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Markets Turmoil As President Obama Authorizes Air Strikes On Iraq "To Prevent Genocide"
In an effort to prevent genocide, President Obama has authorized US military action in Iraq "to protect Americans":
- *OBAMA SAYS HE'S AUTHORIZED TARGETED AIR STRIKES IN IRAQ
- *OBAMA SAYS HE'S AUTHORIZED HUMANITARIAN DROPS FOR REFUGEES
Global equity markets and Treasury yields are tumbling. President Obama concluded: "Today, America Is Coming To Help Iraq"... Again!
Humanitarian aid has begun...
3 US military cargo aircraft dropped food and water for 8,000 people. Food included MRE's - meals-ready-to-eat. Planes escorted by 2 F-18s.
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) August 8, 2014
And the warmongers fully support the decision
Support for Pres Obama's Iraq actions from Senate Armed Svcs Chmn Carl Levin. Says justifications cited by POTUS "are surely sufficient."
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) August 8, 2014
Equity futures are tumbling...
Gold is surging...
and Brent and WTI Crude are jumping...
VIX futures are up around 1 vol at 17.7
The full speech -
“People are starving and children are dying of thirst,” Obama said, adding that ISIS is intent on committing genocide against the isolated Iraqis. “I have said before the United States cannot and should not intervene every time there’s a crisis in the world,” the president said. “So let me be clear about why we must act and act now.” With “innocent people facing violence on a horrific scale,” Obama said America “cannot turn a blind eye.”
“I ran for this office in part to end our war in Iraq and welcome our troops home and that’s what we have done,” Obama said. “As commander-in-chief, I will not allow the United States to be dragged into fighting another war in Iraq. So even as we support Iraqis as they take the fight to these terrorists, American combat troops will not be returning to fight in Iraq, because there’s no American military solution to the larger crisis in Iraq.”
The president ended by heralding the United States’ “leadership” in the world and stressed that “America has other tools in our arsenal than our military.” He said “we can also lead with the power of our diplomacy, our economy, and our ideals.”
“But when the lives of American citizens are at risk, we will take action. That’s my responsibility as commander-in-chief,” Obama continued. “And when many thousands of innocent civilians are faced with the danger of being wiped out and we have the capacity to do something about it, we will take action. That is our responsibility as Americans.”
Here is what ISIS controls...
His additional comments:
- *OBAMA SAYS MILITARY ACTION WOULD BE TO PROTECT AMERICANS
- *OBAMA SAYS MILITARY AUTHORIZED TO STRIKE ON ADVANCES ON ERBIL
- *OBAMA SAYS U.S. ACTING TO PREVENT ACT OF GENOCIDE
Adding
“I will not allow the United States to be dragged into fighting another war in Iraq,” he said.
And concludes:
- *OBAMA SAYS `TODAY AMERICA IS COMING TO HELP' IN IRAQ
Again...
10Y Yields are at 2.37% - and it appears the safe haven buying began when the press conference was announced...
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This should do wonders for his approval rating...
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Some thoughts from The National Journal on why he acted:
The World Will Blame President Obama if Iraq Falls
The world will not blame the Iraqi government if the children and women huddled atop Mount Sinjar in northern Iraq die of hunger and exposure. Nor will Pope Francis blame Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki if the Islamic extremists attacking the country slaughter the 40,000 Christians and other minorities who have fled to the mountaintop. The fact is that the world, from the pontiff in the Vatican to the coal miner in West Virginia, will blame President Obama.
That is why the president found himself under such intense pressure to act on Thursday, facing calls from around the world to marshal American might in a way to both rush humanitarian aid to the refugees in Iraq and punish the forces of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) who are trying to kill them.
It was notable that the pope's plea for help was not directed at Iraq's putative government. "His Holiness addresses an urgent appeal to the international community to take action to end the humanitarian tragedy now underway, to act to protect those affected or threatened by violence and to provide aid, especially for the most urgent needs of the many who have been forced to flee and who depend on the solidarity of others," said the statement issued by the Vatican on Thursday.
While the president was huddled with his military advisers in Washington assessing his options before making his decision, he could not help but feel the pressure. And perhaps no one could better understand that pressure than a man who routinely attended such meetings under three presidents and famously codified the "Pottery Barn Rule" prior to the launch of the Iraq War in 2003. According to author Bob Woodward, Colin Powell told President George W. Bush: "You are going to be the proud owner of 25 million people. You will own all their hopes, aspirations, and problems. You'll own it all." He distilled the rule as "You break it, you own it."
A decade later and after millions of American dollars, thousands of casualties, and seemingly hundreds of different policies, Iraq is very much broken. Even though he has boasted of "ending" the U.S. role in the war and even though he didn't create the situation, Obama very much owns the mess. And he finds himself on a timetable not of his choosing and very much at odds with his policy.
That policy has been clear ever since ISIS started gobbling up Iraqi territory and terrorizing the Iraqi people, meeting only ineffective response from the Iraqi military supposedly trained by the United States: First, force Maliki to reform his government, broaden his sectarian appeal, and send a signal to all of Iraq that Baghdad could represent and protect them all. Only then could military help come from the United States.
But this situation, which the White House concedes is an immediate humanitarian catastrophe with lives hanging in the balance, cannot wait for Maliki to get his politics together. As reporters repeatedly reminded press secretary Josh Earnest on Thursday, these people are already dying.
That forced Obama to square his aversion to using military force abroad with his humanitarian urges. After the United States stood idly by in 1994 during the Rwandan genocide, President Clinton promised the world that "never again" would the United States be blind to genocide. Obama's instincts were to keep that promise. But those instincts seemed to be at war with his desire to stay out of foreign wars. That brought renewed attention to the conditions the president laid out in 2011 to justify involvement in Libya's civil war.
In an address to the nation from the East Room on March 18, 2011, the president said he was impelled to act by a situation similar in many respects to the current crisis in Iraq. "Here is why this matters to us," he said then. Without international action, he said, there would be "atrocities against his people." He added, "Many thousands could die. A humanitarian crisis would ensue. The entire region could be destabilized, endangering many of our allies and partners. The calls of the Libyan people would go unanswered. The democratic values that we stand for would be overrun. Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow." He concluded, "And that's why the United States has worked with our allies and partners to shape a strong international response at the United Nations."
That speech is as close as it gets to outlining an Obama Doctrine for humanitarian situations. It is another reason why the pressure on the White House is so intense. The world knows that the United States "broke" Iraq and "owns" the mess, and is waiting to see if the Obama Doctrine that applied in 2011 still applies today.
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We await Ron Paul's comments...
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Ofuck.....
Let Israel deal with ISIS if it wants.
We in the USA have finally learned that there is no helping the Middle East.
ISIS/ISIL/Islamic State Inc. might be the best therapy, perhaps, the ONLY therapy, that can lead to an authentic and progressive Arab period of Enlightenment.
But it may take a century of Religious Hypocrisy and Religion inspired outrages for the fruits of real intellectual rebellion and ethics? Or maybe it will take much longer?
As I have said on many occasions, only atheism can save the Middle East.
USA sets middle east policy and starts/stops the wars and it is all about the oil (mostly):
http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-s-dependency-on-middle-east-oil/30177
Religion is used by ruling elites to manage the serfs. These wars are not religious except in the sense the ruling elites whip up the serfs to go to war. The end.
Evil has been hiding behind religion.
Why I don't do religion
I made up my own by taking what I see as truth from many.
One man's religion is another man's heresy.
Okay, to make it more interesting I am going to categorically support Obama on this one. Yup, you heard it.
First, I think Obama is an economic antichrist and pocket socialist which I despise. However, I am up for doing something in this situation. I believe these ISIL folks are among the worst on the planet and if we can stop a wholesale genocide and give the Kurds and others more time to organize a defense, then so much the better.
I also happen to favor not intervening in Syria and letting Iraq crumble into multiple states if that is what happens. So, if you ask me to reconcile the two it is a bit difficult, I admit. However, what I see in Syria and even Iraq are competing armed camps and not specific genocide against unarmed groups. I see competing camps that all pretty much hate us, as well unlike these Yazidi, Christians and even the Kurds to a great degree. If I saw the Sunni's rounding up Shi'tes for mass extermination aka Auschwitz I might favor intervention as well, including in the opposite situation. I tend to like the Kurds, yet I would not send in an infantry division to help them. Might sell them ammo and weapons, though. It is not for the sake of the military-industrial complex but the simple fact they need weapons and ammo...and food and fuel, etc.
There has to be some judgement made in supporting "good" and opposing "evil" in this world at least when practicable and possible. It actually seems to be an unpopular concept and it is an impossible judgement in the conspiracy world, but I am old school on this. It is a judgement call and how it is done is important, as well, but I actually agree with the Prez on this one...and it gives me indigestion to do so.
You drank the kool aid. This is all an excuse to go back to Iraq.
Those guys will go somewhere else now because we armed and supported them.
I hope you don't vote.
good bye
I categorically support your right to Eat a dick Freedom Guy.
Glad you are for gay rights. Is this supposed to be an argument?
Yes we must get the "evil doers"
Let me ask the question then. At what point do you resist the "evildoers"? (It is one word.)
A better question: At what point do you stop creating them?
It's a better question if you believe we create them. I suggest we did not create them any more than the Fascists of WWII, Commies of the Cold War or Kim Jung Un.
They created themselves.
I am not for a wholesale invasion of Iraq but I think there places and reasons to intervene. If all the ebears were being rounded up and summarily exterminated you and I both might hope for some interventions.
Life requires judgement and choices.
ISIL needs to be stopped.
A revered Muslim scholar in India is now wanting to raise 1 million young Indian Muslims to aid ISIL.
The government and other Islamic scholars are in shock.
If this guy does anything, the Muslims will return to India and spread violence.
http://geocurrents.info/geopolitics/the-ignored-plight-of-the-yezidis
ISIS was serving the U.S. interests against the regime in Syria and pressuring the IRAQ regime however they simply have gone too far with their extermination policies and they are closing on existing American positions and threatening to exterminate the Yezidis who are an ancient religion completely different from Islam. So they are going to be stopped in their tracks in IRAQ while the Kurds get their shit together and the U.S. does the same...but allowed still to pressure Syria and existing IRAQ regime. Will be interesting to see how this tightrope walking goes. Saving the Yezidis is excellent PR though and a noble cause to boot. The division of IRAQ into manageable portions goes on which is the plan all along so don't understand why the President 'backed into' this one - unless he doesn't know the plan.
ISIS in Syria knows how to negotiate and tone it down does ISIS in Iraq have a clue?
By the way Republicans out there, this is all Bush work Obama now has to own. And so was the complete utter lack of regulation of financial markets that led to 2007-2008. Blame the right President and the right party for creating the disasters no one has been able to fix since. BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS the immoral thieves that think they should get another crack at fucking up the world...
lol still blaming Bush.
I didn't vote for either fuck but I don't see a dimes worth of difference between them.
You are a worse traitor than the Bush voters, because you pukes backed this killer up
with left cover.
fuck you
Most unlikley headline of the week.
The US scarmbles Airforce to prevent Genocide... in Gaza.
Cable is going to get slammed into the dirt/
Okay... For those of you getting ready to take the "Kyle Bass" usd/jpy trade? Keep your eyes open.
There will be a large spike down over the next (30) days. I could give flying FUCK if you like me!
Fiscal year ends and(FX) flows will create an "unique opportunity".
usd/jpy will test parity over the next (30) days Bitchez
Most unlikley headline of the week.
The US scrambles Airforce to prevent Genocide... in Gaza.
The warmongers are coming out of the closet tonight.
We are in Pluto Capricorn now were evil is being unmasked for the second half of
this transit, separating the wheat from the chaff.
I'm on team peace, mark it down.
GAZA SCHMAZA. The sooner Palestinians come to grip with the fact ISRAEL ALREADY EXISTS the better off they will be. Removing Israel from existence is a pipe dream. Stop dreaming Palestinians, dump Hamas and work out a peace plan. You can't win so come to terms with Israel and win that way. The best way is to disarm Israel's excuse for attacking you, stop the rockets and demand the support and investment you deserve from Israel and everyone else in the middle east.
Its simple. Stop being stupid ideologues with no chance of realizing your delusions. As long as your this stupid how can anyone sympathize with your cause?
If you weren't Jew Haters denying historic fact, fait accompli and all the other Jew haters didn't support you with cries of "genocide" maybe the world and yourselves could move on to a place where there are solutions instead of persistent idiocy.
Every rocket you send spells "Palestinian Moron."
Charly Manson exists, it doesn't mean that he should.
I suppose then, to be not hypocritical, then one must conclude that Palestinians are beloved by the Jews?
I mean YOU can't be a Palestinian Hater, right? You are just killing them because you love them.
You can kill without hate. Riiigght....
Buckle up. This could be what JW was alluding to, if you paid close attention.
May God Bless the Republic.
There is no god.
Any other ideas? How about Kalki?
There is no god.
Any other ideas? How about Kalki? Vishnu might carry her water. Namaste
Our responsibility is not to bring down this dictatorial Nigger occupying the White House.
Anyone questioning him will be subject to a IRS audit or sent to Gitmo as a American terrorist.
/ lol
Send Chaney, Rumsfeld, Wolf-o-shits and all the rest of the neo-con mofos back in there.
Victoria Nuland aka Victoria Nudleman her husband was a founder of Project for a New American Century.
Obama was the new face of imperialism, they created him.
That's all you GOT?
I was gonna say "No shit Sherlock".
I want your wife! Hurricanes and outbreaks? Smokin HOT!
Oh no, I have everything. I have the desire to return to the creator. That is the goal of all humans, it might take you more misery to get there, but you will. I shouldn't even be dancing with you people in here, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are signing your name in blood. Most of you here as I read are money intersted people, which tells me you have no idea what life is about, what your life is about, where you are going, where you came from.
I am an evolutionary astrologer, we help people to see where they have been, and where they need to be going.
90% of the people on this planet are in the drone mode, they have no understanding of truth. And the higher of those are running the world, because they mastered the low system. The next stage rebels against them. The highest stage spritual is find a way back home.
i am opting out of the ego, I am going home.
So Mister Evolutionary Astrologer;
When?
Iridium/ Imigan your wife./
Frankey I could give , (2) shits
I live for Z/h
Did you not miss mi\y rUSSIAN DIATRAIB?
Nuland thoughts; once you go black, you never go back.
Spanish priest flown into Madrid with ebola.
First ebola patient in Mexico City as earthquake jars the capital
Man dies of ebola In Jeddah Saudi Arabia
Doing god's work.
Stupid religion.
The god left behind is causing human nothing but grief.
Too bad Abrahm didn't fuck up.
how come bitcon isn't 1000 again on this newz?
The U.S. has more or less been fighting in Iraq since the Gulf War. What's another year in a 24 year struggle? Or should we say 24 year distraction...
Im leaving now, you people are like the people on the gold fourms I met back in 2004. They were so vile, so shallow, so void of self understanding, so creepy and dirty.
what a pathetic group. The US is evil now along with Israel, Saudi Arabia and their proxies. They drag me into to evil by watching their genocide in gaza and beyond. I refuse to be part of this satanic ritual by watching it.
Your day is DONE, these are last days of a dying satan, thrashing about in bloodlust.
REJECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Umm...
Was this post meant for huffpuff?
You're raggin on the wrong site I'm thinkin.
We know the evil. Soon to be exposed.
You wouldn't know genocide if it made camp in your ass. The State Departments dog, ISIS, got loose and has treed 50,000 religious minorities (Christians) and now they must track "it" down and swat it with a newspaper. But I guess 150,000 dead between Egypt, Syria and now Iraq doesn't count as genocide.
Spare me your hyper-ventilating, hyperbolic bullshit.
Obama and his clan are trying real hard to start a major war. They won't stop until the US is at war against everyone.
...some thoughts from the National journal...
".....after millions of American dollars, thousands of casualties..."
Millions of dollars ? Should'nt that be more like about a trillion ? Thousands of casualities should be hundreds of thousands should'nt it?
The U.S. media has got to down play the numbers doesn't it ? Can't have too much truthiness for the sheep.
...and 0 has an aversion to using military force ? He has humanitarian urges ? No doubt he's due for another Nobel prize !
Why is ISIS all of the sudden a humanitarian disaster now after the SOB's have been running around slaughtering and beheading infidels for a couple of months? Gimmee a break... I smell "wag the dog".
I wonder if there is some bad news coming out in the next day or two about MH17? Or perhaps this will be good cover for Israel to REALLY start blowing the FK out of Gaza. Or even worse, maybe someone is getting ready to release a video of Obama and Reggie in the shower together.
Stay tuned to the continuing drama of "As the Empire Unwinds".
Sorry, but those of us who were here for 2000-01 and 2008 do not consider a 0.5% drop "market turmoil." I will check back with you at DJIA 13000.
The stench of hypocrisy and sneering immorality here is unbearable. So many parallels these days to the 1930s....the majority never learns until it is too late that they have ceded their fates to these short-sighted, self-centered nut jobs.
Ha! this is the 1930s. This same exact sqaure of Uranus /Pluto was the 1930s when Hitler and FDR came to power and spawned World War ll. Its not "like" it is the "same"
but the signs are reversed, so the roles are reversed. This time we are nazi germany and the world will rise against us.
But that is the plan too, to destroy the self rule of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
Obama is a royalist.
he loves that shit, which is why he panders to queens and kings and bows to them.
this is about the only thing I agree with the Pres. it has to be done. People here make your backhanded statements this is the only thing that can be done without leveling the mideast and all its people. If we USA dont do this we as a nation will be done.
wake up idiot.
It has to be done yes. Agree.
Just too funny this starts exactly when US oil corporations in northern IRAQ start pulling employes because of the ISIS threat.
So yes - it had to be done - but just "to protect American corporations interests".
Same as it ever was. Finance both sides, arm both sides, instigate both sides, destroy both sides, put both sides in debt, and then steal all the assets, and create more debt to rebuild.
Problem, Reaction, Solution, while the globalist elite run off to the bank with all the money.
Rinse, repeat.
Ya'll are making this too complicated. My bet is that he is doing this so he can get his slumping ratings up. He is mad that Putin and Netty look more "top" and dominant as leaders than he does. He is a hissy little bitch trying to do something that his advisors think has a chance of actually looking good and being effective. Not that I think it does.
Going directly against Putin is too scary, he is a better bluffer and chess player.
Netty ain't gonna do anyone's bidding so that's kind of fucked.
The economy is a braindead basket case zombie on fed printer life support.
Barry needs a win folks, a Hail Mary. That is all this is. Which makes it way more fucked than you are willing to allow yourself to imagine. He is that desperate because he is out of his league.
Barack Obama did what George Bush never could: get liberals on board with a US-led invasion of Iraq.
Oh dear.
Military advisor to Obama: "Mr President, yesterday's action in Iraq went slightly wrong."
Obama: "why was that?"
Military advisor: "well sir, it seems we bombed the fleeing innocents killing another 57, and the food parcels we dropped were collected by ISIS."
Obama: "so, what was wrong with that? we work with ISIS, they're our friends aren't they?"
I have ants in my house since the drought, I put out the strong kool aid. They run up and drink it and take it back to their queen like Americans have. Death is waiting for us, an ant like public.
Be gone you pests!
This explains classified ad in Iraq Post Times - "Allah Loving Women And Children Wanted To Shield Freedom Loving ISIS Warriors From Satan/Infidel American Bombs"
They are just going in to protect their oil interests as big US oil corporations start pulling their personal - which are now threatened by ISIS. It's that simple.
US oil doesn't have any claim to speak of in Iraq. The Chinese on the other hand have lots of oil interests in Iraq.
US oil companies with a stake in northern Iraq...
http://247wallst.com/energy-business/2014/06/12/u-s-oil-companies-with-t...
Exxon has agreements with the Kurds for exploration
Chevron operates an active block in the Kurdish region
Hmm, I will buy some Phillips.
The Stars have aligned!
(a fortuitous convergence that works for everyone)
1. barry lifts his ratings
2. distracts from Ukraine (not going as planned)
3. arms sales, UP!
4. stock market too!
(oh wait... you can edit that last part out, right?)
Not Debatable/ Bitchez
what? no time limited scope limited kinetic actions this time?
You idiots don't know how to understand a joke?
v Terms of endearment?
You fucking retards... Exemplify
I love Billy Joel/ but his manager makes me sleep.
I read charts Bitchez
CXome read a chart with me/ I Darebya/ Come discuss the finer points of "chart reading" k,fill
We've lost over 4000 soliders in Iraq, and countless more permanently maimed.
The cost of the 2004 war was several TRILLION dollars.
This was a primary factor causing the 2008 financial collapse.
Now this lying socialist kneegrow wants to go back for more?
What. The. FUCK!!!??
The people running the United States are criminaly insane.
NO actual socialist would ever support Obomber.
We, from the early 19th Century, have strived for social cohesion and against the destruction of societies caused by wars.
Of course Usans got brainwahed by McCarthyism and never got taught about how and why socialist, communitarian and communist parties arose during the early days of the Industrial Revolution/Capitalism.
Those who accuse Obomber of being a socialist/communist/Marxist - or even 'Islamist' are as pig ignorant (sorry pigs) as he is.
You are not wrong, 'royal', in calling the rulers of the Washington Empire insane, but you are just as insane by calling Obomber a 'socialist'.
"The cost of the 2004 war was several TRILLION dollars. This was a primary factor causing the 2008 financial collapse".
No, this was not the cause of the 2008 financial crisis.
It is debatable as to the primary factor in the 2008 crisis but it certainly wasn't government spending.
Complexity theory
Lack of over site
Criminal enterprise
Well, it was many things including government spending. The list is long, but most people glaze out when I tell them what caused it, how to fix it, and what the pain will be.
TV's on, gotta run...
For once I agree that this is the least bad out of a range of the worst options imaginable.
There's also a clear goal: protect those people in the mountains and help the peshmerga secure their territory. The US should by all means stay out of the larger conflict but has an obligation towards the Kurds and there's a strategic interest in preserving at least the Kurdish regions. The rest of Iraq is hopelessly doomed, I noticed shia militias are adopting isis tactics as well, displaying bodies and everything. Syria is now between Assad (and friends) and Isis and can fall either way (and a fall it will be).
There are two long term outcomes. One is that the Islamic state becomes real and an active belligerent state on behalf of Sunnis. They'll first cleanse out all minorities and then go after Israel as a united front. There will be much more support for that, internationally, than you would like to believe. It will cause IS affiliated groups around the world to step up and draw in more support. The middle east will then be divided along Sunni and Shi'a lines..although it's at its heart an ethnic conflict more than a religious one. Many Kurds are Sunni, many in the Lebanese army too. Many of the rebel groups isis is murdering in syria are Sunni. Much of the sentiment is Arab vs Persian (and Kurd), dressed in religion.
The other is that Assad wins in Syria and someone beats Isis in Iraq. Its actually more likely that their weak tribal alliances will disintegrate when they start losing. Then Iran will win with a whole string of satellite states dominated by Shi'a groups or allies (Hezbollah, Assad, whoever succeeds Maliki) and there will be a strong enough alliance to turn on either israel or Saudi Arabia.. Or both.
Either way, the net result is the same: the middle east descends into mass conflict and not the kind of neat, low intensity - high technology scuffles we in the west are used to.
so, operation hornet's nests , thx snowden, and the solution of the loosing control is to strike a 3rd time...?
united states of mentals...
i'm fucking brilliant.
i wrote yesterday, in case of losing control of public opinion about ukraine they would be able to self nuke kiev to solve problem, this is what they are doing now in irak !! lool this is insane !!!
"Cameron Backs US Air Strikes on Iraq"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28701642
The only unknown is whether Cameron agreed before or after it was explained to him.
Testing on live targets.
No better way to validate proof of concept in technologies.
ISIS is about to get a haircut.
None of this is good. Now stop thinking and pick a side.
It means more equipment & support to ISIS.
"... to PREVENT Genocide."
Uughh??? After USSA - along with snarling poodle lap-dog pUKe - has ALREADY genocided over 1-MILLION Iraqis?
Both of whom - along with copious "prodding" from IsraHell - are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the current disaster.
Lord Deliver Us.
The USA killed a million? Really?
Killed a million. Well, it's a start.
A 'million Iraqi's' - a figure you sucked out of the vacuum of your leftist mind by inflating the real one by a factor of nearly ten - were killed mostly by their fellow Arabs. The Necons stirred a hornet's nest by toppling the thug who at least kept some sense of order in it - they did not create the fucking nest or the nature of the hornet.
Sounds like you might need a "Refresher Course".
Here's a good start (apologies, in advance, for troubling you with the facts):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8
Passive murder now, is it? For half a million unverifiable "excess" deaths from normal causes equally sucked out of Saddam's government's thumb and repeated by do-gooding humanitarians int heir 'reports'? What will you come up with next?
Perhaps if Arab nations had ditched their primitive antihuman superstitions and shown the intellectual wherewithal to develop modern medicine and science of their own accord, they wouldn't be utterly dependent upon the Western world to keep their babies from dying as babies always had before we evil white men developed the means to lower infant mortality.
Here's a 'refresher course' for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h9w65wzsp0&list=PLPq6iUifPrJa9RMdQXe--G...
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2008/pr02/2008_iraq_family_...
Please, show me evidence of these 'excess' deaths and mortality rates.
http://d1435t697bgi2o.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Child-Mo...
You wouldn't know a fact if one grabbed you by the balls.
http://www.childinfo.org/files/MICS3_Iraq_FinalReport_2006_eng.pdf
Again, where are these 'excess' deaths and mortality rates?
"they did not create the fucking nest or the nature of the hornet"
Ummm... do you want to rethink that?
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/14/opinion/a-tyrant-40-years-in-the-makin...
http://www.representativepress.org/CIASaddam.html
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/26/us-saddam-hussein_n_3815109.html
And just what are those supposed to prove?
You think I'm referring to Saddam? Saddam was just about the best thing to happen to that God-forsaken region of the earth. I never supported war against Ba'athist Iraq or thought that it served the interests of the West.
You, on the other hand, continue to play the leftist card of blaming Mohammedan barbarism on others.
Nope, but he challenged the Money Power by going for Euros fro Oil.
I have lived and travelled in Iraq. What is happening there now is much, much worse than the media lets you on to know. While I am not a fan of Obama & Kerry - this is a step in the right direction. Air strikes (preferrably drone strikes) to wipe these extremist vermin off the face of the earth.
ISIL is, I shit you not, worse than any fucking zombie movie you have ever seen. As they roll on they grow increasingly stronger because you are either with them - or they chop your head off, eat your liver, and sell your wife and kids into slavery. They are picking up serious heavy weapons, armour and aircraft (they recently put out a call worldwide for Muslim pilots to join them). They are also making a million dollars a day selling stolen crude as well as taking the money and possessions of anyone who flees. At this rate they will be rolling into Baghdad and once that happens all bets are off in the entire Middle East.
Forget about Gaza, forget about Ukraine, the serious world threat is ISIL right now. The world should be uniting to fight those barbaric savages. Instead, Obama and Kerry are pretending to be statesmen and shaking down Russia with whom they should be siding with to fight the Radical Islamic Extremisim that is spreading like a plague across Africa and Europe.
Assad is not a great guy, but if the other option is ISIL zombies I will take Assad any day of the week.
Much of what you say is accurate.
Ukraine, IMO, is more dangerous.
Assad should get more aid from Russia to fight ISIL.
Or, Russia may find itself embroiled with them also, which I wonder is not part of a larger plan to surround the eastern/southern frontier of Russia.
However, Backdoor Barry is doing the right thing for once in 6 years.
It is ultimately up to Iran: They are THE power in the neighborhood, not the US.
Liberating Iraq 2.0 - sponsored by the western taxpayers through scamcoins like the USD and EUR.
We must be "winning" already, "the Markets" are trying to rally...strike up the band, spike down the vix, pile drive the gold and buy that fucking dip.
If these "Markets" can't rally to new highs on this they are toast... Bitchez
This is great news. When will America also authorise air strikes against Israel to prevent genocide?
When I get Circumsized, without anesthetic, by a blind Moyle with Parkinson's, on the 367th day of the year.
Certainly didn't seem to be in much hurry to help out the 10,000's of Christians that were being slaughtered and displaced over the last couple months.
Guess it was just time for another diversion.
Christians worldwide are the equivalent of white males in America... persona non grata.
I disagree that the markets are in a turmoil.
Remember the Feds are like The Outer Limits.
"We will control the vertical".
Airstrikes and food drops "to prevent genocide"..... off target by about 750 miles WSW....
I don't disagree with a thing he said. Now, about the NSA ....
Two years too late.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americas2ndrevolution/2014/08/11/warning-discussions-of-americas-survival-from-islam-1
President Obama if the Kurds Lose Arbil and massive people are killed it will be directly President Obama's fault.
Can you tell us that the food dropped got into the hands of the por people who if successful (And I doubt your information) will be their last meal! Their situation is unchanged. Obama is the worst president to have on duty. His loyalties appear far more attuned to Qatar than the kurds. The new Emir in Qatar has Mullah Omar as a military leader with him in Qatar.
Do you remember Mullah Omar Leader of the Taliban! He's had more American deaths under his leadership than any other and we just gave him his staff back!
If Arbil falls to ISIL that will signal the end of resistance to ISIL. President Obama's apparent ties with Qatar may well be the reason for his action far more than anybody or anything else. he seems reluctant to engage this massive Army.
I wonder what's more terrifying to the Iraqis: ISIS or the "America is coming to "help" Iraq?
Kidding aside, the problem with terrorists has been they are "stateless" guerilla fighters.
Now, they've got a state that should be bombed back into the stone age, but probably won't be.
The Clinton doctrine...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/07/bill-clintons-most-abominable-fre...
"Whether within or beyond the borders of a country, if the world community has the power to stop it, we ought to stop genocide and ethnic cleansing."
...that presidents are entitled to commence bombing regardless of whether their accusations against foreigners are true. As long as the US government promises great benefits from bombing abroad, presidents can usually attack who they please.
When will the next Woodstock be.....I hope they have wheelchair access..I will need it I think...getting old...its amazing how quiet the lefties are on this attack....war is good as long as a Democrat is in charge..pretty lame really...where is code pink....????
Here: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/05/heres-john-kerry-riding-a-pin...