Troops Deployed In West Africa Ebola Clinics As 2 More Nigeria Cases Revealed; Saudi Blocks Travelers

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Following Monday's announcement that it will not issue pilgrimage visas to pilgrims from Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia due to concerns regarding the spread of the Ebola virus, Saudi Arabian officials have admitted they are testing samples from a man who had returned recently from a business trip to Sierra Leone for suspected Ebola infection. With the virus having killed at least 887 people, Saudi Arabia is getting serious, "we have communicated the instructions to the officials at all ports of entry."

 

As Al Arabiya reports,

Saudi Arabia was testing samples from a man who had returned recently from a business trip to Sierra Leone for suspected Ebola infection, the Health Ministry said on Tuesday.

 

It said the man, a Saudi in his 40s, was at a hospital in the Red Sea city of Jeddah.

 

On Monday, the ministry announced it will not issue umrah and hajj visas to pilgrims from Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia due to concerns regarding the spread of the Ebola virus.

 

“We have communicated the instructions to the officials at all ports of entry,” said Khalid Marghalani, MOH spokesman, according to the Saudi Gazette.

 

“We have trained our personnel on how to identify and deal with Ebola cases and control virus infection, should it happen.”

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The virus has killed at least 887 people in West Africa.

According to the World Health Organization, there now have been a total of 358 deaths in Guinea, 255 deaths in Liberia, 273 deaths in Sierra Leone and one in Nigeria.

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And then there's this:

  • BA SUSPENDS FLIGHTS TO, FROM LIBERIA, SIERRA LEONE TILL AUG 31

No way out...

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But it gets worse.

 

 

As The Nigerian Tribune reports, Lagos officials (4th most populous city in the world at over 20 million) has revealed that two of the people that had contact with the dead Liberian Ebola victim, Mr Patrick Sawyer, has shown symptoms of fever.

This was made known by the state Commissioner for Health, Dr Jide Idris, while addressing newsmen in Lagos, to give an update on the virus.

 

According to Idris, the two persons, whose names he did not disclose, were among the 70 contacts being monitored and investigated for symptoms of the disease by the state government and health partner bodies.

 

He, however, noted that none of the said two had tested positive to Ebola Virus, adding that the state government would continue to monitor all contacts with the victims till the 21-day incubation period of the virus expired.

 

"Our rapid response team is currently tracking the contacts of persons exposed to the dead passenger. The contract tracing team is following 70 contacts of the virus case and linking them to clinical support when needed.

 

"Two suspect cases had fever, they are under observation and so far have tested  negative to the virus.

 

"The monitoring of suspect cases will continue until the end of the period of 21 days from their exposure to the victim," he said.

 

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Also speaking, the state Director of Public Health, Dr Yusuph Qudus, said the  public health officials had been collaborating with their Lagos and federal counterparts to control the spread of the disease.

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But have no fear, there's no risk to it spreading according to US officials. Even as a Columbus, Ohio person was tested (and found negative) for Ebola and we await the NYC Mt.Sinai Ebola case results.

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Perhaps the most concerning, as we reported likely previously, is the deployment of troops across West Africa to maintain peace:

  • *SIERRA LEONE DEPLOYS HUNDREDS OF TROOPS TO EBOLA CLINICS: AFP

And as Reuters reports, troops are now being deployed to manage the chaos...

 
 

Hundreds of troops deployed in Sierra Leone and Liberia on Monday under an emergency plan to fight the worst outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus, which has killed more than 826 people across West Africa.

 

Panic among local communities, which have attacked health workers and threatened to burn down isolation wards, prompted regional governments to impose tough measures last week, including the closure of schools and quarantine of the remote forest region hardest hit by the disease.

 

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Long convoys of military trucks ferried troops and medical workers on Monday to Sierra Leone's far east, where the density of cases is highest. Military spokesman Colonel Michael Samoura said the operation, code named Octopus, involved around 750 military personnel.

 

Troops will gather in the southeastern town of Bo before travelling to isolated communities to implement quarantines, he added. Healthcare workers will be allowed to come and go freely, and the communities will be kept supplied with food.

 

In neighbouring Liberia, President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf and ministers held a crisis meeting on Sunday on putting in place a series of anti-Ebola measures as police contained infected communities in the northern Lofa county.

 

Police were setting up checkpoints and roadblocks for key entrance and exit points to those infected communities and every resident would be stopped. Nobody would be allowed to exit quarantined communities. Troops were fanning out across Liberia to help to deal with the emergency.

 

"The situation will probably get worse before it gets better," Liberian Information Minister Lewis Brown told Reuters. "We are over-stretched. We need support; we need resources; we need workers."

 

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Director of Liberian National Police Chris Massaquoi said last week that troops would place forces in areas where crowds had previously stoned health workers. He added that all protests, demonstrations and marches had been forbidden.

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Sadly, just as we warned here, this 'containment' was entirely foreseeable.

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Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:29 | 5051344 hedgeless_horseman
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It is much easier to not worry and be happy when one has taken steps to prepare for the worst.  How long could you survive a quarantine, given your current level of preparedness?

Fear we are returning to a time in history where it is a common occurrence to fight for one's life?

Item 2

Develop a basic mindset.  Here are some ideas.  Commit to prepare for zombies, so that currency collapse, EMP, hurricanes, revolution, world war, or anything else will seem relatively mild.  Understand that the time to make a plan and prepare is before, not after a zombie invasion.  Understand that there is no way you can plan or prepare for every contingency, but doing something today goes a long way to peace of mind, and eliminating any regrets should the shit actually hit the fan.  Realize that everything is likely to cost more next year, if you can get it, so better to buy it now.  Acknowledge that nobody really knows if, what, when, or how anything in the future is going to happen...it is all just speculation.  Finally, always remember that, "on a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero," so don't get too worked up, or go into debt, just because of this little exercise in paranoia.

 

Item 6

Purchase the items on the following shopping list to outfit your home.

·         5,000 rounds ammo for training; $2,500.

·         Purchase and install Door Jamb Armor and dead bolts on all your exterior doors; $1,000 for 4 doors.

·         A bullet proof vest; $500.

·         Install a professional alarm system, or better if you live in the country get a big dog and have you both protection trained; $50/month.

·         12 months of food storage (2,400 cal/day) with > 20 year shelf life ;$4,500.

·         If you have well water get a SimplePump.  If you rely on city/municipal water, and there is not a swimming pool in your backyard, then get at least one waterbed; $1,000.

·         A hand-crank emergency radio and a couple of hand-crank flashlights; $50.

·         Purchase and store several cases of liquor; $500.

·         If it gets cold where you live, then purchase

o   A mummy style sleeping bag like a Wiggies; $250.

o   At least one set of heavy wool pants and wool parka, such as Columbia's Gallatin Range ; $350.

o   A pair of warm boots, wool socks, warm gloves, and a wool hat; $350.

o   Two sets of Patagonia long underwear; $120.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:29 | 5051369 kaiserhoff
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The numbers are still small, but nothing about this looks good.  As Cougar pointed out yesterday, this thing has not been loose in a city yet, until perhaps now.  That will change everything.

Also the continuing deaths of health care workers make containment seem almost impossible.  If I were called in to work on an Ebola patient, I might find a pressing need to go fishing.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:32 | 5051377 McMolotov
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Eeeeeeebolaaaaaa!!!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:37 | 5051395 ACP
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Why doesn't SA just send them to the southern US border? They'll be accepted without question.

 

No passport, no problem!

Have a highly contagious deadly disease that may bloom into a global pandemic? Come to the US and the 0bama regime will release you into the general population!

It's all good!

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:03 | 5051493 Pure Evil
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Its for the good of the children don't cha know.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:09 | 5051516 DoChenRollingBearing
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Who made the decision to let the two Americans into the USA?

OK, I understand the humanitarian reasons, and the fact that they are American citizens (doing Not Pure Evil in W Africa) needing urgent treatment, but I STILL have not heard who authorized them to come in.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:28 | 5051588 Citxmech
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Reminds me of that scene in Alien where Riply, as ranking officer, refuses to let Kane back in the ship because of the facehugger - but Ash opens the door anyway.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:04 | 5051728 Latina Lover
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Ebola will likely reach the US via private jets flying in wealthy africans in full bug out mode.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:48 | 5051890 Miffed Microbio...
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If I recall correctly, Ash was a government plant. Specifically on the ship to retrieve the Alien for warfare. To draw a parallel would be too cynical?

Miffed;-)

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:56 | 5052180 Almost Solvent
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Corporate plant (not much difference) but Ripley had the best line in the sequel:

 

"I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage."

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:01 | 5052204 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Too cynical is not possible.  Your analogy is probably quite accurate.  And I am sure their were many "Ripleys" at CDC that wanted to make the right decision and not break quarantine but were overruled by the political hacks above them.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 21:59 | 5052188 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Awesome someone else is making the Alien association.  I made the same comparison on George Washington's Ebola thread.  I am re-watching the movie tonight as comparison just won't go away.

While I hope the 2 Ebola victims brought to the US recover, I can't help but wonder if precautions were ignored b/c of political concerns:  the doctor was associated with Samaritan's Purse the organization founded by Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham "friend" of countless politicos of all stripes.  Not to mention the added bonus of pleasing the megachurch sheeple by saving one of "their own".  Visions of more votes and money in an election year.  Perhaps arrogance and incompetence was what led to this idiotic decision as much as pure malice...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:32 | 5051603 Whoa Dammit
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The story in the Atlanta rumor mill is that Samaritan's Purse made a phone call to Dr. Ribner at Emory and asked if Emory would accept the two Ebola patients. Dr. Ribner said yes and then informed the Emory administrators of what he was going to do. Instead of firing his ass on the spot, the Emory administration (known for place keeping until retirement) apparently said "Um.. Ok" as did any governmental officials who were contacted. All flight arrangements, including the landings at Dobbins AFB were supposedly made by DOD and NATO contractor Phoenix Air.As an aside, The mayor of Atlanta and the governor of Georgia have yet to say diddly squat about the whole mess.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:53 | 5051628 Pure Evil
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They might have allowed them back in the US only after it was proven that the serum worked.

If the serum had not worked they might still be in Africa.

That may be why the woman came over second since it was said that she needed two doses of the serum.

Maybe they were giving her another week to see if she would recover before bringing her over. Ain't as if they didn't have two special purpose planes just for this scenario.

But, of course, being that we're the last to know anything, that's not much encouragement if you find yourself bleeding out your arse in a month or two while lying in a pool of your own sweat and vomit.

And, try to remember its not Obama's fault. He was playing 18 holes when all this went down.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:12 | 5052268 Lost Word
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Caught on Tape: Government supported scientist Jokes about creating deadly virus:

To kill more than 25 percent of population:

http://truthstreammedia.com/scientist-working-on-govt-ebola-drug-joked-a...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:32 | 5051825 kaiserhoff
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Cover story for Barry's sorry ass.  Air Force planes are going to Africa on a fool's errand, with no approval from the White House?  Boooll  Sheeeet.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 22:03 | 5052218 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Not surprising if true.  And what kind of idiot would give you a down vote for this??

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:21 | 5051791 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ricola will take care of that Eeeebolaaaa cough for you.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:40 | 5051420 Lost_River
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not been loose in a city yet...but

now the Nigerians are saying they didn't isolate the American, Sawyer, on his first day in (the magacity) Lagos.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/news/medical/article/Nigerian-official-says-7-more...

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2014-08-05/nigerian-official-says-7-more-...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:54 | 5051471 IridiumRebel
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http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/8/5/second-ebola-patientarriv...

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Nigeria on Tuesday reported eight suspected cases of the deadly Ebola virus after confirming a new case one day earlier. All eight people who are suspected of having Ebola came into contact with Liberian-American Patrick Sawyer, who died from the virus in Lagos last month after flying there from Liberia.

A doctor who helped treat Sawyer was confirmed to have the disease on Monday. 

The announcement from Nigeria — amid West Africa's devastating outbreak, which has killed at least 887 people — came one day after Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City said it was testing a man who recently traveled to a West African nation where Ebola has been reported. He arrived at the emergency room with a high fever and a stomachache but was in good condition, hospital officials said.

The New York City Health Department, after consulting with the hospital and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said in a statement Monday evening that the patient is unlikely to have Ebola.

On Tuesday, Saudi Arabia announced that it is testing a Saudi man who showed symptoms of the hemorrhagic fever after a recent trip to Sierra Leone. The 40-year-old man is in critical condition and is being treated in the isolation unit of a hospital in the western city of Jiddah.

The World Health Organization said on Monday that the toll from Ebola has risen to 887 deaths in Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Nigeria and that more than 1,600 people have been infected. The West African outbreak is the worst Ebola epidemic ever recorded. In the most recent effort to help contain the spread of the disease, the World Bank announcedthat it will provide as much as $200 million to help contain the virus.

And in the first cautionary measure by a non-African airline, British Airways has suspended all its flights to and from Sierra Leone and Liberia until Aug. 31, citing the “deteriorating public health situation in both countries.” The CDC has warned people in the U.S. against nonessential travel to the affected region.

n the U.S., a plane carrying a second American aid worker infected with Ebola, Nancy Writebol, was due to arrive in Atlanta from West Africa on Tuesday, where she will receive further treatment for the virus. A specially equipped medical aircraft carrying her landed at Bangor International Airport in Maine on Tuesday morning to refuel, television station WCSH of Portland reported.

Writebol, 59, a missionary who had been working in Liberia disinfecting protective suits, will be treated by infectious-disease specialists in a special isolation ward at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, where an American doctor, Kent Brantly, also infected with Ebola while working in Liberia, is being treated. Writebol and Brantly had been working on a joint team for missionary organizations SIM USA and Samaritan's Purse.

Writebol and Brantly both saw their conditions improve by varying degrees in Liberia after they received an experimental drug previously tested only on monkeys, a representative for Samaritan's Purse said. The treatment, ZMapp, made by Mapp Biopharmaceutical of San Diego, is aimed at boosting the immune system's efforts to fight off Ebola and is made from antibodies produced by lab animals exposed to parts of the virus.

In a statement, the company said it was working with LeafBio of San Diego, Defyrus of Toronto, the U.S. government and the Public Health Agency of Canada on development of the drug, which was identified as a possible treatment in January.

The drug is made in tobacco at Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Reynolds American, in Owensboro, Kentucky, said spokesman David Howard. The plant "serves like a photocopier," and the drug is extracted from the plant, he said.

Kentucky BioProcessing complied with a request from Emory and the international relief group Samaritan's Purse to provide a limited amount of ZMapp to Emory, he said.

The Kentucky company is working "to increase production of ZMapp, but that process is going to take several months," Howard said. The drug has been tested in animals, and formal testing in humans is expected to begin later this year.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration must grant permission to use experimental treatments in the United States, but the FDA does not have authority over the use of such a drug in other countries, and the aid workers were first treated in Liberia. An FDA spokeswoman said she could not confirm or deny whether the FDA granted access to any experimental therapy for the aid workers in the U.S.

"Ebola is a tricky virus, and one day you can be up and the next day down. One day is not indicative of the outcome," Bruce Johnson, president of SIM USA said. But "we're grateful this medicine was available."

Brantly received a unit of blood from an Ebola survivor, a 14-year-old boy who had been under his care. That seems to be aimed at giving Brantly antibodies that the boy may have made in response to the virus.

Emory University Hospital has one of the nation's most sophisticated infectious-disease units. Patients are sealed off from anyone not in protective gear. Ebola is spread only through direct contact with an infected person's blood or other bodily fluids, not through the air.

There is no vaccine or specific treatment for Ebola, but several in addition to ZMapp are under development.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:48 | 5051451 Sudden Debt
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If you look to the numbers since januari, it multiplies X30 every 6 months.
So if it lasts another 18 months...
And he only way these outbreaks stop was when it just stopped. Mostly because of a lack of hosts. Now it's in the big cities so who knows.

But I still don't know... There's this little voice that is screaming bullshit in the back of my head...

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:05 | 5051504 Jugdish787
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Your bullshit meter is probably going off because it is hard to imagine this actually happening. If cases blow up in the next few weeks this could be the real deal and time to bail.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:19 | 5051784 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Don't worry, with our collective limited attention span this will all become boring after another few weeks just like Fukushima. Fukushima is a disatster of historic proportions that is getting worse and worse every single day and has far more potential to destroy life, ALL FORMS OF LIFE, than Ebola. Ebola is limited, presumably to mammals (I assume it kills more than humans) whereas Fukushima can take out an entire food chain from single celled to multi celled, invertebrate and vertebrate.

Ebola piques our attention at the moment because it parallels many Hollywood movie plots, which is predominatly the terms in which we think. Look at anyone being interviewed at the site of a disaster and more often than not they exclaim "It's just like a movie". Give it a few weeks and regardless of how many people are keeling over we'll be on to the next Hollywood movie life script. It's gotta be time for some dirty bombs going off in NYC in which case John Maclean may save the day.

 

 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:13 | 5051737 BrosephStiglitz
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Assuming a that kind of function.  ~60% mortality rate too..  and I am in one of the most population dense regions of the world.

Fuck.  My.  Life.  Time to stock up on food/water and hope for the best.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:26 | 5051812 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Hate to break this to you but if you are in the northern hemisphere you are slowly but surely being exposed to higher and higher levels of plutonium, ceasium, strontium and all their lovely bedfellows. Radiation exposure is known to lower the immune system. Throw ebola into the mix and we may just have the absolute perfect storm.

Talk about Murphy's Law on steroids. 

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:52 | 5051465 Urban Redneck
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It has been loose in a city, and been relatively contained... It hit Conakry in the 3rd week of March which has a population of over 2 million.

Guekedou is no small town itself with a population over 1/4 million (about the same as Newark NJ or Orlando FL) and it's only a stone's from ground zero.

However, back then it also wasn't killing as many healthcare workers, despite lower awareness of dangers and protocols, so who knows if something has changed since then.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:06 | 5051508 Pure Evil
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Has there been any follow up to the health care workers story?

Like in how they became infected. Was it due to negligence, lack of critical containment suits? Did they run out of Clorox?

What exactly happened other than some story line saying a 100 health care workers have been infected?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:24 | 5051800 Urban Redneck
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I have not found any detailed analysis or breakdown of suspected causes but here's an outline/timeline

maybe mid April, one-off stories of single staff members started popping up with mentions that they may also have been caring for a relative or friend outside of the isolation centers.

In late May once the infections across the border in Liberia and Sierra Leone started picking significantly, stories of multiple staff members becoming infected started popping up in those places.

In June it the stories of Doctors (as opposed to nurses or other staff) started and there were over 50 towns with outbreaks but Guinea appeared to have peaked (and it is the most bass ackward and dysfunctional of the three countries on the front line).

Then in early July shit just went insane (or the body count from from June's infections was tabulated depending on perspective). Entire staffs from smaller facilities, doctors from actual hospitals (with better training and equipment). In addition to Sheik Humarr Khan, at least seven other staff at KGH died - these people have treated hemorrhagic fever 365 days a year for decades, so while one might attribute half a dozen staff at a single backwoods clinic to a tragic procedural failure, that doesn't explain 1) the local experts 2) city hospital doctors or 3) the western experts.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 06:25 | 5053025 atthelake
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Looking at the pictures of health care workers in scrubs and masks shows they were not protected, at all. Scrubs are not protective. They're just medical clothes.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:52 | 5051689 mygameon
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+100 for you. Roflmao with the phrase "rapid response team" in this article. It is Nigeria for fuck sakes!! The only rapid response will be the outflow of PM physical when TSHT. There also might be some nice girls made into ho's during the collapse also....

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:55 | 5051916 Seek_Truth
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"The numbers are still small"

Yeah, but it's the month over month average increase in mortality rate that's kinda eye opening:

March 2014
Cases - 151
Deaths - 95
Mortality - 63%

April 2014
Cases - 338
Deaths - 160
Mortality - 47%

Increase in mortality from previous month: 168%

May 2014
Cases - 436
Deaths - 222
Mortality - 51%

Increase in mortality from previous month: 139%

June 2014
Cases - 779
Deaths - 481
Mortality - 62%

Increase in mortality from previous month: 217%

July 2014
Cases - 1603
Deaths - 887
Mortality - 55%

Increase in mortality from previous month: 184%

Based on these four samples:

Average increase in mortality per month: 177%

The 4 data sets above yield a simple average mortality increase of 177%/month.

Using that as a basis for projection:

August 2015: 3,412,196 deaths (cumulative)

August 2016: 3,226,545,501 deaths (cumulative)

And just for the heck of it:
September 2016: 5,710,985,686

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:29 | 5052564 IridiumRebel
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Maff!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 01:54 | 5052846 SilverRhino
Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:31 | 5051372 medium giraffe
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Save us, God of shopping, save us!  I sacrifice my personal credit on the altar of your magnificent benevolence!  Grant us more stuff, bless us with thy knick-knacks.  Only shopping can save us now, so shop like you've never shopped before!  Oh woe is me.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:12 | 5051386 hedgeless_horseman
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If you can grow it, steal it, borrow it, make it, or mine it, then by all means do so!  Or if you already have everything you need to be self-sufficient for an extended period of time, then good for you.

How long could you survive a quarantine, given your current level of preparedness? 

Does eating at restaurants (with the waiter sneezing on your lunch) and grocery shopping in Lagos (below) sound very appealing to you?

Wet clean up...aisle two...we have another puker...

"...a substance known as the vomito negro, or the black vomit. The black vomit is not really black; it is a speckled liquid of two colors, black and red, a stew of tarry granules mixed with fresh red arterial blood. It is hemorrhage, and it smells like a slaughterhouse. The black vomit is loaded with virus.”

 

-The Hot Zone, by Richard Preston

 

Those poor souls running out of food, water, medicine, ammunition, and fuel in Eastern Ukraine and Gaza would probably like to do some shopping about now.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:16 | 5051532 medium giraffe
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The one thing missing from your list - knowledge.  How many edible plants grow where you live? Can you identify them? Can you find water? Do you know how? Can you capture water from the environment? Do you know how to make simple poultices?

You can't take 400 tins of beans with you if you need to leave.

Knowledge, then knick-knacks.  You can't buy your way out of trouble (though we might try as consumerdroids), but you can have a positive Will To Live if you have the confidence of your own knowledge.  Better to spend money on training courses than on something you can probably improvise. Knowledge weighs nothing.

Do those people in the photo look to you like they have the knowledge and will to survive? Or are they all still hopelessly dependent on the system?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:28 | 5051582 medium giraffe
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The stuff you missed off that post in order to focus on the shopping list.  Gotcha.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:39 | 5051639 janus
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other than a couple pistols, a single rifle and some dried food-stuffs, i tend to think the prepping stuff is potentially disasterous.  all the efforts to prep may bind a near-sighted individual to a situation in which he's already invested faith, even though he may know his location is in great danger, the faith required to prep will anchor him there.

being nimble, prickly, small, quick, mobile and staying in the shadows is always wisest in situations of widespread panic.

and, yes, a dog is man's best friend -- mark it well, bitchez.

woof-woof,

janus

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 19:38 | 5051636 Spastica Rex
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You can take a lot of dried beans with you.

If there's no access to water and heat for boiling, then I guess it probably doesn't matter.

Eat your lamb's quarters.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 23:54 | 5052641 Implied Violins
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Sardines are probably the best canned food to have. Small, light, easy to open, high in nutrients and protein, tastes good cold. After that, peanut butter/other nuts have a high calorie content and last a long time. Vitamin C and other multivitamins, and a bunch of dried rice/quinoa and you're good for a while if you have a water source. A good portable water filter is critical.

If it came down to it though I doubt I could eat long pig. I'd rather just use a bullet and feed the others.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 05:42 | 5052986 medium giraffe
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You wouldn't have to eat longpig, plenty of plants, insects and small animals about.  Longpig probably a bad idea anyway, you might suffer from the same prion protien issue that causes mad cow disease (CJD).  I think Janus nailed it above - keep it light and evade.  There is so much food in the environment if you know where to look.  You don't even need to carry multivits.  Boil up pine needles and drink that for high vit c doses.  

Dying because you were defending a load of 'stuff' or carrying too much 'stuff' is absurd. The more you know, the less you carry. 

If I was going to carry a food source, it would probably be lard - highest calorific content per weight, used on arctic treks for this reason. 

Aboriginal races are the ideal to aim for, the ultimate survivalists.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 20:17 | 5051778 Kirk2NCC1701
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I thought it was a Walmart store.  My bad.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 00:34 | 5052728 BringOnTheAsteroid
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When you see images like this does it ever make you wonder if any of these people are thinking to themselves it might be a good idea not to have so many kids?

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:35 | 5051389 junction
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Mecca a No Go? Next stop Manhattan. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 02:37 | 5052891 nc551
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Hedgeless, Check out rainy day foods (walton feed) out of utah.  You can get a 1 year supply of basic food in superpails (>20 years) for about $800 shipped last time I bought. 2225 calories per day, >60gr protein, maybe 80.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:32 | 5051345 medium giraffe
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pfft.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:35 | 5051390 mastersnark
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How unpatriotic of you. Any good American is freaking out right now.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:27 | 5051355 jefferson32
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On his death bed, Pasteur denounced the germ theory of disease.

Tue, 08/05/2014 - 18:31 | 5051376 kaiserhoff
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Him and most of Africa apparently.

Gawdhelpus.

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