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Pentagon Confirms Russia Violated US Airspace 16 Times In Last 10 Days, "Not Just Training Missions"

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Having admitted that a Russian fighter jet flew within 30 meters of a US spy plane (on the border of Russia) a month ago, The Washington Times reports defense officials confirming Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days - an unusually sharp increase in aerial penetrations.

 

 

As Free Beacon reports,

The numerous flight encounters by Tu-95 Russian Bear H bombers prompted the scrambling of U.S. jet fighters on several occasions, and come amid heightened U.S.-Russia tensions over Ukraine.

 


 

Also, during one bomber incursion near Alaska, a Russian intelligence-gathering jet was detected along with the bombers.

 

“Over the past week, NORAD has visually identified Russian aircraft operating in and around the U.S. air defense identification zones,” said Maj. Beth Smith, spokeswoman for U.S. Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).

 

Smith called the Russian flights “a spike in activity” but sought to play down the threat, stating the flights were assessed as routine training missions and exercises.

 

The bomber flights took place mainly along the Alaskan air defense identification zone that covers the Aleutian Islands and the continental part of the state, and one incursion involved entry into Canada’s air defense zone, Smith said.

 

The Russian strategic aircraft included a mix of Tu-95 Bear H heavy bombers and Tu-142 Bear F maritime reconnaissance aircraft, she said, adding that one IL-20 intelligence collection aircraft was detected during the flight incursions over the past week to 10 days.

Perhaps most worrying...

A defense official disagreed with the spokeswoman on the increased bomber forays. Russian strategic nuclear forces appear to be “trying to test our air defense reactions, or our command and control systems,” said an official familiar with reports of the incursions.

 

“These are not just training missions,” the official added.

“Additionally, we have seen significant Russian strategic aircraft deployments in the vicinity of places like Japan, Korea, and even our West Coast,” Haney said at a defense industry breakfast.

 

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Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:48 | 5059535 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Wait ... the plane has propellers. Freakin propellers. How effective is that platform?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:53 | 5059565 NotImpressed
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To fly long distance - pretty damn good.  To survive once the Master Arm switch goes from Safe to Arm on a modern fighter; not good.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:55 | 5059586 redpill
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Yeah but you can make 75 of them for the price of one B-2.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:57 | 5059597 Four chan
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do we have any buc missiles laying around we could test?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:02 | 5059640 Divided States ...
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So what...the US has violated MY constitutional rights as a citizen 1600 times in the last 10 months.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:10 | 5059688 So What
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--Caeser the ape in Planet of the Apes is smarter.

--Barack Hussein Obama, POTUS, is smarter.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:30 | 5059834 Flybyknight
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So the warmongering lying bastard who is leading the Western world to ruin is sujected to racist insults. I'm ok with that

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:59 | 5060063 NotApplicable
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I'm not, as it generates sympathy for him.

Not to mention, he's the least black man on the planet.

Arugula

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:30 | 5060311 MalteseFalcon
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Hey, I can see Russian bombers from my house.

OK PUTIN, THE GLOVES COME OFF NOW!!!!!!

 

#hatin' Putin  #Russian chemtrails

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:53 | 5060759 Unknown User
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Actually, the Tu-95MR Russian Bear is a photo-reconnaissance plane which is allowed to overfly US territory under anti-ballistic missile treaty.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:02 | 5061398 Son of Loki
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They may have penetrated ... but at least they pulled out in time.....

Whew!

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:39 | 5063522 StychoKiller
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So, our precious bodily fluids are safe then!

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 02:09 | 5063708 mjcOH1
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"Yeah but you can make 75 of them for the price of one B-2."

Yep. And 75 of them, when the balloon goes up, will deliver cumulatively the same megatonage as the 1 B2.

They can play their game. We'll play ours.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:43 | 5060392 goldhedge
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So the warmongering lying bastard who is leading the Western world to ruin is sujected to racist insults. I'm ok with that

 

Looks like Obama is sucking a dick.  So it ain't raciss.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:37 | 5059883 Headbanger
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This story is fucking bullshit!

Just take a look at the enormous reach of the Alaskan ADIZ out into the Pacific and it's easy to see these Russian aircraft could have been way the hell off shore of any populated American soil to violate this zone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Defense_Identification_Zone_%28North_Am...

It's just moar MSM fear mongering of the Russians along with demonizing Putin on the Newsweak cover.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:03 | 5060478 balanced
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You are missing the point, which is that Russia used to honor the ADIZ, because it respected the United States military. The fact that it is now starting to violate the ADIZ on a regular basis (essentially threatening the U.S. - these are nuclear bombers, not migs) indicates that Russia no longer respects or fears us as it once did.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:41 | 5063529 StychoKiller
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Piffle!  this sort of thing has been going on since the Eisenhower administration, on BOTH sides!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:01 | 5060802 trulz4lulz
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Yeah he should have used an image of a cock, more politically correct and all that.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:57 | 5060000 lcs
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Dammit, Grady, this is the President!

http://www.destgulch.com/movies/fsafe/fsafe13.wav

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:36 | 5059882 logicalman
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Identification Zones are not US air space.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:44 | 5060398 rainingFrogs
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yes, totally deceptive, shrill headline.  cmon, Tylers.  Don't copy headlines over from MSM. At best its just lazy, at worst its the same propaganda MSM is dishing out.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:05 | 5059653 Badabing
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The bear bombers probably have vacuum tube tech so hat EMF doesn't effect them too

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:12 | 5059705 Headbanger
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You mean EMP

And I doubt tubes are any tougher than semiconductors under an EMP burst.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:22 | 5059765 Manthong
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My understanding is that EMF from EMP is less worrisome to a tube circuit than to a transistor, IC or microprocessor.. it's an inductance, sensitivity, time and density thing.

 

But don’t knock the turbo-pop.

Particularly for ASW or general surveillance

If the job is to loiter low and slow,  or just hang there in the air, it’s the best way to go.

A Rooskie Bear up front is the least of our worries.

It’s the mental midget politics in the back we need to fear.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:25 | 5059808 mrmister
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The Russian Bear bomber is just slightly slower than a B-52 maybe 30mph. But the Bear Gets better gas mileage. However, the Russians may not use the bear it may just be an act...they have very fast drones and B1 type bombers called BlackJacks.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:05 | 5060110 SumTing Wong
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As I remember it from the 1980's, EMF is unbelievable.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:26 | 5060278 The_Dude
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:41 | 5060380 gonetogalt
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An old Constellation pilot told me he once outran a flight of B-52s to Hawaii.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:39 | 5060671 Dr. Everett V. Scott
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mrmister:

A B-52 is about 200 mph faster than a Bear.  And B-52's can fly halfway around the world without refueling. Carry 30,000+ lbs ordinance.

They're hard to beat, even in 2014.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:35 | 5059878 DeadFred
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They just need to get close enough to launch cruise missiles which can be done from international waters. The tubes give them a good chance for returning after the EMP blast, or at least gives the pilots reason to believe they aren't on a one-way mission, which helps. When they stop using Bears (love the name) and start using the supersonic Blackjacks you will know they are getting serious. They have ten times as many Bears. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:37 | 5060356 fallout11
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Like all Russian (and formerly, Soviet) aircraft, they are overdesigned and overbuilt for a limited lifespan (5000 hours in the air) of service. The Russians do not do program depot maintenance (a complete overhaul and rebuild) on their aircraft like we do, rather, they are intended as a disposible, consumable commodity (much like light bulbs or batteries), used up then parked in the weeds in long rows when they have uneconomical to repair damage or have exceeded their operational life.  This saves money in the long run, ensures the use of "new" aircraft, and to make up for this contunual churn keep their aircraft designs in low rate production over the operational lifespan of the platform (keeping the manufacturers in business and with steady work, rather than ramp up, produce a bunch, then lay everyone off and shutter the facility/lose the experience and knowledge). When new technology or designs are available, they scrap the old ones and start fresh with clean sheet designs, rather than trying to shoehorn the new tech into an old airframe (example: F-15), with all the compromises and cost associated with same.  Just a different approach to things necessitated by their smaller budgets.

Astronaut space pen vs cosmonaut pencil. Both write in zero gravity. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:26 | 5061830 TheRedScourge
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"Astronaut space pen vs cosmonaut pencil. Both write in zero gravity. "

 

Actually, that is an urban (spatial?) myth. It didn't cost that much to make the pen, and they do NOT use pencils in space, because the graphite breaks off and goes everywhere, including in the sensitive instrument panels. Graphite is a conductor, if you didn't recall.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:44 | 5063538 StychoKiller
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Ever hear of "grease pencils?"

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:51 | 5060432 RafterManFMJ
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The Bear is one sexy looking machine.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:41 | 5059912 FilthyHabits
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Technically speaking an EM Pulse produces a EM Force.

No, your thoughts about any semiconductors inductive resistance capacity to this said force is significantly less than a tube style ex-plexor. That being said they don't use tubes at all. Most pilots are being trained, most likely =], on fly by observation - which is all mechanical except for the tesla coils running the hi voltage arc across the spark plugs; which are obviously well insulated.

My feeling is, these are non instrument flights for geographic memorization so in the case of an EMP causing significant EMF disrupting electronic circuitry; It would become a Null & Void effort causing more harm than good.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:49 | 5059976 Badabing
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"tesla coils running the hi voltage arc across the spark plugs"
Turbo prop no pistons no plugs.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:30 | 5061847 TheRedScourge
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You nitpick that, but not the use of the term "tesla coils"? lol

 

Have a look at some tesla coils sir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbLshnfu0wY

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:01 | 5060808 lakecity55
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Or, do you mean ECM? Electronic counter-measures.

Some older equipment will resist even ECM, except fro broad-band jamming.

USAF also has tubes. Ever since we discovered EMFs we have had certain items kept old-style. This is a deterrent.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 10:39 | 5065095 fallout11
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True. The AN/USM-464, a late 1970's era standalone EMP-shielded, triple redundancy standalone test set for the B-52's electronic countermeasure suite, still uses vacuum tubes, and remains in use. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:40 | 5060374 Libertarian777
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not to mention if it has long range cruise missiles it would likely be able to fire them from Russian airspace and still hit the continental US.

 

Shit we still fly B-52's which aren't much better than Tu-95's

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:59 | 5059589 COSMOS
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I'm sure they will launch their nuclear missile before the air to air missile from the fighter even gets close.

So how much airspace can a country claim as their own exclusive domain from their shore?

Also what about above, I mean US satellites overfly Russia all the time, how far up can you claim airspace?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:03 | 5059636 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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It's a reminder that people do not "own" land. We just dwell on it. For a short time.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:08 | 5060504 RichardP
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... how far up can you claim airspace?

The answer is in the name airspace:  as far up as the air goes.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:46 | 5059615 Urban Redneck
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But the Tu95 also hopes to survive when its own Master Arm switch goes from Safe to Arm (at which point the US fighter has much bigger things to worry about), and the older and simpler Russian design is a good bet when it comes riding out a nuke induced EMP).

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:58 | 5060459 RafterManFMJ
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The powers used to make atomic air to air missiles; wonder if they still do.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:16 | 5059735 Stoploss
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16 Penetrations in 10 days???  Those Whores!!

So that's why they're all for choice, they just love to get fucked.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:30 | 5059833 MichiganMilitiaMan
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This is awkward to say, but you have it backwards. 

The U.S is the whore, being penetrated.  Russian is doing the penetrating.  We are not the stud or john in this situation, Russia is!

By the way, this is what happens when the U.S. is run by a bunch of pussies.  I just hope we don't get it up the ass (EMP).

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:52 | 5060744 Zero Govt
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I'm still getting Meet Sexy Russian Girls banners on my pages ...so EU/US sanctions clearly haven't hit, or worked, yet

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:54 | 5059578 Cocomaan
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Fine for most bombing. Not a b52, but not useless.

It's not an air superiority platform.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:40 | 5060376 fallout11
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The "Bear" is heavily used for reconnaissance and anti-submarine, anti-ship warfare as well. They have very long area loiter times (aka "good mileage").

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:56 | 5060768 lakecity55
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If it goes hot, those bombers will be escorted by Sukhoi Fighters, refueled in-flight. The US fighters will deal with the MiGs while the Bears launch cruise weapons. If US air defence saw a flight of Bears with heavt fighter escort, it will be on like Donkey Kong.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:56 | 5059591 Cattender
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this sounds BAD almost like WW 3 is imminent

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:58 | 5059604 NotImpressed
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Nah.  No reason to get your panties in a bunch.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:05 | 5059649 kridkrid
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WWIII started with a False Flag-ish event back in 2001.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:03 | 5060092 NotApplicable
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TWoT did you say?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:12 | 5059708 Piranhanoia
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The story is from the Washington Times folks,  which is good for lining a birdcage or wrapping fish.  The paper always wants war.  It is run by the Moonies who want to join Moonie himself in that private hell where only the king gets blowjobs.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:58 | 5059602 ZeroPoint
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All it has to do is drop the nuke. It doesn't have to make it back.

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:01 | 5059629 ebworthen
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The Bear H can carry 33,000 lbs. of bombs, but is designed to carry these cruise missiles:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raduga_Kh-55

They could likely deploy nuclear cruise missiles before being shot down.  They've built over 500, not sure how many H's are in service but 25 would do it.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:14 | 5060890 trulz4lulz
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Long aerial penatration indeed.

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:02 | 5059631 digitalindustry
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it's called "Geopolitical trolling" - the only thing better would be to paint them pink maybe send a blimp ?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:07 | 5059670 Winston Churchill
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Its a standoff platform, for lauching missiles from at least 1500km.

If they launched an attack, the first the US would know would be way too late.

Poking the eagle.

Seems America can't take what they dish out.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:45 | 5060710 Dr. Everett V. Scott
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Winston says:

Seems America can't take what they dish out.

Nah.

Seems Obama  can't take what they dish out.

FIFY.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:12 | 5059706 williambanzai7
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Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:46 | 5059913 jmc8888
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Well considering we still use propeller planes to drop most of our bombs, pretty effective.  The B-52 is still our bomber of choice.  They dropped more bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan then anything else did.

Sure we have a bunch of higher priced jet ones that we mistakenly think are invisible to radar.  Not the Russian's radar and anti-aircraft systems.  But the heavy lifters for both the U.S. and Russian airforce are propeller bombers.  We use airstrikes to knock out the air defenses, then let the B-52's roll through. 

All bombers are inherently sitting ducks. Sure propeller ones are even more so.  But like some people have said, if you can build 75 propeller bombers for every one stealth bomber, you can overwhelm air defenses.  Remember you only need one bomber per mission to get through and deliver a nuclear payload to be 'successful'. 

They're just pointing out to our crazy leaders that unlike 3rd world dictators, Russian is reminding us, because it's clear they need a reminder, that Russia can hit back at any time, and in a most devastating way. 

Our gov't is run by morons who follow some of the dumbest policies ever invented.  What's worse, is that they are true believers in these failed policies and actually insanely think their failed policies give them an edge.  They're trying to treat Putin like he is Saddam.   Our glorious leaders actually think you can win a nuclear war, and they think they can do it. 

Oh and now after this Ukrainian Nazi experiment, our leaders won't ever be able to claim that the ABMD pointed at Russia isn't meant to be taken by Russia as against them.  But nothing is lost, since they weren't moron enough to believe our leaders' lies to begin with.

Oh and remember this, their nuclear missiles are much newer, and even have brand new ones.  Ours are still run by Apollo-era computers and huge floppy disks.  One more thing...unlike us, they have MIRV's or multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle.  In layman's terms, multiple nuclear bombs on a single missile so that they can basically carpet bomb us with nuclear weapons from each missile.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:53 | 5060001 Headbanger
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Bullshit

The B2 stealth bomber and "F"-117 are not "sitting ducks"

And we have MIRVS too

And much more advanced sub launch missile systems

But the point here is that if a major war does erupt with Russia, then Ebola will be the least of our problems.

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:35 | 5060347 imaginalis
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The biggest danger I face is from crazy drivers on the 405 freeway.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:05 | 5060488 RafterManFMJ
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I passed an F35 on I-79 North bound this morning; it was limping along the berm, the pilot hacking up bits of carbon.

Arrogant bastard didn't even have his 4 ways on.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:53 | 5060004 pods
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Not to nitpick, but the B-52 is a jet.

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:56 | 5060040 phoolish
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We Make Our Own Reality.

 

One FUBAR at a time.

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:31 | 5060316 skifff
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"you can build 75 propeller bombers " - it's incorrect...

first of all, number of Tu-95MS-6(16) is well known. Regulated by mutual agreements, google: START

there are 63 of them... they are a lot yonger then B-52s (last one was produced in 1962) Tu-95MS-6(16) 1985...

"Bears-6(16)" ACLM launch platforms, from 2500km X-55sm to 5000km X-101/102

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:41 | 5060377 Z_End
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We have MIRVs and we have had them for a long time.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 01:16 | 5063613 StychoKiller
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Guess you never heard of the "Peacekeeper" SRM ICBM with MIRVS.  There, you've been carpet-bombed with acronyms!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:48 | 5059536 COSMOS
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Prove IT !!!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:52 | 5059561 eclectic syncretist
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Sarah Palin saw them!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:49 | 5060733 Dr. Everett V. Scott
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"Prove it"??

I worked on them. In the USAF. And that was quite a few years ago.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:50 | 5059544 eurogold
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I don't believe this story !

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:55 | 5059582 Freddie
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I don't believe anything from the US Govt or the media.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:06 | 5059660 eclectic syncretist
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I believe we wouldn't be hearing a peep out of the Pentagram if Russia was buying more Dollars and US agricultural products.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:06 | 5061148 Estrella
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Chill. The ADIZ (Air Defense Identification Zone) is NOT our internationally recognized airspace boundaries. Our international boundaries, like all nations, extend only 12 miles from our shores, with an economic development zone a few hundred (two hundred I think). The ADIZ is not internationally recognized nor defined by treaty.

And the Bear is a solid platform. It does what it is desgined to do pretty darn well. Pretty impressive up close.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:50 | 5059546 skbull44
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Nothing like "aerial penetration". Welcome to the Mile High Club;)

http://olduvai.ca

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:09 | 5059681 No Euros please...
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I did it in Denver once or twice, does that count?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:47 | 5060413 goldhedge
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Having a wank doesn't count.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:50 | 5059549 zaphod
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Russia is not a threat, they are not going to invade mainland US territory.

The US's own FSA is the real threat to the republic.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:54 | 5059574 Freddie
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The USA is being invaded NOW and the Pentagon does NOTHING.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:09 | 5059685 Badabing
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The invaders are from the pentagon!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:18 | 5060215 richsob
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Good point. The FSA is our #1 threat. But poking the Eagle or the Bear with a pointed stick day after day after day increases the odds that somebody will make a mistake and then the shit would really hit the fan. It's only prudent to play hard with each other but play smart too.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:52 | 5059553 Racer
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And it is okay for the US bully to fly unauthorised over other countries airspace though.

More than likely it is more propaganda out of the brain dead US gobmint

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:20 | 5059767 oddjob
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Exactly, the AC-130 doesn't bring flowers n chocolates.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:52 | 5059555 ebworthen
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Russia reminding the U.S. that Kiev is only 470 miles from Moscow, and Donetsk to the Russian border 62 miles.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:54 | 5059558 richsob
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This is the Russian military playing with fire. All it takes is one little mistake to kick things into chaos when one side makes a crucial mistake. It's not worth it. Everybody needs to back the hell up a bit. EVERYBODY.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:01 | 5059625 Bunghole
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The Alaska Air Defense Zone in many places is closer to Russia than it it to Alaska.

Dont get your panties in a wad over this.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:10 | 5060156 richsob
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Closer to Alaska than it is to Russia?! Damn, man, it's fucking OVER Alaska and extends toward Russia. Typical biased bullshit created out of an overweening desire to see Russia in the best possible light irregardless of the facts.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:18 | 5060902 trulz4lulz
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"irregardless" isnt a word.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:15 | 5059731 digitalindustry
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of course Ukraine puppets popping off ballistic missiles on the Russian boarder is cool, better than cool its ice cold. < here no fire.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:52 | 5059560 Freddie
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The Pentagon.  Liars.  Killing American boys for BS bankster wars since at least 1861.   Maybe the military and Pentagon can defend The Constution against foreign AND DOMESTIC enemies including See EYe Aye cutouts with no birth certificate.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:12 | 5060167 richsob
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Comical reply. I don't like Obama either but this mindset is ridiculous.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:52 | 5059563 pods
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Nothingburger. These air defense identification zones are not the same as airspace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Defense_Identification_Zone_(North_America)

The map of Alaska shows how big it is and far away it goes.

pods

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:43 | 5059928 JohninMK
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If there were no incursions there would be no need to have all those expensive fighters out there.

Its a joint 'keep our jobs relevant' task on both sides.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:49 | 5059975 The Phallic Crusader
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not the same as airspace, but not nothingburger - indeed it's a wonderful place ot start a war.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:53 | 5059564 BullyBearish
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Would the Pentagon lie?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:11 | 5059699 Winston Churchill
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Is the Pope catholic ?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:04 | 5060100 Badabing
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Does a bear shit bombs?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:09 | 5060129 Badabing
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Dbl

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:13 | 5060176 richsob
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Yes the Pentagon would lie. Would the Russian military lie?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:53 | 5059566 himaroid
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If they are watching Putin, MAYBE they will leave us alone.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:54 | 5059571 El Vaquero
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Air defence identification zone is not quite the same as US airspace.  The Russians are just poking at us like they did in the cold war.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:15 | 5060187 richsob
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I agree they are poking. Nothing new. But it reaches the point where it's fucking with someone who currently doesn't like you very much. And that's when stupid things can happen.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:57 | 5059573 tony wilson
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blah blah blah putin

blah blah blah hitler

blah blah blah mad dog.

over

anyone takin of the baby melting direct energy weapons used by the talmudic satanists in israhell

anyone talkin about 100s of tons of depleted uranium shells and bombs dropped on the levelled place called gaza.

anyone taking abou the thousands of covered up deaths

the organ harvesting

the children being stolen by israel for rape

the holocaust of palestine

everybody msm talkin not.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:19 | 5060913 trulz4lulz
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I cant like you enough!!! take all my green arrows tony...take all of my green arrows!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:54 | 5059575 I woke up
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Another attempt to sway public opinion, just like the other story about the 1.5B passwords stolen.  No detail and no way to validate the story.

Next story on deck will have something about Ebola and the Russians

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:03 | 5059644 mastersnark
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Just go along with it. Itd be nice to have a change of people to hate after 13 years.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:48 | 5060421 fallout11
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The Soviet Union never touched Ebola. Marburg B was their viral bioweapon of choice (which they admitted to have weaponized in 1990).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_biological_weapons_program 

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:54 | 5059579 hardmedicine
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I tell you truly, the FSA will be the Zombie apocalypse very soon.  I can't believe how many of them there really are out there.  I told my friend at lunch the other day while she was saying we need a strong Libertarian party......... I have come to the point that I embrace 'POST-INDUSTRIAL" America...... my feeling is : bring it on!  When you are set up on a piece of land with your own food, water supply and solar/wind power with plenty of protection you are ready for what is ahead.  No matter what really happens how can you win by continuing to fight against what is happening.  I say go with the collapse.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:07 | 5059671 Old Man River
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What do you mean by "post-industrial?"

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:10 | 5060161 Freddie
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A little late for Libertarian parties now.  I feel sorry for a lot of women in this country.  They will learn what women in Russia, Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia, Latin America have had to do to survive.   They will not be worrying about a new SUV and granite counter tops either.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:55 | 5059581 mastersnark
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Aerial penetration is technically called "attempted rape."

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:40 | 5060676 ThisIsBob
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Flying fuck?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:55 | 5059584 starman
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Do not forget people Putin is a ax KGB thug! 

They will do anything to stay in power!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:59 | 5059609 tony wilson
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starman thanks for that intel i had in fact forgot that fact : )

i forgot the fact that your a rabbinical cunt : )

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:21 | 5059772 Flybyknight
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He is ex-KGB but  belonging to a violent historical Indian cult? Who would have known?

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:27 | 5060281 Son of Captain Nemo
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Do not forget people Putin is a ax KGB thug!...

Starman

You need to pay a visit to Washington D.C., actually Langley Virginia to visit perhaps the greatest irony of all!

The George Bush Center for "Intelligence" with a capital "I".

Yes our 41st president of the United States who worked as an agent of the CIA and became our President that started a war during his tenure among many others we know and don't know about in his shady past doing covert in Latin America and the Middle East who also happened to have a hobby as a pedophile.

I think I'll take Putin hands down any given day of the week!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:55 | 5059587 Notsobadwlad
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Why on earth would anyone EVER believe either the Pentagon or anyone speaking for the Pentagon?

Has the Pentagon not already shown that they have no honor by continuously lying to the American people?

I mean seriously ...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:33 | 5059826 Badabing
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I'll believe the pentagram when they show us the CCTV footage of the 9/11 attack they confiscated.
Did we forget that $ 1trillion is still missing from the day before?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:09 | 5060144 NotApplicable
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Or $2.3 trillion.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:22 | 5060254 Freddie
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They have no honor being O's and the Soros oligarch's dual citizens bitch.  If you have a kid or a relative - tell them to stay out of the military. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:01 | 5059590 fleur de lis
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Is this confirmed the same way they confirmed information regarding the downed plane and the one that vanished into thin air and the Ukrainian fighting? Did they get the right info this time or is this more bungling? NORAD--aren't they the dopes oops I meant watchdogs who were nowhere on 911? Yeah, they're really believable this time, like all the other times.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:10 | 5059687 mastersnark
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I beginning to doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:21 | 5061806 fleur de lis
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LOL ;-)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:57 | 5059592 medium giraffe
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But sending a warship to the Black Sea directly contravening the Montreux Convention is OK?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:02 | 5059628 oudinot
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medium: I believe that a warship in the Black Sea will only contravene the Montreux (I thought it was 'Montreal'?) Convention if it stays in the BS over 20 days.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:19 | 5059753 medium giraffe
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Montreux, Switzerland.  Her tubes are too big to be there at all.  This has upset the Russians in the past, so it's hard to argue that it isn't provocative.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:56 | 5059595 SheepDog-One
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How DARE Ruskies fly all up near us when we're flying on their border! The nerve!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:57 | 5059603 SoDamnMad
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American spy plane just ducked into Swedish airspace to avoid Russian fighters send up to investigate in the Baltic area.

But suddenly we hit the panic button when Russians fly towards Alaska.

Dollar Bill Hiccup. These twin bladed turboprops can fly for days on a tank of fuel. Very efficient though they are so noisy that all crew are virtually deaf.  

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:01 | 5059623 NotImpressed
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What???  :)

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:00 | 5059608 digitalindustry
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they're going to need Sarah Pailn for this.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:38 | 5060665 lakecity55
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She used to have dual-termite flags on her governor desk. No thanks.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 17:18 | 5061196 kurt
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Putin Palin SHOWDOWN!

"Toe the line Putin 'cuz I'm lookin' at you"

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:00 | 5059613 Son of Captain Nemo
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Your good at talkin the talk Sam...

Now walk the walk with the "bigger ones"!...

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:01 | 5059616 kurt
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We're being PENETRATED?  

There must be a penetration GAP! I suggest we get to penetratin' double time. We need to send in Slim Pickens and his cowboys to lasoo him some bear cubs! Bat a couple o' those pesky varmints outa the wild blue yonder! Why? Because pussies get penetrated and occassionally assholes.  I'd rather be a dick!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:04 | 5059646 Son of Captain Nemo
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"There must be a penetration GAP! I suggest we get to penetratin' double time. We need to send in Slim Pickens and his cowboys to lasoo him some bear cubs! Bat a couple o' those pesky varmints outa the wild blue yonder! Why? Because pussies get penetrated and occassionally assholes.  I'd rather be a dick!"

"."

I thoroughly enjoyed this particular one of your's K

Thx

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:00 | 5059619 John McCloy
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Telling ya...Putin will go big or go home if he's pushed..first strike.
It may be his only chance to save Russia from being destroyed or taking over in coming decades or after his death..the man loves his nation. U.S. is the weakest it has ever been...even the patriotism is paper over here now backed by nothing but a ghost if a formally great nation.
Nuclear missile hits here the entire nation falls apart in a matter of minutes from panic because we have such a population that is utterly useless mentally addicted to government cash and that no longer makes things. Scares the fuck out of me because this is completely unnecessary...

Cannot believe people are even denying we are back in a Cold War.. We are at the nearest to a hot war with Russia at this point since 1962...and Putin is above and beyond more intelligent than Kruschev...and on this side...well...
Let's just say "You Mr. Obama...are no JFK"

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:30 | 5059672 Son of Captain Nemo
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Cannot believe people are even denying we are back in a Cold War.. We are at the nearest to a hot war with Russia at this point since 1962...and Putin is above and beyond more intelligent than Kruschev...and on this side...well...

Can't believe it either JM

Let's pray the kids who work for this dual citizen circumcised prick w/ears tell him where to go when the "moment" of truth rears it's ugly head!  I'd love nothing more than to see General "J.J." disappeared before he has a chance to give those orders....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=07e_1381659538&comments=1

 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:07 | 5059678 taraxias
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post of the day 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:14 | 5059717 TabakLover
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Why would Putin do that?  He can bring much more pain and anguish to the US by bluffing the Dow down 1000 points and crushing our economy.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:14 | 5059724 MedTechEntrepreneur
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This dumbass O is going to get us all killed.  Someone better remove the Jr High level executive from office NOW.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:20 | 5059759 the wet spot
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A leader on either side who forgets Mutually Assured Destruction is a psychopath.  No praise from me to an idiot like that.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:37 | 5059893 John McCloy
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It is Mutually Assured Destruction for him to allow them to continue to be aggressive towards Russia..the plan all along was to assimilate them with a puppet regime no matter how long it took...one beholden to the bankers and the NWO clowns..Ukraine was the first move in the "Grand Chessboard" written long ago by his boy Zbigniev.
I live in the city that is target #1 on the strike list to decapitate this nation..next up is D.C. ...i don't want this for me and my own not anybody elses but our leadership is in The land of OZ and are endlessly provoking ...for what oil and gas?? Ego?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:57 | 5060451 moonstears
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John, you're in Hollywood? No more Kim, and Miley? What shall we do??? This IS serious!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:00 | 5059622 buzzsaw99
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like my mother used to say: what did you do to them?

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