisc
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Always about money and power. ALWAYS.

If they tell you the sky is blue it is because they have found a way to monetize the fact or want you looking up while they further steal you blind.

Seeing all they say and do as being driven by money and power, I see and understand the world more completely--"It's like wearing the 'Roddy Piper glasses'."

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:14 | 5035624 stant
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I hope it was served in a single hulled tanker just to piss them off more

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:15 | 5035629 LetThemEatRand
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"Baghdad this week tried to get a Texas court to seize 1 million barrels of oil aboard the United Kalavrvta tanker, which has been anchored off the port of Galveston since the weekend."

Ah, yes.  Baghdad sued in TX court over oil sales not denominated in US dollars.  The war in Iraq was not about oil.  The war in Iraq was not about oil.  The war in Iraq was not about oil.  There, I believe it now.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:17 | 5035639 williambanzai7
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Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:30 | 5035699 LetThemEatRand
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So far tonight, I clicked on Tall Tom's graphic example of autofellatio, and now this is in my NSA/browser history.   I'm either going to be hauled off to Camp 7, or invited to the next Bilderberg meeting.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:34 | 5035725 logicalman
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Given the choice, I'd go with the camp.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:39 | 5035743 LetThemEatRand
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I'm already practicing my chain gang songs.  Tell me what you think.  Would YMCA send the wrong message?  

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:50 | 5035786 Parrotile
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OK as long as you're certain you won't be shipped to Saudi Arabia as part of a "We'll work for Oil" deployment!

I gather they have issues with the Village People mindset . . . . .

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:12 | 5035874 LetThemEatRand
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Don't those guys all wear hats?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:25 | 5036136 espirit
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Gawd William, now I've got to get new glasses - again!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:54 | 5035799 toady
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Y_GLT4_9I

Swing low, sweet chariot.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:01 | 5035827 LetThemEatRand
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Love Cash.  And for good measure, some Ford:

"You load sixteen tons, what do you get

Another day older and deeper in debt

Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go

I owe my soul to the company store."

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:05 | 5035853 darteaus
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Depends on the role you want to have with the gang going forward.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:07 | 5035856 darteaus
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Depends on the role you want to have with the gang going forward.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:22 | 5035908 logicalman
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Only if you sing it while bending over to pick up the soap while showering!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:05 | 5035849 darteaus
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You might be solicited to give a "presentation" at the next Democratic National Convention in 2016.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:13 | 5035880 LetThemEatRand
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It's interesting you say that.  I googled "tanning leather" the other day, and within 10 minutes I started getting Pelosi campaign ads.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:37 | 5035735 nmewn
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I can't make out the jewel in his belly button, is it a ruby? ;-)

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:03 | 5035846 darteaus
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I can't either, but I am not going to admit that I am looking that closely.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:09 | 5036083 Demdere
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You bastards must work for the Mossad, CIA, etc.

You just wasted the time of every reader of these comments by making us go back up and look.

Bastards.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:20 | 5035648 smacker
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"Just add it to the list of geopolitical hot spots... we smell sanctions (on a NATO ally?)"

 

Possibly. And if this bitch slapping continues how long before Turkey signs up with BRICS?

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:26 | 5035681 813kml
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I would be very surprised if it wasn't already in the works.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:55 | 5035813 Winston Churchill
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A silent partner that holds the gold.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 02:48 | 5036824 smacker
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Quite likely. What to do with the dozen or so NATO bases will be a small problem, 'cos BRICS certainly won't allow them to remain. Perhaps there'll be a changeover day when NATO moves out and Russia/China move in and change the flags.

And on the lunch menu it'll be "Curried Borsch Chop-Suey with Feijão".

 

Fast forward: will Greece bury its differences with Turkey and also seize the opportunity to join BRICS and get away from the bloodsucking IMF/EU/Troika banksters, who have plundered its country and impoverished the people?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 05:38 | 5036966 BigJim
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 Fast forward: will Greece bury its differences with Turkey and also seize the opportunity to join BRICS and get away from the bloodsucking IMF/EU/Troika banksters, who have plundered its country and impoverished the people?

I was going to say 'now that I'd like to see', or some such ironic remark, but then I recalled a few Greeks telling me the Greek people in general didn't mind Turkish people, but their governments hated each other. And we all know 'our' governments can turn on a dime when it suits them.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 06:01 | 5036987 smacker
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I believe that.

Virtually evry war or geopolitical discord that arises is never caused by "the people" of the countries, but the political elites. And to get their populations behind them, they spew lies and hateful propaganda.

As I've said many times: "if my government want to go to war with some other country, they're welcome to. But don't ask me."

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:55 | 5036238 fel.temp.reparatio
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Turkey (finally) gives up joining the EU and joins the EEU instead... now that's definitely on the cards

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:20 | 5035649 esum
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XOM trumps iraq govt. Iraq is another fuk up situation created by the brit/frog drawing lines in the sand... without regard to ethnic bouandries... Brennan and Obama gave away ALL ussa interests in iraq  and left with no status of forces agreement.. Maliki then proceeded to do what Saddam had done before him... seizeall  power.. the result ussa backed ISIS... 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:21 | 5035654 NoDecaf
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Just waiting for France and Germany to bail out, then it'll only be the UK and Japan casting their lot with the USA...and even that may unravel in the final days of the empire.

 

 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:21 | 5035657 WTFUD
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That tanker is payment to the filthy turks for feeder routes into Syria. 

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:23 | 5035665 esum
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in the middle east bakshish is the word.... without it, nothing happens.....

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:24 | 5035668 alexcojones
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I Hope Kurdistan is in the Next

World Cup held in Russia.

Seriously, though, I hope there is a World then.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:24 | 5035669 suteibu
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Another front in America's war against the world.  The death of an imperial nation is tough to watch.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:37 | 5035731 logicalman
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Depends where you are sitting!

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:37 | 5035729 franzpick
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an 'anonymous' buyer is more than willing to buy the oil.

Good. A worldwide black market, that may signify the end of American 'gunboat' resource diplomacy.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:02 | 5035839 darteaus
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What's the follow on the "American 'gunboat' diplomacy"?

Regional war - sometimes nuclear:

1) Japan vs. China.

2) Russia vs. Ukraine, Moldovia, etc.

3) Germany vs. Anyone.

4) Israel vs. Muslims

5) Sunni vs. Shiite

6) India vs. China  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War

No thanks.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:29 | 5037043 conscious being
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Typical bs via strawman syndrome.

Two, Four and Five are commensurate with dollar hedgemony and One, Three and Six won't happen.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:43 | 5035759 Sofa King
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According to marinetraffic.com it's on its way to OPL Port Said.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:50 | 5035783 22winmag
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Turkey has been buying our guns (and committing acts of agression and genocide with them) since the Army retired it's lever action Winchesters.

 

This shitty ass country wouldn't exist if it wasn't for U.S. arms. Just sayin'.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:57 | 5035820 darteaus
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They haven't retired their .30-30s.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:43 | 5036197 fel.temp.reparatio
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...but they make great kebabs!

In all honesty, the problem isn't 'Turkey'... it's Erdogan, he's the 'shitty ass'.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:42 | 5037048 conscious being
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Erdogan, turns out is an evil bastard for providing the conduit and safe haven staging space for the ISIS cannibals going into Syria and Iraq.

Now, he's a pissed off evil bastard after the Kagan-Noodleman types tried to "color revolution" him. This, despite all the evil he was willing to do for Zato.

What a bunch of back-stabbers Zato turns out to be. Who'd a thunk??

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 19:56 | 5035814 darteaus
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Everybody is kicking sand in Barry's face now.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:18 | 5035896 kchrisc
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"This just in: Turkey has WMD and 'yellow-cake'."

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:20 | 5035901 buzzsaw99
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hey, they can't steal their oil, only we can steal their oil. those dirty turks and kurds better learn to respect the criminal usa gubbermint. [/sarcasm]

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:23 | 5035913 TeraByte
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A sign of Turkey and Kurds having made a deal over ending  Kurdish insurgency in Turkey? Borders of Kurdistan nation start emerging.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:26 | 5035925 buzzsaw99
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the whole world is becoming united in peace and their common disdain for the usa maggots.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 18:53 | 5037431 Pee Wee
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.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:26 | 5035923 magpie
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Sounds like ISIS will have to liberate Ceyhan, or at least Kirkuk.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 08:02 | 5037071 conscious being
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Look up the Permagesh. ISIS can't get into Kirkuk. The Permagesh beat them to it.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:50 | 5037516 falak pema
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Are the Permagesh distant and contrarian cousins of Permafrost?

I've heard of Peshmerga Kurds... but maybe those other guys are an unexpected result of local global warming.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 20:42 | 5035989 robertocarlos
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Why is oil so low in price? It's killing my Canadian clownbux.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:46 | 5036210 novictim
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Turkey, ISIS/ISIL/Islamic-State Inc as well as the Syrian Rebels are all the same folks.

Erdogan the Ape Man should be hunted down by a coalition of Russian, American and Iranian forces.  I hope this is in the works.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 21:47 | 5036212 messystateofaffairs
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I bet that anonymous buyer is Israel. Kabuki theater.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 22:13 | 5036286 needfiatforBBB
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I think Israel is buying some, but also India.  They have few fossil fuels and need to grab any bargain they can.  They did it before.  They have gold.  Turkey likes gold.  Turkey is mad at the US(dollar).

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 23:49 | 5036553 MollyHacker
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Unfortunately rouge tankers make for soft targets /sarc:(

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 00:47 | 5036678 Youri Carma
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The US doesn't mind. The break up of Iraq has been planned long before (It’s the well known Brzezinski doctrine) but now it’s taking shape http://www.takeoverworld.info/Grand_Chessboard.pdf

Israeli leader calls for independent Kurdistan http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israeli-leader-calls-for...

Kurd Oil Sales Seen by Deutsche Bank Gaining Market Acceptance http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2014-06-30/kurd-oil-sales-seen-by-de...

Kurdistan now hosts more than 20 foreign companies exploring for oil and gas, according to the regional government’s website http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2014-07-17/kurd-oil-grab-fueling-ind...

Kurd Oil Supply Seen Growing as Region Grabs Territory http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2014-06-17/kurd-oil-grab-seen-boosti...

“The current situation could lead to a better environment for exports if the Kurdish region gets more autonomy and can ship its oil, and the south of Iraq continues to grow,” David Wech, managing director at JBC Energy GmbH in Vienna, said yesterday by phone.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 05:27 | 5036959 supermaxedout
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This is all smoke and mirrors. But a few facts do hold.

1) The oil in Kurdistan is  under tight US control. There is US military there and the big US oil companies do pump the oil out of the ground.

2) The oil is pumped through Turkey.  Turkey is Nato member and Erdogan is not the master in Turkey. He is opposing the US thats why the US is fighting him. Erdogan wants that Turkey is getting independent from the US but he knows that if he is pushing to strong the US is going to destabilize his country according their proven schemes. Its a routine for the US to kick-start a violent regime change which might be succesful but always very bloody - but also good business for the US.

3) The Kurds do not want to break with Bagdad because they know a federal state with Bagdad as the capital is in their interest because only this opens the possibility that the Kurds do become one day really theit own masters. This is demonstrated by the fact that just a few days ago a Kurd became the prsesident of Iraq by vote of the parliament. Maliki is prime minister. As long as US troops are stationed in Kurdistan they have no choice but to obey orders from Washington, while as a federal state within Iraq they have more freedom.

4) The US and Israel wants to destroy Iraq so that they can deal better with the remaining parts.

So this oil story looks for me more like a bait. The US opens for the Kurds the possibility to get directly hundreds of millions of Dollars (bypassing Bagdad). The Kurds refuse to take the money till now because they know then the US has won. Instead the Kurds have the opinion that the money should go to Bagdad. But that is something the US does not like . Anyhow, most probably the Kurds would not get much because first the US is going to deduct a lions share for big oil and protection. It would be only bread crumbs left for the Kurds and this for all time. 

Thats how I see it. At least it makes some logic to me.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 07:17 | 5037039 smacker
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"Turkey is Nato member and Erdogan is not the master in Turkey"

 

If Erdogan is not the master, who is? The military, again?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:35 | 5037897 supermaxedout
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He can do somethings but somethings he can't. The US/UK is the hegemon in that area with lots of military bases in Turkey, Greece, Creta etc. Lots of spys and agents in the government of course too. If Erdogan would decide to leave Nato then he would immediately get very big problems from within Turkey and from outside.  While the by far biggest part of the population would like to get rid of the US troops. But as long as US troops are stationed in Turkey they will always take strong influence in internal Turkish matters. So the master is the US when push comes to shove. Turkey is regarded by the US/UK empire as a half-independently acting vasall state.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:08 | 5037421 Pee Wee
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All this mumbo-jumbo about laws and courts having any meaning is hilarious.

What a bunch of pikers.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:38 | 5038108 Oilwatcher
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We've screwed over the Kurds so many times and they're still the most reasonable and Western-friendly people in the region.  Good on Turkey for helping the Kurds sell their oil witout approval from US or Baghdad.   I  hope the Kurds get their own full fledged country out of all the turmoil in the region...  they deserve it. 

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