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Stunning Images: Gaza, Before And After

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Satellite imagery released by the UN shows, courtesy of The Wall Street Journal, the destruction in hard-hit Gaza neighborhoods.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:31 | 5050884 luckylogger
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If that spankin' don't teach them stupid camel jockey's to stop shooting rockets, there will be no hope for any of them.

That has been established......

As far as shock and awe go, we here in the usa have the isralies beat all to hell........

The isreali's have alot of pateince in my mind...

I would tell them 1 more rocket and there will be no survivores....

What part of do not shoot rockets don't you understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:39 | 5050912 jomama
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I say we stick your ass in a concentration camp, have your kids kidnapped and tortured, and see how you react.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:45 | 5050938 luckylogger
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Hamas is a bunch of pussies hiding behind their children and under their women's burkas........

They could always have put their energy in to something constructive rather than spending all of their money on amunition and building tunnels.....

Imagine what that gaza would be right now if they channeled that energy into productive means.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:52 | 5050967 jomama
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read the link below provided by pakled

'I saw small boys baited and killed by Israeli soldiers in the Gaza refugee camp of Khan Younis. The soldiers swore at the boys in Arabic over the loudspeakers of their armored jeep. The boys, about 10 years old, then threw stones at an Israeli vehicle and the soldiers opened fire, killing some, wounding others. I was present more than once as Israeli troops drew out and shot Palestinian children in this way. Such incidents, in the Israeli lexicon, become children caught in crossfire. I was in Gaza when F-16 attack jets dropped 1,000-pound iron fragmentation bombs on overcrowded hovels in Gaza City. I saw the corpses of the victims, including children. This became a surgical strike on a bomb-making factory. I have watched Israel demolish homes and entire apartment blocks to create wide buffer zones between the Palestinians and the Israeli troops that ring Gaza. I have interviewed the destitute and homeless families, some camped out in crude shelters erected in the rubble. The destruction becomes the demolition of the homes of terrorists. I have stood in the remains of schools—Israel struck two United Nations schools in the last six days, causing at least 10 fatalities at one in Rafah on Sunday and at least 19 at one in the Jebaliya refugee camp Wednesday—as well as medical clinics and mosques. I have heard Israel claim that errant rockets or mortar fire from the Palestinians caused these and other deaths, or that the attacked spots were being used as arms depots or launching sites. I, along with every other reporter I know who has worked in Gaza, have never seen any evidence that Hamas uses civilians as “human shields.”'

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_israel_lies_20140803

 

No one here is buying your bullshit.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:23 | 5051116 sunnyside
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Don't start no shit, won't be no shit.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:52 | 5050975 MarsInScorpio
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For those who are clueless about Hamas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KUcv452KbU

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:28 | 5051146 jomama
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For those clueless about Zionists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Jj_Oe7uQc

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:39 | 5051205 tony wilson
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luckylogger logs in for the kosher night shift.

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:31 | 5052581 luckylogger
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I actually got up arrows.....

Tonight will be a celebration with rockets and mortor balls......................

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:37 | 5050898 p00k1e
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Offer to move the nice Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast.

After 24 hours, Zyklon B for the holdouts.

 


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:38 | 5050905 q99x2
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Could be a cure for Ebola after it spreads through the US

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:48 | 5050947 SMC
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The "chosen people" used to get a lot of sympathy for the various misfortunes that allegedly occurred to their ancestors. Sympathy expertly turned into leverage over decades.

However, they must have known that shelling UN schools, murdering non-combatant women and children, etc... would turn the majority of the world against them.

Wonder if they decided that the days of US global domination are just about done and decided that if they were going to get rid of the Palestinians - they had to do it while the US could still supply and finance them.

Perhaps the US Government has less time from a "full bellies, business as usual" viewpoint than most of us ZH readers think.

As soon as we are no longer useful idiots - AIPAC will flush us down the toilet.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:52 | 5050971 p00k1e
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A critical tipping point will be reached then the gun gets turned to the Jew.

Happens every time. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:51 | 5050959 Pullmyfinger
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I think we can all safely disregard the childish views of those such as the 'lucky loggers" among us to consider a few, more skeptical adult questions, such as: how many of you have noticed that the alleged, 'Hamas' has never attempted to strike any MILITARY targets? Naturally, you would expect this of mere "terrorists," right? After all, killing civilians is always the point of being a terrorist,, no? Because I find this to be glaringly suspicious, so I tender a different possibility: that everything about 'Hamas' reeks of an Israeli psy-ops, whose sole purpose, which the Israelis could never gain more territory without, is to provide the Israeli government a plausible excuse to gain more land, even if the means is by the most horrendous hypocrisy of genocide...

Shouldn't their Palistinian brothers at least be given the dignity of a gas chamber???

Sarc off/

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:10 | 5051060 Rough-Trader
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Hi Pullmy, 

 Have you ever ever though of taking your head out of your ass and facing reality

INSTEAD of living in a fantasy of conspiracy theories...sure, it must be fun, but if, as you say, you examine your own claim rationally as an adult, "Is it really realistic that Israel goes inside Hamas, pretends to be Isalmic, and then rocket-fires into Isreal...."   The alternative of just being Israel and killing the terrorists without a conspiracy is much easier, much more realisitic.  Unfortunately it does not suit the fat-asses that like to sit on computers hours on end banging about Zionism, putting thier heads into their ass and blaming the Jews.

  Get real, Hamas fires the rockets and Isreal retaliates.  

NO - Ok, keep your head in your ass then!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 16:58 | 5050994 Baby Eating Dingo22
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What's stunning is the intent of the use of the word stunning.

Should Israel have just traded rocket launch for rocket launch?

Hamas is a terrorist group that brainwashes their children to kill their neighbors, the Jews. They are not a human rights, peace loving advocate.  They deserve nothing less that what they got

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:10 | 5051059 sunnyside
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If the Gazans/Hamas put down their guns, the killing would stop.  If Israel put down theirs, the muslims would slaughter them.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:12 | 5051070 SgtShaftoe
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What? with rocks, sticks?  You have got to be fucking kidding.  You're obviously deluded if you believe that shit. 

http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/ (former IDF speaking out against war crimes)

http://stormcloudsgathering.com/an-honest-israeli-soldier-speaks

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:19 | 5051099 Nevsky
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Rocks and sticks and Grad...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:36 | 5051190 SgtShaftoe
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yea, nevermind facts!!!  Don't let facts get in the way of your worldview.  That's just inconvenient. 

 

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stat/deaths.html

 

http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:54 | 5051262 Nevsky
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Before moving on to a new topic you just posted, is it correct to understand you just aknowledged your lies about "rocks and sticks"?

 

Or were you quoting your own ailment above

yea, nevermind facts!!!  Don't let facts get in the way of your worldview.  That's just inconvenient. 

That is the facts of the videos including those of Hamas itself showed that you lied but gets in the way of your worldview?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:25 | 5051353 SgtShaftoe
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Hamas has rockets, and has attacked civilians, which is despicable.  I'm not disputing that.  However, some conflicts have been started by IDF soldiers pretending to be palestinians.  We don't know to what extent this occurs, but absolutely does occur - fact.  There are certainly some Palestinians who would like to kill any jews, and most israelis wish to commit mass genocide of palestinians. 

Also, the disproportionate use of force is against international laws of war. 

Palestine is occupied illegally according to international law, Geneva conventions and laws of war. Fact.  The senior leadership wishes to starve out the existing residents of gaza - fact. 

So there are some elements that are commiting dispicable acts from the palestinian side, but the Israeli state policy is to commit war crimes and genocide. FACT

 

If you care at all about innocents from both sides, government initiated war crimes must be prosecuted in a world court.  Otherwise, it will get worse for all sides, especially for innocent jews.  Watch the video.  If this gets further out of control, you and yours will not be spared from this conflict. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:29 | 5051367 Nevsky
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Hamas has rockets, and has attacked civilians, which is despicable.  I'm not disputing that. 

Has someone hijacked your account?

 

sunnyside Vote up!

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Vote down!

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If the Gazans/Hamas put down their guns, the killing would stop.  If Israel put down theirs, the muslims would slaughter them.

 

 

SgtShaftoe
Vote up!

3 Vote down!

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What? with rocks, sticks?  You have got to be fucking kidding.  You're obviously deluded if you believe that shit.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:01 | 5051286 Fix-ItSilly
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"War crime"?  What is that but the winner of the war killing during peacetime?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:53 | 5051261 Fix-ItSilly
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True, but if Hamas puts down its guns and similarly adjusts its rhetoric or disappears, the 2 decade long Isreali tilt to hard right Governments implodes into disarray.  There would be a vacuum of legitimate, mainstream leadership.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:57 | 5051271 Arbeit_Macht_Frei
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But the theft of land would continue unabated.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:57 | 5051481 Buster Cherry
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So do you intend to take tbe deed.to your house to your nearest indian reservation? 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:36 | 5051842 bombdog
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Well if it boils down to deeds at least the Palestinians actually have written deeds to their lands, the lands they lived on before they were ethnically cleansed.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:56 | 5051699 bombdog
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That's absolute horseshit. The Israelis need them to fight back so they have an excuse to exterminate them all as the final solution to the Palestinian Problem. Besides, there is a big difference between putting your guns down and holding onto them without firing them. Besides, if there was ever any sign of peace Israel would create a provocation of some kind, they simply want to exterminate the native population and have all the Europeans and Americans think that it was the right thing to do. I like how you say "Gazans/Hamas" which is just propaganda, as you know that there are over a million people in Gaza and you just want to make them all into terrorists so you can pick them off, nazi style.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:22 | 5051110 Bemused Observer
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Both sides are right, and wrong. This is a tango, not a solitary dance. But right now the Israelis are being seen as employing a lot of overkill, and they are taking out the wrong people. Since they are in the superior military position, it comes off as bullying.
Whether you buy that or not is irrelevant. This is how it LOOKS.
But what isn't just appearance is the effects. Israel is losing support, and has been. It needs to re-assess its positions. The old technique of coming down like the fist of God at any provocation is backfiring, as these types of tactics always do. The hard-ass approach pleases a few hawks, but fucks the whole thing up for those trying to negotiate a REAL solution.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:49 | 5051249 Nevsky
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The hard-ass approach pleases a few hawks, but fucks the whole thing up for those trying to negotiate a REAL solution

 

Hamas Covenant:

Part of Thesis:

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it

Slogan:

Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes

Prophet's example:

 The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

On Negotiations and peaceful solutions:

Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with. As in said in the honourable Hadith:

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:42 | 5051862 are we there yet
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I was talking to Allah the other day and he said you were full of bovine deficant. And he is an expert.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:15 | 5052500 are we there yet
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The mideast would be a happier place if Allah had had at least one comedian as a prophit.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:55 | 5051922 Bemused Observer
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Nevsky, what makes you think I don't apply that standard to both sides?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:24 | 5051120 SgtShaftoe
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Isn't it true that every honest American or Israeli is ashamed of his government these days? Who among us has any conception of the dimensions of shame that will befall us and our children when one day the veil has fallen from our eyes and the most horrible of crimes reach the light of day?  

The American and Israeli people slumber on in dull, stupid sleep and encourage the fascist criminals. Each wants to be exonerated of guilt, each one continues on his way with the most placid, calm conscience. But he cannot be exonerated; he is guilty, guilty, guilty! – (adaptation of the white rose letters)

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:29 | 5051150 surfer433
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I believe a wise man should consider not firing missiles at Israel. 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:46 | 5051237 tony wilson
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any proofs of missiles from hamas

icbm or missile

toy rockets some mayne real many fired by the idf

do you not understand military technique.

 

read about david sterling of the sas.

read some books by frank kitson

low level operations.

the yid has just perfected a 100 years of british tavistock psy war operations.

if hamas did not exist could israel have done this.

this is all a piss poor talmudic blood ritual while as usual some rape and organ harvesting fun on the side.

false flag as normalcy.

problem reaction

and final solution fucktard.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:36 | 5051188 Playtime's Over
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Whewie, what a bunch of Jewie haters.  One of ya'll Jew haters suggested the IDF was firing the rockets earlier in this post.  Now if that ain't carrying thier prayer rug ....I don't know what is.  

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:48 | 5051245 SgtShaftoe
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Well, maybe this former IDF infantry Sargent is a self-hating Jew hater then?  Sounds ridiculous doesn't it.  Is that how you define it?

http://stormcloudsgathering.com/an-honest-israeli-soldier-speaks

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:55 | 5051258 tony wilson
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playtimes over nice name you  sick freak.

that was me moses listen i think you rape kids

i have not got proof

does that mean you do not rape kids

does that mean the nsa should not flag you as a potential child abducter and rapist.

it is just a hunch my gut speaks.

as for idf firing into israel for false flag that is a fact mentioned by at least 6 ex idf soldiers from cast lead operations.

with the help of the nsa we will protect the kids from you moses.

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 17:46 | 5051232 soylentgreenispeople
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It's a Halal-caust .

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:06 | 5051301 Arbeit_Macht_Frei
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The trolling is strong young Jedi.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:53 | 5051467 IED
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patience my young padawan

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:13 | 5051324 Soph
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Elect a terrorist organization into power and you will get stomped by your neighbor that you have vowed to destroy. I fail to see how this is at all surprising. The Palestinians are getting what they voted for...war.Good on em, democracy at work.

 

The fact that ZH continues with its sensationalist crap is more of a surprise to me.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:42 | 5051409 css1971
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And for the 49%?

And given the electoral system is manipulated, in the UK, for example it could be the 68%.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:05 | 5051500 IED
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Im sorry Soph ... what do you mean by "Elect a terrorist organization into power"

Isnt that what Israel did. back in the day

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:20 | 5051549 bombdog
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What's so terrorist about firing back at Israel? As if the Palestinians even have a choice about their future... they are up against so many heartless misrable cunts like you. Blame the victims, herd them into a ghetto and pretend like you're a "neighbor". Israel is thieves in a democracy for thieves and the descendants of thieves, with the victims as second class citizens. Israel funded HAMAS in the first place, so fuck you. You're not surprised about ZH at all, you're just pretending, miserable cunt that you are, there's nothing Israel can do that you wont blame on the Palestinians themselves, you are an empty shell of a human being. Go fuck yourself.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 11:26 | 5054092 Soph
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Hamas Charter...destroy Israel and kill Israeli's

 

Gaza Voters...vote in Hamas and keep them in power while they follow their Charter and kill Israeli's

 

Israel...rolls in some smack down

 

Me...not even a little surprised with the results. Not sure why anyone else would be either.

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:16 | 5051333 BeetleBailey
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Fuck all ya'll

Fuck Israel

Fuck Hamas

Fuck the US

Fuck the entire Middle East.

I'm sick of this shit.

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:49 | 5051455 IED
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:28 | 5051366 Bastiat
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Surgical . . . . in a medieval kind of way.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:35 | 5051393 sheikurbootie
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If your neighbor shoots at you for ANY reason, you blow him the fuck away.  The border WAS open with Gaza for years, the stupid fucking Arabs decided to sneak in suicide bombers to kill Isreali civilians.  Fuck Gaza.  Some civilizations need to die.  Arabs don't even like Palastinians.  Their biggest friend are the Persians.  Think about it.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:14 | 5051530 IED
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The Israelis invented the car bomb. The first mention of the word  terrorism was used in reference to Zionests

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:43 | 5051433 IED
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All I Can Say about all this religious political crap is ...

Well I let Bob D say it for me

 God said to Abraham, Kill me a son

Abe said, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"

God said, "No" Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want, Abe, but
The next time you see me comin', you better run"
Well, Abe said, "Where d'you want this killin' done?"
God said, "Out on Highway 61"

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:45 | 5051436 pc_babe
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What possesses a man to go in to a building 5 times a day, take off his shoes, bend over and sniff another man's ass? Oh Hadji ... the ambrosia.  Allah..sniff, sniff ... Akbar!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:56 | 5051480 IED
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Probably because you are an asshole

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:24 | 5051569 bombdog
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What about the man that cuts a baby boy's foreskin and then sucks his cock? Is he superior in some way?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:31 | 5051602 bombdog
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It's true.... downvote away hasbara bitchez!
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/07/health/new-york-neonatal-herpes/

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:55 | 5051693 d edwards
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Is that what you do?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:21 | 5052034 tony wilson
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pc babe

what would possess a rabbi to bite off the end of a babies penis?

satan perhaps

 

Metzitzah B'peh, Blood-Sucking satanic  Jewish Circumcision Ritual

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/30/metzitzah-bpeh-blood-sucking-je...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:59 | 5051484 Pullmyfinger
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Zerohedge readership has become a cesspool of mindless trolls, clearly unaware that 'conspiracy' is the most common of white-collar crimes,..

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:06 | 5051503 IED
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SO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:45 | 5051658 css1971
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Do you have any idea just how stupid this is?

Lets put it simply.

You don't get to kill civillians and then take the moral high ground. When you have done this as a matter of policy, you have become the disgusting monster you were fighting. There is no difference now between the two sides. You and they are the same vile baying creatures and I don't want to have anything to do with either of you. You are welcome to each other.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:54 | 5051690 d edwards
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Destroyed sites were no doubt areas where rockets were launched from;

f-ing muslim radical Hamas uses women and children as human shields-after all, if they're martyred they go immediately to allah, so it's all good (according to their twisted logic.)

Can't you handle the truth???

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:18 | 5051783 Aussiekiwi
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'You don't get to kill civillians and then take the moral high ground'

Not taking sides CSS1971, but the US has killed thousands and thousands of civilians in Iraq and elsewhere around the world in conflicts, I think its just called collateral damage, anyhow, from what I see the US still takes the moral high ground, so your going to need a better argument.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:46 | 5051663 Kelley
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They look like surgical strkes.

 

How come there are no holes in the ground where the targets were hit? 

 

Look what the US did to Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki. Now that was some ass kickin'. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:55 | 5051691 esum
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dont fuck with the truck....

i hide behind children

i lob missle at you 

i hide behind children

i am brave jihadi, sometimes anal jihadi ok by imam, or rape woman jihadi, ok by imam

i am peaceful islam, why all the bombs.... its not fair.......

 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:03 | 5052666 Seer
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Yawn...

Like they have their own military bases in which to try and compete with Goliath?

Asymmetrical warfare.  Yes, they're in the midst of women and children because women and children are everywhere.  Not like they can travel from afar to watch the "show" like the Israelis can:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:46 | 5052749 Ward no. 6
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sort of like when ppl here in the usa were glued to their tv's watching the "shock and awe" invasion of iraq

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:10 | 5053008 Lebensphilosoph
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In that case, if they cared about the lives of their women and children, they WOULDN'T COMPETE.

 

Logic: try it sometime.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:55 | 5051692 lakecity55
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Looks like International Termite damage.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:59 | 5051705 harry555
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None of our business.  Let them kill each other.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:05 | 5052672 Seer
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"None of our business."

Sadly, that's not the take that the US Congress has on things.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:59 | 5051713 Aaron Hillel
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At this precise moment it is difficult to assign blame, as  the current situation is to the infamous Churchill-Rothschild association as the 2nd WW was to the Versailles Treaty.

Blame the so-called zionists for using their entire arsenal to exterminate indiscriminately the Palestinians?

Yes, we could get on a so-called moral highground and do just that.

But imagine that Tsahal disintegrates overnight and the Syrians, Egyptians and Palestinians have  free rein in Israel...would the massacre be any more civilised?

We could also blame the Palestinians for firing lolrockets into Israel,which is causing constant air-raid alarms, which in turn is deeply disturbing for house pets.

The seeds of hatred have been sown a long time ago, entire generations were raised on a bed of lies - and now the dividends are being reaped.

 

As usual the evil will go unpunished, the real instigators will get riches and honors, the innocent will  be dead or even more miserable than before, as it has always been, and will always be.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:51 | 5051904 MedTechEntrepreneur
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In Islam, all people are to be servants, dhimmi's to the muslim. The Jews are supposed to be slaughtered by the muslim according to quran.  A successful and vibrant Israel, vastly superior to its muslim neighbors is intolerable to Islam.  That the Jews, out perform, out think, out manuver, those who are supposed to be it's Master, is intolerable.  The goyim long for the day when the Jew was not permitted to raise his hand to block the spit of a muslim.  Now, they block their missiles.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:09 | 5052680 Seer
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Aren't religions great!  I mean, they all have that thing that if you are a "believer" that it's OK to kill all the "non-believers!"

This is a wet dream for those who wish to control people (and to make money off of them)!

Those pretending superiority (many who HIDE behind some [human-written] "word of God") will suffer the humiliation that they deserve.  Enough said.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:15 | 5053015 Lebensphilosoph
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And absent the claims of religion, man is a mere evolved animal for whom there exists absolutely no impetus carrying the weight of truth that obliges him to act morally. You can't have it both ways.

 

In other words, what are you bitching about, atheist?

 

At least be logically fucking consistent and embrace amoralism.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:03 | 5051726 cpnscarlet
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Hey HAMAS! How's that "you have no right to exist" crap working out for you? 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:11 | 5052684 Seer
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If you're gloating I'd urge caution.  Don't confuse a battle for the war... (the technical advantage enjoyed by the small numbers of Israelis isn't likely to hold up, especially when the US collapses)

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:22 | 5051795 Aussiekiwi
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RELIGION, killing people since they first crawled out of the swamp, or 6000 years depending upon your belief system, religion is responsible for more deaths and suffering than every other evil in the world combined, I guess that makes religion the number one evil in the world, just thinking aloud here.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:55 | 5051921 Grimaldus
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Actually GOVERNMENT is the number one murderer of all time. You out yourself as a statist tool fool.Try not to think.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/

 

Grimaldus

 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:15 | 5052690 Seer
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Religions and govts are basically the same.  Same hierarchical structures that empower a select few.  And, BOTH are created (structures) and controlled by HUMANS.

Oh, and in case you haven't been keeping up with things, the "book" isn't finished yet.... (the ending sounds like it's going to change the score a bit)

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:16 | 5053016 Lebensphilosoph
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Both religion and the monarchic state are divine institutions ordained by God. Burn in Hell.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:29 | 5052718 RovingGrokster
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Islamic religion and government are one and the same, and highly destructive of the lives and prospects of their subjects.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:00 | 5051943 Bazza McKenzie
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Only if you include communism as a religion, so you include the tens of millions of their own people that Mao and Stalin each exterminated, plus the millions killed by Pol Pot and co.

There are also plenty of peaceful religions.  However, one religious political system stands out as a source of killing people who are members of that religion and people who are not.  That would be the "religion of peace" -- very Orwellian name.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:32 | 5051827 are we there yet
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Detroit could stand some of that kind of urban renewal.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:42 | 5051841 A Dollar Short
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HamasHoles, popping out of holes are EZ targets. I'd imagine if a tunnel is bombed and a house is above, the house is destroyed. What dumb fucks, they know damned well the tunnels are under their homes.  They even put rockets under their beds. THEY FUCKING LIVE TO DIE!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:39 | 5051849 MaxThrust
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One thing that is missing from this discourse is history. European Jews were given land that was taken away from its true owners, Palestinians.

Firing rockets into Israel is indiscriminate and possibly a war crime but what other methods could bring attention to the issue that Israel is still an occupying force.

There are I am sure plenty of peaceful Israelis who could live within a greater Israel-Palestinian state but the main obsticle are the right wing Zionists.

Coupled with the NeoCons and Zionists of the USSA, distruction will be the norm until they are somehow neutralized.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:48 | 5051891 A Dollar Short
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You are an ABSOLUTE MORON, Max Thrust!  FUCKING CLUELESS!

 

What is Palestine and Palestinians?

 

In recent history the area called Palestine includes the territories of present day Israel and Jordan (see map above. For earlier history of the term see article). From 1517 to 1917 most of this area remained under the rule of the Ottoman Empire.

Ottoman Empire was dissolved at the end of World War I. Its successor, modern republic of Turkey, transferred Palestine to British Empire control under the Lausanne agreement that followed WW I.

In 1917 Great Britain issued the Balfour Declaration for "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". In 1922 Britain allocated nearly 80% of Palestine to Transjordan. Thus, Jordan covers the majority of the land of Palestine under British Mandate. Jordan also includes the majority of the Arabs who lived there. In other words, Jordan is the Arab portion of Palestine.

The residents of Palestine are called "Palestinians". Since Palestine includes both modern day Israel and Jordan both Arab and Jewish residents of this area were referred to as "Palestinians".

It was only after the Jews re-inhabited their historic homeland of Judea and Samaria, that the myth of an Arab Palestinian nation was created and marketed worldwide. Jews come from Judea, not Palestinians. There is no language known as Palestinian, or any Palestinian culture distinct from that of all the Arabs in the area. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. "Palestinians" are Arabs indistinguishable from Arabs throughout the Middle East. The great majority of Arabs in greater Palestine and Israel share the same culture, language and religion.

Much of the Arab population in this area actually migrated into Israel and Judea and Samaria from the surrounding Arab countries in the past 100 years. The rebirth of Israel was accompanied by economic prosperity for the region. Arabs migrated to this area to find employment and enjoy the higher standard of living. In documents not more than hundred years, the area is described as a scarcely populated region. Jews by far were the majority in Jerusalem over the small Arab minority. Until the Oslo agreement the major source of income for Arab residents was employment in the Israeli sector. To this day, many Arabs try to migrate into Israel with various deceptions to become a citizen of Israel.

Even the Chairman of the Palestinian Authority, Arafat himself, is not a "Palestinian". He was born in Egypt. The famous "Palestinian covenant" states that Palestinians are "an integral part of the Arab nation" -- a nation which is blessed with a sparsely populated land mass 660 times the size of tiny Israel (Judea, Samaria and Gaza included).

All attempts to claim Arab sovereignty over Israel of today, should be seen with their real intention: The destruction of Israel as a Jewish state and the only bulwark of the Judeo-Christian Western civilization in the Middle East.

Oslo accords and "Peace Process"

The Oslo "Peace" accords have not brought peace. The number of terror attacks against Israel and the number of Israelis killed by Arab terror bombings greatly escalated after Oslo to a level that has not been seen since 1948 (see statistics). The Palestinian Authority has repeatedly violated all aspects of the agreement (see full report of violations).

Recent armed violence by the army of Arafat confirm the predictions that this agreement would escalate the conflict rather than subdue it (see article). In the history there are many examples of international "peace agreements" that were rapidly followed by major wars. A well-known relevant case is the Munich agreement signed by Chamberlain from Great Britain and Hitler from Germany in 1938, which was rapidly revoked by Hitler as German armies invaded Czechoslovakia in 1939 (see article).

The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Fatah Constitution that is adopted as the unofficial constitution of the Palestinian Authority also calls for the destruction of the Jewish State in most of its clauses.

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:58 | 5051933 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Fine Job! Shocking stupidity here on ZH.  2/3rds evidently are adherents to Chomsky, Finkelstein, Rense, Ickes, Duke and every other Leftist-Marxist-Anti-Jew monster.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:14 | 5052007 Al Huxley
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No wonder everybody hates you.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:02 | 5052852 RovingGrokster
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Dumb repetitiveness. Sounds like Huxley!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:02 | 5052853 RovingGrokster
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Dumb repetitiveness. Sounds like Huxley!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:02 | 5051949 newdoobie
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You forgot to mention that the majority of the land that was later called Israel was purchased by Jews starting back when the ottoman empire would only let them buy usless land. unfertile or swamps. Later the Brits let them buy whatever people would sell them.

The majority of the land that became Israel was already owned by Jews

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:49 | 5052757 Seer
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They're talking "State!"  Aren't folks here, claiming to be non-statists, pretty much projecting the same views?

The Israeli State WILL collapse, as will eventually every fucking state that exists.  Some religious nuts say that it's preordained, by Their "god" of course, but it's just plain historical, human fact that ALL States end, secular or non-secular: there is no magic "charter," "constitution" or "religion" that saves ANY of them.

In the final measure Israel's leaders (and the extremists that it has catered to) are little different.  There are actions, and then there are words: what actor is prevailing?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:59 | 5052769 RovingGrokster
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The inhabitants of Gaza deserve what they get, and they haven't been punished enough yet.

Given a vote, they chose terrorist overlords instead of a government.

Given aid, those overlords chose aramaments and tunnels, all distributed through the most densley populated areas, instead of economic development.

Given sufficient provocation, Israel finally did what I have recommended all along - turn the point of origin of every hostile act into a smoking crater. The only thing they have failed to do is what the Arabs proimised to do to Isreal in 1948 - push them into the sea - that buffer zone of scorched earth is too small by 2/3.

Let us not forget that in 1948, the Arab states surrounding Israel were SO confident that they would win any war that they encouraged Arab citizens of Israel to leave while the brief conflict raged, and then they would be able to reap the earthly version of the 72 virgins - stealing the houses and farms of their former Jewish neighbors upon their triumpahnt return.

Hah! Never trust a Muslim! How, exactly, did that departure work out for them? How swift was that victory?

Hmmm - the only time the Arabs gained any ground was when the Western powers twisted Israel's arm into surrending parts of the the hard-won buffer zones (Golan Heights, West Bank, Gaza strip) for "peace". Proving that they are inferior in trustworthiness even to communists, the terrorists who had infiltrated the so-called refugee settlements, continually siezed any offered olive branch, set it afire, and threw it back at Israel.

And what about all that brotherly love amongst Arabs, eh? After encouraging the Israeli Arabs to leave home in exchange for greater rewards after victory, what did those Arab nations do when victory failed to come in 1948, 1967, 1973.....? Why - let their brethren rot in squalor as a PR stunt. - Yup, there's more brotherly love between gangbangers in Philadeplhia!

Why did the civilians not evacuate and let the military (militia) arm of Hamas take the heat? Because Hamas demanded that the civilians stay in the line of fire.

Hamas terrorized Israel, but didn't actually hurt too many Israelis because Israel is diligent about defending its citizens. One of their most spectacular successes was taking out an Israeli substation supplying electricity to 70,000 people - 70,000 Gaza residents, that is. Also notable was the wanton destruction of a field hospital that the IDF set up to treat Gazan casualities.

Remember, the Gazans CHOSE Hamas. That's nearly as dumb as the USA choosing Obama a second time!

Footnote: Hamas has succeeded where all others have failed - in uniting the hawks and doves of Israel's leadership in a determination to put Hamas out of business - nice work, morons!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:06 | 5051967 Grimaldus
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And the jewish tribes of mecca and medina? Do the jewish decendants of the jews living in mecca and medina long before muhammed came along and slaughtered them get the right to return you ignorant moron? Want some history? here ya go, assclown. Your lack of any brain is the main obstacle here.

While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."  Bukhari 53:392

 

The Jews of Mecca were the first in a very long line of unfortunate people to be offered the opportunity to convert to Islam under obvious duress.  Forcible conversion is very much a Muslim tradition started by Muhammad (see MYTH: Muhammad Rejected Conversions to Islam made under Duress)

Since they chose to hold on to their religion (and their property) Muhammad looked for reasons to go to war against the Jews at Medina.  According to some Muslims, the first tribe, the Qaynuqa, were driven from their homes and land on the pretext that one of their own had harassed a Muslim woman.  Although the offender was killed prior to this by a Muslim, the Muslim was also killed by Jews in retaliation for the first murder.

After laying siege to the entire community and defeating the tribe, Muhammad wanted to put every male member to death, but was talked out of it by an associate - something that Allah later "rebuked" him for.  The Qaynuqa were forced into exile and the Muslims took their possessions and property, making it their own.  Muhammad personally reserved a fifth of the ill-gotten gain for himself (a rule that he was sure to include in the Quran).

This episode helped ingrain within Islam the immature principle of group identity, whereby any member of a religion or social unit outside of Islam is just as guilty as any of their peers who insult or harm a Muslim - and just as deserving of punishment.  (Muhammad's punishments usually did not fit the crime).

Members of the second tribe, the Banu Nadir, were accused by Muhammad of plotting to kill him.  What is most intriguing about this episode is that it occurred after the Muslims had killed several prominent Jews on Muhammad's order, including a leader of the Banu Nadir (named Ka'b al-Ashraf).  (See also MYTH: Muhammad Never Approved of Murder)

When the prophet of Islam learned that he might be targeted in retaliation (something that he claimed was "revealed" to him by Allah), he promptly laid siege to the Banu Nadir community.  After forcing them to surrender, these original inhabitants of Medina were then banished from their homes and land by the Muslim newcomers, who again started to take as much as they could for themselves (Ibn Ishaq 653).  (To the disappointment of his people, this time Muhammad produced a revelation from Allah that allowed him to confiscate the entire portion for himself).

In a critical example of how deception is sanctioned under Islam, a surviving contingent of the Banu Nadir (under Usayr ibn Zarim) was later tricked into leaving their fortress by promise of peace talks.  The contingent of Muslims sent by Muhammad to "escort" them, however, easily slaughtered the victims once they let down their guard (Ibn Ishaq 981).   (See also MYTH: Muhammad always Disapproved of Dishonesty).


The Qurayza Massacre

By the time the Banu Qurayza met their fate, Muhammad was wealthy and powerful from his defeat of the other two tribes.

The Jews of the Banu Qurayza tasted Muhammad's wrath after their leader half-heartedly sided with the Meccan army during a siege of Medina (the Battle of the Trench).  By then, Muhammad had evicted the other Jews and declared that all land at Medina belonged to him, so the original constitution of the town was no longer in effect.  It is important to note that the Qurayza did not attack the Muslims, even after switching loyalties (contrary to another popular myth).

Although the Qurayza surrendered peacefully to the Muslims, Muhammad determined to have every man of the tribe executed, along with every boy that had reached the initial stages of puberty (between the ages of 12 and 14).  He ordered a ditch dug outside of the town and had the victims brought to him in several groups.  Each person would be forced to kneel, and their head would be cut off and then dumped along with the body into the trench.

Between 700 and 900 men and boys were slaughtered by the Muslims after their surrender.

The surviving children of the men became slaves of the Muslims, and their widows became sex slaves.  This included the Jewish girl, Rayhana, who became one of Muhammad's personal concubines the very night that her husband was killed.  The prophet of Islam apparently "enjoyed her pleasures" (ie. raped her) even as the very execution of her people was taking place.

In some ways, women were much like any other possession taken in battle, to be done with however their captors pleased.  But Muslims found them useful in other ways as well.  In fact, one of the methods by which Islam owed its expansion down through the centuries was through the reproductive capabilities of captured women.  In addition to four wives, a man was allowed an unlimited number of sex slaves, with the only rule being that any resulting children would automatically be Muslim.

Muhammad ordered that a fifth of the women taken captive be reserved for him.  Many were absorbed into his personal stable of sex slaves that he maintained in addition to his eleven wives.  Others were doled out like party favors to others.  (See MYTH: Muhammad was an Abolitionist)

At one point following a battle, Muhammad provided instructions on how women should be raped after capture, telling his men not to worry about coitus interruptus, since "Allah has written whom he is going to create."  (See also MYTH: Muhammad Never Approved of Rape)

Following the battle against the Hunain, late in his life, Muhammad's men were reluctant to rape the captured women in front of their husbands (who were apparently still alive to witness the abomination), but Allah came to the rescue with a handy "revelation" that allowed the debauchery.  (This is the origin of Sura 4:24 according to Abu Dawud 2150).


The Origin of Islamic Imperialism

From Medina, Muhammad waged a campaign of terror, to which he openly attributed his success (Bukhari 52:220).  His gang of robbers launched raids in which hapless communities were savaged, looted, murdered and raped.  The tribes around the Muslims began to convert to Islam out of self-preservation. 

The excuse for military campaign began to shrink to the point that it hardly existed at all.  Muhammad told his followers that Muslims were meant to rule over other people.  Supremacist teachings became the driving force behind Jihad (see also MYTH: Muhammad Waged War Only in Self-Defense) and Jihad became the driving force behind Islam.

The brutal conquest of the people of Khaybar, a peaceful farming community that was not at war with the Muslims, is a striking example.  Muhammad marched in secret, took them by surprise and easily defeated them.  He had many of the men killed, simply for defending their town.  He enslaved women and children and had surviving men live on the land as virtual serfs, paying Muslims an ongoing share of their crops not to attack them again. 

Muhammad suspected that the town's treasurer was holding out and had his men barbarically torture the poor fellow by building a fire on his chest until he revealed the location of hidden treasure.  (See also MYTH: Muhammad Never Approved Torture).

Afterwards, the prophet of Islam beheaded the man and "married" his widow on the same day (she first had to pass through the hands of one of his lieutenants).  Given that the woman's father was also killed by Muhammad, it isn't much of a stretch to say that true love had very little to do with this "marriage."

 

islam is the religion of hate. I will not feel sorry for you when they come for you, behead you and rape your wife and daughters.

Grimaldus


Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:10 | 5051985 MedTechEntrepreneur
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It's no wonder the word assasin is an Arabic word.  Here they are loading up and shooting missiles next to a hotel.

 http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ndtv-exclusive-how-hamas-assembles-and...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:41 | 5052110 tony wilson
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wow is that all you have got moshe.

the idf kill jews

this is a ritual

jews kill jews for gain.

sometimes they dress up as hamas

most of the time they say fuck it and stay in idf uniform

many times no rockets just fakery

hamas badge

 gives the jes a licence to slaughter  arab children and babies.

talmudic satanic blood ritual with organ harvesting,rape and land grab a bonus.

for years we have had this and that quotations from mad mullahs.

nobody looks at your yiddish satanic books.

blood death from the vampyre race.

your army steals children where do they go moses.

no pity or remorse empathy killing kids on the beach.

 

the goy viewer cried during schindlers list heart strings pulled as the violin played

the hollywood kids going off to nazi slaughter.

you fuckers have wanted us to cry on are knees for 50 years and more for your peceived slaughter.

yet you dance around like lunatics and sing no more schools for the arab no more schools.

the nazi survives in the souls of many jews.

when all is done will spielberg make a movie about the gaza depleted uranium holocaust

no

cos the jew is all thats important

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:51 | 5052761 Seer
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:50 | 5052155 A Dollar Short
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Indeed, these HamasHole DIPSTICKS get their news from MSLSD and CNN.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 04:27 | 5052946 TNTARG
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Grimaldus, how insulting for everybody's intelligence is your comment.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:44 | 5051874 noname
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Hell pictures look like Detroit, Chicago, with less people killed

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:45 | 5051876 ohBehave
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Pat Condell explains the situation and our perspective rather well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ugsv5u-sW0

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:43 | 5052137 tony wilson
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pat condell is on the uk paedophile register why would you put that link up.

have you rapists not got your own mi5 run paedo website to hang out at you freak.

child rapists need to hang fuck off now

please : )

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:46 | 5051880 Oboneterm
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Looks like a bunch of rocket sites and tunnels to me. I guess Hamas now has leveled the palying field for their rebels to rebuild on.

Hamas keeps lobbing thousands of rockets across the border and this is what you get in return. Nice new clean building sites......complete with holes in the ground to use for new foundation piers.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:55 | 5052168 tony wilson
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moses i look at the 3000 number and all the numbers given here as satanic talmudism

 

6 million jews

6 million jews

3000

3000 rockets

5000 rockets into saturnic time infinity init.

blah blah

any proof of the rocket numbers

 

any numbers on the jewish deaths since 2001

from hamas rockets

numbers are important how many deaths since 2001

how many this years?

numbers are intersting 6 million is rabbinical fantasy

 

 

"SIX MILLION JEWS"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ_7vJIuUc

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:35 | 5052592 jonpauler
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And what if they're doing this useless fireworks in return to something. One virew is that they're infinitely stupid and blood-thristy shooting rockets for no reason at all just to bring annihilaton on their own heads....

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:19 | 5052805 Seer
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Ever see that picture of the mouse looking up in the sky and flipping the "bird" to the eagle?  What would YOU do if you were caged up and the Israelis were slowly snuffing you out?  Poking back with fingers, which is really about what it is, an irritant, is all they have.  Of course those rockets are a joke (http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141698/mark-perry/gazas-bottle-ro...), especially when viewed from those commanding vast wealth (or means) and weapons that can obliterate human life for miles around.

Why does Hamas do it?  Look around you, where you are.  Pay attention to the masses clamoring that "something be done."  The Israelis are doing it, going so far as duping themselves into believing that the "Iron Dome" actually works (it does not).  Palestinians are doing it, Hamas is firing rockets, likely, duping their people into thinking that they're effective (they are not- with poor or no guidance system [can you help a poor folk out by sending them guidance systems so that they can actually hit a target?], limited range [most rockets they have and use, with rare exception, have a very limited range, and are hard to construct- dangerously done by less-than highly skilled factory/weapons manufacturers).

It's what ALL wars are about: resources.  All this "he beget so and so" and on an on... BS, ALL THE WAY ROUND.  That is, the hungrier people (willing to sacrifice their lives for their cause) WILL win out, regardless of what their story is (though it's necessary to have a good one to hold the group together- the story, however, needed be factually true, as most are not).  Israel believes it has the right to the resources of the area.  The Palestinians believe that they have the right to the resources of the area.  Pretty standard stuff in human history.  At this point the Israelis are on top.  No one stays on top forever (despite whatever stories they have crafted for motivation- ALWAYS, someone hungrier comes along).

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:01 | 5051944 are we there yet
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If we pretend Palestine is an experiment on how to not govern a country, then they are doing very well.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:04 | 5051960 The Proletariat
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After reading all these comments.....I couldn't help myself and had to listen to Frank Zappa...Jewish Princess

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDarQW7UZc

 

 

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:18 | 5052020 Jam
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Frank Zappa, this may fitting as well.

 

http://vimeo.com/63996546

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:19 | 5052023 dfwpike
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Good for Israel.  I hope they keep kicking Hamas' ass.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 04:16 | 5052941 TNTARG
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In a civilized society, nobody has to "kick" nobody's "ass".

In a civlized society, the rule of law has the purpose of guaranteeing that nobody has to "kick" nobody's "ass".

Furthermore, in a civilized society it's WE THE PEOPLE who promotes the creation of the laws under which we live and the discarding of the laws under which we don't want to live.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:27 | 5052068 Bryan
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It's funny how the Jews and Muslims beating each other dead makes all of US fight with each other.  It's contagious, isn't it?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:46 | 5052142 royal
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The US should have never sold such sophisticated weapons to the bloodthirsty kikes.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:50 | 5052154 TNTARG
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HOPE COMES FROM ARGENTINA.

 

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/626733/argentina-rights-activist-finds-stolen-grandson-after-35-years

Among so much death, a breath of life and love.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:14 | 5052199 Gadfly
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Why Israel Lies

By Chris Hedges

August 05, 2014 "ICH" - "TruthDig" -  All governments lie, as I.F. Stone pointed out, including Israel and Hamas. But Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic and totalitarian regimes. It does not deform the truth; it inverts it. It routinely paints a picture for the outside world that is diametrically opposed to reality. And all of us reporters who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel’s Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories—required under the rules of American journalism—although we know they are untrue.

I saw small boys baited and killed by Israeli soldiers in the Gaza refugee camp of Khan Younis. The soldiers swore at the boys in Arabic over the loudspeakers of their armored jeep. The boys, about 10 years old, then threw stones at an Israeli vehicle and the soldiers opened fire, killing some, wounding others. I was present more than once as Israeli troops drew out and shot Palestinian children in this way. Such incidents, in the Israeli lexicon, become children caught in crossfire. I was in Gaza when F-16 attack jets dropped 1,000-pound iron fragmentation bombs on overcrowded hovels in Gaza City. I saw the corpses of the victims, including children. This became a surgical strike on a bomb-making factory. I have watched Israel demolish homes and entire apartment blocks to create wide buffer zones between the Palestinians and the Israeli troops that ring Gaza. I have interviewed the destitute and homeless families, some camped out in crude shelters erected in the rubble. The destruction becomes the demolition of the homes of terrorists. I have stood in the remains of schools—Israel struck two United Nations schools in the last six days, causing at least 10 fatalities at one in Rafah on Sunday and at least 19 at one in the Jebaliya refugee camp Wednesday—as well as medical clinics and mosques. I have heard Israel claim that errant rockets or mortar fire from the Palestinians caused these and other deaths, or that the attacked spots were being used as arms depots or launching sites. I, along with every other reporter I know who has worked in Gaza, have never seen any evidence that Hamas uses civilians as “human shields.”

There is a perverted logic to Israel’s repeated use of the Big Lie—Große Lüge—the lie favored by tyrants from Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin to Saddam Hussein. The Big Lie feeds the two reactions Israel seeks to elicit—racism among its supporters and terror among its victims.

By painting a picture of an army that never attacks civilians, that indeed goes out of its way to protect them, the Big Lie says Israelis are civilized and humane, and their Palestinian opponents are inhuman monsters. The Big Lie serves the idea that the slaughter in Gaza is a clash of civilizations, a war between democracy, decency and honor on one side and Islamic barbarism on the other. And in the uncommon cases when news of atrocities penetrates to the wider public, Israel blames the destruction and casualties on Hamas.

George Orwell in his novel “Nineteen Eighty-Four” called this form of propaganda doublethink. Doublethink uses “logic against logic” and “repudiate[s] morality while laying claim to it.” The Big Lie does not allow for the nuances and contradictions that can plague conscience. It is a state-orchestrated response to the dilemma of cognitive dissonance. The Big Lie permits no gray zones. The world is black and white, good and evil, righteous and unrighteous. The Big Lie allows believers to take comfort—a comfort they are desperately seeking—in their own moral superiority at the very moment they have abrogated all morality.

The Big Lie, as the father of American public relations, Edward Bernays, wrote, is limited only by the propagandist’s capacity to fathom and harness the undercurrents of individual and mass psychology. And since most supporters of Israel do not have a desire to know the truth, a truth that would force them to examine their own racism and self-delusions about Zionist and Western moral superiority, like packs of famished dogs they lap up the lies fed to them by the Israeli government. The Big Lie always finds fertile soil in what Bernays called the “logic-proof compartment of dogmatic adherence.” All effective propaganda, Bernays wrote, targets and builds upon these irrational “psychological habits.”

This is the world Franz Kafka envisioned, a world where the irrational becomes rational. It is one where, as Gustave Le Bon noted in “The Crowd: A Study of the Public Mind,” those who supply the masses with the illusions they crave become their master, and “whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.” This irrationality explains why the reaction of Israeli supporters to those who have the courage to speak the truth—Uri Avnery, Max Blumenthal, Noam Chomsky, Jonathan Cook, Norman Finkelstein, Amira Hass, Gideon Levy, Ilan Pappé, Henry Siegman and Philip Weiss—is so rabid. That so many of these voices are Jewish, and therefore have more credibility than non-Jews who are among Israel’s cheerleaders, only ratchets up the level of hate.

But the Big Lie is also consciously designed to send a chilling message to Gaza’s Palestinians, who have lost large numbers of their dwellings, clinics, mosques, and power, water and sewage facilities, along with schools and hospitals, who have suffered some 1,650 deaths since this assault began—most of the victims women and children—and who have seen 400,000 people displaced from their homes. The Big Lie makes it clear to the Palestinians that Israel will continue to wage a campaign of state terror and will never admit its atrocities or its intentions. The vast disparity between what Israel says and what Israel does tells the Palestinians that there is no hope. Israel will do and say whatever it wants. International law, like the truth, will always be irrelevant. There will never, the Palestinians understand from the Big Lie, be an acknowledgement of reality by the Israeli leadership.

The Israel Defense Forces website is replete with this black propaganda. “Hamas exploits the IDF’s sensitivity towards protecting civilian structures, particularly holy sites, by hiding command centers, weapons caches and tunnel entrances in mosques,” the IDF site reads. “In Hamas’ world, hospitals are command centers, ambulances are transport vehicles, and medics are human shields,” the site insists.

“... [Israeli] officers are tasked with an enormous responsibility: to protect Palestinian civilians on the ground, no matter how difficult that may be,” the site assures its viewers. And the IDF site provides this quote from a drone operator identified as Lt. Or. “I have personally seen rockets fired at Israel from hospitals and schools, but we couldn’t strike back because of civilians nearby. In one instance, we acquired a target but we saw that there were children in the area. We waited around, and when they didn’t leave we were forced to abort a strike on an important target.”

Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer, in a Big Lie of his own, said last month at a conference of Christians United for Israel that the Israeli army should be given the “Nobel Peace Prize …  a Nobel Peace Prize for fighting with unimaginable restraint.”

The Big Lie destroys any possibility of history and therefore any hope for a dialogue between antagonistic parties that can be grounded in truth and reality. While, as Hannah Arendt pointed out, the ancient and modern sophists sought to win an argument at the expense of the truth, those who wield the Big Lie “want a more lasting victory at the expense of reality.” The old sophists, she said, “destroyed the dignity of human thought.” Those who resort to the Big Lie “destroy the dignity of human action.” The result, Arendt warned, is that “history itself is destroyed, and its comprehensibility.” And when facts no longer matter, when there is no shared history grounded in the truth, when people foolishly believe their own lies, there can be no useful exchange of information. The Big Lie, used like a bludgeon by Israel, as perhaps it is designed to be, ultimately reduces all problems in the world to the brutish language of violence. And when oppressed people are addressed only through violence they will answer only through violence.

   http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39334.htm
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:56 | 5052650 Arkadaba
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Powerful and thought provoking article

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:31 | 5052361 Thee Barbarous Relic
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That's what happens to less than humans,humans have dominion over less than humans

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:59 | 5052460 FlyinHigh
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Looks like it was the houses they wanted gone. Not much damage to surrounding homes if you look closly. But, I could be wrong? Maybe?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:01 | 5052466 jballz
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Honestly who gives a fuck? If anyone cared about these people they would not be living in the shitbowl in the first place.

All this shows me is a good start. Note to gaza - stop electing sharia law cocksucking terrorists to run your asylum and maybe you won't have civilized citizens of the world having to blow up hour hovels.

Yes I have no sympathy for your rocket launching retards. Grow the fuck up

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:00 | 5052659 RobCrash
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Right on!!!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:03 | 5052476 tony wilson
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:02 | 5052477 MrBoompi
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Good time for a cease fire now that everything's blown to smithereens.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:17 | 5052530 T-NUTZ
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Is this your homework, Larry?!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:29 | 5052566 Loukanika the r...
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Clealry discredits previous reports that Hamas do not use human shiekds http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/world/middleeast/indian-tv-crew-shows-...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:31 | 5052576 jonpauler
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„In order to bring a nation to support a burden of maintaining the great military establishment it is neccessary to create an emotional state akin to war psychology. There must a portayal of external menace, this involves the development to a high degree of the hero nation and the villain nation ideology and the arousing of the population to a sense of sacrifice. Once this exists we've gone a long way on the path to war”.

One day good people of Israel will understand that they're being used, just as Arabs are used.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:55 | 5052599 pakled
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This post is full of people who are assuming the [recent round of] rockets going onto Israel were being fired by Hamas.

 

 

How can anyone be sure? What about the many reports that ISIS fired the rockets?

Have not all ZH subscribers learned to peel the onion? To look for the string pullers?

And the string pullers pulling the strings of the string pullers?

For anyone looking to stir up trouble for a deeper purpose, firing rockets into Israel is a no-brainer way to do it. That I know for sure.

But that's about all I know for sure about this current mess. Incredible that so many are so sure of the facts of this situation.

 

I know one other thing absolutely for sure. It's often taken for granted, but the leaders of a country, in seeking to protect innocents from harm (giving Israel the benefit of the doubt that it's for this high-minded intention), so often makes the choice to willfully and knowingly harm other innocents to achieve its goals. That is actually a huge moral choice, yet is so rarely discussed when one society of civilized people opens a can of whoop-ass on another.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:53 | 5052643 rick4654
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JORDAN IS PALESTINE

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:00 | 5052657 RobCrash
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Let's hope the rebuilding will keep the TERRORISTs busy for some time.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:26 | 5052876 thecrap0n
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Yea, I'm sure Israel will build a new settlement or two there.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:27 | 5052716 the grateful un...
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looks like a new jewish settlement to me

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:14 | 5052796 fishwharf
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Hamas is to the Palestinians what Zionists are to the Jews.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:43 | 5052880 Ward no. 6
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when it comes to fighting and wars ppl will just choose which side to believe in whether right or wrong...

just take a look at syria ....

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:33 | 5052886 Otrader
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The welfare beggar state of Israel in action.  Give us money, we are victims.  Booohooooo.  What a bunch of cowards.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:42 | 5052897 Dublinmick
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Pandavas and Kauravas all used nuclear weapons in the last sun.

Mankind today is just a bunch of talking monkeys as the Nefilim discussed. They will destroy each other if the earth, (pole shift) does not intervene

Don't get too excited about it. After several  THOUSAND  years the Nefilim will come back with a better genetic product. Earth is not meant to last for long periods. You must see the idiots that surround you?   !!! No? At all costs the guy handling genetics (EnkI) must never be allowed that position again. (Never)

Things will be as they should, unless you view your identity as a finite specimen or do you see yourself as a spiritual entity enjoying a sojounrn upon the earth. Some of us came to quell the fire of the talking monkeys. It wasn't successful. All is good. It will be over soon.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 03:19 | 5052913 zebrasquid
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So what you're trying to say is: What's does it really matter!?

[Is Hillary, like, a Nefilim sojournin' sista of yours?]

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 03:09 | 5052909 Dublinmick
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Sometime around 23 hundred years ago we see in the Mahabharata Ydhishthira has a vision of the age to come: I see the coming of another age, where barbaric kings rule over a vicious, broken world, where puny, fearful men live tiny lives, white hair at sixteen, copulating with animals, their women perfect whores, making love with greedy mouths. The cows dry, trees stunted, no more flowers, no more purity, ambition, corruption, the age of Kali, the black time."

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 03:31 | 5052922 Dublinmick
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For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, please know that the current pandemic of ignorance and arrogance is quite purposeful. It is induced — by the Universe itself — for the protection of the masses so that their ignorance has become bliss. The bliss that comes with not knowing the grim realities which abound everywhere one looks.[1]

 

https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/all-hell-and-heaven-breaks-...

Likewise, it is only for the ultimate benefit of the controllers that their arrogance has become so unfathomable and intractable. Difficult though it may be to understand, they have an integral part to play in this cosmic drama. Someone always has to play the bad guy, you know. Perhaps the time has come to show our understanding, and maybe even some appreciation, to those crazies who are running the insane asylum for putting on such a convincing show.[2]

 

Sometime around 23 hundred years ago we see in the Mahabharata Ydhishthira has a vision of the age to come: I see the coming of another age, where barbaric kings rule over a vicious, broken world, where puny, fearful men live tiny lives, white hair at sixteen, copulating with animals, their women perfect whores, making love with greedy mouths. The cows dry, trees stunted, no more flowers, no more purity, ambition, corruption, the age of Kali, the black time."

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 04:23 | 5052944 dreadnaught
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Israel subscribes to Hilters FINAL SOLUTION....to bad they didnt learn their lesson.....they now ape Adolf and ask "why not?"

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 04:56 | 5052959 redc1c4
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that's the most remarkably restrained "genocide" in history....

seems like i'm being lied to again.

 

(UNEXPEXTEDLY)

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 05:23 | 5052973 Mabussur
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I'm a lil rusty on my old testament but i seem to remember something about :

"You shall not kill"

Israel keeps pissing in God's eye. One day He is going to blink.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:06 | 5053005 Lebensphilosoph
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The word is murder. The Hebrew and Greek do not leave this open to question.

Please learn the difference between the concepts of inimicus and hostis before you go around like every other clueless liberal referring to alleged teachings of pacifism in the Christian Bible you know nothing about.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:58 | 5053053 Mabussur
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White phosphorous and depleted uranium ordinance used on civilian populations is that more hostis or more inimicus ?

I agree with you on one thing. The word is definitively murder.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:11 | 5053011 FredFlintstone
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They are his chosen people.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:07 | 5053006 Lebensphilosoph
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Looks like an improvement on the landscape.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:13 | 5053013 Comte d'herblay
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Another of the endless posts about these Semites who can't get along.

And 900 remarks from the rubber neckers.

What a waster of bandwidth.  

We need more pictures/ads of women with very large american breasts.  At least then it would be worth copying the image URL.

THIS image is however,  totally pointless.

I'm going to go and split some infinitives. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 09:42 | 5053519 sessinpo
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Video of Hamas setting up rocket launch in populated area of Gaza. Oh yea, Hamas, which has the death of all Jews in their charter, is the victim. It is the civilian Palestinians that are the victims, not Hamas. And anyone has the right to defend themselves against these Islamic extremist.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 12:10 | 5054362 Vin
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What's the point here?  Bombs blow things up, yes we know that.  If someone fires a rocket at you, you fired two back, yes we know that.  And....?

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