Did The Creator Of The Experimental Ebola Drug Joke About Culling 25% Of The World's Population?

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Charles Arntzen is the Regents' Professor and Florence Ely Nelson Presidential Chair of the Biodesign Institute at Arizona State University. Dr. Arntzen is known as a pioneer in the development of edible plant-based vaccines, and he has also been a key collaborator on what appears to be a promising new Ebola drug.

The Washington Post recently reported that:

It took nearly three decades of tireless research and countless millions of U.S. government dollars to produce a few grams of the experimental Ebola drug that may have saved the lives of two U.S. missionaries stricken by the virus in West Africa.


And now some are asking this question: If the drug did help missionaries Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol, whose conditions appear to be improving, could the same drug be given to the hundreds of people dying of Ebola in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Nigeria?


What would it cost? What are the ethics of distributing a drug that had never been tested on humans in foreign countries - even if medical authorities could persuade people to take it? And how fast could it be done?


"Two months," said Charles J. Arntzen, a professor at the Biodesign Institute at Arizona State University, who has collaborated for the past 15 years with Mapp Biopharmaceutical, the small San Diego company that produced the experimental serum given to the two Americans. "Maybe they could do it in a month. If they were [already] planning on it, I'm sure they could produce 10,000 doses in a month."


Anthony S. Fauci, director of the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, was more cautious in an interview on CNN on Tuesday. "It is not easy to make this serum," he said. "The number of doses that are available right now, today... is less than a handful.

Two months, or maybe even one month! Wow, this certainly seems like a miracle, right? The only problem is this guy is kind of creepy. In fact, he was apparently caught in 2012 joking about culling 25% of the world’s population to solve the challenging problem of feeding 8 billion people.

It was all caught on video:

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jcaz's picture

Make it 30%, just to be safe....

Vampyroteuthis infernalis's picture

Another educated idiot. Let's ship them all to W. Africa and lock them in a slum where the hottest Ebola spot is. Please include Bernanke and Yellen on the one way trip.

svayambhu108's picture

Hate, can bring two people great distances just to kill each other, so its not population density...

Stackers's picture

sounds like a good idea. We can start with all Regent Professors, Economist and Central Bankers

Anusocracy's picture

Apparently banning DDT didn't do a good enough job.

Only scored a minus 110 million.

Headbanger's picture

What else can we expect from somebody funded by Bill Gates?

max2205's picture

I got a great idea...put it in contrails....that'll do the trick

Why am I bleeding out of my eye balls?

zerozulu's picture

25%, does it mean all those people who have no buying power but still eat?

Anusocracy's picture


Rachel Carson sounded the initial alarm against DDT, but represented the science of DDT erroneously in her 1962 book Silent Spring. Carson wrote "Dr. DeWitt's now classic experiments [on quail and pheasants] have now established the fact that exposure to DDT, even when doing no observable harm to the birds, may seriously affect reproduction. Quail into whose diet DDT was introduced throughout the breeding season survived and even produced normal numbers of fertile eggs. But few of the eggs hatched." DeWitt's 1956 article (in Journal of Agriculture and Food Chemistry) actually yielded a very different conclusion. Quail were fed 200 parts per million of DDT in all of their food throughout the breeding season. DeWitt reports that 80% of their eggs hatched, compared with the "control"" birds which hatched 83.9% of their eggs. Carson also omitted mention of DeWitt's report that "control" pheasants hatched only 57 percent of their eggs, while those that were fed high levels of DDT in all of their food for an entire year hatched more than 80% of their eggs.

Population control advocates blamed DDT for increasing third world population. In the 1960s, World Health Organization authorities believed there was no alternative to the overpopulation problem but to assure than up to 40 percent of the children in poor nations would die of malaria. As an official of the Agency for International Development stated, "Rather dead than alive and riotously reproducing."

[Desowitz, RS. 1992. Malaria Capers, W.W. Norton & Company]

The environmental movement used DDT as a means to increase their power. Charles Wurster, chief scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund, commented, "If the environmentalists win on DDT, they will achieve a level of authority they have never had before.. In a sense, much more is at stake than DDT."

[Seattle Times, October 5, 1969]

Science journals were biased against DDT. Philip Abelson, editor of Science informed Dr. Thomas Jukes that Science would never publish any article on DDT that was not antagonistic.

William Ruckelshaus, the administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency who made the ultimate decision to ban DDT in 1972, was a member of the Environmental Defense Fund. Ruckelshaus solicited donations for EDF on his personal stationery that read "EDF's scientists blew the whistle on DDT by showing it to be a cancer hazard, and three years later, when the dust had cleared, EDF had won."

But as an assistant attorney general, William Ruckelshaus stated on August 31, 1970 in a U.S. Court of Appeals that "DDT has an amazing an exemplary record of safe use, does not cause a toxic response in man or other animals, and is not harmful. Carcinogenic claims regarding DDT are unproven speculation." But in a May 2, 1971 address to the Audubon Society, Ruckelshaus stated, "As a member of the Society, myself, I was highly suspicious of this compound, to put it mildly. But I was compelled by the facts to temper my emotions ... because the best scientific evidence available did not warrant such a precipitate action. However, we in the EPA have streamlined our administrative procedures so we can now suspend registration of DDT and the other persistent pesticides at any time during the period of review." Ruckelshaus later explained his ambivalence by stating that as assistant attorney general he was an advocate for the government, but as head of the EPA he was "a maker of policy."

[Barrons, 10 November 1975]

Environmental activists planned to defame scientists who defended DDT. In an uncontradicted deposition in a federal lawsuit, Victor Yannacone, a founder of the Environmental Defense Fund, testified that he attended a meeting in which Roland Clement of the Audubon Society and officials of the Environmental Defense Fund decided that University of California-Berkeley professor and DDT-supporter Thomas H. Jukes was to be muzzled by attacking his credibility.

[21st Century, Spring 1992]

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

This "Philip Abelson" sounds like a swell guy.  Kids are dying from malaria?  Who gives a damn (apparently).

nidaar's picture

De-population? Not a new idea at all. Here is a question: If a group controlling more than 25 % of world's resources, yet consisting of just 0.5 % of the world population is anxious about their future, what can they do? Either increase their headcount faster than the rest (which is much more difficult and takes a very long time which might not be enough), or they decrease the rest (which can be done instantenously and magnitudes of orders of cheaper).

Now, this group just need to find one or more ways to apply the second option, while minimizing the harm to members of itself. War is one of them. Diesease with a cure only for the group is another. It seems that both are being utilized more and more...

0b1knob's picture

Scientists in government have been openly taking for years about using Ebola to cull the population by up to 90% 

Agenda 21.   They don't even bother to hide their intentions.   If every Ebola patient infects 5 people before they die then we will all be dead by Thanksgiving.  Exponential growth is, well, exponential.

Its_the_economy_stupid's picture

Start w their MF'ing asses, the pricks. Who jokes about this shit?!

gold-is-not-dead's picture

When the civil unrest start happening across the states guys like this will be food and that's going to be  the most ethical part of the evolution.

Pumpkin's picture

Your comment is deplorable and disgusting!  You left out the politicians.

fleur de lis's picture

Shipping pseudo-intellectuals to the Ebola hot zone is a great idea. Can we please also throw in all the Federal Reservists, Congress, the media parrots, university dorks, Hollywood, and special interest groups and lobbies? 

power steering's picture

Damn and I just got licensed to import live fruit bats in bulk for resturant consumption

Larry Dallas's picture

Homeboy in the video has a point. Should place these folks in the middle east...

svayambhu108's picture

I'm not scared it is the century of unintended consequences ...

power steering's picture

"It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids, without the knowledge of the individual, certainly without any choice. That's the way a hard-core Commie works. "--Maj. Jack D. Ripper

zerozulu's picture

We need color coded warning system and lots of Duct tapes.

Alea Iactaest's picture

More like "bwa-ha-ha-ha" in your best Dr. Evil imitation. If true, however, this will probably make the USA a global pariah... Originator of EBV (or whatever it's called next), engineer of the global economic depression, and arrogant bully with a quick trigger finger.

Other countries will feel justified in heaping whatever shit they can on the USA. Did you ever feel smug watching UN troops running around some 3rd world country, secure in the knowledge they were keeping the world safe? Did you ever benefit from cheap oil? Did you ever enjoy the fruits of someone else's labor because of a global arbitrage that shipped jobs to the lowest-cost provider?

Guess what? Those days are quickly coming to an end. War crimes trials, at best, and occupation at worst. Scratch that, I'm sure there is way worse coming if this has any degree of truth.

Lost Word's picture

Ebola has spread to one person in Saudi Arabia ...

Spain is planning to bring a Spanish Ebola patient back from Africa to Spain ...

following American stupidity.


Divided States of America's picture

Yet another promising drug by TKMR which has already been doing human trials has been put on hold RIGHT before the outbreak because the Dept of Defense says so...load of crap

junction's picture

Typical New World Order beliefs, not different in large part from the ISIS murderers in Iraq: Follow our belief system or die.

Lost Word's picture

Especially since CIA & Mossad are the founders and funders of ISIS,

supposedly, if you believe the internet alternate news media.

Seer's picture

Possible, but I don't think that it's necessarily relevant (other than in the "unintended consequences" category) because I believe that ISIS has a life of its own and is pretty much just a new wave of pushing out the old (empires).  People are quick to jump on a bandwagon that's running over the bastards of the day, but that bandwagon is, a bandwagon, and will, in time, be pretty indistinguishable from that it rolled over...

Dugald's picture


Ebola, nah lets call it SHIVA, Tom Clancy did.......

Dr. Venkman's picture

Probably went over better than those Roofie jokes I was telling at the bar last night.

LFMayor's picture

I like to use those at the "Save the Ta Ta's" 5k breast cancer awareness charity run walks, myself.


Meat Hammer's picture

Roofies have horrible side effects, including rectal soreness.

Did you tell that one at the party?

Dr. Engali's picture

I'm curious to see if he gets funding from the Gate's Foundation.

Winston Churchill's picture

Who says he was joking ?

Not like the Psychopaths That Be have hidden their agenda.

Jstanley011's picture

Eight years ago UT professor Eric Pianka was awarded the Distinguished Scientist Award from the Texas Academy of Science, and got a standing ovation from a packed room at the ceremony. For what? For advocating a 90% reduction of the human population on earth, that's what.

Now, the dude claims that all he's saying is that "shit happens," not that he and his ilk ought to do all they can to "make it happen."

I don't believe him.



Herd Redirection Committee's picture

He wasn't joking, but most in the room had to laugh it off, it was so demented.

The person filming audibly groans.

El Vaquero's picture

That's the thing, I think that shit is going to happen (not necessarily with ebola,) but I am content to let nature take its course.  If I am wrong, then I am wrong and nobody dies because of me.  If I am right, then after shit happens, you should consider my thoughts on the matter should you survive.  If I am right, the "transition" period is going to be unpredictable as hell, and trying to control it is pure hubris. 

Seer's picture

I agree.  In the mix, however, is going to be some significant wars, wars which will unleash the ugly side of humans (to add to the ugly suffering that'll come as a natural course).

Son of Captain Nemo's picture
"Did The Creator Of The Experimental Ebola Drug Joke About Culling 25% Of The World's Population?"...

Well what do you know???  AIPAC found it's replacement for the damaged goods called "Hillary Roddenbitch" in '16!

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Theres gonna be lots of food supply out of the EU.

NOTaREALmerican's picture

I bet that guy has some really entertaining blog posts too.

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Clear out 50% and that should take care of the rush traffic congestion!

Hook Line and Sphincter's picture

Charles Arntzen has inadvertently created his own personal 2 legged 'diebola' who will visit him when one of their loved ones is consumed by his frankenfellatio.

He better scrub that vid asap off the internet to avoid being force fed one of those tickets to the 25%.

Seer's picture

Think that ISIS would like to visit him?

Hook Line and Sphincter's picture

Yes Seer,

I think the subliminal of ISIS has already visited him...

Incidentally, ISIS numerological significance is as such: I=9 S=19 I=9 S+19 suggesting 911. Evidently, some of their sorcerors have mistaken the copying of fractals for sure fire cause and effect. 

ISIS suggests IRIS, also known as the 'EYE' - NLP archetype activation.

ISIS suggest ISIS, HORUS, SET. Invoking duality for fun and profit!