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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

In an unbelievable display of arrogance and self-importance, the Australian government recently announced the most sweeping changes to their national security legislation since 9/11.

The new laws will give the Australian government more powers to monitor all types of communication, both phone and internet.

What’s more, telecom companies will be required to store searchable metadata of all activity for two years, enabling the authorities to access details of every phone call made and every website visited.

Powers for “extended detention” and ‘preventative detention’, (pre-crime) have also been extended.

I’m sure it makes you feel better knowing that you could be preventively detained without actually committing any crime—you know, just in case…

It will also become a crime now to travel to a country where terrorists are ‘conducting hostile activities’ unless you have a ‘legitimate excuse’.

Just how these travel bans will be decided upon is unclear. Is Ukraine off limits? Spain? Northern Ireland? Thailand? Russia?

All of this is supposedly necessary because, according to the government, there are 125 Australian citizens currently part of terrorist groups overseas.

Even if correct, 125 people represent 0.0005% of the population of Australia. So for 125 people, the other 24+ million must be subjected to a Big Brother police state.

It all makes even less sense when your read the official justifications for it. Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott said that:

We are under a lot of budget pressure at the moment, but the community won’t thank us if we skimp unreasonably on national security.

Ironically, he admits they don’t have the money for it. But they’re going to come up with an ADDITIONAL $630 million (a significant amount of money in Australia) to boost domestic spying and police state programs… all for 125 people.

But the prize for the dumbest comment you’ll hear this week goes to another pearl of wisdom from the Australian Prime Minister:

“The terrorist threat in this country has not changed, nevertheless it’s as high as it’s ever been.”

Now, as a native English speaker, I’m not entirely sure what he’s trying to tell me.

The government didn’t spend this money last year, and nothing happened.

But now since, according to the PM, nothing has changed, suddenly the government has to spend an additional $630 million to terrorize and spy on citizens.

What a brilliant piece of logic wrapped up in political Newspeak.

Basically they’re telling everyone that they should just be afraid… and that the government must spy on citizens in order to protect them.

This is how it always happens… and we can watch yet another country slide rapidly into a police state.

 

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Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:33 | 5060615 Duffminster
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This is simply Orwellian.  I don't picture the Aussies being this down on Freedom.  WTF?  The news is very skewed.

Ukraine is important but in my opinion its the credit markets that are the biggest concern and I imagine to BIS the ECB and Fed as well, that is if they are thinking clearly and looking at the Data.  The problems are many and interconnected.  There is virtually no relative dealer liquidity in the high yield US bond markets and across the full spectrum of corporate debt there is a very large bubble.  This implies problems with stock markets as they are closely correlated.  The obvious slowing if the EU economies as a whole is exacerbated by the conflict with the Ukraine.  Geopolitically, the destabilization of the Middle East by ISIS, now having taken Iraq's largest supply of water and hydro electricity at Mosul is a further destabilizing factor.  Yet, even with all this, I put the greatest risk to financial markets squarely in China's domain. 

It is the combination of the extremely high degree of opaqueness, secretiveness and shadow banking that underlies its global leadership in borrowing money that is at the root of this view.  I've compiled a number of different articles that serve as the basis of this view.

"China's $343 Billion in the Shadows"
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-08-07/china-s-343-billion-in-...
China's "trust companies" are a growth industry, notable not for imparting stability to the $9.2 trillion economy, but for the
red flags they raise. One figure stands out: the $343 billion these nonbank lenders owe in interest and principal repayments this quarter alone.

This topic may not sound very exciting to those far removed from the mechanics of China Inc. and President Xi Jinping's efforts to rein in credit and investment bubbles. But these nonbank lenders are at the core of the shadow-banking industry that makes China's financial system both opaque and fragile. The greater the repayment requirements, the greater the risk of a miss and the turmoil that might follow.

"China Default Storm Seen as Record Private Bonds Mature"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-05/default-storm-seen-as-record-pr...
"...Premier Li Keqiang has sought to expand financing for small companies, which account for 70 percent of China’s economy, as expansion is set to cool to the slowest since 1990 at 7.4 percent this year, according to a Bloomberg survey. ..."

"...“The current risks exposed in the private-bond market are
probably a prelude to a storm,” said Sun Binbin, a Shanghai-based bond analyst at China Merchants. “There’s been
improvement in only some sectors of the economy, not in all.” ..."

"China Inc borrows $14 trillion, overtakes U.S. as top corporate borrower: S&P"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/16/us-china-debt-idUSKBN0ER0YH201...
"...The Chinese corporate bond market has overtaken the United States as the world's biggest and is set to soak up a third of global company debt needs over the next five years, according to rating agency Standard & Poor's,  underscoring the growing risk China's debt market is imposing on the global financial system. ..."

"...The Asia-Pacific region, led by China, is seen accounting for half of global corporate debt financing needs of $60 trillion over the five-year period to 2018 when the region will account for more than half the projected total debt outstanding of $72 trillion.

China, the world's second-largest economy is currently financing a quarter to a third of its corporate debt through its shadow banking sector and this had global implications, S&P said.

"This means that as much as 10 percent of global corporate debt is exposed to the risk of a contraction in China's informal banking sector," the agency said, estimating this at $4 trillion to $5 trillion. "With China's economy likely to grow at a nominal 10 percent per year over the next five years, this amount can only increase."

Cash flows and leverage at Chinese corporations are the worst among global peers, having deteriorated from being the best in 2009, according to a corporate financial risk trend measure used by Standard & Poor's...."

"China, the Death Star of Emerging Markets"
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-02-06/china-the-death-star-of...

"...On any list of banking accidents waiting to happen, China is assured a place at the very top. But could a crash there take the entire global economy down with it?
Absolutely, says Charlene Chu, who until recently was Fitch's headline-generating analyst in Beijing. Chu has fearlessly trod into an area that China is trying desperately to keep off limits: its vast shadow-banking system. Now that she's working for a private firm that doesn't have to rely to governments for revenue, as do rating companies, Chu is free to speak completely openly. And is she ever. 

"The banking sector has extended $14 trillion to $15 trillion in the span of five years," Chu, who is now with Autonomous Research, told the Telegraph. "There’s no way that we are not going to have massive problems in China." What's more, she added, China "could trigger global meltdown." ..."

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:37 | 5060661 SteveNYC
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Long since a US vassal state. Unfortunate.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:53 | 5060687 Save_America1st
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can't travel to countries with terrorist activities?  Wow, well there sure won't be any Aussies coming to America ever again then.  With our very own terrorist government allowing terrorists to flood over the borders and terrorist police agencies roaming the streets terrorizing citizens and terrorist street gangs all over the place running wild and terrorist TSA scumbags power-tripping all over everybody in the airports and our CDC terrorising the country with it's new Ebola toys and our terrorist DHS arming up to fight the "so-called" domestic terrorist patriot groups and veterans, well fuck...America must be the biggest terrorist nation in the fucking universe right now. 

No wonder we haven't been invaded by hostile space aliens yet...they're probably too terrorised by all the terrorism going on on this freakin' planet and don't want to fuck with us!

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:58 | 5060784 Manthong
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I spent some absolutely great time in Tazzie, Melborne, Sidney. Brisbane and out to Paradise (aslo known as Hayman)  Also spent some fabulous time North and South Islands NZ.

I wish I did not have to scratch them off the list of places I would consider getting planted in because they are so detrimentally socialist and I would not be able to bring my collection there.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:05 | 5060827 Serfs Up
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Tony Abbott is dullest marble in the bag.

When all this blows, we'll need rotary lamposts to handle the volume.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:32 | 5060978 stacking12321
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here's an important australian government spokesman to clarify the situation (latest clark & dawe):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZkNPiGF0s

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:04 | 5062078 butchtrucks
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The quality of political leadership in Australia is abysmal.

Check out the country's Attorney General George Brandis in an interview last night about the Government's Orwellian plans to monitor everyone's internet activity. The most embarrassing interview you are ever likely to see. Completely clueless. Jibbering fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUNxYdq_ynk

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 13:07 | 5065981 Socratic Dog
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In a democracy, the quality of political leadership is determined by the quality of the electorate.  You get the leadership you deserve.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:44 | 5062655 Clifftastic
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Dont scratch us in NZ off your list - we hate Aussies!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:20 | 5062167 monkeyboy
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AUSTRALIA - Welcome to the world's biggest nanny state, now soon to be the world's biggest Orwellian state(per capita ;)

 

If you want to hear the fuckhead who's meant to be explaining the implementation of this shitty, big brother, authoritarian move by the current government.

Listen to this stuttering, bumbling , lying nutjob George Brandis -

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/george-brandis-metadata-intervi...

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/george-brandis-in-c...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:24 | 5062903 omniversling
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Upvote, thanks for the links. The wheels are coming off the cart of lies...that's why he can't answer, because he's deliberately attempting to defuse by deception. It's called lying.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:27 | 5062398 omniversling
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The 'blue, red and white' flagged nations seem to have a cozy thing going on...5-Eyes, and since MH-17 the Netherlands (European axis), and Malaysia (Asian axis) have joined the party. I see the corralling of the sheople into a tighter and tighter pen. This plan has been in play for many decades, Australia having gravitated toward the US from British Empire after WW2. 

 Shortly after this was announced a private schoolbus carrying Jewish schoolchildren was 'invaded' by ostensibly '6 anti-semitic drunks', which resulted in sympathy press cycle for those underwriting the Zionist slaughter in Gaza. Reeks of timely headfake...eg, why did the driver allow access to a private bus. I have no truck with anyone exploiting children for propaganda (what people do after reaching the age of legal responsibility for their actions - or inactions - is another thing), but to use this as a foil to the upscale murder of Palestinian children stinks:

http://rt.com/news/178544-australia-anti-semitic-attack/

Prior to Abbot (blue team called Liberal Party but 'conservative' agenda), was the Rudd/Gillard uncomedy act (red team called Labour Party with 'liberal/soft-socialist' agenda) who followed Johnny Howard, who just happened to be in Washington at the time of 911, and was one of the first 'coalition of the willing' to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing).

Australians have fought in every major conflict under Brit or US command since the 19C (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Australia) and more recently under UN command as 'peacekeepers' (inception of Global Army, NATO like, operating in any jurisdiction, like any supra-national corporation).

Generally Aussies have a reputation as good fighters, and it's easy to 'get into trouble' any night of the week at most pubs, if that's your thing, but few have the background, stomach or knowledge (of what's going down in the world 'in our name') to re-form the political process toward less .gov control without revolutionary violence. Our Westminster-based 'parliamentary democracy' is by it's design combative. The process has become so dirty over the past 3 decades that many Aussies have just dumped it, disgusted at the corruption of the institution, and low level gutter sniping. We are 'obliged' to vote at Federal and State elections, with a $50 fine for not doing so. There are plenty of good thinkers and 'awakeners', but very dispersed and now known to be subject to 5-Eyes surveilence, so any comms between activists are eavesdropped.

The red-herring in this batch of legislation is that it 'officialises' what is already going on via 'data and intel sharing arrangements' between the other 5-Eyes 'countries', where each spy on eachothers citizens and 'share it back with the partners'.

More info here (good forum website for matters Australian): http://theconversation.com/government-retreats-on-weakening-race-act-adv...

There are few protections of civil rights in our constitution, which is itself Section 9 of the British Parliament's "Act to Constitute the Commonwealth of Australia (UK)1900 ( http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/63-64/12 ), and we have no Bill of Rights. Part of the 'endgame' rollout of the 'for our own good', 'BigGov' is best', even if it's illegitimate. Just put another prawn on the Barbie, and turn on the footy. As Aussie combativeness is ritualised and expressed through the institutionalised national sports, I almost gagged when Abbot appealed to 'Team Australia' spirit, then remembered the timeless 'Team America'...FCK YEAH! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOEIruwzf54

Tony Abbott: “In the end, leadership is about preserving national unity on the essentials and that is why I have taken this decision. When it comes to counter-terrorism, everyone needs to be part of Team Australia.” ("you're either with us or you're with the enemy" - GW Bush). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-23kmhc3P8U

 'Team Australia's' facade as a global player, attempting to punch far above our weight for the Globalist Agenda by beta testing plans like 'Carbon Tax', and participating in post-911 crypto-fascism and badly staged 'International Incidents' is most disgustingly expressed in the slavish and contemptible pandering to the US/Israeli/Neo-con agenda. Over and over and over again.

It appears a criminal cabal has hijacked what was left of 'the age of Aussie Innocence', and corrupted us with off-shore war. Our entire political and legal system may well be bogus, but only marginally more obviously so than the constructs of many countries, US included, that now have 'Corporations' masquerading as 'government of the people for the people', which impose a jurisdiction between the natural born individual and the Creator. Ironic that 'the Second Australians' are now experiencing a theft parallel to what 'the First Australians' suffered over 200 years ago. A very well hatched and executed agenda, backed by corporate .gov monopoly on legalised violence (Police Force becoming Policy Enforcers). When self-defense weapons are confiscated, the corral shrinks. … Good reading here:

Validation of Government Authority

 http://truth-now.net/

Australia: The Concealed Colony:

http://basic-fraud.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2010/09/Australia%20...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13086557/Australia-concealed-Colony-Treasonous...

http://www.basicfraud.com/

Peace

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:42 | 5060690 DoChenRollingBearing
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This article states what I have heard lately about Australia: that they are heading for Socialism and Agenda 21 even faster than the USA.

Australia may not be a good Plan B country for Americans.  Keep looking, keep preparing, keep thinking.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:50 | 5060738 Bastiat
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When gun control went through in Oz, it was well on its way to being over.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:10 | 5060858 Manthong
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The totalitarian sociallists completely spooked them with that school shooting in Hobart.. a crazy with an AR.

With their roots, you might think they would know better. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:34 | 5060995 stacking12321
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i am all in favor of keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous government employees

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:57 | 5060781 Save_America1st
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So why did Australia do this recently?  Are they going to come up with something even more sinister next time???  Seemed like a great move in the right direction to me when I read about it.

Australia's carbon tax is gone:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/17/australias-carbon-tax-is-gone-a-selection-of-the-cheers-jeers-and-fears

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:56 | 5062023 The_Prisoner
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Of course there is some deception behind it.

They scrapped the carbon tax, and will instead implement a emissions trading scheme. So Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan can make money of it.

You can take it to the 'proverbial' bank.

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:18 | 5060903 Kirk2NCC1701
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They are part of the Zio-controlled Anglo - American Alliance, a group called Five Eyes: US, UK, Canada, Australia and New-Zealand.

They used to teach in Canadian schools that Manifest Destiny was just an American thing.

But now, thanks to a global network of Zio-Banksters and Ploticians, it went Global: Manifest Destiny 2.0

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:50 | 5061074 shovel ready
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I am an Aussie. I have lived all over this country.

The government here takes itself more seriously than the people do. Most Aussies think that most politicians are dickheads and don't take them too seriously. There are a lot of sheltered bureaucrats that know that the rest of Australia would love to put down the bottom of a deep hole.

The bureacracy here though is starting to get some teeth and it is increasingly more difficult to tell a bureaucrat he is a dickhead and should just fuck off.

I have traditionally been a Liberal party voter (currently in power), but the party that is in power at the moment are very bad, but the alternative (the Labor party) would be worse at the moment.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:19 | 5061371 FeralSerf
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Maybe if you took those fascist motherfuckers in Melbourne a bit more seriously you wouldn't have had the false flag terror operation in Port Arthur and have all your guns confiscated.

If Aussies don't restrain these power mad scum, you will just be examples of the indigent sheep, only allowed to live for your mutton and wool production.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticu...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:44 | 5061590 shovel ready
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I hear you, but you can't think of Australian culture in strictly US or European terms. US and EU take their politics MUCH more seriously and are MUCH more passionate.

We generally don't give a fuck - because we KNOW that they are essentially all lying wankers that just want to line their own pockets, but if we got rid of them the vacuum would just be filled with more like them.

So in the end they don't have the kind of power that they have in the US, because nobody takes them that seriously - they are wankers - they know that fundamentally we believe this.

Is this a double-edged sword - maybe - time will tell - certainly it can't hurt to try something different from what is clearly failing the Americans and Europeans.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:59 | 5061679 Socratic Dog
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It's not much use not taking them seriously if you have no teeth.  And we let the fuckers pull our teeth, in fact we begged them to.

Would not taking Hitler seriously have helped the german commo's/homo's/gypsies/jews/whatevers?  I sorta doubt it.  Unless they'd had a shitload of guns, ie teeth.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:27 | 5061825 UselessEater
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This is the problem, Aussies don't care like Ostrich's. I've given up warning people ..... An Aussie neighbour summed it up - "he's old so it his kids problem". The stupidity of ignoring and not caring what's happening escapes people - being quite socialist in nature little alarms most Aussies.

NZ is as bad.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:25 | 5062195 shovel ready
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Alas, I think this is increasingly the case.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:23 | 5062186 shovel ready
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It was because people took Hitler seriously that he ever had any power at all.

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:46 | 5061962 The_Prisoner
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Shovel, I get where you're coming from. The labour polies were largely inept and corrupt.

But the current Liberal cabinet are dowright fascist. I'm all for dismantling the welfare state, but corporate welfare has to be dismantled first.

They pay lip service to being the Party of Individual freedom and achievement whilst pandering to corporations.

Let me point out a few of the measures they implanted so far:

- Change to privacy laws: Banks and credit card companies are now allowed to sell your data.

- Change to financial planning laws: Financial advisers are no longer obliged to disclose that they are getting commissions to flog you this plan over that plan.

- The previous Liberal government talked about the implementation of sedition laws and the national ID card.

- They took away the guns;

- Destroyed freedom of association under the guise of dismantling bike gangs.

- Aiding the US in escalating the conflict with Russia over MH17.

So instead os spousing one team over another team, just be aware it is a ratchet effect for the destruction of the individual.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:31 | 5062232 shovel ready
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You know... it is hard for me accept/admit it... that this could happen here... but I think you may well be right. The current Liberal cabinet might be truly fascist. (not just commiting the odd act that could be labelled 'fascist',but rather acting/being fascist in toto)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:07 | 5062441 The_Prisoner
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I know how it feels when that realisation hits home.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 13:12 | 5066013 Socratic Dog
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If you think it's just the current set of talking heads you don't have a grip on the problem.  I recommend more time on ZH.  Australia is a microcosm of what it happening in the US.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:43 | 5060842 rainingFrogs
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Not just a US vassal state, a blood-oath member of the five eyes - US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, UK. 

US is already a fascist state. 

Like Australia, Canada and the UK are busy passing anti-citizen legislation under the guise of "anti-terror" that trumps domestic consitutional rights. 

Canada illegally arrested more than 1,000 protestors exercising their constitutional rights to peaceful protest at a G20 meeting in Toronto in 2010.

New Zealand clearly violated the consitutional rights of Kim Dotcom when they took orders from the US to illegally arrest him and raid his estate. 

UK is muckety mucking with the MH17 black boxes to make sure all the incriminating evidence never sees the light of day

US, Australia, Canada and the UK are partners in feeding the military-industrial complex beast by underwriting the ginormously expensive, mission incapable, turkey F35 (not to malign turkeys)

The seamless alignment between these countries on "anti-terror", signals intelligence collection and exchange, foreign policy, Israel misdeeds is frightening. 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:33 | 5060624 Frank N. Beans
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Australia was my last hope.  Well maybe New Zealand.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:36 | 5060649 saints51
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First rule in my fight club is always a question. Can I legally have a gun with me at all times? If I can't , then this guy will not reside in that country.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:35 | 5060998 HoleInTheDonut
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Same here, and I don't even own a gun or plan to buy one.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:35 | 5061000 pods
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I would amend that with a caveat:

Do I have to prove that the government thinks it is okay for me to carry said weapon by showing each and every government clown my papers on command.

That kind of narrows the list to Mars.

pods

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:45 | 5061051 saints51
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I heard a horror story about someone arrested for concealed weapon without a license because his shirt was half way covering the gun. How true that story is, I do not know. In some of these extreme left states I would not doubt it.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:16 | 5061181 NotApplicable
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That's known as "brandishing." Which is considered damn near as serious as actually shooting someone in the eyes of the legal system.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:23 | 5061218 saints51
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All i can say is FUBAR. I never knew the term used. If thats what the prosecuters use against someone, well thats fucked up.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:02 | 5061390 FeralSerf
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Brandishing: the act of allowing a weapon that is illegally concealed to be illegally seen.

Where is George Orwell when you need him?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:18 | 5061791 UselessEater
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Gun control is going to be tightened. An Aust senate inquiry is taking submissions; they want to restrict and track weapons further and including electronic alarms on gun cabinets etc.

Walking around with a weapon? There are restrictions on transporting eg lock box in a boot. A guy was fined for leaving a gun in a car for 5 min to pop into a shop, his wife was in the car but did not possess a license.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:12 | 5062125 The_Prisoner
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What is painful to watch is how the vast majority of the population, specialy in the cities, is in favour of strict gun controls.

For the americans reading this: You know all that anti-gun propaganda you have in the US, al-la Michael Moore and others, that you think no one buys? Australians lap it up.

For that reason here both left and right politicians are anti-gun, so they can feel safer.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:37 | 5062986 NickVegas
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It's not gun control, the state apparatus always keeps all their guns under all these plans. 

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 13:49 | 5066287 FeralSerf
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Gun control means the livestock don't have guns but the herders do have guns.

Herders are greatly outnumbered by their livestock. Gun control is the way they maintain order and control.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:38 | 5060667 DeadFred
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Do they have a fiat based currency too? That will tell ya.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:37 | 5061278 koncaswatch
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Fred, I assume that was sarcasm as I don't think there is any PM backed currency in the world right. now. You'll have to put that desire on your "unattainable" bucket list.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:41 | 5061289 koncaswatch
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Fred, I assume that was sarcasm as I don't think there is any PM backed currency in the world right now. You'll have to put that desire on your "unattainable" bucket list.

damn, sorry for the double post.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:39 | 5060675 McMolotov
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If Yoda were here, he might say, "No, there is another." Unfortunately, he's currently being held at a CIA black site under suspicion of terrorism.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:46 | 5060715 MidwestJester
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Yeah, he couldn't come up with a legitimate excuse for visiting those ewok terrorists on Endor after the death star blew up...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:11 | 5060857 zerozulu
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You can keep your hopes. Simon wants every one to come to Chile  and buy land from him.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:23 | 5060929 Kirk2NCC1701
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Better than living in a vassal state of 5 Eyes.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:16 | 5060894 BolanosGhost
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Welcome to Alcatraz, bitchez!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:34 | 5060631 Bumbu Sauce
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Probably safer out in the wasteland serving Lord Humungous.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:34 | 5060637 JustObserving
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Here's The Dumbest Thing You'll Hear All Week

Obama spoke again?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:44 | 5060709 Winston Churchill
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Pretty stiff competition just today.

Nature deals with overpopulation, with ample food , by causing  stress, mental and

physical  diseases to bring the numbers down,

I wonder if its our turn.Certainly seems so.

That our leaders are displaying mental illness is a given, now a potential pandemic.

Cry havoc.....

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:55 | 5061099 Ms. Erable
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I'll reserve judgment on this until the end of the week. Bizzaro-world reveals astonishing, jaw-dropping, face-palming stupidity at a breakneck pace; I'd hate to deprive the next moronic state-sponsored edict to hit the news feeds of this week's title.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:10 | 5062458 omniversling
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Probably wont have to wait that long, and it's already Friday.

But all part of the plan anyways...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:35 | 5060639 Dr. Engali
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Quick, call homeland security, I saw a terrorist wearing an NRA hat buying a lemonaide off of a kid operating a stand with no permit in a gun free zone.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:36 | 5060657 LawsofPhysics
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...LOL..., yes, and both of them were armed...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:51 | 5060754 Bastiat
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. . .and the mother was carrying two tits full of raw milk!!!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:16 | 5060900 BolanosGhost
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Those need prompt TSA gropi- pat down!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:20 | 5060917 SteveNYC
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Comment of the day/week/month.....take your pick!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:26 | 5060938 Kirk2NCC1701
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Quick, relieve her of the incriminating milk!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:35 | 5060647 JamesH
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Just stop the 125 from returning to Australia. Job done. You can send me the fee of 10 % of the saving

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:36 | 5060652 pathetic looser
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there goes my dream .... whats left? south america?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:41 | 5060689 daemon
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" whats left? south america? "

Antarctica !

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:37 | 5060656 bugsmashers
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People get the government they deserve.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:39 | 5060677 DeadFred
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We are so doomed

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:11 | 5060863 Vampyroteuthis ...
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That is really scary too.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:05 | 5061144 Nexus789
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Rather a daft comment. People get a government that is imposed on them. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:18 | 5061198 NotApplicable
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The correct version is: Voters get the government they deserve. The rest get it imposed upon them.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:38 | 5060668 ptoemmes
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The week is not over yet....and then, of course there is next week, and the week after - ad dumbererest.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:39 | 5060674 Itchy and Scratchy
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"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither & lose both.' - Benjamin Franklin

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:52 | 5060758 disabledvet
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Don't recall the vote on all this actually.

What's the name of that "secret court" again?

And their "secret members"?

I mean what kind of judicial system sanctions "secret courts"? I don't recall that line item in the Constitution. "When in doubt...secret court it out!"

Anywho...forward in the name of freedom!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:21 | 5061206 NotApplicable
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Funny how he was all about the coup in Philadelphia masquerading as a constitutional convention, as well as being one of the earliest corporate welfare queens with his government printing contracts.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:43 | 5060685 Grande Tetons
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Yeah, I visit Porntube every 6 hours and have masking tape over the eye hole of my PC. Totally unrelated, I can assure you, officer. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:43 | 5060697 doctor10
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Pretty clear the Anglo Bankers all expect retribution from within at this point.

The way they're shutting down things internally in their countries is the exact same way that Stalin and Mao were forced to do so, and the NORK regime continues to do so, just to stay alive among their "fellowmen"

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:45 | 5060706 cougar_w
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V for Vendetta

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:46 | 5060712 Catullus
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There should be a disclosure as a preface to all articles about government ridiculousness and Australia. Like just start the title "Australia:" and I'll know to just not try to bother taking it seriously.

Omg, the government is going to charge me for not voting? Oh. It's Australia. Ha. Losers.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:48 | 5060730 stant
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Down over

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:51 | 5060746 kchrisc
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"It will also become a crime now to travel to a country where terrorists are ‘conducting hostile activities’ unless you have a ‘legitimate excuse’." Australians won't be able to travel to the DC US?!

While I appreciate the article, I find humorous the application of logic to the pol's and crat's actions--The only logic is money and power, control, as always.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:56 | 5060769 TomGa
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Well, Australia started as a penal colony.  So one shouldn't be too surprised that they're just getting back to their roots by eliminating freedom and liberty. Probably should go ahead and simply incarcerate everyone and be done with it.

 

/sarc off

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:57 | 5060776 Seasmoke
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What would you expect on an island started with criminals.

/S.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:49 | 5063053 omniversling
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...errr, colonised as penal settlement. Distinction? There were people on this island for at least 40,000 years before Cook planted the Union (combined crosses of England and Scotland 1606) flag on Bedanug  (Possession Island) in 1770 and claimed the the Land 'Terra Nulius' (Land belonging to nobody) for the 'Crown', even though his own journal reports signs of occupation. http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/possession-island/culture.html TERRA NULLIUS, THE HIGH COURT AND SURVEYORS http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/publication/misc/anthology/article/arti...
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:59 | 5060792 rosiescenario
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"Even if correct, 125 people represent 0.0005% of the population of Australia. So for 125 people, the other 24+ million must be subjected to a Big Brother police state."

 

....and in this fashion the terrorists win, aided and abetted by the politicos....just like here in the U.S.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:00 | 5060799 FiatFapper
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How do they track dynamic IP's?

I turn off my router each night and it resets to a new IP the next day. When i contacted my ISP, he told me i should leave my router on 24/7, so i can get faster speeds...yeah right!?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:10 | 5061407 SHRAGS
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Simple, they will be given access to the ISP account:IP map databse.  Mapping two items is the basis of TCP/IP. Trivial to track chains of maps in software.  Rebooting your router every couple of hours may slow this process down by a couple of millisecond.  They have the internet by the balls once they have access to the backbone.  TOR is one of the few technologies that seems to cause them problems as it breaks the chain, hence the "TOR stinks" NSA slides from the Snowden files.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:00 | 5060801 Cannon Fodder
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The increasing limitations on travel is really bothersome to me... it's one thing to make laws I have to abide by in a home country, but once you leave those borders, why should anyone ever be able to tell you where you can or can't travel??? That really is slavery....What if I want to go interview one of those people label as terrorist and learn for my self (yes at my own risk)... or want to go volunteer in a war torn country as a medic?

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:49 | 5061068 Cthonic
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It wouldn't be thrilling if it wasn't dangerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CzJnVAq21c

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:42 | 5063004 NickVegas
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Prison planet baby, debt and death for all.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:09 | 5060859 KingdomKum
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molon labe

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:16 | 5060897 rum_runner
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There's something very curious about the aussie and kiwi mindset.. Take NZ as an example.  Empty country!  I've travelled it.. beautiful, amazing land.  More sheep that people.  And yet they feel the need to support a spy agency and, like their aussie cousins, an Orwellian set of laws.

And yet they maintain this rugged "outback" image. 

I guess it's not really all that different than us Americans.. so proud of our "freedoms" yet so ready to lift our skirts when we're told it's for national security.  An upside down world all right.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:06 | 5061411 FeralSerf
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It's tradition. The English lords have been doing that to their people and the people of Ireland and Scotland for over a thousand years.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:18 | 5060904 goldhedge
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Which are the dumbest Australians.  The Sheep or the Sheeple?

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:30 | 5060968 daemon
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" Which are the dumbest Australians.  The Sheep or the Sheeple? "

I don't know for sure, but ...., and don't repeat it, they may not be that different ......  , they may even be related, .....can you believe it ?      .... shhh.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:23 | 5060931 esum
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if the 125 are "overseas" .... what threat does that pose???? yeah and dont forget tehy  took the guns before they announced this... 

hey be like our DHS and FBI.... have specific terrorists pointed out to you AND DONT DO A FUCKING THING and let them bomb Boston.. let them leave the country and DONT KEEP TRACK IF THEY TRY TO COME BACK...it works in the USSA and IF THAT ISNT GOOD ENOUGH...OPEN YOUR BORDERS ..... 10-15% of those entering illegally are from "terrorist" countries.... Obola allows murderers, rapists and violent criminals GO FREE... to be recycled and allowed to KILL AGAIN... 

but according to Obola, the world is the MOST TRANQUIL it hss ever been.... 

molycoddle a TRAITOR freee TERRORISTS FROM GITMO.. AND leave a combat vet marine in Mexico to rot... 

we should stop all commerce and tourism with mexico until they release the marine... that woudl probably take 1/2 hour before they caved... 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:09 | 5061415 FeralSerf
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News item: most of the "TERRORISTS FROM GITMO" are/were on the US government payroll. Some of them were even marines.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:25 | 5060939 BullyBearish
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The Six Eyes...don't forget Satanyahoo and his band of merry murderers from Tel Aviv

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:08 | 5061152 RadioactiveRant
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Israel is the most poisonous fascist country since Nazi Germany. Most of the terrorist attacks on the US and UK in recent times have been down to each countrys support for Israel, and they bring literally nothing to the table. These attacks have been used to justify the creeping changes in the law that are making us as fascist and repressive as they are.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:11 | 5061425 FeralSerf
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They're much WORSE than Nazi Germany.

Nazi Germany was just the effect of Germans fighting back against their oppressors.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:30 | 5060959 alexcojones
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Almost ALL Aussies are wonderful people.

But it is Their .Gov that Sucks.

Can be said of EVERY Country in the world

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:33 | 5060989 gcjohns1971
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I'll happily make a deal with the Ruskies,

We'll take care of our assholes if they take care of theirs.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:28 | 5061494 falak pema
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Yes, the offer the "best job in the world".

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:30 | 5060966 Notsobadwlad
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One wonders what happens to make someone such as Abbott turn so bad?!? Maybe he always was...but it could be threats to his life or the lives of his family...

... or maybe demonic possession.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:25 | 5062547 omniversling
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"After graduating, Abbott trained as a Roman Catholic seminarian "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Abbott

Abbott said of his time as a trainee priest: "The Jesuits had helped to instil in me this thought that our calling in life was to be, to use the phrase: 'a man for others'. And I thought then that the best way in which I could be a 'man for others' was to become a priest. I discovered pretty soon that I was a bit of a square peg in a round hole ... eventually working out that, I'm afraid, I just didn't have what it took to be an effective priest.[39]

An effective Satanist then...?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:32 | 5060973 gcjohns1971
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Strange,

Didn't they just sign currency swap and trade agreements with China?

I thought the consensus was that they were with the 'good' guys - you know - the East Asian Empire which is currently allied with the Eurasian Empire against the evil Oceania.

Or is the EastAsian Empire actually allied with Oceania against the Evil Eurasian Empire this week?  It is getting so hard to keep track of the Illuminati bullshit du jour.

Sorry...  Gotta go.  There's a 2-minute hate playing...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:34 | 5060988 alexcojones
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Joe Vialls Tasmania report, when the Aussies gave up their guns.

THE PORT ARTHUR MASSACRE CONSPIRACY

RIP Joe

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:13 | 5061437 FeralSerf
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The Zio-media has done a brilliant job of keeping Australia and the rest of the world from understanding what really happened in Port Arthur.

Port Arthur was Australia's 9/11.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:58 | 5062036 The_Prisoner
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That and the Bali bombing.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 13:40 | 5066193 FeralSerf
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Absolutely, Bali too! An impartial investigation of Bali would show that the Zionist Anglo-Americans were the only terrorists that were able to do the Bali bombing.

Of course Bali "was necessary" in order to get the average Aussie on board Bush's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. And, like it was intended, it was very successful at changing ordinary Aussie opinion.

One mustn't allow the colonies to shirk their duty to supply cannon fodder for The Empire's military expeditions and conquests.

Remember Gallipoli. If the Empire is going to do something really stupid, it's better that REAL Englishmen don't have to die.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:32 | 5062579 omniversling
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Respectfully disagree, the monumental building in Port Arthur was already a ruin, and there were no gangs of ragheads with boxcutters involved .  http://www.google.com.au/search?q=port+Arthur+prison&client=safari&rls=e...

Effective as a PNAC 'New Pearl Harbour' though: http://www.antiwar.com/orig/stockbauer1.html

 

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 13:43 | 5066237 FeralSerf
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There "were no gangs of ragheads with boxcutters involved" on 9/11 in Manhattan either except in the media as patsies.

9/11 and Port Arthur were both all about herding the local sheeple. They both were successful operations by insiders.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:34 | 5060992 ableman28
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"As a native english speaker I'm not sure what he's trying to tell me..........."  That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time.  

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:26 | 5061485 falak pema
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Well, as that tennis player used to say, it translates to : "sorry mate, you're not Crocodile Dundee you are raw meat for the state crocodile. No hard feelings its just business as usual." 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:54 | 5061085 RadioactiveRant
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I love Australia and wish them well in the next storm but this is as insane as banning boycotts. whos pulling their strings?

 

In other news a second British politician is reported to the police for criticising Israel, while the Guardian publishes articles claiming the rise of anti-semitism in Europe is the medias fault for reporting on Gaza. It has nothing to do with apaitheid and war crimes committed by jews.

The world is going mad.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:56 | 5061093 Lea
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They can't let America bully its people and not follow suit. They want a piece of the fun, too. You know, the ego boost, the feeling of being invicible... did America think it was going to keep it all for itself?

The more it goes, the more I suspect them of being hell-bent on eliciting hate and utter morons. I mean, the ones who play by the system rules (if any) are obviously morons of the fifth-grader kind. The smart, educated ones are all dissenters.

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:41 | 5061295 giggler321
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scrimp? OK get your new camera and internet scan tools but if something happens and you fail to stop it - forgive us all for saying no more next time you cry wolf

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:42 | 5061298 Comte d'herblay
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Bigger Police State??

 

No Problemo.  Go long TASR, SMWC, Ruger, Browning, and the sleeper, dry cleaning businesses that cater to police uniform cleaning and especially the ones with "Martinizing"  on their windows. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:54 | 5061352 yellowsub
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Why don't they just monitor our thoughts and be done with this...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:17 | 5061449 FeralSerf
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"It will also become a crime now to travel to a country where terrorists are ‘conducting hostile activities’ unless you have a ‘legitimate excuse’."

In other words, it will be a crime to travel to those government sponsored terror hotbeds, the USA and Great Britain. It may even be a crime for Aussies to travel to Australia.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:26 | 5061487 Antihuman
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This really was a punch in the guts. Even with all this crap you guys have to put up with over there in the states, I somehow naively thought that it just wouldn't happen here. 

Well slap my ass and call me a dickhead, because we're fucked now. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:34 | 5062595 omniversling
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Have you been asleep for the past 11 years? 


Australia's terror laws 'surpass the US'

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australias-terror-...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:29 | 5061496 New_Meat
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Here's The Dumbest Thing You'll Hear All Week

Au contrarire, meat head, ya gotta' catch Joe Bite-Me. - Ned

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:41 | 5061571 gigaweb
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The Newspeak translation is fairly straightforward:  "The terrorist threat is extremely high, as it has been throughout all history.  This justifies our removing your civil rights from you."

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:42 | 5061572 gigaweb
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The Newspeak translation is fairly straightforward:  "The terrorist threat is extremely high, as it has been throughout all history.  This justifies our removing your civil rights from you."

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:19 | 5061790 MaxThrust
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In the beginning Australia had an administration that ruled by decree from Britain. Later Australia became a Federation of States and had it's own Government.
The people of Australia gave authority to this government to administer the country. The people retained authority over the government via elections.

What has change is the mirage of authority. Corporate Interests and Lobbyists now control Australia.

The government of Australia has become a monster with a voracious appetite. Never satisfied with the taxes it collects.
Now it seems not satisfied with the freedoms most Australians take for granted. I only hope the people of Australia wise up to this ploy and stop it.
The Israel lobby has a great deal of leverage over both major political parties in Australia and it would not surprise me if they were behind this increase of the surveillance state

Pro Israeli trolls can commence the downs now!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:28 | 5061845 thestarl
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Worst part about it is the telcos will pass the costs of data storage onto the consumer

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:41 | 5061932 ThorAss
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It's actually pretty simple. Murdoch runs this country (Oz) for the elites. And he has nearly total control over Abbott, not so much over Labor, who seem to be controlled by different people but with similar agendae. Murdoch controls a fair chunk of the mass media. His main voice is the nationwide broadsheet "The Australian". Want to see "The Agenda"? Just get yourself "The Australian" and start reading. It is all in there. Pro-Israeli, anti-Russia etc. No news, just cover to cover propaganda. The paper has been going on and on about these handful of "Australians" who are aiding or joining "The Terrorists" overseas and how "bad" a thing that is. Most Australians couldn't possibly give less of a fuck. Have been waiting for where this was all headed. No surprise from the ThorAss about the outcome. Just the normal subtle pressure in the nether regions as I bend over to pick up what's left of my dignity.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:43 | 5061933 ThorAss
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Serf's Up!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:48 | 5061967 My Days Are Get...
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I am very grateful for articles like these.  It demonstrates why we Americans can not give up anything period.

I traveled to Australia twice - each time for more than two weeks. 

The 2000 Olympics in Sydney were the best one ever - due to the interaction of ordinary citizens in Sydney - helpful and efficient.  One of the most positive experiences in my life.

I spent one week on the island of Tasmania - a far off place - used to warehouse prisoners. I fished for trout and stayed in B&Bs and interacted with everyone and really liked what I experienced.  Now, bear in mind, that as a penal colony, Tasmania had brutal conditions. Everything on the island is acidic.  And, if you, as a prisoner, had to descend into the pit and push and pull a double-handled saw with your mate on top, there was a real chance that you could be blinded by the acid in the sawdust raining down on you - even if you blindfolded yourself to protect your eyes.

On the east coast, the red necks have redder necks than their counterparts in Texas - these are tough blokes, who down beers double-fisted and play rugby until their knees get blown out.

This is all written from a perspective of 1998 and 2000.

What has happened since then.  Aussies back then were armed to the teeth and feared no one.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:47 | 5061968 My Days Are Get...
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I am very grateful for articles like these.  It demonstrates why we Americans can not give up anything period.

I traveled to Australia twice - each time for more than two weeks. 

The 2000 Olympics in Sydney were the best one ever - due to the interaction of ordinary citizens in Sydney - helpful and efficient.  One of the most positive experiences in my life.

I spent one week on the island of Tasmania - a far off place - used to warehouse prisoners. I fished for trout and stayed in B&Bs and interacted with everyone and really liked what I experienced.  Now, bear in mind, that as a penal colony, Tasmania had brutal conditions. Everything on the island is acidic.  And, if you, as a prisoner, had to descend into the pit and push and pull a double-handled saw with your mate on top, there was a real chance that you could be blinded by the acid in the sawdust raining down on you - even if you blindfolded yourself to protect your eyes.

On the east coast, the red necks have redder necks than their counterparts in Texas - these are tough blokes, who down beers double-fisted and play rugby until their knees get blown out.

This is all written from a perspective of 1998 and 2000.

What has happened since then.  Aussies back then were armed to the teeth and feared no one.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:47 | 5061969 My Days Are Get...
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I am very grateful for articles like these.  It demonstrates why we Americans can not give up anything period.

I traveled to Australia twice - each time for more than two weeks. 

The 2000 Olympics in Sydney were the best one ever - due to the interaction of ordinary citizens in Sydney - helpful and efficient.  One of the most positive experiences in my life.

I spent one week on the island of Tasmania - a far off place - used to warehouse prisoners. I fished for trout and stayed in B&Bs and interacted with everyone and really liked what I experienced.  Now, bear in mind, that as a penal colony, Tasmania had brutal conditions. Everything on the island is acidic.  And, if you, as a prisoner, had to descend into the pit and push and pull a double-handled saw with your mate on top, there was a real chance that you could be blinded by the acid in the sawdust raining down on you - even if you blindfolded yourself to protect your eyes.

On the east coast, the red necks have redder necks than their counterparts in Texas - these are tough blokes, who down beers double-fisted and play rugby until their knees get blown out.

This is all written from a perspective of 1998 and 2000.

What has happened since then.  Aussies back then were armed to the teeth and feared no one.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:54 | 5062008 Runs-With_Toast
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Port Arthur massacre false flag to justify taking many types of guns. Most of us shooters know it. Its the Usa shafting Au.

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:51 | 5061988 Runs-With_Toast
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Im an Aussie, this moron has had his orders from the Elite

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:51 | 5061992 butchtrucks
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The quality of political leadership in Australia is abysmal.

Check out the country's Attorney General George Brandis in an interview last night about the Government's Orwellian plans to monitor everyone's internet activity.

The most embarrassing interview you are ever likely to see. Completely clueless. Jibbering fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUNxYdq_ynk

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:56 | 5062017 datapanik
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The Abbott government is so far up Washingtons arshole that even the Americans are surprised.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 20:22 | 5062179 My Days Are Get...
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Why is your government so subservient

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:09 | 5062453 The_Prisoner
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Rupert Murdoch aka CIA

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:24 | 5062537 Aussiekiwi
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Either its all part of the big plan or they lack balls, you decide.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:23 | 5062524 Aussiekiwi
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Yep, using fear to usher in legislation to remove your rights, legislation which will if course be abused by the security forces, all for our own good of course. following along in the US's footsteps because somewhere in the world there might be some evil.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 21:50 | 5062690 omniversling
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Are rights not enshrined in a constitution more or less permanent than rights enshrined in a constitution?

Question framed for our US cousins, who have (had?) both. Whither be they now, and in the Land of the 2nd Amendment, how are so many Executive Orders and Federalisations not being met with appropriate resistance, as the US Constitution allows? 

From U.S. Declaration of Independence:  ""when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government" 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Declaration_of_Independence

Interesting read: Right of revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_revolution

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

 Thomas Jefferson"


Tracy Chapman - If Not Now 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9SpX64g84U

 

"If Not Now..."
If not now then when

If now today then
Why make your promises
A love declared for days to come
Is as good as none

You can wait 'til morning comes
You can wait for the new day
You can wait and lose this heart
You can wait and soon be sorry

Now love's the only thing that's free
We must take it where it's found
Pretty soon it may be costly

If now now what then
We all must live our lives
Always feeling Always thinking

The moment has arrived

 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:14 | 5062846 Spore
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Wow! First the morons give up their guns. Now they are going to willingly give up their Freedom!?!?! The perfect sheeple model!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:34 | 5062963 AdvancingTime
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Will terrorists kill innocent civilians in the years to come? Of course. They did so more than 100 years ago, when they were called anarchists—and a responsible nation-state must take reasonable measures to protect its citizens. But there is no way to completely eliminate terrorism.

The challenge that confronts us is how we will live with that threat. In America we have created an economy of fear, an industry of fear, a national psychology of fear. Al Qaeda could never have achieved that on its own. We have inflicted it on ourselves. More on this subject in the article below.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/09/a-terrorist-under-every-bed.html

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:35 | 5062967 Sandmann
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What new agency are they creating ? The Botany Bay Company ? Australian Heritage Agency ?

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 07:30 | 5064083 Munkey
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The thing about Australia is, it's a diverse place and our population growth is largely driven by immigration. Large sections of society can't even relate to or comprehend what is being lost at present. In my opinion, what's happening here isn't an "Australian thing", it's global. Globalisation has destroyed the free market democracies and replaced them with alliances of state democracies of varying degree, some overt and others covert.

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