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First British Minister Resigns Over "Morally Indefensible" Gaza Policy

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While in the US there has been nothing but political propaganda and a constant Obama defense of John Kerry over his disastrous, to date, handling of the deteriorating situation in the middle east, in the UK the internal discord has finally moved beyond merely posturing and has claimed the first political career, when overnight a minister in the Foreign Office, Baroness Warsi, announced she has resigned from the government, saying its policy on the crisis in Gaza is "morally indefensible", is not in Britain's national interest and will have a "long term effect on our reputation internationally and domestically".

She adds that the decision "has not been easy" but there is "great unease" within the Foreign Office over "the way recent decisions are being made." According to BBC, Lady Warsi, who was previously chairman of the Conservative Party, became the first female Muslim cabinet minister when David Cameron took office in 2010. The prime minister thanked her for her "excellent work", adding that he wanted an "unconditional ceasefire" in Gaza.

Labour backed Lady Warsi's comments, but Chancellor George Osborne called her resignation "disappointing and frankly unnecessary". 


Lady Warsi grew up in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, and worked as a solicitor before entering politics. She was demoted from the cabinet to a middle-ranking Foreign Office post in 2012, being made minister for faith and communities at the same time.


She wrote on Twitter on Tuesday: "With deep regret I have this morning written to the Prime Minister & tendered my resignation. I can no longer support Govt policy on #Gaza."


Several backbench Conservative MPs have called on Mr Cameron to take a more robust line with Israel amid concerns its actions in Gaza are "disproportionate".

According to a BBC analysis of her departure, the minister has "chosen a day when the prime minister is away to hand in her resignation. She is the first minister in four years of coalition government to resign over a matter of policy."

She clearly believes - as probably the most prominent British Muslim politician in the country - that she can no longer stand by a prime minister and a government that she feels is using a "morally indefensible" policy when it comes to Israel and the ongoing conflict in Gaza.


She has made it clear that her Muslim faith and her personal beliefs must come before her political beliefs and career.


The Conservatives, traditionally, have close ties to the Israeli government and it is far more difficult for David Cameron and those at the top of his party to speak out more strongly about Israel than others, who have a different policy.

In other words, acting based on her beliefs instead of ulterior lobby interests: strange. Her full letter below:

Dear Prime Minister

For some weeks, in meeting and discussion, I have been open and honest about my views on the conflict in Gaza and our response to it.

My view has been that our policy in relation to the Middle East Peace Process generally but more recently our approach and language during the current crisis in Gaza is morally indefensible, is not in Britain's national interest and will have a long term detrimental impact on our reputation internationally and domestically.

Particularly as the Minister with responsibility for the United Nations, The International Criminal Court and Human Rights I believe our approach in relation to the current conflict is neither consistent with our values, specifically our commitment to the rule of law and our long history of support for International Justice. In many ways the absence of the experience and expertise of colleagues like Ken Clarke and Dominic Grieve has over the last few weeks become very apparent.

This decision has not been easy. It has been a privilege to serve for 3 years in your Shadow Cabinet and over 4 years in your Cabinet. Introducing you in Blackpool in 2005 as you made your bid for leadership I had the pleasure of being there at the start of the journey and it would have been rewarding to have been there til the end.

The last decade has given me the opportunity to work with some of the best in the Conservative Party and indeed in Government. William Hague was probably one of the finest Foreign Secretaries this country has seen and has been inspirational. He dismantled foreign policy making by sofa government and restored decision making and dignity to the Foreign Office. There is however great unease across the Foreign Office, amongst both Minister and senior officials, in the way recent decisions are being made.

Eric Pickles has supported me tirelessly in our work on combating hate crime. Challenging anti-Semitism and Islamaphobia and the pioneering work of celebration faith in the public sphere. This new found confidence in Government has allowed me to take the very public International lead on religious freedom, specifically on the ever growing crisis of the persecution of Christians. However, early evidence from the Home Office and others shows that the fallout of the current conflict and the potential for the crisis in Gaza and our response to it becoming a basis for radicalisation could have consequences for us for years to come.

From both Eric and William I learnt the art of reconciling passion and idealism with pragmatism and realism, but I always said that long after life in politics I must be able to live with myself for the decisions I took or the decisions I supported. By staying in Government at this time I do not feel I can be sure of that.

It is therefore with regret that I am writing to resign.

You will continue to have my personal support as leader of the Conservative party as you continue to ensure that our Party evolves to meet the challenges we face in Britain today and ensure that the Party is relevant and responsive to all communities that make up today's Britain.

Yours sincerely



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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:48 | 5048140 Sudden Debt
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and worked as a solicitor before entering politics...


isn't solicitation about the same as playing hooker?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:52 | 5048156 junction
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The Israeli attacks on Gaza are now coming to an end,  attacks that coincided almost exactly with the Islamic State (IS) attacks on Kurdish positions that sent the Kurd forces packing.  IS had superior firepower.  If Netanyahu had wanted to create a news diversion for the IS killers, he could not have done a better job.  The question now is, who is Netanyahu's organ grinder?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:54 | 5048161 fightthepower
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She doesn't look British. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:58 | 5048177 Cacete de Ouro
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That's an idiotic comment, and also ignorant and racist

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:00 | 5048192 COSMOS
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Like when did the Brits ever have a good reputation to begin with? Sorry but am I missing something in the history of that floating island turd.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:06 | 5048231 Sean7k
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A queen and aristocracy that has spent over three hundred years hooking people on heroin and opium as a wealth transfer and control mechanism? Those british? Or the central banking turds who's goal in life is debt slavery? The one's with the zionists advising their every action? 

Quite a legacy...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:16 | 5048279 Stackers
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Yeah, someone needs to clue this ding bat into the fact that Britian lost all moral defensibility over 200 years ago. She had no problem being part of government whose past actions include .... slavery, illegal drug trafficking, war profiteering, and colonialization and subjugation of half the planet ... to name a few ...... But bomb a few psychopathic militant zealots and now it's too much for her to be a part of ?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:24 | 5048313 Theosebes Goodfellow
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One can only presume that she wants the British government to support Hamas in its genocide wishes for Israel. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it:

Great Britain has a Muslim problem.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:46 | 5048427 my_nym
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Why do they need to support a side, after being terrorized by Zionists themselves in the Lavon Affair and on 7/7 and tangentially on 9/11? 


As far as genocide goes:  Israeli Lawmaker calls for Palestinian Genocide

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:47 | 5049452 knukles
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She must be very wealthy with either a Harley Street dentist of full false teeth.
Or she did not grow up in the UK.
I know.
I used to sometimes think twice before french kissing the gals with all their rotten teeth.
(Sometimes... as in depending upon alcohol intake)

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:54 | 5049495 Davalicious
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She has taken a long time to come out and say this. Her history is as an opportunity. She has no qualifications or qualities for her post. She is just there as a brown, female, muslim. Obviously she has come under a lot of pressure from other muslims and now she is jumping ship ahead of any letter bombs.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:05 | 5049991 my_nym
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It's Islamic terrorism on the one side or Talmudic terrorists on the other.  Reasonable people can't pick a side.


You say letter bombs.  I say, research the anthrax attacks that were meant to follow up and actually connect Iraq to the matrix of terrism in the corporate media and 911 by means of deception.  I mean, by means of sending Colon "the dupe" Powell to the U.N. to talk about "mobile weapons" labs so that the goyim golem of Team America would want to search people's underpants for WMDs in Iraq.  Etc.

And then come home to search their own damned underpants before their veterans with any sense of decency go off and kill themselves, etc.  Enter the Talmudic terrorist Chertoff and his Islamic underwear bomber.  It's almost as if someone invented the Islamic religion, isn't it?  But that's another story.

Iraq and 911 in Minutes

Because I know that dumb goy have short attentions spans.  For that matter, so do chosen racists of god and the Israelis these days.  That's why the most likely scenario is that they destroy themselves.  Hopefully they won't blow up or terrorize the world anymore in the process.  But there's always the Sampson Option.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:32 | 5048662 ajax
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In case you missed it, Sir Gerald Kaufman's comments on "Operation Cast Lead" and criticism of Tzipi Livni in January 2009:

and from February 2014:

Try to imagine any member of US Congress or Senate speaking in such terms...



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:27 | 5049336 Iwanttoknow
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Sir Kaufman must be a self-hating jew.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:45 | 5048748 DaveyJones
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That's funny the oilman tells me great Muslim has a Britain problem

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:49 | 5048777 blentus
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You have a bit of a problem too. You are a fucking idiot.

Why is it that you mongoloids always assume that if someone doesn't like thing X, they must therefore like thing Y?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:58 | 5048804 john39
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much of Europe has a problem with mass immigration.  but, the real bad actor is the hidden hand that set up a system to force immigration on the native populations, while destroying the countries from which the immigrants come.  both the natives and the immigrants are pawns in a zionist game.   its really so simple and diabolical.   you see, while the zionists need the host nations (UK, US, Canada etc) they plan to eventually destroy the cultures of each country, and if you are paying attention, you can see that plan is already very far along.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:28 | 5048987 The.Harmless.Jew
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Fantastically accuate post John.


That's the trouble with the bigotted underclasses who keep on and on venting their spleen at "Muslims" in their country etc...


I mean for a start not all muslims are the same etc.... some drink & gamble, some love to shag birds on a friday night whilst the later is juggling her fish n' chips at the same time. 


Sure, you've got the nutcases protesting and calling for ISIS for europe - but consider that population size from 1.8 billion.  Consider also, that most of the trouble makers are actually "british" or "european" born.  Malcontents or perhaps people frozen out of a wider society. Who knows.


I just find it ironic that - in particular - from people in an ISLAND  (UK) - to talk about foreigners.  It's a fucking island - EVERYONE came to it from somewhere! 


Look, most of the immigrants in France are from French colonial rule, most of the immigrants in the UK are from British colonial rule. 


Currently in London, and whilst speaking to some Doctors and PhD Scientists from Iraq (REAL PhDs not ones in economics like the Zionists that rule the FED!), I came to appreciate that these people were happy in their Iraqi swimming pool homes, seeing their Iraqi Dinar worth approx US Dollars!  Spending lots of cash in the UK and USA whilst on holidays....


Now post western wars, plots and sanctions, the country is fucked, they much less care about its currency value.  Where do they go? What's left of their fate thanks to Zionist wars and wars waged on them personally it seems. 


The feel some affinity to the UK; some of them are educated here, they speak the language, they are familiar with the culture, and a lot of them still recall the archives which showed Winston Churchill chemically attack their homes and farms all these years ago.


So to the little-englanders who who like to wear black shirts at night, and love to sleep with Hitler / Nick Griffin / Nigel Farage blow-up dolls:  Think about a solution instead of being part of the Zionist Hatred plan.



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:05 | 5049244 AvoidingTaxation
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This comes with my thanks, and best wishes for the future.

Yours ever,


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:27 | 5050136 my_nym
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Lol.  So you see it. 


They can't lose.  When things get out of (the hidden) hand among the dumb goyim then that creates immigration to Israel and powers Zionism.  Once the Jewish supremacist Sarkozy was done with France and managing the multiculturalism of the goyim/tribes there, then the failure of "multiculturalism" creates Zionism and immigration to Israel.  But if it doesn't, then a Judaic oligarchy can usually be established by securing the banking system and destabilizing all the goy into "multicult" voting blocs that can continually and rather easily be divided. Dumb as they are. 

After all, the dumb goyim seldom demand that Judaics intermarry and open the borders of the gated or closed communities (full of insider traders) or the closed borders of their own nation (full of traitors to other nations and dual citizens) that they usually begin to maintain. 

It's worth noting that Jewish supremacists like Donald "It's my culture." Sterling don't even understand this.  They do not think of themselves as racial supremacists.  Otherwise they probably would be supremacists.  Nor does the average Israeli peasant understand it.  It's not as if they sit around in a smoke filled room and plan such things like Moses Hess, Marx's rabbi did.  (If they lost ruling through Communism, as they did.  Then Zionism would arise and they could rule through that, on cue... as predicted by Hess.)  Because some of the brighter bulbs actually have and do plan for bringing order out of apparent chaos through the dialectical process of Left vs. Right or Communism (usually financed by Jewish bankers) vs. Capitalism/Zionism (usually financed by Jewish bankers), etc....  but most do not. 


Not even an oligarchic ownder of the dumb goyim/tribes/teams like Donald Sterling necessarily knows why his culture is the way it is.  After all, for most it is just the way it is.  But for the rabbinic cultivators of cultures and secular versions of their "diabolical"/dialectical culture?  They do tend to know what they're doing. 


"Father forgive them, for they know what they do."  --Karl Kraus  Whether they sit on the Right or the Left.

There again, the peasants and the people that aren't a member of the club or the Talmudic/Masonic secret societies to the 33rd degree at 33 Liberty Street (And what not...  it's all quite confusing, apparently.) might begin to know what they do.  And do it anyway.  What then?  Just saying.       

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:29 | 5048333 Ignatius
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"But bomb a few pyschopathic militant zealot..." 10 year old soccer players on the beach?

If the zionist position were right/strong they wouldn't have to lie as routine.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:51 | 5048455 Duffy
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:30 | 5048339 john39
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yes, but still... we all need to take back control of our contries from the zionist infiltration.  So, I see this as another positive development.  Zionism and Israel have now lit themselves on fire.  its only a matter of time before the rest of the world stomps out the fire.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:48 | 5048435 my_nym
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its only a matter of time before the rest of the world stomps out the fire.


With what, borrowing billions more in debt/money into existence from Jewish bankers to finance more bombs?



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:58 | 5048486 Duffy
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john they will ethnically cleanse Gaza and more of the WB, always claiming it is necessary fo security, an the world will do nothing.

It's not genocide, or a war crime, or reprehensible and barbaric when the Jewish State does it, you know. 


You know the title of Henry Ford's book.  I think it's time to look at it as a transnational force - the proverbial squid.  It's not just the US, but Canada, the UK, France, australia, as well as Russia and Ukraine and plenty of other places where Jews are a tiny fraction of the population but half or more of the millionaires, disproportionaely own the media, and of course have very deep pockets for elections.


Next time an election rolls around google "Jewish vote" then compare it to any other group.  "Latino vote" likely comes closest, and there are 12-15 times as many Latino voters [who are mainly but not all Catholic].  "Jewish vote" is euphemism for Jewish $$$, althugh they are concentrated in just a few states - still the massive coverage and catering to "the Jewish vote" makes no numerical sense.

Meanwhile, the way American foreign policy has been hijacked here has been repeated in the UK, Canada and australia, all places with dozens of Jewish and Zionist lobbies, and a 5th column of Jewish Zionists more loyal to International Zionism/Jewry than to their host countries.


This doesn't mean "most" but it means, obviously, a large and wealthy minority. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:04 | 5048517 john39
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yes, many of can see what they are trying to do...  which is why they will not succeed.  stay tuned for the show of many lifetimes.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:46 | 5049083 SmackDaddy
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dont disagree with what youre saying, but so many here seem to lump them all in the same zionist bucket.  ive linked my buddy to some articles from here but first i had to warn him about the comments section.  it's cool and all, we're both believers in the first amendment. now im always asking him to bring me along to the "world domination meetings".  he assures me he'll take me as soon as he gets his invite.  my points being:  he's as jewish as i am catholic (which is to say we both figured at a very young age religion was bullshit) and the average jew has about as much in common with the rothschilds as I do with the queen of england.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:29 | 5049346 The.Harmless.Jew
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Ticked you up SmackDaddy, because I agree with you in princple.


I have many jewish friends and dated many too, and I can honestly say that most of them are humble, and economically speaking, are firmly on the weak side of the financial bell-curve.


The trouble I had - still have! - with many of my friends is that they still buy into this Zionism mantra, and can't wait to absolve the israelis and pin blame on the world etc.... The problem is that they are scared.  They feel that an attack on Zionism is an attack on Jews.  Which in my view isn't the case, and shouldn't be the case.


My personal dislike for Zionist "jews" including greenspan and bernanke and yellen is way way below my dislike for Zionists like Tony Blair, Joe Biden, and the house of Saud (oh I assure you, they are Zionist-proper).


Zionism is the problem. 



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:42 | 5049414 Frank N. Beans
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well said. 

(Except the queen of England is protestant of course, not catholic.)

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:31 | 5048344 medium giraffe
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Empires = cunts.

Some people within those empires = not cunts.

It's very simple, no?


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:41 | 5048393 spellbound
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More psychopathic than the zionist zealots?!?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:52 | 5048452 what's that smell
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First British Minister Resigns Over "Morally Indefensible" Gaza Policy


First British Minister Resigns Over "Morally Indefensible" Gaza Genocide



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:52 | 5049154 Grimaldus
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Genocide is next door in syria. 170,000 plus muslims, killed by muslims. Millions of syrian refugees! Not a peep from the progressive dhimmis here on ZH. 

Soon ISIS in iraq will put up the same numbers, they kill 1500 iraqi muslims a week. Funny all the progressive dhimmi's here are silent when it comes to murdering islam.

Muslims Hack Off Christian Man's Head After Forcing Him to Deny Jesus Christ and Salute Mohammed as 'Messenger of God'

A Christian man in Syria recently had his head brutally hacked off by Islamic militants after being forced to deny his faith and salute Mohammed as "the messenger of God".

The incident was caught on video for the world to see and broadcast as a warning to "everyone like him".

In the video that was posted to YouTube with translated captions, the helpless Christian man is surrounded by armed militants wearing masks and he is heard reciting as instructed: "There is no God but God and I testify that Mohammed is the messenger of God."

An apparent leader in the group of militants is then heard instructing the group: "No one will shoot him now, do you understand? He will not be killed by shooting because it is merciful for him."

"He will be beheaded because he is Kaffir, non-Muslim, sided [with] the government and was not praying at all. Everyone like him will have the same end, beheading," said the militant.

A militant armed with a machete then grabs the defenseless man by the hair and begins to cut his head from his body as the group cries "Allahu Akbar…there is no God but God."


There will be no peace with the murderers of islam. Remember that all you dhimmis, they are coming for you too.



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:26 | 5049331 Muh Raf
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F*ck off you spacker. We already know ISIL are just a mossad extension:

Yes the Jews are coming to cut off your heads, dressed like Muslims. Anyone remember the "Young Turk" holocaust of Armenians, it turned out that 70,000 jews operating out of Salonika actually pretended to be Turkish Muslims and overthrew the Ottoman Khilifaat through treason from within and then immediately set about a holocaust of Armenian Christians? Strange how for the preceding 400 years the Turkish Muslims and Armenian Christians had lived peacefully side by side. Hmmm. Yes, it must have been "a 400 year steady build up of religious tensions that suddenly turned into a slaughter fest". Kinda like how WTC7 had been the first skyscraper to burn to the ground at freefall 9.81ms2 - it was bound to happen eventually huh, just a coincidence this quantum event occured on the day a couple of other freefall tower incidents. Yes history is full of these sorts of coincidences and it is medieval superstition to read too much into them.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:47 | 5048418 Urban Redneck
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There is an etiquette to letters of resignation. And that was a relatively polite but very clear, "Fuck U, Fuck your dumb ideas, and Fuck the incompetent ass clowns you empower."

And there is also a tarring and feathering that must be done of anyone who dares to walk off the reservation of the False Dichotomy tribe.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:53 | 5049901 Zero Govt
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actually this is the 1st British politician with a backbone since WWII

most are shoulderless weasels bred in public schools

I commend her 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:42 | 5048398 AnAnonymous
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They only did that when they entered the 'american' era of things.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:16 | 5048260 Croesus
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And it's COSMOS, for the win! Slavery, drug-dealing, murder, fomenting wars, child abuse...all part of the tradition of British leadership. While I don't hate Brits-of-all-kinds, the "average Joe" types lose my support, through THEIR continued support of their scumbag system, and the people running it.

The people running that little POS island are responsible for more misery in the world than anyone else, including Stalin, or Hitler. 

How about a map that says it all? Countries that have NOT been invaded by England:

Even used a British source.

Brits, or persons of British ancestry - Your system of government through the centuries can't even get along with the people who share the same island with you. Stop defending the indefensible. London is the poster-child of the surveillance state, yet crime levels have increased since you were all disarmed. Your politicians do you an incredible disservice, with the exception of Nigel Farage. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:14 | 5048272 Ghordius
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then I presume you don't know much of the very complex history of that island. that has brought us some of the best and some of the worst, and has shaped the world way more than any other nation

I do a lot of comments against British policies, but all in all I'd find it fair to declare the UK in aggregate as a positive force in the world's history

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:18 | 5048291 Sean7k
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How could they ever generate a positive result? `Have you asked any of the colonies that got away?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:31 | 5048350 Ghordius
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and? what is wrong about them? I can't believe that I'm defending "Oceania", here, but here it is... do you have a particular colony in mind? the list is quite long

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:58 | 5048490 Duffy
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Scotland? Wales? Ireland? 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:15 | 5048574 Ghordius
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well, Scotland is getting a referendum, isn't it? from your avatar I presume you'll vote a resounding yes

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:52 | 5049163 Lebensphilosoph
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But, you see, he'd rather he and his countrymen were still donning kilts and living in stone hovels north of Hadrian's Wall. They may have their Hume and Maxwell, and we our Essex lads, but I'll give you two guesses as to where people of his kind have done their darndest to keep the level of human civilisation for the last five thousand years.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:53 | 5049169 Lebensphilosoph
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Civilising barbaric peasants?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:34 | 5048672 Sean7k
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India, China, South Africa, the US, Afganistan, Pakistan, Ireland. More importantly, what they do behind the scenes, the takeover of the US after the Civil War, the drug trades, behaviour modification through music, drugs and sex. Tavistock institute? The muslim brotherhood and egypt? Somalia. The East African protectorate (Kenya). The CIA via MI-6. Gladio. 

Please, what are the positives?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:27 | 5048323 Croesus
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Opium wars? Slavery? India? Abadan? The City? Subjugation of billions of people through the centuries? Wholesale endorsement of murdering millions more? Dragging the US into 2 unnecessary World Wars for "fun and profit"? 

Positive Force?


Forget the Beatles, or the Stones. In this context, they don't count. The Brits have a horrible track record:

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism"

Couldn't have said it any better myself. 


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:36 | 5048357 Ghordius
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I wrote "in aggregate"

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:43 | 5048403 Zerozen
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Not that I adore the Brits or anything, but using the slavery thing as an example of how bad they were is laughable. The Brits were among the first to abolish it, and because of their power and influence at the time they were essentially the driving force behind getting it abolished worldwide.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:50 | 5048448 CuttingEdge
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Kinda ironic its a Kenyan who his doing his level best to bring slavery back to the cotton fields...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:58 | 5048489 Croesus
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@ Zerozen: 

REALLY? Sure about that? Please tell me WHEN the Brits were among the first to abolish slavery?

Add that to your reading list. Abadan was modern-day slavery at its finest, and took place well into the 20th century. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:04 | 5048515 Zerozen
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The answer is 1838.

I could be off by a decade or two, I'm recalling from memory.

You're welcome.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:33 | 5048668 Croesus
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@ Zerozen: 

Please buy, beg, borrow, or steal a copy of that book I linked to - British slavery continued well-into the 20th century. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:38 | 5048682 Sean7k
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Zerozen has forgotten the use of germans as slaves in British industry after the WWII and the rates they were sold at and paid. As well as the poor houses? Why do you need a slave trade when you can do the same thing with debt and taxes via cenral banking? How naive...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:09 | 5048868 Croesus
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@ Sean7k: 

You obviously know your history - Kudos for speaking the truth! The part that galls me, is the idea that Brits have this supposedly great concept of "sportsmanship" and fairness. 

Nothing could be further from the truth. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:54 | 5049176 Sean7k
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That we all yearned to see history in it's neutral state...keep up the good work.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:09 | 5049266 Croesus
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You too, homey! 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:15 | 5049289 Lebensphilosoph
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Do I really need to be pointed to another compilation of doggerel pointing the finger of blame at the white man for every failure of the Third World? "The roots of Middle Eastern terror" ... yeah, the typical leftist thought process that every criminal must have had a good reason for beign driven to his crime. I already know what the root of Middle Eastern terror is: it begins with an M and ends in a D.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:42 | 5048405 AnAnonymous
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The 'american' middle class work in aggregate.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:00 | 5048501 Thought Processor
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Subjugation by London is as strong as ever, though in the present day most of it is masked and not apparent to the masses.


Their history of large scale, planned, and strategic abuses of entire cultures are without a doubt some of the worst crimes against humanity ever commited.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:04 | 5049236 Lebensphilosoph
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Opium wars?

And ingenious if dastardly reaction to systemic Chinese racism aganist foreigners?



We ended it? As opposed to it being practised in perpetuity by virtually every other nation on earth?



The best thing to ever happen to the subcontinent in a long history of foreign rule?



Enjoying the fruits of our oil-based economy, eh?


Subjugation of billions of people through the centuries?

As opposed to their local chiftains, warlords, dictators, or other gods-in-the-flesh doing it? Billions now, was it?

Wholesale endorsement of murdering millions more?

Millions? A figure you sucked out of your thumb?

Dragging the US into 2 unnecessary World Wars for "fun and profit"?

At this point it's clear you are a moral imbecile.






Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:08 | 5048523 williambanzai7
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Well they did advance the science of piracy in more ways than one...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:19 | 5049306 Lebensphilosoph
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Ever taken a look into what men get up to in the private company of boys in the Middle East?


Even the Eton lads have a lot to learn.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:19 | 5048290 MeMongo
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Jimmy saville!

Need Mongo say more?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:46 | 5048428 Dugald
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Floating turd hmmmmmm

Ever hear the story of Noah and his Arc, well, pears after being afloat for some time the animal excrement was building something powerful, Noah, basically a farmer was reluctant to dump it over the side, well the poo was keeping pace with the flooding, so Noah just had to unload for the safety of the vessel.

Waul, long years later this guy Columbus happended along, yup, you know the rest....

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:38 | 5048689 F0ster
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I'm a Brit and quote honesty this a true comment. Our public have a decent reputation but it is our British aristocracy who created the advanced slavery we live in to. Israel was also of our doing and we live with the consequences of this decision and many others. It's. It racist when it's true people.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:43 | 5049095 ILLILLILLI
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You might find this site interesting. It examines the legacy of lies put forth by the Zionists, in explict detail and without reservation:


The book mentioned is an exceptional compendium of the most relevant documents by all of the major players. When a reference is made to the material contained in this book, Zionists immediate revert to personal attacks...because the truth of the matter is indefensible. The history of the matter is so replete with deception that the Zionists always insist in couching the argument in terms of the present, because they know that their position is unjustified based on the true history.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:37 | 5048690 F0ster
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I'm a Brit and quite honesty this a true comment. Our public have a decent reputation but it is our British aristocracy who created the advanced slavery we live in to. Israel was also of our doing and we live with the consequences of this decision and many others. It's. It racist when it's true people.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:59 | 5048197 Lebensphilosoph
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Ignorant of what exactly?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:17 | 5048287 Ghordius
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of the fact that British is a national identity that is not linked to race (or religion)

in fact even the word "Anglo-Saxon* betrays the merger of two main racial identities, the Anglii and the germanic Saxons, together with original Celts, later Romans, some Viking and even later Normans

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:27 | 5048318 Zerozen
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Yes, now notice how your knowledgeable definition of the ethnic background of Britain does not include:




and Polish construction workers

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:30 | 5048345 Lebensphilosoph
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All of them being closely-related Indo-Europeans of historically intemingled lineages. In other words, for our purposes, of the same race to which 'Britishness' was de facto linked until we passed the middle of the last century and implicitly changed the meaning of the word.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:44 | 5048419 Ghordius
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what? I thought the EU forced you to do that. quite a feat, since it did not even exist

Since this whole article's comment section is deteriorating beyond the pale, a nice little detour in 20th Century silliness: aren't Pakistani mostly a mixture between the very "Aryan" races of Persians and Indo-German Indians? At least I remember some very racist authors claiming that

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:32 | 5049357 Lebensphilosoph
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My opposition is to the EU, not to a unified Western Europe.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:36 | 5048370 Lebensphilosoph
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Not that I particularly care one way or the other. What I do care about is the fact that a person who adheres to an ideology he places before and above the ultimately Greco-Roman/Judeo-Christian ideas which form the foundation of Great Britain, in the case that this ideology contradicts those very ideas, is decidedly not British.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:50 | 5048450 Ghordius
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and what does the Defender of the Faith say about that? The Governor of the Church of England?

actually, I find she is a fine example of Britishness. judging by her willingness to resign in protest

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:30 | 5049349 Lebensphilosoph
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The Church of England has been heretical since the time of Thomas Cranmer, but nowadays it is in outright apostasy. I have nothing whatsoever to say to an 'Archbishop' who is neither a legitimate bishop nor a defender of the Christian faith, at least. If you want to be sure about how 'Britishness' deals with rockets being fired at its cities, look up Bomber Command and a first-rate fellow named Arthur.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:15 | 5049753 gallistic
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Let me see if I understand you correctly.

The Brits are known for their willingness to resign in protest, and this quality is an example of "Britishness"?

Or are you referring to "standing on principle" as the true mark of "Britishness"?

Ghordius, no offense, down arrows, or animosity, but it seems to me you are on the losing side of that argument.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:02 | 5048508 Duffy
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English, Welsh and Scottish are ethnicities heretofore, along with the Irish [at least some of them] comprised the British.

British was essentially used to mean of these 4 highly-related peoples.

On the other hand "Jewish" signifies a group of perhaps dozens of inter-related religious cults, all ethnocentric to varying degrees, but it is treated as an ethnicity, falsely, for purposes of secular arguments of homeland.


'she doesn't look British' is a fair statement within British vernacular, whether or not you approve.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:01 | 5048201 Grinder74
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Given her name and complexion, she appears to be of non-Anglo/Saxon descent.  It seems also that she was corrupted into the death cult otherwise known as Islam.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:38 | 5048695 gh0atrider
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Complexion?  Most original Britons, Celts, etc were quite dark and swarthy.  Like most original central Europeans.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:53 | 5049911 CuttingEdge
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Celts swarthy?

Try ginger, with skin either extremely pale or the colour of a lobster thermidore.

I should know - they turn up here on the costas every year with predominantly Welsh, Scottish or Irish accents.



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:01 | 5048203 Zerozen
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What does a British person look like?

Well, they don't look like Arabs.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:04 | 5048211 Lebensphilosoph
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Nor does she.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:12 | 5048265 Zerozen
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Fine, then. Pakistani. Indian. Brown person from the former British Empire. Take your pick.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:20 | 5048284 Mercury
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The UK should have a law that requires naturalized citizens to give themselves and their children silly British names like "Eric Pickles" (in paragraph 6).

Assimilation works better than multi-culturalism as this epidode demonstrates

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:23 | 5048309 StychoKiller
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Are you implying that "Miles Cowperthwaite" is silly?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:05 | 5048213 COSMOS
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What did the Romans look like then Genius?  They left a hefty portion of their gene pool in the loins of the British women for centuries.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:10 | 5048254 Zerozen
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You didn't discredit what I said in any way, dipshit.

Britain/England as a state, in the whole history of its existence, has not included Arabs as part of its ethnic makeup.

If I tell you that the Romans were "not Chinese", are you also going to tell me I'm wrong?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:16 | 5048277 COSMOS
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Listen moron, in the Times of the Roman Republic you couldnt tell a Roman apart from any other Dark curly haired, brown eyed, olive skinned person living aroudn the Mediterranean.  But then you did get zeroes on all your history exams lol

Hey change the paper bag for gods sake, you reek.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:22 | 5048303 Ghordius
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interestingly, this view is quite wrong. we know from many sources that a sizable portion of Roman nobility had blond hair and fair eyes. for example blue-eyed Augustus and blond Tiberius

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:28 | 5048316 COSMOS
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Dude this was after they got all the slave girls with blond hair and blue eyes.  Look at pottery from the times of the Republic and before (like Etruscan) and show me one shard with a blond hair fair eyed Roman lol.  Look at Greek pottery also.  Lots of Greeks city states early on in Sardinia, Sicily, and even Mainland Italy

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:29 | 5048334 Zerozen
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I'm still waiting to hear you explain how "British are not Arabs" and "Romans were not Chinese" are false statements.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:44 | 5048423 COSMOS
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Well since Europeans originally came from the fertile crescent that is the middle east, the brits are arabs lol

Man you should brush up on early Euro history, or did you fail to show up to class those days.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:56 | 5048479 Zerozen
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Well since Europeans originally came from the fertile crescent that is the middle east, the brits are arabs lol

Holy fuck, are you serious? I guess this is the point where I quit this thread. This argument will give me a headache if I continue much longer.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:42 | 5048396 Lebensphilosoph
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Spare me.


Would you care to tell us who the slave girl was in Octavian's ancestry?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:04 | 5048481 COSMOS
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LOL that was a good one, especially the Etruscan one since that is early early Roman times.  I nearly threw up my cereal when I saw that frieze hahahaha...then I realized something that helped me keep from throwing up my cereal, and that was.....

Ok so they had some ALBINOS, what does that prove?  ahhahahahaha

Look obviously my point is proved, you see how dark and curly haired they really were.  Now you got this albino on the left that got painted because he was an oddity.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:03 | 5048512 Ghordius
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Homer describes Menelaus and most of the Achaean leaders as blond, including Odysseus. Many Greek gods were described as blond, including Athena, Hera, Apollo and Aphrodite. The Roman gens Flavius... Flavius means blond, and Rufus and Rutilius means red-haired. Emperor Nero is described by Suetonius as blond

but for the image-fixated, here, the "bikini girls" depicted in a roman villa's mosaics

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:09 | 5048538 COSMOS
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So they bleached their hair to stand out from the common folk.  Look dude, the ancient Germans used to dye their hair red before battle and they would smear red pigment on their naked bodies to look more fierce.

Those slave girls on that mosaic are from northern europe so what.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:23 | 5048619 Seek_Truth
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You really need to do some research before posting. Let's just say history and genetics aren't your strong suite.

It was the Celts that fought naked and smeared themselves with chalk and paint in battle, not the Saxons.

Fifteen minutes on Google before you post again, promise?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:27 | 5048641 Duffy
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it was the Celts? Are you sure?


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:07 | 5048862 Seek_Truth
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Look Duffy,
Just how many history challenged people are there on ZH?

Yes, Celts! Don't tell me, you think Celts only refers to the British Islands, right?

Actually the Celts originated in Mainland Europe:


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:00 | 5049212 AnAnonymous
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Mainland Europe? It is funny: under the pressure of 'americans', with their racialist mindset, Asia is more and more moved to Europe.

Celts did not come from Mainland Europe. They came from Asia. Just as Russia is an asiatic country.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:40 | 5049409 Lebensphilosoph
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Quite right: Western Asia was originally white.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:23 | 5048622 Ghordius
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slave girls work. the bikini girls... play, and use weights to exercise, which is what you do to keep your body in shape when you don't do manual work

Dorians, for example, were predominantly blond, and we have many accounts of them being so. later, after they invaded Greece from the north, one of their colonies became... Sparta

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:40 | 5049396 Lebensphilosoph
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And this, my dear ZH'ers, is called cognitive dissonance.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:25 | 5048311 Lebensphilosoph
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Britain was not a Roman province at the time of the Republic.  As for Roman being indistinguishable from persons living all over the Mediterranean of our times, I'm afraid that Roman art and literature agree with you about as much as your version of Roman history agrees with established chronology.


But it's all moot anyway, since the Roman influence on male lineages in Britain is not significant at all.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:31 | 5048347 COSMOS
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Give me some links.  All the mosaics I recall had brown hair and brown eyes.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:15 | 5048565 Seek_Truth
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You couldn't possibly more wrong.

The ancient Romans were Caucasian, a white race.

It wasn't until near the collapse of the Roman Empire that the Moors and Basques contributed significantly to the gene pool, at which point the olive skin you associate with modern Italians, not to be confused with Ancient Romans, came into play.

However, in northern Italy to this day, and throughout much of western Italy and elsewhere, white skin still predominates.

The same is true of Spain and Portugal.

That is why white Italians and other whites came to use the perjoritive "Guinea" in reference to olive skinned Italians.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:22 | 5048605 COSMOS
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Wrong seeker, the northern italians are light cause that is where most of the Lombardians settled, as far as the Spaniards and Portugese, they got a heavy dose of Ostrogoth, Visigoth and some Vandal Germanic blood in them.  The Germanic tribes spread all over Europe and there is no European nation that does not have significant Germanic blood in its veins.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:32 | 5048661 Seek_Truth
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You are an idiot.

Again, fifteen minutes spent actually reading the links I posted, or doing some research yourself, would have disproved your assertion that ancient Romans were anything but White!

Your link about Lombards and other northern tribes was already mentioned in the link I posted about GENETIC studies of Ancient Romans.
You continue to post your blather here without ever checking the facts.

You clearly aren't interested in the truth.

Keep on posting in ignorance, you uneducated troglodyte.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:13 | 5048901 COSMOS
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Dude none of your posts discounts the fact that I said the ancient romans were dark haired and dark brown eyes with olive skin.  Think about the words INDOEUROPEAN, people in India that are Aryans have a darker complexion yet they are still same blood.  So the Latins are the same, a darker complexion.  What you think all Indo Europeans are supposed to be lily white with blond hair and blue eyes.  You are the ignorant and uneducated pompous ahole

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:37 | 5049027 Seek_Truth
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You don't know what Indo-European means, admit it.

It means they are CAUCASIAN idiot.

I can tell you have never studied genetics, as you clearly don't know what the R1x haplogroups are. Here's a clue: it means their skin was WHITE, that they were CAUCASIAN!

Here's another one for you, you uneducated twit:
What race spoke/speaks Indo-European languages?
Here's another clue, nitwit:
Why that would be WHITE, CAUCASIAN peoples.

Now, if you want to continue to argue genetics and linguistics, go take a course at a local College, as you are clearly unfit and incapable of doing your own research or comprehending what you read. Or just stick to your ignorant confirmation bias and prove yourself to be a willful idiot.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:38 | 5049381 Sean7k
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Your citation shows R1a groups having a distribution of 2.5% in Italy. This is a northern europe grouping. Further, reading the article, it becomes clear they are unsettled as to groupings and whom made them up. (Interesting citation though, thanks). There appears to be substantial presence of russian, chinese and arabic as well. 

Further, they are depending on a small sample. Not good science. 

Not taking a position on your arguments, but from your citation, you can't prove anything.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:30 | 5049668 Seek_Truth
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The R1a reference is but one of many genetic studies, taken along with linguistics studies that show that Indo-European languages were spoken by White races. Look at the list of countries where these languages were spoken, all white race Countries. The combined results of genetics and linguistic studies is more than sufficient.

The references were succinct. I have made my point, and it is based on exhaustive research. You may do further research on your own if you wish, which will lead you to the same conclusion.

FYI, I have provided more than enough references throughout this thread. You might want to take a look at those as well. I've been involved in this field of research since the late 1990's.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:54 | 5050351 Sean7k
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There is nothing "succinct" about your citations (which are actually one). Every assertion is predicated on "might" and "maybe". You do know what "indo" refers to? It isn't white people. We are talking about the mesopotamean crescent culture. There are even references to central africa- not a lot of white culture there. 

You are making huge assumptions. The Celts were seafaring mercenaries. Your citations refer to thousands of years of mixing. In short, there is nothing definitive in your research here. It is a hope and a prayer.They have groups moving from china to britain and everywhere in between. Rome is referred to as a melting pot, prior to the goths and vandals.

For either of you to be definitive on the color of the people is just laughable. As for your time of study, please read the history of the astrophysicist Hubble. Time does not equate with fact.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:00 | 5050754 Seek_Truth
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One citation huh?

You are either very lazy, don't know how to search a thread, or don't know how to do research using the internet and others sources.

I'm going with all three.

Get back to me after you've researched the subject for fifteen years and make a good living on it, sonny!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:25 | 5051123 Sean7k
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Wikipedia is worthless. Your other three citations are with eupedia and are essentially part of a larger paper. How is this not one citation? Fifteen years means nothing if the underlying assumptions are best guesses and maybe's. If this is any indicaion of your riguer, then taking money for it is a crime.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:12 | 5048264 Lebensphilosoph
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Not really. As for what Romans looked like, well, their portraiture is remarkably realistic, so I think you're just trying to be argumentative.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:23 | 5048310 WillyGroper
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:02 | 5048205 barre-de-rire
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so what slumdog, you gonna call da police ?

shithead comment is yours.


anyway, she's pretty fuckable.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:05 | 5048216 Lebensphilosoph
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Tits? Check. 2 legs? Check.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:07 | 5048235 Sudden Debt
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But does she like long conversations and can she express her feelings?....


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:06 | 5048224 Sudden Debt
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That's why God invented the LIGHTSWITCH!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:04 | 5048212 Sudden Debt
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WOW! are you already a racist if you make fun of the English now also?...

what about the dutch? Can we still make fun of the dutch?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:14 | 5048269 Dr. Engali
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I like to make fun of the Dutch even though they've never done anything harmful that I know of and seem to be over all a friendly people. They seem to be as good a candidate as any to make fun of.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:48 | 5048432 NidStyles
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I find the Dutch on average arrogant myself. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:34 | 5048362 MeMongo
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"Can we still make fun of the Dutch?"

YES! But no making fun of the Irish....completely out of the question!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:10 | 5048545 Wahooo
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Mom, dad, I'm gaelic.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:06 | 5048227 Stoploss
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You mean like she is obviously a transplant who did not bother to assimilate, and puts another country in front of the one that ensures her "freedom"???

That kind of idiotic, ignorant and racist?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:06 | 5048230 MrPalladium
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Are you denying that the British Isles have an indigenous population of light skinned caucasians? Has Great Britain now become a "conceptual nation" like the U.S., and if so, how and when and under what authority was the nation of the indigenous British people dissolved?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:46 | 5048430 AnAnonymous
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Indo Europeans come from Asia.

Indigenous people of the british isles are european (black Irish, northern welsh)

So yes, it is denied.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:02 | 5048509 Lebensphilosoph
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Watch out. Next they'll be denying there is such a thing as "indigenous Britons" while crying about Native Americans who crossed the Bering Strait and whatnot.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:04 | 5049240 AnAnonymous
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There are indigenous people to the british isles.

It just happens that those who claim to be indigenous are not indigenous. They are Asian, coming from Asia.

The indigenous people are Northern Welsh and the black Irish (who went through a libel campaign to deny them their indigenous status, going up to claiming that their different looks from the usurpers was because they were mixed with negroes)

Sorry, it does not work. Indo Europeans are Asia and those residing in the british isles are not indigenous people. But usurpers.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:45 | 5049438 Lebensphilosoph
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Umm, not really. The vast majority of modern Britons are direct descendents of a prehistoric population related to Iberians. And we are certainly not 'Celts'.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:08 | 5048535 Duffy
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what they're getting to is the Jewish view of the world - no European people has a right to a homeland, i.e. immigrants have a "right" to relocate to any European nation.  Jews have a perfect right to live anywhere they please - but they *also* have an exclusive right to a *homeland* they never set foot in, because they may have had some remote ancestors who lived there along with the ancestors of the Palestinian Muslims and Christians expelled by European Jews.


Basically, the idea that there's a white European ethnic identity is something they simply deny, as part of their wish thinking.  Meanwhile Jews are both race and religion, as loyal as anyone else to their nation of residence, but possessing a birthright to dipossess the indigenous people of the Levant.


Got it?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:39 | 5048386 Duffy
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Why is it idiotic, ignorant and/or racist - precisely?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:19 | 5048601 alien-IQ
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Isn't it obvious? She failed to genuflect to Israel.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 10:07 | 5048530 forrestdweller
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no. it's not.


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:02 | 5048817 Carl Spackler
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    Cacete de Ouro said, "That's an idiotic comment, and also ignorant and racist"


OH, thank goodness....the police have arrived........................................ NOT!!!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:21 | 5049311 The Phallic Crusader
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How is it "racist" - she plainly does not look ethnically British [Welsh, Scottish, English, Irish].

What's with the absurd thought and language policing?  Do you feel morally superior now?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:57 | 5048180 bigkansas
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I wonder if she has a mutilated vagina.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:48 | 5048204 COSMOS
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No more so than your mutilated circumcised prick, in which circumcision took away a hefty portion of the heft of your wee wee and diminished its ability to feel as much hahaha or to satisfy a woman.  You had your pencil sharpened too much buddy.

Enjoy your tiny little mutilated prick bigkansas with a smallprick

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:22 | 5049317 The Phallic Crusader
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no no - you see when Jews cut healthy, sensate tissue from the penis of an 8 year old baby who can't consent to it - that's totally reasonable.

God said they had to do it as part of the deal for the land of milfs and honeys.



Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:03 | 5048210 Sudden Debt
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It's a tunnel where she hides the silverware

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:59 | 5048189 Joe Davola
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Teeth too straight?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 11:03 | 5048840 Carl Spackler
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Right.  Better dentistry than your standard Brit.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 09:00 | 5048191 RadioactiveRant
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You've obviously not been to Britain lately.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 08:59 | 5048196 Buster Cherry
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Yeah, she looks more like a fuse lighter.

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