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Nigerian Doctor Who Treated American Ebola Casualty, Contracts Virus; Troops Deployed In Liberia
The Lagos doctor who treated American Patrick Sawyer (who died from Ebola in late July) has been confirmed as infected by the deadly virus by Nigerian authorities. This is Nigeria's second confirmed case of Ebola but what is most concerning is the fact that the doctor's infection suggests contagion is less well-contained that authorities have claimed - especially in light of the fact that they did not quarantine Sawyer's fellow passengers. Nigeria is now the fourth nation to report Ebola cases, as Sierra Leone and Liberia are deploying hundreds of troops under an emergency plan to "contain" the worst outbreak of Ebola virus in history.
Nigerian authorities say they have confirmed a second case of Ebola in Africa's most populous country, an alarming development after a man who flew by plane to the country died of Ebola.
Nigerian Health Minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said Monday that the second person with Ebola is a doctor who had helped treat Patrick Sawyer, the Liberian-American man who died of Ebola in late July.
Sawyer, who was traveling to Nigeria on business, became ill while aboard a flight and Nigerian authorities immediately took him into isolation. They did not quarantine his fellow passengers, and have insisted that the risk of additional cases was minimal.
But it seems this is changing now as contagion concerns rise...
According to the Minister, 70 people are now placed under surveillance while eight people would be quarantined on Monday for developing symptoms of the disease.
Apart from taking those steps, the government has also set up a treatment research group, that will carry out treatment research, receive and verify treatment claims as well as advise government on issues relating to Ebola virus in Nigeria.
Nigeria is the fourth country to report Ebola cases and at least 728 other people have died in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia. And as Reuters reports, troops are now being deployed to manage the chaos...
Hundreds of troops deployed in Sierra Leone and Liberia on Monday under an emergency plan to fight the worst outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus, which has killed more than 826 people across West Africa.
Panic among local communities, which have attacked health workers and threatened to burn down isolation wards, prompted regional governments to impose tough measures last week, including the closure of schools and quarantine of the remote forest region hardest hit by the disease.
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Long convoys of military trucks ferried troops and medical workers on Monday to Sierra Leone's far east, where the density of cases is highest. Military spokesman Colonel Michael Samoura said the operation, code named Octopus, involved around 750 military personnel.
Troops will gather in the southeastern town of Bo before travelling to isolated communities to implement quarantines, he added. Healthcare workers will be allowed to come and go freely, and the communities will be kept supplied with food.
In neighbouring Liberia, President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf and ministers held a crisis meeting on Sunday on putting in place a series of anti-Ebola measures as police contained infected communities in the northern Lofa county.
Police were setting up checkpoints and roadblocks for key entrance and exit points to those infected communities and every resident would be stopped. Nobody would be allowed to exit quarantined communities. Troops were fanning out across Liberia to help to deal with the emergency.
"The situation will probably get worse before it gets better," Liberian Information Minister Lewis Brown told Reuters. "We are over-stretched. We need support; we need resources; we need workers."
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Director of Liberian National Police Chris Massaquoi said last week that troops would place forces in areas where crowds had previously stoned health workers. He added that all protests, demonstrations and marches had been forbidden.
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Sadly, just as we warned here, this 'containment' was entirely foreseeable.
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Hopefully the full roster of Academi is called in to assist.
Ukraine is so jejune.
So 8 people on the plane with that guy are showing symptoms? That does not bode well.
pods
edit: Might not be passengers of that flight.
hey, don't worry... obama just signed another executive order. This one permits the government to quarantine anyone showing signs of respiratory illness... certainly we can trust the government, they would never release a biowarfare agent globally.... /s
http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-executive-order-to-detain-americans-...
Academy can do squat. Viruses out of control, are out of control and NOBODY can bring them back under control, once out there.
If they become airborne, we are simply screwed it is a question of time for disaster to occur. Only military and complete autocratic regimes have hope of doing anything
http://www.afro.who.int/en/clusters-a-programmes/dpc/epidemic-a-pandemic...
New WHO numbers for 7/31 and 8/1. (confirmed, probable, and suspected)
163 total new cases 61 deaths.
There is also something weird with the 7/31 release covering 7/28-7/30: http://www.afro.who.int/en/clusters-a-programmes/dpc/epidemic-a-pandemic...
Top of the page says 53 new cases, down the page above the chart it says 55 new cases. Yet if you compare the chart in the 7/31 release to the chart in the 7/29 release you see 117 new cases.
7/29 updated through 7/27 1323 total cases
7/31 updated through 7/30 1440 total cases
http://www.afro.who.int/en/clusters-a-programmes/dpc/epidemic-a-pandemic...
I hope(d) this hadn't gone airborne but it sure seems to be spreading too quickly.
time to work remotely and hunker down on the farm with my familly???
http://www.naturalnews.com/046290_Ebola_patent_vaccines_profit_motive.html#
(NaturalNews) The U.S. Centers for Disease Control owns a patent on a particular strain of Ebola known as "EboBun." It's patent No. CA2741523A1 and it was awarded in 2010. You can view it here. (Thanks to Natural News readers who found this and brought it to our attention.)
Patent applicants are clearly described on the patent as including:
The Government Of The United States Of America As Represented By The Secretary, Department Of Health & Human Services, Center For Disease Control.
The patent summary says, "The invention provides the isolated human Ebola (hEbola) viruses denoted as Bundibugyo (EboBun) deposited with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ("CDC"; Atlanta, Georgia, United States of America) on November 26, 2007 and accorded an accession number 200706291."
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So I read this Patrick Sawyer had diarrhea and threw up WHILE ON THE AIRPLANE that landed in Lagos.
The Flight from Hell.
The CDC patent is a joint venture with MonSATAN.
the story behind the monsanto family:
http://www.rense.com/general76/ssje.htm
Maybe... I am lucky enough to already work from home. I am just increasing my supplies here just in case.
This is all that needs to be said. Increase supplies. That has been my job last week and this one.
Thanks fuu. Trends matter, and this trend has my stomach in a knot, but we need the truth.
sudden and friends remain calm, after all the most relevant prior uncurable virus out break in San franciso of the 80's was successfully controlled by vigorous CDC efforts, that is why there are no current Aids patients and no new cases in years, er oh wait, never mind.
It's a trend.
http://i.imgur.com/Y9LA9pU.png
The multiple recent inflection points in that graph, all increasing the slope, are not good.
By ''not good'' I mean potentially catastrophic.
In regards to the WHO count -
On the difficulty of counting the cases in Liberia
Worse, says the professor, “I learned that day there was only one Case Investigation Team operating.” He explained, that’s the team sent to “investigate and classify all symptomatic patients and any suspicious dead bodies in the various communities of all of Monrovia.” The single team is “days behind in investigating reported cases.”
Since there were odd one-off confirmed cases in Nigeria and MOROCCO, as of the reporting the date that might account for the discrepancy of 2. But I haven't dug into the official count yet.
Ray Charles, both blind & dead could see the irony of TSA cavity searches, & an open border. NOBODY is that stupid.
The EO is the next advance from martial law lite to full blown totalitarian ACA/FEMA death camps.
Behold a pale horse.
ebola escaped Nigeria through that single flight into the Lagos airport. 70 people on the pane who then went on to other places? contacted other people?
Six degrees of separation, bitchez.
Does the virus travel via Facebook?
farts...definitely farts...
that's how they will weaponize it for maximum dispersion.
If you fly on a plane w/ a guy who has Ebola, you can catch Ebola from him. Supposedly from saliva, blood, etc. But possibly now airborne (considering how many docs have gotten sick).
BUT... If you get on a plane, 24 hours later, YOU ARE NOT INFECTIOUS YET. The virus still has to incubate IN YOU, before it can become infectious. Incubation is upwards of 14 days, AFAIK.
Back in the University days, my Microbiology teacher referred to passenger aircraft as a "inoculation chamber" lol, no wait...
So we've got Plaguez, bitchez?
O rly? LOL wut. no way, dude.
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Only sensible thing to do is cordon off all of the countries, areas where it's been found and let it burn itself out.
And take everybody suspected of contact and place them in isolation.
Period.
Actually, the only sensible thing to do was to slaughter all those in infected areas and then follow up with tank driven flame throwers. If it has a 90% kill rate, better to be sure with a 100% kill rate than let it spread pandemically.
So, now that's its within the lower 48 states and Canada, I'd say we're all rather fk'd.
Can't wait for it to break out in Mexico or Central America.
If it does, better get at least six months food supply and prepare for blackouts and urban anarchy.
Ebola is found in other primates besides humans, and harmlessly in fruit bats, so the actual chance of your plan working is zero.
It's been found in Atlanta. Does that count?
I see what you're saying here and indeed! The flu is only 1 degree of seperation!
That would be not so good if true, That would be a nightmare.
But if it's on a plane, most likely it will be in Europe pretty soon as Brussels and Amsterdam are the airport hubs to Africa so we'll see what happens.
But here they've already did tests on quartines and there's no case where it actually works.
Like in the movie outbreak... The only thing that works is torch the place and kill everything in the region.
But that's if Ebola is actually a level 4 virus. So we'll see. Eyes on the black community comming from Africa in Europe now for the first signs.
And if that doesn't happen it's bullshit.
And a few cases don't prove anything.
and i'm sure the troops are really excited about this deployment.
they would probably rather take their chances in some war zone given the lesser of two evils - and hopes of getting out alive
Yeah... True heros who risk their lives for a paychecj that sometimes maybe get paid.
At least in a conventional war there is always the rape & pilage thing if the paycheck doesn't cash. With ebola, not so much...
Yeah, you gotta wonder how effective the checkpoints are going to be.
My wife thinks its airborne. She thinks they were dumb to transfer it here. She thinks they should shut down air travel out of Africa. She thinks they need a medical ship off the coast. She thinks many afflicted will travel from Africa to western medicine. What does she know. She only worked in Sierra Leone travel nursing, has a Masters from Columbia Med and runs a clinic. Im contacting my cousin who is an epidemiologist at Emory. Get ready.
Your wife is very brave. And probably right 100%.
When Gary Kubiak collapsed on field during a game last year she blurted out "thats a TIA!" Three days later he was confirmed in that diagnosis. She knows her shit. Im glad we are outta NYC and the ER she ran in the Bronx.
Off topic: these motherfucking popup mobile ads gotta go.
Google Chrome has a popup blocker that is pretty effective; so does Firefox, I understand.
a techie at a mac shop got rid of mine
firefox with ghostery. That gets rid of them all. I use tor now though, which does allow some of that stuff, but they are all random since you are always on a different IP address
Be aware that TOR was originally a DARPA project to allow US diplomatic personell the ability to connect anonymously to the internet, and that a majority of onion routers are still run by DARPA.
Use Ghostery and you will have no problems. Even stops the NSA !
Well, except for the camera and microphone in your cell phone.
You don't have a clue what Ghostery is by that reply. Try google, duh...
i'm a knowledgeable dude, but I am worthless upon technology. I'm lucky I can post on ZH and email. I got ABP on my CPU, but my phone and tablet, where most ZH reading occurs, I can't figure it out...but I will. I wish we could have ZH meetings in person like AA.
"Hi my name is IridiumRebel....and I am addicted to the truth...."
"HI IRIDIUMREBEL."
*cough, cough*
Group meetings may need to be stopped until a 21 day period passes and nobody else comes down ill.
*cough, cough*
but after that, I'm all for ZH meetings.
Imagine our shock when we see what each other looks like! I can't help but LOL. (by the way, I look like Brad Pitt, Robert Redford and Paul Newman kind of mix)
I look like The Rock, but less tanned; swear.
Firefox browser for my android with add-on "adblock" works for me...
Can you tip me off on what she says about this? I am fairly close to ground zero, (Emory)
Has she stayed at certain hotels of late? That could account for the sudden onset of relevant insight as well.
Ebola Inn Express for all our African Travels!
The probability of it being airborne at this stage is around 75%. It is possible that most of the health workers that got the disease, got it before they understood that they were dealing with an EBOLA case, although that probability goes down by the hour, due to the MSM attention to the epidemic. Probably the best way to find out if it went airborne is to find out the relative seat location of the passengers that got the disease in the plane boarded by the first case in Nigeria. A guess can be made by finding out when, and where the Laos doctor that helped with the treatment of the American patient, treated him. No doctor would take the risk of getting in touch with fluids in a case like this.
If the virus is determined to have a probability of 75% of being airborne, the CDC would be criminally negligent if it doesn't communicate this fact immediately to all health personnel that could potentially get involved with an EBOLA case. For most practical purposes this starts with all Clinics/Hospitals near major airline HUBS (Miami, LA, TX, Dallas, Atlanta, Minneapolis, New York, Chicago, Boston, etc.). And soon thereafter every health worker in the USA and abroad.
This said, the isolation level being used to bring the American doctor back to Atlanta is for airborne viruses.
And, I completely agree with the recommendation of your wife, this should be treated in a ship 200 miles away from shore. Althogh, not even that is any warranty, since an airborne virus can travel thousands of miles.
Airborne in a stream of piss...Patrick Sawyer intentionally urinated on the health care workers, so it's no surprise that the doctor is infected.
http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2014/07/ebola-in-nigeriapatrick-sawye...
one incident versus multiple health care workers garbed head to toe in protect-o-wrap. something is worrisome here and it isn't the pissing by a half crazed ebola-man in terminal stage.
" A classic sign of infection by Ebola ... is a certain expression that invariably creeps over the patient's face as the infection progresses. The face become fixed and "expressionless," "masklike," "ghostlike" (in the words of doctors who have seen in), with wide, deadened, "sunken" eyes. The patient looks and sometimes behaves like a zombie." I remember this movie..Been wondering where they got the idea from.
She could be correct. I was reading that it maybe an interim stage of increased trasmissablity from very small amounts of bodily fluids but hasn't yet 'aresolized' yet. I would love to have her take on it.
A few days ago she was iffy on it too until she read about the medical workers contracting it. She knew then and there that it had been aerosolized. She is asking for extra supplies like masks for her clinic.....she may bring a few more home for us too.
A co-worker told me about Ebola in the 90's. At the time I said, this is a joke, right? No joke, he said. Sounded like a nightmare then and it's a nightmare now. The joke's on us.
"My wife thinks its airborne."
It must be, at least a little. The pattern of spread we are witnessing lately seems to require it.
I don't expect the CDC or anyone else to ever admit to that. Doing so would pretty much become the EOTWAWKI over night. The governments of the world are busy behind the scenes keeping a lid on this one, they will take every measure necessary to keep it all sub rosa.
Excellent point. I tend to assume the worst, otherwise I would not have all the necessary things to handle such an outbreak as we do. #redundancy
Ebola scenario that accounts for bringing ebola cases to USA:
[1] Earlier ebola data strongly suggested poor airborne transmission and contagion only when case begins to show symptoms.
Later data and military lab work in USA, USSR, Israel, UK show airborne transmission can be more easily accomplished with simple mutation and also that the virus is transmissible/contageous before case show symptoms.
Recent ebola cases are from mutant strains and are more easily airborne transmissible than the earlier case studies.And likely transmissible by other paths unknown.
[2] The President has been informed that transmission to USA is likely, not remote. Also, there are now more virulent strains.
Study of remedies and mitigating agents is severely handicapped ai African locations by culture/funds/ facilities/ security, personnel and mostly by lack of proper case histories and knowledge/control of each victim. Also, transmission by insect bite is extremely difficult to isolate for study in Africa because insects, etc abound and are uncontrollable.
The best hope is to return to USA known cases of known [can be vetted] American citizens to an optimum study facility. Only certifiable backgrounds of such cases give most promise for success of research and experimental results.
[[4] The Emory U. Medical facility [class 4?] is deliberately near the CDC in Atlanta and is reccommended for this purpose.
Any delay is most dangerous because ebola will spread to here whether we now return these cases for study , or not.
Thus the decision to bring selected cases to Atlanta.
Coincidence. With the news from Mapp Pharma {San Diego}, found this on theor website [LeafBio arm of Mapp]
ASAMRID release 8-2013
http://www.leafbio.com/PettittAug2013.pdf
According to first author James Pettitt of the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), the research team previously demonstrated that the treatment—known as MB-003—protected 100 percent of non-human primates when given one hour after Ebola exposure. Two-thirds of the animals were protected when treated 48 hours after exposure.
In the current study, 43 percent of infected non-human primates recovered after receiving the treatment intravenously 104 to 120 hours after infection. The experimental design differed significantly from the team’s earlier work—this time, infected animals were not treated until they developed measurable symptoms of disease.
More and more the posts like this convince me that the reason they brought it to the USA is because they want to study it, and they want to study it because they expect it to arrive anyway.
IOW they need to study this thing early and try to figure it out, get that $IRA valued jab to prevent infection.
Bringing them back proves it is uncontainable, and the risk to contagion is irrelevant because contagion will happen no matter what. Therefore bring someone back, study under controlled conditions, figure this thing out.
The 2011 study that the BBC published said Ebola traveled between caged animals through large droplets. The droplets to travel to a different cage would have had to be airborn. So there you go, a few hours on a plane with a sick Ebola sufferer? Yes, it can be transmitted through cabin air.
Restonii is 100% airborne, but for some reason is 100% benign to humans.
The strain we are seeing now is probably Zaire, not known to be airborne. The story here is really complicated though, I think Zaire has learned to get around somehow. If it really has become airborne, then we have a really hard time ahead.
"If it’s been officially denied, then it’s probably true"
I have been to Central Africa. They are not stoning the doctors and soon to be troops for nothing.
Has it escaped everyone that the same genocidal doctors from Eugenics/Europe and their ilk still work in the shadows in biomedical fields.
The same oligarchs who supported genocide explicitely with the natives in the Amercas, the slavery of Africa, the Holocaust, and the containment of Asia. Nazi/Eugenic/White mad scientists....
They are speading man made ebola and blaming it on some monkeys/bats/food/the forest..... they have been deveoping these since the 50's with major breakthroughs in genetics in the 1970's .... Ebola/AIDS pops up. Looks like they have a new one test model...airborne.
If monkeys/bats/the forest were to blame, they would already have gotten it. This is injected into the area via covert means.
I have been to Central Africa... the people there have been demolished by Europe/US/Eugenics for going on 500 years now.
We should all be throwing stones.
"...have been demolished by Europe/US/Eugenics..."
LOL, that's why there are only a pitiful remnant of 200 out of every 100 Africans alive in 1990.
No... dummy, this is because resources are falling exponentially, and human pop growth is time lagged, hard to slow....... too many baby boomers too wouldn't you agree?
White men who do not want to share with others, except their tribal/national kin.
Time is short, we need to cull is said everywhere, and well the proof is he headline.
This ebola thing reeks of sabotage and covert ops with the most twisted of goals.
Try looking into the true origins of this Ebola.
.
Hey Hasbarat, learn something about the Atlantic Slave Trade.
http://davidduke.com/another-duke-video-update-the-masters-of-world-slav...
"Asian Containment", you mean like Sassoon(Jewish) and his Opium Wars. Or Rothschilds, Warburgs, Lehmanns, Lazards, Kuhns, Loebs, Seligman, Schiff, Solomon, Montegue, Schroder, Lopez, Medinas and all those Kosher banksters involved in resource and war profiteering. Just like their ethnic contemporaries in the blood diamond trade, sex slave trafficking, organ trafficking, and drug and weapons money laundering and current war profiteering(AIPAC, PNAC, JINSA, IASPS, Defense Policy Board, etc).
http://lyndonlarouche.org/larouche-british5.pdf
Nigerian government employees can't count.
1 + 1 + 1 = 2
(not sure about the other 14 who were initially identified as having contact with Sawyer)
I knew this horrible disease which inhibits the normal function of their mathematical system had infected the the Oil Ministry, but I didn't realize it had spread to the Ministry of Health.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/07/1-out-of-15-airport-contacts-down-wit...
Ebola Reston (EBO-R) has been documented airborne (in a clinical enviroment and from quarantine unit to quarantine unit) and that's clearly what's going on here with all these doctors in hazmat suites becoming infected.
http://web.stanford.edu/group/virus/filo/ebor.html
The fact that the current patients are being transported in negative pressure enviroments (a protocol reserved for airborne illnesses) pretty much confirms that our government thinks it's airborne too.
If it was airborne there would be millions dead, not hundreds.
I am starting to get a bad feeling about this Ebola...
Obola?
Obama?
The one and only!
He will get his revenge on the imperialist west. We are going to be his victims - all of us.
Gonna' make Hitler look like a tinkertoy chump.
Your Cloward-Piven Tax Dollars at Work.
Stress the system to the breaking point.
Upon laying the Cloward-Piven template over current events, everything begins to make sense. There isn't a better explanation for it. I laugh when when people blame the current state of affairs on incompetency or greed.
Airborne and could be spread through fecal matter. It is plausible that Ebola outbreak is from Washington then.
When this SHTF. Synergy!
No shit!
There is no way I trust the numbers coming out of WHO (they probably come out of the same random number generating algo that churns out US economic data). I've read articles that there are just dead bodies in the street rotting in Liberia as well as floating down rivers. Most western medical personel have been evacuated or infected themselves and in a place like Africa you just can't keep track with any degree of accuracy. I'd be willing to bet that several thousand have been infected and we know it's making an attempt to cross into other continents and countries (the guy who died in the airport was on his way to....America.)
This started in March/April. It seems to be spreading pretty damn quick.
I hope this isn't contagious living underground.
One of Liberia's many quaint aspects is the fact that there are ALWAYS dead bodies rotting in the the streets, as well as raw human waste. It is a human leadership wasteland where the citizens have an uncommon taste for cannibalism.
Shit, Liberia used to be a little hidden paradise up to the late 70's. That's when the CIA sent Taylor in and became a living hell on Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yzEHdNSCA
The fact that this was actually an ebola outbreak (vs. other hemorrhagic fever) in West Africa has been known since late February, the first time it showed up on ZH was in late March, about the time it reached Conakry, but they haven't publicized the actual start date and original infection (if they even know).
Give it a little more time. We'll be lucky if it's only millions.
give it time, it just had to mutate..
28 days.
So you can get it from semen. Great. Now I'm gonna get less than zero sex from the wife.
Promise to only put in the tip and pull out before...
... millions dead, not hundreds
Give it time, give it time ...
1 - 8 - 64 - 512 - 4096 - 32,768
This is the result with a 5-step geometric progression where 1 person infects 8 others.
The next iterations are 262,144 and 2,097,152!!
7 iterations, Two-Million plus infected (and 1,258,291 can be presumed dead @ 60% fatality rate)
Math is such a bitch!
This means: Buy Ebola quick for a nice flip on NYSE/NASDAQ/FTSE/NIKKEI/DAX!!!!
do you mind if i use your numbers for the pick 3 and pick 4 lotto today?
I take it you missed it the other day when the virologist slipped up in an interview with Reuters and compared Ebola to the common flu...
Derek Gatherer, a virologist at Britain’s University of Lancaster, said Ebola was not "super-infectious”. Each case is expected to lead to two or three more, similar to a flu outbreak and much lower than diseases like measles, where one case could lead to 12 to 18 more.
You know basic exponents. Impressive. Too bad that has nothing to do with R0 and the rate of transmission of disease.
A journey of a million miles begins with a single step.
This arithmetic-geometric progression is exactly what a virus does when it finally gets going. An initial 1976 outbreak. Then another years later. Then a third, and finally the fourth gets going. It exposes thousands of immune systems to the virus - exactly what virii prefer - and uses that interaction to game the target.
The target being humans, bats and monkeys.
If this stays at the same daily rate of infection then it's just going to be bad and scary for that part of Africa. Thousands dead, going on for months.
If, on the other hand, this progresion continues to increase and we see cases occur globally at air tranport centre hubs, then it's going to be bad for everyone.
Right now this virus is learning to walk. If it mutates again and learns to run, well...
Many here cheer on such an outcome, but I don't think any of us will want to live in that world.
I suppose that the worse will last only 3-8 weeks in your area and move on is a comfort. Look at the 1918 September Pandemic. It's only 3 weeks, but all of a sudden you notice that a whole LOT of people are gone and there are front loaders digging holes at the edge of town.
Buy rec: steam shovels?
June 30 death toll 400 july 30 toll 800. August 30 maybe 1600?
I would bet the over.
I have consistently laughed at models predicting future African human population explosions (to the upside). There is simply too much disease and war.
"If it was airborne there would be millions dead, not hundreds."
It only recently found it's way into urban areas. Give it time.
Give it time. Just had the first 4 cases in Lagos with a city of 21 million.
60 days from now there very well could be millions dead.
Every bit of the bodily waste is infectious. Bad disposal is just as possible. Infectious people sneezing on you not so likely in the clinical setting. Think about all the toxic poop that must be disposed of
Can the virus be spread during the incubation period or only when the victim is presenting symptoms?
with ebola, a single virus particle is enough to infect. Google it before you give me -ves pls :) - scientific papers only.
It is an RNA based virus and thus, is transmissible at any time.
So said the Reston papers
Carbon dioxide, sweat, dandruff, dead hair, and urine (all forms of bodily waste) are completely harmless to those with any kind of normal immune response. It is only fecal matter that has to be deposed properly.
You pulled that out of the same place your fecal matter comes from.
Vichy DC?
I'm fuzzy on the whole good bad thing. What do you mean bad?
The plot is thick...and it thickens.
Lot's has been said about this very kind of time, this very vector....
Are we in the time of smokeless fires now?
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2014/08/03/quotable-quotes-e-bola-di-ebo...
"Diablo" = Devil in Spanish
"Diavolo" in Italian (IIRC)
Si amigo, I had that in my mind as I was titling...
El Diablo...see..... Ebola is right there in it.
Innit?
If we start getting illegal Innuit with exotic diseases slipping across our northern border...
there are folk tales from Middle Ages in Europe of black cloaked wraiths appearing when the black death arrived. Of course, "modern" people dismiss that as superstitious non-sense... ignoring the bigger picture of events that have played out over very long periods of time...
is this how they plan to birth the NWO? the depopulation meme has been around long enough. And certainly it shows up over an over in popular culture, but can we know the source of this idea?
reminds me of this one I read as a kid, the stand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stand
http://fox8.com/2014/07/26/on-a-mission-mysterious-woman-in-black-treks-...
john39, lore, tales and myth from literally every civilization as well as prehistory have had the very same illusions/imagery.
Our temporally oriented neighbors discount anything of the sort as fictitious.
Doesn't fit within the purview of their temporal materialistic sensibilities.... Heavens, they still believe the whole academy's explanation of the universe and a non electrical magnetic gravity based relationship while discounting the realities of the quantum.... They can't even get science right....
If it was so, it would not be so prevalent.
Any more than the great flood or cosmic battles amongst the planets themselves (ref Electric Universe and Quantum Extensions thereto)
Electric universe. Now we're starting to get it....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9EPlyiW-xGI
(from 45 min for summary, but the whole thing is very very interesting. *warning contains actual science)
BINGO!
Knukles- they use true knowledge as power, and always keep the masses baffled with bullshit. I totally agree on your point, we live in a quantum (read, conscious) universe. the implications are staggering, which is why "they" ridicule this type of knowledge at every turn. They have to keep the masses ignorant to retain control.
its sad actually, but ancient people were a lot closer to the truth... which is why more modern (read controlled) cultures have waged an unending war to destroy traditional cultures and knowledge. then you get shit like ancient aliens where they sell one lie after another, all to keep people from the truth.
BINGO!
From the Quantum, extending to the Cosmic via the Electric Universe... a Conscious Universe
It demands virtually all scientific foundations (As proposed today) be radically overturned, revised, redirected.
Just think of the thousands of governmental and academic scientists and educators.... who would loose their jobs.
The ridicule and push-back is astounding.
Just a fun one: So nothing travels faster then the speed of light (Original proposition) in a gravitationally driven universe.
Sorry, but Saturn, the Earth and Sun all know every moment in real time where each is.... in spite of the 75 minutes it takes light from the sun to reach Saturn....
Tachyons...
Black holes ejecting energy
The shape of solar "explosions" as opposed to circular, show do-nut and polar energy discharge relations ... just like an electro-magnetic torus... oh my....
I think it is still smokeless cigarettes time.
As a smoker, I find that the ultimate oxymoron.
Smoking is all about the smoke. It's in the name for heavens sake !!!
I tried vaping after my g/f picked up a cheap vapour device. Stopped smoking that very day. Astounding. (though be forewarned - this is a world that seems to rather full of douchebags reviewing stuff on youtube. Vanilla custard tastes a damn sight better than Marlboro though!)
btw, thanks for link to your ebola post ORI, a light in dark places :)
http://www.sott.net/article/283129-Scientists-stumble-across-the-obvious...
INteresting read, not syaing its ture or I beLIEve it, just food for thought
Don't worry, folks- it's not airborne. We in the government have got this thing under control.
We are here to help, folks.
Get your mandatory shot, and you are good to go.
Is that vaccine or lead?
If you refuse one option you get the other.
Always save the last one for yourself.
It was certainly airborne for a bit there, until the lane landed, at least.
Transmission not airborne, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Troops being deployed solves everything folks. How can anything possibly go wrong?
Nothing can go wrong because troops can't get ebola. They passed a law, afterall.
Troops and medical personnel can move freely in and out of the infection zone, only residents will be stopped. Well, okay, but seems the medical personnel are being regularly infected at this point, including the 2 Obammie just brought here.
Move along now folks, Nothing to see here. Ad Nauseum.
Give it 6 months.
6 weeks
It'll never reach the light of day. A "gas explosion" will take out the ground zero area, until its already spreading out of control. Then we'll get a lot of hoocodanode.
I would grant this scenario even odds of happening.
And the 6 weeks time frame is in no way outlandish.
A surprising number of physicians and nurses in England are from NIGERIA. OOPS!
The ONLY reason the African from Liberia who was an "American" as is his wife and 4 children didn't make it back to the US was he DIED before he could board the plane,
"Patrick Sawyer, 40, was planning to return home to Coon Rapids, Minnesota, to be reunited with his children for two of his daughters’ birthdays in August."
Incurable TB coming with the invaders from South of the Border, along with bacterial pneumonia, chagas, chikungunya virus, Scabies, Whooping Cough, BED BUGS, Chicken pox, and a few dozen others, seems to indicate that .gov WANTS this in the USA. Now add Ebola, and you have a perfect storm. One which furthers the ULTIMATE GOAL, of the PUPPETMASTERS, i.e. the genocide of the White race. The more you know about the history of the Puppetmasters, and their 3,000 year HATRED of the White race well, they also have their German supplied nuclear armed attack Dolphin submarines just in case they can't do it this way.
I totaly agree with the "genocide of the white race" thing but lets be honest, it's not the whites that are going to bear the brunt of this, if anything if ebola hits the USSA it's going to be a MASSIVE minority de-population, not white.
Generally speaking, minorties of all races tend to live closer together, in environments that are not as clearn, large families and extended families living together, sometimes multiple families living together, their lower future time orientation means they don't take pre-cautions until it's too late, more promiscious, etc, etc etc.
This is going to be a minority bloodbath.