Russia Accuses US Of Fabricating Satellite Images, Creating "Wall Of Propaganda" To Incite Other Countries

Tyler Durden's picture

It was ten days ago when on the heels of Russia's 30-minute detailed presentation of what it believes happened to MH-17, the US government released a satellite trajectory map of what it says was the flight's path and the site from which the missile was shot as well as various other satellite images "proving" the missile that took down the Boeing 777 was fired by the pro-Russian separatists.  Yesterday the Russian defense ministry finally responded to the US release stating that the "satellite images Kiev published as ‘proof’ it didn’t deploy anti-aircraft batteries around the MH17 crash site carry altered time-stamps and are from days after the MH17 tragedy." In other words, the evidence the US has present to form public opinion was in the form of "altered images carrying wrong time-stamps."

The satellite image on the left was provided by the Russian Defense Ministry on 14 July, 2014. On the right is the image that Kiev claims were taken by its satellites on July 16, 2014. Image from

RT reports that the images, which Kiev claims were taken by its satellites at the same time as those taken by Russian satellites, are neither Ukrainian nor authentic, according to Moscow's statement. The Defense Ministry said the images were apparently made by an American KeyHole reconnaissance satellite, because the two Ukrainian satellites currently in orbit, Sich-1 and Sich-2, were not positioned over the part of Ukraine’s Donetsk Region shown in the pictures. The Defense ministry further alleges weather and lighting conditions in the images were not possible at the dates and times Ukraine claims they were made, the Russian ministry said.


At least one of the images published by Ukraine shows signs of being altered by an image editor, the statement added.


“It’s the latest ‘masterpiece’ in the Ukrainian exercise in conspiracy theories, an attempt to divert responsibility,” the ministry said.


“It can take a deserved place next to other allegations against Russia voiced by Kiev that claimed that Russia was responsible for masterminding the Maidan protest and the tragedy in Odessa.”


“Apparently that’s why the real owners of those photos are hesitating to publish them under their own name, since it would derail the myth of the omniscience of their space reconnaissance,” the Russian ministry said.


The ministry also criticized images published by Kiev to back its allegations that Russia smuggled heavy weapons over the border and shelled Ukrainian army positions.


The images lack proper time stamps and coordinates, while Kiev didn’t bother to explain why it believes that whatever vehicles are shown in them are Russian, the statement said.

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Among the photos released is the following comparison of satellite images published by Russia and Ukraine as presented by Kiev in an attempt to dispute the authenticity of Moscow’s photos. The shadows are cast in different directions in the two images, proving that they could not have been almost at the same time two days apart, as indicated by the time stamps.

The weather is also clearly different, with the Russian image showing a cloudy day, while the image presented by Kiev shows a clear day - showing that the images could not have been taken less than an hour apart, as claimed by the time stamps. The Russian military say the actual weather conditions at the time can be easily double-checked by independent sources.

In another comparison with the images used by Ukraine, it was purposely degraded in quality in order to point out some irregularities. No such irregularities are present in the original image, the Russian military said.

The complete photo series released by the Russian Ministry of Defense can be found at this link.

Furthermore, as we reported last week, the propaganda war is not only about "who shot MH17?" but just how far the US is portraying Russia as escalating in order to frame its own escalation as an appropriate and measured response. It is here that ?Moscow again retaliated to Washington after releasing an incendiary statement, accusing the US of spinning and distorting facts to allege that Russia is testing a new cruise missile, banned by a landmark Cold War treaty. RT reports on the statement by the Russian foreign ministry:

Once again the US is trying (and again rather clumsily) to act as a mentor, for some reason pretending to possesses the truth in the last instance and have the right to judge others. Claims are made with little to no evidence and based on warped logic, in other words presented not with further experts’ analyses in mind.

The purpose seems to be to create a wall of information noise to incite other countries, and to boil up a propagandist brew for the media. Or does the US administration still sincerely deceive itself that the world can take Washington’s word?”

The US report never specified how exactly Russia violated the treaty, instead offering a vague finding that: “The United States has determined that the Russian Federation is in violation of its obligations under the INF Treaty not to possess, produce, or flight-test a ground-launched cruise missile (GLCM) with a range capability of 500 km to 5,500 km, or to possess or produce launchers of such missiles.”

This would be a direct violation of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF) signed by Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev in 1987, which banned missiles that could carry nuclear warheads in the range of 500-5,500 km. The White House described the supposed transgression as a “very serious matter” of which it has been aware since 2008, again not naming the suspect.

The media in the meantime were quick to allege the missile in question was the R-500 cruise missile with an officially stated range of 500km, which some believe can be easily modified for greater ranges.

Russia previously issued a brief response to the allegations that was dismissive, but called for further dialogue. The latest diatribe, however, makes no attempt to seek common ground, and takes pot shots at the entirety of the US approach to international treaties – repeatedly accusing Washington of duplicity and bad faith.

“American officials cite classified intelligence, when questioned about their findings. The value of such intelligence has been amply proven by the ‘Iraqi weapons of mass destruction’ myth. Such undercover research becomes even less trustworthy, with regular leaks of obviously untrue and provocative pieces of information about the conflict in eastern Ukraine, while data coming from sources beyond US control gets ignored. Years pass, but the Americans have learned nothing.”

Of course, it wouldn't be tried and true game theory retaliation without re-escalation which is precisely what Russia did when it said it exposed US hypocrisy, who themselves are developing “target practice missiles” similar to missiles in question, as well as drones, which violate the spirit of the INF Treaty.

The American report claims that “all US activities during the reporting period were consistent with the obligations set forth in the INF Treaty. Russia did not raise any new INF Treaty compliance issues during the reporting period.”

The full statement can be read here.

And while at this point Russia is correct that the "wall of information noise" has hit a level that will make any factual findings over either the events surrounding the downing of MH17 impossible, what is also quite clear is that as we forecast two weeks ago, the propaganda war between Russia and the US, up until now largely contained by the "Cold" adjective, has now escalated well into lukewarm status, and is resulting in both financial and trade victims, both on the Russian side as well as in the "West". One can hope that the ongoing escalation, which is a miniature, very concentrated replica of what happened with the arms build up during the cold war, does not also lead to a conventional or, worse, nuclear standoff, because in the new normal, the war is no longer over ideology (one would certainly have trouble identifying which is the more socialist country) but over reserve currency status. It is here that the US has the most to lose.

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alexcojones's picture

Since Waco, OKlahoma City and 9-11,

I'll never believe anything "My" .gov tells me is a "Fact"

Putin for Man of The Year

McMolotov's picture

Where are the ATC recordings? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller???

Things that make you go, "Hmmm... our government is probably full of shit."

kliguy38's picture

BEing "prepared" for release soon......hehehehhe

BaBaBouy's picture

WHERE ARE THE KIEV/PILOT Communication Recordings ???????????????????????

1) KIEV Airport Has Tape Siezed By UKR Secret Service.

2) Black Box From Plane Has Recording, Its In Britain, WHY Have They Not Released Anything ???

Cliff Claven Cheers's picture

Looks like the same guys that worked on Obomba birth certificate are still employed now working on satelite images. 

813kml's picture

And they still don't have any Photoshop skills, if they weren't government jobs they would have been fired.

InvalidID's picture


 Anyone else notice the quality of the Russian photos sucks? The Dr picture debate aside for  a second you have to admit the Russians are taking shit pictures...

ZerOhead's picture

"The Russians are taking shit pictures..."

Compared to what... those American military satellite pictures?

InvalidID's picture


 If I were Russian Intel I wouldn't want to put our pictures in the public domain showing how far behind we are. I'd have kept that to myself.... MAybe their desperate? Hope we won't notice? I dunno, maybe all the pics are fakes....


 FFS, Google Earth has better image quality...

ZerOhead's picture

Well one thing we can be sure about is that if it was a missile (air to air or surface to air) then it exploded extremely close to the cockpit by examining the direction of the shrapnel that scored across the tip of the left wing.

A 140 lb. Buk missile warhead travelling at mach 3 (3,000 feet per second) with an explosive warhead detonating at 25,000 fps at that range would have vaporized the cockpit.


Great quality shots here by the way...

InvalidID's picture


 I didn't see a cockpit in those pics. I'll be honest and tell you I don't know what the damage from each possible missile would look like. I also wouldn't place a lot of confidence in anything anyone said at this point being investigators were denied access to the crash site while it was being looted.


 Odds are it WAS a BUK missile no matter who fired it. The real question; Ukraine or Russian 'Separatists'


 Whoever fired it they fucked that parrot up.... LOL

MalteseFalcon's picture


The Ukranian jet shot the 777 down with it's machine guns.

The End.

ZerOhead's picture

Unlikely to be an an Su-25 unless it was an air to air missle. It can reach 33,000 ft easily enough if the pilot has oxygen (not pressurized) but if you shoot those cannons for more than a second or two it's like slamming the brakes on the underpowered plane which has a top speed only slightly faster than a 777.

Here are some pics of the flight deck and other wreckage with shrapnel/shelling evidence...

angel_of_joy's picture

Maybe it was a Su-27. Why is everybody talking all this nonsese about a Su-25 jet, which is a TACTICAL GROUND ATTACK aircraft to start with ??

0b1knob's picture

< All in all, Russia's just another BRIC in the wall.

< Which one's Pink?

SofaPapa's picture


Just a comment on your thread about the Russian photos being poor quality.  If I were Russian intelligence, I would make sure that any photos were dropped significantly in resolution before release.  Letting the enemy know your capabilities is one of the big things all countries like to avoid.  Even if the photos are real (regarding which I have no informed opinion) they would still be released at poor resolution.  SOP.

rainingFrogs's picture

ding ding ding ... we have a winner. MH17 was downed by machine gun fire from a Ukraine fighter aircraft.

exhibit #1: cockpit damage is likely from anti-tank shells fired from an aircraft

exhibit #2: CBC (Canada) interview with 1st OSCE monitor on MH17 crash site.  goto 6:12 in the video, where he says - "fuselage pockmarked w what looks like very strong machine gun fire."  He also says there were no signs a missile struck the aircraft.

exhibit#3: Chief of the Russian Land Forces' tactical air defense troops Maj. Gen. Mikhail Krush says the damage does not match the profile of BUK missile.  Also, while multiple eyewitnesses saw Ukraine fighter aircraft approaching MH17, there is no eyewitness that saw what would have been the blindingly obvious smoke trail of a BUK missile.  In daylight this trail can be clearly seen within a radius of 20-25 kilometers from the missile system. It cannot remain unnoticed.

The downing of MH17 is a false flag executed by Ukraine, and the US must be complicit.  It was also murder.  Where are the real satellite images from a US satellite that was over the area at exactly the time the aircraft was downed?  Where is the flight data from the black boxes?  Where are the communications between the control tower and the aircraft?

TahoeBilly2012's picture

Maybe they thought it Putin's plane.

strannick's picture

Putin has shown the patience of a saint not to go all Defcon 10 on these lying mofos

Parrotile's picture

According to the nowadays very believable Russian mass media, the Russian people are getting a little fed up with the West's rhetoric, and the pressure on Putin to "teach the West a very hard lesson" is building rapidly.

It is of note that whilst the Western MSM regards Putin as a "Hardline Nationalist", many influential Russians (i.e. Military Brass) regard him as being far too soft. There have been many well-documented reports of assassination attempts by Chechen jihadists as far back as 2007 (and we all know who funded THAT little adventure don't we). If the West is still keen on "replacement", maybe the Western "Intelligence" agencies may wish to consider that his replacement WILL point the finger at the West, and he / she WILL be a far more hardline President than Putin.

This year is the 100th aniversary of The Great War. Let's not have another Crown Prince Ferdinand moment, caused by the same old "Special Interests", 'cause with today's military hardware, WW3 really WILL be a Global conflict, and one that we will NOT survive as a species.

The Black Bishop's picture

We might be aproaching a "lets close those gas-line valves a while"...winter is coming... How bad does the EU -really- want to fight WW3 for the US?


It's strange about the whole 100 year aniversary thing. I have had a bad feeling about this year for a long time. Even if it all stays conventional, WW3 will be an exceptional bloodbath.

Againstthelie's picture

When at the begginning of the year the crisis in Ukraine escalated, I predicted exactly that.

Putin is Hitler - but not in the sense of the disinformed Zio-sheeple: When Hitler came to power, the relations of the Weimar republic with Poland were disastrous, because of the robbed land (robbed by the great "Democracies").

It was Hitler's goverment that improved the relations with Poland and it was Hitler, who reduced the German position to a minimalistic status, by only demanding a corridor for cars and train to Danzig. "No other politician in Germany could dare to suggest that."

The relations between Germany and Poland improved dramatically - a fact the tupid goyim today have no clue about - and Germany and Poland were close to an agreement.

And then this happened:

Britain, high grade freemason and alcoholics Churchill in the leading role for the hidden forces in the City and New York, quickly offered the awful unconditional support treaty. This treaty worked as "brilliantly" as intended: the sane Polish forces in Poland were put checkmate and the chauvinists, dreaming of Berlin as part Poland, were put in charge. From then on all German offers (and there were a lot!) were rejected and Germany was ridiculed as being weak.

Polish newspapers even published maps of Poland reaching beyond Berlin and the terror against Germans in the occupied territories was increased.

Hitler was put under extreme pressure in Germany, for not protecting the Germans according to international law. Hitler delayed the attack on Poland several times, even although Poland was already put into state of generally mobilization, according to  international law a casus belli, while the Wehrmacht pressured Hitler not to wait any longer.

The German suggestions were ignored anyway.

When German farmers and families once again were killed on their fields and the final German suggestion to avoid war was not even ignored, Hitler finally decided to protect the Germans under Polish rulership - and he did, what the Plutocrats have tried to achieve for years...


Putin's situation is very similar. In the Jewish media he is portrayed as aggressive, while the real aggression is committed from the ZOGs - and all they want, is that Putin resonds in a way, that they finally get the war they obviously want.


The current situation is an excellent example, how poisionos and dangerous historic lies are, because what is going on today, cannot be understood by people, who do not know the true history behind WW2. The perspective who is the aggressor and who is the victim is turned upside down. And the continued injustice against Russia (sanctions from the aggressors against the victim - like the situation of Germany from 1933 on) one day can only lead to an explosion:

Either a puppet regime in Russia is installed after a coup, or a big and powerful and proud nation like the Russians one day will be provoked enough, and will begin to fight back.

And if Putin is clever enough not to fall into their traps, it could be, that within Russia the voices become so loud, that he finally has not other choice.

Judging from an objective point of view, how more hostile can an act be, than to fake satellite photos and cover up the homicide of hundreds of people and blame it on another nation? Russia and Putin are de-escalating in an extreme manner and if they would act the same way as the ZOG-warmongers do, Russia would have called the MH17-false flag operation a casus belli and a declaration of war against Russia long ago.

The only reason why this has not happened is because Russia knows, that's the intention of the Jew: get Russia out of Europe - that's the only way, how Zion can manage that the City of London and New York stay in control of Europe, because if the axis Paris-Berlin-Moscow can develop as would be the NATURAL development of Europe, then their centers of world domination would be OUT.

All Risk No Reward's picture

"The Jew" doesn't not exist - no matter how many times you repeat it.

INDIVIDUALS exists, NOT  groups.  Implicating Jewish plumbers in the very real Debt Money / Banking conspiracy is to harm the freedom movement more than help it.

Your choice.

conscious being's picture

In Judo, the opponent's aggression is used to throw same to the floor ... hard.  Then its easy to stomp on him for a while.

giovanni_f's picture

+1. There is almost complete silence on this "topic" already. My hope is, it will disastrously backfire to all those forefront  media outlets deployed to prepare and ultimately wage a war against Russia such as the German SPIEGEL with its unbearably primitive Stürmer-like rethoric ("stop Putin now").

The western propaganda machine, however, won't stop in its thirst for war. They live of it.

P.S. Spiegel was the first magazine in Germany to be granted a news magazine licence after WWII from the American victors. Any wonder it behaves so loyal to its overlords?

TheReplacement's picture

It doesn't matter your experience or what either missile damage would look like.  There should be pieces of the missile embedded within the wreckage and it should all be recoverable.  Find the bits.  Find the serial numbers.  Track the serial numbers.  Determine who's inventory the missile came from (regardless of type).

It is very simple even if it is hard to do.

Againstthelie's picture

At least the Russian can interpret and read what they got, contrary to USrael.

And what are hires-photos good for, if the honest will to interpret them is missing or the government is following an alien and hidden agenda, Shlomo?

TheReplacement's picture

Yeah didn't you see the sat images released that showed the launch, track, and impact of the missile?  US milsats are the bestest.

Anusocracy's picture

I know this is hard for stupid people to understand but you always lowball the quality of your surveillance.

InvalidID's picture


 Wow, feeling a little defensive about Russian spy tech? Again, Google Earth takes better pictures.

Aussie V's picture

Do you know the real reason why the Russian product always looks 2nd rate?

All computers the Russian's use are flat out displaying 72dpi on their screens. Both Apple and MS have conspired to ensure their computers being exported to RUssia all lack in genuine DPI per IPD so, over time, Russians eyes become medically myopic.

The technical term is Numonnalucramicroscopic SilliKobo Konnoeisis. (Spelling?) But it is a term that comes from the 60's spy culture determining DPI per IPD.

That's why the Russian product always looks 2nd rate.

angel_of_joy's picture

That's one of the most idiotic posts I ever seen on ZH (and I've seen a few...). But then, you live in an upside down world, so not much can be expected from you anyway...

Parrotile's picture

The West always liked to pretend that Western silicon fab. was "superior" to Russian  (well, thay "must" have known seeing how many $$$s were spent by the CIA, etc on covert operations to keep an eye on "useful" Russian developments). Similarly, the West still spreads the lie that Chinese manufacture "is Chinese crap".

I suppose neither the Russians or Chinese are intelligent enough to work out how to improve on the Technology the West has installed in their "cheap but skilled" labour economies, and therefore they will "always be producing an inferior product to Western technology".

They sell stuff cheap 'cause they manufacture said stuff cheaply. That is what the West wants, and happily PAYS for - cheap Walmart-level rubbish that guarantees a rapid replacement cycle (for which Apple is surely an outstanding example).

Helps to create the mindset of an "inferior product / technology" that the West finds comforting.

If ANYONE on ZH still believes the technology / silicon that Russia and China use in their military hardware bears any resemblance to the stuff they peddle to the West, "I have a number of bridges to sell you - all in excellent repair" . . . . . .

JohninMK's picture

The Russians (and Chinese) are up with the best in the West in hardware and software. They have huge reserves of highly educated people.

Millions in the West rely on for their Internet protection. Hundreds, if not thousands of NSA/CIA etc staff are employed solely to try to minimise Chinese hackers penetration and damage. Russia is now clamping down on new use of Windows.

As to hardware, OK they will still use UK designs in the core but then just about everyone in the world who is not x86/Intel based does. This came out in June.

Russia's Industry and Trade Ministry plans to replace U.S. microchips (Intel and AMD), used in government's computers, with domestically-produced micro Baikal processors in a project worth dozens of millions of dollars, business daily Kommersant reported Thursday. The article is fairly thin, but does add a bit more detail: "The Baikal micro processor will be designed by a unit of T-Platforms, a producer of supercomputers, next year, with support from state defense conglomerate Rostec and co-financing by state-run technological giant Rosnano. The first products will be Baikal M and M/S chips, designed on the basis of 64-bit nucleus Cortex A-57 made by UK company ARM, with frequency of 2 gigahertz for personal computers and micro servers."

If this approach gets legs and becomes a Russian/Chinese/India (BRICS) operation, were I to be an Intel/AMD/Microsoft shareholder I would be a bit worried.

A growing part of the sanctions dividend.

BlindMonkey's picture

"a second you have to admit the Russians are taking shit pictures..."

There was another site that did a deconstruction. The pic released by RF were blurred by the Ukies/DC. The original was much clearer.

Reptil's picture

standard operating procedure (tape air traffic control mechanism and procedure)

SATORI: Situation Assessment through the Re-creation of Incidents:

Quinvarius's picture

Because people looking at the wreckage are saying it is riddled with 30mm cannon holes.

ZerOhead's picture


I've been staring at those holes for hours and still can't make heads or tails of them. Some on the exterior side of the aircraft skin indicate a bullet or shrapnel exiting and yet the corresponding interior holes are indicative a a clean bullet entering.

Could be from alternating explosive shells peeling back the skin or ball fragments from a missile warhead.

If it's a mssile it was a small one since the wing tip damage indicates the blast damage to the cockpit was very close. As well as the burn penetrations.

Anusocracy's picture

Australia used to have signs shot up like that in the outback.

The work of drunken locals.

ZerOhead's picture

So it was the Australians that did it....

BlindMonkey's picture

At this point it is as plausible as the RF having shot it down directly. (Meaning none for you pedantic trolls out there)

silvermail's picture

I'm not surprised at how the whole world loves America.

813kml's picture

I hope the US remembers to edit out "Danger Zone" playing in the background of its "evidence".

Winston Churchill's picture

Disparaging turds is not really any  good.Uncle Scam could never compare to them in honesty.

A turd doesn't con you,doesn't hide its smell , and is just is a turd,also easily disposed of.

We need a new yardstick.

what&#039;s that smell's picture

could somebody explain this weird obsession with missiles?

is it phallic?

is it some weird feminist fear monger hatred of the missile?

hamas and putin got missile.....what?

bad guy shoot missile sneaky? 

are we being mindfucked into a new false flag?

"amurka sneak attacked by iranian north korean hamas putin missile; manhatten in flames"

skank's picture

"Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right." - Hillary Clinton

Da Yooper's picture

Yea & what that wack job thinks is usually WRONG