This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Why the Heck Are We Bringing Ebola Patients Into the U.S.?
There’s no cure for Ebola.
Ebola is deadly and contagious. 90% of those who catch it die quickly.
Normally, the extreme lethality of Ebola means that the virus quickly “burns itself out”. Specifically, if a villager eats an infected fruit bat and comes down with Ebola, it quickly kills the villager and everyone around him … and then the spread stops because it can’t travel to the next village over.
In other words, extreme deadliness of Ebola normally insures that it doesn’t spread very far.
But – for the first time in history – it is now spreading worldwide. As Michael Snyder notes:
#1 As the chart below demonstrates, the spread of Ebola is starting to become exponential…
#2 This is already the worst Ebola outbreak in recorded history by far.
#3 The head of the World Health Organization says that this outbreak “is moving faster than our efforts to control it“.
#4 The head of Doctors Without Borders says that this outbreak is “out of control“.
#5 So far, more than 100 health workers that were on the front lines fighting the virus have ended up contracting Ebola themselves. This is happening despite the fact that they go to extraordinary lengths to keep from getting the disease.
***
As Paul Craig Roberts so aptly put it the other day, all it would take is “one cough, one sneeze, one drop of saliva, and the virus is loose“.
As Dr. Sanjay Gupta notes, there have been lapses in safety at the Centers for Disease Control and U.S. hospitals in treating infectious diseases.
So why is the U.S. flying in Ebola patients to be treated on U.S. soil?
Yes, I feel sorry for the American aid workers who were trying to do good in Africa by helping those infected with Ebola. But the risk of losing containment of this beast is too high.
»
- advertisements -
Yep. I told my wife that if she were infected and overseas, I would not transport her back. Its unconscionable to put 300 million at risk for one, even a loved one.
Pointless, probably erroneous, and irrelevant.
Based on you saying so? Ha ha, that's what I'd call a Real Hoot!
"Why the Heck Are We Bringing Ebola Patients Into the U.S.?" "We" aren't. The owners are. I keep thinking of the scene in the movie Outbreak where Cuba Gooding Jr. keeps asking, "why?" Dustin Hoffman keeps answering, "they want their weapon."
Our beloved fascist government will 'let the private sector' handle it with a pill, costs $1300 a month after govt pays for the research, the pill won't cure anything it'll just hold off temporarily most of the worse effects of the virus, some FDA regulators give the pill a quick thumbs up as they scoot off to the 'private sector' for an extremely lucrative position and spend more time with the 'fam' and they'll let it spread widely.... it'll be more profitable for the pharma industry than medicare Part D and the health insurance industry profits from Obamacare combined. YEA.... the system works!! it really works!!
What's the only reason that they would not worry about bringing it here?
Its here already....
Its here already.... and we need moar.
I am surprised no one hasn't dug up some ebola infected corpse and just dumped/exploded it in a crowded market place. Now THAT would be terrorism, go to the market to feed the family and come home with a personal case of ebola...
Fucking dumbass government. You don't bring highly contageous patients stateside. Keep that shit out of the country. How fucking stupid and arrogant is our government? OK, well I guess that's a self answering question.
While they're at it, shut down the fucking border where disease and criminals are running rampant.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking traitors!
The Ebama virus has been here for years.
The Ebama virus feeds on the ebonic plague, the black curse upon the nation.
He is African after all
Lol +1000
Good one!
This reminds of the scene towards the end of the movie "12 Monkeys".
The bad guy is going through airport security with the deady virus and the guard says "I'll need to take a look in your suitcase".
He finds a sealed vial inside and opens it up and takes a whiff...then tells the bad guy evreything looks ok and lets him through. DUH!
Nobody seems to think about the fact that about 95% of all MRSA, CRE, and Kliebesella superbugs have all essentially been hospital containment and control failure related illnesses.
It's a shame so many people will have to die for intelligent people's mindblowingly ignorant arrogance
"It's a shame so many people will have to die for intelligent people's mindblowingly ignorant arrogance"
Human hubris.
You just cannot bring yourself to believe that such a catastrophe as awaits us has been planned?
This kind of stuff litters human history. Everyone believes that they are invincible.
It's evolution. It's nature being nature... We could have never represed every possible thing forever...
More like a black fuckin death event. Seriously. How does a direct contact virus spread exponentially, when historically it has never, ever done so?
It is known to be present in human saliva. Do we not spray fucking spittle and mucous when we cough and we sneeze? Some particles expelled during sneezes are as small as 5 microns. They can float in air indefinitely.
MIT researchers have proven that unseen, microscopic droplets of droplets have been shown to travel about 200x further than previously thought. A fucking woman died in the UK at the airport with it the other day. Somebody could get on a plane, be infected for weeks until they got sick. Seriously. All it takes is a patient zero.
Never mind the executive order Obama signed the other day allowing for the detention of anyone showing signs of respiratory illness in FEMA camps?
You ever wonder how they were planning to fill all those coffins? Well, its truly been nice fucking knowing you all.
Or 60-90% of you anyway
It isn't exponential yet based on the numbers I've seen (which are probably not true - WA is most likely underreporting).
Not enough numbers yet to do any meaningful statistical tests
Virus can't survive in the air - if someone sneezes and their snot goes all over you - yes be worried. Otherwise, no
Most virsus that we are aware of.
"Never mind the executive order Obama signed the other day allowing for the detention of anyone showing signs of respiratory illness in FEMA camps?"
Can you provide a reference?
Many people here claim that "Obama" isn't doing anything. It can't be both...
I was never looking forward to wearing my nano-particle mask...
This is where the TSA steps up, stops checking people leaving and starts checking people arriving.
/s
Now that they are unionized, maybe they will have a job action and begin to refuse to check anybody at all. For "agent safety". They can stand back, wear surgical masks and wave everybody through all the check points. Ha ha.
Which is worse Ebola, Obama, Obolama or Obamola,
do we hope for a change?
or take a change for a new hope,
either way, Obama is not the great black hope for anyone.
He has fixed nothing, contributed nothing, accepted the blame for nothing.
"He has fixed nothing, contributed nothing, accepted the blame for nothing."
No shit, Sherlock. He's from The Govt. Further, you ain't in The Club, so of course there's no way that YOU (or I, or folks here) would get any benefit.
Sometimes success is measured in what is NOT lost. In this case, despite most prognostications by folks here (myself included) which indicated that there was essentially no way the US could manage to stay afloat much longer post Lehman, well... Banks are still paying their execs lots of money. MIC is still rolling along.
Your measure is irrelevant, clearly. Sorry to break the news to you...
No shit GW. Could the U.S. for once just do what it can with flinging us into the middle of crap. Maybe the government figures it has to outweigh the nasty crap they do that endangers everyone by encouraging extreme humanitarian efforts that once again, endanger rather than protect.
A hospital ship would be a better choice. No good can come from this. Whatever research that should be done could be done at sea without any national risk.
No risk, of course, except to those unfortunates aboard the ship.
I've been wondering why they haven't been sent to hospital ships. I find it hard to believe that those ships, which would be front line in a bio attack, don't have containment facilities for this. So why bring Ebola to one of the largest air hubs on the east coast.
#41
What is the chance. Shows on tv about zombies. And crowds infected with a contagious disease would be zombies.
A show about a Navy ship, out to sea, trying to find a cure for a virus killing everybody.
Ebola scenario that accounts for bringing ebola cases to USA:
[1] Earlier ebola data strongly suggested poor airborne transmission and contagion only when case begins to show symptoms.
Later data and military lab work in USA, USSR, Israel, UK show airborne transmission can be more easily accomplished with simple mutation and also that the virus is transmissible/contageous before case show symptoms.
Recent ebola cases are from mutant strains and are more easily airborne transmissible than the earlier case studies.And likely transmissible by other paths unknown.
[2] The President has been informed that transmission to USA is likely, not remote. Also, there are now more virulent strains.
Study of remedies and mitigating agents is severely handicapped ai African locations by culture/funds/ facilities/ security, personnel and mostly by lack of proper case histories and knowledge/control of each victim. Also, transmission by insect bite is extremely difficult to isolate for study in Africa because insects, etc abound and are uncontrollable.
The best hope is to return to USA known cases of known [can be vetted] American citizens to an optimum study facility. Only certifiable backgrounds of such cases give most promise for success of research and experimental results.
[[4] The Emory U. Medical facility [class 4?] is deliberately near the CDC in Atlanta and is reccommended for this purpose.
Any delay is most dangerous because ebola will spread to here whether we now return these cases for study , or not.
Thus the decision to bring selected cases to Atlanta.
Coincidence. With the news from Mapp Pharma {San Diego}, found this on theor website [LeafBio arm of Mapp]
ASAMRID release 8-2013
http://www.leafbio.com/PettittAug2013.pdf
According to first author James Pettitt of the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), the research team previously demonstrated that the treatment—known as MB-003—protected 100 percent of non-human primates when given one hour after Ebola exposure. Two-thirds of the animals were protected when treated 48 hours after exposure.
In the current study, 43 percent of infected non-human primates recovered after receiving the treatment intravenously 104 to 120 hours after infection. The experimental design differed significantly from the team’s earlier work—this time, infected animals were not treated until they developed measurable symptoms of disease.
Tell me that the US military does not have containerized high containment field hospitals just waiting to be loaded on the C-130s ready to go. They could set up a state of the art facility anywhere (west africa). This sounds like a double triple cross.
Ohhhhh please! Can we all be a little more paranoid about the Dreaded Tropical Disease Ebola? Or invent even MORE conspiracy theories that make as much sense as Rin Tin Tin At The Gypsy Campground? We got WWIII in the works, but nobody thinks Global Warming is anything more than the gubbermint trying to take are termometers. Oil consumption has outstripped the ability of the economy to raise sufficient capital to maintain current consumption, but Peak Oil is just fear monfering.
Daaaaaaaaaaammmmmmnnnnnn but you niggahs be trippin....
TulsaTime
Nothing to see here, nothing to see here, nothing ...
What are (and were) US bio-war researchers doing in African Ebola zone?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/what-are-us-biological-warfare-researchers-...
move along .... no more questions
Good link; thanks. I wonder if they realize that by engineering recombinent molecules they are also placing nature in the position to out-flank those developments, which nature always seems to do, especially with viruses. It could be that this now seemingly airborne mutant ebola is just such an occurence. If that's the case, it could mean they'll be chasing a new antidote every few months if this thing is as mutant as it appears it could be. Millions could die in the process.
Sorry Tulsa Time but you head might be in the sand, a typical response in the U.S. People do stupid stupid dangerous things, over and over and over. Just because you haven't been a witness to the horrendus prices paid YET, doesn't mean your turn ain't coming.
Why is this guy allowed to post here?
They are american citizens. Nice job ignoring that so conviently.
Why are you allowed to type, when you so obviously have no concept of logic or sense?
Please explain your profound wisdom.
I'll explain. You are a stupid mutherfucker. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to bring people who are infected with a deadly and highly contagious disease into an area where it has never existed (i.e., the US) is a stupid mutherfucker. The people at CDC and Emory who think they are smarter than the Ebola virus are stupid mutherfuckers and they're gonna get all of us killed or wishing we were dead.
EVD is deadly for sure, but not highly contagious, at least not according to known medical information. We can always speculate that this version is highly contagious, but from the so far publicly known information it is no more contagious than AIDS. If a country doesn't bar reentry for AIDS infected citizens, it should have no reason to bar reentry for Ebola infected patients.
I think this comment contains a kernel of logic as regards why these folks were brought to the U.S. The know means of infection - contact with bodily fluids - suggests that trained healthcare workers should be at little risk of infection. Hence, the fact that trained healthcare workers became infected calls into question our knowledge of how the disease is transmitted. The CDC may have good reason to investigate how this disease is being transmitted and may believe that these infected professionals offer an opportunity to investigate this further. Frankly, developing a better understanding of the disease's infectivity is about the only rational reason I can see for bringing these folks into the U.S.
Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to bring people who are infected with a deadly and highly contagious disease into an area where it has never existed (i.e., the US) is a stupid mutherfucker.
_____________________________________
Never existed? It means that US Americans never brought back strains of the virus to their research labs.
What else?
Not saying its not bad that its been brought to the US.
My point is:
Would you stay in a third world country infected with ebola, when you could come home for treatment?
SO STFU!
Why were those people in Africa in the first place? Did they not know of the risks when they went willingly? Were they simply ignorant of the danger? Please. These people were educated. They went over to help others and were infected knowing this was a possibility. If they were true humanitarians they would not consent to exposing others to this lethal virus. Why should others who did not consent to be exposed to Ebola be put at risk?
Miffed;-)
Your a bunch of keyboard activists.
These people were helping others. They deserve the best of care particulary being citizens of this country.
Its easy to cry and scream when its not you needing the treatment!
Again, STFU!
Well isn't that exceptional.
If CDC is so great, this treatment should, could, and would have been done elsewhere. Every single person get's rousted by TSA before they get on a plane. The way this was handled is tantamount to terr'ism.