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Caught On Tape - Drone Video Of US Airstrikes On ISIS

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From a drone's perspective, the moment the US started war with The Islamic State...

 

 

The US Navy released the clip above:

Two U.S. Navy F/A-18 Super Hornets assigned to Carrier Air Wing 8 embarked on USS George H. W. Bush (CVN 77) struck Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant targets near Erbil, Iraq.

 

The F/A-18s dropped 500 pound laser-guided bombs against ISIL artillery targets. Bush is operating in the Arabian Gulf on a scheduled deployment to U.S. 5th Fleet.

 

The president has authorized U.S. Central Command to conduct military operations in support of humanitarian aid deliveries and targeted airstrikes in Iraq to protect U.S. personnel and interests, in response to activities conducted by Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) terrorists.

 

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Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:15 | 5070097 observer007
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President Obama provides an update on the United States' military action in Iraq and the broader humanitarian crisis.

Latest on ISIS

 HERE:

http://tersee.com/#!q=isis&t=text

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:35 | 5070161 Publicus
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More taxpayer money down the drain.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:49 | 5070206 Liberal
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As a staunch liberal, I was totally against Bush killing Arabs.

But I don't mind Obama killing Arabs...and Americans. With drones! I think it's kinda cool now.

Cool!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:54 | 5070226 TahoeBilly2012
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Coming to Idaho and Montana in about 2 years...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:01 | 5070253 Manthong
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On one hand, it seems we are blowing up our own munitions, but then on the other hand it’s just a shame the clowns on the ground didn’t know what hit them.

Has anybody ever been awarded two Nobel Peace Prizes?

Maybe the sardine suckers  at the Kungl Vetenscapsakmedien should rethink their process.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:06 | 5070275 Keyser
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THe MIC doesn't care who pulls the trigger on the munitions, as long as someone does so they can sell more freedom!!!!

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:37 | 5070327 ZerOhead
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Can we just first figure out what team 'Abu Bakr' (who is clearly anybody but Abu Bakr) currently plays for please?

And even more important... WHO EXACTLY he actually is?

Anyone?

ISIS Leader 'Al-Baghdadi' Is A 'Jewish Mossad Agent' - French Reports

(Anything coming out of Snowden should be treated with extreme suspicion... he was pitching the official 9/11 narrative at Christmas after all...)

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:40 | 5070385 mvsjcl
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Thanks, ZerOhead. First I'd heard of that. I'll research that now. He's not immune to the Litmus Test.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:44 | 5070561 Keyser
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Yep, trained and funded by the Israelis and the US... Rather difficult to tell who is playing for who in this quagmire, even with a program ... 

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:52 | 5070583 Raymond K Hessel
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My missiles don't explode like that when I use them on BF4.

WTF!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 17:56 | 5070947 RafterManFMJ
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Bah, you need to try Red Orchestra 2 or Rising Storm...

Old school, gritty, bullet ballistics, and a kill streak of 3 means you're a grizzled vet.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 22:46 | 5071712 jeff montanye
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manthong: no individuals; the red cross has won it three times and the u.n. commissioner for refugees twice.

linus pauling won once for chemistry and once for peace.  three others, including marie curie, won twice in their fields.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:01 | 5070451 TheReplacement
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While it is wise to treat any information with suspicion I don't think Snowden believing the official line on 9/11 necessarily warrants extra attention.  Just think of all the well intentioned, though blind or ignorant, people you must know who still believe it. 

As my dear old dad used to say, "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth."  Take it for what it is and use it appropriately.  Of course dad also used to say to me, with disturbing regularity, "You'd complain if they hung you with a new rope."  I would always agree with him on that one.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:14 | 5070475 ZerOhead
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I am still happy to take what little comes out for what it's worth (as it is actually coming through Greenwald/Omidyar/Obama)

Yet if Snowdens intent was to roll back the surviellance/police state he has to date failed miserably

What concerns me even more than those who still believe the 9/11 cover story is that they just don't seem to care one way or the other about the totalitarian police state we are clearly descending into...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:20 | 5070494 JLee2027
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Dayum boy. You choose to believe one journalism report over multiple other sources, re: Snowden, 9/11, ISIS. What could your critieria for discerning truth possibly be?

ZH getting more insane by the day. 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:47 | 5070700 ZerOhead
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ISIS is or was CIA... little doubt considering it's genesis... not to mention the ordered 'evaporation' of a 30,000 strong army in front of 800 unopposed ISIS insurgents in Mosul a city of over 1 million..

The breakup of Iraq along sectarian lines has been long in the planning... and very public. Netanyahu is on record for support of a Kurdish state (mossad has trained them for years) and now because of the ISIS attacks this is clearly going to happen with massive public support (thanks MSM). It only stands to reason that Abu Bakr is a CIA or mossad asset. I pick CIA at this moment.

The Engineered Destruction and Political Fragmentation of Iraq. Towards the Creation of a US Sponsored Islamist Caliphate | Global Research

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 08:12 | 5071154 RECISION
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I'm more intrigued by the people claiming the IS "came out of nowhere..."

Riiight...

Like the Talaban before them "came out of nowhere".

You would have thought that all these well funded spy agencies would have figured out by now where this "nowhere" is. And how you can make an army accelerate from 0 - 100mph overnight.

You gotta admit that is a pretty cool trick.  I wouldn't mind knowing how to do that myself...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 19:40 | 5071221 JLee2027
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You keep repeating that stuff, but news reports are in conflict. How are you telling truth from fiction? My take is your expressing your opinion, as you have every right to do so, but I didn't ask you how deep the rabbit hole was.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 00:01 | 5071876 BraveSirRobin
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For these folks, it's WAY deep, indeed.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 01:27 | 5072006 Freddie
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ISIS is or was CIA.

So is Snowden.   He talks about all his work for NSA but never goes into detail on what the CIA really does or in detail on what he did in his job.  He said he was an agent and not just a network technician. 

Jon Rappaport's stuff is pretty good.  He said when Snowden broke that he was a CIA op against the NSA.

http://www.nomorefakenews.com/

The question is - why is Russia and Putin letting Snowden live there if he is CIA?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:48 | 5070569 Keyser
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It is now obvious that the preamble to the police state was the build-up of assets on US soil... Phase 2 is to open the borders and let the US be overrun by 3rd world shitbags, bringing their disease, culture and lawlessness to the US... Phase 3 is the US cracking down on Americans defending themselves from this hoard and pressing disarmament of the general public. Phase 4, checkmate... 

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:54 | 5070594 Raymond K Hessel
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I thought Phase 3 was Profit.

 

 

Phase 1 - Collect underwear.

Phase 2 - ?

Phase 3 - Profit!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:19 | 5070646 Deer Hunter
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I'm game til Phase 3. I sometimes wonder what that deer is feeling and thinking after that 308 round passes through their body. I may one day get to experience it, they run less than 70yds and drop. Only about 20 seconds of pain, lucky bastards.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 17:54 | 5070938 freewolf7
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Mammals can only tolerate so much distress. After that, we dissociate. It's a coping skill.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 19:31 | 5071185 Backwoods
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MIC is going to make plenty of money whether we attack a brutal horde of head chopping, religious clensing, islamic imperalists or not...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:10 | 5070285 eclectic syncretist
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They always release videos showing destruction of a target that's isolated on a deserted road in the middle of nowhere.  What about all the bombs that get dropped in crowded urban areas??? Why don't we get to see any of those?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:21 | 5070502 JLee2027
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First you have to prove the US is bombing "crowded urban areas".

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:32 | 5070711 what's that smell
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snuff films on zhedge.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:06 | 5070629 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Why don't we get to see any of those?

Because they lack the powerful visual effect of the shockwave(s) against the surrounding grain field. Duh.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 18:02 | 5070953 RafterManFMJ
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Hard to tell but I'm pretty sure that was a poppy field - you can tell by the old leathery dude with a Hooka, and a Seal Team spreading out to secure and defend the precious, precious poppies.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:11 | 5070296 Skateboarder
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You prompted me to go look it up. Read the list - includes notorious traitors like Woodrow Wilson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 18:05 | 5070958 RafterManFMJ
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Ah, reward the worms and traitors with a nice cash prize.

Here is a puzzler:

If you truck-bombed the Nobel Commitee while they were meeting, how many Nobel Prizes would you win?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:20 | 5070317 Hugh G Rection
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So how much tax money did that cost us to kill 6 zio proxies we formerly funded?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:49 | 5070572 Keyser
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At least $500k... Chump change to the elites, put it on their tab... 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:06 | 5070632 MayIMommaDogFac...
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But the video production costs were nearly FREE!

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 05:23 | 5072150 Thom_333
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The sardine suckers are actually located in Norway. A committee appointed by their parliament. This is per Nobel´s testament that all prizes be awarded by Kungl Vetenskapsakademien except the Peace Prize which is decided on by Norwegian Parliament (Sweden and Norway was in a union when the testament was written). So the Norwegians were given the right to award the Peace Prize...and you see the result. In Sweden Norway and Norwegians are generally seen as country bumpkins and clods and there are a lot of jokes where they are the butt of it...much like the American view on Polaks. Norway is also a member of NATO but not of EU and the opposite is true for Sweden. Please try to get your facts right on European things.

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:02 | 5070256 VATICANT
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The US has no borders and starts a war with IS; something tells me this has been the plan from the start, hmmmm

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:07 | 5070279 Keyser
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Coming to a neighborhood near you.... The next elementary school massacre won't be a false flag operation...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:12 | 5070471 VATICANT
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Or a refinery

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 17:56 | 5070941 Taint Boil
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I have mentioned here several time:

If you can stop the flow [refineries] of oil you can stop the world.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 03:13 | 5072091 putaipan
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oh jes they coullllllllld. sorze style'

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:03 | 5070265 Spastica Rex
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That doesn't sound liberal to me.

Ignorance is strength, buddy.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:08 | 5070282 Keyser
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How about just plain ignorant?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:07 | 5070276 GooseShtepping Moron
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I'm assuming you omitted the sarc tags trusting that we would all get the joke. But in the off chance that I'm wrong, I would ask you to crack a window the next time you paint the spare bedroom.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:23 | 5070326 Jumbotron
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Sarc is Spas's modus operandi.  He does not need the sarc tag around here.  He's earned his keep.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:47 | 5070404 Manthong
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Free your mind to enjoy the liberation of bondage.

It is the only progressive and liberal thing to do.

Submit.. surrender,,, convert.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:04 | 5070456 TheReplacement
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Win or die, stand and fight.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:52 | 5070715 Manthong
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Y'know.. the good thing about death is that it puts an end to things.

The missus is always looking for closure.. well..

Y'all know that was major SARC, right?  

The missus could be deadly at 15 feet and most likely when one is asleep.

So the lesson here is that sleeping secure is when the missus does not want to kill you.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:17 | 5070489 GooseShtepping Moron
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Do you even understand how the nesting system works?

I wasn't responding to Spas. I was responding to the same person Spas was responding to, Liberal.

If you're going to discuss who has and who hasn't earned his keep, it would be more believable if you showed some understanding of basic commenting protocol. But we all make mistakes. I bear no grudge. Have a nice weekend.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:30 | 5070523 Jumbotron
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Then I bear no resentment.

But it would help if you did this....because ZeroHedges nesting system is a bit wonky at times.....

"Do you even understand how the nesting system works?

I wasn't responding to Spas. I was responding to the same person Spas was responding to, Liberal."

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:09 | 5070641 Seek_Truth
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It has been obvious from Liberal's first comment that it is attempting to be a parody of the modern day Liberal, Progressive mindset.

This attempt is so obvious I am amazed there exist people who don't get that.

Unlike MDB who has truly mastered the art.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:10 | 5070642 MayIMommaDogFac...
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 if you showed some understanding of basic commenting protocol

Now that's some funny shit right there.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 17:21 | 5070866 Jumbotron
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" if you showed some understanding of basic commenting protocol"

It does help to clarify who you are commenting to / about when the nesting system sends your comment 17 posts down and to the next page. 

Also helps when one does this.....

 

MayIMommaDogFac.....said
" if you showed some understanding of basic commenting protocol"

<your comment / reply here>

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:13 | 5070302 basho
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'But I don't mind Obama killing Arabs...and Americans. With drones! I think it's kinda cool now.''

 

sick

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:05 | 5070460 TheReplacement
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While in the majority here at ZH you are in the minority when including people who elect Presidents.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:07 | 5070466 7.62x54r
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Might want to recalibrate your sarcasm detector.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:56 | 5070789 Colonel
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In truth it's neither sarcasm nor parody. It's really what the left believes and thinks.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 21:53 | 5071563 Spastica Rex
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You mean like this?

He's as Left as you get.

Good thing we have smart guys like you to tell us what we all believe and think.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:20 | 5070319 Jumbotron
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No, No, No.

Leave them alone.  Let the Muzzies take care of their own.  And if they can't then they deserve ISIS.

Then we will see if the Europeans will really get off their ass and spend a little money on their military and police their back yard for a change.

Or better yet.....let the Russians take care of that shit once ISIS heads north through Turkey into southern Russia. 

Or let's see what the Persians (Iranians) are made of.   

Let's get a GOOD, GOOD, look at Muslim brotherhood and kindness.     LOL !!!!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:51 | 5070421 chunga
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I'm anxious to see how the Europeans react to Exxon and Rosneft going ahead with drilling in the Kara Sea.

Sanctions are for muppets.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 19:49 | 5071237 king leon
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The US have reacted , They tried a torpedo run but were driven out.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 11:01 | 5072548 espirit
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@ Jumbotron

IS, ISIS, or ISIL won't be messing with the Turks.

That would bring unimaginable hurt upon them.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:42 | 5070560 Rikeska
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Yahoo Snakbar!

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 01:12 | 5071974 good man
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My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do... http://goo.gl/bhiamE

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 11:04 | 5072557 espirit
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But what if I'm a OFWG?

Can I still make the Bux?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:20 | 5070112 barre-de-rire
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 green screen with some information - black square on video information.

why ?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:30 | 5070144 Rusty Shorts
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..black square is the score board. IRAQ - 1  USA - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:30 | 5070146 Quus Ant
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Maybe because this video is from 2006? Or Libya 2011?

I believe nothing anymore.  Thanks uncle sam.  Mission Accomplished.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:53 | 5070225 roadhazard
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That's actually an Oath Keeper drone dealing with illegals in Texas.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:14 | 5070299 813kml
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I think they used the wrong footage, I don't see a wedding.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:26 | 5070336 Jumbotron
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Dude....that happened when those ISIS goons' souls were released in glorious martydom to the waiting arms of 70 virgins.

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 18:07 | 5070963 americanspirit
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Ya know, Allah never said that those 70 Virgins were going to be human virgins. I vote for cherry little piglets. Or maybe your standard bob-tailed sheep. We know the ragheads love sheep almost as much as they love little boys.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 20:01 | 5071272 king leon
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How about 70 Michele Obama's?

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 03:23 | 5072103 putaipan
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sheesh you guy's c'mon... i been around here a while. you know - me ? putaipan? with the moamar givin' ya the ol' heebie jeebies from beyond the "i came i sqiurted he dead"grave quadaffi? and you still don't know the punchline/economic eschatologic truth...... IT'S TWO 70 YEAR OLD VIRGINS !  ....... bitches.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 18:13 | 5070982 RafterManFMJ
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Look again!

Most Arab weddings involve sacrificing a Christian child, then dancing like wild Indians around an artillery battery. Or so Fox News told me.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:22 | 5070113 DeliciousSteak
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Gotta love the 21st century. Peace loving nations posting videos to boast about killing people. Yeehhaaawww.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:22 | 5070117 SHEEPFUKKER
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I know right? It's like reading the box scores in the sports section. 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:28 | 5070129 Skateboarder
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For the chilled-urn. Do something koool? Put it up on youDuped for all to see.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:29 | 5070141 homiegot
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I'm in the comfort of my air conditioned home. We aren't a peace loving nation. Never have been. Never will be.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:13 | 5070478 TheReplacement
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Peace is only possible if you surrender and submit or kill all who stand against you (and keep killing them).  Wanting peace is a whole other animal from having peace.  It's just human nature is all.  Peace is just a fairy tale illusion to make people believe they can submit to a greater good when all it does is give some authoritarian more power to enslave more people.

I'm all for dropping bombs on ISIS fighters threatening the tens of thousands of refugees, assuming that is really the situation.  I'm all for arming the Kurds and people like them so they can excercise their rights to self defense.  Most people probably agree that we should not do any offensive fighting in this situation.  It is about time that people around the world stood up for themselves and stop submitting to others like ISIS, USA, and Russia.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:19 | 5070497 Publicus
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Peace and Justice is replacing Peace and Prosperity.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:43 | 5070386 Lin S
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They were evil doers. The US Navy is a global force for good.

I suppose one day, the mantra will be that the US Navy "is a global force for God." But flag-waving morons in Tennessee and Kentucky will believe it.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:24 | 5070690 Seek_Truth
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Just KY & TN, huh?

By making such statements you prove yourself to be in the same class as those you think you despise- self-hatred it's called.

No state or country has a monopoly on stupidity, or on intelligence for that matter.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 20:30 | 5071352 Lin S
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I don't despise them, and I agree with you about stupid. I just pulled those two states out of my bum because I know whack-job Neo-Con cheerleaders from there, personally.

Apologies if I gave offense...

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 03:28 | 5072106 putaipan
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waitin' on the nebraska navy personally...... but it might kinda be like waitin' on the pentagon forensic accountants.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 20:48 | 5071401 king leon
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Sometimes gtatitude slaps you in the face The USS Cole was taken out by 3 Ragheads in a boat "INCOMING" at about 5 knots , Aegis and Phalanx didn't stand a chance.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 20:54 | 5071411 Lin S
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Edit: forgot to add /sarc after sentence 1 and 2.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 20:54 | 5071414 Lin S
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Edit: forgot to add /sarc after sentence 1 and 2.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:02 | 5070619 Deer Hunter
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The other guy posts video of cutting heads off, we post night time explosions. They win the fear factor.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:24 | 5070120 localspaced
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Awesome.. Isis conquers half the middle east..we blow up two hiluxes.

Still, satisfying to watch. More plz. 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:28 | 5070139 chunga
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B-B! B-B! B-B!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:25 | 5070121 Yellowhoard
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ISIS is pure evil.

But they are our creation so we have to be gentle when we bomb them.

Nothing serious will be hit.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:42 | 5070179 Dubaibanker
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Regardless of what they do, one day the chickens will come home to roost.....cannot keep them in far away lands and expect them to just disappear into thin air over time once you dont need them any more to fight your wars against the Russians or whoever the next nameless/faceless enemy is..........the number of terrorists in the last decade have increased significantly and are estimated to be above 100k due to such poor policies. Now people from Singapore, Malaysia, India, US, UK, Europe, Ukraine, Saudi etc are all rising up and joining anywhere and everywhere.

It is so sad to see man fighting against man.

First it was conquering land by British/Spanish/French/Portuguese and before them by the Persians/Romans...... Then it was US who made people obey due to their military strength. Now those who disobey are paying a heavy price with blood. At least the Chinese, hopefully, will only conquer all of us with economic power.

Imagine if someone bombed your house, because you mistreated your wife or hit your dog....that is what is happening here....bombing people whom you disagree with!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:55 | 5070229 Escrava Isaura
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Dubaibanker,

Once an economy fails, how will a failed state "US" and the coming failed state "China" do?

The same as it ever was: Conquer by force. By wars!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:05 | 5070270 eclectic syncretist
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So what??!!  Skynet shouldn't become self-aware for at least a couple more years yet.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:11 | 5070292 Escrava Isaura
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Skynet?

Please, clarify.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:57 | 5070437 sessinpo
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Escrava Isaura   Skynet? Please, clarify.

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One that can't even do a simple google search isn't likely to live long when things go bad.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:04 | 5070458 adeptish
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Escrava Isaura is a troll.

Don't feed the troll...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:34 | 5070538 Jumbotron
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Sorry......I'm a sucker for trolls.  Even trolls who seem to legitimately quest for information and enlightnement.

 

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:15 | 5070639 Escrava Isaura
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Thanks Jumb. I couldn't have said it any better.

And the sad part: After looking at your link, not proud to say it, but I still don't get it!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 17:24 | 5070874 Jumbotron
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LOL !!!!

Ok....+1000 for honesty.

Skynet is a fictional self aware computer network that controlled killer robots from the future.  It was pretty much all seeing....all controlling.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 22:53 | 5071732 WillyGroper
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Telenovela??

Peculiar choice.

See how easy it is?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:20 | 5070308 Dubaibanker
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Escrava,

I am afraid the Communist nations like Russia and China are insulated from US hegemony. No banks have large presence there, no large oil companies controlling them, no insurance companies etc. This means that profits cannot be repatriated back to US or UK etc nor pressure to leave works. In fact, US cannot fight China in a war, because all the iPhones, clothing, profit repatriation will come to a grinding halt.

Therefore, insulated countries technically cannot fail since they are self sufficient in most respects like the centuries gone by. The reason Middle Eatsrn countries like Iraq and Afghanistan etc have failed because they did not have enough money power nor were they insulated and to top it all corruption destroyed them from within, once they disobeyed the powerful US they were sent back to the middle ages.

You need to provide some data or evidence in comparison to the US as to why you believe that China will become a failed state?

And, I did not say anything about US or for that matter China failing here....where did you bring this into our conversation from? US will fail....but that's another matter and another thread.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:10 | 5070634 Escrava Isaura
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Dubai,

Sorry for the delayed answer. Had to attend other matters.

Great layout in your post of the dynamics we are facing. Please, keep it coming. Zero Hedge needs people from all over the world. And from different views.

By the way, last night met a friend (he is Brazilian and a development banker) in DC, where I live. And he said something like this —we were talking about why US banks should be kept alive by subsidies. Anyway, I found his answer interesting. His rationality went something like this:

“The US corporations and business fail the US middle classes. They didn’t protect them; to the contrary, they brought them down. Now, they (US corporations and business) won’t be able to make without that middle class. And, they won’t be able to revival them either.”

 

China, now! China run will be much shorter than of the US because:

1) The easiest natural resources have been extracted already

2) And US will bring China down with. China is surrounded by too many nations that can be used against them. Then, US has Japan, Taiwan, and Australia right off China’s coast and with US bases.

China will then be forced to spend militarily. It means, expansionist. With 17% more boys born than girls, that should not be a problem.

 

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 04:40 | 5072138 Dubaibanker
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Escrava,

Your views and from that of the banker are wrong, IMHO.

China does not have natural resources that it doesnt use. It extracts in other nations and brings them home for consumption on top. China imports oil, fuels, metals as well as ores and chemicals etc. It is a large consumer after it has used up all that it has got, hence other countries cannot afford to lose the fastest growing economy on the planet! More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China

China is the largest producer and consumer of gold and it does not export one ounce of its gold, rather buys more every year.

China also is the largest consumer and producer of cement....steel.....and now cars...etc. 

China also conumes a lot of wines and is now its largest consumer. As well as all the luxury goods like top end cars, top end watches, top end hand bags, perfumes etc.

In terms of Taiwan, Australia and Japan also you are wrong, unfortunately.

Simply because all those 3 nations count China as their single biggest trading partner.

Australia trades 18.2% of all goods to China with USA a distant 11.6% and declining. With China rising this Aussie number will keep rising. There is a reason they call Aussie dollar as a proxy for China. More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Australia

Same for Japan, it trades more than USA with China since last year or two. 18.1% with China and 17.8% with US. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Japan

I dont know how you bring Taiwan into a conflict with China. It is nearly impossible unless China throws a nuclear device into Taiwan which it has no reason to whatsoever unless it wants to hurt itself irreparably. A full 40.2% of all Taiwan trade is done with China and HK. If you remember, HK is owned by China and was used for all currency and trade experiments in the past. All iPhones and other PC's and laptops use products from China who in turn buys from Taiwan which we all need. Any disruption and laptop prices will double easily. More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Taiwan

China is so insulated from every body else and does relatively high level of trade with over a hundred countries that fighting a trade war with China is like trying to kill yourself. They are simply too big and can dictate their terms though not as badly as Walmart or on the other end Apple does.

Please convey to your banker friend that US businesses and banks did not kill the middle class by design. The middle class died about 10-15 years ago. Then in order to save themselves, all major US corporations (who unlike individuals are allowed to keep cash abroad and save gazillions in taxes due to their criminal lobbying efforts. I can never understand what is the difference between corporate taxation and individual taxation unless it is nepotism and crony capitalism i.e. why individuals face harsh penalties with jail time but corporations are allowed scot free to keep assets overseas) kept growing abroad, took jobs overseas both in manufacturing as well as services, saved taxes, did stock buy backs, had the Fed bail them out from GM to AIG to Goldman etc, issued bonds and gathered cash on balance sheets etc and now they simply cannot die because we need them to a very large extent. Since jobs of manufacturing and services both were sent abroad and the middle class died, the middle class were kept alive with hope and change and a lot of sub prime debt, USD 4,000 car buy back subsidy which kept GM and others alive, now car sub prime and also student debt etc.

Now US has reached the end of its financial stretch limits and there is no other way to carry the load of these millions of demanding tax payers any longer for pension and health care liabilities, so again we have wars and intervention in foreign countries affairs.

So it was not the fault of the US corporations per se but they were concered about their own survival. They survived in the past , however, this time after not being allowed inside China to sell i.e. Apple was just allowed to sell 8 months ago in China and already faces a ban from the Govt. IBM, Oracle, Symantec, Dell etc are being asked to leave China etc. Now Russia has been added to this list who is sending Mcdonalds, Mastercard, Visa etc out.

US is down from 1,000 companies in the Top 2000 worldwide to just 564 companies in 2014, this is just in the last decade. Perhaps in 1990's US had about 1,500 comapnies in the world and at the time of second world war, US was at its peak with a dominating GDP worldwide. US role has been shrinking globally for decades now. The financial crisis was a good indicator of worse to come since the foreigners are now refusing to buy bonds which seem to be worthelss due to US policies both on the financial as well as the trade front. As Putin or some Prof from Russia said, US needs to have respect to have a reserve currency staus which it is losing very fast among all the nations. BRICS bank and trade in local currencies are a very big alert sign of things yet to come.

There is lot of data on US decline here: http://socialistfight.com/2014/07/22/imperialism-today-socialist-fight-1...

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 05:36 | 5072160 UselessEater
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Please convey to your banker friend that US businesses and banks did not kill the middle class by design.....then corps...

usually I find your posts interesting... I shall read your post again and try to figure out why annoys me.

 

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 09:13 | 5072353 Dubaibanker
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Thanks.

And I await your thoughts as to why my comment annoys you, hopefully with some data points. 

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 11:10 | 5072567 Escrava Isaura
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Dubaibanker,

Thanks for this exceptional post. We, Americans, need to understand what is really happening. How we got here. And you made our job a lot easier.

My friend and I did not talk about China. We talked about America. My friend is an engineer/financial analyst, employed by a development bank.

He did say something about wealth Americans and US multinationals not paying taxes. And he still can’t understand how they get away with that. I told him that should not come as a surprise because US propaganda machine is really good misleading the American people. I gave him the example that most Americans were against WW-1 involvement, but, after 18 months of propaganda, they couldn’t wait to go to war. And this propaganda machine only got better that by 1920’s, there were no opposition. Even the intellectuals became brainwashed ‘embraced’ it.

Anyway, my friend did make a comparison with Germany —his son goes to school there—  and he said its night and day of the awareness, cleanliness, and education. He used an example of going to the hospital in Germany. He said something like this: “When I go to a US hospital I noticed it is all codes. A tech place a band-aid, this tech enters a code. I get charged by doctors that I never saw. I never met. US healthcare is an expensive joke, compared to Germany.”

Dubaibanker, when my friend said “US corporations failed the American people” he was referring by them moving the jobs and taxes offshore, which is very similar to your statement. And he blames political corruption. And I agree with him. But, when I told him about massive massmedia lies and misinformation, he did not agreed with me. Funny how things goes sometime.   

China.

I understand China’s appetite. There are no comparisons. And no precedent.

I also understand there must be major geopolitical realliances ‘diplomacy’ to be worked out in Asia, once US influence become less important there. And I can even see the two Koreas starting open their boarders, once China says so. Time will tell. By the way, if you read China history, that you, dubaibanker probably knows a lot about it, will realize that China is not an intervention ‘imperialist’ nation, such as US and Japan. So they should have some credibility in persuading other Asia nations. Again, time will tell.

My friend also said that China lent more money in Brazil and South America than the Word Bank, Inter-American Development Bank, and The Brazilian Development Bank, combined.

This post is getting too long. So let me cut to the chase:

Resources Depletion: “The world overshot world’s capacity by 160% “

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2oyU0RusiA

Available Net Exports (ANE) and/or Export Land Model (ELM) 

http://peakoilbarrel.com/will-peak-oil-actually-arrive/comment-page-3/#comment-10666

China household debt compared to GDP back down in 2013

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.CON.PETC.ZS

 

Key Points

1) We live in a finite planet

2) It is taking more energy to extract less energy

3) US collapse will bring the whole word down because US won’t go quiet

4) If China investment growth [too much debt already], GDP growth [expenses resources and the need to be at an unsustainable 7% growth], and household income growth [less and less disposable income] turn negative, China won’t be able to rebalance.

Sun, 08/10/2014 - 13:16 | 5072857 Dubaibanker
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Thanks for your response, Escrava.

However, I do not believe in the quantitative data unless looked at from the prism of quality behind it. The World Bank data are estimates by a Western dominated institution. They may be right, but they use estimates and there is absolutely no way that World Bank, sitting in London or NY or wherever, can conclusively include data from the millions of villages and rural areas of China or Africa or for that matter India. They use Govt estimates which are just that, estimates. but do remember Chinese are very frugal and are huge savers and usually buy most of their homes on cash and not on credit, almsot over 80%, despite all the bans on second and third home purchases.

Peak oil is another thing that has never happened, because we become energy efficient, use other resources etc. Please remember that until 1900 we did not have a car or a plane, and used coal based railway engines and bullock carts etc. We could go back to that age if we could not afford USD 200 or USD 300 barrell of oil. However, alternate energies are on the rise and with all the wars, we could not travel to as many places any ways or trade with countries we sanction, so thats a positive. Since 1956 we have been hearing of peak oil, first target was in 2000 and then in 2010, however, oil production just keeps rising. http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?product=oil&graph=production

I have not heard the full youtube speech but if the world is overshooting capacity of food or resources or anything else, then how is it working? There has to be a buyer and seller and the waste is accounted in the price. Resources of metals and minerals if they get depleted, then it is ok, just like oil, so we shall use less computers, less cars and less goods that we dont need. That is billions in Africa, India, China etc live like that anyways. Internet penetration on the planet is assumed to be less than 10%. Urbanisation is the reason for disaster because we have been led to believe that spending all that we earn makes us better which is certainly not the case.

Though, energy is limited, which I agree with, and resources are finite, however, humans are survivors and have a very strong survival instinct. Despite everything finishing, we will still survive. that is what is happening in the US. They are fighting for survival on a global scale when no seems to respect them nor wish to trade in their currency nor allow many tourists from US into countries such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and growing by leaps and bounds etc is happening.

It may be taking more energy to extract less energy but the oil discovered previously was the low hanging fruit and now with the higher productivity levels and more money to go around, we are able to use it by a higher multiplier than ever before.

That is wishful thinking, that if US goes down, it will not go down quietly. Only an American would think that way! Britain slowed down, all Europeans slowed down and gave way to other powers, but that does not mean that they went down, but that they have to adjust to new realities and they could do it two ways: 1) happily by being humble or 2) unhappiiy by creating wars and we know what US is doing. Humility is very rarely found in the powers that be throughout the centuries. Each emperor from Alexander to Napoleon to Persians thought they were invincible.

China debt is not an issue because they have earned it and saved it plus they live frugally and it is all domestic unlike US or UK which is owed to foreigners. Just look at any data over the past 30 years. The Middle Kingdom is rising after a hiatus of less than 200 years. They are smarter than most people give them credit for. They are unified as a population in their approach with a single minded focus to rise above the rest of us (read about the way they prepare for Olympics) and do not interfere in other country's affairs unless it directly impacts them in any way like India (on Tibet or Arunachal) or Japan/Philippines (on the islands) etc.

China's household expenditure is just a random number not verifiable nor seen in the context of the rest of the data such as GDP, social need for having a house else the woman doesnt marry the man, Hukou system that can dictate which city milliolns can live UNTIL NOW or the urge for gold etc.

This is a fascinating set of data prepared for the eyes of the US Congress and which is much more interesting than all the other Chinese data collectors or research houses who are biased in view of their Western influenced education and brainwashing that US can simply never be wrong in its capitalist, oops, socialist approach. http://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33534.pdf

None of the formulas taught to us in school are working if you look at any Nobel Prize (or Prose) winners. Sharpe ratios and risk free rates etc are becoming a relic of the past. US is no longer risk free as we have been taught for decades. We know Lehman and Enron can fail and there will be no bail outs. We also know solar comapnies like Solyandra can fail or Detroit or Stockton can....The list is very long. This is not how risk free rate is supposed to work! So much for teaching the Chinese. We have to look around us, the only supermarket that literally works 24 hours a day is in China town, found in any large metro city of US or Europe. Everyone else goes home at 6pm sharp and Sundays are shut downs too. This alone should tell us how hard working the Chinese are!

You will see that China is anticipated to have 11.4% of its fuel consumption through non fuel based resources and is a global leader in solar energy area.

They still aim to build 36m homes in China. Their airports are rising at a phenomenal speed as are their ports. They build more roads and highways and do more energy consumption that any other nation on the planet has ever done including the US. Imagine, the growth has just started over the last few years.

As far as the peak oil is concerned, since 1956 and then in 1997, they have saying it. Here it is from 1997. http://www.oilcrash.com/articles/shock.htm

Resources matter on who controls them and owns them, as far as I can see, in the last last decade, China has been buying anything remotely related to resources worldwide and use it for their own gains. They will indeed be the last man standing, if the world were to ever collapse, though I am not betting on it.

According to a Buddhist saying: This also shall pass!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:58 | 5070244 SuperRay
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So I guess that makes the peope who created them pure evil as well...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:27 | 5070127 Rusty Shorts
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Obama: Iraq Airstrikes Could Be "Long Term" - Full News Conference

 

Published on Aug 9, 2014

 

President Obama said Saturday that airstrikes in Iraq will continue for as long as necessary to protect both U.S. personnel and religious minorities who are trapped on a mountain by militants in northern Iraq.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu9aZJuBI2s

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:08 | 5070640 Moe Howard
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The bombings will continue until the US/Mossad created GOLEM backs off the Kurds, who are busy shipping all the oil they can to Israel.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:27 | 5070130 Boomberg
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Wish they had zoomed in a little closer on the artillery piece to obtain the serial number and which US state it was manufactured in. And how many millions of dollars of US taxpayer money was spent delivering the ordinance and watching it,  just to destroy one piece of artillery in a desert on the other side of the world?

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:34 | 5070160 TradingFinn
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They are taking stealing a bit too seriously. At least the banks just get your car towed away if you don't pay up.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:36 | 5070165 homiegot
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You are seeing a government-created economy. Operational obsolescence. We'll make more.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:27 | 5070134 homiegot
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Total fucking war.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:28 | 5070135 Seasmoke
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Yet they were afraid to show proof of Osama being caught and dead !!!!......Watch out for sleeper cells

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:28 | 5070137 Bokkenrijder
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Pfff, an F-18 is NOT a drone!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:36 | 5070167 Dr. Engali
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The drone recorded the f-18 strike.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:37 | 5070172 Rusty Shorts
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probably a Drone monitoring the air strke by the F-18

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:00 | 5070248 SuperRay
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Bokken is a deep thinker...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:11 | 5070297 r00t61
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Bokken is an example that long-term ZH membership (4 years 50 weeks) is actually no guarantee of intelligence.

The other day, Bokken threw a fit over the fact that Tyler referred to the Russian security service as the KGB instead of the FSB or the SVR.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-08/german-handelsblatt-releases-st...

So it is with irony that I now pedantically point out that there is no such thing as an "F-18." 

In fact, let me say it like him: "Pfff, there is no such thing as an F-18!  There is only the F/A-18."

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:47 | 5070562 Jumbotron
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PFFTT......there's no such thing as an F/A18.

It's the F/A 18E/F Super Hornet with the new square radar blocking intakes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F/A-18E/F_Super_Hornet#mediaviewer/...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:28 | 5070138 _SILENCER
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If they wre serious about this ISIS psyop they would have taken the whole crew out weeks ago "Highway of Death" style when the convoy was on the move.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:32 | 5070155 homiegot
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That doesn't look good to the lemmings.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:31 | 5070148 JenkinsLane
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"Scruffy don't get no stinkin' trial!"

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:34 | 5070149 Dr. Engali
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Oh good, I was hoping they would show this war on teevee and display our awesome pinpoint killing capabilities. Thay ain't nuttin like watching a little death and destruction while sitting back in the barkalounger, munching on some Cheetos, while enjoying a cold one.

Hey woman, fetch me a beer and git in here. They bout ready to kill dem sum mooslims.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:35 | 5070163 Skateboarder
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The 'next war' (lol, like there was an end to the last one) will be filmed from the frontlines? Good 'ol fashioned entertainment - rally the family around the teevee and watch the yankee boys blow those ragheads to smithereens. Fowaaad!

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:45 | 5070398 btdt
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why call em yankees? , these are good old southern boys - the cannon fodder anyway.

solid Scots Irish stock [like me], always at the ready for the King [not like me] or Queen (never mind that the Crown double crossed their ancestprs).

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:01 | 5070255 SuperRay
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Dr. Engali, yoos a truu amer-i-can...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:33 | 5070157 Dubaibanker
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That's so cool....video game deaths from the comfort of your couch...you could also have naked killing instead of naked shopping...howzzat?

These deaths are so awesome...but only when they belong to another religion...another country.....another unknown soldier from a foreign army.....

By the way, the bombs from above were by US and bombs below were from the US. <Face palm meets forehead>

The US bombing its own guns perfectly sums up America’s total failure in Iraq

So the US air strikes against ISIS are in part to destroy US military equipment, such as the artillery ISIS has been using against Kurdish forces.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:02 | 5070261 SuperRay
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Nato needs to send OSCE in to confirm they were USA bombs.  Then we're gonna sanction ourselves...

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:05 | 5070269 Escapedgoat
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And WHO PAYS  for ALL  that shit??

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:22 | 5070324 Dubaibanker
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The US taxpayers including the sheeple who kept money in Swiss bank accounts for so long......

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:44 | 5070192 oklaboy
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come on everybody, let sign up to support our dear leader

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:57 | 5070228 Blazed
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USA! USA! USA!....wait, what if all these video game drones and last 2 decades of war profiteering death and destruction "toys and culture" is just practice for the next target, the US populace?! Oh Shit.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 13:54 | 5070230 mastersnark
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I see Obama is going for his second peace prize.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:01 | 5070257 john milton
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Congrats for starting a new war again.. Usa vs caliphate

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:01 | 5070260 dogismycopilot
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i would rather we spend our money stoping these fucking barbarians instead of going for TARP 300

WARNING GRAPHIC PHOTOS (RAW) - ISIS begins killing Christians in Mosul, CHILDREN BEHEADED

http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56481

 

I want to see B52s roll in from Diego Garcia. Until that happens it isn't enough.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:14 | 5070303 therevolutionwas
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I would rather we stop bankrolling these psychos.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 15:57 | 5070606 MountainsRoam
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You have any photos of those hundreds of kids killed by Israel ??

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:03 | 5070264 flyonmywall
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Wow ! What great and amazing success !! /sarc

2 Super Hornets which cost millions of dollars each, plus pilot training, JP8 fuel at a contractual $8/gallon supplied by Halliburton just blasted 3-4 camel jockeys in Toyota trucks with what may have been an artillery in tow, or a trailer with a 20mm AA gun which probably cost less than $75,000.

What the mainstream media calls success, I call the bleeding of the American taxpayer.

Using probably 30 million worth of equipment and pilots to kill 4 towelheads patrolling the desert in some trucks ! That's what success is??

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:09 | 5070283 therevolutionwas
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Dear flyonmywall;

We don't care what you think.

       Yours truly,  CIA and all

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 18:41 | 5071048 flyonmywall
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That's some pretty funny shiznit.

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:14 | 5070305 IridiumRebel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9r0haVPDAo

{cue slow motion Bald Eagle with talons}

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 16:23 | 5070689 MayIMommaDogFac...
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It is more about the video than it is about the kill.

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:41 | 5070272 Son of Captain Nemo
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Like I've said elsehwere... 

The ISIS members that decided to go off the "reservation" will pay dearly even if it means a few dozen or several hundred Yazidi men, women and children get snuffed.  After all we've been so enormously successful with "blackouts" of the media since Operation Shock and Awe and Thanksgiving Massacre!

Just ask pfc Manning how well we keep things under wraps and for how long and what the consequences are when you get caught leaking the truth of war crimes to the "taxpayers" because the media refuses to do it's job?...

We'll probably do the equivalent of Gaza over the last 28 days or much worse with the tacit agreement between Israel and the U.S. to quid pro quo, a.k.a. "head shot" anything that even remotely looks like a press badge or a cell phone!!!

After all.  That's all we ever do!!!!

 

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:10 | 5070280 kchrisc
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May just be me, but I am just not believing that CIA-Obama would bomb his masters' army in the Middle East. Then after the Sandy Hook fake footage and the propaganda around MH-17, I'm just not buying it.

From what I can figure the whole thing is fake, or the CIA's ISIS army got too big for their britches and were threatening the other allies of Greater Israel and so needed a reminder of who still has the "bigger stick."

However, next, CIA-Obama will be claiming to be bombing ISIS in Syria, but will really be bombing targets to assist ISIS' moves against Assad.

But then it can be that the insanity of it all has had a delirious effect on me—“Here’s Johnny!”

Sat, 08/09/2014 - 14:16 | 5070310 Son of Captain Nemo
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"... or the CIA's ISIS army got too big for their britches and were threatening the other allies of Greater Israel and so needed a reminder of who still has the "bigger stick."

kc

Bingo.  It's about handing your entire military over to a bunch of Middle East and Eastern European refugees you made homeless, drugged and destitute and then expecting them to always obey your commands like an "automaton".

Never happens when your "Master" never keeps his promises!


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