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ISIS Captures Iraq's Biggest Dam: Baghdad Water Supply In Jeopardy
With the world's attention focused on the ongoing death and destruction in Gaza most have forgotten that just two months ago a vicious Al-Qaeda spinoff, after taking over the north of Iraq and a third of Syria's territory including its oil production facilities, proclaimed the creation of an Islamic State caliphate a few hundred kilometers north of Baghdad. The reason why the ISIS story fell off the front pages is that while the jihadists were consolidating their power in the caliphate region, it was believed that they have no chance of advancing onto Baghdad and the energy-rich Iraq regions south of Baghdad (and thus have little impact on the price of Brent). And yet there was one major "weakest link" - recall that a month ago we reported that "Baghdad May Lose Its Drinking Water As ISIS Approaches Dam", an outcome which would put Iraq's capital, and its 8 million residents, at the mercy of ISIS.
According to Al Arabia it is this "weakest link" that is now in play after ISIS took over Iraq's biggest dam unopposed by Kurdish fighters, who also lost three towns and an oilfield on Sunday to the Sunni militant group, witnesses said cited by Reuters.
Iraqi security officials said Wednesday that fighters for the
Islamic State in Iraq and Syria were advancing on the Haditha Dam, the
second-largest in Iraq.
Islamic State fighters seized control of Iraq's biggest dam, an oilfield and two more towns on Sunday after inflicting their first major defeat on Kurdish forces since sweeping through the region in June
Local officials said militants with the extremist group Islamic State took control of the towns of Zumar and Sinjar near the city of Mosul on Sunday, waging fierce clashes with Kurdish forces.
The French news agency AFP quoted a United Nations spokesman saying 200,000 people have fled Sinjar and said there are grave concerns for their safety.
It gets worse: control of the dam could give ISIS, which has threatened to march on Baghdad, the ability to flood major cities. This in turn will merely serve to further facilitate the expansion of ISIS as it approaches Baghdad from the north...
Meanwhile, ISIS also seized two small towns in northern Iraq after driving out Kurdish security forces, officials and residents said, according to the Associated Press.
The fresh gains by the Sunni extremist militants have forced dozens of residents to flee from the religiously mixed towns of Zumar and Sinjar, near the militant-held city of Mosul, to the northern self-ruled Kurdish region.
Earlier on Sunday, ISIS militants have successfully captured an oil field close to the Iraqi town of Zumar after fighting with Kurdish forces who had control of the area.
ISIS, which had a lightning advance through northern Iraq in June, warned residents in nearby villages along the border with Syria to leave their homes, suggesting they were planning an assault, witnesses said. ISIS fighters killed 16 Kurdish troops in attacks in northern Iraq, while 30 pro-government forces died battling the jihadists on other frontlines, officials said Saturday.
Zumar is a small Kurdish-majority outpost northwest of Mosul, which used to be under federal government control but was taken over by the Peshmerga in June.
In other attacks on Saturday, five would-be volunteer fighters were killed and 16 wounded in a suicide car bomb attack on a Shiite militia recruitment center in the town of Balad, north of Baghdad, police said.
... and from the south.
In equally intense overnight fighting on the main front south of Baghdad, at least 23 pro-government forces were killed by relentless mortar shelling of their positions in Jurf al-Sakhr.
ISIS militants began attacking the town late Friday, killing 11 soldiers and 12 members of the Asaib Ahl al-Haq militia, an officer and army medic said.
Another seven soldiers were wounded during a subsequent government operation against jihadist fighters in Jurf al-Sakhr, Al-Hamya and Latifiya, the sources said, claiming 37 IS fighters were killed.
Using the western city of Fallujah as a rear base, jihadists have repeatedly attacked Jurf al-Sakhr, where pro-government forces are keen to prevent a foray that would expose the nearby holy Shiite city of Karbala and further encircle Baghdad by cutting the main road to the south.
And if Baghdad does indeed fall, all those recent Crude shorts will be less than happy.
Finally, here is a visual summary of all the most recent clashes as ISIS approaches Baghdad, courtesy of the ISW:
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isis? the cia, mosad and bankers now control the water.
no?
But Barry drew a Red Line...
and china has mysterious red water.
"They've poisoned the watering hole!"
Woody
I would expect them to blow up the damn as part of their return-to-stone-age mantra.
Probably more along the lines of taking the high ground, driving the evacuees to low grund, then blowing the dam and flushing ... as it were.
Regards,
Cooter
Hasn't that be referred to as "the most dangerous dam in the world?" Its packed earth construction which could be breached by a relatively small charge.
Casualties in Baghdad could be in the millions. And the dam could collapse on its own without continuous injections of grout.
Mosul Dam is the dangerous one.
"""Seven years ago, a report by the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, a Pentagon watchdog, highlighted structural problems at the dam, and its warnings about safety hinted at the catastrophic possibilities should the dam fall into the hands of ISIS. The report warned that a failure at the dam could send a 65-foot wave across parts of northern Iraq. “The worst-case scenario would be a significant loss of life and property,” the report said.""
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/04/world/middleeast/iraq.html?_r=0
""""Seven years ago, a report by the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, a Pentagon watchdog, highlighted structural problems at the dam, and its warnings about safety hinted at the catastrophic possibilities should the dam fall into the hands of ISIS."
So you're saying the Pentagon planned ISIS seven years ago?
The Pentagon trained and financed ISIS. I don't understand the game being played here, I don't think anybody does.
The Fed controls the price of oil....and stocks, and interest rates, and gold and silver and wages and commodities and the quality of my life, children, and retirement...
FUCK THE FED
WAY TO GO... Again, GWB...
>>WMD's, WMD's, WMD's, WMD's, We Gatta Get SADDAM That Fiend!!!<<
Whatever Happens Now With Iraq, You OWN IT 100%...
Just another case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.
Garmin just sent me an email. They say there are now updated world maps available for eastern Europe and the Middle East.
2015 News headline: " Obama to reluctantly order troops back into Iraq "
Maybe the navy or marines?
Where can I get some dam bait?
You bet. There's no way ISIS could have advanced with such speed if their DC sponsors did not want it so. They are stupid Western pawns.
It's not the Pentagon. It's the CIA. Not the same thing.
Look over there while they bend us over andd let michell obama take over
ISIL to take on Assad, Iran?
The game is to let ISIS get so mean and powerful and EVIL (watch the freakin videos) that the people demand their utter eradication using total war.
Then the military gets told to wipe them off with ZERO leashes on the ROE using more powerful weapons.
The US flips and shows a few of its high cards (stuff more lethal than a nuke) while wiping out a manufactured threat and makes it a nice warning to the Chinese and Russians to play nice OR ELSE.
Oh and Greater Israel cleans up in the aftermath.
Fuck I should have been a made-for-TV script writer.
It's the NY Times. They would know.
If they do the dam I hope they don't let the crisis go to waste. I mean 65 ft waves? They could host the first Iraqi Desert Giant Wave Surfing Classic, man. It would be awesome. Like totally dudes, bitchez, whatever.
Hmm I expect the Jews to show up and part the water and stake claims to the land across the waves, some little clause in their book that they own it.
If you'd read the book, that land goes to the children of Abraham, which includes the Arabs. The promised land is defined later.
So, no, despite your trolling nonsense the Jews won't show up to claim it.
Which book?
No, he's not saying the Pentagon planned ISIS seven years ago, fer crissakes.
I know reading comprehension hasn't been required for participation in ZH discussions for a very long time; but let's try.
The OP's comment said that, seven years ago, the report "highlighted structural problems at the dam", and gave "warnings about safety". It didn't say that the report warned about the possibility of the dam falling into the hands of ISIS, since ISIS didn't exist when the report was written; only that there were problems with the dam.
Today, however, we can read the report's warnings about safety, combine those with the news of the advance of ISIS, and speculate about "catastrophic possibilities".
Is that any clearer?
They will soon turn the lake red with dead bodies no doubt. No matter who sponsors them and I have my doubts, these are some barbaric "folks" we have here.
That would be because they are sponsored by the CIA and Pentagon
Total crap COSMOS. You and lucky star are one and the same aren't you?
And you have proof of this, of course.
That water should flow to the Jews, eh?
ya creep.
Of course you would.
I doubt that they will. This is the formation of a new empire happening here. Such massive damage would only reduce their control.
The threat will be there. But then again, all the propagandists on the other side of the fence want that threat to be touted.
Some how, The Monkeys sketch from the Kids In The Hall seems relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfv6u4An8hU
Nothing about ISIS is "return to stone age".
They are Salafi extremists. Pure and simple. They believe that Islam has been corrupted from the original message and the first generations are the ones to emulate. They are not "new" by any stretch of the imagination, they have been around for a good long time, but in the past they were content with just spreading the message and keeping to themselves. This is the same basic ideaology as AQ and others like them. They hate the hell out of shirk, and ironically they are basically modern day Ebionite extremists. The original message has been warped and twisted into something that is not islam and they seek to rectify it. Shrines are just idols to them. If old graves stayed old graves and people would come to pay respects, that would be fine. But they are literally worshipped and for that reason they have to go. Dams? No reason to blow a dam, they are not insane.
What prompted all of this is the fact that the ME has been sliced up and handed to regimes which claim to be muslim but are not. They see that real islam is in danger and seek to rectify the situation.
It's a good old religious war going on to determine the future of islam in the region. Either it will go back to basics and stabilize, or it will be purged of the old ways of thinking and continue to evolve. Kinda how the early christians murdered the shit out of the gnostics and everyone in the Jamesonian branches when they discovered that their own Pauline branch was just pure bullshit.
laomei, the Gnostics and the Jamesonians were just heretics. can't let heretics live, can you?
now seriously, I agree with your view, they don't need to blow up dams. yet they do like to blow up heretic mosques
the real danger is that they start to blow up useful stuff if they feel they get vanquished soon, in the same way as the retreating Iraqi army did with Kuwaiti oil wells
yep, that's the real danger... scorched earth if they start to lose and that's a strategy which transcends religion since basically forever.
The mosques they are blowing up tend to be ones built around tombs and islam is actually incredibly specific about that shit. If there is a mosque which has had a tomb added to it, they just remove the tomb.
Same shit happened in Afghanistan with the buddhas. They were in need of conservation, international agencies wanted to put up money for them. The Taliban called it bullshit and said that if they wanted to help with anything they had to actually help the people. Agencies tried to work some deal where they would "buy" the sites and then the Taliban could use the money for X, Y and Z purposes. Taliban called the bullshit for what it was... sanctions causing starvation, and here's a group of foreigners who don't care enough to use this money to help the people, but instead want to save some pagan relics. In Salafi logic, that constitutes shirk. In this vein, they are VERY similar to the Ebionites who believed that churches should be torn down, everything of value sold and given to the poor, the wood used to build homes for the poor and the scrap burned to provide warmth to the poor.
As for me, i don't really give a shit about any of it. The Talmud is a collection of jewish fairy tales dreamed up by a wandering underclass of criminals. Christianity which was basically just a guy trying to rectify the bullshit was perverted early on and ruined. Islam, that shit is not "divine" or "inspired" or any of that crap. It's a guy who got influenced by OG christians, ripped it off for 2 years, then proceeded to make shit up as he went along for his own benefit. All of it is garbage... fucking desert-living shitheels.
But, but... ISIS just "came out of nowhere" and "caught us by surprise", well armed and driving brand new -- and matching -- white Toyotas.
This is to Plan, to fracture Iraq and Syria into sectarian pieces.
Mossad, CIA with House of Saud, that's my bet.
Calling Pat Tillman. Pat Tillman, please report from the other side.
""Mossad, CIA with House of Saud, that's my bet.""
I Doubt It, Not Enough Brain Power...
This Is Now Gone Beyond Extreme, Spinning OUT OF CONTROL.
EBOLA May Be The HEadlines, But This
Could Be The Next Archduke Franz Ferdinand "Event"...
Fracturing any and all resource rich countries into sectarian pieces is what Ms. VICTORIA NULAND and our demented, fascist, 'foreign policy' is all about.
the Manson strategy
Gladio Plan B
Now I understand why they said they never found the WMDs. They were looking for the wrong things.
It was Water of Mass Destruction.
See they didn' lie after all.
Or perhaps there's a secret weapons lab under the water, behind the dam (like in X-Men II)
Iraq, as it has been known, is no more. Time to admit that and start redrawing lines.
the times they are a changing.
Most of the problems we see are from people drawing lines. Who owns this land ... you gotta be kidding me. I believe that was an aboriginal non-concept.
And Israel has not peeped that they threaten their security and nothing is done.
THEY ARE ZIONIST PAID MERCENARIES.
I don't think so: yes, they're likely messing around like they always do, but this is WAY beyond them. I believe what we're seeing is the birth of a new empire.
How does an "abbronzato" know, where red lines are?
Barry is a big pussy and I wish he would just get fucked!
Is that you reggie?
I marked you up because that is kinda funny, but the rumor mill has it that Barry likes old white guys to suck his cock, and swallow, and he does not return the favor, he zips up and leaves. Supposedly this is the action in the Chicago bathhouse culture. Everyone likes the story that if Obama is gay he is a bottom or a switch hitter, it is a story easier to, er, swallow. Malcom X toped white guys as a prostitute before he took the name Malcom X. Used to deficate on glass tables over white guys faces beneath and get paid. He wrote this in his book on his life.
How does it change anything if Obama tops white guys? It could all be a lie to defame Obama, of course. But the Chicago stories are specific, old white guys blow him and some even paid him for it.
I acknowldege this is a worthless derailment of the conversation. But still...if we're gonna play this game, let's play it full force with all of the story on the, heh, table...
Unbelievable. The easiest thing in the world is to hold is an asset like a dam. A few mortars, mines, gun emplacements, and barbed wire and you can hold off an army for months ... let alone a few rag-tag rebels like ISIS. Clearly the morale and intelligence of the defenders was zero.
easiest thing in the world? wtf does that even mean?
PhD Physics. Ivy league. Many high-tech startups. Many years in academics. : you're just dripping douchebaggery....
After all, a few rebels kept the entire might of the U.S. Army out of Fallujah for months.
The dam gets circled and the workers are stuck, with the emphasis on them not seeing their family and friends again. Sometimes you're just outnumbered and pretending that you can fight your way out (or save something- like who is going to come to their aid, especially given that Christopher Hitchens is dead? [and the US has been proven not to respond to requests for help by/from the Kurds]).
Mission Accomplished?
What proof or, by lack of it, indications do you have for that allegation ?
Thanks
question, material support of all kinds including
training, education, supplies military and otherwise
for this "entity" or psychological meme called
"isis", from where does it come? recruitment,
from where?
intelligence to proceed, from where does it come?
.
oh my goodness, can this be so?
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ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi Trained by Israeli Mossad, NSA Documents Reveal
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by...
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"The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).
Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called “the hornet’s nest”." .....
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proof? i don't know about proof but what do you think
the intelligence agencies do with all their money and
infrastructure? watch porn or take over the world?
pick one.
thanks for the link.
I do find www.globalresearch.ca a very questionable source after having read a few articles there in the past.
They quote as a source Gulf Daily News, unknown to me. The actual Snowden documents they talk about are not shown. Note this is an article with 5 sentences.
I find this hornet's nest strategy of attracting all extremists of the world to one place ridiculous.
"According to documents released by Snowden, “The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state “is to create an enemy near its borders”." ( How does that work ? )
Not really convinced.
there is no link to the source of the snowden revelation,
agreed and also observed.
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read on down the thread.
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the Snowden ISIS story was a hoax,
planted by ...?
http://aboriginalpress.wordpress.com/2014/07/29/de-manufacturing-consent...
a working "true" hoax, sounds fractally and holographically
familiar. coincidentally, that is what the fed
does for a living, among many others ......
Globalresearch was merely copying a news article
The link to the article was supplied
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=381153
http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=isis
ISIS “Made in USA”. Iraq “Geopolitical Arsonists” Seek to Burn Region
By Tony Cartalucci
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-made-in-usa-iraq-geopolitical-arsonist...
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"When a fire is raging, firefighters are called – not the arsonist who started it, especially if they return to the scene of the crime dragging a barrel of gasoline behind them. Yet, this is precisely what the US proposes – that they – the geopolitical arsonists – be allowed to return to Iraq to extinguish the threat of heavily armed sectarian militants streaming from NATO territory in Turkey and edging ever closer to Baghdad.
ISIS: Made in USA
The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is a creation of the United States and its Persian Gulf allies, namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and recently added to the list, Kuwait. The Daily Beast in an article titled, “America’s Allies Are Funding ISIS,” states:
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), now threatening Baghdad, was funded for years by wealthy donors in Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, three U.S. allies that have dual agendas in the war on terror.
Despite the candor of the opening sentence, the article would unravel into a myriad of lies laid to obfuscate America’s role in the creation of ISIS. The article would claim:
The extremist group that is threatening the existence of the Iraqi state was built and grown for years with the help of elite donors from American supposed allies in the Persian Gulf region. There, the threat of Iran, Assad, and the Sunni-Shiite sectarian war trumps the U.S. goal of stability and moderation in the region.
However, the US goal in the region was never “stability” and surely not “moderation.” As early as 2007, sources within the Pentagon and across the US intelligence community revealed a conspiracy to drown the Middle East in sectarian war, and to do so by arming and funding extremist groups including the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda itself. Published in 2007 – a full 4 years before the 2011 “Arab Spring” would begin – Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh’s New Yorker article titled, “”The Redirection: Is the Administration’s new policy benefiting our enemies in the war on terrorism?” stated specifically (emphasis added):
To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.
The 9 page, extensive report has since been vindicated many times over with revelations of US, NATO, and Persian Gulf complicity in raising armies of extremists within Libya and along Syria’s borders. ISIS itself, which is claimed to occupy a region stretching from northeastern Syria and across northern and western Iraq, has operated all along Turkey’s border with Syria, “coincidentally” where the US CIA has conducted years of “monitoring” and arming of “moderate” groups.
In fact, the US admits it has armed, funded, and equipped “moderates” to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. In a March 2013 Telegraph article titled, “US and Europe in ‘major airlift of arms to Syrian rebels through Zagreb’,” it was reported that a single program included 3,000 tons of weapons sent in 75 planeloads paid for by Saudi Arabia at the bidding of the United States. The New York Times in its article, “Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With C.I.A. Aid,” admits that the CIA assisted Arab governments and Turkey with military aid to terrorists fighting in Syria constituting hundreds of airlifts landing in both Jordan and Turkey." ....t.c.
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for starters ....
His wife has a bulg in her dress so he must be a lady huh.lmao
ISIS = Israel Al-Qaeda = CIA
Bwwwahahhhaha. Why would the Israelites would have blown up Jonah's tomb?
Your Khazars calling the shots don't care about no Jonah.
Dumb comment and Dumber response.
ISIS does seem too tactically and strategically savvy for a collection of religious, ultra-conservative fruitcakes.
Totally agree. These international jihadists are being advised by folks up the ladder.
Bill Clinton asked what the difinition of IS is.
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Your ful of shit! Why do you come here to rip of the bloggers
Be kind, it took him 2 years worth of 12 hours a week to get that $9,500 paycheck for posting these dumb ads. Don't you get it? He does it from prison.
Why pay attention to Iraq and the world falling apart when we can get lost in yet another naked reality show: http://tinyurl.com/nvqvonc
@ blindman,
"isis? the cia, mosad and bankers now control the water.
no?"
The Criminals are securing infrastructure & Natural Resouces. The raping & pillaging will continue until these Pure Evil forces are destroyed & literally burned to ashes.
sounds like qe to me, man.
ISIS, Mujahedeen Version 3.0.
Like the plutocrats financed WWII, they are now financing WWIII, all for their global banking cartel dreams of completel financial hegemony.
ISIS will eventually spread to Turkey and several other countries, and sometime within the next eight years, probably, missiles will stream across the Mediterranean between North Africa and Europe, around 2020 --- 2022?
First they funded the Mujahedeen which gave forth the Taliban and al Qaeda, and now ISIS.
To destroy the influence of Iran and Syria, which still haven't signed onto the WTO's Financial Services Agreement (especially that pesky Fifth Protocol).
This is such a complete crockl
This is nothing new:
The Roman Empire realized that they didn't have enough soldiers of their own to fight battles on every front. So at first, they offered those conquered ones three options:
1- become a soldier
2- become a slave
3- be executed
In time, however, the Roman Empire offered their strongest rivals (Goths, Visigoths, Vandals, Franks) to be paid mercenaries, to be paid to fight Rome’s enemies. In return, not only were these tribes paid, but they were trained by Rome in the best battle strategy and tactics, and they were given the best weapons and armor by Rome. Eventually, this backfired on Rome when Rome was sacked once, twice, thrice, and finally dealt it's death blow on the fourth sacking of Rome by the Visigoths in 410 AD.
Do you see what parallels this has to the US and NATO doing the same with Muslim tribes? First, in WWI it was Lawrence of Arabia (a Brit, on behalf of Great Britain and it's allies) who unified the Arab tribes and trained and armed them, and they overthrew the Ottoman Empire.
Then, in WWII, they used these same Muslim Arab forces along with Turkey (fallen Ottomans) to defeat Germany in North Africa.
Now, they've created the Al Queda "freedom fighters" that they then conveniently blamed 9/11 on.
Now that the US/CIA/Israel/Mossad/Saudi Arabia, etc has been exposed as training, arming and funding Al Queda, they've abandoned them and created ISIS.
Just like the Roman Empire, so it shall be for the US,- the mercenary tribes they trained, armed and funded will shortly turn against their handlers, and along with other disaffected nations, band together to defeat the US Empire.
"Deliver to me all the gold that your city contains, all the silver, all the treasures that may be moved, and in addition all your slaves of barbarian origin; otherwise I desist not from the siege."
Indeed, Alaric!
Alaric I and his Visigoths were the final nail in the coffin of the Roman Empire. The final nail in the coffin of the US will be a similar alliance of disaffected tribes and nations, all of which are gearing up for the battle.
As the US teaches it's future adversaries everything they need to know about strategies and tactics, and the weaknesses of NATO.
Meanwhile, the US continues to gut it's military of the battle hardened, experienced leaders:
http://www.stripes.com/news/army/army-to-force-out-550-majors-some-in-af...
Iraq the other Jewish homeland -Babylon
Urkraine the other Jewish homeland
Gaza the other Jewish homeland
Syria part of greater Israel.
see a pattern.
Only if you're a Jew hating irrational.
Borrrring
"holy Shiite"
Well, Dick and his boys certainly got their money's worth after spending $3-4 trillion of our tax dollars...Sheer geniuses, the entire bunch...
Want to laugh, but mostly just ill about it all.
Yeah, they got THEIR money's worth. And they got a LOT of our money too.
Cheney's Zio-pals did very well too. As Nutty-yoohoo said after 9/11: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)".
And it also generated billions of $$$ for Nutty and his murderous pals (at our expense) too.
And Cheney's oil oligarch pals didn't have to worry about Saddam flooding the world markets with cheap oil and driving down the price of gasoline either. Thanks to Cheney's supreme court pals, he didn't have too much publicity either. Win-win-win, (unless you're a taxpayer, gasoline buyer or are one of the millions that got killed or maimed). Then it's lose-lose-lose.
They lie, they cheat, they steal and they kill. And the do it on a grand scale. What's not to like?
Haliburton in 2002: about $10. Now: about $70
Gilead in 2002: about $5. Now: about $90
So, yes, Dick and Rummy are smiling.
Thank God Noah built that ark.
Oh wait ... a suicide donkey blew it up.
And I am supposed to care why?
not caring is the short circuit to the zeropoint
where positive and negative values cancel out.
a good starting point, the only true starting
point and good for you i say. then, interesting things
happen ......
Nice! I grok you.
So the US lost the war in Afghanistan, made a mess of Lybia, and now lost the war in Iraq. What will it take to stop it from raising more mayhem?
Somebody (who isn't me) said that the USA trained, armed and funded ISIS. That these are the guys are the all-purpose Arab mercenaries that got their asses kicked out of Syria. That they used to be know as Al-Qaeda. That the Iraqis weren't playing ball and there was a threat that the USA might be pushed to the edges of MENA. So ISIS was used to attack the far more malleable Iraqis.
SWIM also believes that the moon landing was fake. FYI.
Do they think 9/11 was an inside job as well?
Correction
Israel and usa mic captures... Awww fuck it
Very nice that Obango squandered the lives of Americans that were lost securing Iraq with his stupid show of ending the war in Iraq that was already over.
edit
All it takes is one mulatto in the right place at the right time.
ALL the lives,
US, Iraqi, and "coalition" were squandered
because of a criminal military invasion and military occupation.
Both Obama and Bush share guilt.
Liybia too is on fire. The UK just announced last call at the dock in Tripoli for evacuation last night. Be there or be left behind. Airports are not an option.
California, Gaza, Bagdad, what do these places have in common ?
Sand?
Isis oh Isis you're a mystical child
What drives me to you is what drives me insane
I still can remember the way that you smiled
On the fifth day of May in the drizzling rain.
Maybe Dylan was thinking of a different Isis.
I guess the USA has got to fire those useless mercenaries. Those mercenaries can't even put up a decent fight against a few fanatics.
Huh? The ISIS mercenaries are the fanatics.
ISIS and Al-Qaeda have been in training and getting arms from US funded training camps in Turkey and Jordan for over 3 years. This was so they could conquer Syria for the NATO alliance and Israel. But now the US trained ISIS has gone full retard and after being defeated by Assads regular army, has turned into Iraq and captured vast stores of arms, all American. With these they returned to Syria and won battles for a large part of North Eastern Syria, thay have driven south and control most of North West and central Iraq.
Obama has done nothing, but he has promised 1.2 billion dollars in new arms for the so called anti Assad forces, again, these are Al-Qaeda troops, over 3,000 from Europe's NATO nations. ISIS also operates with these anti Assad forces. So Obama is STILL arming ISIS.
Can you think of a bigger shit pile than what Obama and the CIA have created? Oh, and look at Libya, the CIA liberated Al-Qaeda stronghold. They are now full retard with Al-Qaeda legions all over that nation.
This government in Washington has now funded and is about to arm the radical fascist west Ukrainian nazi movement. War has already torn Ukriane east apart, Obam want s this fate for all of Ukraine. Next stop Russia.
American's watch CNN and FOX and are told all is well. To be a patriot is to back the NSA, CIA and Obama and his Pentagon is all they do. Ukraine's civil war is a vital American national interest. Fascist Kiev is a bastion of freedom and liberty America owes them their support. IF you do not sign up to all this stuff, you are a threat to America, a non patriot.
Obama and Bush are and were the incarnation of evil.
Let's be honest - a few hours of Fox NS this morning, and I never heard anyone say "all is well". In fact, I heard a guest say "Why, as Sen. DiFi would have us believe, is the CIA spying on the senate 'bad', but spying on average Americans is 'good'?"
Let's give them a little credit.
They only get credit when the HOST asks that kind of question. No points for guests doing it.
Jack, i'm a fan but ' next stop Russia? '
More like last stop Russia AND Goodnight.
Yup. I fully expect that before this is over the US and Russia will be allied against the Saudis, israel. Isis and the EU in a battle for civilization. The US and Russia still point a way to freedom, not so much the other team.
What planet have you been visiting lately?
What the fuck?
ISIS may choose to blow up the dam.
strategically that would be the most effectual move they could make
Or worse, dump some of those chemical weapons they supposedly got hold of into the water supply
That fear mongering story was debunked.
Greater Israel now has their greater water supply.
Now Syria is a route for an oil AND water pipeline.
A fair few intelligent people were saying saying ISIS would never march on Baghdad, they lack the men, logistics/support and secure supply lines, firepower, and general siege capability ... and it wouldnt really bring them anything other than massive exposure to their die-hard Shiite enemies of the south and east (and Iran).
An even greater surge in terrorism in Baghdad would signal that ISIS is trying to soften it up before an assault, and I wonder for how many waterless days the Maliki government would last.
Things have deteriorated to the point that Americans will take any opportunity to take their eyes off what is happening, Iraq has become a train wreck and is rapidly morphing into a failed State. It is often unwise to take your eyes off a problem for long because when you look back you might find that things have gone horribly wrong, this is the case in Iraq and Syria.
The lyrics from a song "slip sliding away" come to mind as a way to describe the massive investment made in Iraq by America. Recently a group called ISIS shocked much of the world by swiftly capturing Mosul in an offensive that allowed the group to take control of major parts of northern and western Iraq. On June 29, 2014 the Islamist militants declared an Islamic "caliphate" in an area straddling Iraq and Syria. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/08/islamic-state-of-iraq-and-levant....
Advancing, you wrote "to the point that Americans will take any opportunity to take their eyes off what is happening,"
Take a deep breath, and let's come at this again.
What do you know about the quality and honesty of the information we're getting? What are you learning about it here?
SOMEBODY is takeing any opportunity to take OUR eyes off what is happening. And they are very very good at getting us to blame ourselves for that!
Exactly whywait, as it's been in the news over the past several years about America (and the Brits and French) training people at a training camp in Jordan.
Now these people are called ISIS.
ISLAM - Screwing Their Own People Over for 15 Centuries.
Just another oligarchy.
You need to look at the history of the past 150 years before pontificating about the identity of the screwers and the screwees.
another islamic appologist
joego1 and all,
The quality of one's thinking depends in part on the categories one thinks with. Animals and Plants will get you only so far. Carnivores and Herbavores, Cats and Other Predatros, Cheetahs and Bobcats, Male Cheetahs and Female Cheetahs, as we distinguish new categories we get more to think about, which lets us think about things we couldn't reason about before. Like what specifically to expect from a mature female cheetah in heat.
Moslems, Jews and "Normal People" is good enough for a "two guys in a bar" model of history I suppose. But if you're reading Zero Hedge, one would think that you wanted more than that.
It would be a shame to be wasting your time hanging out here without learning something useful about what to expect from some situation in the world. There's a lot of good tools to think with available on this site, if you can manage to slow yourself down enough to take them in.
And then practice using them to think with.
This Comment Section is a good place to practice thinking about certain kinds of thing. A really good place for that.
Talmudic Jooze, Screwing Everyone Else Over for 15 Centuries.
Zohar, Vayshlah 177b:
"That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.
That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general."
A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonoured.
You're just not in the spirit of modern day theism. You're only supposed to quote the good bits of the holy books.
I really do have to hand it to the christians, jews and muslims for vociferously defending their holy books. It'd be fascinating to peer into the mind of any of these people and try to understand what the hell it is going on in there. With the above excerpts (which I have not verified mind you) where's the jewish apologists now. The real problem is jews are fanatical, like muslims and they take this shit deadly serious.
Is ISIS the good AlCiada this week, or is that next week ?
Maybe we could all use ISO week numbers so no one gets confused at state dept. pressers.
I'm not sure if they are good or bad guys this week. Have to wait until the State Department issues a strongly worded #hashtag to find out.
Gee, Who never saw this coming?
Months Ago?
ISIS = CIA+ Mossad
I've haven't seen this being reported in MSM sites on the NET I wonder why...?
Since the MSM is owned and controlled by Zionist oligarchs, one could have suspicions concerning why this hasn't seen more publicity.
Jack B wrote. "Obama and Bush are and were the incarnation of evil."
Every President and Congressman is Evil to some degree, placed in power by PTBEvil, for the sole purpose of doing even more evil.
Cue in the camera shots of helicopters on the roof of the American Embassy, doing the Evacuation Shuffle.
Mission Accomplished, Assholes Of Government.
The sprint for the exits just happened in that other paragon of peace and democracy we created for the children in Lybia.
Those pictures are probably pre-war, pre-US invasion, back when Iraq was a fairly normal country.
So, I wonder if there's any water remaining behind the dam?
Wait - they're remaking "Chinatown"?
I looked over a good book by a US battlefield surgeon who was in Fallujah with the US Marines.
Pretty much breaks your heart all the guys getting shot to bits.For what? FOR NOTHING.....
Some politician sent them there (Bremer?) to take out the Shia Mahdi army.
SO NOW WE ARE SUPPORTING THE SHIAS TO KICK ASS ON THE SUNNIS?
The dead Marines are spinning in their graves.Not to mention their grieving families....
THIS IS WHAT WE SPENT $4 Trillion for? THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE 5000 ADVISERS IN BAGHDAD FOR?
At this point I say simply "Nuke Falluja." These fucks need a message from hell in the worst way.
Yeah well probably the best option to get rid of all those children there deformed and dying caused by the depleted uranium that was rained down upon their mothers before they were born. Little girls, little boys, simply put them down like dogs I say with the best USA nuke available for the job. [Sarc off, back to normal program]
It was a total failure, but our leaders like to put failure behind them and charge off in search of another one.
It was no failure, they achieved exactly what they set out to do. Same as every other war since WW1. The people that run America have won every war they have ever entered. Can't say as much for the real people that actually put their boots on and went out to fight. (Said with the utmost of respect to them)
Hey, noone held a gun to the head of these dumb fucks who signed up for the US army.They went willingly to have thermselves blown to bits. Real smart people.
The world will never know peace until men stop enlisting in armies. The human race is so far from this possibility as to having basically assured it's demise. What will it take, WHAT THE FUCK WILL IT TAKE before men of all nations, creeds and religions say enough is enough. Just contemplating it is riduclous, what an absurd notion. The US is stark example of how utterly fucked up the human race is. This country was a bastion of civilisation (hey, it's all relative). Had heaps of natural resources. Great weather. Opportunities for everyone (who wanted them). Education. Health care. Secure part of the world. Space program. Scientific world leader. Democracy. Yet fuck heads still signed up to fight wars in other countries. Not defend the US borders, not to defend US sovreignty. No, but to go fight banker funded wars in other countries.
There's no hope for humans when assholes with all the opportunity in the world, as good as it would have ever gotten for anyone in history, still feel the need to fight wars in other countries. It's all well and good to blame the oligarchs but all everyone has to do is say "FUCK IT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH" down their weapons and WALK THE FUCK AWAY. It's as if there simply is no free will and we are born biological automatons, gentically programmed at birth and without the ability to look at the world and actually change it. Not to mention the fact that the US is overrun with Jesus nuts and creationists yet I don't recall seeing them picketing the whitehouse and congress and demanding an end to the fucking wars. Of all the people that would have sway it'd ber the jesus nuts but they are too busy shooting abortion doctors for taking the life of a foetus while their congress rips to shreads the bodies of thousands of children in the ME. Jesus is not going to look on you people favourably when you've all sat idly by and watched all this shit go on. Bitter pill christians, very bitter pill.
May I suggest all you people in the States, max out your credit cards, go buy gold and silver, bury it, go get another credit card, max it out and buy gold and silver, bury it and keep doing this until the banks won't give you a card. Then declare bankruptcy. It won't take many people to bring this banking oligarchy down and stop these fucking wars. We are all a bunch of gutless, unthinking, selfish mother fuckers who collectively have absolute power, the withdrawal of consent, and can enact it immediately. Yet we all bitch and moan about the oligarchs as they pull the strings and we all dutifully aquiesce.