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Pentagon Confirms Russia Violated US Airspace 16 Times In Last 10 Days, "Not Just Training Missions"

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Having admitted that a Russian fighter jet flew within 30 meters of a US spy plane (on the border of Russia) a month ago, The Washington Times reports defense officials confirming Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days - an unusually sharp increase in aerial penetrations.

 

 

As Free Beacon reports,

The numerous flight encounters by Tu-95 Russian Bear H bombers prompted the scrambling of U.S. jet fighters on several occasions, and come amid heightened U.S.-Russia tensions over Ukraine.

 


 

Also, during one bomber incursion near Alaska, a Russian intelligence-gathering jet was detected along with the bombers.

 

“Over the past week, NORAD has visually identified Russian aircraft operating in and around the U.S. air defense identification zones,” said Maj. Beth Smith, spokeswoman for U.S. Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).

 

Smith called the Russian flights “a spike in activity” but sought to play down the threat, stating the flights were assessed as routine training missions and exercises.

 

The bomber flights took place mainly along the Alaskan air defense identification zone that covers the Aleutian Islands and the continental part of the state, and one incursion involved entry into Canada’s air defense zone, Smith said.

 

The Russian strategic aircraft included a mix of Tu-95 Bear H heavy bombers and Tu-142 Bear F maritime reconnaissance aircraft, she said, adding that one IL-20 intelligence collection aircraft was detected during the flight incursions over the past week to 10 days.

Perhaps most worrying...

A defense official disagreed with the spokeswoman on the increased bomber forays. Russian strategic nuclear forces appear to be “trying to test our air defense reactions, or our command and control systems,” said an official familiar with reports of the incursions.

 

“These are not just training missions,” the official added.

“Additionally, we have seen significant Russian strategic aircraft deployments in the vicinity of places like Japan, Korea, and even our West Coast,” Haney said at a defense industry breakfast.

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Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:48 | 5059535 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Wait ... the plane has propellers. Freakin propellers. How effective is that platform?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:53 | 5059565 NotImpressed
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To fly long distance - pretty damn good.  To survive once the Master Arm switch goes from Safe to Arm on a modern fighter; not good.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:55 | 5059586 redpill
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Yeah but you can make 75 of them for the price of one B-2.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:57 | 5059597 Four chan
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do we have any buc missiles laying around we could test?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:02 | 5059640 Divided States ...
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So what...the US has violated MY constitutional rights as a citizen 1600 times in the last 10 months.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:10 | 5059688 So What
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--Caeser the ape in Planet of the Apes is smarter.

--Barack Hussein Obama, POTUS, is smarter.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:30 | 5059834 Flybyknight
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So the warmongering lying bastard who is leading the Western world to ruin is sujected to racist insults. I'm ok with that

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:59 | 5060063 NotApplicable
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I'm not, as it generates sympathy for him.

Not to mention, he's the least black man on the planet.

Arugula

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:30 | 5060311 MalteseFalcon
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Hey, I can see Russian bombers from my house.

OK PUTIN, THE GLOVES COME OFF NOW!!!!!!

 

#hatin' Putin  #Russian chemtrails

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:53 | 5060759 Unknown User
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Actually, the Tu-95MR Russian Bear is a photo-reconnaissance plane which is allowed to overfly US territory under anti-ballistic missile treaty.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 18:02 | 5061398 Son of Loki
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They may have penetrated ... but at least they pulled out in time.....

Whew!

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:39 | 5063522 StychoKiller
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So, our precious bodily fluids are safe then!

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 02:09 | 5063708 mjcOH1
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"Yeah but you can make 75 of them for the price of one B-2."

Yep. And 75 of them, when the balloon goes up, will deliver cumulatively the same megatonage as the 1 B2.

They can play their game. We'll play ours.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:43 | 5060392 goldhedge
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So the warmongering lying bastard who is leading the Western world to ruin is sujected to racist insults. I'm ok with that

 

Looks like Obama is sucking a dick.  So it ain't raciss.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:37 | 5059883 Headbanger
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This story is fucking bullshit!

Just take a look at the enormous reach of the Alaskan ADIZ out into the Pacific and it's easy to see these Russian aircraft could have been way the hell off shore of any populated American soil to violate this zone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Defense_Identification_Zone_%28North_Am...

It's just moar MSM fear mongering of the Russians along with demonizing Putin on the Newsweak cover.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:03 | 5060478 balanced
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You are missing the point, which is that Russia used to honor the ADIZ, because it respected the United States military. The fact that it is now starting to violate the ADIZ on a regular basis (essentially threatening the U.S. - these are nuclear bombers, not migs) indicates that Russia no longer respects or fears us as it once did.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:41 | 5063529 StychoKiller
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Piffle!  this sort of thing has been going on since the Eisenhower administration, on BOTH sides!

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:01 | 5060802 trulz4lulz
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Yeah he should have used an image of a cock, more politically correct and all that.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:57 | 5060000 lcs
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Dammit, Grady, this is the President!

http://www.destgulch.com/movies/fsafe/fsafe13.wav

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:36 | 5059882 logicalman
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Identification Zones are not US air space.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:44 | 5060398 rainingFrogs
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yes, totally deceptive, shrill headline.  cmon, Tylers.  Don't copy headlines over from MSM. At best its just lazy, at worst its the same propaganda MSM is dishing out.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:05 | 5059653 Badabing
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The bear bombers probably have vacuum tube tech so hat EMF doesn't effect them too

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:12 | 5059705 Headbanger
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You mean EMP

And I doubt tubes are any tougher than semiconductors under an EMP burst.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:22 | 5059765 Manthong
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My understanding is that EMF from EMP is less worrisome to a tube circuit than to a transistor, IC or microprocessor.. it's an inductance, sensitivity, time and density thing.

 

But don’t knock the turbo-pop.

Particularly for ASW or general surveillance

If the job is to loiter low and slow,  or just hang there in the air, it’s the best way to go.

A Rooskie Bear up front is the least of our worries.

It’s the mental midget politics in the back we need to fear.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:25 | 5059808 mrmister
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The Russian Bear bomber is just slightly slower than a B-52 maybe 30mph. But the Bear Gets better gas mileage. However, the Russians may not use the bear it may just be an act...they have very fast drones and B1 type bombers called BlackJacks.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:05 | 5060110 SumTing Wong
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As I remember it from the 1980's, EMF is unbelievable.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:26 | 5060278 The_Dude
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:41 | 5060380 gonetogalt
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An old Constellation pilot told me he once outran a flight of B-52s to Hawaii.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:39 | 5060671 Dr. Everett V. Scott
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mrmister:

A B-52 is about 200 mph faster than a Bear.  And B-52's can fly halfway around the world without refueling. Carry 30,000+ lbs ordinance.

They're hard to beat, even in 2014.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:35 | 5059878 DeadFred
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They just need to get close enough to launch cruise missiles which can be done from international waters. The tubes give them a good chance for returning after the EMP blast, or at least gives the pilots reason to believe they aren't on a one-way mission, which helps. When they stop using Bears (love the name) and start using the supersonic Blackjacks you will know they are getting serious. They have ten times as many Bears. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:37 | 5060356 fallout11
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Like all Russian (and formerly, Soviet) aircraft, they are overdesigned and overbuilt for a limited lifespan (5000 hours in the air) of service. The Russians do not do program depot maintenance (a complete overhaul and rebuild) on their aircraft like we do, rather, they are intended as a disposible, consumable commodity (much like light bulbs or batteries), used up then parked in the weeds in long rows when they have uneconomical to repair damage or have exceeded their operational life.  This saves money in the long run, ensures the use of "new" aircraft, and to make up for this contunual churn keep their aircraft designs in low rate production over the operational lifespan of the platform (keeping the manufacturers in business and with steady work, rather than ramp up, produce a bunch, then lay everyone off and shutter the facility/lose the experience and knowledge). When new technology or designs are available, they scrap the old ones and start fresh with clean sheet designs, rather than trying to shoehorn the new tech into an old airframe (example: F-15), with all the compromises and cost associated with same.  Just a different approach to things necessitated by their smaller budgets.

Astronaut space pen vs cosmonaut pencil. Both write in zero gravity. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:26 | 5061830 TheRedScourge
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"Astronaut space pen vs cosmonaut pencil. Both write in zero gravity. "

 

Actually, that is an urban (spatial?) myth. It didn't cost that much to make the pen, and they do NOT use pencils in space, because the graphite breaks off and goes everywhere, including in the sensitive instrument panels. Graphite is a conductor, if you didn't recall.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 00:44 | 5063538 StychoKiller
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Ever hear of "grease pencils?"

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:51 | 5060432 RafterManFMJ
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The Bear is one sexy looking machine.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:41 | 5059912 FilthyHabits
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Technically speaking an EM Pulse produces a EM Force.

No, your thoughts about any semiconductors inductive resistance capacity to this said force is significantly less than a tube style ex-plexor. That being said they don't use tubes at all. Most pilots are being trained, most likely =], on fly by observation - which is all mechanical except for the tesla coils running the hi voltage arc across the spark plugs; which are obviously well insulated.

My feeling is, these are non instrument flights for geographic memorization so in the case of an EMP causing significant EMF disrupting electronic circuitry; It would become a Null & Void effort causing more harm than good.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:49 | 5059976 Badabing
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"tesla coils running the hi voltage arc across the spark plugs"
Turbo prop no pistons no plugs.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 19:30 | 5061847 TheRedScourge
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You nitpick that, but not the use of the term "tesla coils"? lol

 

Have a look at some tesla coils sir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbLshnfu0wY

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 16:01 | 5060808 lakecity55
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Or, do you mean ECM? Electronic counter-measures.

Some older equipment will resist even ECM, except fro broad-band jamming.

USAF also has tubes. Ever since we discovered EMFs we have had certain items kept old-style. This is a deterrent.

Fri, 08/08/2014 - 10:39 | 5065095 fallout11
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True. The AN/USM-464, a late 1970's era standalone EMP-shielded, triple redundancy standalone test set for the B-52's electronic countermeasure suite, still uses vacuum tubes, and remains in use. 

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:40 | 5060374 Libertarian777
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not to mention if it has long range cruise missiles it would likely be able to fire them from Russian airspace and still hit the continental US.

 

Shit we still fly B-52's which aren't much better than Tu-95's

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:59 | 5059589 COSMOS
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I'm sure they will launch their nuclear missile before the air to air missile from the fighter even gets close.

So how much airspace can a country claim as their own exclusive domain from their shore?

Also what about above, I mean US satellites overfly Russia all the time, how far up can you claim airspace?

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:03 | 5059636 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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It's a reminder that people do not "own" land. We just dwell on it. For a short time.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:08 | 5060504 RichardP
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... how far up can you claim airspace?

The answer is in the name airspace:  as far up as the air goes.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:46 | 5059615 Urban Redneck
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But the Tu95 also hopes to survive when its own Master Arm switch goes from Safe to Arm (at which point the US fighter has much bigger things to worry about), and the older and simpler Russian design is a good bet when it comes riding out a nuke induced EMP).

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 14:58 | 5060459 RafterManFMJ
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The powers used to make atomic air to air missiles; wonder if they still do.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:16 | 5059735 Stoploss
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16 Penetrations in 10 days???  Those Whores!!

So that's why they're all for choice, they just love to get fucked.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 13:30 | 5059833 MichiganMilitiaMan
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This is awkward to say, but you have it backwards. 

The U.S is the whore, being penetrated.  Russian is doing the penetrating.  We are not the stud or john in this situation, Russia is!

By the way, this is what happens when the U.S. is run by a bunch of pussies.  I just hope we don't get it up the ass (EMP).

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 15:52 | 5060744 Zero Govt
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I'm still getting Meet Sexy Russian Girls banners on my pages ...so EU/US sanctions clearly haven't hit, or worked, yet

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:54 | 5059578 Cocomaan
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Fine for most bombing. Not a b52, but not useless.

It's not an air superiority platform.

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