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House Passes "Mean-Spirited" Immigration Bill, Takes Off For 5 Week Vacation; Obama Will Veto

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Last night, minutes before the most ineffectual Congress in US history took off for a well-deserved 5 week vacation, the republican-controlled House escalated the immigration duel with Obama, and passed what democrats called "mean-spirited" border legislation late Friday which as Politico reported was "full of political red meat for their conservative base, including revisions to a 2008 anti-trafficking law and more money for the National Guard." And just to make sure that immigration is a key divisive topic during the midterm elections, one which further splits the nation along predominantly ethnic lines, they also passed a bill to rein in Obama’s program to shield undocumented immigrants from deportations. 

The spending bill passed 223-189 late Friday, with only four Republicans voting "no" and one Democrat voting "yes." The measure ending Obama's deportation relief program passed 216-192, with 11 Republican "no" votes and four Democrats crossing party lines to vote in favor.  "It's dealing with the issue that the American people care about more than any other, and that is stopping the invasion of illegal foreign nationals into our country," said Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn. "And we got to yes."

The passed law would sending migrant youths, mostly those on the US-Mexico border, back home without hearings, winning over conservatives with a companion bill that could lead to deporting more than half a million immigrants whom the Obama administration granted temporary work permits.

This took place a day after GOP leaders pulled the border bill from the floor in a chaotic retreat, a topic which was mocked by Obama just hours earlier during his "we tortured some folks" speech, with tea party lawmakers enthusiastically on board with the new $694 million version and a companion measure that would shut off a program created by Obama granting work permits to immigrants brought here illegally as kids. The second bill also seemed designed to prevent the more than 700,000 people who've already gotten work permits under the program from renewing them, ultimately making them subject to deportation.

Why the last minute surge in activity by a Congress which has done virtually nothing in the past 6 years and punted everything to the Fed's central-planning regime (recall "Get to work, Mr. Chairman")? Because this is merely a retaliation to Obama's announcement earlier in the week that he intends to unilaterally pass his own immigration proposal to deport fewer illegal immigrants.

For what it's worth, Democrats were furious, and warned Republicans that they'd be alienating Latino voters for years to come. "This, in all honesty and candor, is one of the most mean-spirited and anti-immigrant pieces of legislation I've seen in all my years in the Congress," said longtime Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich.

Not surprisingly, as AP reports, Obama quickly condemned the Republican action and said he'd act unilaterally, as best he could. "They're not even trying to solve the problem," the president said. "I'm going to have to act alone, because we do not have enough resources.... It won't pass the Senate and if it did, I would veto it. They know that."

Obama called it a "partisan message bill on party lines that won't solve problems... It's just so they can check a box before leaving town."

Which is ironic, considering days earlier the House gave the GOP permission to begin a lawsuit (note: not impeachment) against Obama for being too despotic and making too many choices on his own.

Obama said he would reallocate resources where he could, while making clear his options were limited without congressional action. The administration already has taken steps including re-ordering immigration court dockets and boosting enforcement measures.

In other words, the latest theatrics by the House have zero chance of becoming law. Which is probably why the House actually passed them.

The moves in the House came on what was to have been the first day of lawmakers' five-week summer recess, delayed by GOP leaders after their vote plans unexpectedly collapsed on Thursday. Senators had already left Washington after killing their own legislation on the border crisis, so there was no prospect of reaching a final deal. But three months before midterm elections, House Republicans were determined to show that they, at least, could take action to address the crisis involving tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors fleeing violence and poverty in Central America to cross illegally into South Texas.

 

"It would be irresponsible and unstatesmanlike to head home for the month without passing a bill to address this serious, present crisis on the border," said Rep. Hal Rogers, R-Ky., chairman of the Appropriations Committee.

The law may be worthless, but it revealed just how much horse trading continues to take place within the splintered republican party:

To reach a deal, GOP leaders had to satisfy the demands of a group of a dozen or more conservative lawmakers who were meeting behind the scenes with Sens. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., and taking their cues from outside groups such as the Heritage Foundation that opposed earlier versions of the legislation.

 

These lawmakers objected to sending any more money to Obama without a strong stance against his two-year-old deportation relief program, which Republicans blame for causing the current border crisis by creating the perception that once here, young migrants would be allowed to stay — a point the administration disputes.

 

House GOP leaders agreed earlier in the week to hold a separate vote to prevent Obama from expanding the deportation relief program, as he's signaled he plans to do, but that didn't satisfy conservatives who held out for stronger steps.

 

Thursday night, those lawmakers huddled in the basement of the Capitol with new House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., until coming up with a deal ending funding for the deportation relief program as well as making changes to the border bill aimed at ensuring the faster removal of the Central American migrant youths.

 

Friday morning, as the full Republican caucus met in the Capitol, conservative lawmakers were declaring victory.

 

"I'm very satisfied," said Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, the leading immigration hardliner in the House.

Among the other provisions of the bill, it will add $35 million more for the National Guard, which would go to reimburse states for guard deployments. Like earlier versions, it would increase spending for overwhelmed border agencies, add more immigration judges and detention spaces, and alter a 2008 anti-trafficking law to permit Central American kids to be sent back home without deportation hearings. That process is currently permitted only for unaccompanied minors arriving from Mexico and Canada.

Finally, it bears repeating that since this bill will never become law, at least not with this Senate, it was all one big waste of time. Just like US politics in general.

 

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Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:23 | 5037297 junction
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Deport the Man From Kenya

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:32 | 5037324 curbjob
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"Quick, the 51st state is killing children,  print moar blue pills !"

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:40 | 5037912 Anusocracy
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Government is destructive so more ineffectual means better.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:53 | 5037956 Comte de Saint ...
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President Obama’s upcoming Executive Order(s) dealing with immigration will likely cover the following aspects:
- This Executive Order will declare that US immigration system is in a state of emergency and shall be managed under the umbrella of National Security. Either Congress or the Supreme Court cannot review this action.
- Mandatory E-verify for all types of businesses operating in continental United States and overseas possessions. They will have up to 180 days from the date this Presidential decree was issued to implement such regulation; there will be tax deduction incentives for those companies who adhere to E-verify before the dateline.
- Unlawfully present immigrants in the United States who qualify under S.744's requirements will be granted a Temporary Protected Status and a renewable 2-year work permit only (excluding disability insurance, these people won’t have access to any government-sponsored benefits such as unemployment insurance, general assistance, welfare programs, etc).
- Unlawfully present immigrants in the United States ages 18 to 25 who qualify under S.744's requirements will compulsorily have to register in the Selective Service System.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 20:52 | 5039115 The Alarmist
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Great.  The people an average US citizen would want holdinga gun over them in their defence would be those who have little to nothiner who have something in common with them.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:43 | 5037920 theonewhowaskazu
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The wellfare state and the concept of open borders are clearly incompatible. 

Theoretically, the concept of open borders is compatible with freedom & libertarianism, and makes sense. However, in practice, even if open borders were allowed, everybody who enters the country would have to be fully documented (and thus not illegal), and the government would have to give no handouts whatsoever, because if they did, there would be a clear incentive for the poor to simply immigrate over and dilute the wealth of the nation.

Seeing as we have a situation where neither of those two conditions even close to being met - the requirement that immigrants are fully documented, and the requirement that they are not the beneficiaries of government handouts - the concept of open borders and encouraging uneducated immigrants to enter the country is clearly ridiculous. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:51 | 5037946 Keyser
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Not if the intent is to overload the system to the point of collapse... Google the Cloward-Pivens stratgey and all will become clear... 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:01 | 5037981 curbjob
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"The wellfare state and the concept of open borders are clearly incompatible."

 

So is the concept of "free trade" and closed borders.

If production can cross borders freely, why not the means of production; labor.

Closed borders should mean just that, visas AND tarrifs.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:33 | 5038093 Lin S
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It is far more than ridiculous, it is tantamount to national suicide.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:34 | 5037329 Bloppy
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Odd: Ed Schultz on MSNBC is defying the network party line and coming out against open borders

http://tinyurl.com/owooxao


Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:45 | 5037356 bigdumbnugly
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no shit?

 

cats and dogs lying down together...

 

truly the end of days.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:05 | 5037562 njfeds
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Get over it already

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:24 | 5037303 Seasmoke
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Maybe they can pass a bill to bomb their schools and hospitals 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:59 | 5037400 toady
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That Should do the trick here in AZ. The governors race is nothing but control the border, send obama the bill, kill all humans, etc. Now the Washington boys get to come home and join the chorus. It's almost like there's nothing else going on. All immigration, all the time.

Vote out all the incumbents!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:43 | 5038127 moneybots
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"Vote out all the incumbents!"

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 16:07 | 5038366 hidingfromhelis
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I'll get right on that as soon as I finish rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:05 | 5037411 Freddie
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In Gaza?

This is actually decent news.  The public, mainly conservatives, hammered the phones to try to stop Obama-Democrats open-borders invasion.   I would rather they take 5 weeks off because it stops the Senate from pushing through their amnesty.

Obama, the DEMOCRATs and RINO-NeoCon/AIPAC gang are all the same.  There are a few decent Constitutionalists left in the GOP in the House.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:02 | 5037550 Bananamerican
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I just realized that I will probably never vote again (in this present 2 party gang bang system) in my lifetime...haven't since 2000.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:25 | 5037304 d edwards
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Politico=f-ing propaganda arm of the 0bamao regime.

 

The majority of people (outside the DC-NY clusterfuck) want the flood of illegals STOPPED  the border CLOSED, and these invaders encouraged and enabled by the regime RETURNED TO THEIR OWN COUNTIES ASAP and stop fucking around with our nation.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:09 | 5037424 i_call_you_my_base
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It won't make a difference. Until you address why they are here, employment, nothing will change. This is purely political on both sides. Both party's corporate owners need cheap employment to maintain low labor costs, which makes them boatloads of cash and also keeps prices low, ie masks inflation.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:11 | 5037429 Captain Willard
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If You are a worker, they bring in immigrants to depress your wages. If you are a small business owner, they crush you with regulations and laws favoring crony capitalists. 

 

This is all theater because they have no intent to pass anything to help the average Joe. Republicans want cheap labor. Democrats want more clients for the  Welfare State. It is that simple.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:16 | 5037444 zerophilo
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d edwards: grow up.

I guaran-fucking-tee you would be an "illegal" if you were born in one of the countries that a lot of those children and families are coming from into our country. They come here not to piss you off and steal your already shitty opportunities. They come to find their own opportunity and to escape awful living conditions, political discrimination, and to increase their economic freedom. You're absolutely shortsighted and typical of most retarded Americans who don't like any immigrants because this is "your land." Grow up. If it were you in that situation you would do the same thing for yourself and your family: you would take responsibility and get the fuck out of those countries that the CIA has most likely made a hell hole in the last 50 years.

 

They're not "invaders", and they're not "fucking around with [our] nation." They're trying to live a half-way decent life.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:56 | 5037530 Oquities
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they come here knowing they can get in and likely stay.  they will take a job or welfare, whichever.  no doubt, as you say, i would do it too if necessary.  but we just can't have open borders, or we will become Guatemala.  in our coming destitute condition, name one country that would allow us to stay and care for us.  none would.  because none can afford to.  and neither can we.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:32 | 5037680 Aussie V
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It's ironic really, as you guys in the US are finally starting to "Reap what you sow!"

As long as the US Govt keeps meddling in other country's affairs and keeping poverty as the NO 1 export of African and Sth American nations you are gonna have a domestic immigration problem.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:49 | 5037740 Suisse
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Why do you have boat people then?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 17:58 | 5038710 Aussie V
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For the exact same reason!!

We follow to the beat of the same drum. No secret there.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:31 | 5037883 astroloungers
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"they will take a job or welfare, whichever"

actually they do both. the amount of fraud perpped by latino illegals would embarass native born criminals. they know the worst that could happen is deportation (never). the cost, both fiscal and social is a straw that will break the camels back. to believe that most are just poor immigrants trying to better their lot  is childish at best. they are criminals form the start....illegal.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:03 | 5037540 nightshiftsucks
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Yeah dickhead lets let anyone into this country who wants to be here and then we'll see how quickly the US becomes a 3rd world country. Keep my fucking money out of it. By the way dickhead Zero,how many illegals did you take in ?  If the SHTF ever  happens zero dickhead and i run into you I'll show you what mean spirited is.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:02 | 5037545 booboo
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"They come here not to piss you off and steal your already shitty opportunities. They come to find their own opportunity and to escape awful living conditions, political discrimination, and to increase their economic freedom."

"YOUR shitty opportunity" or "increased THEIR economic freedom.

This is all you need to know about the progressives, see, your time has come and gone and you just need to die and make some room for Juan because he will accept shitty food safety, shitty health care, unsafe working conditions; Juan is used to being clubbed by the man, shaken down at a street corner by the Policia. He's used to lazy fucking government workers doing nothing all day.

The open borders crowd are doing the bidding for the Chamber of Commerce, Government Unions and Big AG and they are too fucking stupid to realize it.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:06 | 5037566 FightingtheFed
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You either protect our Soverneighty or be countd with the Treasonists.

Not that complicated.

There's over 90 Million Americans without jobs and someone has the nerve to offer jobs to illegals?

Democrats should be fucking shot on spot as far as i'm concerned. I've had enough of the their assault on my Forefather's Constitution. As I stated those guilty of Treason should be shot on spot.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 17:02 | 5038556 Raymond K Hessel
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Treason is a little over the top.  I agree with you on all the other stuff.

I just don't think we need to embelish or get into hyperbole.  People like this are horrible enough on their own without our help.

We shouldn't always label criminals as terrorists because calling someone a terrorist has a specific context to his actions. Similary, a person who hates America shouldn't also be a traitor.  It diminishes treason.  Treason means something.  Hating America means something else. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 18:44 | 5038824 boattrash
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I don't discriminate. I think Repubs should be lined up along the same wall with the Dems. FFS, What's the difference between Shit, and Pure Shit? Are they not both still shit?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:07 | 5037576 Berspankme
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Fuck you, just fuck you. They are invaders turning this cuntry into the same 3rd world hellhole they just left

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:18 | 5037619 SilverCoinLover
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Zerophilo: Using your logic (blaming the CIA) we should take in about 50 to 100 million from all over the world right now. Please inform us of your home town so we can send them all to you.

and

"They come here not to ... steal your already shitty opportunities". But they come to "increase their economic freedom". So how are they going to do that in a land of shitty opportunities?

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:26 | 5037870 WatchnSee
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Zero- maybe you should grow the fuck up. They are invaders. I don't give a shit if their own countries are cesspools. Not my probem, nor can we (the US) be expected to fix it. There are over 7B people on the planet, most live in shitty conditions. Should we take them all in?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:42 | 5037919 IronShield
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It can only be done legally; and not on their terms, our terms.

Immigration should be effectively halted, without exception, until this has been resolved.  Period.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:56 | 5037969 astroloungers
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me thinks you are the type that is willing to give away the farm......as long as it is someone elses.... bless your

charitable heart

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:28 | 5038069 Lin S
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Cool. Put them up in your house, pay all of their bills for them, and walk your Mother Theresa talk.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:04 | 5037561 max2205
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Open boarders is illegal and insane

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:11 | 5037826 CrazyCatLady
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Couldnt possibly have anything to do with our own CIA going in and fucking their country up could it?  Do your knuckles bleed when you walk?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:34 | 5038099 ajax
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"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them."

- Paul Valery

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:25 | 5037308 Everyman
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Oh I get it, it is "mean spirited" because John Conyers says so? Well that is as far left as you can go.  What a BS lefty article, clearly a democrat party mouthpiece.  Even Obama wants to change the 2008(at least in the news pieces) law to allow deportations too.

 

The bill is no more political then Harry Ried not bring some 380 some congressional bills for a vote in th Senate.  The horse trading also goes on in the democratic party as wel. There are a lot o democratic members of congress supporting the GOP because their states are under illegal immigration squeeze plays. Like sending these kids wherever the gov't wanted too.

 

This administration is way out of control. If you didn't like Bush, how do you like this guy and HIS thugs and criminals?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:39 | 5037338 Oldwood
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While I'm not going to defend the republicans, how many bills have they sent to the democrat controlled Senate that have never been brought up for debate, much less a vote? 300? Is the litmus test for the congress that they must either submit bills that they know Obama will sign or else they are a do nothing obstructionist political body? I'm sick of this divisive bullshit from our media. I expect no less from the political parties but seriously, we are so fucked if this is what we are going to receive as balanced or unbiased reporting. These fuckwads should be hung by their nuts in a public square. Then...maybe.. we would see some meaningful bills passed.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:48 | 5037367 Tulpa
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Also note the common leftist trick of conflating Congress with the HoR.  "Congress took off for a five week vacation" -- the Senate was already on vacay.

They really don't want people to realize the Senate exists and is in Dem control.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:32 | 5037475 nmewn
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Yes, I was just gonna say, Reid & the Senate split the day before. And to set the record straight, TP wasn't interested in the least in granting Mr Contempt of Congress (Eric Holder) authority to pick FORTY immigration judges in one of these asinine bills...because he's such an astute judge of character.

Of democratic poison pills and what-not...lol.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:06 | 5037417 Freddie
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Hairy Reed's Senate has not had a budget in 6 (?) years?  The GOP is hopeless but the Dems and O are evil like their voters.  ZH still has plenty of O lovers.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:29 | 5037468 i_call_you_my_base
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"The GOP is hopeless but the Dems and O are evil like their voters."

Recency bias. Whoever isn't in power is always the righteous one.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:32 | 5037687 Everyman
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"recency bias" tinkebell  Which of your professors taught you that little concept of direction?  Pretty sure you could no come up with that yourself, you just are not that intelligent pointing fingers.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:54 | 5037525 toady
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The ol' dem/rep obstructionism is getting old, but remember, the only thing that's worse is when the dems or repubs own both the House and Senate.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:28 | 5037668 Max Cynical
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The house should defund the executive branch until O seals the border, cuts off foreign aid and halts all remittances (Western Union) to Mexico...they we'll have a debate. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:37 | 5037698 Max Cynical
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The U.S. Military should move into Mexico and seize the territory within 5 miles of the U.S. border to stop any movement into the U.S. and for the military to occupy this territory until this problem is resolved.

I would also support a mission for U.S. special forces to raid the Tijuana prison where Sgt Andrew Tahmooressi is being held captive and bring him home.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:22 | 5037852 Pure Evil
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But,........but,........what would we do without our drugs?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 17:10 | 5038578 Raymond K Hessel
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I'd push the border all the way south down to Guatemala.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:45 | 5037359 Tulpa
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At least when they were posting Putin propaganda you could say they were offering a different POV from what you'd read in the US MSM.

This is totally indefensible; it would be right at home on Politico or HuffPost.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:41 | 5037497 nmewn
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Speaking of Vlad...

Russia enacts 'draconian' law for bloggers and online media

"It includes measures to ensure that bloggers cannot remain anonymous, and states that social networks must maintain six months of data on its users.

The information must be stored on servers based in Russian territory, so that government authorities can gain access."

...I bet that dried up old hag Senator Feinstein solves the California water problem all by herself when she finds out what the Russians have done ;-)

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28583669

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:25 | 5037309 Coletrane
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Since when is giving The Nat Guard more money to protect the border or rolling back restrictions on removing illegals from the country "red meat for their political base " ?

What the fuck .

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:45 | 5037508 Atomizer
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Since when did the DHS decide to take no action?  Another Alphabet Agency swimming the waters to score on Government theft by taxpayers proxy. 

Awaiting your response DHS. Then your other partners, NSA cannot find any terrorist. 

Can you understand why we need to defund both of you?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:12 | 5037602 toady
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Remember all the fun during the republican debates listing which government agencies they'd abolish? They never listed DHS, but that's where I'd start. Probably the biggest MIC boondoggle ever. Trillions of dollars and they don't do anything, especially anything about "homeland security".

DHS is a lion in sheep's clothing, waiting to crack down and set up the ovens.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 17:12 | 5038580 Raymond K Hessel
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You know what?

 

 

Department of Homeland Security = Sturmabteilung

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:28 | 5037315 TrustWho
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I am telling my middle east muslim families to quit the legal immigration crap and fly to mexico city. The democratic party wants you as citizens if you have children.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:28 | 5037316 Cognitive Dissonance
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Divide and conquer. Apparently it still works.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:16 | 5037614 toady
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It's election season, don't ya know!

Yay! My team said they'll do something!

I really believe them this time!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:31 | 5037321 autofixer
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Why doesn't the author just go ahead and quote one of the most Marxist members of the CONgress about the bill? Oh wait, they did! The author does realize this is purely political grandstanding so that members can go home on "vacation" and say "they passed a bill?" Besides, who wants CONgress to pass anything? All they do is tax us and take liberties away.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:25 | 5037461 Ms. Erable
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Hey, it's all gonna be OK; they're gonna sue El Prezidente. That should fix everything.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:32 | 5037322 Aussie V
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Is there a legal condition or, 'induced crisis' in the US constitution where, Obama can suspend Congress and elections and reign through until "the crisis' is fixed??????

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:50 | 5037366 IridiumRebel
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In other words extraordinary emergency measures, originally designed for an America devastated in a nuclear attack, were now to be applied to anything the White House considered an emergency. Thus Cheney and Rumsfeld continued their secret planning when Clinton was president; both men, both Republicans, were heads of major corporations and not even in the government at that time. Moreover, Andrew Cockburn claims that the Clinton administration, according to a Pentagon source, had “no idea what was going on.”[8] (As I shall explain later, this sweeping claim needs some qualification.)

The expanded application of COG to any emergency was envisaged as early as 1984.

http://www.infowars.com/us-constitution-may-be-suspended-war-national-em...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:11 | 5037590 Aussie V
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Thanks.

I'm tellin ya, Obama is the right man for the Hitler moustache.......just wait and see

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 17:15 | 5038590 Raymond K Hessel
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The other method would be to respond to open rebellion, suspend posse comitatus and mobilize NorthCom

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:43 | 5037335 alexcojones
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What? Seven Percent Approval rating-!

You call Congress "Ineffectual?"

What if it was only 6, or 5?

Didn't Congress vote Lots of $$$$ to help out those Poor Israelites?

That's sort of "effectual" isn't it?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:48 | 5037364 Oldwood
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they won't give Obama what he wants

they won't fight Obama harder

 

Why do you think congress's approval rating is so low?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:38 | 5037336 q99x2
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Deport the president for being an undocumented alien.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:43 | 5037351 Tulpa
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Wow, actually blatantly supporting Obama now?  ZH has totally jumped the shark.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:49 | 5037372 Oldwood
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feeding baby seals to the sharks

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:52 | 5037378 Tyler Durden
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Reading the actual article, instead of just the title before commenting, is generally not a bad idea.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:59 | 5037398 Atomizer
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Stop making me laugh this early in the morning. 

Kidding aside, keep up the good work. :-)

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:38 | 5037704 Everyman
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I don't know which "Tyler" you are, but surely a replacement, scanners anyone?  This article is trash AND is clearly supporting the democratic party line and clearly a GOP bash. I am not in either party as I consider them BOTH terrorist organizations. 

This article was an is bullshit. Stop posting crap like this.  Quoting John Fucking Conyers, really?????

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 21:01 | 5039136 jerry_theking_lawler
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Haha. Love some TD. This is Fight Club, man up or pick up your front teeth from the gutter...

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:44 | 5037354 Catullus
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It's just the new law in the US. Just enforce whichever laws you want or put up a pathetic defense of the current laws in court (or just don't even defend laws in court like California did with prop whatever gay marriage), and you effectively usurp the law.

Can't get anyone to agree with you? Fuck it. Just do it anyway. No one can tell you otherwise. #representativedemocracysucks

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:49 | 5037373 mastersnark
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America has over 300 million people, a real unemployment rate of 15%, and a welfare utilization rate of 45%, so I certainly hope they pass a real "anti-immigrant" bill

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:54 | 5037383 Atomizer
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Let Obama veto, then begin impeachment precedings. Forget the suing lawsuit. He needs to be taken out of power for not following the constitutional laws of our country.

When someone repeatedly states, 'I have to act on my own.' The Law is broken. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:54 | 5037528 oak
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Pure speculation, after november election, republican might start impeachment precedings on obama to prepare for 2016 presidential election.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 10:57 | 5037394 Uncle Remus
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.

too despotic and making too many choices on his own.

 

Now that's funny. What's next; milk, graham crackers and a nap?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:03 | 5037410 agent default
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Just bring back the army from all over the world and lock down the fucking border.  What is simpler than that.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:06 | 5037414 world_debt_slave
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and the infestation continues

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:12 | 5037430 Jayda1850
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Woke up this morning with a massive hangover, feeling like my head is going to explode. Then, if I wasn't already a glutton for punishment, I check ZH and see the latest shit show going on in good ol' AmerikA. Feel like headbanger's avatar.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:13 | 5037438 Atomizer
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I don't give a fuck about republican party tells you that the Democrats will run campaign money. Get this fucking piece of shit out of office. Joe Biden is a goofball, easily managed. 

We need to reverse to regain trust. We are the Pillar of Trust. Globalist henchmen have severed our global trust. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:14 | 5037439 Took Red Pill
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 "It's dealing with the issue that the American people care about more than any other, and that is stopping the invasion of illegal foreign nationals into our country," said Rep. Michele Bachmann.

Speak for yourself, Michelle. There are many issues I care about more than this one.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:05 | 5037565 Atomizer
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Beg to differ, we care about the the families who are unwittingly killed through sending US Taxpayers blood money to Israel. Fucking animals. Imagine if everyone in the world sending money to kill every banker in the world? Would that be accepted? There are still good bankers, just very few. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:14 | 5037440 news printer
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Watch: How Liberals React When Asked to House An Illegal Immigrant Child In Their Homes

 

Dan Joseph of MRC TV visited predominantly liberal Oldtown Alexandria, Virgina and asked residents to sign a petition in support of bringing illegal immigrant children to their city.

Those who agreed were then asked to sign a second petition agreeing to house an illegal immigrant child in their own home or apartment.

Here’re are the results:

http://youtu.be/RQzQQCtGDFg

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:26 | 5037441 GrinandBearit
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Just like professional wrestling...

When the camera is on them, they hate each other.. when the camera is turned off, they're best buddies.

Two heads on the same body.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:16 | 5037445 NoWayJose
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The only purpose to this bill was to let the GOP House members go back and hit their 5 week 'fund raising vacation'. Statesmanship died when Newt left the House, and everything after that time has just been a wild spending spree by both sides.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:23 | 5037459 Atomizer
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Please stop the left /right paring. Both work for the central planning group. 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:38 | 5037487 JerseyJoe
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Wait...hold the phone.  I think you mean Dem/ Repub pairing.  Different animals than left/right.  Constitutional conservatives are considered "right" when most just want a return to Constitutional principles.  How that gets lumped with being "right" is the magic of the Marxist media.    

No matter - we are on the road to financial collapse and the whistle will sound:  JUMP BALL.  All bets will be off.  

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:25 | 5037463 rwe2late
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 Of course, if they REALLY wanted to do something about the flood of migrants and refugees,

they would legalize most drugs, end the farcial Pentagon-CIA "drug war", rescind NAFTA and CAFTA,

prohibit US support for coups against elected governments (e.g. Honduras, Haiti),

 

and instead of funding building an Israeli style wall, donate some funds without strings

for actual humanitarian aid to partially make up for the crimes sponsored by the US

in places like Guatemala and Haiti.

 

And enacting a realistic migrant worker program would not hurt either.

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:26 | 5037464 pupdog1
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" "This, in all honesty and candor, is one of the most mean-spirited and anti-immigrant pieces of legislation I've seen in all my years in the Congress," said longtime Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich. "

 

This from a guy who presides over a state that doesn't even qualify as the third world any more.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:40 | 5037495 JerseyJoe
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He is also an idiot and a socialist but I repeat myself. 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 16:30 | 5038441 Blankenstein
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What do you know about honesty John??

 

"DETROIT (AP) — A former Detroit city councilwoman was sentenced to more than three years in prison Wednesday for bribery after a federal judge refused to set aside her guilty plea during a stormy court hearing dominated by a dispute over evidence of other payoffs.
As guards cleared the packed courtroom, Monica Conyers yelled that she planned to appeal. The wife of U.S. Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., wanted to withdraw her guilty plea, suggesting she was the victim of "badgering" last year when she admitted taking cash to support a Houston company's sludge contract with the city."

 

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20100310/FREE/100319981/monica-cony...


"The suggestion that John Conyers was implicated in his wife’s scandal has hurt him politically, even though he has not been charged or accused of criminal wrongdoing. And potential voters probably won’t be happy about the fact that despite his salary of almost $175,000 a year, taxpayers picked up the tab for Mrs. Conyers’ legal defense."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/02/scandal-plagued-john-conyers-in-the-fight-of-his-political-life/#ixzz39Gi9MSKc

 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 18:19 | 5038773 Blankenstein
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More on the CONgressman:

" Two former staff members of U.S. Rep. John Conyers Jr., D-Michigan, say the longtime Detroit congressman made them baby-sit his children, run errands and work on political campaigns while they were on his congressional payroll."

 

"The House ethics committee does have the power to vote for an investigation to be launched against another member of Congress. In the case of Conyers, the committee has not voted to launch an investigation."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/12/griffin.conyers/

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:34 | 5037479 SillySalesmanQu...
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We can only hope that the members of CONgress, while on their five week sabbatical, will be in close proximity of construction or remodeling projects, hot tubs, roofs, bankers who have fallen out of favor, post offices and pissed off constituents....

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:39 | 5037492 Your Creator
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The Demoshit party is "mean spirited" for telling them to invade the border.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 11:43 | 5037505 JerseyJoe
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And funding it...with millions spent by the bureaucrats in DC in prepping for this event - long before it happened.  All part of the Cloward-Piven Marxist plan for Amerika.  

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:03 | 5037547 cooperbry
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If Obama tells these countries that the children who come here will be deported, the issue will be resolved.  He will not do that, so, he is fully to blame.  Elections have consequences !

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:12 | 5037598 Rjgroad
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Not nearly strong enough. Border security is a joke and needs urgent, impactful attention. We also need a withholding tax on all remittances from the U S to Mexico and Latin America.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:18 | 5037618 Duffy Duck
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With 15-20 million illegals already here, against US law, and against the Will and Consent of the American People [including most legal immigrants], vetoing the bill is an act of Treason at worst, and certainly anti-democratic and anti-common sense.

 

How much is enough?  How many undocumented Democrats, largely supported by tax dollars, is enough to guarantee the 1 party state the Left truly craves?

 

 

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:19 | 5037622 Laddie
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Just read the post here about California's drought and water needs. IMMIGRATION is one of the MAJOR causes for water shortages. Our nation's TOTAL growth, according to a recent news report, comes from immigration and the 2nd generation of immigrants are as fertile as the immigrants so ZOOM huge growth continues. The GOP are owned by Jewish donors, fact:

KOCH BROS. SPONSOR PRO-AMNESTY BUZZFEED EVENT
by Lee Stranahan 10 May 2013

An event touting itself as an evening of immigration reform discussion with a "diversity of opinion" turns out to be slanted heavily towards "comprehensive immigration reform." The BuzzFeed Brews Special Edition: Immigration Summit, sponsored by the Charles Koch Institute, will take place Tuesday, May 14th from 6 PM - 8 PM Eastern Time. The Charles Koch Institute is an educational offshoot of the Charles Koch Foundation.

It's an unusual pairing: BuzzFeed Editor-in-Chief Ben Smith has a reputation for liberal bias (he recently blamed "the right" for conditions of Kermit Gosnell's abortion clinic) will be the moderator; Charles Koch, founder of the libertarian CATO Institute, is one of the people most reviled by the left.

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http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2011/07/19/mayor-bloomberg-detroit-needs-...
19 July 2011
Mayor Bloomberg: Detroit Needs Final Solution

This writer has written extensively on Adelson, Zuckerberg, and the rest of the gang:
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/author/pcleburne/

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:32 | 5037676 JRobby
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House Passes "Mean-Spirited" Immigration Bill, Takes Off For 5 Week Vacation.

Who will wait on them while they are on their 5 week vacation? They should poison these fucks.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 12:45 | 5037728 CerpherJoe
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Tyler - I hope you didn't write this article.

Whoever wrote it is a clueless useful idiot of Marxist advance men.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:02 | 5037794 loveyajimbo
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Obongo and Holder agree... enforcing American laws is "mean-spirited"...  they both are "Traitor Assholes".

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:04 | 5037797 HeavydutyMexica...
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This country would be better off if the racist and broke baby boomers would just expire.  They're working longer than they should have because their hedonistic lifestyle left them broke and dependent on government. Young people are unemployed because these worthless old timers are taking all the entry level jobs.  Baby boomers are the cancer of America.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:33 | 5037887 CrazyCatLady
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I blame big pharma.  People used to die of all sorts of things.  Now everyone is entitled to live past their usefullness.  And i say entitled, because obama told me health care was a right.

 

/s

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:11 | 5037825 Otto Zitte
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Of the moral, by the moral for the moral. The others damn themselves.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:44 | 5037905 Bear
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"the most ineffectual Congress in US history " ... How can they not be ineffective with the most radical and autocratic president in history.

"For what it's worth, Democrats were furious, and warned Republicans that they'd be alienating Latino voters for years to come" ... Since when are the Democrats so worried that the Republicans will lose voters. Are they now out to help the Republicans so a good balance will be maintained. When one party is trying to 'help' the other one know something is fishy.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 14:17 | 5038032 Lin S
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When is the invasion going to end? I doubt it ever will until everything about this country finally falls apart/collapses (which is getting closer and closer, every day).

I also doubt any invader-parasites will ever be made to leave, unless Americans take up arms and drive them out (along with their benefactors in the ruling class).

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 15:12 | 5038213 Marley
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Baby face Cruz wants better governance from a government he doesn't believe in.  Ever feel like you've been cheated?

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 15:36 | 5038280 dadcss
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"This, in all honesty and candor, is one of the most mean-spirited and anti-immigrant pieces of legislation I've seen in all my years in the Congress," said longtime Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich.

 

I am from Michigan, and outside of Detroit and Ann Arbor, Michigan citizens could care less what the blood sucking liberals like Conyers have to say.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 15:49 | 5038304 Grouchy Marx
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"undocumented immigrants"?

What a pleasant euphemism!

Call them what they are: criminal invaders.

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 16:15 | 5038392 Super Hans
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I hope you all like beans in rice!

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 17:55 | 5038705 Goldilocks
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Johnny Mathis - Wonderful Wonderful - Lyrics Below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0_XfxnXWI (2:55)

~//~

Wonderful! Wonderful! by Lawrence Welk (S2).wmv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmgCi52f6_E (15:20)

LAWRENCE WELK - "Calcutta" (1960)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aWkhuAu8go (2:26)

The Lawrence Welk Show closing credits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol9_0schMHs (2:00)

Sat, 08/02/2014 - 18:52 | 5038843 pragmatic hobo
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... why do these fuck bags need vacation, let alone for 5 weeks? vacation from what?

Sun, 08/03/2014 - 08:59 | 5039961 roadhazard
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Repukes no better than Obama. Throw money at every problem.  Here is the REAL question.

What is Mexico's responsibility. Sanctions cost America nothing and Mexico gets the point.

Type of sanctions that can be used against Mexico.

1. No money transfers to Mexico. (twenty percent of the Mexican economy)

2. No Mexican long haul drivers cross the border.

3. The twenty six families that run Mexico that have money in American accounts have them frozen.

 It's not that hard.

 

All together now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLqqZmNFa_A

Sun, 08/03/2014 - 09:01 | 5039973 nmewn
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A-yep.

I would also add cutting off Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador from "the public purse". I'm thinking that would get someones attention down there.

But thats not even on the table, now why is that?

Because they want this "crisis" to continue and it could be fixed tomorrow morning.

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