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Tennessee Doctor In Self-Quarantine On Return From Liberia Ebola Hotspot
A Tennessee doctor, working at the same Liberian clinic as Dr. Kent Brantly - the Ebola-infected American who was flown to Atlanta yesterday for treatment - has placed himself in quarantine as a "precaution for [his] family." As ABC reports, Alan Jamison, a retired pediatrician, returned home to Morristown, Tenn., after he was evacuated from Liberia by the aid group he was volunteering for, says he's "feeling well" and showing no sign of symptoms; and claims since landing in the US, he said he's had no physical contact with anyone. As Mark St.Cyr notes, the Ebola virus which has been separated from the U.S. populace by the fortune of geological positioning has not only arrived on our doorstep, but was flown in deliberately on its own personal G5. Many are asking questions of; why? But perhaps the more crucial question is 'what if?' The what if question was this: "What if they need to bring them back because they had no choice? What if the reason they need to get them into better facilities is for the worst of all reasons? i.e., It’s already here."
A Tennessee doctor who placed himself in quarantine after volunteering in West Africa, where the Ebola virus is rampant, says he's "feeling well" and showing no sign of symptoms.
Alan Jamison, a retired pediatrician, returned home to Morristown, Tenn., after he was evacuated from Liberia by the aid group he was volunteering for -- working at the same hospital as Dr. Kent Brantly, an American now fighting the deadly virus.
"I feel very comfortable and I'm looking forward to being able to be with my family again," Jamison told ABC News via Skype.
Since landing in the U.S., he said he's had no physical contact with anyone and has only been near his daughter, who picked him up from the airport. Jamison said he plans to hole up at home until the 21-day incubation period is completed.
"I'm out of the major risk period right [now]," he said. "The isolation that I'm going through right now is in excess of what the CDC suggested for the precaution for my family."
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Jamison isn't sure how Brantly, who is in isolation and expected to arrive in the U.S. next week, became infected with Ebola.
"He was very cognizant and careful with the hygiene precautions that he used," Jamison said. "I'm not sure how it occurred that he was exposed."
After this, perhaps Mark St.Cry's perspective on "What If?" with regard Ebola is more prescient that he imagined...
Often times we get caught up in the asking of why rather than asking what if. It sounds like such a subtle distinction and for some it’s an exercise not worth pursuing. However, it is sometimes this very innocuous line of questioning that is the only thing that gets at the root of many issues facing not only business in general, but sometimes rooting out the answers one doesn’t want to actually face – never mind deal with.
Personally I made many of my marks in business by being the person who more often than not had to pick up the pieces or control their trajectory as to where they may land ahead of time during my tenure in the business world. Today the professional moniker is “an expert in Crisis Management.”
Expert is not for vanity’s sake. If I had done it once that could be racked up to chance, twice could be coincidence, but three times and more and you’ve distinguished yourself with a track record.
Although I have always been somewhat of a contrarian, it was when a friend of mine years earlier asked me a rhetorical question during a crisis taking place where we lived that shaped much of my reasoning and understandings for years to come.
Earlier that day the city where we grew up experienced a power outage causing a city-wide black out that was still not resolved as we were talking later that afternoon.
The outage occurred during the mid morning. It wasn’t as if the streets or neighborhoods were cloaked in darkness. Yet, in less than 30 to 45 minutes after the outage started looters began smashing windows downtown and stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down.
It didn’t start with just one, it was a mob from all accounts that started the spree.
As we were discussing the reasons for “why” and more he made a statement that sticks with me to this day: “You keep asking why would they do this so quickly. The question you need to answer is, what if this is what they were waiting for?” That subtle change in questioning changes everything both in how you address the “why” and more.
Again it changes the thought process in how one looks as to deal with situations in their heads while opening up lines of questioning that help one zero in and fix a true underlying issue; rather than addressing or wasting time arguing moot points. i.e., If you only think about why someone is looting in general terms you rationalize the intent (boredom, mob behavior, frustration, etc.) far different from what if the intent was as soon as opportunity showed itself – that was what was to be done.
His reasoning was it happened far too quick. He said, “People just don’t lose the power and begin smashing windows 30 minutes later unless that’s exactly what you were waiting for.
Whether he was right or wrong didn’t matter. His line of thinking in objective analysis was spot on and I never forgot it. Plus it has served me well these decades later throughout my professional life.
So what does all this have to do about the issues today?
Well, it has a lot to do with what has just transpired in Atlanta in the willful experiment in both transporting as well as containing one of the world’s worst known viruses to the United States.
I use the words “experiment” as well as “willful” deliberately for this has never been done here before.
As of right now the Ebola virus which has been separated from the U.S. populace by the fortune of geological positioning has not only arrived on our doorstep, but was flown in deliberately on its own personal G5. Many are asking questions of; why?
I was speaking with a friend where I pondered a “what if” rhetorical rebuttal to their questioning of “why” and they nearly froze. As I said before: Changing why to what if many times opens up far more doors than one first believed even available.
The what if question was this: “What if they need to bring them back because they had no choice? What if the reason they need to get them into better facilities is for the worst of all reasons? i.e., It’s already here.”
Of course this is absolutely nothing more than a thought experiment. I’m not trying to be an alarmist banging pots and pans out in the streets with a sign around my neck claiming “The End Is Near!” Nor, do I have, know, or pretend to know what we should or should not be doing. I’m just asking a question because the answers are far too important and meaningful to not only business, but for much, much, more.
Here’s why one really needs to think (and that means clearly and rationally) for there are just too many other things happening that no one wants to even consider, let alone ponder “what ifs.”
Here’s what we know as of today. Not speculation, not hyperbole, not innuendo, but fact.
First: We know as of today we have an out of control southern border crisis where tens of thousands of both children and more are crossing in droves. Many have confirmed cases of infections diseases such as tuberculosis and others that have been all but eradicated in the U.S. currently.
What we also know is: we don’t know who or all the identities of those that crossed are. We know the bulk, but what about god forbid just one terrorist mixed within carrying the deadly Ebola virus. What if that were to be true?
Second: We know that there were infected people with this deadly virus detained and isolated after being seen visually suffering from the virus at: an airport. Albeit in the country of origin, but as I said earlier the question to ask is “what if” one made it past?
Third: This could have far more impact to western civilization and its society than any conventional means of warfare could ever have. And the people wanting to inflict harm are more than willing to use any and all means to bring about that end. No matter how hard one tries to equate or affix the immorality as to why one wouldn’t or shouldn’t.
I’ve talked, debated, and down right argued with people many times over the years where they begin to get up in arms as to defend positions through the “why” frame of reference. Well, “why would people to do this?” or “Why would one do that when …..?” (you can fill in the blank.)
What has over turned their soap box over whether it be about business, or just plain discussions on life more often than not is when I posit the “what if.” e.g., What if it doesn’t work? What if that doesn’t happen? What if there’s another reason? What if what you think to be true is in actuality wrong? This is when and where the questioning, reasoning, breakthroughs and more have happened. I believe you get what I’m trying to convey.
Don’t take any of this as a slam of the poor victims we just brought back. I have great compassion as well as admiration for these doctors and others that have the courage of their convictions to walk head first into a truly horrific condition as to try not only heal, but to help foster ways as to prevent.
These people are doing work where statutes should be erected at every public square in their honor. I understand and can easily rationalize all of the “whys” these people would embark on such truly humanitarian work.
What I currently fear is that once again I’m near alone where no one seems to even be thinking, let alone contemplating the obvious…
What If?
Finally, if you were wondering just how Ebola outbreaks spread so quickly, SCMP has created the ultimate history of how one of the deadliest viruses on earth, with a 90% mortality rate, is spreading faster than efforts to control it.
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Source: South China Morning Post
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That'll turn the .01% gene pool into an in-bred puddle. Oh wait...
And what if this magically only killed say 59 yr olders and up.? SS problem solved. Medicaid solved. Imagine the printing we could do with that pesky boomer crowd gone? Remember Ryans wheelchair? Obuttfuck has a better idea
The black death actually resulted in oligarchs/monarchs losing a lot of power in the middle ages, despite the fact that the wealthy were better able to isolate themselves and were much more likely to survive. Anything that goes through and wipes out a large percentage of the population forever alters power structures in an unpredictable way.
The Black death does not kill O rhesus blood type and we all know where that came from.......
type o negative - everything dies
That's 100% correct.
A number of historians attest that the 1347-1351 bubonic plague was the beginning of the Western world theme where the price of labour appreciated: labourers gaining economical power. With less population with roughly the same food resource (no tractors, one needed bodies to harvest) the poor, the average folk had it infinitely better. Labour was scarce so the aristocracy had to pay the peasant better wages, guilds started.
In fits and starts this labour bullish trend continued in the West till the 1970's ; it's been a bear market in labour wages since.
Tyler or someone can probably find a chart to illustrate this phenomena.
bear market
i'll take a pair of polar bears
3 grizzlies, half a dozen pandas
and throw in a couple of koalas for the kids...
just put it on my tab ...
El V, and oudinot, sounds like an echo in here! (I posted about this recently)
Always good to see people are interested, paying attention, and knowledgable!
The plague in London largely affected poor people, while the rich could, and did, leave the city and retire to their country estates or go to reside with kin in other parts of the country. The Great Fire however ruined many city merchants and property owners.[45] As a result of these events, London was largely rebuilt and Parliament enacted the Rebuilding of London Act 1666.[51] The street plan of the capital was relatively unchanged but the streets were widened, pavements were created, open sewers abolished, wooden buildings and overhanging gables forbidden, and the design and construction of buildings controlled. The use of brick or stone was mandatory and many gracious buildings were constructed. Not only was the capital rejuvenated, but it became a much more healthy environment in which to live. Londoners had a greater sense of community after they had overcome the great adversities of 1665 and 1666.[52]
Rebuilding took over ten years and was supervised by Robert Hooke as Surveyor of London.[53] The architect Sir Christopher Wren was involved in the rebuilding of St Paul's Cathedral and more than fifty London churches.[54] King Charles ll did much to foster the rebuilding work. He was a patron of the arts and sciences and founded the Royal Observatory and supported the Royal Society, a scientific group whose early members included Robert Hooke, Robert Boyle and Sir Isaac Newton. In fact, out of the fire and pestilence flowed arenaissance in the arts and sciences in England.[52]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plague_of_London
The 17th century London plague was piper compared to the Black Death of the 14th century.
Elites were usually quite glad for fire to run through a ghetto (or ten). I guess there were Keynesians even then.
You already owned the land, but could never evict the damn peasants, and the buildings (made from wood) kept expanding and expanding, leaning out over the street, making the streets narrower and narrower, winding, dark... crowded, filthy...
We have overkill on building regulations, they had none.
Even a large fire CAN be controlled. No one can control an organism, and life-forms can go anywhere, even places you'd think nothing could survive. There are living things near deep-sea vents where the water is BOILING...and there they are, swimming around, chillin' wit der homies...There are spores who can go dormant and seal up so tight it is believed some may actually be able to survive for long enough periods in space to cross interplanetary distances...
Man may be able to play around with aspects of a living thing, but that living thing is NEVER under his control. Not for a minute. Even if it is 'life' completely made in a lab it is out of his control the moment it becomes 'alive'.
I never understood the tendency for people to build 'up and among' rather than just spread out a little wider...I've seen pictures of that type of housing, and I want to grab the occupant by the neck and point his face in another direction and yell, "LOOK! LOOK at all that space! Why are you building 6 effin' inches away from your neighbor's window!"
It's like when you're standing in an empty elevator, and someone else gets on and proceeds to stand right next to you instead of comandeering his own space on the other side of the elevator.
That's because the 17th century victims were better able to handle the organism than their earlier ancestors were. Disease is usually worst when it first enters the human population. They are immuno-naive. But, like most organisms do, plague has made a sort of 'peace treaty' with humanity, and now Yersinia Pestis is easily treated with tetracycline-like drugs.
Of course, that can change again. It could mutate, and become very "hot" again. No one can know.
What a fucking moron! Did he wear a plastic body suit and surgical gloves all the way home?
I suppose you want him to wear a butt plug, too? Come man, this guy is a hero.
I suppose you think that given the alternative of the people using and servicing the aircraft toilets dying of ebola and this guy wearing a butt plug (and traveling on a private ambulance flight), the dying is preferable.
Are you a Zionist?
Jeez, No need for name calling.
Let's just go with a colostomy bag and call it even, OK?
The preceding was SARcasm. Thank you for playing.
La Quinta. You're talking about La Quinta.
This is insane. If someone is suspected of having TB, they don't get to knowingly fly here since it is transmitted easily.
It's not hype. It's just unnecessary risk.
Physicians know how to protect themselves from disease. Obviously, they did not do this with ebola or else the mode of transmission has changed.
Which is it?
The head Virologist in Sierra Leon contracted Ebola and died. In his words, "Health workers are prone to the disease because we are the first port of call for somebody who is sickened by disease. Even with the full protective clothing you put on, you are at risk."
The suits and the other gear do not guarantee protection. They never have. It does not necessarily indicate either not using the suits or a new transmission method. These people may just be exhausted and got sloppy.
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKBN0FS10V20140723
Travelers bleeding from their eyes and ears will be required to remove their shoes at the secondary screening
Your TSA
so true. I remember years back when the mad cow scare was in full-force. Even the Brit travelers were making fun of the tsa forcing folks to take off their shoes, extra screening, etc. Total security theater.
Yeah, the TSA don't want to be kicked whilst making your other orifices bleed.
So is Domino's delivering?
I thought the ebola only infected the dark ones.
/yes-thats-sarc
I wonder when / If everybody here in America
Is dead, will people finally Wake Up-!
And Impeach the Kenyan- Indonesian Golfer?
He was born in Kenya in 1963 so it was still under British rule so he is British and related to the royal family .
Any bets on whether WHO will issue updated numbers for 7/28-8/2 today? The website shows Sundays and Thursdays as the release days.
At this point, the open question how many bodies they are burying ASAP without even testing sort of mandates a big asterisk after whatever number they report.
I am wondering if anyone is left to issue the reports. With the large number of aid workers fleeing and the loss of most of the pre-existing medical staff there may not be a whole lot of folks left to count the bodies.
http://www.afro.who.int/en/clusters-a-programmes/dpc/epidemic-a-pandemic...
53 new cases 58 new deaths through 7/30.
h/t to Cthonic for the link the other day.
I took one thing out if this that is actually worrying me and making me begin to question what I know or was pretty convinced of...
When the Dr. Said " I do not know how Brantly was infected because cautious and cogizant around patients"
It has always been assumed that Ebola is unlikely to go airborne which is what made Reston,VA (For Hot Zone Readers) so frightening however it infected the Reese Monkeys through ventilation systems but not humans...yet this may be the nightmare scenario...I still do not believe it is mutated to become airborne but...idk now.
If it has..it's over at least for the part of the hemisphere..but eventually us also.
It has "always been assumed" or has it always been broadcast by Zio-MSM?
There is some evidence that it might already be somewhat airborne:
http://www.sott.net/article/282930-Ebola-What-you-re-not-being-told
"What we suspect is happening is large droplets; they can stay in the air, but not long; they don't go far," he explained. "But they can be absorbed in the airway, and this is how the infection starts, and this is what we think, because we saw a lot of evidence in the lungs of the non-human primates that the virus got in that way."
Translation: Ebola IS an airborne virus."
Is there an Ebola 2.0 or e=mc squared Ebola. I thought it was like a taco.
Hi folks, I've got SARS and small pox, but I'm going to self-quarantine myself, OK?
Hi folks, I was a Nazi death camp guard, but I'm going to self-quarantine myself, OK?
Hi folks, my body is completely radioactive from a swim I took around Fukushima, but I'm going to self-quarantine myself, OK? Well, first I'm going to the mall to buy some smokes, but then self-quarantine, definitely.
I'm going to fly home on a commercial flight and cough on my fellow passengers, drip snot, and leave my fluid traces in the airplane restroom before I altruistically quarantine myself on arrival after walking and coughing my way through immigration and customs.
I'd like to shake hands with the President for allowing folks like me to return home.
This is a chapter right out of Alien.
Right down to the last word out of The Company's mouth:
"we're going to study it".
read: "we don't make enough money giving you a derivative of the flu virus every year any more."
At least in Alien it was the creature that did all the dripping...
Team Depends +911 Hollywood always knows.
KNOWS ahead of time what the next crisis IS,
9-11 references appeared in lots of TV and Movie.
Now with have Walking Dead, as you said, ManHattan etc
Hope Hollywood goes first, just saying, feet first.
But maybe not Kate Upton
We also have a show about a big bubble that people can't get out of.
Life imitates art.
"The outage occurred during the mid morning. It wasn’t as if the streets or neighborhoods were cloaked in darkness. Yet, in less than 30 to 45 minutes after the outage started looters began smashing windows downtown and stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down."
This is why I invest in lead as well as gold.
This article makes no sense. No one knows if the virus is here already. So what?
Any and all possible vectors should be denied entrance into this country. Whether said vectors are heroes in someone's eyes or whether they are dead or currently alive doesn't matter.
Weaponized? Ft Detrick Maryland?
Plum Island?
Responding to AnthraxAnd strange, if you google Ebola vaccine: No vaccine YET
Ft Detrick in Fredrick Maryland---they got Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever samples from me in the early 70s --cut the spots right off my legs after letting me get all the way sick-- then I got the Chloromycetin and vola--walked out of the facility a week later---no charge--
Read "Lab 257", it would blow your mind. Non-fiction account of how freaking stupid the people are who govern us.
One good part was where the guys who ran the incinerator would cook up steaks and eat them.
DISEASED animals!!!
seems to me that "what if" is simply an answer to the question "why" and not a change in paradigms.
dlt
I heard eating bush meat and having sex with virgins can cure you of ebola.
You mean like the one in Africa to get rid of aids you just have to have sex with a 6 month old girl it was all the rage in the 90s.
I had an image of George Bush Jr. running like hell from the virgin raping zombies trying to eat him.
what if I couldn't figure out how to delete a comment
Me, me, let me try the reframing excercise:
"Why" is this TN doctor in the news? There have to be more workers than him back in the states? Why follow him?
"What if" they have deliberately planted this story for some purpose?
Getting us used to it my fellow bitchez, because, the author is right, it is here and they only have a few days to get us used to the idea because the clock is ticking...
Agreed
Tick.
Tock.
Tick.
Tock.
Stock up and prepare to hunker down for more a year or more. If you think you have enough food, fuel, drink, supplies, meds etc, to ride out an epidemic, you don't.
This government does not operate to help the individual or mankind, in general. If you can, PREPARE NOW.
calm down FFS. http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/02/ebola-covert-op-in-a-hypnot...
Junked already! I wonder if the Zio-sock puppets are junking you. Could it be . . .? Nah, they can't that awful, can they?
Good Question...
"What if they need to bring them back because they had no choice? What if the reason they need to get them into better facilities is for the worst of all reasons? i.e., It’s already here."
I would like to pass on the following advice. A Firefighter/EMT wrote the following and as a former Fire Chief myself, agree with him/her. I am a bit concerned by how this is shaping up and do not want to cause undo panic, but feel being prepared for this (or any other similar problem) would be prudent. Too many mistakes have been made already and it would be reasonable to expect that it could already be here.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/ebola-advice-from-a-firefighter-emt-heavy...
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Note: a 50/50 mix of clorox /water works very well as a disinfectant too. Another powerful cleaner we can use for decontamination is Tide laundry detergent.
I read this EMT's article. It says we can catch Ebola from an Ebola patient coughing or sneezing. I'm no expert but doesn't that make it airborne?
In a way, yes. When an infected patient sneezes, the droplets can remain suspended in the air for a time.
When you cough or sneeze, bodily fluids come out. That doesn't mean the virus travels around in the air. I still have not had any clear confirmation on whether Ebola can transfer through sweat, mucus or saliva.
Ebola is and always has been airbourne , Ebola is a very strange virus because it spreads in a strange way that to this day they do not understand , read 'THE HOT ZONE' and that will give you an insight into how it works after reading that I will run from any possible connection with it , it is not worth the risk.
Here is a pdf from Cornell about the virus. Most interesting even though it is a bit old.
http://dspace.library.cornell.edu/bitstream/1813/32110/1/BU-1519-M.pdf
Protein Essential for Ebola Virus Infection Is a Promising Target
http://hms.harvard.edu/news/protein-essential-ebola-virus-infection-prom...
In separate papers published online in Nature, two research teams report identifying a critical protein that Ebola virus exploits to cause deadly infections. The protein target is an essential element through which the virus enters living cells to cause disease.
The first study was led by four senior scientists: Sean Whelan, associate professor of microbiology and immunobiology at Harvard Medical School; Kartik Chandran, assistant professor at Albert Einstein College of Medicine; John Dye at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) and Thijn Brummelkamp, originally at the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research and now at the Netherlands Cancer Institute. The second study was led by James Cunningham, a Harvard Medical School associate professor of medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, and also co-authored by Chandran.
“This research identifies a critical cellular protein that the Ebola virus needs to cause infection and disease,” explained Whelan, who is also co-director of the HMS Program in Virology. “The discovery also improves chances that drugs can be developed that directly combat Ebola infections.”
Both papers are published in the August 24 online issue of Nature.
(Even if NOT "aiborne", which it may or may not be...) Ebola can be transmitted by any bodily fluid -- mucus, spit, blood...and sweat. But I'm sure no one in Africa or on an airplane is sweating too much.
Quoting from live science website:
The Cough - The average human cough would fill about three-quarters of a two-liter soda bottle with air — air that shoots out of the lungs in a jet several feet long. Coughs also force out thousands of tiny droplets of saliva. About 3,000 droplets are expelled in a single cough, and some of them fly out of the mouth at speeds of up to 50 miles per hour.
The Sneeze - It starts at the back of the throat and produces even more droplets — as many as 40,000 — some of which rocket out at speeds greater than 200 miles per hour. The vast majority of the droplets are less than 100 microns across — the width of a human hair. Many of them are so tiny that they cannot be seen with the naked eye.
"What happens to these droplets depends on their size," said fluid dynamicist Bakhtier Farouk of Drexel University in Philadelphia. He is working on software that models how microscopic droplets move around a room.
Most of the larger, heavier drops fall quickly to the floor under the influence of gravity. The smaller and lighter particles (those that are five microns or less across) are less affected by gravity and can stay airborne almost indefinitely as they are caught up in and dispersed by the room's airflow.
So reading this article found here (new window) opened my eyes up a bit. Interesting read and shows the potential of spread for Ebola. I'm still considering the "hype" and the potential set up with the [self quarantined doctor] as possible govt set up. A lot to consider... future never looked brighter eh?
Unfortunately, due to a head injury causing brain damage recently, I'm not allowed to process this information while consuming alcohol. Alcohol allows for a deeper understanding of the "shit sandwich" as someone so eloquently quoted Rafterman? from Full Metal Jacket that we are all 'mostly' going to have to take a bite of.
Is the weird stuff that happens when I'm posting from my computer, site maintenance or hacking?
Windows.
I've read this EMT's article. It says we can catch Ebola from an Ebola patient coughing or sneezing. I'm no expert but doesn't that make it airborne?
Also... (the basics to be mastered before everyone goes nuts and runs out to fulfill the mandate of the latest Obama-induced hording panic. I'm starting to miss the kinder, gentler/compassionate conservative Bush version of everyone's patriotic spending duty):
1) Long sleeves, long pants
2) No open sores or exposed mucous membranes (hat/headband over the ears and no assless chaps for the queers)
3) Avoid public restrooms like the plague
4) Stop touching yourself so much, and especially without being conscious of the activity
Frontline did an episode on the superbug , KPC, outbreak at the NIH. This bacteria got loose in the hospital and killed many people.
They were totally unable to control it. With that in mind, it is stunning to let Ebola n this country. The episode can be viewed here
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/health-science-technology/huntin...
Throughout recorded history there have been reports of "gods" of unfamiliar entities spreading/spraying fog that caused the people to become sick and die. There were reports of this before the black plague and before the Spanish flu... as well as other outbreaks.
"What if" these reports are true and "someone" is intentionally causing these diseases to reduce the population.
There was also a report through a less than reputable internet source that drivers were hired to move biohazards from an underground laboratory near Albany New York to military bases around the country. "What if" it is true?
"What if" the people coming across our southern border are being sent to military bases or collection points close to military bases so that they can be infected and distributed to cities all over the country?
I guess SV40 an radiation is just too slow for those who want population reduction. There is ample evidence that the governments have been involved in the creation of weaponized diseases. Maybe they or their controllers have finally decided to pull the trigger.
I suspect only a doomsday cult that wants to die along with everyone else would use a bio-weapon. Either that, or a group with a great deal of hubris. Diseases mutate, vaccines are not always 100 percent effective. Even if you hide underground for a while, the viruses will still be in the environment, waiting for you when you come out.
Hubris is a defining characteristic of US government, military, large companies.
what if Reverend Thomas Robert Malthus ???
A Ebola outbreak will be a the ultimate scapegoat for the eventual QE failure.
The patient flown back were isolated using negative pressure enviroments...like would be used for an airborne disease. Why are they saying it's not airborne if they are using negative pressure protocols?
If you have the ability to take extra precautions, why would you not do so? Just in case ...
If you have the ability to not take that chance in the first place why not pursue that option?
IF* Ebola is airborne, even to some extent, you are inviting one of the most lethal (and if airborne contagious) diseases on planet earth to your front steps. A disease that makes you bleed out of every hole. Why would you invite it here period? Even if there is a less than .05% chance of it spreading once here, why even entertain that chance?
Guess the sensible thing for politicians to have done would have been to ban all people travelling to/from affected areas, even the whole continent if it's spreading.
It's almost like they want a pandemic.
**they** want a pandemic?
Heck, **I** want a pandemic.
Population control, do you see?
You first, Maggot!
Very funny. I don't think.
here is a what if the author briefly touched upon but ignored his own advice to remain objective and fact based. what if the reason the patients were brought here was1)to develop protocols for treatment that can be used in africa 2)in anticipation that the entire world will be exposed this time. the implication that it was here already is pure speculation and conjecture. while some contingencies must be addressed(what ifs), a crisis must be real for a real solution. the patients bring a real microcosm of a real crisis to develop real solutions.
FOR GOD's SAKE: YOU PEOPLE WERE WARNED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=678shOI0wdg
subprime is contained...
And Iraq was the cause of 9/11. They had WMDs too.
What if everyone was panicy and paranoid from ebola horror stories ? What if someone got sick ? What if a terrorist was spotted ? What if it was suddenly necessary to call out the national guard to restore order ? What if the gloves had to be taken off to guaranty the absolute safety of everyone ? What if Patriot 2 was suddenly implemented from seeming out of nowhere. What if afterwards it turned America had been conned again ? What if ebola turned out not to be anywhere near as dangerous as the goverment goons stripping away your rights ?
Yawn...
AIDS...gonna kill us all.
Bird flu, swine flu...gonna kill us all.
USSR was gonna nuke us all (update: Putin is gonna kill us all)
Solar flare? gonna kill us all
Astetoid from hell...kill us all
Climate cooling/warming/change..we're all dead
Second hand smoke..dead
Obamacare..dead. OK that one is real.
Sharknado. It's all gonna go down with a massive sharknado.
LOOOL!!! What a coincidence. It ran on one of my TV channels today, and by george did I laugh!!! But then again - I could only watch the first 10-15 minutes or so, before it got too overwhelmingly sad to see what people spend money on these days. Yet - it was bitter sweet, because with all the Holywood doom porn around that leaves you with a sneaky feeling that this or that plot might not be entirely unlikely to happen for real - this one was pure joy, with absolutely no worry in that department whatsoever. On an economic note - times must definitely have become very tough for certain otherwise reasonably enjoyable TV drama actors, in order for them to have agreed to participate in this 100% pure bred cliff dive.
Gee what a coincidence and it's all falling into place so perfectly?...
Thank goodness they brought them to Atlanta.... The FEMA Region in Georgia is soooooo prepared for just such an emergency!
Now they have all the time in the world to sit back "to analyze" the escalation of the damage!!!
Beyond Ebola Preparation
http://thebookgallery2014.blogspot.com/2014/08/beyond-ebola-preparation....
Ebola.
Brought to you by the people who cannot design a working website, and cannot follow simple procedures to contain Anthrax.
All hail the CDC.
Fuck I wish I could get off this fucking planet.
Living in this screwed-up country these days is like waking up from a nightmare on a bad acid trip at a carnival.
"Ebola in Memphis"
There's Ebola in Memphis
Bleeding from every orifice off of Beale
Ebola in Memphis
But do I really feel the way I feel?
This storyline will vanish in 1-2 weeks. Mark my word. The traction is losing footing
If the storyline vanishes then we will have real problems.
They only lie at first then quash the story if that proves out ineffective.
GATA is not allowed on the MSM. In fact the Reporters are not allowed to mention it.
That does not mean that we do not have Gold Takedowns every week and that it is not manipulated...
You will not be reading about the Financial Collapse until they can no longer deny it. You will not be reading about World War III before the fact. Then you may not be reading about it after the fact as you may be dead.
Likewise with Ebola.
How is Syria? That is a case in point as ISIS has it pretty well wrapped up into a civil breakdown of epic proportions. And we funded that nightmare.
Yes, this 21 day incubation period is too long for Joe Sixpack's attention span.
Here’s what we know as of today. Not speculation, not hyperbole, not innuendo, but cold hard irrefutable facts:
1. The U.S. is infected with a virus that is systematically weakening the defenses of its generous host and will destroy it if left to its own devices.
2. This virus has attacked, is attacking and will continue to attack relentlessly until it kills the host or vice versa.
3. The U.S. have one of the most powerful immune systems in the world at its disposal. It just needs to become aware of what's happening, activated and operating at its fullest potential to stop the onslaught.
4. Unbeknownst to the immune system the white blood cells come in many colors like, yellow, black and brown. But the white blood cells have been tricked into thinking that these other colored cells are the enemy and vice versa, therefore weakening the immune system's full capability.
4. There have been warning signs, predictive programming messages, and outright announcements everywhere made by the virus' and its creators about what will happen in the future if the virus is not eradicated.
5. Large gangs of deadly bacteria, some also infected and transporting the virus, are right now being delivered via the bloodstream and airways throughout the host with the knowing and willing support of treasonous dispersal agents working in conjunction with the virus to kill the host.
6. Meanwhile back in Gomorrah radiation levels are rising, children are dying and the virus is celebrating the cow jumping over the moon here too.
can someone help me decipher this... airborne/aeresol? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7547435
They took infected blood or lung butter and put it in a windex bottle and sprayed monkeys in the face with the windex bottle, and then they were shocked! shocked! when the monkeys came down with ebola.
Moral of the story: Don't let ebola zombies cough or spend any time in your general vicinity. And if you need further federal funding for moar research, use really scary words in your published papers.
I feel safer now...whew
IF the Ebola patients were brought back to the U.S. to cover the fact that it is already here the actual purpose is to salvage the Two Party Duopoly.
IF Ebola walked across the southern border then BOTH the Democrats ( "WE need the voters and YOU are a racist!" ) and Republican ( "We need the cheap labor and incessant downward pressure on wages !" ) camps are BOTH fucked for not closing the borders and actually implimenting screening measures beyond the bullshit DHS airport barefoot grope.
IF it is discovered that the Duopoly fucked up and invited an epidemic pandering to their bases the whole political landscape will at best collapse into neo-Tea Party mayhem in short order and at worst ignite an out and out hot-leaded domestic civil conflict.
Even on zero hedge its rare to see this much concentrated wing-nuttery. Thanks for the laugh.
no... thank you!
usually, i could care less, it's all bullshit entertainment anyway..in this case...go fuck yourself....my apologies..i have been drinking.
...this, in all seriousness, is beginning to look like the 'latest' fear/distraction tactic (and, in all honesty, i hope this outbreak isn't as big a threat as the msm are saying it is / could be).
Ukraine just didn't cut it...
Gaza just didn't do it...
Ebola is actually too deadly and too fast-acting to be a good candidate for a global pandemic or even epidemic (using the term in the public health sense). That's why prior outbreaks have burned out rather quickly instead of spreading worldwide like a flu. it's not that our health authorities are so good, it's just not that kind of virus. Still sucks if you're a victim but as long as you are not caring for ebola patients or bringing the bodies of dead ebola victims into your house for handling and ritual cleansing, you are not going to catch it. Better to spend this energy worrying about one of the millions of greater risks you face every day like driving, taking a shower, or using stairs. For Americans ebola is a website page view generator and a distraction, not a risk.
Pay no attention to the fact that this is the largest outbreak ever.
Joint Project Manager Medical Countermeasure Systems (JPM-MCS) U.S. Department of Defense (DoD)
In 2010, Tekmira signed a $140-million contract with the DoD to advance an RNAi therapeutic, which utilized our LNP technology, to treat Ebola virus infection. In 2013, the collaboration was expanded to include significant advances in LNP formulation technology, including a new LNP formulation that was more potent, the ability to be able to lyophilize (freeze-dry) LNP formulations and an LNP formulation that can be administered subcutaneously. In January 2014, Tekmira commenced TKM-Ebola Phase I clinical trial. JPM-MCS, a component of the Joint Program Executive Office for Chemical and Biological Defense, aims to provide U.S. military forces and the nation with safe, effective, and innovative medical solutions to counter chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. JPM-MCS facilitates the advanced development and acquisition of medical countermeasures and systems to enhance U.S. biodefense response capability. For more information, visit www.jpeocbd.osd.mil. Read more about TKM-Ebola here.
http://www.tekmira.com/partners/partnerships.php
Aug 1 (Reuters) - Shares of Canada's Tekmira Pharmaceuticals Corp , which hopes to produce the first treatment for the deadly Ebola virus, have skyrocketed as the worst-ever outbreak of the virus intensified in West Africa. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/01/health-ebola-tekmira-idUSL2N0Q723P20140801?feedType=RSS
isn't it amazing, that despite the fact that we don't know what 'flavour' virus will pop up in any given place, at any given time... there are some that claim to have an effective vaccine, or such.
total number of viruses we have immunity to = 0
total number of viruses we have irradicated = 0
go figure...
If only there was a virus that targeted racist baby boomers.
"'A bigger and more serious risk is that a group manages to harness the virus as a power, then explodes it as a bomb in a highly populated public area,' Dr Walsh told The Sun on Sunday."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2714832/Terrorists-use-Ebola-cre...
Or what if terrorists train aphids to deliver a small amount of Ebola onto every tomato in the UK? Or what if killer monkeys armed with straws are unleashed on the Mall, blowing Ebola infected spitballs onto tourists' icecream cones? Can you imagine?
Clearly you can.
Clearly I don't need to imagine you're an asshole. Not even a witty one.
Clever fellow to work with Ebola victims and fly direct home to the USA before he knows he is well and not infectious. His cleverness and his great concern for his fellow Americans deserves a few "praise Jesuses". CNN's resident doctor says Ebola will ariive in the USA either now or with a further outbreak, but that is no worry because Ebola is very very very hard to get, and we are so clever and smart as Americans that we can stop any outbreat easily and quickly due to our exceptional status as Americans. While others may worry, Ebola on American soil is just not a concern for any but the paranoid.
Just like IRaq was a cake walk due to the nationality of the occupiers, being American, so too Ebola is just nothing to cause a problem when WE Americans deal with it.
You got that right, Jack. Magical thinking is at play.
"Of course nothing like an Ebola outbreak can happen to US! We are special! Americans are EXCEPTIONAL!"
Go a step further. Like the author was saying...
What if, an Islamic extremist (or any extremist for that matter) goes to Africa for the purpose of becoming infected, hops on a plane to Mexico, and walks across the Obama border? He's not particularly worried about quarantining himself as much as he is spreading the disease while he still can to as many people as possible. Regardless of how clean we are, if there is one or more people intentionally trying to infect people there is very little you can do to stop it.
And if you think the world is short of people who would do something like this than you would be wrong. Many have been found doing this with AIDS - purposefully spreading (putting needles in the change receptacle of vending machines, purposeful unprotected sex knowingly carring the virus, etc)
Jack - It's rare that I log in just to make a point.... but a point I must make because it's so very ironic indeed... about clever... girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKRnEOUxZm0
It's a zoo... keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times... cheers
Remember the kitchen scene in the movie "Jumanji"? A monkey on top of a stove reaches down and turns a knob resulting in flames shooting from the burner directly under its ass. I can't help but think of this world as a giant gas stove and our leaders as rampaging monkeys.
We are routing ebola in the east. And routing ebola again in the west!
Never mind Ohio's water, and the millions of fish dying from goo.
http://enenews.com/millions-of-fish-found-dead-on-california-coast-3rd-m...
Unbelievable. This Pediatrician should have done a 21-day quarantine THERE! NOT HERE!
The dumbass took a comercial flight? Are you fucking kidding me? Am I wrong in thinking this idiot's state medical board needs to pull his license for gross incompetence?
Am I wrong to think that this guy is a douche bag? I mean, he goes on a "medical mission holiday" and then scurries back home to the USA potentially exposing dozens if not hundreds of people to a risk THEY never signed up for!
Again, UNBELIEVABLE!
And where is the CDC in clamping down on more of these medical-mission vacationers? I have no idea if tens of American nurses are flying home as we speak, do you? Does anyone?
+100 to novictim
"medical mission holiday." Could that mean 'sex tourist'?
Amen! This guy should have his license suspended...if not revoked.
I recently read "The Hot Zone" and was horrified at the CDC's lack of the use of quarantine in Reston, VA incident (second one). The virus mutates...it will continue to mutate. I trust the CDC about as far as I can throw their building.
ebola is not jewish
those bug germs little critters are african and arab.
ebola is not a jewish name
we are as usual innocent
goy blame hamas for putting infected human dna in your burgers.
if you had taken bill gates vaccines maybe you could have survived the coming talmudic satanic fema camp storm
tony, this is even beneath you... sometime or another, you've got to stop and ask yourself "did i pop one too many pill", no?
i was being ironic the us military lab that made this was run by a jew.
that is kosher in my book honey : )
Its fake!
It is a smoke screen while they wipe Gaza from the human map.
Correct, Ebola is not Jewish. After much research, I found it also is not Episcopalian, much to my surprise. It appears to have no religious preferences.
However, politically speaking, Ebola is definitely progressive / socialist:
You receive it from a guy with a smile, a handshake, and false assurances, and it leaves you bleeding with all resources depleted, and in the end, dead.
My rendition of Buffalo Gals
Ebola gals won't you come out tonight,
come out tonight, come out tonight
Ebola gals won't you come out tonight
and find your nearest quarantine station
Can I sign my ex up for some mission work?
I believe the "Why" question is accompanied by the "What if" question and visa-versa......maybe Mark St. Cry has just discovered that.......the "what if" is precisely "why" the patients should not be brought here in the first place and the reason most people are automatically asking "Why"
"What if" Dr Jamison is infected "Why" at the very least would he risk passing infection to his family if not the whole country?
It is outrageous that universal quarantine rules of controlling infectious disease is not followed by closing the borders and isolating the plague. WHY?
With all the attacks by Washington against the American people what makes one believe that they would not use biological warfare against their own people? Will the bankster ever be prosecuted and brought to Justice?
Treasonous “open border” secret trade agreements of the North American Union is nothing new, the plan has been on the books, funded and underway for the last 13 years. The target of “open border” illegal immigration is to destroy our American Sovereignty and American Independence with government and NGO funded and orchestrated attacks on our borders with the use of illegal immigrants. The second objective is to create civil unrest and chaos with asymmetric warfare which the criminals in Washington specialize in. The war criminals in Washington are bringing the “hot” war home.
I know most Americans cannot believe that the attack on 9/11/01 was an “inside Job” that orchestrated us into national debt with “terrorist wars” for the last 13 years. They cannot believe that our Representative Republic, constitutional democracy (government of, for and by the People) has been purposely destroyed and replaced with a totalitarian fascist police state.
Americans cannot believe that our Free Enterprise System of capitalism (free from corporate monopoly) and “Fair Trade” has been destroyed by “Free Market” monopoly corporatism and “Free Trade” (multinational corporate monopolies are free to steal what ever they want, from whom ever they want, and do it legally).
Americans cannot believe that Washington would purposelessly bankrupt the USA. Debt is Wealth, they have been brainwashed to believe, --as we go underwater.
Mission Accomplished! Bush/Obama/banksters and crew!!!!
Our democracy is gone, our Free Enterprise System of capitalism is gone. We are bankrupt! The grand ole United States of America, like Greece, Portugal and others is going into receivership of the BIS and the IMF (same criminal banksters). At that point, we are no longer an independent and sovereign nation and you and your children, as citizens, are legal debt slaves to the global central banksters.
The illegal immigration attack coincides with the UN Agenda 21st. Century attack and the North American Union attack that are sponsored by the same criminal banksters.
Either this has to do with Ebola or they possibly know something we don't concerning those biological timebombs flooding the borders (maybe tuberculosis) or something else.
http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/31/executive-order-revi...
Executive Order -- Revised List of Quarantinable Communicable DiseasesEXECUTIVE ORDER
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REVISED LIST OF QUARANTINABLE COMMUNICABLE DISEASES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 264(b) of title 42, United States Code, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Amendment to Executive Order 13295. Based upon the recommendation of the Secretary of Health and Human Services, in consultation with the Acting Surgeon General, and for the purposes set forth in section 1 of Executive Order 13295 of April 4, 2003, as amended by Executive Order 13375 of April 1, 2005, section 1 of Executive Order 13295 shall be further amended by replacing subsection (b) with the following:
"(b) Severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled. This subsection does not apply to influenza."
Sec. 2. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department, agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
BARACK OBAMA
"Severe acute respiratory syndromes"
So are they saying it's airborne?
Apparently the CDC thinks it is airborne:
CDC Warns Hospitals On EBOLA "CONTAMINATED AIR" and Directs use of "Airborne Infection Isolation Room"shttp://pissinontheroses.blogspot.ch/2014/08/alert-cdc-warns-hospitals-on...
pissinontheroses.blogspot is always where i go for reputable, breaking news!
Should read: "By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, CUZ I SAY SO MOTHERFUCKER, it is hereby ordered as follows:"
High profile incidents covered by the media often reassures the public that the government stands ready to rush to our aid in case of a national disaster. Following a tornado or hurricane in the newscast we see FEMA workers spread-out and moving from door to door offering help to Americans in need.
Be prepared that in the case of a major crisis or disaster if you find yourself in an large area of devastation the government will prove largely ineffective. If and when a really large Armageddon event does occur we will quickly become acutely aware that God helps those who help themselves. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/government-pandering-in-disasters...
"What if they need to bring them back because they had no choice? What if the reason they need to get them into better facilities is for the worst of all reasons? i.e., It’s already here.""
That is most definitely not the 'worst of all reasons'.....
You go, BOY!
Worst of all reasons #1: Population control.
Worst of all reasons #2: Corporate profit
Worst of all reasons #3: CDC was bored with incurable TB symptoms, needed to spice things up
Worst of all reasons #4: Stored small pox virus was found to be non-viable
Worst of all reasons #5: Brad Pit agreed to play CDC director in upcoming Blockbuster: EBOLA NATION
I hear "Hemorrhagic Fever Club" is the working title.
First rule of ...
Sssshh!
How about to build antibodies for the "Right" people?
Perhaps its part of Obama's grand plan to reduce America to the level of a third world hell hole.
Incurable TB coming with the invaders from South of the Border, along with bacterial pneumonia, chagas, chikungunya virus, Scabies, Whooping Cough, BED BUGS, Chicken pox, and a few dozen others, seems to indicate that .gov WANTS this in the USA. Now add Ebola, and you have a perfect storm. One which furthers the ULTIMATE GOAL, of the PUPPETMASTERS, i.e. the genocide of the White race. The more you know about the history of the Puppetmasters, and their 3,000 year HATRED of the White race well, they also have their German supplied nuclear armed attack Dolphin submarines just in case they can't do it this way.
The truth is NEVER told in school, church, mainstream media, because they are all arms of the Genocidal Maniacs who run Wall Street and Hollyweird and OWN both DNC AND GOP.
Incurable TB didn't come from South America. It came from Russia, in the late 90's, out of the prison system there. Many prisoners were released, and are being released, into the general population, and bringing the disease with them.
The worlds poor 'brown people' aren't at fault here. They can't afford the new antibiotics we're making. It is in our Western developed nations that these resistant strains are emerging.