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70% Of Americans Believe Illegal Immigrants Threaten Way Of Life

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In recent weeks, Bloomberg Businessweek reports, President Obama and congressional Republicans have begun to offer the same simple-sounding solution for dealing with the flood of children crossing the U.S. border alone: Send the kids home. But with tens of thousands of them churning through the system, some just toddlers, the logistics are overwhelming. Since October, more than 57,000 children have arrived by themselves, most from Central America (as we show below), and 22,000 more have been detained with their parents (mostly children under 12). The American people appears considerably more concerned than the politicians - a Reuters/Ipsos poll shows 70% of Americans - including 86% of Republicans - believe undocumented immigrants threaten traditional U.S. beliefs and customs.

 

As Bloomberg Businessweek notes,

As of June 30, fewer than 500 of the 57,000 have been sent home, and more children continue to arrive every day, despite pleas from the Obama administration to Central Americans not to come.

 

 

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents find that most don’t try to run; in fact, they want to be caught. The kids hope that being apprehended will begin another journey, one that will end with permission to remain in the U.S.

 

“It’s just been politically untenable to even improve services for these kids we were seeing, let alone prepare for emergency situations,”

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And the American people is starting to worry... as Reuters reports,

As President Barack Obama considers sidestepping Congress to loosen U.S. immigration policy, a Reuters/Ipsos poll shows Americans are deeply worried that illegal immigration is threatening the nation's culture and economy.

 

Seventy percent of Americans - including 86 percent of Republicans - believe undocumented immigrants threaten traditional U.S. beliefs and customs, according to the poll.

 

The findings suggest immigration could join Obamacare - the healthcare insurance overhaul - and the economy as hot button issues that encourage more Republicans to vote in November's congressional election.

 

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Only 17 percent thought more legal immigrants should be allowed to come to the United States. Thirty-eight percent said the number should stay the same.

 

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"If Obama starts using executive orders to grant citizenship or to stop deportations I think he gives Republicans a big opening," said Jennifer Duffy, of the Cook Political Report analyst group. "It'll be about the issue at hand, immigration, but it also feeds into this Republican narrative of overreach, of sort of abusing his power."

As one poll respondent (who has voted Dem and Rep in the last few years) noted... there was no need for either Obama or Congress to take new measures. "It doesn't matter. Enforce the laws that we have here now," he said.

 

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Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:38 | 5061547 freeasabee1
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I still blame the bankers, xynophobia is an easy card to play when you need someone to take the heat.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:45 | 5061578 nope-1004
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"Traditional US beliefs and customs"?  lmao.  Those would be.... hypocrisy, greed, entitlement, credit, impatience, and gluttony?

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:46 | 5061606 knukles
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OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION, 70% ARE CITIZENS, 30% ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS
GUESS HOW THE 70/30 SPLIT AS TO THREAT IS DIVIDED?

Adjusted for Progressive Idiocy in manner akin to AGW hockey-stick.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:59 | 5061615 Atlas_shrugging
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How do you fix a bathroom pipe that has exploded and water is running all over the house? This government seems to think that we need to move the water all around so everyone mops it up (and pays for the mops to boot). And if the water somehow harms us, well that's humanitarian and very American. Thank you Pelosi.   She and Biden say leave the water main on because we have a moral responsibility to accept more water.

 

I had a pipe explode a few months ago and learned very quickly that if you shut off the source the water stops immediately. Then, and only then can you focus on the cleanup and deal with the resident water.  

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:00 | 5061680 chubbar
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This whole "we need to fix the immigration laws" is a joke! Do we fix banking laws when bank robbers rob banks? Do we fix DMV laws when people speed? Do we water down DUI laws when there is an upsurge in drunk driving???? This is fucking absurd! Shut the fucking border down! Send the fucking illegals back to where they came from! What a bunch of assholes we have running this country! No way this isn't done on purpose. It is treason and we should be hanging the fucktards starting with Oblowme.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:06 | 5061693 AssFire
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RE: How do you fix a bathroom pipe that has exploded and water is running all over the house?

57,525  caught so far, so lets say 100k for the year...

Why not send them 100k Detroit residents each year (700k available) and lets see how they like that shit.

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:33 | 5061880 zerozulu
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now you know the reason why US is meddling in Ukraine. 30% American want to move there illegally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sVCZ8GsLTU

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:51 | 5061989 economics9698
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“70% Of Americans Believe Illegal Immigrants Threaten Way Of Life”

But the tribe approves so nothing else matters.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:20 | 5062511 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Want to stop the flood quickly... hint.hint...... cut off welfare to them. (I apologize for giving a real world solution.)

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 03:09 | 5063789 Redhotfill
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Well duh!  Why do you think there are so many "zombie" movies?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:49 | 5061624 Wait What
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don't forget consumerism, militarism, and corruption. wouldn't be amer'ka without those.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:21 | 5062886 newworldorder
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if you are a US citizen why are you still here? if you are not, why do you wish to come here?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:45 | 5063028 Wait What
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i'm here for the easy money, bro.

Americans are marks for the extraction of wealth. ppl come here to take what locals are too dumb to capitalize on, hence the proliferation of H1-B visas.

for every person spouting crap about 'democracy! capitalism! freedom!' there is another person exploiting the stupidity that surrounds that ideology for profit. that's the america i know. and you?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:22 | 5061807 Tenshin Headache
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No, before that. Before Greenspan opened the monetary spigots and gave the energy to all those human impulses.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:28 | 5061838 Bananamerican
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Traditional US beliefs and customs"? lmao. Those would be.... hypocrisy, greed, entitlement, credit, impatience, and gluttony?

Nope.
I'd say:
Fairness: Suspicion of Central Power, Humility before God, Thrift, Industry, Equal application of law, The 2nd Chance, Meritocracy, swift punishment of corruption, Common Sense, The Melting Pot (not the melted pot), all things being equal, the inclination to Liberty....the list goes on

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:41 | 5061931 NoDebt
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Terrorist!  We have a terrorist here!

(Green arrow)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:19 | 5062871 newworldorder
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keep singing. Many love your tune.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:59 | 5062026 The_Dude
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Traditional US beliefs and customs?  lmao.  Those would be.... hypocrisy, greed, entitlement, credit, impatience, and gluttony?

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You should get out and travel a little more and visit those enlightened cultures that you prop up on a pedestal.....You will quickly understand the difference and learn to appreciate what 'American Culture' means...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:17 | 5062861 newworldorder
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Come now. There surelly must be one man walking in the dark with the mere flicker of his oil lamp looking for enlightment? Dont you agree?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:16 | 5061777 doctor10
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I blame Obama for threatening the way of life!!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:38 | 5062619 fzrkid
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Its not the immigrants fault they qualify for welfare.

 

Instead of kicking someone out that could be productive, KICK out the FAHKING ARSE HOLE you elected that has proven themselves to be useless as F A H K!!!!!!

 

Immigrants should be welcomed, welfare of all forms should be abolished

 

It appears it is easier for uhmarikahns to sit on their couch stuffing their face with gvt cheese and bitch that immigrants are taking their jobs then it is to support a representative that may actually change something for the better. In the process they may also learn there is no difference between this right & left team known as democrat and repuclicans.

 

If there was a difference the USA would not be in such a f a h k e d up mess...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:14 | 5062847 newworldorder
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Two points for you to ponder.

1. They are not immigrants - they are illegal invaders.

2. Who are you to tell Amricans not to sit on their couch stuffing their face with gvt cheese?

This is the most favored pastime of the perpetually entitled, -foreign or domestic entitled.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 23:35 | 5063285 GIANTKILR
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This film is a good example of how most Americans live their lives and see foreigners:

 

Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/WEdXRsC3UYg

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 23:57 | 5063364 Implied Violins
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Blame the bankers?! More like, blame the President:

http://theconservativewife.blogspot.com/2014/06/government-hiring-escort...

This is an engineered crisis. The question is: why is this being done?

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:40 | 5063523 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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It is the oldest trick of the right-wing, pioneered in Mein Kampf.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:39 | 5061554 nmewn
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The Peoples Executive Order has been issued.

Your move Kenyan.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:40 | 5061564 Ms. Erable
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LOL! As if our opinion matters.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:48 | 5061612 nmewn
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;-)

He's still playing checkers when everyone else is playing chess. If he does amnesty (as he is threatening to do by Executive Order) impeachment will be on the table for sure, the senate will be in "hostile hands" by an even larger number that what is predicted.

But hey, I didn't give the asshole the booze & toss him the keys in the first place...lol.

His move.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:12 | 5061746 Ms. Erable
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"But hey, I didn't give the asshole the booze & toss him the keys in the first place"

O'Roarke FTMFW!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:14 | 5061759 CheapBastard
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So, basically 70% of merikans are against illegal immigration.

And, if I remember about 87% of those polled were against Obamacare. But we saw how that turned out.

Don't hold you breath.

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:32 | 5061871 Bananamerican
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You "Righties" understand that O's admin will "unravel" exactly on schedule just like W.'s don't you?
Just in time to "flip" back over to the "rescuing embrace" of the Right...lol
You "get that" don't you?
It's tag team rape.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:40 | 5061926 NoDebt
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Politicians are like diapers.  They need to be changed often and for the same reason.

And even at that we haven't gotten where this is headed (watering time).

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:56 | 5062387 nmewn
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Sorry for the late response Banana, Mrs N has my attention. Yeah I get it but we're doing a little raping of our own over here.

Its not going to hurt our feelings if ya'll do the same over there and we meet somewhere in the middle ;-) 

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:24 | 5063457 August
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>>>Just in time to "flip" back over to the "rescuing embrace" of the Right...lol
You "get that" don't you?

And then, my friends, we can look forward to a new war or two.

Rumsfeld and Cheney might even return for guest appearances.

My God, it'll make you proud once more to be an Amurican!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:33 | 5061873 Bananamerican
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.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:41 | 5061574 kaiserhoff
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Because Obama.

I've had about all the hope and change I can survive.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:44 | 5061587 Suisse
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Who says you will survive? Obama is not done yet.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:49 | 5061622 nmewn
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I guess we're going to find out if the pen (and phone) is mightier than the sword ;-)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:52 | 5061990 ACP
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Or maybe we'll find out if 2 billion rounds of ammo in the hands of bloodthirsty government goons is mightier than the sword?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:41 | 5061556 Rainman
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How you liking that billions for Homeland Security now, citizen ?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:44 | 5061585 kaiserhoff
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Damn fine point.

What is it doing that needs to be done?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:48 | 5061614 knukles
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Fuck all nothing

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:58 | 5061666 kaiserhoff
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Hey knuks,  Howsabout we volunteer to judge the wet Tee shirt competition over at Mrs Hedgeless's finishing school?

My eyes are a little weak.  Might have to use the Braille method;)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:28 | 5061840 knukles
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kaiser, I'm with you on that... grand idea...
Will they mind if we just drop in?
prolly a good thing we didn't know one another back in them old wild ass crazy college or early work days....

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:49 | 5061965 kaiserhoff
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I have a plan...  We'll bring the keg and see what happens,

True story.  My ATM at BB&T has braille on the keys, so picture this...

Blind Dude drives up to the bank...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:47 | 5062668 CheapBastard
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<< How you liking that billions for Homeland Security now, citizen ? >>

 

Yeah, they caught a few football coaches tyring to carry their pistols thru security and too-many-to-count Grammas and Grandpas smuggling false teeth thru the radar.

 

Well, worth the trillions ... eh?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:51 | 5061633 NOTaREALmerican
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Well,  double the amount.  It's obvious that more money is needed or we wouldn't have children (CHILDREN) crossing the boarder.   Imagine when them tur-bine a-wear-in mus-lims start a-sneakin-er-cross-er-boarders to capture our woman folk? 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:03 | 5062784 Central Bankster
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We all know you're a paid government stooge with the purpose of setting Red Herring arguments.  You should know by now that this forum is too intelligent for you and your kind.  Bugger off.  No one cares to address the content of your posts because that is the point of your misdirection.  You're a real piece of shit, you know that?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:39 | 5061558 Salsipuedes
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There's a fire raging in the living room and Americans are worried about the oil stains in the garage.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:50 | 5061901 Taint Boil
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They pay gas tax, sales tax, property tax through rent, do the jobs we don’t want to do, every time they buy something profits go to retail, on and on and on…… be careful what you wish for – it may come true.

Did I mention SS  … $11.2 billion dollars collected in 2007 and $2.6 billion to Medicare, most likely most never claimed…… yep, send em all back LOL

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:54 | 5062010 Oldwood
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Obviously your job is not under threat by these illegals. Carpentry wages have stayed virtually flat for thirty years, not even figuring inflation.

Obviously you don't have kids that go to public schools where English is a second language and gang violence is an everyday event.

Obviously you don't use public healthcare resources or you would find yourself standing in line for hours while illegals are getting free pregnancy exams and prenatal services.

Obviously you have way more than you need and are more than happy to share, so cough it up...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 22:18 | 5071593 Taint Boil
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Bingo – LOL – Ya got me.

Me:

 

1.      

Top 10 %.

2.      

Nothing out of my pay check for health insurance- all paid for.

3.      

Not one foreigner does my job (not yet).

4.      

My kids are bi-lingual.

5.      

Two houses 1 here and 1 Mexico Both over 2800 sq ft 1 paid for.

6.      

Work? I’ll probably work 10 hours this Sunday and probably make more in 1 day than you make a week.

7.      

On

8.      

And on

9.      

And on

 I can always spot the Fox “News” / Drudge viewers a mile away.

Please feel free to point out 1 thing in my statement in the previuos post that is not true.

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:05 | 5062086 acetinker
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Humanitarian issues aside, I can see why the folks running the Ponzi economy would encourage immigration- illegal or otherwise.

By 1990 or so, population growth in the FSoA had flattened, and you can't run a debt-based system under those conditions.  It's either growing or dying, there is no place for a scenario of zero or negative population growth.

The solution preferred by the banksters?  Import more tax-donkey debt-slaves!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:02 | 5062774 newworldorder
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I see your point. Whats not to like with the current Progressives taking us on the road to Americas destruction.

ABORT 50 million potential citizens since the womens lib movement started  - and IMPORT 30 million "immigrants" from Mexico and all the Latin American countries. Makes no difference to them.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:11 | 5062832 Central Bankster
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All the while destroying the middle class and creating a permanent underclass of voters who will vote for more social services.  The real cultural issue is that these people believe the government has unlimited resources to distribute.  The sad part is the decay is so slow, that the USA is just like a frog in water being brought to a boil.  That is why the system can't ever be allowed a crash and reset, you have to keep the irresponsible people bailed out so that nothing can be fixed.  AKA: General Motors or any of the major banks on Wall Street.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 23:30 | 5063260 acetinker
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Thx for your reply.  I don't care much for labels, though.

This world is made up of people.  Most are just regular folk who want to live together in peace.

There are certainly radical, militant groups out there who want to subjugate the regular folks to their particular brand of fanaticism, but I really don't think they'll succeed.

The scary thing is-  the folks who direct the actions of the 'radicals' are beginning to think they can't succeed either.  So, they'll use the minions of military morons to foment WWZ.

Bottom line-  The plight of the bankster class is so fkn bad that they're willing to contemplate the destruction of this society.

Sorry for the bad news, and if you have a better explanation, please share.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:53 | 5063554 August
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>>>The plight of the bankster class is so fkn bad that they're willing to contemplate the destruction of this society.

They're not only willing to contemplate said destruction, but implement it as well.

If one is in the 0.01%. it is of absolutely no consequence, or even interest, who the 99% happen to be, what language these little people speak, or what quaint customs they might practice. 

The 0.01% have only one requirement:  no violent revolution in the next few decades.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 08:26 | 5064261 acetinker
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I don't have a crystal ball, August, but it takes effort to actively exterminate.  Effort is something the .01% have no concept of.  At this time, they are still in control of the aforementioned minions, and I have no idea how long this will remain true.

No matter whether the 99% are eliminated or merely reduced to abject poverty and helplessness, at some point (and I think this is well underway) the .01%ers have no choice but to consume each other.  It's all they know.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:13 | 5062473 Salsipuedes
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Are you talking to me?....Are YOU talking to ME?....Who the fuck are you talking to?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:55 | 5062727 newworldorder
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I hate to break it to you but Bennie and his Jets and aunt Yellin are able to print as much money as the Democrats can spend. That is until the bills come due - then its every legal citizen for himself.

On the other hand if, the bill does become due - millions of illegals with be streaming out of the US like restaurant patrons with empty pockets.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:40 | 5061559 Quus Ant
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Seventy percent of Americans - including 86 percent of Republicans - believe undocumented immigrants threaten traditional U.S. beliefs and customs, according to the poll.

 

And what would those "traditional" beliefs and customs be, exactily?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:40 | 5061569 FeralSerf
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No Papists allowed.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:02 | 5061698 kaiserhoff
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How about paying your own fucking bills?  Something no piss ant kleptocrat could relate to.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:06 | 5061715 Quus Ant
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Hmmm.. paying own bills.... that's not on the wikipedia page for "culture of the united states".

But in looking around I did find this US debt clock.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:10 | 5061736 kaiserhoff
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Producers versus Parasites, Dude.

Coming soon to a country near you.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:11 | 5061742 Quus Ant
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I don't know what's coming, dude, but I aim not to miss it.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 13:13 | 5066020 FeralSerf
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The people that complain the loudest about "How about paying your own fucking bills?" are the ones that secretly support and benefit the most from "undocumented immigration", AKA importing cheap new lambs into their flocks.

The wealthiest elites and their owned politicians are the ones that are enabling and encouraging undocumented immigration.

The wealthiest elites and their owned politicians are the ones that are creating new markets and income streams from undocumented immigrants.

The wealthiest elites and their owned politicians are the ones that are benefiting from the low wages that these undocumented immigrants cause.

The wealthiest elites and their owned politicians are the ones that are benefiting by idiots like you redirecting your anger towards the undocumented immigrants and away from the Elites that actually deserve that anger.

How can you be so fucking stupid that you can't understand this? Or are you another of those Elites' shills?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:58 | 5061632 Quus Ant
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Thanksgiving?  No one wants to go to cut the turkey and find it's a chimichanga.

Or football.  It's NOT futbol. It's FOOTBALL.  A strongly held traditional belief.

I'm blanking.  I'm sure there's more.  Gimme a minute.

Shit.  I googled "American traditional beliefs" and all this native american crap came up.  The search continues.

Per wikipedia:

"The opening of College football season is a major part of American pastime. Massive marching bands accompanied by cheerleaders and colorguard are almost universal at American football games, especially during halftime. Although high school bands tend to be much smaller, it is rare for a game not to feature a marching band at halftime."

I think I'm getting somewhere.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:01 | 5061694 NOTaREALmerican
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Don't forget free hip-replacement surguries for OldFarts who claim to hate socialist health-care.  

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:03 | 5062069 Oldwood
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Don't be a dumbass.

Most people who resent social security do so because they don't agree with the whole idea, but they were forced to participate, and you want to condemn them because they are actually using what they have been forced to pay for. Simply ridiculous. Force me to buy a car and then call me a hypocrite because I actually drive it.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:45 | 5062661 Cruel Aid
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They love strawman arguments. <Head shake>

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:15 | 5062853 Central Bankster
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Don't bother reading or responding to these idiots.  Clearly paid trolls, trying to derail otherwise interesting conversation.  Their goal is to get you angry by bringing up rediculous arguments.  BEWARE OF THE INTERNET TROLLS ;).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:49 | 5062678 newworldorder
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Well you could be getting to a level of frustration with me, - having to read your propagandist dribble - but, I simply reminded myself that you are merely a troll, trying to convince Americans that illegals can ever be made legal, by simply crossing a border. Despite our dear leaders promises it will not happen.

Illegal is illegal and nothing you can say will change it.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 02:12 | 5063711 Quus Ant
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Good.  Seems like you worked through the rigmarole to discover you were right after all. 

Was there ever any doubt?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:40 | 5061563 FeralSerf
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"Send me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses . . ."

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 02:23 | 5061582 Quus Ant
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Where do you live?

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 13:13 | 5066031 FeralSerf
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Earth.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:08 | 5062111 The Boognish
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That's a poem written by a woman long ago that some asshole decided to stick on the statue of liberty; hardly a governmental policy. I will tell you though that if the poet were still alive i would drive to her house and punch her in the face.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:29 | 5062225 Oldwood
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No act of kindness or generosity ever goes unpunished. Once the weakness" has been exposed they will not relent until you lay dead on the street.

Has anyone here ever donated money to one of those groups that solicits over the phone. If so, you know they will never stop calling back and increase their demands (requests) each time. I'll never forget my first time in NYC walking the streets. I learned quick that if the panhandlers and bums ever saw you looking at them, if your eye caught theirs, they would chase you down the street.

We know why these illegals are now here. They know they won't be returned...ever. Further they have been advertised to in their home countries about how to come here and lay claim to the benefits available (which is considerable compared to where they come from, mostly generous socialist countries at that). Why wouldn't they come. And they will continue to come. And republicans will do anything to avoid being cast as haters or racists. We are fucked.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 13:19 | 5066047 FeralSerf
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The Indians that the Pilgrims met in 1620 will agree would you if they had survived. Remember King Phillip's War.

The Mexicans that allowed Americans to settle in Texas and California will agree with you.

Americans are mostly illegals.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:06 | 5062429 Cloud9.5
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“yearning to be free…” so I can work them in my factories for pennies a day. In the 19th century that idea worked for the industrial north east trying to drive down wages and for the west trying to ethnic cleanse the Indians.  Today it is plain stupid.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:37 | 5062615 newworldorder
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Up 100% - you do have a way with words.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:42 | 5061567 One And Only
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I'd like more illegal immigrants from Nordic countries...but they're smart enough to stay away.

Notice you don't see Swede's running across the Mexican border?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:46 | 5061601 Tarshatha
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And more and more Canadians. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:50 | 5061631 One And Only
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I'd settle with nothing else from Africa or South of Galveston.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:06 | 5061709 NOTaREALmerican
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Sicilians are kinda marginal too.   Anything south of Rome should be banned.    And no socialist greeks either.   No work ethics.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:15 | 5061773 NOTaREALmerican
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As long as it ain't those goddamn criminal Dagos.   

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:34 | 5062589 newworldorder
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How about millions of Christians living in the middle east for Melania. As the "religion of peace" has promised them conversion or death by the sword - Are they not worthy of asylum in the US?

My bet is that they would make great citizens and LOYAL Americans. Anyone disagree?

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:42 | 5061573 stant
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Kill whitey

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:43 | 5061576 Tarshatha
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Then by default, 70% of Americans must be racist? 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:42 | 5061580 Cognitive Dissonance
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This behavior speaks of special type of desperation on behalf of the parents of these children, particularly those children who are unattended by their parents when they cross the border.

Can any parent reading this imagine doing the same thing?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:44 | 5061592 UGrev
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Am I getting paid in Silver or Gold? 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:45 | 5061603 kaiserhoff
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Hard to imagine, CD.  Somewhat depends on how desperate and hopeless things are at home.

What a world.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:54 | 5061645 pakled
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Jounalist/Author Sonia Nazario was on the Jon Stewart show on July 28th promoting a book she wrote (Enrique's Journey) about how many of these children are seeking Asylum as opposed to immigrating. Might be hair splitting to some, but this type of migration across the Mexican border has taken on a character I've not seen in my lifetime.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:09 | 5062113 Oldwood
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You are implying that all parents care about their children as much as you do. What proof do you have of that here in America, much less a socialist/criminal environment these people come from. Many are children coming to this country to join parents that have already been living here for years. What parent would do that? Read the paper and just look at what parents are doing to their children every day...murder, sexual abuse...and even worse. Its nice to think they care, but even in our own country millions of babies are murder in the womb out of simple convenience to the mother. I do not accept your premise.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:42 | 5061581 buzzsaw99
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rinos say they oppose illegal immigration but they LOVE IT

election year crap is all it is.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:44 | 5061947 cynicalskeptic
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It's all about pursuit of the cheapest possible labor.  If you can't ship the jobs overseas you bring in cheap labor - legally at the high end with H1B's or illegally at the low end.  In the last 50 years you've seen blue collar jobs overrun with illegals.  Used to be a roofer, carpenter, painter was a solid member of the working class raising a family.   Now the real wages for such jobs have dropped dramatically and those spots are filled with illegals - often pick-up labor.  Hire a painter and you'll get one f/t supervisor and a crew of illegals.  Exterminator - one regular trained guy and some illegal doing the actual spraying and such.  

The US was SHORT of labor for the first 150-200 years.   Not enough people to do the work required and if you didn;t want to put up with one employer's demands you could go elsewhere.  If you wanted to be your own boss it was easy enugh - go west, farm, mine, whatever.  Immigrants did the crappy work like dig canals and build railroads but there WAS upward mobility if you were white.   Peopel were always climbing the ladder with new groups beginnign the climb.  The Irish moved up and looked down on Italians .... the process went on.  BUT there was a chance to do better.  You had a GROWING economy and a chance to move ahead.  The employers still played the cheap labor game - they LOVED immigrants to work the factories and mines but there were more options.

In a CONTRACTING economy competition simply drives down wages - the whole point of unfettered immigration.  Every one screams about 'growth' - but ultimately you CANNOT have unending growth on a planegt with limited resources.  In a closed system with LIMITED GROWTH the masses do better because there's competition for labor.    When populations CONTRACT things are even better for those left - look at post plague europe in the Middle Ages.    

Of course the REASONS for some of the immigrtion go back to the US - we support dictatorships and death squads in Central Aneriuca - are responsible for the 'drug war' with unfettered demand 9and gov complicity) - we make dmuch of the rest of the world a hell hole so here seems like paradise in comparison.   By looting the rest of the world of its resources at cut rate prices and havn=ing goods manufactured at minimal wages we prevent those places from getting better - even as here gets worse.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:12 | 5062128 Oldwood
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"looting the rest of the world"

Sure.

You mean Chinese electronics or Korean cars? Or is it all that oil we have been "stealing"?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:24 | 5062541 newworldorder
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A well thought out post. Some may take exception with your last paragraph, but you covered a lot of ground. Some may not be comfortable with all of it.

Lack of labor competition is a killer for the American worker.

Unfortunately most workers do not see it. It is well hidden in corporate platitudes, political slogans, racial division and hate. The ones who know that it is going on are not talking about it.

Sheep to the slaughter is an apt description for the average American worker, especially the fervant Democrats and politically captured worshipers of political ideology.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:44 | 5061593 Lookout Mountain
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Of course, there is very little correlation between issues the public feels strongly about and government response.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:46 | 5061600 AdvancingTime
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A law passed in 2008 makes a distinction and requires that these children from countries other than Mexico and Canada be handled and processed differently. Reality on the ground has changed since that law was passed and altering or repealing it would change the way these kids are processed.

The plan being presented by Obama will cost 3.7 billion dollars to handle 52,000 children that have flooded to our southern border from countries like Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. When doing the math this amounts to over $71,000 each. More on why this is way to much in the article below.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/children-at-our-border-72000-each...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:13 | 5062470 newworldorder
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Our dear leader is indeed the "Manchurian" who slipped in with the help of brain dead and perpetual "white guilt" American voters.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:47 | 5061609 1stepcloser
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What are they worried about?  Welfare still gonna get paid yo!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:54 | 5062006 kaiserhoff
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Sure it will.  Just like the klepto pensions, in Juden confetti.

Enjoy your alpo.  Woof!

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:18 | 5061637 Lin S
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Barbarian savages, invader-parasites.  Period.  They will keep coming (and coming, and coming...) until they are driven out by force (and their corporate benefactors impaled on stakes or hung with piano wire).

But I doubt that will ever happen.

Our future will be a foul admixture of 1984 and Camp of the Saints.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 16:57 | 5067460 MeelionDollerBogus
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What do you think the Indians said when all the invaders took their land?

http://youtu.be/knHE31FtJww

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:53 | 5061641 barbarika
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Can someone please remind me, what percentage of Americans opposed bank bailout in 2008, and if it mattered.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:06 | 5061716 NOTaREALmerican
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What percentage believed Alan Greenspan when he said the banks were self-regulating?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:15 | 5061772 Peak Finance
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It was a HUGE percentage, and if you remember the first bailout vote actually failed. The phone lines were burining with people telling the bankers to fuck off.

The second vote passed anyway, against a lot of peoples wishes, who knows what happened, bribes, threats, nailguns, we will never find out for sure. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:20 | 5061794 Bastiat
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Something like 85%, if memory serves.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:51 | 5062343 JimS
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In my state, North Dakota, it ran 99-1 against the bailout in our Congress offices. They still voted the way Paulson wanted. He was holding an economic gun to their heads. Paulson was out of Golden Sack. It is conjecture to say what would have happened if the "bailouts" weren't passed, but we all know that tiny group of people financially raped this country, without mercy This group is in control of the Federal Reserve. This is the same group that was given control of defining, creating and regulating our nation's money system in 1913. That worked out well, huh? Read "The Lost Science Of Money" and it is clear how it was done, just like Paulson did to us in 2008!!! We are so fucked.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:54 | 5061644 SWCroaker
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For most reading this, if they go back far enough, they'll reach a point in the family tree where their immediate relatives were "immigrants".  The "legality" of the process throughout the ages has varied from enforced to "whatever"; but by and large one constant has been the *lack* of weight given to the thoughts and fears of those already in the country.     Ask the Indians (if you can find one) about it.

If I lived in a shithole, and knew of a better life elsewhere, I'd be tempted to relocate.  Wouldn't we all?

 

 

What grates, as an in-country "citizen", is being subjected to a different set of treatment than those just over the river or off the boat.  Different rules entirely regarding taxation, enforcement of laws by the police, dual modes of operation by our Justice system, free goodies, aid and things given to one group, something entirely different for the other, hospitals who are forced to give free care to one group but not the other.   Unequal treatment mandated by the government sux.   No one group has all nice things, but my ability to tolerate being shit on goes way up when everyone else around me gets shat upon as well...

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:39 | 5061922 Catullus
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The difference between some teenager from el salavdor crossing into south texas and an italian in 1920 entering NY harbor via staten island is the Welfare State. Many generations of immigrants have come to the US and they've made something for themselves.

These people crossing the boarder now are looking for a handout.  And with that handout will come the chains. They're walking into slavery. They'll become a permanent underclass is US society.  They're the unwashed mob.

And for the grip and grins in washington, they're viewed as a way to stay in power.  They're a new voting bloc to be fed the bullshit line.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:26 | 5062923 Central Bankster
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What better way to destroy a "culture" than from within.  Between the grinding gears of corporate fascism, socialism, inflation and cultural suicide, the middle class is being destroyed.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:54 | 5061652 SelfGov
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All this bluster is alarmism pure and simple.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:55 | 5061654 Bastiat
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I still think the political purpose of this is to provoke a hostile reaction, in turn bringing out the Latin vote for the democrats in November.  Otherwise they are screwed and they know it.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:55 | 5061655 Miffed Microbio...
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What parent in their right mind would send a toddler across the border? A chance for a better life for the child or for possibly the parents? This is child abuse.

As a parent I cannot fathom doing this to my children under any circumstances. I'd like to hear from the parents why they did this and what are the real motivations surrounding this tragedy.

Miffed;-)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:24 | 5062190 acetinker
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Miffed,

I was 4 when I ran away from kindergarten- not kidding.  I didn't ask for permission or tell anyone of my plans.  I imagine a lot of these kids did the same.

Oh, and btw, i was not surprisingly unsuccessful in my youthful ambition, and have yet to outgrow my contempt for authority figures.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:43 | 5062643 Miffed Microbio...
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Well, I did the same at that age. I packed my favorite things in my red wagon and told my parents to shove it and took off down Filmore st in San Francisco. My hope was to live in golden gate park. Unfortunately I got lost in lower Haight and a lady brought me home. My parents thought it was quite funny and were a little surprised I got so far. Today they would have been imprisoned for child endangerment. I'm still a bit mystified why I am still alive after all the stupid shit I have done all my life.

Miffed;-)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 23:43 | 5063313 acetinker
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Do you really think you were stupid?  No Ma'am, you were asserting yourself.  I am proud of you!

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 16:13 | 5067267 MeelionDollerBogus
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If drug cartel gang-rape & murder were a higher chance by staying at home then what else can you do? Just sit down at home & wait to be put to death, probably by torture & rape? They're leaving for a reason.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:58 | 5061668 Elliptico
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They want out women, dammit, and theirs are all hairy and shit.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:01 | 5061686 atomicwasted
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We must have the weakest, least robust way of life on the planet, if 60,000 child refugees are going to threaten the way of life of the 300,000,000 of us that are already here.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:08 | 5061725 NOTaREALmerican
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How many are ACTUALLY tur-bine a-wear-n muz-lims tho?   Huh?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:29 | 5061822 Nevsky
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- a large number, in not most, of the illegals coming over are not just children.

- some of these "children" are in their 20s.

- they are actively recruited by Drug Cartels and gangs in the immigration centers

- a large number or rapists, kidnappers, murderers and regular criminals flooding over while the DHS is babysitting. (not to mention that terrorist are taking advantage of it also)

Please spare us the "it's-for-the-children" propaganda.

 

P.S.: and of course war criminals, just like any other criminals will take advantage, of 'let-the-children-in'

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:19 | 5062160 Oldwood
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Like always statist see all statistics as purely numbers. When YOUR job is lost because of an illegal, when your kid can't find even the most basic job, then maybe these numbers will mean something. This mess has been fucking Americans for thirty years at least and nobody gives a fuck until THEY are touched by it. Keep buying your imported shit and hiring illegals to build your home. This constant drain on our economy on our employment, will eventually kick you where you won't be able to ignore it anymore. Your generosity with other American's lively hood and lives in general is apauling. Move to central America and do your good works but don't drag the rest of us with you. Make this your choice, not everyone elses.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:05 | 5062427 newworldorder
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Excellent reply. Many trolls on this posting tonite.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 16:04 | 5067213 MeelionDollerBogus
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Poor reply: both your message & what you replied to are in fact the trolling.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 16:03 | 5067203 MeelionDollerBogus
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Your job is lost because it's in INDIA OR CHINA.
No Mexican "illegal" immigrant is stealing your job unless your job is collecting cans at the side of the road or a little landscaping part-time. You couldn't even pay rent with that money.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:01 | 5061689 johnconnor
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and the 30% left were former illegal immigrants that became American citizens...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:06 | 5061708 Catullus
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How do we know they're crossing the boarder now and were not already in south texas?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:08 | 5061724 robnume
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Oh boy! More cannon fodder for the USSArmy! Letting all of this potential immigrant labor is TPTB's idea for driving our wages down even further, if that's possible. Yes, we need a moratorium on immigration, as most other countries have. If the USSA hadn't put all of these totalitarian governments in place in central and south america these kids wouldn't be here in the first place. Yeah, we've got one hell of a foreign policy team here, huh? And, no, it doesn't matter which party is in power inside the beltway. They're all crooks and liars.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:14 | 5061767 I am a Man I am...
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Republicans are full of shit, keep the Mexicans out except when I need my new mcmansion built, yard mowed, house cleaned, dead birds picked up, etc. etc. etc.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:50 | 5062348 LetsGetPhysical
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Have you been to San Francisco lately?  They sure love their Mexican slaves in SF. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:16 | 5061776 limacon
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Tecumseh agreed

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:17 | 5061782 Peter Pan
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70% of Americans think that illegal immigrants threaten way of life.
The other 30% are illegal immigrants.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:37 | 5061905 Peter Pan
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My apologies to Knuckles. I just read his comment. Another great mind. lol.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:24 | 5061800 Dingleberry
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I understand why filthy disgusting elite liberals want them here: eternal votes in return for eternal welfare dependency. I also understand that filthy, traitorous repubs want them here for cheap labor.  But the fact remains: as portrayed by the media, Obama and his posse are the ones pushing for amnesty, while the Repubs are being haters and raciss....

What I cannot seem to grasp is why do the blue collar, democrats want them here? Their neighborhoods, schools, etc. are the ones that will be threatened. Illegals tend to go where other middle to low income hoods are, and promptly increase crime and prison population, increase welfare, decrease wages, school quality, and other services. Hence Mayberry becomes a cesspool.

On top of that, as anyone who has lived in a racially mixed areas that contain both Hispanics and Blacks (e.g. the southwest, Texas), you know that Hispanics pretty much hate Blacks. So why would the most dependent of all liberals (Blacks) want them here?

Seriously, I cannot understand how a people can be so incredibly stupid and go against their own self-interest.  

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:34 | 5061886 NOTaREALmerican
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Good summary.   But, you forgot that politics exists for the higher evolved sociopaths of society to create believable bullshit for pathologically optimistic dumbasses who DESPERATELY need more bullshit to keep them optimistic about the future.   Hence the role of the Red and Blue Team.    Each creates high quality bullshit for their (R)etards and (D)umbasses who are optimistic a solution will eventually be found.

Bullshit, it builds a philosophy good.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:32 | 5062309 newworldorder
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Some potential answers:

- Blacks have veen convinced by their "Leadership" that brown skin is the new black skin.

- White skin is the perpetual enemy. (They will try to keep you down.)

- The Democratic party has your interest at heart. Keep voting the big D party, at mind control numbers.

Never mind the facts that;

- Black unemployment is 20+%.

- To start with, 5 million illegals will be given work permits to take any job in America, legally.How many black unemployed people will they displace?

- Illegal Hispanic border crosses are not "minorities" but racially considered to be white. (If that does not register, nothing will.)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:45 | 5062315 Jackagain
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A perfect strategy by the DemocRATS....the ones that get through will vote Democrat. If Republicans stop others from getting here all Latinos here will heap their voter rath on Republicans forever. Brilliant...and they know that Latinos breed faster than any other demographic in the country.

 

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 15:58 | 5067167 MeelionDollerBogus
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You still believe the majority of voters are not DIEBOLD? Wow, a sucker is born every minute.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:23 | 5061813 meandmy1911
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my buddy came up from San Diego last week. He got stopped at that checkpoint just north of the border. The Border Patrol asked if he had any illegals in the vehicle. My buddy replied, "Would it really fucking matter if I did?" The border patrol just kind of chuckled and said "proably not"  and sent him on his way. fucking joke.....

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:28 | 5061839 Lordflin
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From an historical perspective any society that has lost control of its borders has ceased to exist.

I am not certain there is much historical perspective to draw upon in current circumstances.

But as much as it appears problematic to me to allow in a host of folks unfamiliar with a free society, and as a consequence detract from what effort exists to educate the ones who are already here, it seems to me we are well beyond such concerns.

Perhaps after we reset, if we do reset, we can take a more serious look at who is living where. But circumstances are moving at such a pace that I believe that to argue that illegal immigration is bringing our society down is at best disingenuous. Nor do I believe the means exist for a reversal of our current course. We are all aboard for the ride and none of us are getting off.

Never thought I would see things this way. I use to be fervently opposed to illegal immigration for a multitude of reasons including my opening statement. For that matter I am still opposed, just not certain how relevant it is.

Would be nice to keep the gang bangers out though.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:16 | 5062483 Kreditanstalt
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"...any society that has lost control of its borders has ceased to exist."

But it's not a "society"...it's a government.  An evil one, whatever "party" is in control.  If this helps tear it down, let's applaud it!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:37 | 5062610 JimS
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Amen, brother.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:38 | 5062947 Central Bankster
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Ok, its well written and thought out, and I don't competely disagree with your post, but I can't help but feel like you're presenting some fairly defeatist arguments:

 

 

a) But hey, maybe this time is different, right? 

b) Let's gamble on it and see what happens. 

c)  Atleast we're all fucked together?

 

One thing I will disagree with you on however, is that I DO infact believe illegal immigration hurts the US economy on the margins.  In totality, I agree, we have bigger fish to fry, however.

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:29 | 5061844 robertocarlos
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They are wrong. After I move to illegal friendly California this winter my intention is to join the LA Kings and help win a third straight Cup. They need a new D man.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:31 | 5061863 Bemused Observer
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This is what happens when you try to forceably homogenize people. Rather than all joining hands and singing Kumbaya, you get increased xenophobia and mistrust. Then you get violence. Europe has seen a goodly amount of 'Paki-bashing' type incidents, and their skinheads run in packs like all dogs do.

We're going to start seeing shit like that here, mark my words...and it's a God damned shame, because the real enemy isn't the immigrant, it is TPTB who create a world where folks HAVE to migrate 'somewhere better'.

Don't blame the immigrant...he's actually demonstrating an admirable instinct for self-preservation and advancement. He's not sitting on his ass waiting for his gubmint check, he got up and LEFT in search of something better. This guy isn't a taker, he's a maker in search of a place that appreciates him. These are qualities we need.
Blame TPTB for the unfortunate circumstances under which we have to meet these folks.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:46 | 5063020 Central Bankster
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I get what you're trying to say.  But we wouldn't argue that a cat is hard working if it shows up at your doorstep expecting milk now would we?  The truth is that the reality lies somewhere in between my analogy and your very generous description of these immigrants.  The real question is the COST of assimilating these people, and who will pay it.  As it stands currently, it will be the middle class adults who are currently employed and/or those who have savings (currently being eaten away by deficit induced inflation).  These are REAL costs.  Where is the morality in that?

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