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Russia Launches Massive Bomber, Warplane Drill On Ukraine Border As Over 400 Ukraine Soldiers Defect

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It has been a while since Russia flexed its military "drill" muscles along the Ukraine border as a reminder of just who would win a pissing contest that involves military intervention.  Which is probably why earlier today Russia announced new military exercises involving bombers and fighter jets in a show of strength near the border with Ukraine. As Reuters reported, "an air force spokesman was quoted by Interfax news agency as saying more than 100 planes and helicopters would take part in the manoeuvres from Monday until Friday in its central and western districts." Expect some very dramatic footage of Russian Su-34s and Mi-28Ns hitting YouTube later today.

From Reuters:

The spokesman, Igor Klimov, said the exercises were the first in a series to improve coordination in the military and made no mention of Ukraine, where pro-Russian rebels are fighting Ukrainian government forces.

Sure: all purely coincidental.

The move is likely to alarm Western powers which have accused Russia of beefing up the number of troops along its border with Ukraine and arming the rebels in eastern Ukraine. Moscow denies supplying the rebels with weapons.


Klimov said aircraft such as Su-27 and MiG-31 fighter jets, Russia's newest frontline bomber Su-34, and Mi-8, Mi-24 and Mi-28N helicopters would be used in the exercises and the aircraft would conduct missile practice.

The aircraft will be testing "aircraft weapons on land and air targets on new ranges, and will be conducting real and electronic launches of anti-aircraft missiles in Ashuluk (Astrakhan region in southern Russia) which is specifically designed to aide the coordination between aviation and anti-missile defence", he was quoted as saying.


Russia's Defence Ministry could not immediately be reached for comment.

Cure more hashtags, redlines and maybe even sanctions, although not against Gazprom. Never against Gazprom. And then the logical countersactions as Putin clearly could care less about the west at this point.

And in other news, an official from Russia's FSB security service in the Rostov region, said that more than 400 Ukrainian military personnel requested refugee status from Russian border guards on Monday and Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has opened a corridor for the soldiers, according to RIA Novosti. "Overnight 438 Ukrainian military personnel turned to Russian border guards with a request for refugee [status],” the head of the FSB’s border control in the southern Russian region of Rostov, Vasily Malaeyev, said.

This follows the Sunday defection of 12 soldiers from the Ukrainian Armed Forces into Russia, who applied for asylum at Gukovo checkpoint in Russia’s Rostov Region, saying they had run out of food and ammunition.


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Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:35 | 5043311 LawsofPhysics
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This is former Russian territory with many ethic Russians, if they want to spend their capital and resources on bringing order to the region, let them.

(we already have many CIA and black ops guys in the area to provide a full report anyway)

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:44 | 5043344 Ignatius
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"The 'duality' of what?  Son, why don't you hop on board and come on in for the big win."  -- Full Metal Jacket

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:46 | 5043355 Save_America1st
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wow, this must really "enrage" John Lurch Kerry for such an insulting slap in the face.  How can Putin be so rude after Lurch had brought peace to Ukraine while fixing Israel and curing ebola. 

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:49 | 5043371 Tao 4 the Show
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I suspect that the game being played by both sides is more Machiavellian than any of us can imagine. Little is as it seems.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:01 | 5043408 Beam Me Up Scotty
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I remember when I was a kid wondering if WW3 was going to start between East and West Germany.  It's probably already started, we will know for sure when we have 30 minutes left to live or less.  Never thought it would be between east and west Ukraine.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:03 | 5043417 Latina Lover
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Time for the Ukies to become a normal country, instead of childishly attacking Russia.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:07 | 5043438 813kml
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Are you inferring that the US isn't normal?

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:10 | 5043451 Latina Lover
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My Russian and Ukrainian friends always talk about how things are done in a 'normal' country.

To me, the US was a decent country until after 2001, when it became the worlds most aggressive nation.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:33 | 5043541 Renfield
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That was so funny I scared my cat by laughing. THIS - my friends - is how propaganda is properly done. Putin actually looks good with his shirt off. And maybe as a woman I shouldn't be noticing this but his wife is actually a hottie too. Propaganda but way funny so thanx.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:32 | 5043942 lakecity55
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Blowjob Barry.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 14:01 | 5044732 MarsInScorpio
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So the Ukrainian Army is running out of food and ammo - gee, I wonder if that would be enough pressure to cause them to shoot down a civilian airliner in a desparate attempt to spin world opinion against the Freedom Fighters?


At this point, it appears nearly certain that the Uke SU-25 (one or two) shot down the airliner. Enough experts have agreed that those holes in the cockpit area, and the grazes along the wing, are proof that a .30 cal. aircraft weapon took the airliner down.


After all, where are the ATC tapes? Where is Carlos the TC? Where are the US satellite photos over the area at exactly the time of the attack? Why does the airliner not look like a BUK missle exploded near it? What is on the "Black Box" cockpit recordings?


The list goes on and on.


This is great news - defecting soldiers. The fact that they fled to Russia tells me that they feared for their lives if they merely put down their arms and went back home - the Right Sector neo-Nazis no doubt have put that fear into their heads, and they know those blood-thirsty animals will pull the trigger.


So, you go Freedom Fighters - thanks to the Internet creating the inability of the CIA/ECB/FED/IMF/NYT gangsters to keep the truth out of the world's hands, you are going to win your freedom, and preserve your lives from Kiev's "ethnic cleansing" plans.



PS: .gov trolls . . . burn in Hell.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 16:31 | 5045599 PhilofOz
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This is one of the best articles I've seen on the subject, Mike Whitney. ....

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 16:35 | 5045630 SilverTech
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Bathhouse Barry.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 14:31 | 5044905 ZerOhead
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Awesome composition...

I can't get over Obamas legs... they are literally twigs!

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 16:33 | 5045624 PhilofOz
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I just don't believe they can be that bad... photoshopped like his ears surely.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:00 | 5043713 Rootin' for Putin
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The ukies dont have what it takes to become a normal country.   Even less so with the west trying to help them find democracy at every turn.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:07 | 5043437 Gazooks
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neolib/con globalist endgame mantra -




There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.

Niccolo Machiavelli


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:23 | 5044197 Freddie
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Hopefully more young men will decide to avoid fighting in the bankster wars.  The Ukie grunts need to shoot their officers then go after the dual citizen oligarchs in Kiev.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 13:05 | 5044431 MeetTozter
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I think you are half right.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:02 | 5043411 Smegley Wanxalot
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The Oblowhard admin released this statement:

. . . . . . . #BringBackOurDefectors

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 15:12 | 5045063 Rootin' for Putin
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Awesome, almost makes me want to signup for twitter just to troll with that

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:14 | 5043425 Son of Captain Nemo
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"The 'duality' of what?  Son, why don't you hop on board and come on in for the big win."  -- Full Metal Jacket

In the context of what is unfolding "I", it doesn't get any better than the quote you just used.  Once a "loser" always a loser... Case in point I thoroughly enjoyed reading ISIS giving credit where credit is due, because if you can't control it then smash it to hell some more so nobody else can have it either.  The U.S. government's new motto for labeling it's success.

I think it's safe to say before too long with our string of misadventures in the Middle East and now Eastern Europe we're going to look at Full Metal Jacket as the the glory dayz of our "war machine" because that's how pathetic we've become!

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:44 | 5043345 Tao 4 the Show
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Ukraine, or at least the east part of it seem to be non negotiable for Russia. The question has always been how they get there (to the point of annexing it). Crimea was easy and elegant, the rest - probably not so much.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:51 | 5043378 BlindMonkey
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5 ears from now the entire country of Ukraine will return to being a vassal state of the RF. The Nazis seem to be hell bent on ripping the place to shreds. How many Ukie boys are going to die before the Army of Babushkas take matters into their hands and turn the Nazis out.

The Babuska is a force in Slavic culture and I have seen many videos of their ire about taking the boys out of the villages.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:56 | 5043391 Tao 4 the Show
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The scary part is that both sides see Ukraine as a lynchpin. Russia cannot win without it, the west cannot control Europe without it. All this is nested within bigger plans that are not so obvious yet. I do not think all this is theater, as some people do. It is a big stakes game and affects us all.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:57 | 5043399 BlindMonkey
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Babuskas don't care about geopolitics. The Ukraine was peaceful under the wing of the RF. The Nazis/NATO/US have shown they don't care about Ukraine lives. This is something the Babuskas care about.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:11 | 5043461 Ghordius
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"The West cannot control Europe without it" Freudian slip? Define "The West". Some British media are already defining it as the US and the UK, and "Europe" as the Continent. Not exactly the usage of 25 years ago...

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:40 | 5043580 Poundsand
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The US doesn't see Ukraine as a lynchpin...  The US is using Ukraine, the only thing holding the US reserve currency is the threat of force at this point, either via sanctions, fines, courts, or the US military.  The US is using that force on different actors differently.  Russia actually has a military, unlike France (courts and fines), Argentian (courts), Iraq & Syria (withholding force), and Russia and China (the posturing of force).  The US could care less about Ukraine, it's just the field it chose to posture on.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:27 | 5044223 Freddie
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The USA, like the Ukraine, is not a real govt.  It is something that is owned by the dual citizen oligarchs like Soros.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:26 | 5044225 swmnguy
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Actually, Zbigniew Brzezinski has seen Ukraine as the linchpin for a long time.  And the goal is to break Russia up into smaller, more easily-controlled states that don't trust each other.  "Balkanization" used to be the word for this.  Now it might be better put as "Middle-Easternization."

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:05 | 5043427 Ghordius
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"This is former Russian territory with many ethic Russians..."

and you just put the finger in the biggest "wound". because there is a lot of former Russian territory with many ethnic Russians all around the frigging place, and some of it is in the Baltic Nations, and so in the NATO, the EU and even the eurozone

to which I still blame the US and UK "push" for enlargement of NATO (and it's "sweetener", the EU), which I and many others always opposed

but now, if you read the British press, it's all forgotten, and the UK is itself on the brink of leaving the mess it pushed to create. Thank you, Albion the Fairest

and so now we continentals have brethens we are duty-bound to keep from treating their Russian citizens badly or as second-class and, at the same time, to protect from Russian "return to the Motherland" calls. which of course makes US protection... welcome. Again, thank you, Albion the Forgetful

and at the same time we have to keep Poland from pushing things in Ukraine, and Hungary's gov is going "against liberal values", and, and, and...

well, at least Polish workers fixed some of Britain's most rotten plumbing. must be a help for the holy cow on that island: it's real estate market

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:40 | 5043588 desirdavenir
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LEAP/GEAB has been advocating for at least 6 years that the future of Europe is a partnership with Russia, and that english will be a dying language in the european institutions. Their call used to be completely unbelievable, and has now come to possible. 

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:45 | 5043621 Fíréan
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"BREEZE 2014"

(Reuters) - Seven NATO countries completed naval exercises in the Black Sea on Thursday,  (17th july 2014) . . . .

Led by the Bulgarian navy, the 10-day drills aimed to improve tactical coordination of allied units "in a multi-threat environment," NATO has said. Vessels took part from Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey, Greece, Italy, Britain and the United States.

"The navy exercises BREEZE 2014 successfully concluded," a Bulgarian defense ministry spokesman said. The Romanian Navy said exercises involved commercial traffic monitoring, reaction to asymmetric threat warnings, anti-submarine warfare and artillery firing.


Italian Navy, the team comprises Italian Navy vessels, including the ITS Aviere frigate and ITS Rimini, in addition to the Turkish Navy's TCG AKÇAY and the UK Navy's HMS Chiddingfold.

Other countries involved include Romania, Greece and the US

"Our deployment is a clear demonstration of our commitment to [the] alliance's strong solidarity and collective defence."


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:36 | 5043963 Urban Redneck
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If the only EUcrats had bothered come up with an expulsion mechanism (or even an officially sanctioned exit plan) either at conception, or when the abominations of Greece and Cyprus reared their ugly heads, then there would at least be some additional options at this point...

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:45 | 5044004 LawsofPhysics
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They actually do have "rules for expulsion" in place.  They are just being ignored.  Much like the U.S., there is no "rule of law" in this feudal landscape.  I am sure Ghordis can explain...

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:02 | 5044036 Ghordius
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UR, nope, there lies madness. I don't have to explain to you the difference between Federation and Confederation. If we were hellbent to federative principles, then I would agree with you. But our Nations are too different to even contemplate seriously a Federation, even as a distant goal in the future

and while confederative institutions have their quirks, they usually prevent any "gang up" on smaller participants

Greece and Cyprus still don't want to leave. the club's doors are open, but nobody will throw anybody out. and this applies to the Baltics, too

I could go further and note that we did let the UK in, in the same spirit and against reasonable warnings which weren't that much off the mark

(in a deep theater voice:)

As Leonidas said to his men, the question is not for whom we are going to die, the question is who we are

though he probably very laconically just quoted the old Spartan "Gnothi seauton"

you live in Switzerland, don't you? remember, that Confederation is our template and our "best case study" in one

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:31 | 5044252 LawsofPhysics
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I seem to remember distinct capital and collateral requirements when the E.Z. was first established, especially with respect to who could play/trade as an "E.U. member".  All bullshit apparently.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:40 | 5044295 Urban Redneck
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A confederation is, at its most basic, is a voluntary union, despite the proclivity here to call it an eternal union.

Why cannot, or should not, a mechanism for expulsion exist- short of simple dissolution and reconstitution of the alliance without the offending member?

Switzerland has not gone to war with a foreign State since the Congress of Vienna but it has gone to war with itself and among the Cantons more recently and since it stopped being a true Confederacy and began down the path to it's current bastard quasi-federal state. Why can't you all on the other side of the hill learn from our mistakes instead of repeating them? It's likely to take at least a couple decades of the Federal Legislature overstepping its mandate and having the citizens claw back their freedom one referendum/encroachment at a time before any movement for substantial restrictions on the Federal beast are seriously pursued.

You display a symbol of European Federation, while I display the standard of a Canton that was expelled from the Eidgenossenschaft (Confederation) in 1440.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 15:41 | 5045230 Ghordius
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my avatar? well, it's more or a challenge from when I joined ZH's commentariat and lots of bs was written by megabank analysts

but no, I disagree, for me it's the symbol of a confederative institution, and one that it's not even really part of the EU. with informal members like the CHF, as you know, through the floor

the Swiss civil war was utterly avoidable if the catholic Cantons would have been allowed to leave, wouldn't it? You do tap in the right place: it's all about avoiding war among us

so the door is open for leavers and the door is open for joiners, or (in grandma's screechy tones) "we'll never hear the end of it".

because involuntary joining or leaving is a casus belli

so yes, forcing in or forcing out is the unforgivable, most undiplomatic thing to do (mutter comment on American diplomacy)


what freedoms had the citizens taken away from the EU? remember that most of our EU "stuff" is commercial regulation, nothing else then a compromise common regulatory environment instead of the original 15 regulatory environments. in many countries this resulted in less regulation than in the previous, national case

that confederate "beast" is still a council of national ministers, an elected parliament that is very, very pluralistic, and a burocracy of 30'000, without army, navy, airforce, police, intelligence services and so on. compare to Germany's federal beast, and you'll note marked differences

btw, I don't even like the EU. too much "like the US" in too many approaches. I'd prefer a far more modular design, all based on institutions like the ECB, wich has a very limited, focused scope


fascinating. they got expelled? have to look it up, but as a "staunch popist" I already suspect Ayatollah Zwingli and his Theocratic Regime was the reason (wild guess and way too early, but hey, that's how my mind works)

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 17:03 | 5045789 Urban Redneck
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To make a long story short, the other Cantons kicked out Zürich and then went to war with it, as opposed to the usual modus operandi of the Cantons just going to war with each other without the pleasantries and formalities. Nobody's perfect, but too few give peace a chance.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 17:30 | 5045959 Ghordius
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but Z's mayor allied himself with the Hapsburgs! Unforgivable! Of corse they had to throw an Imperial ally out, or just formalize what that betrayal was about

It's like Texas, California or Alaska inviting Chinese and Russian troops, ICBMs and military bases

a definite escalation from a simple territorial squabble

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 18:17 | 5046190 Urban Redneck
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The Confederate States of America sought an unholy alliance with the Queen of England in the 1860s (after they seceded).

And half a century earlier the slimy frogs west of here made a deal with that little devil from Corsica (before they brought down the Confederation).

Desperation makes for poor bedfellows, look how low the US is stooping now, no kiss from a fairy tale prince could ever turn these urchins into "respectable" kleptocrats.

If Texas ever grows into its ten gallon hat, I would fully expect it to seek alliances with both Russia and China, and until they admit to that truth, they won't be ready to secede.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 17:01 | 5045783 SDShack
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The EU is like The Hotel California... You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. Seriously, what you are asking for is impossible in the sociopathic banker world. To exit means the end of the Ponzi.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 18:23 | 5046213 Urban Redneck
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The ponzi could be maintained if the exit is ransomed, and the bill then quietly written off or passed on to the remaining serfs at a later date. If we just had greedy bankers, instead of sociopathic bankers, it might be practicable.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:48 | 5048440 tonyw
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"...we continentals have brethens we are duty-bound to keep from treating their Russian citizens badly or as second-class..."

and just what is the EU doing about this? have they condemned ukraine for killing the people in odessa, condemned ukraine for banning the russian language, condemned ukraine for shelling towns in the east ....  i haven't heard anything at all let alone stop this or else.

Without an "or else" anything is just talk, even a small child soon leanrs that unless there is some sort of action they can ignore threats.



Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:23 | 5043520 Winston of Oceania
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It is about energy and nothing more, the Ukrainians don't even make enough to tax much.  Well outside of Crimea anyways...

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:35 | 5043316 christofay
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Look, over there, food, and the Ukrainian troops move with alacrity for the first time in years

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:55 | 5043368 Headbanger
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Yeah, that plus this thing called Winter that starts in just a few months.

And I bet our Fucktard in Chief starts a real war with Russia before November to help his fellow lib-tards stay in office


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:59 | 5043403 BlindMonkey
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Don't see it happening. Dibold machines don't work when the EMPs go boom.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:41 | 5043332 the phantom
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I'd put the over/under for the Ukies completely giving up at one month.  Poroshenko's chocolates are not going to keep them warm in the coming winter on the front-lines of an IMF/EU/US proxy war. 

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:47 | 5043357 Utah_Get_Me_2
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The 'Ukies' who aren't complete fascist lunatics will give up for sure.

The rabid neo-Nazi Svoboda/Right Sector types will continue to be very well armed and fed courtesy of the US taxpayer.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:52 | 5043383 Winston Churchill
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Strelkov ordered no right sector/Svoboda prisoners be taken as of yesterday.

Sounds like a kill everyone, and ask questions later type order.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:02 | 5043412 BlindMonkey
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Unless you saw something else, that order applied to one brigade that turned over nearly dead men, that had been beaten to the point of not being expected to live ,in a prisoner exchange. That is legal in laws of war. I do not think it applied to the larger army though.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:11 | 5043462 Winston Churchill
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Never felt the bloodlust of war have you ?

Once an order like that is given , there is no controlling it.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:18 | 5043490 BlindMonkey
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Fair point I guess. I was on a sub so we really didn't do that "expectation of taking prisoners" thing.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:24 | 5043525 socalbeach
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The officers of one brigade.


Militia DND found evidence that Ukrainians were tortured prisoners (video)

We exchanged eight bodies paratroopers on 20 of the dead militiamen. Three bodies had traces of tortures. The exchange took place on neutral territory, then our brothers were buried, - said the Deputy of the DND Valery Lopenik.

According to him, the exchange was held on the initiative of the Ukrainian security forces. They wanted to take away the body of his deceased officer, so even concessions. Information that Ukrainian security forces torturing prisoners, also confirmed defense Minister DND Igor Strelkov. He declared about it after the exchange of the two prisoners to militia the two paratroopers from the 25th air cavalry brigade.

- Our threw as bags: broken all the bones, repulsed the insides, the probability that it will survive almost zero... Creature! It not the national guard under this Dnipropetrovsk landing. Consider. He was ordered not to capture any officer 25th, said Strelkov.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:36 | 5043569 Kamath
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Time for the Nazi scum in Ukraine to die already. >:(

They are attacking peaceful ethnic Russians who just wanted a greater say about how things are run in their own regions.

Oh, also time for the Western scum that have financed this to burn in Hell. I truly hope there will one day be a second Nüremberg trial, where the entire Western elite is given due process in a court of law by the people, and hung to their death if guilty. They care nothing about other people's lives. >:( >:(

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:13 | 5044143 Urban Redneck
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See the comments -- I can't make heads or tails over the debate of the translation of "officer" much less the conclusion. Might help if I spoke Russian, but that isn't an order that any officer wants to give.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 13:59 | 5044640 socalbeach
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I had read in several other places it only applied to officers, but yes, the links you and I posted aren't  that clear. I just posted the first link I found today, as I hadn't bookmarked the other ones.

edit, found this:

And now for the sad part. On August 1, the Militia and the Ukrainian army exchanged their dead and prisoners near Shakhtersk. A preliminary examination has revealed that four of the dead were finished off in a barbaric fashion – with a knife. The fifth was strangled. The exchange of prisoners was even more terrifying – two live militiamen were returned to the Militia with the heaviest of injuries, broken bones, and beaten to a pulp lungs and viscera. The medics have already pronounced that there is nothing they can do – people were practically beaten to death.

The Commande-in-Chief gave an order – [officers] of the punitive 25th Brigade are not to be taken prisoner – and took the responsibility himself. Commanders conducting exchange negotiations with the Nazis were instructed immediately to report this to the commander of the 25th Brigade. In my opinion, this decision is absolutely justified. Crimes of this nature should receive an adequate response.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:05 | 5044103 Razor_Edge
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Oder applies only to the officers of that brigade and Stelkov instructed that this order be communicated to the officers of this brigade in future prisoner exchanges.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:09 | 5043450 sushi
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The Ukies and the rebels performed a prisoner exchange recently. The prisoners turned over by the Ukr Armed Forces had been beaten to a pulp, their lungs collapsed, with serious head wounds such that it is unlikely they will live.

Given that treatment of rebel prisoners the rebel leader has announced no Ukr Armed FOrces officers will be taken prisoner. He wants to hold them responsible for the maltreatment of POWs.

One of the problems is thet western MSM is operating once again in Judith Miller mode and providing unbalanced covereage of events in Ukraine. Where else would you find a neo-nazi government publicly promoting genocide and crushing citizens like Colorado beetles which is Supported by Kerry and the USSA 1%.

When Muammar Gaddafi unleashed his armed forces on his civilian population the west declared a responsibilty to portect and jumped into the conflict to defeat him. When the Ukraine government unleashes its armed forces on its civilian population the USSA made them allies.

If you think this will end well you need to take a look at Af-Pak, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Georgia, Iran, and all the otehr places the USSA has meddled with.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:46 | 5043624 Oh regional Indian
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"When Muammar Gaddafi unleashed his armed forces on his civilian population the west declared a responsibilty to portect and jumped into the conflict to defeat him."


What a load of propaganda bullshit. Unleashed his forces on his population.

That is why they loved him so much...

Comment below the video....

 "I don't know what to add...I was in Lybia for more than 7 years, from the beginning of 2002 to the half 2009 and that is what I have lived on my skin. You are free to believe or not"

Hypocircy abounds, double standards all around.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:19 | 5043839 lakecity55
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Kadaffy did not unleash his forces on civilians, Hillary.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 13:12 | 5044473 morongobill
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He specifically mentioned officers.

In their recent prisoner swap, the Ukrainians walked back under their own power, the rebels returned had basically been beaten into pulp, and doubts that they would live long.

There should be consequences for that and the privates and noncoms shouldn't be the only ones paying.



Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:19 | 5043495 NoWayJose
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Good points about the rabid types.  Hamas is a lot like this, where there are not enough Palestinians  ready to invade Israel, but there are enough rabid Hamas types capable of shooting rockets for years and years.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:41 | 5043594 general ambivalent
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The chocolate rations will increase by 200 a month!

(After being decreased by 201 a month.)

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:42 | 5043341 orangegeek
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my money is on the drones

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:44 | 5043346 Sudden Debt
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nice camo... you hardly see it in a blue sky...

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:51 | 5043377 Thunderbox
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that camo blends well when parked in the woods near an off ramp of some highway just over the border.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:20 | 5043498 Sudden Debt
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now when landing on a highway... in russia...

there kind of are like these little peble stones on and next to the road...

and when a plane like that takes off...

your engines will look like Swiss cheeze.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:28 | 5043538 BlindMonkey
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Sukhoi already thought of that. They have these adorable little titanium mesh screens that pop up and protect the engines when landing. Very clever.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:52 | 5043381 813kml
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I always wondered about that, seems like that paint job would only be effective in making the wreckage difficult to find.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:28 | 5043537 Calmyourself
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In a dogfight the plane blends with the earth seen from above, bottom paint scheme blends with the sky..

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:17 | 5043816 lakecity55
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The Bath House has ordered all US aircraft camouflaged in International Orange.

Top and  Bottom.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:08 | 5044120 adeptish
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Autumn/Fall camo colors? Say, like you get in September/October...

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:46 | 5043352 papaswamp
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Watch for a false flag event as Russian backed 'rebels' shoot down Russian plane and blame Ukraine prompting Russia to attack into Ukraine.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:59 | 5043405 roadhazard
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It will not be any false flag, those drunk rebels with rockets will shoot at anything. MH17 case in point.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:13 | 5043472 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It will not be any false flag, those drunk rebels with rockets will shoot at anything. MH17 case in point.

Case in pointless is more like it.

This guy must start chugging the Vichy DC kool-aid as soon as he gets out of bed.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:23 | 5043519 roadhazard
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This place is more Tyler Putin than Tyler Durden.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:29 | 5043543 BlindMonkey
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If it wasn't for the fact that your job is to be a professional troll you would probably keep moving on to the next blog eh?

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:09 | 5043765 roadhazard
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Anyone that doesn't spew the right wing line here is a troll. It's OK, I think most of you are lemming morons so we're even.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:46 | 5044318 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Still firmly planted in the left/right paradigm I see... How's that working out for you?

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 14:15 | 5044823 roadhazard
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Tell it to a right winger.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:34 | 5043563 The Blank Stare
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Go back to FOX and CNN if you want to get the story that fits your black and white view of the world.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:10 | 5043777 roadhazard
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blank stare is a good handle for you. It goes with your "unique" posts.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:14 | 5043803 lakecity55
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Begone, Kool-Aid drinker!

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 14:17 | 5044828 roadhazard
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KMA , winger

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:54 | 5044369 The Blank Stare
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 14:18 | 5044833 roadhazard
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So why do you insist on doing it.


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:02 | 5043415 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Based on the way the Russian Federation has responded to every provaction thus far (like multi-dimensional chess master) if that is indeed their move they'll likely send in 'Alpha Group' 

Covertly kill an entire Ukrainian anti-aircraft unit, shoot down an unmanned surveillance plane, then promptly drop a payload of guided missiles on the anti-aircraft unit. Blame the coup-govt and start rolling T-90s into Donetsk and Donbass.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:08 | 5043441 papaswamp
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..or that. Hence my 'rebels' since I thought it would be Russians pulling the trigger. But seizing a Ukrainian battery would be much smarter...which would be quickly destroyed in retaliation thus covering 'tracks'.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:20 | 5043504 Utah_Get_Me_2
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I don't believe the RF will have to do this however.. The McCainiac Neo-Nazis need only be filmed lining up all fighting aged males from a small village and shooting them into a shallow ditch and that will be all the justification the RF needs to send 60,000 troops.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:47 | 5043632 WhyWait
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"Watch for a false flag event..."

This is the "they're just like us so they'll do what we do" model.  Which might be right, a possible model to consider, but does the evidence support it?   Without evidence, it's just one step above a "two guys in a bar" model.

Some questions to you, and to the whole list:

We've seen a lot of "false flag" events in the last 20 years, and in Ukraine in tle last six months.  How many have been Russian?  Is there any evidence that this is their M.O.?

Russia has had the capability of overrunning Ukraine since the beginning, and certainly with all the killings of Russian-speakers in February and continuing, and the overthrow by armed anti-Russian thugs of an elected government with which they'd just made a deal they had motives and excuses to intervene.  Why would they need a false flag event now?

To pull off a false flag event requires control of the media.  The problem for Russia in struggling to put their side of the Maylaysian airliner story forward is that the US, while no longer credible in the minds of most regular people, is still presumed to know and be telling the truth by most of the world's governments and media, while Russia has to struggle to get its side of a story heard at all.  It's not as bad yet as it was during the Cold War, when for example often not one word of what Breshnev or Khrushchev actually said would be repeated by the Western media, which would instead report only what their "pundits" said about what they "really meant", but we're getting closer.  So why, on this tilted playing field, would Russia risk getting exposed and pilloried for a big lie?

Finally, how would a false flag event to justify a war fit into Russia's larger strategy, not widely known in the US but which should be familiar to regular readers of ZH and a few other sites? (See for example

Our ability to predict events depends on sharpening our ability to think about things like this.  You might want to  pick one of these questions, and share how you're thinking about it.


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:40 | 5043977 Rock On Roger
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No think, just yap.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:54 | 5043354 Winston Churchill
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Any confirmation on the report of the RF mobilizing its reserves ?

Just in time for the NATO joint excercises in Ukraine in September, if true, to free up the

front line troops.

This momo is going to be hard to stop soon.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:11 | 5043786 lakecity55
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ZATO is having pot-smoking FTX's?

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:47 | 5043362 replaceme
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The Russians have F22s?  I recognize 2 of the 3 planes shown above, but wwhat is the 3rd (the F22 clone)?

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:49 | 5043367 Winston Churchill
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Thats a Concordski.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:05 | 5043398 medium giraffe
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Nah, it's a brainwave controlled Firefox piloted by Komrade Eastwoodski.




(Sukhoi PAK FA T-50: //// )

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:59 | 5043406 papaswamp
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Sukhoi T50

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:08 | 5043447 doomandbloom
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Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:05 | 5043428 BlindMonkey
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"I recognize 2 of the 3 planes shown above, but wwhat is the 3rd (the F22 clone)?"

I hope the Russians are smarter than to clone a F22.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:47 | 5043363 toady
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He who surrenders first surrenders best.

If they get into Russia quickly they can start hoarding food before winter.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:09 | 5043767 lakecity55
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If you are currently in the US Armed Forces, Backdoor Barry will deploy you, then lay your ass off so you get no pay or benefits as soon as you are in theatre. If you get KIA, which I am sure he strongly desires, he does not have to pay survivor benefits since you were laid off before you were whacked.

You guys can continue to embrace the buttfuck from the Bath House, or arrest him.

Your move.


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:48 | 5043364 BullyBearish
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Ratchet up

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:47 | 5043365 optimator
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The lead aircraft in that composite photo is a T-50 of which they have only three prototypes flying.  

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:15 | 5043479 NoWayJose
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Only three - according to your sources - but how many do they REALLY have?  I suspect the procurement process in Russia is a little bit more streamlined than the US where the contracting laws for procurement often dealy things for years with lobbying and protests.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:03 | 5043730 lakecity55
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We do not know. However, with advanced S-XXX anti aircraft missile systems and their new generation fighters, any NATO plane will be smoked.

I suppose Bath House could hold their families hostage and chain them to their controls, but hey, they will still get shot down.

Plus, Backdoor Barry will lay them off as soon as they up the landing gear. I would bail out over Russia.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:48 | 5043366 no1wonder
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Pictures of Ukraine troops that took refuge in Russia this morning

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:31 | 5043551 FMR Bankster
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Note the key phase spoken by one of the Ukrainian fighters in this article. "My contract was up four months ago". These are mostly militia paid for by UK businessmen. The Ukrainian military either defected or was ineffective and these folks were paid to take over. Now that there's no resupply, and the fighting is going on indefinitely, they have had enough.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:53 | 5043372 The Blank Stare
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I imagine the Ukraine government looks like a scene from the Three Stooges, but that would be insulting to the Three Stooges.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:55 | 5043395 toady
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Kingdom of Moronic?

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:56 | 5043393 socalbeach
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Another 3,000 Kiev troops about to throw in the towel.


3,000 Ukrainian military is ready to give Russia

According to sources in Novorossia, several thousands of Ukrainian military, who abandoned in Donbass to conduct so-called "anti-terrorist" operation (ATO), ready to stop fighting and come over to the side of Russia is the only guarantor of preservation of their life and non-retaliation.

"On the Russian representatives came a number of officers of the Ukrainian army higher and lower ranks, who said he did not see sense and prospects of continuation of the fratricidal war and are ready to stop acting in favor of the Kiev mode and curators from the United States, said a source "". - Moreover, it is not only about the military and border guards, who are caught in the "South boiler" on the border with Russia, but also about the commanders and ordinary soldiers groups of Ukrainian troops deployed at the Donetsk and Lugansk".

According to the interlocutor of our publication, discontent among Ukrainian servicemen is massive and growing every day. In some units that have suffered losses and face severe shortages of food and fuel, there were clashes with the nationalists.

"We are in contact with the Ukrainian military and know that in some parts, despite extreme exhaustion, people are ready to deploy weapons in the direction of criminal authorities and to go to Kyiv", - said the source.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:04 | 5043420 no1wonder
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Sergey Lavrov on Ukraine troops "asking Russia for help":

“We have repeatedly helped Ukrainian law enforcers asking for help, asking us to receive their wounded friends,"

"We have helped, offering medical assistance and given the possibility of return to all those who wanted it without impeding them, without keeping anyone forcibly,”

“To tell the truth, those who had wished to return to Ukraine were then accused of deserting and were court-martialed,”

Lavrov said he expected the Ukrainian authorities "will show humanity in the long run and will realise the absolute inadmissibility of the situation when Ukrainians are waging war against each other, when they are made to fight against their own people while those who refuse are seen as traitors to their own country”.


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:21 | 5043511 sushi
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Without declaring a state of National Emergency, the Ukr conscipt call up has a normal duration of 3 months. The current govt is refusing to release conscipts when their 3 month terms expire. The conscripts get little or no training but are sent into battle to achieve the goals of neo-nazi masters who treat them as disposable cannon fodder and fail to provide active units with rations, fuel, ammo and other necessitites. 

Basically what you have in Ukr is a Ptomekin army that exists primarily on paper, is completely ineffective at battling lightly armed rebels and is being killed off or captured as quickly as it is mobilized.

The only asset the neo-nazi leadership has are an IMF bank loan and backing by the USSA.


Give it another month or two and the Ukr army will turn on the neo-nazi overloards. Come mid-winter Ukr will be a failed state with a population in a state of famine as the conflict has prevented any yearly harvest and the IMf funds are likely going to buy swank residences in the Uk.


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:33 | 5044261 tsuki
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And pay R. Hunter Biden. 

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:11 | 5043456 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Thanks for the link to the article. There is a minor typo in the URL, but enough to present a problem. Corrected link below:

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 14:29 | 5044899 socalbeach
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Should remember not to make posts without having a cup of coffee first.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:56 | 5043647 lakecity55
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"US Officers Fired From Jobs on Battlefield Defect to Russia"

(assoc. pussies:)

"US Officers, fired on the battlefield, under enemy fire, have slipped over the border to Russia from A-Stan, sources report.

The Russian Armed Forces have offered high-paying jobs to the canned commanders, with a sworn promise to honor their secrecy agreements with their former employer. The high-paying positions will be in training units only.

'That commie homo in DC wants us dead after we are fired so our families cannot collect insurance,' replied one US Major.
"The Bath House has abandoned serving officers to the Enemy," said COL Rustoff of the Russian Army. We will give them real jobs and treat them like the men and warriors they are, as well as honor their oaths to protect sensitive information."

Rustoff continued, " day, they will be able to return and help free their countrymen from the Insane Hand Grenade Monkey currently posing as their president. US Naval personnel are welcomed to defect at any Russian port, as Russian Intelligence indicates the Monkey Man plans layoffs in the USN next month."


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 09:59 | 5043404 agNau
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"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,"

It is the much hated freedom they seek.
Now all that remains is the US Electronic Army, as the
Media Moguls once again begin blasting forth the Propaganda.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:06 | 5043430 medium giraffe
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Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free, There's a gigantic socio-economic experiment we'd like to try, We need bloodstock fast

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:21 | 5043512 rwe2late
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"400 Ukraine soldiers kidnapped by Putin"

will be a likely MSM headline.


The current AP-Yahoo explanation is that:

"a Ukrainian military official said the soldiers, without giving a number,

were forced into Russian territory by rebel fire"

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:40 | 5043582 lakecity55
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"US Border Patrol Reports Surge in Defecting Ukrainian Soldiers at Brownsville"

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:06 | 5043434 Hubbs
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Er, the top side of the plane is painted brown and green if you are looking down on the plane with the ground in the background, whereas the bottom is painted shades of blue and grey if you are looking at it from below.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 13:03 | 5044425 morongobill
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Quick, someone call the Kardashians!

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:07 | 5043435 mastersnark
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I've got a country-crush on Russia.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:15 | 5043478 marcusfenix
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I nearly spit my coffee on my keyboard...that's good stuff.

so do I...Russiaholicks anonymous in our future?

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:20 | 5043501 1stepcloser
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Shoe nice... loves russia

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:21 | 5043508 BlindMonkey
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I certainly like the women.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:11 | 5043455 marcusfenix
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this is exactly why I called bullshit on the alleged sat photos showing Russian forces shelling Ukrainian military positions.

if they are going to intervene, this is what it will look like, mass amounts of airstrikes and cruise missile attacks...there won't be any need for vague or grainy satellite photos and unconfirmed you tube videos. I think that intervention is imminent, the ground forces appear to be at the bridge heads established earlier and the make up of the air assets for this most recent exercise are exactly what will be needed to establish air superiority and close ground support. ships in the black sea and the Iskander land systems can provide cruise missile attacks while the S-400 will button up Russia air space, making retaliation a very costly prospect for anybody considering it.

with the reports of cross border attacks by Ukrainian grad rockets as recent as yesterday Moscow is now in a position to go ahead and use force in the eastern part of the country. Putin has played this well, he took his time did not move to quickly in pursuit of his goals, he allowed time for the counter narrative to the western propaganda of "Russia bad, Kiev good" to take hold and show the brutality that Kiev is using against their own it appears the stage is set and mother Russia is ready to move in.

this is only a drill...until it's not.       

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 13:01 | 5044418 morongobill
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Shock and awe, Russian style!

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:13 | 5043470 Kina
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This is a very good idea from Russia..... wake some of those NATO dudes up to a dose of reality of the machines of war that would be awakened.


Nothing like seeing these things in war mode to put a chill up your spine and hope for other solutions to pressing issues.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:27 | 5043529 NoWayJose
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You don't often see pictures of Obama or Kerry at any live fire drills conducted by the US military.  There is nothing like feeling your whole body vibrate to know that you DO NOT want to unleash these weapons  on others - nor do you want to be on the receiving side.  This is REAL - not a videogame conducted via the camera on a drone.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:35 | 5043546 lakecity55
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"OMG Stepanovich! What was that? My teeth are shaking!"
"Russian Fighters. 20 of them. At treetop level just over the border."
"Let's defect!"
"Let's haul ass and defect!"
(Ring! Ring!)

Vlad! It's me!

Hello, Xi!

Want to hear my latest Obamabola joke?

Nyet! Can you house some Ukranian soldiers for a while? I need to hide them.

No problem.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:33 | 5043555 potato
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There's no chill. Only the unemployed and unskilled who join the armed forces will die. It's just fuel to panic the people. "Look at the crazy ruskies! you must re-elect us and sign no-bid contracts with these 20 arms manufacturers!"

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:16 | 5043486 vyeung
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Putin has displayed a very big dose of restraint for the greater picture. The NWO crowd want their war and doing everything in their power to induce it. I applaud Putin and Co. for their professional diplomacy. It would be so easy to just say fuck it, let bomb these duchbags back to the stoneage. Well done!

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:46 | 5043619 Ventnor
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Yes, Russia's restraint in the face of endless provication is admirable.  But Moscow cannot let Eastern Ukraine fall under any circumstances.  That would be the prelude to efforts to organize an Orange Revolution in Red Square -- the next item on Washington's agenda.  

So Moscow must arm the East Ukrainians to the hilt, and allow Russians, Cossaks, Chechens and others to cross into Ukraine to bolster Strelkov's forces.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:22 | 5043513 NoWayJose
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If the number of defectors increases, this will free up Rebel fighters to move to other parts of eastern Ukraine.  Not a good thing for the Western Ukies.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:36 | 5043566 BlindMonkey
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The armor would be a huge addition. I have heard they have been giving the Ukies hell with being outnumbered 10 to one or more. 70 pieces of armor would make a big difference.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:26 | 5043526 lakecity55
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Hell no we won't go!
Burn those draft cards HO Ho Ho

Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh!
The NLF is bound to win!

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:28 | 5043535 q99x2
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How committed do you have to be before you can apply for assylum?


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:09 | 5043766 Bankster Kibble
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I know Volvos are tough, but tough enough to support a BUK missile?  I'd like to see pictures of that.  Is the Daily Mail photoshopping one for us?

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:43 | 5043603 JamesBond
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Get ready for Russian missiles in Cuba.  




Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:08 | 5043756 Bankster Kibble
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Perhaps that will be a later step.  First will be Iskanders in Kaliningrad, and we will again listen to Poland squawk.

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:00 | 5043714 SpanishGoop
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Just wait until the US/EU felexes their military muscles showing of with a massive 300 flighing F-35's.

Just wait !!! (but don't hold your breath).


Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:24 | 5044208 tsuki
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I think you have to hold your breath.  There were reports that the oxygen generating apparatus was faulty during high altitude maneuvers. 

Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:58 | 5044394 sushi
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That implies the Ukrainian conflict will not be resolved until 2019 at the earliest.

A flig hing F-35 is an apt description.


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