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ISIS Marches On (And The Saudis Are Getting Nervous)

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Submitted by Pater Tenebrarum via Acting-Man blog,

Destroying Iraq's Cultural Heritage

The fundamentalist retro-gang that has conquered Northern Iraq has decided it needs to go Taliban on cultural monuments it disapproves of. One of the most recent outrages was the destruction of the tomb of Yunus, better known in the West as the prophet Jonah (yes, the biblical one who spent some time in the belly of a whale). Jonah is one of the prophets revered by both Christians and Muslims, so the motivation is not entirely clear. However, this is by far not the only ancient religious site ISIS has destroyed in the vicinity of Mosul. Reportedly the group has by now destroyed some 30 ancient shrines, churches, mosques and Hussainiyas in the area of Mosul alone. Oddly, this included at least four Sunni mosques, so there appears to be a certain degree of arbitrariness to these actions. Yazidi monuments are of course also on the list of things ISIS destroys whenever an occasion presents itself.

In short, the group is not only killing people that don't conform to its harsh version of Islam, it is also trying to erase all traces of their history and culture. It cares not one whit how old or unique these buildings and monuments are. For instance, the mosque of Yunus was built on an archeological site the oldest parts of which date back to the 8th century BC. In short, there are buildings in Iraq that have survived 2,800 years of upheaval and strife, but they haven't survived the coming of ISIS. Apparently ISIS considers all the shrines and mosques it destroys “places of apostasy”. In the course of its rampage it has also burned the books of the Diyala province's library, so reading is apparently a no-no for ISIS as well.

It should be noted that this rabid interpretation of Sunni Islam is quite a retrogression from Islam as it was originally practiced in the centuries after its founding. The schism between Shi'ites and Sunnites of course goes back almost to the beginning of the Muslim religion. However, although the Muslim rulers of old were expansionist and not at all averse to warfare, were actually relatively tolerant of members of other religions living on their lands.

A tiny part of the traditions established at the time are even preserved by ISIS in a way. It reportedly gives Christians living in the areas of Iraq and Syria it controls the choice between conversion, paying the jizya tax, or death. The payment of this special tax was historically actually not regarded as an injustice, but was rather seen as an attempt to balance the Muslim zakat tax and so to speak create a level playing field. Of course for ISIS it is just another source of revenue.

It is quite ironic that one of the main financial backers of ISIS is finally getting worried a bit in light of all these events:

“Saudi Arabia is seeking help from Pakistan and Egypt to protect its borders and religious sites from attacks by the Islamic State (IS), formerly known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS), the International Business Times reported.

 

"The kingdom is calling in favors from Egypt and Pakistan. No one is certain what ISIS has planned, but it's clear a group like this will target Mecca if it can. We expect them to run out of steam, but no one is taking any chances," the International Business Times wrote Sunday citing an adviser to the Saudi government. The jihadist group started a large-scale offensive against Iraq’s Shiite government led by Nouri Maliki in June, aiming to seize Baghdad.

 

Militants have destroyed several prominent religious sites in the Iraqi city of Mosul, some 400 kilometers (nearly 250 miles) north of Baghdad, over the past weeks. The group defended their actions by saying, "The demolition of structures erected above graves is a matter of great religious clarity," according to Agence France-Presse.'

 

Among the levelled sites were some of the main mosques, the Nabi Yunus shrine (Tomb of Jonah) and a shrine to The Prophet Seth. Eleven sites of Christian worship have been destroyed, including the Chaldean archdiocese, as well as the Diyala Province Library, where approximately 1,500 books were burnt.

(emphasis added)

We would add to this that there is no proof that the Saudi government has done anything beyond tolerating that rich private Saudi citizens supported ISIS with donations, but let us apply some logical thinking here. This is an army that has grown from an “estimated 2,000 fighters” to “no-one knows how many fighters” practically overnight. As we have pointed out previously, it has quite a lot of sophisticated equipment at its disposal as well. Not only military equipment, but also things like construction machinery. It runs its own oil and gas fields and even has a kind of propaganda ministry capable of regularly putting out slickly produced recruitment videos. When it was recently reported that the group has taken over the Mosul dam, it was revealed that there are also numerous engineers in its ranks who have previously helped with employing water as a weapon to help its war effort (see also below).

So this is clearly not a fly-by-night operation at all, quite the contrary (for some additional background on this, here is a list of our previous articles on ISIS, or IS as it is now calling itself since it has proclaimed its caliphate, in chronological order:  “ISIS Attempts to Establish Islamist Caliphate” , “The Cheerful, Yet Lethal Prophet”, "Iraq Continues to Unravel and "Islamic Caliphate Proclaimed).

What can one conclude from this fact? That some unknown djihadist with the nom-de-guerre Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi managed to actually create a huge, well-trained and well-equipped army plus an apparatus that has many characteristics of a State, or better said, a well-run vertically integrated military-industrial-religious conglomerate, out of thin air? And every single intelligence agency in the world just happened to 'miss' that this was happening? Doesn't sound very credible, does it?

It seems far more likely that ISIS did in fact receive state support, quite possibly from more than just one state. Probably it was intended as a counterweight to Shi'ite (or Allawite), influence in Iraq and Syria, mainly in order to thwart Iran, resp. lessen its regional influence. Presumably, this abomination has eventually developed a dynamic of its own and has ultimately gotten out of control, big time.

 

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The prophet Yunus Mosque before it was blown up by ISIS. Henceforth, it will forever remain a post card.

(Photo via beirut-today.com / Author unknown)

 

Water as a Weapon

Using water as a weapon in Iraq is not exactly a new idea. Saddam reportedly already considered flooding a large area of Iraq by blasting the Mosul dam so as to entrap the US army, but evidently reconsidered this course (too much damage would have been wrought). What he definitely did do was to divert water from the Southern Iraqi marshes, where Euphrates and Tigris meet – the largest area of natural wetlands in the Middle East. This was done to drive out the so-called Marsh Arabs, nomadic Shi'ites who have lived in the area for centuries. He actually managed to almost completely dry out this unique habitat, poisoning the soil over a vast area, as salts would no longer be washed out. In an astonishing demonstration of nature's persistence, the marshes have almost completely recovered since Saddam's exitus.

Anyway, Saddam was no doubt a fount of rationality and reserved politeness compared to ISIS. Hence recent news that the group had captured the huge Mosul dam was greeted with some trepidation – especially as the dam is already considered an accident waiting to happen, due to long neglected maintenance.

In the meantime it has emerged that Kurdish Peshmerga have apparently managed to hold or retake the Mosul dam, although these reports emanating from the fog of an ongoing war are probably not very reliable. After all, the ISIS takeover of the dam was originally reported by Kurdish forces as well, which incidentally lost three cities and an oil field to ISIS over the very same weekend. One thing is certain, if the ISIS leadership were to prove crazy enough to use the dam to create an artificial flood, it would be a gigantic catastrophe.

 

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An aerial view of the Mosul dam

(Photo © Ali Haidar Khan)

 

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A close up picture of the Mosul dam installations made by the US army corps of engineers in 2006. At the time it was already noted that the rickety structure was in urgent need of renovation. It may not even require sabotage by ISIS for a catastrophic breakdown of the dam to happen.

(Photo © Reuters)

Whether or not ISIS actually controls the dam, it definitely does control large parts of the upper reaches of both Euphrates and Tigris in Northern Iraq. With that it has already control over several major dams, and is presumably in a position to make life difficult for those living downstream. In fact, the New Scientist reported in mid June already that ISIS had apparently captured the Mosul dam (that is the one at “risk of collapse” in the excerpt below):

“Iraq is ancient Mesopotamia, the once-fertile floodplain of the Tigris and Euphrates that cradled the first human civilization. The rivers remain crucial to the farming on which most Iraqis depend, according to a report by the International Centre for Agricultural Research on the Dry Areas, which was once based in Aleppo, Syria, but has now decamped to Amman in Jordan to avoid fighting.

 

ISIS now controls several major dams on the rivers, for instance at Haditha and Samarra. It also holds one 30 kilometers north of Mosul that was built on fragile rock and poses a risk of collapse. It holds at least 8 billion cubic meters of water. In 2003, there were fears Iraqi troops might destroy the dam to wipe out invading forces. US military engineers calculated that the resulting wave would obliterate Mosul and even hit Baghdad.

 

ISIS has already used water as a weapon, in a smaller way. In late April ISIS stopped flow through the relatively small Nuaimiyah dam on the Euphrates in Fallujah, reportedly with the aim of depriving Baghdad and southern Iraq of water. It could also have been to block military approaches to the town.

 

Instead, the river backed up and poured into an irrigation canal, flooding the town of Abu Ghraib and dozens of surrounding villages over 200 square kilometers. Five people died, and 20,000 to 40,000 families fled to Baghdad. 

(emphasis added)

 

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Dams allegedly controlled by ISIS as of mid June.

(Map via plattformbelomonte.blogspot.co.at)

 

As can be seen above, ISIS definitely doesn't shy away from using water as a weapon when it feels that occasion demands it.

 

ISIS Conquers its First Slice of Lebanon

In order to blackmail Lebanon's government into releasing one of its leaders who was recently captured, ISIS recently expanded its conquest into Lebanon as well, capturing the fairly large city of Arsal, in a Sunni majority region near the Syrian border. Arsal houses 40,000 regular residents and 120,000 Syrian refugees, so it is not just some hick town. According to the Wire:

“Militants associated with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) captured the Lebanese city of Arsal in fighting that began on Friday and continued Monday.

 

According to The Telegraph, a Syrian rebel group set up check-points in the border city but have not yet declared the area as part of the caliphate. In addition to 40,000 residents, there are roughly 120,000 refugees living in Arsal.

 

The conflict broke out after the Lebanese Army arrested Abu Ahmad al-Jumaa, a former commander in the Free Syrian Army who later declared allegiance to ISIS. Officials said they arrested Jumaa because he planned to attack an army outpost.

 

Since the Syrian Uprising began in 2011, an estimated one million refugees have crossed the nearly 250 mile border from Syria into Lebanon, a number expected to hit 1.5 million by the end of 2014 The United Nation's Refugee Agency predicts.

 

The Sunni insurgents said they will leave Arsal if the government releases Jumaa, something Lebanese Prime Minister Tammam Slama flatly rejected on Monday. 

(emphasis added)

National borders haven't stopped ISIS before, and evidently the border between Syria and Lebanon isn't regarded as anything special by it either.  Moreover, this incursion potentially promises a to give it a chance to tussle with Hezbollah, the Shi'ite political party and militant group that predominates in Lebanon. Since its members are apostates in ISIS' book, it probably relishes the opportunity.

 

Lebanon incursion

The Lebanese city of Arsal has been captured by ISIS as well now, so to speak in passing.

(Map via gotnewswire.com)

 

Amazingly, this happened practically concurrently with ISIS' forays into Kurdish held territory, which shows what enormous reach the organization actually has by now. It seems pretty clear that its membership is far larger than the estimated 2000 fighters that were attributed to it as recently as in April or May.

 

Conclusion:

Luckily, there is absolutely nothing to worry about. Not only do the Saudis believe that “ISIS will run out of steam” just before it gets to Mecca (see above), but more importantly, “the US State Department also issued a statement that it was “actively monitoring” the Iraqi situation” (apparently it neglected to “actively monitor” the Lebanese situation though).

What could possibly go wrong?

 

Addendum:  Even More War, Just Around the Corner …

Just in case you thought there wasn't enough bloodshed and war in the world just yet, another old conflict has just broken into the open again, namely the never-ending battle between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave.

“Azerbaijan and Armenia on Monday both reported more losses in a sharp escalation of fighting over the South Caucasus region Nagorno-Karabakh, with 18 soldiers now confirmed dead.” 

What the hell is going on we wonder? Is it something in the air? Note that all of this is happening with stock markets still fairly close to their recent all time highs. If the markets decline from here, it will signal a worsening social mood, which as a rule tends to invite even more war.

 

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Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:05 | 5054926 alexcojones
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Able Baker Al Bag Daddy.Righttttttt.

Like Tim Osman before him.

Saudis Heart Mossad and Vice Versa.

French Report ISIL Leader Mossad Agent (13257)

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:09 | 5054944 Ivan Nokabolokov
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I'm waiting for the Syrian government in waiting to say something.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:24 | 5055027 Uncle Remus
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Allahu Akbar?

 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:20 | 5055005 Uncle Remus
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.

No one is certain what ISIS has planned, but it's clear a group like this will target Mecca if it can.

 

Just in time for Hajj. What could go wrong?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:50 | 5055837 Duffy
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why not.  they'll do whatever their masters command.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:27 | 5055048 richsob
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OK, here me out here: the U.S. could obliterate ISIS with an air campaign. ISIS has no air defenses against B-52's, B-1B Lancers, B2's, etc. The President could give the order to blow these assholes to hell and gone and the U.S. military would gladly comply. And it's not being done. Why? Iraqi sensitivities? No. The Iraqi's are so desperate they are asking the Russians and Iranians for help. Israel would object? No, as if that would be reason enough not to do it. U.S. personnel would be at risk? No, nobody but ISIS personnel and the poor bastards who can't get away from them would be at risk. Fear of killing civilians? Yea, that really held the U.S. back in umpteen other situations. The answer: the Obama administration is afraid to act. Pure cowardice. They are deathly afraid of being labeled war mongers and put in the same category as Bush. But there comes a time when a true leader doesn't worry about that kind of stuff. He does what is right. What is right is stopping ISIS dead in its tracks before this cancer sets the entire Middle East on fire and we have a crisis beyond anyone's control. The ISIS people are animals. Put them down. Now.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:30 | 5055070 Notsobadwlad
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It is most likely more simple than that.

It makes most sense that the US is backing ISIS.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:35 | 5055097 richsob
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No way the U.S. is backing ISIS as it runs rampant through Iraq. They are unwinding everything the U.S. supposedly fought for. Unless you're saying Obama is loving this and I can't believe that as much as I detest the SOB. He is not acting because he is afraid of his legacy vs. Bush. Pure and simple.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:40 | 5055440 Jackagain
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Fact is, the American war machine needs a Boogieman...the leading export for America since 1812 has been war and it's components (banking, selling war machines, etc.). There's nothing America hates more than a war ending....

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:37 | 5055102 richsob
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double post

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:32 | 5055083 Tenshin Headache
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I think Israel might object. I'll leave it to you to figure out why.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:29 | 5055132 JLee2027
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The American people object, hello.  Let Israel bomb the Shiite out of them.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:15 | 5055671 Duffy
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You'd look pretty in my scope, gorgeous.

You and that cunt mouth.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:55 | 5055861 JLee2027
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That's nice. Anything important to say?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:28 | 5055055 Notsobadwlad
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It is kind of a shame that Saudi Arabia has threatened to spurn the US in favor of it new BFF Russia. Otherwise IS would most likely not be marching on Mecca.

Will Israel come to the rescue of Saudi Arabia?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:30 | 5055069 Tenshin Headache
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Not if the Saudis are looking to Pakistan and Egypt.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:28 | 5055062 SmittyinLA
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The Kurds are a tool incapable of anything on their own

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:31 | 5055074 Anarchy 99
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maybe "IS" is a message for the Saud scum from dear Uncle: back away from China, or else.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:38 | 5055116 roadhazard
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Who ever this Ali Baghdaddy is is Ok with me. I am a great believer in Muslim on Muslim violence, Any religion that believes if I don't convert their way they are going to kill me needs to die themselves. Them killing each other is pure gravy for me.

It's where the Jews get the edge for me. They don't want to kill me for not turning Jew.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:26 | 5055354 Uncle Remus
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Not being a Jew on the other hand puts you square in their crosshairs ese. If not theirs, then the crosshairs of their "enemy" they send YOU to fight.

And "turning" Jew isn't really on the table and they aren't asking.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:18 | 5055679 roadhazard
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Thanks for telling me things I already know. I'm always in someones interweb crosshairs and it doesn't change a thing.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:34 | 5056322 Monty Burns
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They don't want to kill me for not turning Jew.

Agreed, but you might get killed in the war they send you off to fight for them.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:48 | 5056398 roadhazard
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They will have to come to my house.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:43 | 5055146 himaroid
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Word is, jerry brown suggested Glen Canyon Dam dam to isis.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:49 | 5055181 BeetleBailey
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ISIS, YOU-SIS, WE-SIS

FUCK ALL THIS

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:55 | 5055214 andrewp111
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I would love to see the entire Royal Family of Saudi Arabia get beheaded by the monster they created. That is what they deserve. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys. As soon as the Saudis lose one battle, the princes will be climbing over each other to get on planes to London, and when ISIS storms the country, helicopters will be taking princes off of rooftops.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:31 | 5056298 Monty Burns
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I'd die happy were that to happen.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:00 | 5055231 Anarchy 99
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and speaking of Traitors (to the american people):

In a recent National Review op-ed in which (rand) Paul criticized the Obama administration for not being sufficiently pro-Israel. “I think it is clear by now: Israel has shown remarkable restraint. It possesses a military with clear superiority over that of its Palestinian neighbors, yet it does not respond to threat after threat, provocation after provocation, with the type of force that would decisively end their conflict.”

This “remarkable restraint” has shocked the world, for the past few weeks, as over 1,900 Palestinians have been killed; most of them civilians and many of them children. The backdrop of this brutal attack is an illegal occupation and a system of segregation that many, throughout the world, view as apartheid.

remember this prick at election time, (not that voting matters anyway)

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:11 | 5055654 luckystars
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Rand saw his dad as ineffective and weak, so he rebelled and jumped on the joo wagon.

pfft

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:26 | 5056259 Monty Burns
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We don't  know what RP really thinks. What he does know is that without paying homage to his Jewish /Israeli masters his career is over.  Maybe if he can get serious power he can revert to being a patriot. An American one.

The dual citizens are not really traitors because their first and over-riding loyalty is to Israel. The 'American' piece of the duality is just a convenience for them to wag the dog.  These guys are doing all they can for 'their' country and if the American people are stupid enough to hand over control to them, well ......

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 14:59 | 5055241 americanspirit
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"No one is certain what ISIS has planned, but it's clear a group like this will target Mecca if it can. We expect them to run out of steam, but no one is taking any chances." Saudi spokesman.

Hey woman-beaters there in SA - news flash for you. What do you want to bet that ISIS isn't already in Mecca?

Just name your bet, short dicks - I'll take it.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:12 | 5055936 Canucklehead
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Nobody cares about Gaza, even the Gazans.  Here are a couple of Yahoo articles:

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-analysis-hamas-emerges-weakened-gaza-war-192801275.html

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-analysis-hamas-emerges-weakened-gaza-war-192801275.html

I think these articles define stupidity and denial.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:18 | 5055964 Canucklehead
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Here is another News Sky Link.  Talk about a disconnect:

http://news.sky.com/story/1313613/israel-us-relationship-on-the-rocks-over-gaza

I think Gaza is going to get pounded again.  Hamas thinks they are players.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:20 | 5055248 falak pema
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On this ongoing issue ONE fact that has HISTORICAL relevance and should be remembered as such for what it was and whose legacy is now leaving a trail of mayhem all through the ME and East Europe.

1° In march 2011 the West, on the back of Arabian spring  in Tunisia and Tahrir Square Egypt, stage managed a regime change in Libya that was authorised by the UN for "humanitarian reasons". It went much further than that. The West took out a despot who was a "thorn" in the great scheme of things as planned in DC. 

2° In September 2011 Obammy came to Cannes and during that G 20 meeting he complimented his ally Sarko for his role in that successful operation, by eulogising Franco-US relations "from Yorktown to Libya". That relation was now cast in stone for the follow up : the same performance being planned  in Syria, then still under the covers but simmering in Arabian spring movements in Damascus. 

3° We know how that played out and we know how both Libya fake take over as Syrian push and shove have both hit the wall, as in Iraq now with ISIS rampaging and Afghan where 2 star generals get payback...Shades of Nam now emerging like walking zombies from the sordid past ! 

Anyways, History now is written, it is what it is. 

The Great game that Pax americana plays is now the EXACT opposite of what was planned in the spirit of "Yorktown to Libya!"....

Can the Count of Monte Cristo be more relevant as cultural reference to warrant payback for those who commit such scams like in that book, about a man who stole a another man's wife and then robbed the Bey of Janina of his wealth and condemned his daughter to slavery... 

On a more mundane plane, read this more in terms of History getting phukked up on the key prize issue in the game : Libya's oil wells :

The CIA should read the Count of Monte Cristo more often. 

Apparently Putin knows his geopoltics as his literature.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/libyas-oil-sector-is-in-freefall-2014-8/

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:12 | 5055295 danpos
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Militants have destroyed many prominent sites and beheaded many nice people over the past weeks.

The group defended their actions by saying, "Having no sense of humor whatsoever is a matter of great religious clarity."

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:22 | 5055338 Ban KKiller
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Power mad zealots who think God speaks to them. Line them up, shoot them dead....that is the goal, right? Let's nuke the nuke sites and leave the ashes for the new sand dunes to cover up. 

Religion, what a bunch of crock. MEN are the insane ones. Religion is an excuse for grabing power. Clearly. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:34 | 5055401 mastersnark
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Bummer. What happened to all the moral soldiers that would show respect for historical sites, while being paid to kill and maim people who don't agree with their paymasters?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 15:45 | 5055473 Duffy
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just another proxy terror group in the employ of The Land of New Judea. 

The House of Saud must know that they are on the neocon hit list...

 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:07 | 5055625 JLee2027
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Israel says 

'HAND OF GOD SENT MISSILE INTO SEA'

"...The commander recalled: “A missile was fired from Gaza....This particular missile was going to hit either the Azrieli Towers, the Kirya (Israel’s equivalent of the Pentagon) or [a central Tel Aviv railway station]. Hundreds could have died. Iron Dome...fired the first [interceptor]. It missed. Second [interceptor]. It missed. This is very rare. I was in shock. At this point we had just four seconds until the missile lands. We had already notified emergency services to converge on the target location and had warned of a mass-casualty incident.

“Suddenly, Iron Dome (which calculates wind speeds, among other things) shows a major wind coming from the east, a strong wind that … sends the missile into the sea. We were all stunned. I stood up and shouted, ‘There is a God!’

“I witnessed this miracle with my own eyes. It was not told or reported to me. I saw the hand of God send that missile into the sea.”

http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:13 | 5055658 luckystars
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back to self chosen fairy tales....hahahah

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:11 | 5055932 JLee2027
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Which of the following is true:

 

1) You deny HAMAS is firing missles into Israel.

2) You deny that GOD protects Israel.

3) You claim Israel created ISIS

4) All of the above.

5) I am a women acting like a man, and really don't know.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:35 | 5056047 luckystars
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lol

I am a woman, and if standing up for myself is acting like a man then Bully for Me!

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 19:25 | 5056534 JLee2027
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Calling someone else's beliefs "fairy tales" in public is not standing up for yourself. It is mocking others, acting like a man, and an abomination before GOD. 

Since you are a woman, act like a lady and not a jerk.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 22:30 | 5057155 Jam
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Just because you're Jewish doesn't mean you can't act like a human. Oh.... sorry, my mistake.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 03:25 | 5057776 JLee2027
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I'm not Jewish.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:59 | 5056161 luckystars
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You guys must have cheap Astrologers. What a bad time to choose war.

Saturn is squaring the Israeli Mars which means more conflict, damage to

your economy and reputation.

At the end of March 2015, suggest renewed upheaval and grief. This combination of aspects point to what may be the final chapter of the most recent iteration of a grueling and destructive historical quarrel.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:25 | 5055710 Duffy
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it's an unguided rocket...  with no real warhead, the firing of thousands starting after multiple air strikes from Israeli f15s in Gaza for a kidnapping Hamas didn't even do in the WB - all a pretext to damage civilian infrastructure amongst the indigenous people of Israel the Zionazis are still hoping to ethnically cleanse...

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/07/08/who-started-the-cycle-of-v...

http://scotthorton.org/interviews/2014/07/02/070214-max-blumenthal/

If your g0d, if your clergy urge on and celebrate the murder of hundreds of children, based on a pretext and a lie, perhaps you're really serving The Other Guy - the Dark Lord...

Perhaps its even obvious and the Gnostics were right:

‘You are a holy people unto the LORD thy God and He has chosen you above all others upon the face of the earth…Therefore when the LORD your God brings you into the land you are to possess and casts out the many peoples living there, you shall slaughter them all and utterly destroy them…You shall make no agreements with them nor show them any mercy. You shall destroy their altars, break down their images, cut down their groves and burn their graven images with fire…

– Deuteronomy, ch. 14

 

I wonder if you've seen that recent Russell Crowe movie "Noah" JLEE.  The Goddess Danu told me She wants you to see it.

Then she wants you to stop touching children and to stop taking the words of long-dead primitives seriously.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:11 | 5055934 JLee2027
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I'm still waiting for you to say something important.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:21 | 5056260 Uncle Remus
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See - that's the downside of subjective analysis...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:36 | 5056050 mastersnark
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The Only Living God is not protecting them as they do not believe in Him: "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also." 1 John 22-23

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 19:26 | 5056540 JLee2027
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Member for
9 weeks 5 days
Uh huh. Same story, new alias.
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 20:16 | 5056677 luckystars
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The zerohedge time keeper.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 09:39 | 5058445 mastersnark
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Yes, I am really [_________] your nemesis and I registered this account almost 2 and a half months ago just so I could copy paste the Bible.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:07 | 5055626 MathWins
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The U.S. State Department is actively monitoring the situation?  Yeah, that will stop them in their tracks.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:09 | 5055639 luckystars
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Why isn't Israel worried about ISIS?

 

ahahahaha

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:12 | 5055941 JLee2027
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Why aren't you worried about GOD?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:37 | 5056340 luckystars
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Why should I worry about God? God is fine.

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 19:27 | 5056542 JLee2027
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Because you are a women but you act like a man, and that is a sin before GOD.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 19:53 | 5056621 Dickweed Wang
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"I'm a teepee, I'm a wigwam, I'm a teepee, I'm a wigwam, I'm a teepee, I'm a wigwam."

"You're too tense."

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 20:11 | 5056651 luckystars
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I know I scare you....Bwwwaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

What about your Israeli girl soldiers? Sin before GOD.

Golda Meir LOOKED like a man! Sin before GOD.

in other news.

My idea

Shoppers use app in supermarkets to boycott Israel.

Just swipe......Joo....No Joo.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/08/06/shoppers-use-app-to-...

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 20:44 | 5056771 JLee2027
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Avoiding discussing your sin does not diminish it. 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 21:16 | 5056872 luckystars
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Sin? Are you crazy?

Who gave you the man/woman script?

ahahahaah

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 22:01 | 5057034 JLee2027
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The Bible. Do you deny it?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 23:29 | 5057329 luckystars
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I'm not acting like a man, I am acting like a Jewess. Spreading my opinion all over the place and challenging others perceptions and religions.

Now go get me Chinese To Go and a glass of wine!

I would never read the old testament.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:28 | 5055727 esum
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there is no mystery what isis/isil aka IS....(reminds me of "prince" name change... )

if you step back and look at what obama has done versus his hot air.... HE plotted the muslim spring for 3 years...TOPPLED LYBIA, EGYPT (which righted itself), destabilized Syria and failed to topple it, FUNDED ISIS whose goal is the calipahte, and toppled the elected Ukraine govt... So obama the commie muslim is HELPING FULFIL THE MUZZIE DREAM OF "THE CALIPHATE.... whicih notice he is cozying up to IRAN that also propsoes THE CALIPHATE.... HE IS ONE OF THEM....

they said THEY WILL "TAKE MECCA AND DESTROY IT, THEY WILLL TAKE JORDAN AND SAUDI ARABIA AND THE REST OF THE MIDDLE EAST AND N. AFRICA IN DUE COURSE"....  

we could stop them in their tracks in a week.... but wont.... now remember when al douchebagdaddy was set free from bagrum prison (and funded by the ussa with $30 million bucks) he said "see you in new york"....... hence obama opened the border WIDE and gave cover with illegals he secretly funded from Guat/Honuras and Mex.... plus some muzzie sleepers est by y border patrol to be 10-15% of thise crossing. remember al queda set up operational bases in venexuela and central america over a decade ago... well here they come

Obama's brother is a member of the muslim brotherhood and so is Obama.......HE IS ONE OF THEM

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:29 | 5055737 AdvancingTime
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Things have deteriorated to the point that Americans will take any opportunity to take their eyes off what is happening in Iraq, the country has become a train wreck and is rapidly morphing into a failed State. It is often unwise to take your eyes off a problem for long because when you look back you might find that things have gone horribly wrong, this is the case in Iraq and Syria.

The lyrics from a song "slip sliding away" come to mind as a way to describe the massive investment made in Iraq by America. Recently a group called ISIS shocked much of the world by swiftly capturing Mosul in an offensive that allowed the group to take control of major parts of northern and western Iraq. On June 29, 2014 the Islamist militants declared  an Islamic "caliphate" in an area straddling Iraq and Syria. More on this subject in the article below.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/08/islamic-state-of-iraq-and-levant....

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:52 | 5055842 yrbmegr
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The Saudis are not actually nervous.  They control ISIS.  An "adviser to the Saudi government" professes to believe they are nervous.  This could be ignorance of what the Saudi government is really up to, because the last intelligence chief got canned for being too forthright about their activities.  Or, it could be misinformation being dispensed on behalf of the Saudi government to hide the fact that they control ISIS.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 16:54 | 5055850 Duffy
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control?  it is highly unlikely CIA/Mossad would let them do more than fund it and arrange arms via Turkey.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:12 | 5056212 Monty Burns
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I'd happily freeze through an Irish winter if I thought the Saudis were going to get fucked over.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:14 | 5055947 thecrap0n
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This whole situation could have been avoided simply by allowing Saddam to remain in power, but thanks to the stupidity of the Republican party, ISIS exists.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 23:28 | 5057369 luckystars
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We got Kuwait to slant drill. When Saddam went to the US Ambassador April Gillespie he complained about it. She said "the US has no position on border disputes" They lured him in.

Like they lured Hitler into Poland by having the Poles massacre ethnic Germans.

Putin is smart, he knows this and didn't bite in Ukraine.

Hence all the articles "Where's Putin"

not taking the bait is where.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 17:40 | 5056068 earleflorida
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On June 9, 1938 Gen. Chiang Kai-shek (KMT/ Chinese Nationalist Party[Kuomintang]) of China broke the levees on the 'Yellow River' in Henan Province in the city of Wuhan...killing nearly a million innocent chinese peasants. His motive was to destroy the Japanese army from advancing, but it backfired?!? Actually, he was in chinese communist territory (Mao Zedong PRC ) during the 'Second-Sino-Jap War', so it matter'd little.

so, sixty-six years hence what has changed,... not really much, except for geography?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood

http://asianhistory.about.com/od/china/f/Yellow-River-Chinese-History.htm

Ps. Think Jordan River today? 

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:09 | 5056201 Monty Burns
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But.....but, I thought Chiang was Our Guy, the Good Guy?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 19:33 | 5056554 earleflorida
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Indeed, as was Syngman Rhee of South Korea, installed as primary puppeteer via USSA on july 24, 1948.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngman_Rhee

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:11 | 5056205 Laddie
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Syria was slated to undergo what Libya and Iraq did, destabilization. This was the primary aim of the Jewish lobby and so the government of the USA, the slave of the Jewish lobby, went ahead and trained and armed ISIS to overthrow Assad. Who is an ophthalmologist.

Well either by design or chance this version of "Al Quadea" is now attacking Iraq and Syria. So they are doing their master's bidding, the rank and file, as always not knowing they are serving another Master than the one they think.

John McCain was grumbling just a few short months ago that we needed to give MORE weaponry to the ISIS and their ilk.

As of June 2003 Israel has cost the US taxpayers over $3 Trillion. Probably double that by now.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306020.html

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:14 | 5056225 ZZR600
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Who knows, but some suggestions that Abu Bakr al Baghdadi is a Mossad plant

 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/04/french-report-isil-leader-mossad/

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:33 | 5056316 yogibear
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The grand prize is the Saudi oil fields.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 19:07 | 5056465 Village-idiot
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No, the grand prize is a natural gas pipeline into Europe.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 19:19 | 5056344 Dickweed Wang
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Does anyone wonder why:

  • ISIS does not attack Israel?
  • ISIS does not support the Palestiniens against Israel?
  • ISIS "rebels" are being transported to Isralie hospitals for treatment and then sent back to the war zones?
  • ISIS "targets" are always enemies of the Zionists?

More than something stinks about the whole "ISIS" thing.

UPDATE - Here's part of the answer to the above (via Brandon Turbeville at activistpost.com - entire article can be found here; http://www.activistpost.com/2014/08/why-arent-isis-and-al-qaeda-attackin...):

In a 2011 report conducted by The Media Line,[1] an international news organization which focuses on the Middle East, Arieh O’Sullivan was able to film an Israeli-run terrorist mercenary training camp, complete with interviews, on-scene narration, and ample video footage of actual training taking place.

As the report begins, one can see a multicultural group of men –Arabs, Africans, Europeans, etc. – dressed in typical Arab clothing, riding camels, and taking part in tactical training.

“The men on these camels have been training for the past week to operate in the Arab world,” O’Sullivan says. “They dress as Arabs, even take a ride on a desert Ferrari [camel] and learn rudimentary phrases that will allow them to do their job. They have come to Israel to learn from former members of the country’s secret services.

The report continues by saying,

On this training base, run by the International Security Academy Israel, they are tapping into Israel’s unique experience in dealing with these threats and learning counterterrorism techniques in convoy and [VIP? ] protection. The changes in the Middle East may be dubbed the Arab Spring but, to continue with another metaphor, it’s about to get hot.

Out here far away from prying eyes, a group of personal protection specialists have come to Israel to learn about the Israeli tactics. Their background is diverse – from police to military officers – even a former French Legionnaire. They will go on to work for governments and private security contractors.

In an interview with one of the “students,” the future mercenary stated, “Only the best can train here with the best. I have this feeling that I was . . . something like was bringing me here . . . something was like ‘Go. Go and do it now.’”

Another mercenary who was interviewed, stated, “Well, I learn a lot because Israel have bring up a standard of training that everyone in the world will have to emulate from them. And, with this, as I’m going back, I think I will take what I have learned in Israel, to impart on my fellow colleagues.”

The narrator then adds, “But it’s an expensive program, costing upwards of $2,000 Euros a week. But this can be a lucrative profession, earning thousands of Euros a day. Just don’t call them mercenaries.” Still, O’Sullivan ends by saying, “This line of work is one of the oldest in the world. Still, it seems like it is always in demand.”

A mercenary who appeared to be from Singapore, named Venky Raman, also chimed in. “Some of those dictatorships governments have fallen basically. And that’s going to create new chaos and confusion in the market. And that’s also going to create some instability in the market. So that’s why I think we’re getting more of these incidents and terrorist attacks and such going to happen.”

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 20:13 | 5056666 luckystars
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Because ISIS IS IS-rael.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 18:42 | 5056361 butchtrucks
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ISIS CRISIS!!

Where's the mandatory heads-on-spikes photo?

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 19:04 | 5056459 Village-idiot
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We'll all know who was behind all this as soon a Natural Gas pipeline across Syria is ok'd. 

Everyone except Russia and Syria wants it built, especially Europe and Turkey.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 20:40 | 5056749 Quaderratic Probing
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ISIS takes what it is allowed to take. This New Religion will terrorize the old one. Mos killing Mos to be the right hand of God.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 21:52 | 5057006 IronForge
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They seem to forget that ISIL is pumping Oil and Gas for Profit now.  With the Dam, they should be able to do some real Nation-Building.

I suspect that they use a healthy portion of Petrol Profits to Gear Up and Expand further outward.

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 21:58 | 5057030 bilejones
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Destroying evidence of actual ancient middle eastern civilizations does seem to be a feature of neo-con incited wars.

 

Can't think why.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 01:12 | 5057600 JamesBond
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So the Crusades were basically a waste of time?

 

jb

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 01:29 | 5057623 bilejones
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No, they were an attemp to disract the peasnants from their misery.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:18 | 5058965 falak pema
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Well Dubya has brought them back into fashion with a vengeance.
ISIS now posturing to be the Mamelukes of this new age.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:06 | 5061412 Arbeit_Macht_Frei
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Wouldn't you think that they'd be marching across to Israel by now and saving their Palestinian brethren? Or is something going on that we're not being told. LMFAO.

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