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Stunning Images: Gaza, Before And After

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Satellite imagery released by the UN shows, courtesy of The Wall Street Journal, the destruction in hard-hit Gaza neighborhoods.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:51 | 5049884 youngman
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This must be from the Janes Website..selling missles to the masses....see how they work...buy some now...actually an Iowa tornado does much more damage

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:37 | 5050238 Urban Redneck
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Only because the Americrap constructed housing isn't often made of (at least minimally) reinforced concrete.

This little piggies' US house is engineered to survive all the huffing and puffing that the big bad wolf can muster, as well as anything his bad breath can pickup and throw at it.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:53 | 5049897 BudFox2012
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Look on the bright side, according to Keyensians, war and destruction creates jobs.  If that's the case, Gaza's ecomony should turn red hot any day now...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:56 | 5049935 Herd Redirectio...
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Israel produces as many weapons per capita as any nation on Earth.

Thats where the stimulus is taking place.  Oh whats this, I hear the US provides GRANTS to Israel.  Not loans, like we provide to POOR countries, but GRANTS, that do not have to be repaid!  How generous!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:53 | 5049906 ncdirtdigger
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When my neighbor shoots out one of my windows, I am inclined to, as Clint Eastwood might say, blow his house clean up. Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:45 | 5052392 Seer
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And the solutionn is to blow up vast number of homes throughout the city?  And never actually proving that your neighbor fired that gun?

Consider that your neighbor is blind, has a .22 that hasn't been cleaned in years, and is drunk.  Yeah, kill him (and his wife and kids- because, well, clearly he's using them as human shields)!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:42 | 5052896 MeelionDollerBogus
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then what do you do when your entire country is invaded? Americans freak out about Mexicans crossing the border but Palestine was invaded completely by a foreign invader with no ties to the land & you call them neighbors? They're invaders, not neighbors.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:53 | 5049908 homiegot
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Shovel-ready jobs.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:54 | 5049910 Fishthatlived
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Looks like precision to me.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:45 | 5052408 Seer
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Maybe you can go verify that?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:40 | 5052893 MeelionDollerBogus
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heated thread but looks like invisible /sarc to me.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:54 | 5049916 Fix It Again Timmy
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From street level, the devastation looks very chilling.  The Israelis certainly tried their best to beat the Nazis in destroying a ghetto prison of their own making.  I would call it a tie; the War Crimes Trophy will be enthusiastically displayed in Tel Aviv...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:56 | 5049926 Luapnor
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Hama violated #3

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:55 | 5049928 magpie
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Good that the Ínternational Jew, in form of the WSJ, stands behind the Zionist Entity

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:57 | 5049941 pragmatic hobo
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it's funny how israelis call capture of their soldiers during fighting "kidnapping" and retaliate by bombing hospitals and schools known to be UN sanctuary, killing children and civilians and call it "self protection" ...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:02 | 5049985 Bunghole
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The Zionists aren't good at sports or physical activities, so they must make up for their shortcomings with death and propaganda.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:58 | 5049949 Caveman93
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US Taxpayer's handy work once again!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:58 | 5049951 observer007
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This is how Israel sees it:

Hamas uses children to protect their rocket sites

http://homment.com/israel

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:23 | 5052866 Ward no. 6
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so and so said this and then this happened and that happened....

who is telling the truth?

who is lying?

whom am i to believe?

 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 08:16 | 5053192 konputa
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I'm going to guess that reading comprehension isn't one of your strengths. From the article I posted:

IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza.

Convicted implies the court system had enough evidence to charge and sentence for a crime.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:20 | 5052871 Ward no. 6
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how do i know this is real

photo edited???

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:38 | 5052888 MeelionDollerBogus
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And this is what the rest of the world sees:

all illegal settler sites are human shields between Palestinian freedom fighters & Tel Aviv + every IDF soldier.

It's fully justified for every IDF soldier to be executed in their homes in front of their children, and their children too, since the IDF do precisely that 24 hours a day. They are Hitler's new army, the IDF. Every IDF soldier is a proud Nazi extermination specialist.

http://dingo.care2.com/pictures/c2c/share/32/326/618/326185_370.jpg : a map of the Israel human shields

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 13:59 | 5049964 Cow
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I have a friend that is in real estate in Gaza.  He works for Century 4

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:42 | 5050264 I Write Code
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LOL

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:51 | 5050329 tmosley
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Fitting since the people living in Palestine before the Zionists showed up were merely the resident Jews from centuries before, but who had been forcibly converted to Islam.  Now the Zionists return and oppress the dog shit out of their long lost brothers FOR CHANGING THEIR RELIGION.

No religion should have their own country, period.  This goes for the Catholics, and the CoE.  Every time religion merges with politics, genocide and oppression result, whether its Inquisitions, Troubles, or this dog shit.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:04 | 5050426 Cow
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you must be a blast at parties

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:19 | 5050553 tmosley
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Nice, subtle username there.  Cow==goy==what you really think of the people you are impersonating.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:40 | 5050655 Cow
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yes. you caught me.  I picked my name based on this story.  Brilliant!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:02 | 5049987 roadhazard
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I don't think Israel did a very good job, I still see a lot of buildings standing. Better luck next time.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:51 | 5050340 tmosley
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Yeah, fuck, they only killed 1 out a thousand people living in Gaza.  But then, I guess they aren't really done yet, are they?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:57 | 5050384 roadhazard
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Not as long as those rockets keep getting fired at them, son.   

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:05 | 5050441 tmosley
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You know, if everyone thought like you did, North Ireland would still be at war.  Hell, I don't think any war would ever end.

But fuck, who cares? Gazans are brown, not white.  And seeing their guts strewn about kinda gives me a hardon.  I think we can all agree that dead children are as sexy as they are delicious.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:29 | 5051818 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Oh yeah! Hamas-Hizballah-Muslim Brotherhood-Iran ARE JUST LIKE the Irish.  Are you really that stupid? Zero critical thinking skills... 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:31 | 5052884 MeelionDollerBogus
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Critical thinking skills reveals the situation is identical.

#1 this is a war for land, water & control of any people left alive

#2 this is a war invading a sovereign land & removing the indigenous Irish / Palestinian people

#3 everyone who dares defend their children from murder shall be murdered and later the news shall call that father/mother a terrorist even though you'd do exactly what they did to protect your children.

#4 there is zero legitimacy for any ongoing or the initial invasion of the Irish / Palestinian land.

Points #1 to #4 are the utmost definition of critical thinking.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:56 | 5052452 Seer
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Yeah, proportional response...

Gaza's Bottle Rockets Why Hamas' Arsenal Wasn't Worth a War http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141698/mark-perry/gazas-bottle-ro...
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:28 | 5052881 MeelionDollerBogus
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Son, it's the duty of every man, woman & child to fire rockets UNTIL Israel stops.

Every rocket is a defense act, not an aggression. Every time Israel does this a million more rockets must be fired & should be, by law and moral superiority.

If Israel did this to your town you'd fire missiles too.

Since 1948 Israel has invaded the one singular nation of Palestine using murder and then mass murder.

There is no right choice except to use missiles, rockets, execution of every kind, to clear the invaders off the land of Palestine.

You'd feel the same if it was America or even just Nevada under attack by Mexico, the same way Palestine is under seige from invaders who call themselves "Israel" even though for thousands of years there has been no such thing as Israel.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:03 | 5049993 Last of the Mid...
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well quit building tunnels and fucking firing missles into Israel. DUH! I'd do the same thing. Golda Meir understood those people, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, everything else is bullshit. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:35 | 5050223 Ex Cathedra
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Sorry about duplicate post.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:35 | 5050224 Ex Cathedra
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Himmler also so understood.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:04 | 5050004 Frostfan1
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Most anti-Israel supporters  don't like satellite photographs as they destroy the myth that every square inch isn't lived on.  The comparison of Beit Lahiya is especially nice as Israel leveled those trees.  Gee, I wonder why?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:44 | 5050278 besnook
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that is because the empty spaces are filled with dead palestinians.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:04 | 5050438 2bit Hoarder
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I thought ZHers were supposed to be about intellectual integrity?  Since your post only implies that the school was shelled only highlights your dishonesty.  They shelled the building right next to the school.  Not one person inside the school was injured.  Do you have the integrity to even ask WHY their location was announced from every digital rooftop?  Does the fact that hamas intentionally put all thise kids right next door to a munitions dump, just h opp pi ng that isreal would kill at least a few not bother you?  The fact that they took out the munitions right next door without any injuries to the civilians intentionally put into harms way is pretty impressive.   Unfortunately there are still people like you, who being on the side of a known terrorist organization, make deceitful posts such as this one.  

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:14 | 5050812 no more banksters
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These are reports from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, sir. Enough with the Western-Israeli propaganda.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:50 | 5050962 2bit Hoarder
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So youre saying that there were three thousand people crammed into this school.  You are claiming that isreal intentionally bombed a school with that many people in it and killed 5?  Out of 3,000? 

 

Even the UN, which you apparently regard as above reproach, did not say that they bomed the school.   The facts are, that they bombed the munitions dump that, by no accident, was right next to the school.  A relatively small number of people who were not IN the school, but were registered at the school were outside and were hit.  

 

I am not jewish, nor do I have any kind of vested interest in isreal.  I do however believe that had hamas not launched thousands of missiles at Israel, this war would not be happening.  I assume that you believe that hamas did not launch missiles at them, or they do not have the right to defend themselves.  Anything else is a false premise based on hatred and is illogical.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:09 | 5051052 no more banksters
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I can't tell you how wrong you are. What are your sources? Just read the reports.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:00 | 5052465 Seer
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"I do however believe that had hamas not launched thousands of missiles at Israel, this war would not be happening.  I assume that you believe"

"assume"

"believe"

With these words one can make up some pretty amazing stories!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:07 | 5050029 NoWayJose
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It looks like the US is forwarding these images to the UN to put pressure on Israel.  So should we assume these are from a commerical satellite company?  Or did the US have all its satellites over Gaza and none over Eastern Ukraine?  Or are these really just old images from March?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:14 | 5050075 russwinter
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Israel Employs Nazi 1944 Warsaw Uprising Tactics:

http://winteractionables.com/?p=13638

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:16 | 5050085 MeelionDollerBogus
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Israeli airstrikes to steal Palestine forever by genocide: this is what terrorism actually looks like.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:07 | 5050451 blacklabrador
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Wait until Hamas blasts your neighborhood and you want to protect your family.  Then you will be called a terrorist for defending your family by striking where the weapons are firing from.  ZH is becoming like CNBC and other leftist outlets.  Used to be avid reader and supporter but not so much anymore of ZH.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:24 | 5052873 MeelionDollerBogus
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Hamas has never done this before.

Palestinian freedom fighters have never strayed from reclaiming their own land stolen by foreign invaders.

Theres no left or leftist.

There is no right or right wing.

There's only the facts: 1948 invaders took over Palestine who have no ties to the land.

That's it.

Same with how Tamils are being wiped out from Sri Lanka, how people of Tibet are removed using murder, same with how genocide cleared North America for white people who are absolutely not indigenous to North America yet call everyone else an "illegal immigrant".

This is flat out the facts, zero opinion, Zerohedge.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:47 | 5050683 HerrDoktor
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Genocide?  Then the Israelis r doin it rong!  1900 terrorists and civilian Palis (by their count) out of 1.4 million.  If the goal is to kill people, there are moe efficient weapons for that.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:18 | 5050097 roadhazard
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Oh look, satellite photo's ZH'ers believe. How convenient.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:18 | 5050099 bigrooster
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Good thing that Israel destroyed all of those terrorist crops in Gaza!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:22 | 5050127 Oath_Keeper
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A far cry from Dresden in 1945, but I'll take it.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:21 | 5050130 db51
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When I was in jr. high, a swarm of bees was peacefully congregating in a tree our property.   We thought it would be fun to shoot a couple of rounds from our Daisy BB guns into the swarm to see what would happen.   What could possibly go wrong.   My friend and I fired away with about three BB's each.   Hilarity ensued.   The resulting aftermath included over a hundred bee stings between the two of us, and colateral damage to my pet Border Collie who was sleeping in the yard minding his own business was horrific.   Not much difference in our decision making and that of Hamas.   I'm sure we could have lived in peace with the swarm....but no...bad decision.   Won't be doing that again ever.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:24 | 5050161 hooligan2009
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you sure you got the right analogy? the bees might be hamas; let's look at it in another 50 years.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:39 | 5050919 luckylogger
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The bees are hamas.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:08 | 5050462 Frostfan1
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The difference is that at 801 am on Friday, Hamas will start shooting again under the belief the world will reward them for starting up the fight one moretime.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:30 | 5050605 Jameson18
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You ment to say Mossad. Fixed it for you.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:22 | 5050132 AnAnonymous
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Lets turn the place in a glass desert so that We, Americans, can rise and thrive by overcoming an unfriendly to human life environment. Because that is what we do, We, Americans.

Signed: an American.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:42 | 5050268 LFMayor
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If you Chins want to join the 1st world you'll need to convince your huddled masses to quit shitting along the sides of the streets first.

Center of the celestial heavens my white hairy ass.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:25 | 5050159 Itchy and Scratchy
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Really? I wudda bet anything those were pics of MoTown!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:45 | 5050285 NoWayJose
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Especially after the City of Detroit shuts off the water and makes it look like a desert!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:25 | 5050162 besnook
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 i love the hasbara trolls. they do more to harm israel's image then improve it. keep it up guys and girls.

a word of advice. don't equate israel with all jews. that won't end well.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:31 | 5050209 Ex Cathedra
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But Israel claims to speak for all Jews...even over the objections of many Jews.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:43 | 5050269 besnook
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i offer my home and lead for any jew who swears off israel. once the american people realize how they have been had by israel jews will not be safe anywhere because of the jew=israel campaign. these supposed smartest people in the world have not considered the long term consequences of their policy.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:12 | 5050485 DrunkenMonkey
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Au contraire, the hatred piled upon them internationally encourages them to emigrate to Israel where they think they will feel safe amongst like-minded others. This swells the population and provides people to populate the front lines (i.e. the occupied / annexed lands). Needless to say, this is what BN & AL desire.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:27 | 5050176 NoelConfidence
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Wow.

 

Wiped off the map.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:30 | 5050194 Bagbalm
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The UN doesn't own satellites so who paid for the pix?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:36 | 5050227 Nevsky
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And here is why.

 

NDTV [Indian News] Exclusive Video: How Hamas Assembles and Fires Rockets under a tent right next to the hotel in a densely populated area.
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:04 | 5050431 optimator
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All of the camp known as Gaza is densely populated.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:10 | 5050472 Nevsky
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You have looked at the pictures above right? Notice a few empty lots in both before and after? As in no building next to them?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:31 | 5050611 Frostfan1
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Like I said, Israel haters hate satellite pics.  In Gaza, Hamas follows reporters and photographers to let them know they can't take a picture of this or that but satellite pictures, well...........

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:36 | 5050233 LFMayor
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ROFL.  That makes me want to go out into the street, dance and hand out candies.

Fuck them.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:39 | 5050245 Stinko da Munk
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I saw those properties on Zillow. Last week price decrease of 10%.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:03 | 5050417 NoTTD
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The owners are moving into the safety of stocks.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:16 | 5050523 eclectic syncretist
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Makes Detroit look like Shangra-La.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:43 | 5050265 NoWayJose
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Wouldn't it be great for the US to have a clear and consistent foreign policy?  Punch Israel in the mouth and knock out a tooth - you know you are getting punched back harder and will lose 10 teeth.  Punch the US in the mouth and you could be invaded, or see US-armed rebels in your country, or get drone attacks, or get lots of foreign aid and military equipment -- free from the US.  Suppress women and gays in your country - again, it could go either way - you could get sanctions, US-armed rebels, foreign/military aid, support for your gas pipeline route to Europe, or who knows what else.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:44 | 5050276 Duc888
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:50 | 5050318 I Write Code
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I'm not stunned. 

I know Hamas is not stunned, they are happy and proud. 

Let's see what comes next, more rockets into Israel, do you think?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:29 | 5050596 Frostfan1
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801 am Friday.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:57 | 5050324 lasvegaspersona
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I wonder if they thought Ed Snowden moved to Gaza. At least the damage was just to military installations...and the occasional kindergarten playground.

I do understand that Hamas uses hospitals and schools and mosques as hide aways for military equipment. It creates a problem for the Israelis...but...with all the modern targeting devices and all the good intel you woud think the destruction would be more localized. It looks non specific carpet type bombing. Israel should know they will be held to a higher standard because they can afford the better ammo.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:51 | 5050331 thisnonesense
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Using children as human shields is a WAR CRIME.  Firing rockets indiscriminately into urban areas in a WAR CRIME. 

Marauding Syria and Iraq and butchering men, women, and children, destroying religious shrines, and establishing 16th century religious laws is a WAR CRIME..

But no need to report that...and certainly no need to demonstrate in the streets unless its to bash Jews...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:12 | 5050492 Fix-ItSilly
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War is a "legalized" crime. Why do you create sub sections that only legitimize the concept of war?

You sound like Clinton's lawyer seeking vindication with a solicitated parsed answer for 'sex".

A society selects its leaders and war. Why create parsed separations for this conflict? America and Europe didn't for Serbia. Dresden. Hiroshima. Iraq I. You spout today's "war" fashion, not reality.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:40 | 5050652 Farmer Joe in B...
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100% in agreement here. 

Let's pull the plug on Israel... no more US support of any kind (which we should have done decades ago). 

Let them duke it out.  With war comes casualties.  Sadly, many civilian... but it's war.

May the best man win....

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:51 | 5050338 The Phallic Crusader
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So if I am to understand the pro-Israel ZHedgers:

 

Discussion, let alone criticism of Israeli war crimes is "anti-Semitisim."

 

Respectfully, I don't think that makes any logical sense at all, and whether or not this idea [or something analogous] is tendered disingenuously, its purpose is to change the discussion from war crimes committed by the Israeli state, and to insulate that state from the very idea of being able to commit crimes by dint of being Jewish.

 

That is, by claiming it is anti-Jewish hate to discuss Jewish state terror/war crimes, not only is this an inane ad hominem on its face, by tacitly also asserting that it's not a crime when the Jewish state does it - it is also actually racist per se.  This final inference is buttressed by the continual anti-Arab hate, and Islamophobia rendered here by the Israel-is-never-wrong commenters.

 

Is there some anti-Semitism (sic) here - sure, but frankly not more than the Islamophobia and anti-Arab hate Israel's apologists freely deal in, and furthermore, much, even most of what is superficially dismissed by the Zionists here as 'anti-Semitic' is no such thing - unless you accept that criticism of state terror/crime becomes "hate" only when one particular group is doing it because no act that group commits may be defined as terror/crime.

 

I will not define out of "war crime" or "terrorism" the despicable, bloody acts of people based on whether or not they identify as Jewish or Israeli.

 

I will not respect anyone who tries to get me to do so with tired cries of "anti-Semite" at eminently reasonable criticism.  If such people had any integrity, any honesty, they would simply admit that in the name of defense, or justice, or whatever, any people and any nation state, can begin to justify the most egregious crimes.

 

Voltaire — 'Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.'

 

The entire self-concept of Israel  (deliberately misnomered - Israel was detroyed 2,000 years ago, and Judea recreated by Pharisees in Babylon) and Jewishness is amongst the most dependent on the absurdities of myth of any people.  Given that, and given very real persecution over hundreds of years, perhaps it is little wonder that they confuse cause and affect, and are unable to grasp why people may view Israel, understandably, as a racist, colonialist, apartheid, expansionist, nuclear rogue state.

 


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:27 | 5050581 Frostfan1
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I'm not putting time into your argument due to the whack-a-mole logic of too many personalities here.  Some here are clearly and unashamedly anti-semitic, some are anti-zionist, some are anti-semitic and claim they are anti-zionist, some hate US involvement with a mix of the above, and some are just flat out lazy stupid morons.  Others just take any internet slop of lies and declare it a fact and/or truth.

As for rogue state, the scoreboard is 105,000 flights out of Ben Gurion airport carrying 14,0000,000 passengers in 2013.  For a country of six million, that's not exactly the stats for a rogue nation.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:48 | 5050686 I Write Code
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>Discussion, let alone criticism of Israeli war crimes is "anti-Semitisim."

Your question is disgusting, biased.  Don't you even see it?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:34 | 5051173 jomama
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^too ironic for words.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:52 | 5050346 Atomizer
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How to manufacture supply and demand bubbles through war and disease. The desperation of sicko’s is knocking on their very door.

Do you remember my post about a bounty on the Central Planning flank? Reverse the tables and watch fear ensue. Winks. That's all for now. Too bad that it had to come this far. I'll bet a 2T dollar wager that Israel will look this way in near future.

In conclusion, it's all about terror & fear to keep the market bubble afloat. The bounty wager is real. Too bad we just cannot get along.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:53 | 5050359 gcjohns1971
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NOT TO SPAM BUT...

It appears a lot of ZH'ers question the existence and/or origin of satellite photos, believing that they must all originate in a spy agency.

 

That is simply not so.  Since the age of digital cameras, where governments had to actually send astronauts to recover the high-resolution film, there have been commercial imagery agencies.  It is not harder to send up an imaging satellite than, say, a TV-station's  weather-radar satellite.   In fact, as cameras have increased in resolution and decreased in cost, an imaging satellite is cheaper to make and operate than a radar satellite because it uses less power.

 

Anyway, here are commercial enterprises that own their own imaging satellites:

FRENCH-OWNED SPOT - http://catalog.spotimage.com/

US-based DIGI-GLOBE - http://www.digitalglobe.com/

UK-based GET-MAPPING - http://www2.getmapping.com/

 

So, if you don't believe an image you see or that a government supposedly produced, and you have the cash, then go buy the image for yourself!!!

HINT:

Not even government provides all their own images these days.  All the requirements for digital imaging for mapping, GPS Navigation, etc. mean that there are 10 commercial imaging satellites for every government one.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:12 | 5050493 Atomizer
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Give your address and passport number to ship you to the scene. Under my contract conditions, you will video back on the ground under our secure lines. Up for the challege? No insurance policy can be granted. You have 2.5 weeks to become embedded within GAZA.

Up for the position?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:27 | 5050587 gcjohns1971
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How about you give me your address and passport number and take video of Ukraine.   You have 2.5 weeks to become ebedded within UKRAINE.

 

What the hell does this shit have to do with the satellite image companies I posted?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:54 | 5050363 FishHockers
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I see too many buildings still standing. They should NUKE all the Sand Roosters.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:55 | 5050366 Heyoka
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What's stunning is all the work Israel still has to do. Dang! there goes my rating average again. Right down the Hamas hole.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 14:58 | 5050386 insanelysane
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That's a Housing Boom!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:13 | 5050505 Atomizer
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CAT backlog is saved.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:02 | 5050404 NoTTD
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Sheet of glass would look better.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:05 | 5050432 Dingleberry
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This is a US issue because without the US, there is no Israel. Certainly not like it is today.

Until this nexus of corruption, bribery and misplaced loyalties between our political leaders (of all stripes) and the Israel get severed, there is literally no reason for Israel to discontinue their actions.

The mass protests, pissed off people, etc. may has well be on the moon.  I keep hearing of some demographic shift that endangers Israel. I have been hearing that for decades. If anything, Israel is stronger today due to more territory occupied, Palestinians herded into ghettos, denuded Arab regimes, plus iron domes, etc.

I hear comparisons of apartheid South Africa and Israel, and since one like regime fell so must the other. I do not remember the media being nearly 100% owned by South Africans, and thus controlling propaganda.  I highly doubt you will be bombarded daily (pardon the pun) with anti-Israel stories, and calls for economic boycotts like South Africa was.  Wake me up if you do.

There you go. Now you know.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:29 | 5050869 Frostfan1
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People like to make comparisons between Israel and South Africa but no what, you can compare anything.  De Klerk never had an 86% approval rating supporting his decisions.  One other point.  The South African blacks weren't calling for the deaths of the whites and certainly never wrote those type of words in their charter and still denied even today on TV.....

Hamas Spokesman Won’t Say Whether Hamas Would Remove Call for Killing Jews from Its Charter

By Molly Wharton August 4, 2014 5:55 PM Comments
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Hamas spokesman Osama Hamdan would not say whether or not Hamas would consider removing the part of its charter that calls for the killing of all Jews.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:34 | 5052366 Dingleberry
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I'm sure Deklerk and the boys got sky high approval ratings, otherwise they would not have lasted as long as they did.

I'm also sure whites got terrorized by the ANC.

No shortage of Jews that call for the eradication of Palestinians, and all other Goy on the web. 

Do a quick search and see for yourself.

Like I said....no USA bought and paid for...No israel acting like it does. 

And you did not refute the media reference, for some reason.

So there you go.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:17 | 5050530 Itchy and Scratchy
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It sure looks like the 'cousins' like beatin' on eachother!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:23 | 5050566 SgtShaftoe
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The actions of The State of Israel are a human tragedy of epic modern proportions.  These actions put people of jewish faith in abolute danger world-wide, as well as the direct 1st order effect against civilians in Gaza and the West Bank, children, women, innocents. 

Blowback is a strange thing.  It rarely is directed exclusively, or even closely at those who are really to blame.  Innocents are often caught in the crossfire.  Innocent Hasidic Jews, Innocent advocates for humanity that happen to be jewish, etc.  As Israel continues to murder civilians and kids, blowback will increase against these other innocents creating an even greater tragedy. 

Pray for understanding.  Pray for compassion and humanity.  We are entering a dark time.  Many, even here seem to have misplaced their humanity and have hardened their hearts so they see no difference between slaughtered children and livestock.  My heart breaks for everyone affected by this tragedy. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:32 | 5050608 Al Huxley
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Maybe the non-Israeli jews could voice some objection to what the Israelis are doing, and prevent that supposed misunderstanding and misattribution of anger.  But so far, where I live the only actions by the local Jewish community have been public demonstrations in support of Israel, including dancing in the street in celebration of the 'heroics' of the IDF and physically attacking pro-Palestinian protesters.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:38 | 5050646 SgtShaftoe
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There have been internationally.  There have been pictures of Hacidic jews flying Palestinian flags in  protest marches.  They're out there.    Unfortunately, the propoganda in the United States has been deafening, and the culture is rotten to the core. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:41 | 5050658 HerrDoktor
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neturei karta- hardly news

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:42 | 5050665 my_nym
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Innocent Hasidic Jews,

 

There are different factions and perhaps a few innocent individuals but of course the goyim/tribes of the world do not like to be constantly lied to, stolen from and cheated and so forth.

 

Goyim:  Who does the chief rabbi of Russia think he is fooling in pretending to assert a distinction between Christians and idol worshipers in the canonical Orthodox rabbinic literature? This is the level of contempt these rabbis have for the intelligence of goyim. They prey on the cluelessness and gullible nature of the majority. They lie about the contents of the rabbinic texts in the belief that no one will dare to verify these texts forensically, with research that pre-dates the expurgated Talmud versions of which the reader is now aware. So exalted a Talmud scholar as a chief rabbi is cognizant that the expurgated rabbinic books, whether published in Basel, or in Cremona under the Conti imprint, in the sixteenth century, or in the USA, in the twentieth century, bear the same relationship to the actual texts of Judaism, that Dr. Thomas Bowdler’s 1807 The Family Shakespeare —with Shakespeare’s ribald statements and allusions expunged — does with regard to the authentic texts of the Elizabethan playwright. The difference being that whereas Bowdler is today a figure of ridicule and his name a synonym for priggish censorship, Chief Rabbi Lazar’s advancement of a sanitized rabbinic text is published by a flagship Israeli newspaper with the confident expectation that this hokum will find acceptance among the public.

Hoffman, Michael (2008-08-10). Judaism Discovered

 

Innocent advocates for humanity that happen to be jewish, etc. 

 

That's certainly true.  Basically rebellion to tyrants like the rabbis is obedience to God.

 

It's curious that no one ever seems to be concerned at their treatment by the rabbinic establishments throughout history.  Perhaps mainly because few hear about how Talmudic terrorists often terrorize their own tribe too.

But the web is getting pretty sticky now. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:31 | 5050609 luckystars
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The oven dodgers in action.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:05 | 5050748 my_nym
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Auschwitz. Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth

 

Google Earth it for yourself, at this point.  Does it make sense and just happen to align with the sacred six million of the cabala or prophecies about six million dying in a holocaust/sacrifice made by fire, or not? 

 

Ramble.

It is ironic that anti-Semites are generally as clueless as everyone else.  The ovens were there to save people's lives.  Duh. Although the Germans.gov were only saving them to "oops" work them to death or allow them to starve in the end.  Just think if they ever get an opportunity to set up the mythical "FEMA camps" in America.  Slave labor?  Or reality shows?  Or will the vision of the Hunger Games that some author had when they were watching news reports about Iraq mixed in with reality shows on their TV be more apposite? 

I don't know.  But I think the Fed already has the US divided into twelve districts and the Wizard of Oz/gold has always fallen way to the side of putting entertainment before reality.  Perhaps choosing illusions instead of the open fascism typical to military men and street thugs is just habit.  It's a big reality show. And the show must go on...  even if people get rather hungry for some "hunger games" in the future. 

Don't worry, once the normalcy bias of having a day to day routine kicks in, it will all be perfectly normal except when it's time for the theatrical production of a show to stimulate people.  So even if something crazy and abnormal eventually happens in America, in just a generation it will all be pretty much normal again. 

 

What magic.  What wizardry....

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:20 | 5050837 Frostfan1
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The only word that makes sense above is Ramble.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:34 | 5050618 Fix-ItSilly
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What does the UN think a war looks like? Next time, wherever it might be, maybe the UN should think twice about sanctioning war if this pictures are disturbing.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:35 | 5050630 Duffy
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Simply more war crimes by the only demonocracy in the Middle East. 

One suspects that in Ukraine, it is more than simply a handful of Jewish oligarchs at work shelling civilians in the East.  In any event the same mindset at work - the person who cries out in pain as they strike you...

Israel and Ukraine: Ridding the Nation of the ‘Undesirables’

Israel’s Carte Blanche for War Crimes in Gaza

Israel’s Reversion to Old Colonial Tactics

Israeli’s Adeptness at Genocide

Israel is already an Apartheid State — Abby Martin

~

Naomi Klein: Enough. It’s Time for a Boycott of Israel

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/08/03/israel-genocide-and-the-lo...

http://www.stripes.com/opinion/israel-still-lets-bombs-fall-where-they-m...

 

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:39 | 5050653 orangegeek
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interesting clip on Fox - news guy walking through uncovered hamas tunnels

 

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/08/04/watch-hannity-goes-inside-cavernous...

 

palestinians get a lot of  funding - and it goes to wiring tunnels

 

it's as though both sides are being fed to create this shit - fkg gong show

 

they could have ended this crap decades ago

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:52 | 5050712 Syrin
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How many rocks can I throw at you, your car, your kids and your home before you fight back, then when you do, can we throw you in jail for a few hundred years?   Intellectual immaturity at it's peak.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:20 | 5050840 B.J. Worthy
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If I rend you and your loved ones limb from limb for throwing rocks at me, my car, my kids and my home, then hell yeah I deserve to be thrown in jail for a few hundred years.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:36 | 5050895 Syrin
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Even if those rocks killed your kids and wife and every guest that came and went?   Idiot.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:36 | 5050635 luckystars
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"where do I go to get my reputation back"

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:40 | 5050638 pakled
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Journalist Chris Hedges gives a compelling and historically contextualized boots-on-the-ground perspective

 

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_israel_lies_20140803

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:39 | 5050649 HerrDoktor
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Here is the message:  this is what happens and will happen when you fire missles, rockets, mortars at Israel.  Same message has been understood very well by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:50 | 5050697 Syrin
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Take home lesson?   Don't go shooting rockets and mortars into countries that can kick your ass after you do it several hundred times a week.   Probably not a good idea to hide your weapons in your homes, and hide behind your kids.  

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:21 | 5050849 B.J. Worthy
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Of course you have evidence of this alleged human shield activity, don't ya?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:36 | 5050897 Syrin
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You have heard of the internet right? Not hard to find you lazy f'tard

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:51 | 5050699 Syrin
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And no, those images aren't "stunning" unless you're a terrorist loving Hamas apologist.   I can show you images after hurricanes and even tonadoes that are FAR FAR worse.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:51 | 5050701 danepol
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Dear Human Rights Activist, Leftist Liberal, Crying-for-the-poor-children, Israel-hating, Hamas-forgiving, marcher, celebrity, news anchor, journalist, writer, media star, politician, head of state. We have seen you marching along the streets of Europe, America, and the Middle East with your signs and kafias and Palestinian flags. We have heard you screaming to whoever will listen that Jews and Israelis are murderers, war criminals, and baby killers.

You think you are telling us who we are. But actually, you are telling us who you are.

 

That you don’t understand that Hamas is a terror organization that took over a territory that Israel removed all its settlers from a decade ago and with good will turned over to the Palestinians, and that in return the Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas, a terror organization, to rule them, and that Hamas has been logging bombs at Israeli civilians trying to kill them ever since.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 15:55 | 5050726 Syrin
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They're too intellectually immature to understand the concept.   Thse are the same f'tards who blame the home owner for killing someone who broke into his home after they killed his kids and raped his wife.   They're idiotic f;'tards of the highest level who would throw a shit fir if someone threw a rock at their Prius, not to mention threw 750 rocks at their Prius a week.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:33 | 5051166 jomama
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oh no, more bogeyman threats!  that ought to scare people into supporting genocide!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:21 | 5051113 tony wilson
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the kosher dane that sucks the pole of the pole is low.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:38 | 5051206 yochananmichael
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the pagan prole who drinks his jew gods blood. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:00 | 5050757 reader2010
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That's another evidence of your tax dollar hard at work for the better world. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:04 | 5050767 moar beer..
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I rarely post on here, just like to read, but has anyone noticed the large increase of trolls that completely derail good conversation on this board? I am referring to you Jlee.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:51 | 5052841 JLee2027
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If you consider destruction of Israel and hatred of Jews disguised as such "good conversation", this board is not for you.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:13 | 5050799 sunnyside
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Maybe soon Hamas will undertand the phrase, "Don't want no shit, don't start no shit."  Even if you think Hamas (or their predecessor) didn't start it, it looks from the pictures that the IDF is going to or could finish it if they wanted to. 

As I said in an earlier thread, you would think Hamas/PA/etc., would of learned by now that what they are doing isn't working and would try a different strategy.  Keep fighting and dieing at 1000:1 ratio, or accept Israel is going to be there and come to the table and work out a two state solution acceptable to both.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:15 | 5050821 Frostfan1
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They seem to like the exchange.  They think what they are doing is working.   They're OK with civilian deaths so long as they end up with more power in the end.  That's why at 800 am and one second they'll be shooting their rockets again at Israel.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:20 | 5050841 sunnyside
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Ah yes, Islam....the religion of peace.  All because of that goat fucker Muhammad who also had a penchant for pedeophilia.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:06 | 5051034 sunnyside
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If Israel is "behaving in the most criminal fashion" and "defying the world",  where are the other Islamic states (persian, arab, or asian) to step up and really help the Gazan people?  Where is Jordan?  Where is Egypt?  Where is Indonesia?  UAE?  Turkey?  Iran? Iraq? Syria?  Help me out here.  Do you see them coming over with their armed forces?  Why not?  We see squat from them because they know Hamas is a shit stain terrorist group whom the Gazans put/allowed to come to power.  Like we say here in America, elections have consequences.  Right now, those consequences are the IDF.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:25 | 5051125 sunnyside
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Thowing down arrows doesn't answer the simple question.  Why won't the other Islamic states help?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:30 | 5051159 jomama
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What could they possibly do to 'help' against terrorist nation #1 and all its military might?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:10 | 5051497 sunnyside
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So what you are saying is that all of their armies could not get together (sort of like a Nato) and push back or at least supply Gaza with the weapons they need?    That's either silly or you are just unwilling to admit that they don't want to help, and their actions show it. 

Egypt, Jordan and Syria all share borders with Israel and all have a standing army with modern weapons better than those Hamas rockets.  Israel is just one little country.  The US/Obama sure isn't sending troops over there.  

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:55 | 5051473 css1971
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When you are a a military occupier, you are the responsible party for the state you are occupying, no others. This applies to america just as much as Israel BTW. Trying to divert that responsibility is contemptible.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:08 | 5051514 sunnyside
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Pretty stupid comment on your part, but even if true, then I think Israel is seeing that responsibility and currently taking care of business.  What a shame the Palestinians didn't do it and take responsibility for themselves like civilized adults and cleaned up the gov't they have.       Don't want no shit, don't start no shit.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:19 | 5050836 Skip
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http://counterpunch.org/cook01132009.html
January 13, 2009
IDF Under Scrutiny
Is Israel Using Experimental Weapons in Gaza?

By JONATHAN COOK

Nazareth.
Concerns about Israel’s use of non-conventional and experimental weapons in the Gaza Strip are growing, with evasive comments from spokesmen and reluctance to allow independent journalists inside the tiny enclave only fuelling speculation.

The most prominent controversy is over the use of shells containing white phosphorus, which causes horrific burns when it comes into contact with skin. Under international law, phosphorus is allowed as a smokescreen to protect soldiers but treated as a chemical weapon when used against civilians.

The Israeli army maintains that it is using only weapons authorised in international law, though human rights groups have severely criticised Israel for firing phosphorus shells over densely populated areas of Gaza.

But there might be other unconventional weapons Israel is using out of sight of the watching world.

One such munition may be Dime, or dense inert metal explosive, a weapon recently developed by the US army to create a powerful and lethal blast over a small area.

The munition is supposed to still be in the development stage and is not yet regulated. There are fears, however, that Israel may have received a green light from the US military to treat Gaza as a testing ground.

“We have seen Gaza used as a laboratory for testing what I call weapons from hell,” said David Halpin, a retired British surgeon and trauma specialist who has visited Gaza on several occasions to investigate unusual injuries suffered by Gazans.

“I fear the thinking in Israel is that it is in its interests to create as much mutilation as possible to terrorise the civilian population in the hope they will turn against Hamas.”

Gaza’s doctors, including one of the few foreigners there, Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian specialist in emergency medicine working at Al Shifa hospital in Gaza City, report that many of the injuries they see are consistent with the use of Dime.

Wounds from the weapon are said to be distinctive. Those exposed to the blast have severed or melted limbs, or internal ruptures, especially to soft tissue such as the abdomen, that often lead to death.

There is said to be no shrapnel apart from a fine “dusting” of minute metal particles on damaged organs visible when autopsies are carried out. Survivors of a Dime blast are at increased risk of developing cancer, according to research carried out in the United States.

Traditional munitions, by contrast, cause large wounds wherever shrapnel penetrates the body.

“The power of the explosion dissipates very quickly and the strength does not travel long, maybe 10 metres, but those humans who are hit by this explosion, this pressure wave, are cut in pieces,” Dr Gilbert said in a recent interview.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:31 | 5050882 22winmag
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I'd take my chances with DIME over my chances with Agent Orange.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:21 | 5050844 Maxter
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what i don't get about the tunnel is: why aren't they looking for the exit into Isreal instead looking for the entrance into Gaza?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:30 | 5050872 22winmag
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Before and after photos of Vietnam make this look like child's play.

 

Israel is in the minor leagues compared to the U.S. war machine.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:46 | 5051440 css1971
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Eh vietnam? Hiroshima? Nagasaki?

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