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This Is How Putin's Advisor Sees The Ukraine Crisis Playing Out
Vladimir Putin's chief "integration" advisor, Sergei Glazyev, has been regularly featured on these pages in the past (see Putin Advisor Threatens With Dumping US Treasurys, Abandoning Dollar If US Proceeds With Sanctions and Putin Advisor Proposes "Anti-Dollar Alliance" To Halt US Aggression Abroad for two examples). So now that the Ukraine situation has once again escalated, this time with both sides openly engaged in trade war and many suggesting all-out war just over the horizon, how does Putin's advisor see the Ukraine conflict playing out?
For the answer we go to Bloomberg:
Putin has sought to lure Ukraine and its more than 40 million people into the alliance to build a trading bloc to rival the EU. Yanukovych pursued closer ties with the customs union and pulled out of an association agreement with the EU before his ouster in February. His successor, President Petro Poroshenko, signed the free-trade accord with the 28-nation bloc in June.
Russia can’t go it alone against the U.S. and must create an “anti-war coalition” to check the “aggressor,” Glazyev said.
“The point of a series of regional wars organized by the Americans, especially today’s catastrophe in Ukraine, centers on the U.S. securing control over all of north Eurasia” to bolster “its position against China,” Glazyev said. “That’s how the U.S. military and oligarchs are trying to maintain leadership in the global competition with China.”
The effort will backfire, said Glazyev, who spoke before a round of retaliatory steps announced by Russia yesterday banning food and agricultural products for one year from the U.S., the EU, Norway, Canada and Australia. The U.S.-led “economic war” against Russia will ricochet, leaving the EU to pay the steepest costs in the conflict, he said.
The trading bloc stands to lose about 1 trillion euros ($1.3 trillion), an estimate he says includes the possible bankruptcy of several European banks and companies toppled after the cutoff in financial and economic ties. An energy crisis in Europe will bring a sharp spike in prices and a loss of competitiveness for European producers. Meanwhile, Turkish, Chinese and east Asian nations will fill the void left by the departure of their European rivals from the Russian market.
The fallout will cost 250 billion euros for Germany alone while pushing the three Baltic states to the brink of an “economic catastrophe,” he said. Lithuania and Latvia will lose the equivalent of half of their entire economic output, and the cost for Estonia will reach 50 percent more than its gross domestic product, Glazyev said.
Where does that leave Russia?
“Task no. 1 is to block those threats to economic security that are now coming from the U.S., neutralize them by reducing the dependence of our external economic activity on the mercy of American politicians, whose aggressiveness threatens the entire world,” he said.
Glazyev's conclusion:
To further insulate its economy, Russia should abandon the use of the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency, according to Glazyev. Russia, which international reserves are the world’s fifth-biggest, needs to diversify its holdings to include China’s yuan, India’s rupee and Brazil’s real. “If a country aspires to reserve status for its currency, it should behave properly, and that isn’t the case today,” Glazyev said.
And this is how Putin sees the world. De-escalation? Good luck.
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The failure of American leadership in the mideast was signaled in 1979 with the downfall of the Shah. That was the warning signal that our reach exceeded our grasp. Having spent the remaining years pursuing the unobtainable-the country is financially, morally and spiritually exhausted.
JUST DUMP ALL THOSE FUCKING TREASURY'S ALL FUCKING READY!!!
ps: how bout that phony ass Silver and Gold trading all week....
There's plenty of other "scapegoats" on the list.
You think they aren't trying? Why was Cyprus taken down? And BNP Paribas? The exits have been blocked and Carrie is about to lose her freaking mind.
You're "preaching to the choir" my friend.
Not everyone gets it, Yen, or they wouldn't be asking why Russia isn't dumping treasuries.
Nixon closed the gold window- Obama dropped the iron curtain.
I haven't concluded that yet.
Too hurried a move will destabilize Russia's allies almost as much as the US.
Much as I would like to see faster action, I understand the cautious pace.
You eat an elephant, one mouthful at a time.
The West is actively trying to encircle and destroy Russia, and by this article we know Russia knows it.
Again, why was Cyprus taken down? And BNP Paribas?
If a major player wanted to dump their treasuries they missed their chance. If they ever had one.
“To have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy. Now at this very moment I knew the United States was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!"
you said that
Its who wins the war , not the battles that counts.
The Russians are slow to mount....
okeydokey.
Have you heard about these skirmishes:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-31/4-trillion-fake-euro-bonds-seiz...
4 TRILLION in "fake" bonds seized at vatican bank.
this one is good, too:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/6-trillion-us-bonds-seized-zurich
6 TRILLION in US Treasury bonds- fake naturally- seized in Zurich.
The battle has already been fought my friends... Both of you have compelling "reasoning" ... The simple fact is, demand is driven by finite resources, and NOT growth!
How many times do I need to say that the European banking system was NEVER recapitalized after 2007-08? Keep buying those Greek bonds PIMP>Ko
You guys are correct about the "rose colored lense" charts are obsolete "memes" ... but you also fail to recognize what's in your face every fuking day! Devaluation! Fractional lending!
Tyler the carat hyjacking is getting old! JFC, if we did TORT reform we'ld be flying to work in $20k pods.
I'm with you, Yen. My point is Russia isn't slow playing. The friendly game is over.
Ever seen two 7 year old boys play a board game? You'll know how this ends.
You're an articulate poster Q-A . Yes, I get it >q-a<
I see an effeminate manchild that peaked at age 15-16, playing games with a "less than polished statesman"...
Yes, I whole-heartedly agree with you Quus Ant/
Quus Ant; I'm playing catch-up, but feeling like in left field. I don't know the Treasury Bond Sales game, but know there is a register and Embassy or Designated People to track and receive US Treasuries in other countries.
Why couldn't Russia trade US Bonds to China or Japan?
This should help:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-18/china-sells-second-largest-amou...
China doesnt' want treasuries- they are dumping when and where they can.
Japan too.
Belgium is cornering the market.
Thanks, I have been following the Belgian Bulge Story for 2 months now. I did a little write up of it myself. But I don't see the official Data really showing any big change except for Belgium.
http://www.treasury.gov/ticdata/Publish/shl2002r.pdf
http://www.treasury.gov/ticdata/Publish/shla2013r.pdf
(http://www.treasury.gov/ticdata/Publish/mfh.txt)
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/international/intinv/iip_glance.htm
I didn't update the latest:
Last Data is from April 2014.
Belgium 2002 = $10.8 B, then 2013 = $163 B, Today $366 B
Cayman Islands 2002 = $10.7 B, then 2013 = $66 B, Today ??
Canada 2002 = $8.4 B, then 2013 = $46.6 B, Today $60.5 B
China 2002 = $95 B, then 2013 = $1,272 B, Today $1263 B
Hong Kong 2002 = $37 B, then 2013 = $89 B, Today $155 B
Ireland 2002 = $6 B, then 2013 = $91 B, Today $112 B
Japan 2002 = $260 B, then 2013 = $1,023 B, Today $1210 B
Luxemburg 2002 = $20.2 B, then 2013 = $107 B, Today $141 B
Philippines 2002 = $3 B, then 2013 = $36 B, Today $34 B
Poland 2002 = $7 B, then 2013 = $31 B, Today $30 B
Russia 2002 = $3 B, then 2013 = $138 B, Today $116 B
Switzerland 2002 = $28 B, then 2013 = $157 B, Today $178 B
Taiwan 2002 = $0 B, then 2013 = $183 B, Today $175 B
United Kingdom = $45.7 B, then 2013 = $130.6 B, Today $186 B
yeah china and japan dont want what they have.
funny bout the 4 trill in fakes at the vatican, since some on here think its the jesuits/vatican behind all the world's banks... you know... idiot dupes....
AS the dollar loses reserve status, eventually all those dollars are gonna come home.
inflation for sure, but deflation first? I dunno.... Bueller??
About 10 years back, South Korea and Japan's Currencies started to Rise against the Dollar. What they did was buy more US Currency or Treasuries to stop that from happening.
Any new changes over the last year in China or Japan's holdings don't seem to matter much considering the huge holdings.
China 2002 = $95 B, then 2013 = $1,272 B, Today $1263 B
Hong Kong 2002 = $37 B, then 2013 = $89 B, Today $155 B
Ireland 2002 = $6 B, then 2013 = $91 B, Today $112 B
Japan 2002 = $260 B, then 2013 = $1,023 B, Today $1210 B
Hmmm... Euroclear and BIS are coming to mind.
Yeah, seems like if you are on the outs with the Vatican or US Government it would be easy to confiscate "real" us Treasuries. Since Individuals have to report US Treasury Holdings Monthly and have to be registered, no one can pull off a scam.
But if we didn't want to redeem Russia's Treasuries, then we could refuse.
10 years ago I read that Iran & North Korea were the worlds biggest counterfeiters of US Currency. No word on if US Spy Agencies can print US Treasuries or Currency though.
There are plenty of real (HIGH value) US govt/treasury bonds out there that are not "treasuries" as you know them. Many of these don't have to be reported monthly.
With rehypothecation prevalent almost to infinity , I for one have no
idea what is counterfeit anymore. An argument in semantics only.
@Quus Ant - Re: 4 and 6 trillion in "fake" bonds...
Do some more research into those and into other "fake" bonds found in the area from 2009 until now. Go down a few rabbit holes along the way and I am sure that your entire perspective will change.
so they are or they aren't fake?
I say they aren't. They are bonds that won't be honored because they can't be honored.
If you have any information that could blow my mind lead the way. This rabbit is all ears.
Could this just be a "Planned" slow down in US & EU Labor Forces to "Cool-Off" the Economies in view of all the Money Pumping and Debt???
Kind of a "Damn the Torpedoes" approach to Economics where you say to hell with the Poor and Jobless.
American aggressiveness...... What Chutzpa!
I share Glazyev's views, except I believe that the people who dominate NATO countries are more criminally insane than can be fully comprehended. Meanwhile, the vast majority of people in North America continue to be brainwashed to believe in the banksters' bullshit, while the majority of the people in NATO counties also appear to be incompetent political idiots, which will never bother to try to understand how and why what Glazyev stated was accurate, although an understatement.
I share them as well, but I see a bit different outcome - Fracturing of NATO and destruction of the EU and the Euro. With the smaller countries near the boarder especially, the economies just can't replace sanction contraction. Even the larger nations, with Germany as the prime example, will have to break ranks with the US at come point. Once all the players pick their team it's gonna be game on.
Jim Willie calls Germany already heading for the exit. And years ago Pippa Malgrem reported Germany already had a new Dmark printed (reported ZH 26/10/2011):
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1405540920.php
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/germany-already-printing-money…-deutsche-marks
RM, I share those views as well, but would go further. It seems to me that US foreign policy is being lifted straight from Zbigniew Brzezinski. He's always had a hard-on for Russia. The goal isn't just to establish a position from which to counter China, but very specifically to break up Russia into a patchwork of small states that can be easily manipulated.
It's to the point now popcorn isn't enough; pass the bowl of crack, please.
Pass me the green herb filled bowl please its behind the 200gal tank of Jim Beam.
it's beyond crazy that the feds havent finally decided to legalize/regulate/tax weed.
I guess the drug war fatheads have a well funded lobby.
Russia is all over it.
You too. All over it, all the time. Enjoy your comments and the links you provide. Thanks!
Thank you, Jonesy.
*blushes*
This guy could be right about China. It would expalin why Barry and Holder ignore all the Mainland money laundering into RE 'cause later it will all be "confiscated" for national security reasons.
Kind of like how Japan got pantsed with the Plaza Accords. They bought all this trophy RE for big money and then it all became nearly worthless.
Putin plays chess, Obama plays dominoes
Obama's just the guy on the commercial. Putin may be too, but if he is he does a better job of hiding it.
Maybe it is all scripted, but if so the script call for Obama to play a role that would convince any sane person that he hates this country and the bulk of its inhabitants.
It's in fact a perfect on question mental-health test. If you don't see in Obama a hater, you are literally crazy or retarded.
Spot on. Most white Americans have lost the ability to think clearly about any issue where a black person's judgement is in question. Most of the rest of the country doesn't care... even the part that is here legally.
Obama is indeed a hater... his actions speak much louder than his words.
I agree, but the First Ho' is the main source of hate and resentment towards Whitey, without whom she'd probably be washing dishes in MacDonalds.
The US has become the neighbor that has opinions about everything including how you should live your life, but is always having to borrow everything in your garage and kitchen.
Once the dollar is gone we shall see a different set of behaviors all over...hopefully.
Much of the world simply sees some other power stepping into Americas shoes as the hegemon. It is entirely possible that a new monetary system could leave the role of 'reserve asset' filled by gold and then the currencies of individual countries could be used internally and across border if the 2 countries have currency swap agreements. This would leave the role of money hegemon vacant.
That would be the best option ,although I'm sure not the planned one.
My gut sense plus rational brain tell me that a switch toward a basket of RRCs (Regional Reserve Currencies) will be the case, and is already happening. Sorry, Jim Rickards, but the US Neocons have gone too far and the SDR is dead. To quote another doctor: "It's dead, Jim, it's dead!"
IMHO, the "Trigger Event" for 'USD dethroning as the GRC' will be when the global usage of the USD drops to 49.9% (from present 60%). After that, things will happen FAST, and American Joe Public will be blind-sided or unable to mitigate, most likely.
That's a total of 9 RRCs (USD, CNY, EUR, RUB, BRL, INR, JPY, GBP, ZAR) that I see taking shape, and which represent all continents. Libertarians, please note that South Africa's currency is the Rand (ZAR). Thought you'd like that. ;-) It's only fair and rational that RRCs be correlated to the national GDP:
* GDP, Nominal by country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29
GDP Per Person, by country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
p.s. Note that nouveau-riche types (shady oligarchs, drug/crime lords, etc) will not only avoid the USD, but will avoid the CAD also -- since Harper and Canada are now totally "America's lap-dog". Therefore, expect the CHF and HKD to be more popular for "discrete" people than the CAD.
The USA cannot recover lost political and economc ground. Its only hope therefore is to destabilize Russia and China.
It is all downhill from here no matter what.
US dreams of WW2 days when all of its rivals bombed eachother into oblivion, paving way for Bretton Woods and opening international markets to American-made goods.
Only, this time if an all out war breaks out, the sucker will be nuclear.
Imagine the legitimate use clause being used against us just like in Japan. Let's pretend this time China is on the offiensive.
- Well, we had to do it to save lives. It was clear the ground invasion of America wasn't going to work with 2nd Amendment and all, so we had to kill 100+ million to save a billion Chinese lives. Them Jerry-Chen's just wouldn't surrender! We tweeted the ultimatum twice, and there was not a single hashtag response.
Let one of'em similar-sounding quotes go into history books for another 100 years, echoed by future politicians and generals. Let there be stories of brave Chinese men and women liberating poor ethnic minorities from white businessman capitalist master race.
And don't the remaining survivors dare to say a word back or look the wrong way at any of the Chinese bases set up in each of the 50 former States.
If nuking Japan was alright to save lives faced with a possibility of bloody land invasion, wouldn't you also agree that America would also be very hard to invade for anyone who dared. So, it's settled. Nukes it is!
"If nuking Japan was alright to save lives faced with a possibility of bloody land invasion"
OH PUHLEEZE!! Japan was nuked TWICE in the summer of 1945. WWII was already over for all intents and purposes.There was NO possibility of any fucking land invasion.
The reason Japan and not Germany got bombed was that Russkies beat us to Berlin by 3 months before the multi-billion dollar (in 1940's money) Manhattan Project was finished.
The reason 2 bombs were dropped, not 1, 5 or 20 had nothing to do with the surrender ultimatum. There were simply 2 bombs physically built. From the get go, the scientists wanted to use enriched uranium which was plentiful in raw form but needed refinement. It took over 3 years to collect enough of it using all available resources in America. Higher potency, but more rare plutonium bomb was commissioned as a backup, in case they didn't collect enough primary fuel.
... yet with all the effot, both bombs still weren't ready when needed. By the time the last scews went into little boy and fat man, Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt were already done carving up Germany and shipping out their war trophies.
The war was over, but the battle of oportunity continued. US was allowed to pound decimated Japan while Britain cleaned up Middle East, and Russia advanced South-East as far as Korea.
We say: "War didn't end with Hitler. It ended with Japan." Well, in that case, it didn't end with Japan either. Russia kept "fighting" for 2 whole weeks after Mamoru Shigemitsu signed the documents aboard USS Missouri.
Hitler was a boogeyman who needed to be kept alive just a little while longer. That suicide almost messed up our plan, but in hindsight, who cares! We got to write our own history books anyway.
Japan was planning to send 'fire balloons' into the jetstream above the Pacific to bomb the US mainland. Littleboy and Fatman were the 'disproportional response' technique that the Israelis have learned so well. Since 311 Japan is having the last laff.
The decision to glasspark Hiroshima and Nagasaki was also to demonstrate to the rest of the world that the US was the baddest Mutha on the planet (having already firebombed Japan's civillian populations mercilessly), and to oneup Britain's Dresden show. Being the baddest MF on the planet paved the way for 900 bases worldwide and Global Reserve Currency. The treasury however is now empty, and like other empires before, this usually signifies the endgame. What will wounded beast do in it's death-throes, with the planet's largest weapons cache? A final Sampson Option endgame? Moar moar 'shock and awe'?
The devolution will not be able to be televised.
By design
If we can control all the energy sources in that region we can stay on top for awhile. Resource wars!
Ungrateful commies. We have them a free and democratic coup with a shitload of IMF money and they want to side with these Ed snowden loving elected fucks in Moscow?
Put the iron curtain back up we don't need this shit.
How about the next false flag with something along the lines of: "Vella Gulf sunk of the coast of Sochi. Obama: We must act to rid the world of evil..."
Complete bullshit. Sergei Glazyev is the Russian Jay Carney.
He agrees with American strategists.
The Project for the New America Century
"Elements of US Army Europe should be redeployed to Southeast Europe, while a permanent unit should be based in the Persian Gulf region."
Yes, Bullshit. From sea to shining sea.
I'm not informing you what I was and what I did, I am telling you what I am as it affects your future if you don't get smart right NOW.
"Come with me if you want to live....." -Felix the Cat
Perrty much. And "Israel Attacks !"stands out too.
Looks like there's a STORM a brewin!
Jay Carney is the Russian Jay Carney.
“If a country aspires to reserve status for its currency, it should behave properly, and that isn’t the case today,” Glazyev said.
The most important statement from his speech and the only one that matters most!
Why won't the U.S. learn from it's mistakes and just rebuild it's currency status the way the Russians did after the fall of the U.S.S.R.?
Problem solved!
Blinded by their own power and cannot fathom the thought that they might be wrong
It's not what the Deep State (The Shadow Government, The Power Behind The Throne) wants.
Like the damn Borg, they only know Total World Control, via Full Spectrum Domination. By ANY and ALL means necessary. They will NOT stop, until they are stopped.
The good news is... that they can be stopped, because their numbers are small (<2%) and they are, by necessity of these number, so highly leveraged in their power and wealth. They use the amplifying effect of the Media, the Fed/Finance, and Politics to retain power over the 98%. And NO demographic group (even the 'Chosen/self-Chosen People') may not be represented in the Halls of Power & Influence by more than their statistically fair share -- if real checks & balances are to be kept.
The bad news is... that you've got to discard all the distorted notions they taught you at Sunday School or Public School. Forget "Turning the other cheek", forget "unconditional love". They've morphed into pretexts/cover for "Unconditional Aid" and "Asymmetric Aid". It's high time for "Quid Pro Quo": Value for Value, and Reciprocity for Reciprocity, or all bets are off.
"Forget "Turning the other cheek", forget "unconditional love". They've morphed into pretexts/cover for "Unconditional Aid" and "Asymmetric Aid". It's high time for "Quid Pro Quo": Value for Value, and Reciprocity for Reciprocity, or all bets are off."
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Kirk
Rules to live by if you not only want to succeed but more importantly earn and retain the respect of your business associates long term!
Not sure I understand you, so allow me to reframe my position on sound, long-term and personal and business relationships.
I learned and believe that:
- Trust, Respect and Loyalty are earned.
- Quid pro Quo (value for value, this for that)
- Reciprocity (You want a mosque in our country, and practice you faith openly? Fine, we'll build a Church in yours, and practice our faith in yours.)
- Nothing wrong with being Liked. But it is better to be Trusted and Respected than Liked. W/o those two, the Liking or Love won't last anyway.
- Being matters more than Having. You can lose your Stuff (disaster, health, theft), but they can't steal your Character.
- Practice Courtesy and good Manners, and demand the same, but don't confuse them with genuine Kindness.
- Truth is like Salt, Lies are like Pepper, and Libido-love is like Sugar. You need them all, but too much of any is bad for you.
- Add Value and Equity to the bank account of all relationships. You need to put funds in, to take them out or earn an ROI. A friend or partner is as a friend or partner does.
- There are many forms of Courage: Physical courage, Financial courage, Emotional courage, Civil courage. Learn to be proficient and fit in all forms. Few people are.
That's enough for today. It's Friday night on the West Coast. Happy Hour! Now... where's Mrs Kirk with that drink and two-lips that she promised? (Two-lips for tulips. Example of Quid Pro Quo).
Thnx Kirk, enjoy yr posts... Jim Beam up...
"Why won't the U.S. learn from it's mistakes and just rebuild it's currency status"
The banking mafia want their economic cake in China (because they make more money that way) but at the same time want their military cake in America. The only way to have both is to effectively force the rest of the world to pay tribute to fund the military which is what the reserve currency and petrodollar provides - tribute.
In Gallup Poll, The Biggest Threat To World Peace Is...America?
https://prod01-cdn01.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/08/iraq11...
Taken from the slightly out of thread context from here
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/08/08/us-bombing-iraq-redundant-...
More like "America's friends"...closely followed by "the Americans."
WE DIDN'T START THIS THING PILGRIM BUT WE SURE AS HECK ARE GONNA END IT!
Yup, like I said... It comes down to who get "there" first: DOLLAR'S END-RUN vs. DOLLAR-ENDS RUN!
A. Russia leads the charge to de-Dollarize and dethrone the USD from its GRC Eagle's Nest - before the US Neo/Zio-cons "attack" Russia, or...
B. If the US Neo/Zio-cons can prevent the EU from pivoting toward Asia and away from the Anglo-American Alliance, using Russia as The Patsy/Villain.
Fiat Currency & Debt, Gas, Oil, Trade, the MIC and regional politics are the means to America's Big Game of global control and their NWO. Strategic Planning might go on in DC, but Strategic Intent goes on in NY and Tel Aviv.
The Five Eyes (US, UK, Canada, Australia, NZ) are all synched up, and serve only One Master. We know where the British Bulldog stands. The French are schizo: pro-US and pro-EU, which is not always the same. The Germans are trying to be adult about it, but only with limited success with their High-Wire act. Eventually even Mutti will have to come down to earth and make concrete decisions as to what's best for Germany and the EU: Be America's house-dog or Germany's Shepherd.
Dude, task number 1 was not to commit treason against your own country by sending all the manufacturing to fucking China in the first place. Now the world has to find a way to arrest all these dumb fucks before they destroy everything.
Calling George Bush Sr. You are going down in history as a whack job even before you are dead M'Fer.
I don't think these people were/are dumb fucks at all. They knew exactly what they were doing and why. That's not to say they won't totally fuck everything up.....
It all has to be understood in a much broader geopolitical context: delinking, decolonization, dewesternization (and the effort to re colon/westen/link).
See: Mignolo, Maldonado Torres, Rivera Cusicanqui et al on BRICS, MINT and Latin America.
http://criticallegalthinking.com/2012/05/02/delinking-decoloniality-dewe...
http://criticallegalthinking.com/2012/03/21/neither-capitalism-nor-commu...
http://www.decolonialtranslation.com/english/maldonado-on-the-colonialit...
http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=Ghah5S3usnsC&pg=PA508&lpg=PA508&dq=r...
Putin, from where I'm standing, and whatever his faults, continues to be the only adult in the room.
i knew i should have take the blue pill.
Newsflash: Russia is corrupted basket case country, way more than USSA (although USSA is catching up quickly). But GRU agent Durden wouldn't want to write that, would he...
Russia is just taking its first steps after waking up from a drunken slumber. A bit hazy and confused but if allowed will regain its vigor. The question is what kind of Russia will then emerge? Americans and eastern Europeans don't seem too interested in finding out.
Russia is a bigger police state than USSA. Alexa statistics betray that the vast majority of ZH visitors live in the USSA and therefore have likely never lived in a second-world country. The Russian oligarchs are no different than the American ones, and every victory for Russia, or for USSA, is a victory for unaccountable business interests.
Putin and Obama don"t give two shits about freedom, income inequality, or anything else. Putin is far from the Savior on the White Horse messiah figure many here judge him to be.
Obviously you have never been to Russian or any of the former USSR
, for example Kazakhstan, financial freedom there leaves the US in the dust,plus the food is much healthier, even fast food.
BTW financial freedom is freedom period!
kazakh women are super hot and slutty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Cl8lSv9Is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2nNtynZAiI
Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85 %The Jewish War On Vladimir Putin
Can The Jews Stop Putin?BUT...
Examine, if you would, your premises. As to the referenced Rabbi Schneerson...
weird about the rebbe schneerson having an honor day...
I judge people by their actions, not their words, most particularly politicians. Putins actions and measured temperence speaks for itself, Obama is a destructive Zionist autobot cloaked in the type of cheap charm that only works on the most dumbed down of individuals.
potato, -- don't be such a sour grapes. The jew tribe had the blood and wealth of Russia to feast on for 70 years. Because of their hubris, the final wealth of the world slipped from their grasp. Without bloodshed too, so give an earnest prayer of thanksgiving for that, and accept your losses.
"Russia is a bigger police state than USSA"
Don't you see? It has to be. Russia is fighting the CIA which has a budget of $50 billion a year.
That requires more of a police state than the USA has because the FSB's budget is just a fraction of the US's.
I disagree - more money means more police state, not less. No money for the State results in a laissez-faire, libertarian society. Laws without the technical and logistical means to enforce them are meaningless. The money provides the technical and logistical means...
I suppose you are right.
more money means more police state,
And the US is the biggest police state. The CIA, FBI, NSA all have their own budgets. And are not under the same constraints as the FSB is -- to be very visable.
The FSB lets everyone know it will knock heads together. Their reputation is part of their effectiveness.
The FBI will shoot you in the back seven times. And no charges will be filed. The US MSM will carry the story a day or two and then the 'memory hole'.
Like you said, the more money, the more police state.
While I agree that Russia is much weaker than the US and that their corruption is at least as bad, if not worse, it is ironically that very weakness which leads to a greater trust of Russia. Russia does not have the capacity for causing world trouble that the US does. If they had the capacity, would they use it? Probably. But because they don't (and they know it), they are in the position of needing to put forth a more defensive and "ally against the greater evil" approach. Thus the Russians are more trustworthy in the current geopolitical context than are the US.
Don't you guys see the signs of our time? Like every empire going down and USA is going faaaaast.
Looks like the more advanced the technology faster and faster empires rise and fall.
Interestingly, someone here in a post the other day referenced Sir John Glubb's treatise, "The Fate of Empires." Glubb posited that Empires tend to last about 10 generations. They don't always fall in obvious ways, or they turn into something else, but that roughly 250 year period pretty much captures the arc of foundation, ascent, and decline.
Are we there yet?
The welfare state is pretty much the final nail in the decadence coffin.
(I'm still waiting on nationalized healthcare, tho')
The welfare state or unbridled plutocracy?? Which is it espirit?
"Glubb examined eleven empires over a timespan of almost 3,000 years, from Assyria to the British Empire, and found that each followed an astoundingly similar path of growth and decline.
He found that empires have a lifespan of about ten human generations, two hundred and fifty years, and that changing technology and methods of warfare do not affect this life expectancy.
Glubb also found that empires were remarkably consistent in their growth and decline, moving through six readily identifiable stages, which he called the Age(s) of Pioneers, Conquest, Commerce, Affluence, Intellect and Decadence.
About the USA, Glubb wrote: “The United States arose suddenly as a new nation, and its period of pioneering was spent in the conquest of a vast continent, not an ancient empire. Yet the subsequent life history of the United States has followed the standard pattern … the periods of the pioneers, of commerce, of affluence, of intellectualism and of decadence.”
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“As the nation declines in power and wealth, a universal pessimism gradually pervades the people, and itself hastens the decline … Frivolity is the frequent companion of pessimism … The resemblance between declining nations in this respect is truly surprising … The Roman mob, as we have seen, demanded free meals and public games … Gladiatorial shows, chariot races and athletic events were their passion. In the Byzantine Empire, the rivalries of the Greens and the Blues in the hippodrome attained the importance of a major crisis … The heroes of declining nations are always the same – the athlete, the singer or the actor.”
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/14/john-bagot-glubb/
Good Stuff. Click that link.
And Oscar Wilde said:
"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between."
Considering the Regime Changes and the Drone strikes, I think the "Barbarism" is still alive.
Can we consider this a "Barbarism and Decadence" kind of a Decline?
I'd argue that Bieberism is decadence. Oh, sorry.
All thats going to happen now is a greater push for the US-EU trade agreement that stalled.
Now the US has leverage with the EU, sign the agreement or suffer DOOM.
I thought that Russians were good at chess?
putin's been around the world signing deals..i suppose argentina, brazil, chile could supply much of the produce needed, grain, as russians love bread may come from south america, possibly other produce will come through middlemen (israel is often happy to act as broker). exxon seems to be committed to russia, the arctic most particularly but other russian ventures as well. BP is still trying to hold on, and apparently shell and statoil. i suppose some produce could flow into russia through other BRICs. putin i don't believe would have placed sanctions on food stuffs he didn't feel assured could be accessed one way or another. we really live in such fascinating times. certainly, other WW's and empire collapses were stunning but this encompasses everything: fukushima, population, plague, resources, finances, political...etc.
Actually....The U.S. Department of Agriculture expects Russia to rank as the world’s fifth-largest corn exporter this season ending Sept. 30, with sales of 3.5 million metric tons, the agency saidMay 9. Russia delivers corn to Spain, Italy, Germany and the Netherlands, Rylko said.
Russia's grain exports are expected to reach 25 million tonnes in 2014/15 marketing year, which started on July 1, Fyodorov told reported in Moscow on Thursday.
Exports in 2013/14 were 25.4 million tonnes with most grain shipped to the Middle East, Africa and Asian countries.
"These countries are friendly to us... That's why everything is quite predictable for us on the grain market and grain exports," Fyodorov said.
The largest buyers of Russian wheat in 2013/14 (July/June) were Egypt, Turkey, Yemen and Iran. Turkey and South Korea were the most important markets for maize (corn) while Saudi Arabia took more than half its barley exports.
GGX
thank you, highly interesting.
Plus, and it's a big plus, it's all non GMO.
The following has been scrambled to avoid raising any NSA/FEMA/FBI/TSA/BATF/DHS/AIPAC red-flags:
The Regime is Obama Operation a Rogue.
Sorry, just their initials will trigger the flag.
Cold War 2.0: New evidence that the US are trying to surround ChinaChina is certainly the ultimate target. Has been since it came out of hibernation. Russia has to be taken out first to give a clear run without distractions.
They could not even take over a non industrial minimal form of organized military and government structure in HALF OF Vietnam, could not even install a pro-western puppet regime in any Middle Eastern nation for any concrete or legitimate period of time...
We have zero chance at defeating either Russia or China let alone both when we are the most babifed civilization focused on tweets facebook and reality shows laser pointed on political correctness and not manufacturing and end results.
It's over for us until we have a revolution. That will come when the fascists attempt to purge the herd who do not bow... Not far away.. Evil and ruling over the few is inherent in mankind and always had been .. Now for the first time we will see it with a frightening technological overlay..
And that is why the Constitution was and is so important ..it was the creation of a document intended to ever prevent that from occurring again..
It wont..but America 2.0 is gonna rock..
The plan is to surround and control China's supply lines.
Control them, control China.
it just occurred to me, if rosneft gazprom need funds to operate...china could be requested to sell UST and give russia a loan. if china is actually the target such a loan/sale may have a double effect.
Under the "Last Nation Standing" concept Europe might be a very weak link. While many nations fall into the weak group contagion might bring us all down. We are all interconnected for better or worse. A bad apple can spoil the whole basket. Welcome to the world our leaders have designed or allowed to form. Whether by design or merely as a byproduct of globalization we have weaved a web of financial transactions that circle the globe.
Over the last several years as money was printed by the central Banks it was not contained in the countries where in was printed. This money flowed across borders influencing and distorting markets and prices across the world. Some people have been calling for a "world currency" for years. the saying "one should never let a good crisis go to waste" means that a meltdown with high levels of fear would present a perfect opportunity and catalyst to advance this agenda down the field. Remember many people with agendas have a lot to gain when a major shift in the currency markets takes place. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/02/contagion-may-lead-to-new-world-c...
Russia's message, as told by Glazyev in this particular example, is incredibly toxic for America's position on the global stage!
Why? Because the message is so true, and resonates so powerfully amongst the very powers that Russia is assembling around itself in an anti-American strategic axis. This bodes very ill for America - and not in 25 years - but now and next year as these powers form an axis to counterbalance and constrain the U.S.
This is high geopolitical drama unfolding before our eyes - and it's going to be a win for Russia et al very soon indeed.
Obama hides this ... Will Putin unhide it?
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1246837
I see leverage.
Good for stawks tho! YAY!
Putin has very tough competition in signing deals with other countries.
The Statesman of the Century, the honorable centurion of freedom John Kerry, whose speeches rival the Syrens, and who has more diplomatic skill in his pinky finger than the entire planet Earth...
Very tough competition indeed. He should be scared.
Actually, it 's you, potato, who should be scared.
You must know how good potatoes taste when they're dripping with Heinz Ketchup.
Heinz Ketchup is only good for making industrial shit food edible. Potatoes need butter
If Glazev is correct and
"today’s catastrophe in Ukraine, centers on the U.S. securing control over all of north Eurasia” to bolster “its position against China,”
then, even though you're not reading about it in the NY Times or seeing it discussed on FOX tv, we have another comparison to the 100 Year Birthday War, the one to end all wars.
We have another "Blank Check".
China doesn't want any other nation, least of all America, "securing control" and "bolstering its position" against China.
And the best way to do that is to destabilize the economies of America's allies.
Therefore, China probably has given Russia an unlimited draw on her $2 trillion fund of American dollars (which half the gang here at ZH would like to see denied its status as reserve currency). Because Russia is a major trading partner of America's European allies.
And if Russia and Europe halt trading with each other, China's eventually worthless funds will keep Russia afloat. The US Congress is far too deep in denial about realpolitik to do the same.
China knows that if the USD looses it reserve currency status, ITS HORDE OF THEM WILL LOSE ITS VALUE. MAYBE HALF ITS VALUE.
SO CHINA MIGHT AS WELL SPEND IT NOW IN AUGUST 2014 ON A FOOL PROOF PLAN TO CAUSE ECONOMIC PAIN TO THOSE NATIONS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO BE TIED TO THE APRON STRINGS OF AMERICA.
Interesting comments. This bit is certainly and understandably true:
"China doesn't want any other nation, least of all America, "securing control" and "bolstering its position" against China."
And why would it or should it be otherwise?
"And why would it or should it be otherwise?
Because the Pentagon so decreed.
Glazyev said it in his post. I condensed it.
As China becomes stronger through and the US becomes more dependant of the advice of the Kerrys and the Nulands, China will ignore Washington's bombast or pay it back by claiming all of the South China Sea
BTW I never thought that China and Russia were ever at odds with each other. That border dispute was a pretense to prevent the rabid anti-Communist US military from a preemptive strike against either.
If you read the history of that dispute, you will see that that Russian build-up on the Amur mirrored the US build-up in South Vietnam. And when America finally threw in the towel, the Russian tanks were back on their rail cars headed west.
The American timetable in Vietnam.
June 8, 1969 - President Nixon meets South Vietnam's President Nguyen Van Thieu at Midway Island and informs him U.S. troop levels are going to be sharply reduced. During a press briefing with Thieu, Nixon announces "Vietnamization" of the war and a U.S. troop withdrawal of 25,000 men.
July 8, 1969 - The very first U.S. troop withdrawal occurs as 800 men from the 9th Infantry Division are sent home. The phased troop withdrawal will occur in 14 stages from July 1969 through November 1972.
The Russian/Chinese timetable for the removal of Russian troops along the Ussuri.On March 29, 1969, the Soviet government delivered the declaration to the Chinese embassy in Moscow regarding Sino-Soviet relations, which began with a consideration of recent events on the Ussuri.... Moscow at the end of the declaration invited the government of the Chinese People's Republic to abstain from all action along the frontier that "would risk bringing about complications", and called upon Peking to resolve any differences "in calm and by means of negotiations".....Peking in its April report to the congress acknowledged receipt of the Soviet offer and said that "our government is considering its reply to this"....On May 12, Peking announced that it had sent a message to the Soviet Union accepting in principle the Soviet proposal for resumption of the work of the mixed commission for the regulation of traffic on the border rivers and proposing that the date be fixed for mid-June. Moscow agreed, naming June 18 as the exact date.
Why the false altercation at the the Amur and Ussuri?
It was barely a dozen years since the US fought the North Koreans to a draw and they were back in south-east Asia making trouble for Vietnam.
No one could say how the war in Vietnam would end; but if it ended badly for the North, there was every reason to believe the US would continue its campaign onto and up the Korean peninsula.
It is certainly true that Russia and China had border disputes there before as early as the 17th century. But it is also true that the contested bend in the Amur River is less than 500 miles away from the Sino- North Korean border.
21 soviet divisions and arms pretending to be aimed at the Chinese, but waiting for William Westmoreland to liberate Pyongyang
The Tet offensive made this charade needless.
Sorry for the length of this.
Funny you should mention that...
"The Russian Central Bank is not giving precise details on the size of the currency swaps, nor when it will be launched. It says this will depend on demand.
According to the bank, the agreement will serve as an additional instrument for ensuring international financial stability. Also, it will offer the possibility to obtain liquidity in critical situations."
If you want to be in charge of the world's reserve currency, you have to be the impartial banker to global trade and investment flows.
If you become banksters like what they do to their own nations, Is it a surprise that those who hold the reserve currency will engineer for allternatives ? They can be usurped by their own nationals if they lose the hard earned reserves too.
This is economic self defense.
"If you want to be in charge of the world's reserve currency..." you really ought not to be printing it like there's no tomorrow and giving it to all your banks.
No?
The only way an economy loses hard earned reserves is if the 'Emperor's old reserve currency' joins the Weimar mark and the Hungarian Pengo in The Currency Hall of Shame.
Haven't crunched the numbers, but would assume China has an agreement to hold onto a large amount of US debt (until the time is ripe) in return for gold being kept in the $1300 range whilst they buy buy buy BTFD, directly, but more covertly through 3rd parties. When the reset happens, their enormous accumulation of physical will be more than enough to 'cover' the fiat paper losses. Finger on pulse here: and despite the repetetive mantras - even the oldtimers and pros are having trouble coming to terms with how long the manipulation has been effective - there are nuggets to be found: http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/KWN_DailyWeb.html
This reminds me of the Indian fable of the six blind men and the elephant. One felt the ear, one felt the tail, one felt the leg etc. and they all described an elephant differently.
Now we're all looking at the same problem. One sees it as Wall Street, one sees it as Islam terrorism, one sees it maintaining the dollar as the reserve currency, another sees it as the gold market.
I see it as global oil reserves. And the Pentagon's ambition about global oil reserves.
As none of us have a crystal ball and as there's no place to run or hide, the only thing we can really say is
BARTENDER!
Wow, leaders who are tough and are able to think...When was the last time the US saw the likes of such men?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DT7bX-B1Mg
And it's gone (original)
and so is the equity on his dad's house...
I sort of agree with Sergei Glazyev's comments but it looks like he underestimates the lengths and tactics that the neo-con criminals running USG (and its obedient allies like Briatin) will go to to prevent the collapse of the USD empire and global power & control. Plans are almost certainly in place for a hot war against Russia to neutralise it before taking on China. What we are seeing so far is simply the drumbeats and march to war. More to come until at some point the USG is ready to press the GO button. Possibly a false flag or some other manufactured incident blown out of all proportion will be used as a justifiable trigger. Several months or several years? Who knows. The march has begun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWT5HM_NMlI
Sergei Glazyev on Ukraine 2 months ago... hot war with Russia.
UR: Thanks for that, it's a very interesting video. I now feel more confident that he and Putin have a better understanding than this article suggests of the sinister gameplan being played out by Washington, several Western allies and its puppets in Kiev.
Smacker: "I now feel more confident that he and Putin have a better understanding than this article suggests of the sinister gameplan being played out by Washington..."
OK, but what is Putin doing about it? The war in Eastern Ukraine is winnable, but I don't see Russia pushing to victory. I don't see heavy weaponry (especially anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons) being sent to pro-Russian forces in the numbers required. And I don't see him openinig the border to allow Russians, Russian Cossaks and Chechens in to join the fray. If the Ukrainian army has a breakthrough and decimates Strelkov and his people, it's curtains. Good that Putin and Galzyev "get it," but what are they doing?. Embargos on French cheese are nice, but will not win the war.
Congress of Vienna
Concert of Europe
Holy Alliance
Crimean War
League of Three Emperors
Russo-Turkish War
Bolshevik Revolution
Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact
This has been going on a long time, and there have been a whole bunch of Rinse, Repeat cycles.
Ukraine is a side show, not a priority. The situation just has to be kept in check. The big boys are playing for much larger stakes.
Well of course, if you were to ask Western political elites, they'd say that Putin is already supplying East Ukie with weapons and misc hardware. And he probably is in small numbers.
In my view, Putin is being slow in his response to Kiev's onslaught. This is almost certainly due to (a) him wanting to avoid a mass propaganda campaign that would be launched by Western govs and MSM accusing him of "illegally annexing" East Ukie, (b) the people of East Ukie (unlike Crimea) do not actually want to join Russia but simply want to become independent of Ukraine. According to new reports they have voted along these lines. And (c) such action might provoke NATO getting involved even though Ukie is not a member.
That said, Putin has been building up his forces on the East Ukie-Russian border, so he may be preparing to do "something". His strategy could only be classed as a failure if Ukraine and/or NATO actually take over East Ukie. His options then fall to zero.
My likely uniformed take on all this is that Putin is playing the "Stalingrad" game in Donetsk. Not a bad model if you think about it, but it sure will wreak havoc on Donetsk real estate and inhabitants.
It interesting thing is that Lugansk is in much better shape and is more or less not in very much danger right now, and has much more secure rear access to the Russian border (I wonder if there is any connection?).
If the Stalingrad game is truly on, Poroshenko is delusional if he thinks "Donetsk will fall any minute now". If the Russians have done their homework Donetsk will remain a festering sore in the Ukraine side and bleed them dry, at little cost to Russia itself if Putin can avoid the NATO trap. Operations in Ukraine will suck up a *lot* of Yellin's printing (perhaps the point of all of this) but in the process, the EU economy will flatline starting with the newest Eastern States on the Baltic.
I hope the Europeans have lots of warm clothes...
I think you are spot on.
If the US's intention was to destabilise countries on Russia's borders to put Russia on the back foot, it looks as if it is going to backfire.
Its the US's and its allies that are going to suffer a running military sore plus have to support the bankrupt Kiev government.
Yes, I think that's a good take on Putin 'keeping his powder dry'. Tried to find that link that I read a couple of months ago that tied the IMF loans to Porko winning back Donbask region, but could only come up with the region as industrial driver of Ukraine, therefore ability to pay back loans - (hahahahaha). Am sure Putin's suffering hard to be sacrificing Rus blood in East Ukraine, and is also being called a chickenshit for not intervening militarily. This embedded clip is interesting, not sure which side of the propaganda fence it was made on, but the explanation is easily digestible:
http://therussophile.com/the-reasons-why-russia-will-not-invade-ukraine....
Almost a certainty given their record
Hope and change! That's just what we need...one of the most uplifting articles on ZH in some time!
When will Russia start informing Americans about the 9/11 lies?
The Dumbocrats ought to use Repukelican complicity with 911 if they ever want to win the election....and then we get another 911: Hillary Clinton as Prez -an even worse disaster propagated again, by Israel
You have to read this closely. This is the deescalation, Putin style. Brash language but carefully worded. The offer to defuse this has been on the table from the start. Stop expanding NATO right up to the Russian border. A neutral Ukraine and Europe needs to step out of the shadow of the US.
I strongly suspect European leaders will read it like this and will deal with Russia on their own terms, in private. If Putin plays it smart he'll ignore the EU and just talk to the countries, making sure the EU common foreign policy never gets off the ground.
The US definitely only gets a lot of vitriol and hate from Russia. I think that relationship is definitely soured. Try again when putin retires, maybe. Now that is one you lay on Obama's doorstep. Under Bush relationships were better than ever. Lavrov and Condi sneaking out of negations to catch the ballet together. So cute. Bush and Putin had chemistry so they got shit done. I think there was a period where Russia was really trying to cooperate with the US and the west, but has ended feeling betrayed by it...so now we're back to square one.
Bush was pretty bad, but Obama has turned out to be an absolute disaster.
This situation with Ukraine is a disaster too, because the Russians have been on point and played their game dirty, but smart and effective. Meanwhile the west can't even bring itself to give their people any insight into what's going on..so were just left with our black markers here, drawing Hitler moustaches on Putin pics.
Fuck it, I'm still positive. I'm not a statist, it's all bullshit. I'm betting on the economic collapse of China followed by a civil war. That would fuck up everybody's plans. Black swan, bitxhez.
the 'de-escalation' word was not used by the russians. bloomberg used the word.
bloomberg creates the fiction and you all argue about it all day. lol
cows chewing their cud
and the rest of the world moves on laughing at the dumb f*ck americans.
wake up.
So Obomber is going to the mat over this... the unitended consequence is that countries conclude "We will never be in this situation again." The empire is in decline.
"So Obomber is going to the mat over this"
yeah on his knees.
Tax cuts are the answer.
looked like the FDD, led by Clifford May
and the NED - led by Carl Gershman
and the rest of the "pro-democracy" outfits led by members of the same club...
have their work cut out for them in helping "Yats" and Nudelman, I mean Nuland shephard the poor Christian Ukrainians into a brighter tomorrow, no? Maybe fellow club member Larry Diamond, or one of the "Ukrainian" oligarchs can help produce another "I am a Ukrainian" youtube video?
For the children, of course.
of course... The European and American public are being systematically lied to about the Ukraine crisis.
Meanwhile OUR tax dollars are being stolen from us by the Billions to fund ISRAEL and the NAZI government in the UKRAINE
When you write "brighter tomorrow", how much brighter do you mean, like how many kilotons brighter ?