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The Difference Between War & Revolution

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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:21 | 5051556 dirtyfiles
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so it must be Russia right?o wait....

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:22 | 5051561 Thought Processor
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Not matter how you define it, it's coming.



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:27 | 5051575 y3maxx
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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:28 | 5051584 TungstenBars
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Zionists and Neocons?

BRICs, Libertarians, and Constitutionalists? 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:30 | 5051596 y3maxx
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Mad Max?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:50 | 5051680 FinalEvent
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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:12 | 5051756 linniepar
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Storage wars

Cake wars

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:40 | 5051853 TahoeBilly2012
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Cue up my Mel Gibson action figure....with mini Tequila bottle.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:49 | 5051892 Comte de Saint ...
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Ignorance and jingoistic patriotism seem to drive the agenda from the author of that nonsensical image

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:13 | 5052002 MontgomeryScott
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I could wish for a proper use of the language.

That being said, FUCK YOU, Count.

Governments start wars.

The PEOPLE start revolutions.

Governments call people that revolt 'dissidents' and 'traitors' and 'threats to Homeland Security' and 'armed separatists' (if they were disarmed, they would be called 'dissenters' and 'tin-foil-hat-wearing left/right/radical conspiracy theorists' and pepper-sprayed and electroshocked and shot and killed and rounded up and tortured in to making false confessions and drugged and experimented on and castrated and stuff).

I CALL PEOPLE who use the word 'JINGOISTIC' and 'PATRIOTISM' in the same breath LEFTIST STATIST EDUCATED IDIOTS. TRULY, you do not grasp the agenda that is being portrayed, and wish to derail any thought of armed revolution against the corrupt and unConstitutional leadership at all sectors in this former Constitutional United States. YOUR OWN educators and the shadow government that you speak FOR coined the terms to refer to those such as yourself in that 'spycraft'. The Framers had a term as well. They liked to call it 'SEDITION' against the principles and ideals of the free people who drafted and signed the Articles Of Confederation, Declaration Of Independence, and Constitution For The United States when one introduces ridicule to the idea of the truth and the very framework of liberty from centralized rule in a colonial or occupational fashion (as witnessed by the actions of the people inhabiting Washington D.C.; which is NOT, I repeat, NOT within the boundaries of the United States).

Did I forget to say FUCK, YOU, COUNT? if you can't see my finger, I'll turn it up a little for you.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:35 | 5052050 Comte de Saint ...
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Checklist for the so-called American Revolution 2.0

Current majority as a population group (mainly ages): senior citizens, baby-boomers plus the disabled (approximately 100 million)

Skilled on urban warfare? NO

Skilled in non-conventional warfare? NO

Skilled in asymmetrical warfare? NO

Skilled in non-restricted warfare? NO

Type of weapons they posses: semi automatic

Younger generations of Americans have no loyalty or allegiance to the United States per se. This population group seem to be more identified with global governance and less prone to challenge the Sovereign. The author of such laughable motto wants only to sell a product by evoking jingoistic patriotism (a clever marketing technique indeed).

PS. MontgomeryScott seems not ot realize that the Constitution defines Americans as Financial Instruments, less than human beings (and paradoxically, lower animals have more rights than these people).

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:40 | 5052604 TheReplacement
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It would take a long time to kill 100 million.  During that time a lot of them, being vets and all, would be teaching and learning new tricks.  Younger generations might be a bit leary of killing grandpa and uncle Bill for the sake of some stranger in DC.  I don't know but I've been told a statist has no soul. 

Win or lose I would choose the side that is right.  I suppose you will run away or choose the side you think is more likely to win.  At the end of days we will both be dead but you will have lived for no purpose at all.  Enjoy your time.

PS - What makes you think you will be selected to be one of the 500 million survivors?  Odds are strongly in favor of you being murdered too.  Again, enjoy your time.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:48 | 5052839 El Crusty
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you are correct that it would take a long time for any armed group to go out and kill 100 million people. But a virus on the other hand could do the job much more quickly with very little effort or money and resources used. The other bonus is unlike conventional or even nuclear or chemical warfare a viral pandemic would leave much if not all of the infrastructure intact. cremate the bodies and then spray everything down with lysol or bleach and you have millions of homes, farms and industrial areas ready for the survivors to come in and make the country they way they want it.

With this Ebola outbreak we are just now seeing the virus gain a foothold outside of Africa for the first time with the first human cases being reported in the UK and US. The timing of those cases couldn't be much worse or better depending on how you are looking at it. The cold and flu season is just around the corner, with Ebola festering in the background it would be the perfect time for it to spread like wildfire in a couple months. Schools are going to be back in session next month, you will have millions of students from around the world packed together in dorms and classrooms spreading the virus, a lot of the wont immediately think " oh ive got Ebola!" they will just think its a common cold or the flu and not take it seriously until its too late and they've spread it to half their classmates. If someone didn't have Ebola but just a cold or flu and then they were exposed to Ebola they would be really screwed as their immune system would already be majorly stressed dealing with another virus, and would have a higher chance of death.

Now I don't totally expect all that to happen but the odds are increasing that it might turn into a perfect storm of SHTF.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 05:56 | 5052998 Confused
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At the risk of being destroyed by Red Down arows, I would like to ask you a question. And a serious one, based soley on the reponse you had given (this is not to say I disagree with your premise*).

What is the definition of revolution? And by logical extention, how does your use of 'warfare' fit into it? 

And a follow up statement that runs counter to your criteria. One word, or rather a name: Gandhi. 

All things are possible. 



*full disclosure: I did not down arrow you. There is some truth in your statement (ie younger generations). 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 07:46 | 5053125 jwoop66
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ghandhi was successful because he was fighting a rational (as much as can be) govt.    If he were fighting mao's china for instance, he would be a historical footnote.    Our present govt would give a rats ass about ghandhi.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:48 | 5051877 Comte de Saint ...
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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:31 | 5051599 AlaricBalth
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War is when you fight the terrorists.
Revolution is when you are the terrorists.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:38 | 5051625 SWRichmond
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It is truly astonishing to me to see how comfortable we have become with the notion of armed rebellion.  Just a few years ago anyone who suggested even talking about it was a loony. 

The government has done the job I predicted: pushing people off the fence, into the camp of the resistance.  Bravo!

More and more Americans are abandoning the idea of peaceful political change.  What is left?

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

John F. Kennedy

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:39 | 5051642 sodbuster
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NWO, bitchez!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:18 | 5051782 linniepar
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Guerilla warfare,  bitchez.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:56 | 5051923 NoPension
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4th Generation Warfare. Look it up.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:22 | 5052544 Implied Violins
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Just bought an SKS. I'm in cosmoline hell...

Not that I'd ever actually use it, you NSA motherfucks. I just got pissed when your LEADER banned AK-47's. It's a matter of principle. And the fact that 17 countries that seized arms from their people in the 20th century killed 260 million of their OWN PEOPLE - more than all the wars combined.

Long live Solzhenitsyn...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:17 | 5052865 Colonel Klink
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I've heard baking the stock in the oven helps remove some of the Cosmoline from the wood.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:17 | 5052290 stant
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Going down to fairview ky to see the confederate memorial. .

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:43 | 5052399 MontgomeryScott
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Had to make a drive to southern NM recently, and I tried to make time to go to the Eager, AZ. cemetary where William Milton 'Bill' Cooper is entombed. My timeline didn't allow for this luxury. 1,800 miles (one way). The TSA can KISS MY ASS. Cheaper to drive this far, by the way (Diesel is 'only' about $3.80 on the trip, and I averaged 22.43 MPG @80MPH, so it cost about $500.00 LESS than flying down). The old Dodge/Cummins 12-valve second-gen Bosch 3/4 ton new body-girl still rides nice (and the A/C still blows ice cubes after a quarter-million miles without any service; actually reading 224,000 on the ODO right now).

The border is literally falling apart.

The CSA is but a memory now.

You'd best get down and visit while you still can.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:58 | 5052455 bunzbunzbunz
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Only tools think you have to pay $500 (or more) for flights. My round-trip flights cost <$100 anywhere in the U.S. International flights are up there though...about $500 total cost round trip to Asia.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 07:18 | 5053085 Beowulf55
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I call me a $500 RT ticket to Asia.............

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:20 | 5052301 MontgomeryScott
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The time will soon come when the Federals push too far, and the people stand up in opposition. Unfortunately, the Federals have the weapons, and the people will most likely be SLAUGHTERED. they keep trying to incite a revolt on smaller scales (USAPATRIOT, TSA, DHS, NSA, BLM, etc. of recent activity), and as of yet have met almost NO resistance. The people are mostly compliant now (most even to the point of servitude or even death). By the time that most realize that it acually COULD happen HERE, it will have already transpired. GOOD GOD, what about the fucking BORDER? JESUS CHRIST! Alas, I am but one (they will keep saying).

Where will the line be drawn, and when?

There were two Captains of the U.S.S. Enterprise. One was Kirk (behind his back, the crew called him 'Captain Fattie'). The other was some Frenchie (with a strangely British accent) by the name of Picard (we coined the phrase 'Captain Baldie'). Of course these were terms of endearment. Picard gave a speech one time:

STRANGE. This video clip of the computer programmer that testifies under oath in court in Florida that computers are rigging the elections in the CONUS came up as a suggestion in my search on Gookletube. Interesting, isn't it? I remember watching this post in 2005, by the way:

How many people in the United States ACTUALLY voted for the people in the last, say, 4 selections or so that are ACTUALLY holding office?


Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

The real question (and ONLY way to solve the problem CORRECTLY) is to correctly define, identify, and prosecute 'THOSE'. In the case of VOTE-RIGGING, WHO in the CONUS authorized the contract to write the source code that runs the voting machines; and WHAT CORPORATION (DIEBOLD) is responsible?

DIE-fucking-BOLD. DIE BOLD. WHAT lobbyist group ACTUALLY WROTE the legislation that Congress PASSED and the president SIGNED into 'LAW', that allowed this vote-rigging to happen? WHICH congressmen voted FOR this 'billl' without READING IT because they were 'too busy' and were told by their 'SENIORS' that the deal might be made to 'TRADE VOTES'? DIEBOLD got BIG by writing the software that rigs the electronic gaming venues in fucking Las Vegas, for God's sake! The name 'Harry Reid' comes to mind here...

I'd shoot that motherfucker dead in less than a heartbeat (given the proper opportunity) because HE IS A TRAITOR to his nation of birth and to the people who inhabit it (including his MOTHER, who he FUCKED OVER by allowing himself to be bought by multinational corporate Mafia interests).

Are you REALLY 'truly astonished' at my statement, SWRichmond?

Oh, I forgot. 'Armed Rebellion' is simply a 'notion' of yours. A stinky pussy needs what are called 'notions' (perfumes) to cover up the smell of promiscuity. Mathematical certainties in a matrix of action and reaction in real time cannot POSSIBLY be called 'PREDICTIONS' (I hate to break this to you). NO SHIT: The people are getting pissed off.


If you open-carried a Glock 9 or a modded AR down the street in Richmond, VA. (I assume by your screen-name that this is where you are from), WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? HELL, if you 'conceal-carried', what would happen?

,... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

'Summer soldiers' speak and pontificate and postulate and make loud noises from their easy-chairs; but when it comes to action; they usually retreat and fail to stand up; not wishing to give up what little comfort they still are 'granted' by the governments that they still hold fealty to.

'...that among these inaleanable rights that God has granted are the right to LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PERSUIT OF HAPINESS;...' (that's a 'paraphrase').

The time for sitting on the fence is just about OVER. Choose THIS DAY which god you serve.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 07:23 | 5053096 SWRichmond
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If you open-carried a Glock 9 or a modded AR down the street in Richmond, VA. (I assume by your screen-name that this is where you are from), WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?

If I open carried a Glock, people would laugh at me, and rightly so.

Anything else?  Some people react a bit, but mostly not at all.  Conceal;ed carry is, welll, concealed.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 07:14 | 5053075 whirling tword ...
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What you say is true...  We have become a tinder box...

All we need is a spark to get it started.  Even if it's only 1% of the guns we have in the U.S.....  With 300,000,000 of them.... that would still be 3,000,000 guns seeking justice.  We may be a way off yet.  Things would have to get pretty bad...  as in, most folks would have to have more to gain than to lose by doing it....   Of course, that's still just a spark away with the way this country is currently being run.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that but, I fear it will.  I don't advocate it but, what I want won't matter much in the scheme of things.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:05 | 5053163 Sean7k
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SWRichmond, what is left is peace. No war, no revolution. Change is inevitable, but a population which ascends to creates peace wins by default. You cannot fight that which will not fight back. The people in power NEED us to produce for them, but we have no need for them. They are a convenience we have been brainwashed to believe are necessary. 

Once we refuse to obey, refuse to produce, refuse to pay and go about our lives defining trade and exchange and security in our own terms, the game is over. 

Always glad to read your comments. Cheers.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 05:22 | 5052971 zerozulu
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and Google knows it when the revolution is coming.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:33 | 5052582 TheReplacement
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Do you care more about what happens over there between them or over here to you?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:58 | 5051931 markpower49
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As Tom Kratman says, the best option is killing a few million of the worst progressives here in the US. Probably won't happen, so many more will need to be culled.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:25 | 5051571 lost my shirt
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My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:27 | 5051576 CClarity
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Go away LMS!!

Tyler, can't you dump this guy?  

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:10 | 5051751 NoDebt
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"I'm not available right now, but your call is important to me.  Please leave a message and I will return your call during normal business hours."

- Tyler

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:22 | 5051801 RaceToTheBottom
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Heavy Indian accent:  "My name is Brenda.  I will be speaking at you to be helping you in assisting you on your technical matter" 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:27 | 5051811 deflator
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you need to reboot. lldddreldddbooot...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:58 | 5051928 NoPension
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MS, I hate you for that!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:00 | 5052439 MontgomeryScott
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My name is Bill from Bombay.

It would be imperitive that I speak to the woman of the house. Do you have a signifiant other that I might converse with? It would be greatly beneficial to you that you allow me to converse with the female of the family.


That is a shame. Do you realize that she could be making 9.876 dollars per day by simply giving me some pertinent information? This information will not be shared by anyone except those in this LLC company that will give her further offers to make even more rupees and dollars. if you would allow me to speak with her...


(Actual phone conversation with me, and recited from memory, circa 1998. I was the one who said 'NO'. and the 'CLICK' was the telephone being disconnected at MY end by ME)

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:25 | 5052556 Implied Violins
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Just ignore these fucks. The Tylers will probably nuke threads that spend too much time commenting on this shit. And I admit I am guilty as charged.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:34 | 5051615 e_goldstein
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Your sister's friend is doing it wrong. I knew a girl in the 80's who made that in a couple of nights and the job didn't require computer skills.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:12 | 5051757 MsCreant
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I think it is a topless dancer.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:55 | 5051920 Kirk2NCC1701
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Guys are morons.  Pay money to see a girl jiggling her boobs and you can't touch 'em?  How stupid is that!?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:59 | 5051939 NoPension
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Pretty fucking stupid.

They make a lot.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:40 | 5052122 Agent P
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Here's some free advice from me to you....they always give you at least one "no touching" warning before they throw you out.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:18 | 5052294 angel_of_joy
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True... and tried !

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:50 | 5052636 Nick Jihad
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Compare how much it costs you to buy dinner,  just to fondle boobs that haven't even been enhanced.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 05:25 | 5052974 zerozulu
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It really look moronic and stupid if you already have jiggling boobs attached to you.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:24 | 5052553 MontgomeryScott
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I feel 'underpriveledged'.

I never had a sister.

My SON had FOUR sisters (my daughters), though, and some of their friends were SPECTACULAR (in an 'alpha-male' protective sort of way). I watched and was saddened as their lives were ruined. HERPES and the CLAP were really prevelant then (as now). I think a couple of them actually became strippers. Looking back, most of my son's sister's friends now weigh 280lbs. or more, and work at convenience stores selling beer at 1:30 in the morning and making 'cash-drops' and trying to support their fatherless children by several sperm-donating loves of their lives. Life is a BITCH sometimes (most of them were well on their way to becoming bitches as well, as I recall).

"Your sister's friend is doing it wrong"

She was a SKANK that had NO SKILLS. ("the job didn't require computer skills").

I knew more than a few girls in the '80's, by the way (but I'm still clean and always have been, thank God).

There, 'Emmanuel Goldstein'. I fixed it for you (unless you have a 'drippy dick').

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:55 | 5051695 Yen Cross
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   These fucking spambots must buy their greenies from the same outfit that sells fabricated friends to .gov Faceplant page.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:45 | 5052618 MontgomeryScott
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Your understatanding is rudimentary (or you are failing to express your full understanding due to the threats of retribution).

SUPPOSE: If you are the 'Power' that prints the 'currency' and 'pays out' this same 'currency' to those that the 'POWER' have hired to lurk and post and do 'upvoting' in order to attempt to sway 'public opinion'; how could this action possibly be misconstrued as 'buying greenies'? It is more like 'SELLING GREENIES for your SOUL' for those that are swayed and cajoled in to becoming 'spambots' (as you so eloquently refer to 'these people' as).

They cannot possibly realize the truth that they are owned CHATTEL. It's actually quite saddening to me.


When the boyz and girlz in the hardened sub-basements of Alexandria and Haifa and Bejing are smart-bombed and nuked and eradicated from the face of the Earth, will they be hailed as 'COLLATERAL DAMAGE' in a passing mention of along-lost speech from the master that they helped bring to power (and were blind as to the coming of the evil that they are currently inviting)?

SPAMBOTS have NO NEED to 'BUY' 'greenies'.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:48 | 5052751 Salsipuedes
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Monty Scott for Secretary of Something fer sure!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:59 | 5051709 Turk February
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You're doing it wrong. You need to post a number like $6587 per week. Verisimilitude FTW!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:05 | 5051731 FeralSerf
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Are you any relation to a poster by the name of "White House" who is rumoured to be AKA "Lost My Anal Virginity" in a White House tail gunning affair?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:11 | 5051753 janus
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oh yeah?  i fucked your sister and her friend six ways from sunday.

that is what i do,


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:54 | 5051915 stormsailor
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yeah lost shirt, but your sister gives the best blow job in the history of the world. she can service a 20 cock glory hole all by herself.  now thats efficiency.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:08 | 5051747 junction
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Maybe that black guy on the subway holding an Air Liberia flight bag and bleeding from both ears.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:24 | 5051557 ebworthen
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King George is not my King, and neither is Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:46 | 5051662 Dick Buttkiss
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“To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is GOVERNMENT; that is its justice; that is its morality.” — Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:47 | 5051888 deflator
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wish I could memorize that...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:57 | 5051925 Dick Buttkiss
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Here's something else Proudon said, which we can all memorize:

“The great are only great because we are on our knees. Let us rise."

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:02 | 5051953 Kirk2NCC1701
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And that's why Organized Religion was invented:  To keep the poor from killing the rich, and the ruled to obey their rulers.

The dumb consider religion to be true, the smart consider it to be false, and the rulers consider it to be useful.

Religion truly is the narcotic of the masses.  It keeps them dumb, servile and docile. 

Sheep:  they get shagged, milked, sheared, fleeced and slaughtered.  Until they do, they are kept calm and grazing.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:03 | 5052201 Dick Buttkiss
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Statism having become the one and only World Religion, which ever and always can kiss my ass.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:01 | 5052208 PrintemDano
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Let's see the evidence Kirk.  Perhaps a late night comedian told you that?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:51 | 5053309 FeralSerf
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The Sheep still "get shagged, milked, sheared, fleeced and slaughtered", even when they can smell the mutton stew being cooked.

Sheep always believe that they won't be the next honored guest for dinner and remain calm and keep grazing.

"Because the Lord is my Shepherd, I have everything I need!

He lets me rest in the meadow grass and leads me beside the quiet streams. He gives me new strength. He helps me do what honors him the most.

Even when walking through the dark valley of death I will not be afraid, for you are close beside me, guarding, guiding all the way.

You provide delicious food for me in the presence of my enemies. You have welcomed me as your guest; blessings overflow!

Your goodness and unfailing kindness shall be with me all of my life, and afterwards I will live with you forever in your home."

-- The Book (Tyndale House Publishers)

If you believe that, you are one of The Sheep, waiting to be sheared and for your place in the mutton stew.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:22 | 5051560 nmewn
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Enter Pogo, stage left ;-)

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:40 | 5051645 CPL
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"To show me the winds of fury and fire beneath!  To ride the air as lighting and shake the earth.  By the spirit will not be calmed with words no more to rend those souls to the Oak tree!  Balance to be made with Judgement swift."

-Pulls up deck chair, sips coffee-

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:23 | 5051564 atthelake
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It''ll never happen.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:24 | 5051567 Senduko
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Revolition is when you "think' you know who the enemy is.  Meet new boss same as the old.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:30 | 5051601 TungstenBars
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Choice is either stay under a current tyrant or fright to be free with the risk of a new tryant. 


Easy choice. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:37 | 5051629 Zadok
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I think 'fright' is why we are still where we are...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:11 | 5051993 stuman
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Mixed with a heavy does of apathy & ignorance. Those that "know" what's happening (been happening) are fearful of what it would take to change it. The rest don't know & don't care.

Think about how many people you know in your normal circle of family, friends and associations. How many reflect the same level of concern you do about our Nation, what's happening and where it's heading?

I'd say precious few of us can count with more than one hand those that fall into that category.

The changes being made are being "allowed" to be made, simply because the majority allow it. There should be literately 100's of thousands marching and camping on the White House lawn over a host of topics.

Spending/debt, immigration/invasion, health care TAX, IRS targeting , Benghazi lies, Presidential powers over-reach, EPA pretending to be the Executive Branch (along with the FDA), the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) ! The list could go on and on. 

Where are all the retired citizens that make up what's left of the "Greatest Generation"? They KNOW how things used to be! They can see what's going on and know wrong and criminal it is. Much easier than say the Generation Y (or X)

We had the Tea Party movemnet, which should of been a rallying point to "all" who disagree with the current system. We need civil law-abiding MASSES to protest, not defecating, window breaking, drug addled idiots thinking it's time to start a modern woodstock/burning man against "The Man" was a joke!

We need real honest to god citizens to get off their collective butts and simply STAND united against this encroaching tyranny!

Because without a unified front....we're going to get the boot, stomping on the face of what use to be America's liberty. Sadly I think that by the time the majority wake up it's going to be too little too late.

Sorry for the rant.  

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:53 | 5052436 Oldwood
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Every movement has been derided by political operatives and media as ignorant, progressing to racist, then fringe, and ultimately a threat to our constitutional republic. Typical people will not affiliate with such labeled groups. The powers that be control the message and make damn sure we know which side to support and which to ignore or mock. Even here on the hedge, anything that is common knowledge or accepted concepts is instantly attacked. It is impossible to coelesce any significant organization. Our willingness to trust any group has been destroyed. We are the head cases that people regularly ignore or avoid. I think it is hopeless for meaningful change until it is all lost. God only knows what will come after.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:18 | 5053198 whirling tword ...
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I call the corner cell in the FEMA camp!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:39 | 5053226 Sean7k
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Two astute, if not depressing comments in a row. Yes, the hedge gets it. However, beware the weight of hopelessness. There is much we can do for the world around us and in doing so, for ourselves. There is land to be salvaged, animals to be managed, children to raise and educate. 

There are festivals to organize, communities to enrich and people to love. 

Life can still be arranged to minimize the depredations of the elites. I awake to beautiful mornings, with a cup of home roasted coffee, my lover and some obnoxious and hungry dogs and cats. I could wile away the day being depresed by the cruelties of the State or the violence of the ignorant, but I must CHOOSE to do so. I could also wander my farm and flush a fox and her kits or a fawn in the high grass. 

We have choices in many things and most of them determine the quality of our lives.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 09:49 | 5064840 forensicator
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III% is all you can count on. During the revolution only 3% took up arms against the British. I don't see any difference this go round. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:33 | 5051578 Mercury
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War is when governments tell you who is the enemy

Revolution is when you finally figure out who is the real enemy


And civil war is what the government calls it after you lose.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:29 | 5051585 Dr. Engali
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TPTB have effectively obfuscated who the enemy is, and divided us as a society. The war coming our way will be the most uncivil of kind.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:38 | 5051632 Bemused Observer
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A lot of little revolutions all over the place. That's all they've accomplished. Lots of little fires instead of one larger one. But for that strategy to work, you have to be able to put all those little fires out right away. So, it may not go as they planned.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:20 | 5053207 whirling tword ...
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There won't be any REAL resistance until people have more to gain than to lose by resisting.

When enough feel that way and there is a spark... there will be insurrection, death on a large scale and words like sedition being used.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:29 | 5051590 NOTaREALmerican
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Revolution is when there's not 563 ESPN and porn channels.  

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:30 | 5051594 IridiumRebel
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is there an App for that?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:30 | 5051598 NoWayJose
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SHTF equalizer - most billionaires do not have more than three days worth of food and water in their homes.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:32 | 5051608 NOTaREALmerican
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SHTF re-equalizer.   most of the Trash Class doesn't know where the billionaries live.     Those that do, think they're nice to have a beer with.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:10 | 5051749 WillyGroper
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they have private jets & 365 homes.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:07 | 5051972 potato
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Billionaires are defined by the number of intangible currency units on ledgers in their name.

Those currency units will be worthless when SHTF. The only thing that will differentiate them is how much physical equipment they have.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:33 | 5051611 Overdrawn
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I was angry with my friend;  I told my wrath, my wrath did end. I was angry with my foe:  I told it not, my wrath did grow.  William Blake (I think)
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:41 | 5052737 Salsipuedes
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"No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings." - William Blake

That's why there's gonna be a big, fat, fuckin' crash.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:35 | 5051620 WhyWait
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A start.  But one of the greatest misconceptions that the American people are crippled by is the conflation of our Revolution and the Revolutionary War.

Our history books and the stories we teach skip from the "foreplay" - the struggle of the Colonial merchants and traders with England that built up over a decade leading to the Boston Tea Party in 1773 - almost straight to the start of the Revolutionary War in 1775, with a bridge story about conspirators led by prominent Bostonians meeting in attics and back rooms to plot an armed revolutionary uprising.

The problem with this narrative is that it leaves out the revolution itself!  

Now for the first time in almost 200 years preparations are underway to celebrate the revolution of 1774, with thousands of reenactors preparing to act out the drama of some of its events.  This is a story America badly needs, one that should be broadcast far and wide.

Check it out:

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:34 | 5051829 29.5 hours
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John Adams complained that (even) in his day, people confused the revolution with the war with Britain. He always insisted that the critical victories in the revolution happened before the war with Britain was fairly begun.



Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:36 | 5052732 Salsipuedes
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Think locally, act regionally.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:37 | 5051839 WhyWait
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:36 | 5051622 JuliaS
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The reason it's called a "revolution" is that after a full turn you end up exactly where you started.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:36 | 5051626 AdvancingTime
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Borders are a creation of man and not visible to the birds flying above. Much bloodshed and many wars could be avoided if the issues of regime change or borders could be handled in a more rational and constructive way, but do not expect this to happen. Borders and political control is a problem that haunts man since before the written word.

Recently President Obama and other officials have talked about the legal sanctity of sovereign borders, but in reality this is an argument of convenience masking deeper issues. When it comes down to it we are just pawns in this sad power game. If you doubt this just ask some of the many people displaced from their homes in Syria. More on the subject of sovereign borders in the article below.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:37 | 5051635 SofaPapa
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Wars are fought to maintain status and privelege for those at the top.  Historically, revolutions radically rearrange power arrangements, leading to a new social order.  Eventually, however, a similar structure to the original one appears, only with new characters in the leading positions.  The US revolution created a long-lasting change in the social order, but now the cycle has completed itself and we are back to the same system the founding fathers decried.  There has never in human history been a revolution that permanently changed the fundamental hierarchical (eventually tyrannical) nature of human government.

What grates most in my ears is listening to the current tyrants mimicking the language of the original US revolution.  Every time I see "freedom" on a US stamp, the raw hypocrisy saddens me.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:01 | 5051717 Oldwood
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War makers attempt to convince people that your interests are their interests and worth dying for (but not them).

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:23 | 5051799 JuliaS
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Revolutions are internal wars. Same otherwise. Soon to be upper class convinces the masses to get rid of the old upper class. They are temporarily trained and armed, but beheaded as soon as the job is done, before they can realize nothing changed for them. Egypt, Ukraine... going as far back as the French Revolution. That's been the main model for all of them with short exceptions such as the revolution in Cuba and the American Revolution, both of which were actually wars battling external influences as oppose to inner demons.

In wars and revolutions hidden financiers and agenda setters are involved. They steer the overthrow without exposing themselves. They appoint new leaders, ensure the old ones don't come back, all while remaining fully concealed, out of sight and out of mind. Only by following paper trails you can find out who stages wars and revolutions. They're typically the same group of people - the Fed's, the IMF's, the Bilderbergs etc.

So, I'd say, the only difference between a war and a revolution is that you use people to overthrow either their own or someone else's government for the benefit of the banker. When it is believed the country has sufficient opposition to the rule, coups are financed. When the government has a solid control structures in place, then invasions take place. Other than that, no real difference. Same shit, different country.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:39 | 5051640 Agent P
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The difference is based on whether someone hands you a gun or you decide to pick one up. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:39 | 5051643 Reaper
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The enemy is the sheeple's craving for a king. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." When will the sheeple ever learn? Revolution is the beginning of temporary enlightenment.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:39 | 5051644 Seasmoke
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Just like the redcoats. The enemy likes to wear costumes. Easy to see and find. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:00 | 5052198 Wahooo
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They wear suits and military uniforms.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:34 | 5052729 Salsipuedes
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They also wear cowboy hats, golf hats, baseball caps, skull caps and if they're really despairing, a fedora.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:46 | 5051655 BullyBearish
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The Hunger Games: Catching Fire – Remember who the real enemy is
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:45 | 5051660 Spastica Rex
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When you figure out who the real enemy is.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:49 | 5051671 Fuku Ben
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And the traitors to humanity along with their puppets, propagandists and predictive programmers are out in full force. A war may save their heads from the fate of a revolution.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:49 | 5051672 I Write Code
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Don't care which it is, just wanna win.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:52 | 5051683 lakecity55
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malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:57 | 5051702 Oldwood
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fuckin foreigners!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:13 | 5051766 Debt-Penitent
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I regret having but one up-vote to give for your quote here good sir.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:58 | 5051706 esum
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impale wash dc ..... a good start


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:16 | 5051772 Last of the Mid...
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freedom is always dangerous. By definition an elected representtive government will take any power than you are stupid enough to give them. They should not have their own opinion on anything, their opinion is what the people who elected them tell them their opinion is. This is the crux of the conundrum that will be our downfall. An election is nothing more than a peaceful revolution. Once the economy is captured, donors have more votes than the people who elect the politicians, such as what is going on with the warren buffet's blocking the Keystone XL. At this point the normal self clensing of politicians is hindered or stoppped. The next solution to the problem is not nearly so gentlemanly.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:21 | 5051789 TheEmperor
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The Emperor: [to Darth Vader] Every single Jedi, including your friend Obi-Wan, is now an enemy of the Republic. Do what must be done. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:21 | 5052032 Uncle Remus
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[sound of respirator]

Did you say something? I think my audio cut out.

[sound of respirator]

[sound of light saber being lit]

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:28 | 5051816 Clesthenes
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“What was the end of killing the tyrant, but to be free from tyranny?  A ridiculous motive, and an empty exploit, if our slavery survive him.” Cicero, quoted in Cato’s Letters, #23, p. 169.

The quote by Cicero is part of the legacy won by the American Revolution; not because he said it, but, because the English rebel, John Elliot, authored an example of it.

American Founders relied heavily on English rebels for direction and procedures needed to successfully win their bid for independence; the Petition of Rights of 1628, the Grand Remonstrance of 1640, the so-called Bill of Rights of 1688, among many other milestones of liberty.

One of the more significant items was the resolution introduced by John Elliot by which taxes imposed without the consent of parliament was made a capital offense.  The measure was passed by the House of Commons before Charles dissolved parliament and arrested several members.  Twelve years later, parliament used Elliot’s resolution as the basis to take down judges and tax collectors, a bishop and kings for asserting “the divine right of kings” and imposing taxes that had not received the assent of parliament.

No, I don’t recommend that we kill tyrants and their useful idiots; it would put them out of their misery too soon.  I think it would be much better to recover the booty they took – even if we have to chase them to the ends of the earth.

And, no, we can’t rely on current forums of redress; they are dominated by bandit and useful-idiot classes who will not allow any meaningful investigation – much less, any prosecution – of themselves.  When the Justice Department conceived and directed “Fast and Furious”, did you really expect them to prosecute themselves for it?

Silly season is over; we have to get serious.  If there is to be any redress, we must use the only historically-proven method that has ever brought worthwhile redress: substantially the same method used by American Founders.

The trouble is there is hardly an American today that even suspects the existence of this method: he simply has no knowledge of it.

For example, Founders repeatedly declared that “no man is obligated to obey any law or pay any tax unless he has given consent to it”.  Did they mean this literally?  Of course they did.  From the first English settlement to the Revolution this was how affairs of the colonies were managed.  Every “law” and every “tax” had its origin in contracts between colonial assemblies and those who petitioned for redress of grievances.  The terms of the contract were sometimes referred to as “laws” of the contract while its money payments were treated as “taxes”.  And only petitioners were obligated to obey such “laws” and pay such “taxes”.  When redress was completed, related “laws” and “taxes” expired.

There, in one paragraph I conveyed to you more real history than you learned in 12 years of elementary and high schools, and 4-6 years of university indoctrination.  You won’t learn this and other lessons from professors, or judges, or lawyers; the first two depend on continued grievances for their pensions, the third never learned such history, or law.

This right of consent was won with the Revolution… and who knows it?

This is just one of many examples of real American history and law Americans don’t know; and that they must learn if there is to be any redress relative to a mountain range of grievances.

Until men learn these lessons of history, those who suffer from, and those who complain about, grievances must wallow in a stifling swamp of impotence: that condition where men only pretend at reason, justice, and civilization.

No, it won’t be easy and it won’t be quick.  Unprecedented adventures never are.





Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:08 | 5051973 neuronius
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Great post +1

Please share some resource links, this stuff is so hard to find.

Thank you!


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:10 | 5051980 neuronius
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disregard, i found your links thanks!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:25 | 5053220 Estrella
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Clesthenes great post. While some things are timeless, it is equally true that each time is unique. The structure of our world is very different. The pyramid of power is far steeper then it has ever been before. Twentyfirst Century technology allows for a concentration of power at the top that has never existed before. What worked for a very closely knit, agrarian society, thousands of miles from the seat of power, simply will not work for a very diverse, information technology society, who are ruled, literally, from within their own homes. Again, your post is great, but, really, it does not apply in this situation. Shame.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:34 | 5051830 kchrisc
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Government is only the second greatest enemy. Obedience is the first.


End war, stop obeying.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:44 | 5051875 Freewheelin Franklin
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Revolution implies that the current government will be replaced by a kinder, gentler government. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:55 | 5051917 22winmag
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Fool me once, shame on you.


Fool me twice...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:21 | 5052699 Salsipuedes
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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:23 | 5052048 Uncle Remus
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No, just replaced. And from my vantage point, you're probably not going to like what follows.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:57 | 5051930 robertocarlos
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The part I hate about revolution is after you have taken over leadership and chopped some heads off you suddenly find yourself on the chopping block. When does it end?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:01 | 5051945 Clesthenes
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May I suggest another way to express this distinction?

There are actually two kinds of revolution; I call one a Bolshevik, and the other, an American; after their two more conspicuous examples.

The problem here is that of the thousands of slave uprisings in human history, only three could be called an American revolution: Athens (year -508), English (1620-1650) and, of course, the American.

Another problem is that no one seems to know there is such a distinction, at least, no one else is telling.

In other words, if you call your revolution, “Bolshevik”, and employ principles of a Bolshevik revolution, you will advance the cause of tyranny.  On the other hand, if you call your revolution, “American” and follow Bolshevik principles, you will STILL advance the cause of tyranny.

The name means nothing; principles followed, everything.

And this means, when revolution does come, it will be very bad news; if, that is, your cause is liberty.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:02 | 5051950 alentia
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Putin could not have approved this, why did you post it?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:08 | 5051965 22winmag
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Queue the scene in the movie Swoardfish where Gabriel (Travolta shoots) the treasonous senator through the heart. Gabriel: You tried to kill me. You've misplaced your loyalty, Senator, you've sold out America. Patriotism does not have a four-year shelf-life, but unfortunately politicians do.[Gabriel pulls out a gun] Senator Reisman: Now what are you gonna do with that? Gabriel: Thomas Jefferson once shot a man on the White House lawn for treason. Senator Reisman: Now hold the phone, Thomas Jefferson... (Gabriel shoots the Senator)
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:25 | 5052707 Salsipuedes
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Great. Give good lines to shitty actors. Viva Hollywood!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:09 | 5051979 radiobomb
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Good image & strapline, +1....


before the revolution : the washing-up.

after the revolution : the washing-up.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:12 | 5051983 Kirk2NCC1701
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After Shamans get you to believe in some "Man in the Sky, that you owe him, and that only they can be the middleman",

Then you are truly a slave, and perpetually useful to both Shamans and Rulers. -Kirk

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:51 | 5052704 Salsipuedes
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Zee free agents vill be excommunicated mit extreeeme prejudice! Verstanden sie?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:41 | 5052395 saycheeeese
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revolution against what???  the end of fractional reserve banking !!!???  money for the people instead of people for the money?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:49 | 5052755 gatorboat
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This article is pointless. 

The number of Americans who actually would leave their comfort zone take up arms and head off to "take America back" is so small they couldn't even take a small city much less the whole country.

And it would be total disorganization, chaos.  You couldn't get them to agree on the objective, the plan, the leaders, nothing.

It's nice to sit in your easy chair in your cozy home and dream about taking America back, but it'll never be more than a dream. 

People don't revolt until they get hungry or physically attacked by govt goons. Neither of those will happen on a large enough scale to percipitate a revolt.  Yes it will happen here and there, individual cases, as it does now.   But seeing it happen to someone else doesn't stir Americans to action.   "I just hope they don't come after me" is the typical response.

Face it.  Americans just don't have it in 'em anymore.   Southern states seceding (Civil War) was the last attempt, and Americans have gotten way softer since then.   Lots of bark but no bite.  Lots of talk but no action.

Lots of revolution talk has been going on since 9/11, 13 years now.  Tyranny has gotten really bad, but not one single step has been made toward any sort of revolution.  No objective, no plan, no leadership, no nothing. 

Just daydreaming, wishing, hoping.

That's why those 400 million guns are useless.  Americans just don't have it in 'em anymore.


Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:02 | 5052780 Salsipuedes
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Anybody who had the wits to get up and go get 'em has got up and left Dodge. At this point, "You can check out any time you like but you can never leave." Habla Espanol?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 03:45 | 5052929 bunnyswanson
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There are at least 50,000 people marching across a bridge, who subsequently stopped traffic and clsoed the port down after a young soldier was struck in the head at a OWS event.

Only 994 views.  People like you are so quick to call teh country lazy.  There are people who have quit their jobs adn devoted their life to stopping what is clearly a devised plan to bankrupt america and sell her off including the human resources. 

OWS did a hell of a job until the movement was manipulated by the clowns who run the show called our life.  Teh homeless and crazy people along with infiltrators deliberated caused chaos because that is what they do best.  Create insanity and insanity is hell, I think.


Fuck off

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:44 | 5054221 gatorboat
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Hey idiot, laws aren't made on Wall Street, they're made in Washington DC.  So OWS accomplished nothing ...except turning Central Park into trash dump.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 04:16 | 5052943 grekko
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I don't believe you.  Witness the Bundy Ranch.  It could have ended up with a lot of dead on both sides if the goons started to fire.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:40 | 5053802 gatorboat
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Bundy ranch was pointless.  10,000 times that many should have shown up and they should have been at the US capital where confiscation laws were made that BLM was enforcing.

Bundy ranch was going after the effect, not the cause.   Going after the effect accompishes nothing.  Laws allowing BLM to confiscate cattle are still in effect, they can do it again.

Nothing changes till laws get changed.  Only place laws get changed is Washington DC.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:24 | 5052811 trader1
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I have often heard men, (who I believe were free from party influence) express their wishes, that the claims of the Colonies to an exemption from the authority of Parliament in imposing taxes had been conceded; because they had no doubts that America would have submitted in all other cases; and so this unhappy Rebellion, which has already proved fatal to many hundreds of the Subjects of the Empire, and probably will to many thousands more, might have been prevented.

The Acts for imposing Duties and Taxes may have accelerated the Rebellion, and if this could have been foreseen, perhaps, it might have been good policy to have omitted or deferred them; but I am of opinion, that if no Taxes or Duties had been laid upon the Colonies, other pretences would have been found for [4] exception to the authority of Parliament. The body of the people in the Colonies, I know, were easy and quiet. They felt no burdens. They were attached, indeed, in every Colony to their own particular Constitutions, but the Supremacy of Parliament over the whole gave them no concern. They had been happy under it for an hundred years past: They feared no imaginary evils for an hundred years to come. But there were men in each of the principal Colonies, who had independence in view, before any of those Taxes were laid, or proposed, which have since been the ostensible cause of resisting the execution of Acts of Parliament. Those men have conducted the Rebellion in the several stages of it, until they have removed the constitutional powers of Government in each Colony, and have assumed to themselves, with others, a supreme authority over the whole.

Their designs of Independence began soon after the reduction of Canada, relying upon the future cession of it by treaty. They could have no other pretence to a claim of independence, and they made no other at first, than what they called the natural rights of mankind, to chuse their own forms of Government, and change them when they please. This, they were soon convinced, would not be sufficient to draw the people from their attachment to constitutions under which they had so long been easy and happy: Some grievances, real or imaginary, were therefore necessary. They were so far from holding Acts for laying Duties to be unconstitutional, and, as has been since alledged, meer nullities, that in Massachusetts Bay the General Assembly, about the year 1762, ordered an Action to be brought against the Officers of the Customs, for charges made in the Court of Admiralty, which had caused a diminution of the part of forfeitures to the Province, by virtue of what is called the Sugar Act, passed in the sixth year of George the Second. Surely they would not deny the authority of Parliament to lay the Duty, while they were suing for their part of the penalty for the non-payment of it.


Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:55 | 5052847 Smiley
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That economy aint gonna stimulate itself.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 04:00 | 5052937 barre-de-rire
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you will do nothing you all have too much to loose, revolution after bush jr twice & obama twice...? what a joke, keep printing & play WS.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 05:16 | 5052968 AnAnonymous
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The 'american' revolutionary war, the war for independence etc... These days, 'americans' feel so entitled to their share of loot they afford coming up with new lows in 'american' propaganda.

'Americans' wishing to keep banking on fabricated dichotomies. Could they not show signs of innovation? Djeee, 'americans' keep depicting themselves as innovative, they could show something to back their claim up.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:22 | 5053021 Lebensphilosoph
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Eaten any dogs today?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:22 | 5053019 Lebensphilosoph
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War is a reality. 'Revolution' is a bed time story concocted by leftists.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:00 | 5053147 peaceful
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the truth is most people enjoy being run by other people. They sacrifice their own free will to church, gov't tv. so doubtful we get a revolution

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 07:59 | 5053148 peaceful
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the truth is most people enjoy being run by other people. They sacrifice their own free will to church, gov't tv. so doubtful we get a revolution

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