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Russian Retaliation: Putin Orders Ban On All Food Imports From Sanctioning Countries For A Year
Last week we noted Russia was considering banning fruit from Europe (as well as various other sanctions retaliations) but this morning Vladimir Putin has come out swinging by signing 'a decree on countermeasures to Western sanctions':
- *PUTIN BANS FOOD IMPORTS FROM COUNTRIES SANCTIONING RUSSIA: IFX
- *PUTIN ORDERS GOVT TO PREVENT ACCELERATED GROWTH OF FOOD PRICES
So trade wars escalate externally and price controls internally. It appears the US (and Europe) will indeed feel "tangible losses" despite Jack Lew's promises.
Putin adds:
- *PUTIN BANS, LIMITS FOOD IMPORTS FOR YR: IFX
- *PUTIN CALLS FOR INCREASE IN DOMESTIC FOOD SUPPLIES
- *PUTIN ORDERS GOVT TO MAKE LIST OF RESTRICTED AGR. PRODUCTS
- *RUSSIAN GOVT WORKING ON LIST OF FOODS, PRODUCTS TO RESTRICT
President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday signed a decree on countermeasures to Western sanctions.
The document entitled “On the Application of Certain Special Economic Measures to Ensure the Security of the Russian Federation” prohibits or restricts, for one year, the import of certain kinds of agricultural products, raw materials and food originating in a country that has imposed economic sanctions against Russian companies and (or) individuals or has joined such sanctions.
In addition, local analysts consider all the possibilities:
“Russia’s response to Western sanctions may vary from country to country. In relations with the United States Russia may raise the question of banning US fast food outlets, which treat their customers to products harmful to health. The same applies to the marketing of PepsiCo products and genetically modified goods from the US,” the expert said.
“Some claim that tens of thousands of Russians may lose jobs in US fast food chains, while others argue that Russian businessmen are quite capable of opening a chain of domestic fast food joints selling natural fried potatoes, and not of Brazilian flour,” Delyagin said.
“In relations with the United States the most sensitive measures may be taken in the banking sphere. Also, there is a possibility of replacing Microsoft software being used at Russia’s government structures with alternative substitutes,” the analyst said.
“Also, Russia may stop letting NASA use its rockets as a means of delivering cargoes to the International Space Station, a service the United States is so much interested in. Or, if asked to go ahead with space cooperation, Moscow may address Washington with its own conditions,” Delyagin said.
“As far as Germany as Russia’s main economic partner in the European Union is concerned, the two countries have strong bonds in power engineering and the automobile industry. But Russia may as well import high precision machine tools from advanced countries in the Asia-Pacific Region, which will surely result in direct losses for German manufacturers,” the analyst said.
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US officials are not happy...
“Assuming that they take this action, it would be blatant protectionism,” Clayton Yeutter, a U.S. Trade Representative under President Ronald Reagan, said in a phone interview.
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Did he not see Christine of Argentina (Main exporter of Beef), AFTER the World Cup?
Do you think that they arranged a Golf Tournement?
What about the so called Bankruptcy from The Wall Street vultures for Agentina?
All posted today:Russia to propose Turkey replace Polish, Moldavian fruit imports
Russia can help to organise crude oil supplies from Iran — Energy Ministry
Western Sanctions See Russia Looking to China for Military, Aerospace Components
The long term effect on Poland will be catastrophic
That was the only part that made me cringe.
They could have said that they will ensure a smooth transition away from Pink Slime and sawdust burgers.
pods
Good observation. This time around however, it is not a tin-pot dictator pulling the levers. I gather they have thought this one through, that sure is a big country in which to grow food.
Print money to pay people to farm. It's job creation of the finest degree.
PUTIN ORDERS GOVT TO PREVENT ACCELERATED GROWTH OF FOOD PRICES
I don't read this as necessarily referring to price controls.
Other accounts of this action have indicated the Russian government is being careful to source food items from elsewhere (Iran and Turkey, for instance) prior to banning imports.
They are not stupid per se. They are highly paid amoral shills for the totalitarian fascist state. In one respect, however, they do seem to demonstrate utter stupidity. That is the fact that they seem to have completely forgotten the history lesson provided by The French Revolution.
No they aren't that stupid, but they think that you and I are that stupid.
they don't want our high fructose corn syrup,,, how insulting
Pity French farmers, a reason to hate Hollande even more.
"Assuming that they take this action, it would be blatant protectionism,” - ROFLamo, ".. and if they do it we are going to spank them! that's right SPANK! them"
You just gave Reggie's lover a boner!
I guess that's better than latent protectionism.
Its early yet, but that could well be the dumb fuck comment of the month. Have to wait and see what Obama says, though.
So, we get no Russian caviar and they get no Twinkies?
As Borat would say 'verry niiiiice'
'Hiya five ah'
Borat my become the iconic prophet of our times
Our only hope is that all of the comes back to bite the corporate spokespeople (politicians) in the ass in all the countries involved.
You must stay optimistic folks...
So will the lower demand on food mean lower prices for us serfs?
Yeahhhhhh ... sure it will <cough>.
Go Putin. Any enemy of the NWO is a friend of mine. F the queens.
actually we will buy meat from Brazil instead of sanctions list countries... it's not like we don't have ours foods also...
why russia is even importing any food ? country has so much agricultural potential. weird
same way why was France selling goods in dollars...
because of this?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnG4lpcn9aM
" Vladimir Putin is eyeing a $20bn (£11.8bn) trade deal with Iran that would see Russia sidestep Western sanctions on its energy sector.
Under the terms of a five-year accord, Russia would help Iran organise oil sales as well as “cooperate in the oil-gas industry, construction of power plants, grids, supply of machinery, consumer goods and agriculture products”, according to a statement by the Energy Ministry in Moscow. However, the Russian government mysteriously withdrew that statement last night, saying it would issue a new one on Wednesday.
Despite the U-turn, news of a possible agreement hit US markets. The Dow fell 139 points, or 0.8pc, led by energy companies such as Chevron, down 2.5pc, and ExxonMobil, down 1.9pc. Brent Crude fell 1.5pc before recovering to trade down 0.7pc at $104.61. A deal could see Russia buying 500,000 barrels of Iranian oil a day, the Moscow-based Kommersant newspaper has previously reported. That would be about a fifth of Iran’s output in June and half its exports.
There’s a question over “how substantive this memorandum is”, Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects in London, told Bloomberg. “There would be various practical limitations in terms of Iran’s current production capacity, geography and shipping logistics, as well as US sanctions.
The move would be a win-win for both nations after they were hit with Western sanctions aimed at limiting their energy sectors."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/1101460...
SSo russia and Iran are going to sell oil to each other to side step western governments???????
I thought both were exporters of oil , do not they have enough for their own use........
Somehow I do not see this as anygame changerr....
Your question is better asked in this way: what will Russia receive for helping iran avoid oil trade sanctions? Will the US impose oil sanctions on Russia and unwisely expect the EU to follow? Again, Putin wins this hand.
Exactly. And regarding ...what will Russia receive for helping iran avoid oil trade sanctions?...
Russia can help to organise crude oil supplies from Iran — Energy Ministry
6 August
Excerpt:
“The implementation of the agreement with Iran will create conditions for tapping the potential of trade and economic cooperation between our countries, which should boost bilateral trade with more Russian goods and services going to Iran in such areas as metallurgy, ore mining, car making, machine-and ship-building, agriculture, and pharmaceutics,” the minister said.
“Our Iranian partners have already determined some of their needs with a focus on the supply of pumps and compressors, gas turbines, rolled steel, pipes, equipment for power plants, wheat, legumes and oil crops, meat, wood and wood products, equipment and machinery for tanning and textile industries. Iran is also interested in joint construction of power generation facilities and coal field development,” Novak said.
That is going to hurt McDonalds....its all Bull Borchst...no Cabbage for you Vlad..
Russia may import food from Turkey to compensate.
06.08.2014
Russia will increase the supplies of fruit and vegetables from Turkey
The head of the Rosselkhoznadzor Sergey Dankvert on Friday, 8 August, to discuss with representative of the Ministry of agriculture of Turkey Nihat Pakdil the possibility of increasing the import of fruit and vegetable products from this country, writes Russian.rt.com.
The negotiations will be held in the format of telephone conference, reports the Agency.
Lets see if the Putin command economy, based on RMs that the Casino economy of the West desires obsessively, will fare better than the previous command economy of the Soviets, totally based on the MIC.
The new cold war now going global from Europe to Africa and on to China is now the battleground between two corrupt models.
What a race to bottom this has become. 1914..1939...2015 ?
Message to Washington, don't bring a knife to a gunfight if you wan't to take on Russia. Plus the Russian "pain" threshhold" is much higher than in the "West". Conclusion, it's on like Donkey Kong.
Plus the Russian "pain" threshhold" is much higher than in the "West".
Holeheartedly agree. You think they care about western sanctions after 90s??!! muahahaha
very much agree, they can hold together longer under distress allot longer than U.S. society
And most importantly, they don't have devisive politicians.
Seems like a winner.
Long hotdogs and apple pie.
Good luck with imported Chinese "food". The Chinese have to get rid of the pork, know what I mean?
A chain of McDowell's coming to Moscow soon. They have the "golden arches" we have the "golden archs"!
Well he is correct in his assessment that the way to stir up a fuss in thr EU is to kick the farmers.
best comment here, this action by russia is to hurt the euro states, not the us
The obsequious Europeans seem not to have learned yet that if you kiss enough US ass, you will ultimately get shit in your face.
Putin is no dummy. This will hurt the EU much more than the US.
Just as the US appeared to be using MH17 to alienate Europe from Russia, Russia is using food sanctions to alienate Europe from the US.
When I was a poor young buck, I once went into a five star restaurant in New Orleans with my girlfriend. The wise old waiter caught on pretty quick. He said "I'd quit while I was ahead if I was you." We left after one drink. Good advice.
I know a guy who did that on a double date--after eating he and his buddy climbed out the men's room window.
Dear Treasury Jack Jew,
How did 25+ years of sanctions work out with Iran. Did you think it would work out differently this time around. Iran just ignored you, Russia has retaliated. What will those Jew killing Gaza genocidal planners come up with to sell war with Russia?
See how easy it is to predict your next move? This is why Hitler sent your DNA type into the gas chambers. The race card gets a face palm..I'm a American!
Down voters, the truth will be exposed. Might want to talk with the ADL or AiPC to isolate the truth. Down votes mean that you're fucking nervous in getting new funding on the backs of intelligent US Taxpayers.
Fuck you BIBI. Why do you think Ariel Sharon was put into a comma? You're a genocide axe handler. Ariel wanted peace, you want death. BIBI, you have a scope looking down on you. Pray that you can become Ariel.
Top US Exports
America's exports to Russia amounted to
$11.2 billion or 0.7% of overall US exports1. Machines, engines, pumps: $2.3 billion
2. Vehicles: $2 billion
3. Aircraft, spacecraft: $2 billion
4. Electronic equipment: $674.2 million
5. Medical, technical equipment: $659.9 million
6. Plastics: $378.7 million
7. Meat: $323.9 million
8. Inorganic chemicals: $237 million
9. Fruits, nuts: $222.6 million
10. Other chemical goods: $199.3 million
You forgot one, military contracts.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/nuclear-fuel-cycle/uranium-resources/m...
http://www.usec.com/russian-contracts/megatons-megawatts
Connect the dots. This program started in the Reagan era. Obama claimed this fame, it was a lie.
This is aimed more at Europe than the US, I think.
Brussels wakes up each morning thinking about Global control of the planet called Earth. Just like little sexual pedifiles, they have a mission.
http://www.nsopw.gov/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
Find the sick fucks in the White House and Hollywood group.
as i said, its more about russia weaning itself off of the west in preparation of war rather than looking to inflict damage to the u.s. via sanctions.....
but dont think there wont be a few mega corporations complaining to the u.s. gov about losing earnings over this.....
Hmmm, perhaps the CPI ex food and energy was prescient? Deflation given the biggest/best corn and wheat harvest in year is likely
PUTIN CALLS FOR INCREASE IN DOMESTIC FOOD SUPPLIES
That's very Obama-like of him to demand that.
Nonsense, don't confuse the people here ! Obama is a Marxist, Putin is a Libertarian.
You have no idea about the banking system. There is no red or blue, just the disaster of divide and take.
Good luck to you for not understanding central planning economics. You will not be able to service the derivatives requirements.
Thank you new slave participate. Carry on.
Putin will make it come to fruition. With increased production the price controls will end up being a windfall to food producers. Could happen here also if greed didn't make everyone shoot themselves in the foot. Price controls on production that the government can't control doesn't work. These will work because Putin can force production levels.
Re: Putin can force production levels.
You mean by using the power of the central government to force the landowners to produce more against their will? I don't think Putin would do that because he loves the Free Market. Now, Obama does that all the time, that's why so many on here are waiting for Putin to liberate them.
USSR Returns ...Where is the Five Year Plan
California is in a drought. We need the food here anyway.
go fark yourself DC. You asked for this shit. If the American people would just remove these criminals from office then we could get back to a world of less tyranny.
gives credence to the notion that Ukraine is as much a food war as anything else
More specifically, perhaps: a bee war:
Ukraine - the Bee War
9 June 2014
...Russia accused Monsanto of killing off the bees by use of a neuro-toxin, derived from nicotine, in its crops...Putin also indicated that the issue could lead to world war.Ukraine fits into this picture as the "bread basket" of Europe. It's massive fields and rich soil have made it a market for Monsanto, Cargill, and Dow. Until now, companies like Cargill produced seed in Ukraine, but not GMO seed. That is banned by Ukrainian law. The prominence of GMOs therefore stopped at the Polish border - some distance from Russia. The European Union itself had banned GMOs, but that has since changed - and that is key.
With the overthrow of the previous President, based primarily on not agreeing to sign an EU association agreement, the new authorities in Kiev have been pushing toward signing the agreement. That agreement will require Ukraine to allow practices like GMOs. That places GMOs right on Russia's border, and directly affects the purity of its crops and, more importantly, the famous Russian honey bee. Yet it seems like such a small thing to bring the world to the brink of war over. However, look at the ramifications of it...
The US has never gone to war with a country that had a McDonald's franchise. TPTB are just setting up the board.
Guess Russia doesn't want our junk food. Pink slime on sale now at Wal-Mart.
So, hungry Ruskies and cold Germans; that's a good combination.
Hey no fairs! Obummer is busy not resting, how dare these Russian folks actually respond in kind to act of war sanctions? I swear, the insolence of these folks!
Fertilizer is a huge Russian export ( urea ) to grow the food but why not go the whole hog and cut the energy.
FUCK THE EU LIKE OUR AMERICAN FRIENDS DO.
piss (urea) on the brussels unelected scum
Oh no protectionism, the nerves he has.
What about all that Israeli produce? Or is it not banned because Israel is not sanctioning Russia?
Jooze win again?
In most western nations, the industrial food lobby is second only to the energy lobby.
A lot of senators, congressman, MPs etc etc etc are about to get their ears chewed off by pissed off campaign donors.
Sanctions will be "tapered" within a month or two, Obama (and moreso his handlers) are once again shown up to be a total fucking amateurs.
who is ready for a food fight the uk or russia : )
While many in the world are completely dependent on large scale agriculture, the Russian people feed themselves. Their agricultural economy is small scale, predominantly organic and in the capable hands of the nation's people. Russians have something built into their DNA that creates the desire to grow their own food. It's a habit that has fed the Russian nation for centuries. It's not just a hobby but a massive contribution to Russia's agriculture.
in 2011, dacha gardens produced over 80% of the countries fruit and berries, over 66% of the vegetables, almost 80% of the potatoes and nearly 50% of the nations milk, much of it consumed raw.
http://naturalhomes.org/naturalliving/russian-dacha.htm
Keep it up, Vladimir. Keep it up. As wrong as Obama and the U.S. have been in many different ways Putin is sowing the seeds of his own destruction. Things are not going well in Russia right now and the temporary boost of nationalistic pride the average Russian is feeling will dissipate as the economy remains stagnant and the sanctions game begins to hurt more and more. Europe will suffer too. Nobdy can win in this game. Eventually Putin and the West will reconcile because ALL politicians want to save their own asses when push comes to shove.
You have no clue. There are still a lot of countries who don't whore themselves out but wish to maintain cultural and national integrity. Unlike the US, which has been ginned up via stolen taxes (aka fees) from businesses to fund the welfare swigging gutter snipes and their minature gutter snipes, Russians are a proud people and they don't care to be what the west it. They will follow Putin to hell if it means they retain their "Russianess" and not become Whoremerica, where everything is for sale and women now think a stripper pole is an "accessory." How stupid can American women get?
Oh boy, back to turnips and fishead soup....
Yummy !!!!!!!!!!!!!
luckylogger girly is back.
what do you grow you perverted rabbi?
all you do is ferment beans and corn syrup in your rotten zionist guts you pig : )
“If the Americans like to eat GMO products, let them eat it then. We don’t need to do that; we have enough space and opportunities to produce organic food,
russia will not import GMO products, the country’s Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said, adding that the nation has enough space and resources to produce organic food.
Moscow has no reason to encourage the production of genetically modified products or import them into the country, Medvedev told a congress of deputies from rural settlements on Saturday.
i enjoy poking the putin pussy brigrade with a stick.....
I poked a badger one day with a stick.........
All I get here is red arrows...
I just cant get over the audacity or stupidity of the US/EU on this, especially the latter. These are the same people that went through Leningrad blockade. They honestly think some sectorial sanctions will cause them to change their course all of a sudden? Germany should know how that story ends better than anyone. BTW, saw an article recently; Putin's approval rating went by 7% to 87% after 3rd level sanctions were announced. Just something that gives an insight into Russian psyche I guess.. Meanwhile our beloved leader of "the free world" numbers are closer to his golf score.
A prudent move. The beltway psychopaths are not above intercepting goods and "contaminating" them - then blaming a 3rd party.
"Fixing" computers and routers, adding some special "sauce", sprinkle a few bacteria here and there.... there is no moral and/or ethical floor to what they consider "patriotic" and "legally acceptable" behavior.
A country with no GMO's in the food supply... what a pleasant thought.
new gooseshtepping Moron's comment on the drift to greater self-reliance and national indepence is first-class. It must be the way forward and Putin should regard the EU/US futile efforts to humiliate Russia as a blessing in disguise.
And why is it assumed that Russia is somehow technically non-geek. It has some of the finest mathemiticians, scientists and engineers in the world. The West's intellectual conceit is astounding and illusory. They have the same patronising attitude towards the Asians when China is turning out scientists and engineers by the thousands. This is what will tell in the long run.
The West will soon believe Kondratiev.
very nice reference.
hmmm.... "Protectionism" if Russia does it, but "Righteous Sanctions" if the US does it.
I smell a rat.
'I smell a rat'...Its the same rat they keep trotting out every week, its frigging huge! has a smell of corruption emanating from it with just a whiff of moral indignation, farts out US dollars and has USA,USA branded on the side, you can't miss it.
*PUTIN BANS FOOD IMPORTS FROM COUNTRIES SANCTIONING RUSSIA: IFX"
"PUTIN ORDERS GOVT TO PREVENT ACCELERATED GROWTH OF FOOD PRICES"
So Putin orders lower food supply + Putin orders suppressed food prices
= Putin orders food shortages.
That could get interesting.
You are confusing the meaning of those orders. Obama is the Marxist and does stuff like that all the time. Putin is a Free-Enterprise loving Libertarian; which is why Russia has done so well in the last decade. That's just the MSM trying to turn you against the REAL side that loves liberty.
Pls. read also the russian sources (damned, you can't, of), you could read there, that the imports of fruits and vegetables, some 8% of the total market, from Poland will be compensated by imports from Turkey (in today's news for example). This is just one example.
And yes, due to the Ukrainian war there are no imports from Ua and the russian farmers are extremly happy, earning the money of their life, as they stated in the news...
European food chains import their stuff anyhow from North Africa.
how did u get to this. lol
"= Putin orders food shortages."
Oops, I forgot: Thou shalt not speak with anything but effusive Love of the Putin on ZH .
His shit don't stink, either.
I can't wait to see how the spin this in the the cause of worldwide food inflation.
"Excess food production worldwide has lead to an increase in food costs."
Jeezus. I guess it never occured to those who decided to wage economic war on Russia, that Russia might just "shoot" back.
"What do you think untold trillions and possibly quadrillions of fiat currency allocated to the black budget was used for? Really think the US DoD, Navy, Airforce, etc.. just lost interest in dominating space after the moon landing"
you mean the phony apollo program. what a laugher. the greatest hoax of all time until the attacks on 9/11/01
you ever wonder why russia never attempted to put humans on the moon? they were ahead of the u.s.s.a. in all aspects of space exploration. the idea that they made so many trips to the moon is ludicrous. it defies the imagination that they could have left and returned thru the earth's atmosphere, and landed and took off from the moon that many times, like they were taking a sunday afternoon drive. mercy
For those not in the know about the supposed moon landings:
1) Viewing the pictures from the supposed landings one will often find reused background scenery in them. Some from the same mission and some between missions.
2) All of the video and pictures from Apollo 13, the one that had the dramatic accident, show a blue cast in the spacecraft's widows even when supposedly far from earth. The blue cast is because the spacecraft was actually in low earth orbit around earth and no where near the moon.
Stanley Kubrick was forced or tricked into participating in the moon landing hoax and changed up the original Shining book to reflect his discontent in his movie the Shining.
Long and detailed version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oBG-f3c5EU
A short highlight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=excskT6ix_g
Space Aliens or PhotoShop?
http://www.kunc.org/post/tracks-equipment-left-apollo-missions-visible-n...
Re. Putin Orders Ban On All Food.
With severe drought throughout the western states ( and other ?) can the USA afford to export food produce ?
US doesn't matter in this. This is mostly a blow to the EU South which is already going through hell.
Oh DARN, I suppose I have to ignore all of those ad's on ZH for these Russian womeniski? Sounds like ZH itself is going to take an ad revenue hit!
@ Head_Shots_Work .
Ads on ZeroHedge ? what browswer are you using ? i don't see any ads.
I like to make sure I'm tracked carefully by the NSA (and everyone else) - so Goggle Chromed of course! This way I have lots of proof I wasn't where 'they' said I was when 'whatever they said happens' happens. Don't you watch crime shows on our mindless multimedia systems? No way I could have been at that yogurt shop judge - I was posting on ZH from work!
WHAT!!, no more hot Russian woman, damn Obama.
DC US: "Iraq had WMDs and 'yellowcake' so it that was okay."
Mr. Putin, I know you read ZH, so here's a suggestion: Ban all Russia airspace overflights by airlines based in sanctioning countries and their buddies. That'll cost 'em billions, squeeze'em nicely.
That was already on the list of possible sanctions discussed in Russia. Vlad hates you for stealing his ideas.
Delta stocks lost 2.82% yesterday.
American Airlines - 2.5%
United Airlines - 3.43%
Globalization renders sanctions impotent. The champions of Globalization now have their a@@e handed back to them.
Consider this, while the Communist-in-Charge Oboma, who barely knew how to manage his check register, was "elected" so everyone could pat themselves on the back (the adult version of everyone gets a trophy just for showing up), Putin reminds all that the world is a chomping beast, always at the ready to gobble up the beer-bellied, welfare swigging, watch one more torture porn, hoi polloi.
Russia still has a strong infrastructure of small, not farms, but kinda like summer houses that people escape to in the heat. These small houses with their plots of lands are where the Russians grow fruit, vegetables, chickens, et al. They are not for the rich, because Russia has lots of land it is cheap to own one of these and they are common to the Russian citizens. Because of these small Russian "farms," the Russians still know how to grow and save their own food whereas in the US, anyone six blocks from a McDonalds is considered to be in a food desert. Snort.
Meanwhile, in the US, Oboma and beginning in a population nuclear war with Clinton who lowered the bar and began the invasion of foreigners from third world countries and their wet-birth certificate "relatives," continues to give the US away to anyone who is not white. PROOF that whites are so stupid they can't even protect their own children's future.
Why is that statement not racist? Because the Mexicans, who are the majority invading the US, are the main pipeline of drug suppliers (heroin and meth especially) to the black community. The Mexican duo sword of destroying blacks is drugs and population explosion. The black community's best move would be to align with the Republicans and STOP all immigration and agree to do whatever it takes to end the drug selling into their communities.
Putin has to be admired in some ways. He refuses to allow Aids to take hold via the endless sexual gutter that is male gay bathhouse sex. As was stated in the movie The Normal Heart (gay advocacy movie about the start of the Aids epidemic; similar to The Band Played On), "They have taken up sexual promiscuity as their cause."
Really? Really? The selling of random anonymous gutter sex Ruins our culture and Ruins our children's future. Time to straighten up, Americans. Stop tattooing yourselves; Stop telling Hollywood you'll watch their soul degrading, whored-out movies; Stop the invasion of immigrants, NOT ONE MORE. Immigration is the greatest ponzi scheme ever known to the history of the world.
Instead, if we eat it, we grow it in the US. If we wear it, we make it in the US. If we use it, we make it in the US. And that means Apple Computers and shoes and that means it's time to shape up and be a moral country again.
Sorry accidentally double clicked and don't know how to take down this second "same" post.
Simply edit the previous posting to one period like this "."
Just do an edit on it and delete the content except for the words 'sorry double post'
"Clinton who lowered the bar and began the invasion of foreigners"
Why do you enter the play at Clinton and not Reagan? Reagan for legalizing the 'forefathers' of the current crop of illegals which set precedent.
Consider this, while the Communist-in-Charge Oboma, who barely knew how to manage his check register, was "elected" so everyone could pat themselves on the back (the adult version of everyone gets a trophy just for showing up), Putin reminds all that the world is a chomping beast, always at the ready to gobble up the beer-bellied, welfare swigging, watch one more torture porn, hoi polloi.
Russia still has a strong infrastructure of small, not farms, but kinda like summer houses that people escape to in the heat. These small houses with their plots of lands are where the Russians grow fruit, vegetables, chickens, et al. They are not for the rich, because Russia has lots of land it is cheap to own one of these and they are common to the Russian citizens. Because of these small Russian "farms," the Russians still know how to grow and save their own food whereas in the US, anyone six blocks from a McDonalds is considered to be in a food desert. Snort.
Meanwhile, in the US, Oboma and beginning in a population nuclear war with Clinton who lowered the bar and began the invasion of foreigners from third world countries and their wet-birth certificate "relatives," continues to give the US away to anyone who is not white. PROOF that whites are so stupid they can't even protect their own children's future.
Why is that statement not racist? Because the Mexicans, who are the majority invading the US, are the main pipeline of drug suppliers (heroin and meth especially) to the black community. The Mexican duo sword of destroying blacks is drugs and population explosion. The black community's best move would be to align with the Republicans and STOP all immigration and agree to do whatever it takes to end the drug selling into their communities.
Putin has to be admired in some ways. He refuses to allow Aids to take hold via the endless sexual gutter that is male gay bathhouse sex. As was stated in the movie The Normal Heart (gay advocacy movie about the start of the Aids epidemic; similar to The Band Played On), "They have taken up sexual promiscuity as their cause."
Really? Really? The selling of random anonymous gutter sex Ruins our culture and Ruins our children's future. Time to straighten up, Americans. Stop tattooing yourselves; Stop telling Hollywood you'll watch their soul degrading, whored-out movies; Stop the invasion of immigrants, NOT ONE MORE. Immigration is the greatest ponzi scheme ever known to the history of the world.
Instead, if we eat it, we grow it in the US. If we wear it, we make it in the US. If we use it, we make it in the US. And that means Apple Computers and shoes and that means it's time to shape up and be a moral country again.
Kumquat you are bang on. Hellywood is a large part of the machine. As for becoming a moral country again, I try to be as moral as i can and I think most people try. When inundated with propaganda 24/7 our brains are about as washed as there going to be. I was describing to another sheepson the book I was reading that was penned in the 1600's and the above average intellect it presented verses todays thinking. I mean one paragraph of this book would set me off in thought for an hour. The book is William Gurnell, and is available free online.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/gurnall/armour/files/armour.html
Of course, I get the standard line of how intelligent we are today. We are not nearly as thoughtful about any matters, as they were back then. Morals will change when this nation gets decimated, and not a second sooner.
This is interesting, but are not MOST Russians too poor to own a car, let alone a dacha? This sounds like an upper class/upper-middle class activity, not something that "most Russians" can do.
I love the idea of having a wee place to grow veges/fruits, apart from the house in the city. Wish land here was cheap enough that MOST Americans could re-learn what their great-grandparents once knew, that is, self-sufficiency and how to support onesself on the land.
I live at 8000 feet, but even up here I grow tomatoes, herbs and more. During the winter, I have a "vertical garden" about 12 x 5 feet, on my kitchen wall, where most of my salad veges grow. Tomatoes are grown hydroponically in the third bathroom (rarely used.)
Even urbanistas can be self-sufficient ... well, maybe not self-sufficient, but quite a bit closer.
When the SHTF the Russians will carry on like they did the day before. A nation of survivalists who know the worth of a potato.
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Globalisation is a scam for global corporations to take control of all of the worlds food production and distribution, once complete you will only be able to buy a limited range all under the same corporations control at the price they fix, control peoples food you control the people.
Russia is much better off away from it.
“Assuming that they take this action, it would be blatant protectionism,”
said Clayton Yetter, spokesman for the US Dept of the Obvious.
What the hell does he THINK they'd do? You're damned right it's protectionism. That is why these types of tactics are often found to create bigger problems than they solve, Clay.
You see, when you try to punch someone in the face, they don't just stand there and let you have a go at it. They try to block you.
And Clay, you should also be aware that sometimes they actually hit you right back. So be prepared in case THAT happens.
May I point out that you're trying to lecture a mental retard. Clay is a retard, not too different from GW Bush or Obama or any of their brainless advisors.
These sanctions are getting out of control and the US started it. In any case, not only will this harm the US companies that (do/did) business there but also the Russian consumers. Costs of certain goods will begin to rise dramatically. Oh, but they sound like they will use price controls as a counter-measure, which of course means that you will have shortages to anyone that knows basic economics. It is protectionist, but Russia is no stranger to protecitonism and so this should not be a shock.
Its a soap opera. All of it is fake. We have been getting played from day one by both sides. For cryin out loud the demonstraitors were given a free pass on attacking cops. Try that anywhere the cops will shoot all protesters on the spot.
I Call Bullshit!
I don't think small potatoes like you and I are of enough importance to merit any "playing" of this scale and nature.
The powers that be can simply screw you as they like. What are you gonna do about it? I haven't seen any measurable resistance to the continued economic recession, continued police state legislation like Patriot Act, continued abuse via TSA screening, continued 10%+ inflation in groceries year after year, etc.
Just as long as Vladdie doesn't ban the export of hot blond Russian masseues! That wud be an act of war!
Every time O'BOLA dictates an X$ sanction against Russia, Putin should quickly respond with a 2X$ sanction against the u.s. Valerie and Victoria et al should then start to think twice about their next checkers move against the Russian chess player.
The big barrier called Putin
If everything in the west wasn't made in China there would be no corporate buy back of their stocks.Profits are made at the same rate as years ago due to the gutting of American manufacturing that's gone to Communist China.Not much is made in the U.S. anymore so the point is that the U.S. has enough problems of its own,especially the growing drought each year across California and up into the midwest.There are growing food problems across the U.S. in many forms.Try taking poor Americans of of food stamps and just watch what happens to American society.The old Republicans of years gone by looked after Americans at home first.Let everyone else fight it out,who the hell wants to be a referee to all the dictators?I agree with what Ron Paul says most of the time.Seems like nosense to me to be socializing countless nations around the globe and spending hundreds of billions overseas to be the world's military cop.It's been a literal disaster for American foreign policy on just about everything.Right now the right-wing neocons have got Henry Kissinger and all the old school diplomats locked out and Obama won't talk to any of them.You can tell that Obama and The State Department are all on opium.coo-coo
The worst accusation is "Protectionism". This shows you how far along toward NWO globalism has gone. I would LOVE if my government were to PROTECT American jobs and industry instead of stripping away all regulation and allowing the carrion birds to continue to peck away at our guts, by carrion birds I mean international corporations and the few oligarchs who own and run them.
A story from my youth.
So I am sitting in shop class and this guy comes over and tells me this other guy is talking smack. I look over and the guy who is supposedly talking smack is my bud. The friend of the guy telling me my friend is talking smack is whispring in my friends ear. We wink at each other as real friends do and play along, set up the date after school to dance.
We made them assholes eat dirt litteraly eat dirt. If only we could have found some cat shit.
Oh Nikita you will never know, anything about my home.
I'll never feel how good it feels to hold you, oh no, Nikita you'll never know.
Oh Nikita is the other side, of any given, line in time, counting ten tin soilders in a row, oh no, Nikita you'll never know....
Well who gone fucked this shit up and invented the fucking bastard internet Vlad? Who the fuck, which cunt, which fool thought that the average bloke in any fucking country couldnt be swayed by fucking bollocks?
Who broke the hold? Had to be that cunt Elton John, didnt it?
The propaganda NSA, GCHQ, it dont work no more, now fuck off and play in the traffic.
Cunts.
;-)
Better still, ask the Queem, that fucker knows some funny shit, ask her son 'Big Lugs', he most certainly 'Knows', doesnt he?
;-)
This will kill EU chicken producers. While in the west people prefer the white meat of chickens, in Russia the people love the dark meat parts. This allows producers in the EU and USA a perfect market. the EU buys white meat at a premium, while Russian markets buy dark meat at a premium. Result, Happy Chicken producers!
We actually like to eat all chicken. not a parts of it...
Russia should make large scale land lease arrangements with China to develope agriculture in the sparsely populated Far East. Kazarhkstan has made this type of deal with China. It has worked well for both sides.
NO SOUP, ONE YEAR!!!!!
Little man
Best counter is no food exports to Russia for TWO years following their 1 year.
Anyone think Russia will be better off in 3 years?
Government intervention is good.
Signed: an American.
'three' cheers for intervention citizenism!
Alas! Alas! Three times alas!
How was that?
Ukrainian seasonal workers used to come to Poland, to work at small farms 12 hours a day 7 days a week for $700.
I guess Polish farmers will be pissed off and tell Ukrainians, "No Europe for you!"
Then, Ukrainian workers will be pissed off at their government.
Potatoes and milk with a scant pinch of molybdenum is about all the body needs. Anything beyond that is just gravy.
The Russians are going to get their apples, wheat and rice from the BRICS countries, and that's all. The Europeans are going to have to make lots and lots of canned veggies and jams with their production, and then stick it all up... well, you see.
Putin warned, didn't he?
And he won't be paying for much in dollars or euros. Win-win.
The chickens are comimg home to roost. The people in control are out of control. They are doing everythng possilbe to destroy the United States and the world. These moves against Russia are completely unecessary and insane. They want it to be their world, the world they envision (one world they own and control) or there will be no world at all. The epitome of ego, arrogance, conceit, selfishness, and psychopathy. A five year old child could come up with a better foreign policy for the U.S. than the current administration, who is either taking orders from the TPTB or is stupid and ignorant beyond belief. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. You can see it coming every step of the way, and yet dread the final outcome. It's time to get off the internet and out into the streets. Call a congress man/woman and give them a piece of your mind. Every week. Every day if need be if you're up to it. Our voice is really the only thing we have left (since we only vote once every few years, and our vote doesn't count for much since after we elect the SOBs, they proceed to break all of the bullshit promises they made and do whatever they want). It's time to make some noise people. If we don't, who will?
>>...world they envision (one world they own and control) or there will be no world at all...
Where I sit, no world, one world all the same just with different paint on it. Take your pick, like voting, A or B doesn't matter leads to C.
I actually think the Russians fear what is in the food.