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Guinea Closes Borders With Liberia & Sierra Leone As Ebola Death Count Nears 1000
In an effort to stop people entering the country, The BBC reports, Guinea said it was closing its borders. "We have provisionally closed the frontier between Guinea and Sierra Leone [and Liberia] because of all the news that we have received from there recently," Health Minister Remy Lamah told a news conference. Ironically, the latest outbreak is thought to have begun in Guinea, but Liberia and Sierra Leone are currently facing the highest frequency of new cases. It appears things are not going according to plan...
The total number of cases in the current outbreak stands at 1,779, the WHO said on Friday, with 959 deaths.
The most recent figures from 5 and 6 August showed 68 new cases and 29 deaths.
They included 26 new cases in Sierra Leone and 38 in Liberia, but no new cases in Guinea, where the outbreak began.
Guinea said it was closing its borders in order to stop people from entering the country.
"We have provisionally closed the frontier between Guinea and Sierra Leone because of all the news that we have received from there recently," Health Minister Remy Lamah told a news conference.
He added that Guinea had also closed its border with Liberia.
Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia have already declared varying levels of emergency over the spread of the virus.
The most intense outbreak in Guinea was located in the region along the border with Liberia and Sierra Leone.
The WHO had said the worst-affected area, which straddles the borders between the three countries, would be isolated and treated as a "unified zone".
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"The possible consequences of further international spread are particularly serious in view of the virulence of the virus," WHO said after a meeting on Friday.
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If the border is closed going into and out of Guinea and the hospitals are closed....who's counting the 0 new cases that were reported?
Looks like NOTHING is getting reported in Guinea.
That's nothing new for Guinea (or most ECOWAS members).
But if they are now releasing the official numbers for the 5th & 6th they should have included the death in Senegal reported on the 5th.
And this fixes what?
Borders are for tax-donkeys.
Regards,
Cooter
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The guy who may or may not be sitting in a grass/tin can shack that may or may not be a checkpoint on one side of the river at the border crossing closest to ground zero gets to feel important. Or perhaps they are getting ready to announce a new "shovel ready jobs" program associated with "border infrastructure".
The whole border basically follows rivers, and bridges are few and far between- so people just cross wherever and whenever. Then again, the disease spread all the way to Conakry (hundreds of kilometers) faster than it hopped that little river...
OK boys and girls, we've been sloppy about this. Mea culpa.
We've been arguing about how "air borne" it is or will be... mea culpa redux.
Here's what this thing is and how it kills, per Wikipedia: Hedge accordingly:
PATHOLOGY
Endothelial cells, mononuclear phagocytes, and hepatocytes are the main targets of infection. After infection, a secreted glycoprotein (sGP) known as the Ebola virus glycoprotein (GP) is synthesized. Ebola replication overwhelms protein synthesis of infected cells and host immune defenses. The GP forms a trimeric complex, which binds the virus to the endothelial cells lining the interior surface of blood vessels. The sGP forms a dimeric protein that interferes with the signaling of neutrophils, a type of white blood cell, which allows the virus to evade the immune system by inhibiting early steps of neutrophil activation. These white blood cells also serve as carriers to transport the virus throughout the entire body to places such as the lymph nodes, liver, lungs, and spleen.[43]
It attacks blood vessels from the inside, prevents normal healing and blood clotting and you bleed to death internally. It is not like scurvy. More like every man's hemophilia. Gawdhelpus.
Kaiser, this is important to note. This virus causes SEVERE pathological findings. Read autopsy reports on H1N1 deaths. there is marked replication of the virus in alveoli in the cases, which could explain the extensive diffuse alveolar damage. There are important vascular phenomena that resulted in hemorrhage and thrombosis, but without marked decrease of platelet count and coagulation cascade disruptions. These are the worst outcomes of flu. Nothing like Ebola. I cringe when I hear people talk about Vit C, which I do believe in as a possible therapy for Influenza but for Ebola? Not a chance in Hell. This is a Monster on a scale no one here seems to grasp.
HIV is another RNA virus. HIV is a unique human RNA virus, capable of infecting cells of the immune system. Specifically, HIV targets T helper cells (CD4 cells), leading to the eventual death. CD4 cells are vital players in the regulation of immune responses to invading microorganisms. So this is another virus that attacks human immunity but on a massively smaller scale. Being an RNA virus, it mutates often and therefore no vaccine has been developed after years of research and millions of dollars. I am suspicious of the same happening with Ebola.
Please, if anyone has some contrary data refuting my suppositions I would gladly welcome them. Of should I just conclude we are fucked?
Miffed;-)
Thanks Miffed. This keeps getting worse, but we need to know. Anything coming our of Atlanta or the other labs?
Seems like for the risks we have taken, we should at least get some info on what has been tried, and what works.
"Anything coming out of Atlanta or the other labs?"
Awfully silent. I'm thinking that in this situation no news is bad news.
Update: http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/ebolagate-the-biowar-twin-towers/
Dead men tell no tales and fortes fortuna juvat (fortune favors the brave).
Dont fear just Ebola. The cure might be even scarier. Here Is An Undercover Look Inside what ISIS will soon be. And so will we all I think.
http://youtu.be/spw5nmUrpWA
Okay. Small head fuck here. If Ebola has never been in the US before, then how could they be doing research on it and patent a version of it and be working on a treatment/cure for it. Hmmm????
Ghana may have it's first case
Miffed Microbio...
I'm thankful for real info. I know that EB's chemistry knocks out immune response. Thanks for the rest of it.
Common sense confirms we're on our own. Ebola's in Mexico. CDC silent; they either have nothing or are being silenced for a terrible reason.
Act accordingly.
Miffed, you're on the front lines and we're not. You also have a rare ability to read the scientific jargon.
Could you describe for us, in the simplest terms, what this does to the body, and why you see this as off the charts? Thanks.
Hang tight. Kaiser. I am at the moment trying to juggle the demands of my private life. this terrible situation more appropriate to my field than most financial experts here and I want to help in any way possible.
I've been pouring over as much scientific papers as I can, trying to glean a method of approach. So far I am very disappointed. Much research ( as I suspected in that we are dealing with a lethal agent) is sporadic and fragmented. Gene insertions in other less lethal models for study.
When ever I have isolated a highly rare but deadly agent, I am always amazed at the lack of research on it. But this is simply because it is too hot to handle. I was privileged to have worked with the most renowned scientist who worked with Coccidioides immitis in the world. Even with the utmost care he was infected, lost a lung and nearly died.
People can speculate many nefarious reasons why there is no vaccine for Ebola. Tptb wishing population reduction, racism, hatred of the poor etc. but really, working with wild type Ebola is simply too damn dangerous for most to contemplate.
I will get back to this thread later. I am trying to mollify a husband that is quite incensed I spend more time here than with him, world lethal pandemic notwithstanding.
Miffed;-)
Great priorities. Those of us with large noisy families and dogs are busy, but blessed;)
This raises so many questions http://gulfbusiness.com/2014/08/saudi-man-suspected-of-dying-from-ebola-tests-negative-for-virus-officials/#.U-ctNcuYYq0
Not all of us here are from the financial world, for what it's worth. Both my parents were involved in the science of life, and I eventuallly got a bachelor's in chemistry. Mom worked on the Penicillin program in the 1940s in Peoria, and Dad was a biology professor. Sometimes we had little bottles of Drosophila melanogaster around the house, and I still think they are kinda cute.
But I never did science for a living. Computers were safer and easier and more fun. :)
Came to ZH looking for facts, as the regular news outlets ceased to make any sense, and my retirement accounts kept shrinking. Now at least I have some idea why. And FWIW, I read The Hot Zone 20 years ago. It made my hair stand on end.
Thanks for your inputs here, MM ... they are much appreciated.
Miffed,
Please begin to take extra caution in your life.
Miffed, we are massively grateful for your informed input. I have a question. As regards Ebola being an RNA virus targeting CD4 cells, similar to HIV: While we are aware of the German patient, and a few others like him, who contracted HIV and are now HIV free due to an apparent genetic mutation, if memory serves, in the patient's own genome, HIV is still not curable, nor does one simply "get over it." Indeed, HIV/Aids overturned the entire paradigm of the received theory of infection at the time. However, we do read on a daily basis that there is a survival rate with this new Ebola Zaire mutant that approximates 36-38% IF the patient is treated in a Western setting. How is it that an RNA virus of this sort is survivable even to to this degree, if it targets the immune system prima facie, as HIV/Aids does?
I think the answer is that Ebola merely shoots a load of buckshot at the immune system while HIV very specifically targets it, hiding inside the nuclei of its cells.
My understanding is that Ebola is more of a 'conventional' virus that simply replicates. HIV makes a little thing called reverse transcriptase, copying its RNA onto a DNA strand, which it then inserts into the target cell's DNA. It can emerge later on some trigger or other and wreak havoc. Or it can simply hide in its host cells, getting copied whenever they divide, and bide its time.
Interestingly, the genomes of many higher life forms have numerous scattered copies of ancient viral genes, as a result of this stupid virus trick. If the gene is never activated, or if a transctiption error caused it to fail to make virus particles, it does not cause an infection. The defunct virus gene simply gets copied along with the host DNA.
I know, they are lying about alot.
From what I read, the Senegalese lived, died and was buried in Guinea. This article says natural causes.
http://xibaaru.com/societe/le-senegalais-mort-en-guinee-navait-pas-le-vi...
Thanks, but that actually scares me more than what I previously noticed
http://un-influenza.org/?q=content/unsic-newspouch-special-ebola-virus-6...
Siguiri is the gateway to Mali (beaucoup de gold & gun smuggling), and it's relatively disconnected (road/rail wise) from the rest of Guinea, you really have to fly there from Conakry. So if they denied it was ebola and went ahead with a traditional funeral in Siguiri as indicated by This information, she says, was confirmed by the Senegalese community located Siguiri, who attended his burial, August 3, 2014 in the same locality. then I would guess we can expect John Brennan to start fear mongering about AQIM having access to ebola next time the CIA wants some more "latitude"...
I hear ya, about a month ago was expecting it to be reported in Abidjan, Bamako, or Accra by now.
Urban Redneck
Regarding Conarky: http://news.mongabay.com/2014/0805-sri-stiles-ebola-zaire-to-guinea.html
"The ape dealers in Conakry have collection teams that go into the forest, kill chimp mothers and capture the infants," Ammann told mongabay.com. "They bring them to Conakry. The dealers are the same guys with family connections in Kinshasa [in the DRC]."Read more at http://news.mongabay.com/2014/0805-sri-stiles-ebola-zaire-to-guinea.html...
Interesting theory, but their timeline is way off, they should be trying to identify primates smuggled into Guinea at least a decade ago (yeah, I know...), which would also explain why Conakry didn't need to be ground zero for this outbreak.
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/7/13-1265_article
Actually, because of tbe increased militairy oversight and fear of Ebola, thousands of people aren't killed in rebel fights, robberies....
So in a way...
Ebola is a good thing for africa.
Ebola is Earth's newest weapon against Humanity.
Who will win? Earth or Humanity?
Eventually - Earth. Could be awhile though.
In 4-5 billion years, the sun will get the last laugh when it swallows the Earth.
I'm sure us silly humans will have wiped ourselves out long before then.
:) we'll see :)
In 2 months from now, there will be totally different stuff in the spotlight and ebola will be forgotten
Riot police raced to central Liberia on Saturday to put down a demonstration by crowds who had blocked the country's busiest highway to protest the government's delay in collecting bodies of Ebola victims.
Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan has declared the outbreak of Ebola "a national emergency"
Latest on EBOLA here
http://tersee.com/#!q=ebola&t=text
Well, that has more truthiness than all the lame stream media combined.
The BBC is hinting at "not seeing all the cases."
Reported numbers should be regarded as a fraction of reality.
Liberian Girl
You Know That You Came
And You Changed My World
Eh, think I'll skip that song at the moment....
explain to me how the fuck can such ppl from sierra leone & liberia to mother fucking nigeria without any landing in benin, togo, ghana & ivory coast ? this is bullshit,
you know why ?
i lived 15 years to benin... thoses monkeys do not have h24 power supply, how the fuck they can count the 85% people living with the sun & eat for 0.80$ a day...
response : they cant.
so ?
death must be above x4 the official numbers.
That is what Ken Isaacs testified two days ago in front of the US Congress.
His testimony begins at 1h47m
http://www.c-span.org/video/?320862-1/hearing-ebola-outbreak-africa
I'm quite sure we are not getting but a fraction of the story from West Africa, and as the situation deteriorates, it will be increasingly as such.
This is not a issue - you alarmists. If ebola were real then Congress would be doing something about the invasion of America's southern border.
Con--gress is only interested in enriching and protecting themselves.
"If ebola were real then Congress would be doing something about the invasion of America's southern border."
No, they're on vacation and probably have planned not to return to DC, or to leave the country.
At the congressional hearing on Thursday, Ken Isaacs who is one of the senior people at Samaritan's Purse and someone who used to work for for USAID said that the reported numbers "only show 25-50% of the cases."
We have no clue what the true numbers are but you can be sure that they are a lot greater than the reported figures, where governments have little resources, information and frankly, incentive, to report the actual cases/deaths.
It is my hope that international governments are coordinating to somehow limit travel to/from the afflicted regions. I suspect I am being naive or missing something reason why they wouldn't. If this thing pops up elsewhere in Europe or the Americas, it won't just be the doom and gloomers here who are on high alert. And it won't help a global economy that continues to limp along for the most part.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/world/africa/tracing-ebolas-breakout-t...
My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do... http://goo.gl/bhiamE
08/2015
08/2014
Obama still has the borders wide open. Thank a Democrat and RINO. F liberals and Dems who voted for EBOLA - Twice.
Turn your rage at the Oligarchy party, the only party in DC.
If African countries can close their borders, why can't the US?
If the gestation period is two weeks and there is a doubling of deaths every 2 weeks then the entire human race would be wiped out in less than 10 months.
Not saying I think that is going to happen...
Growth rate is around 20% a week. Virus, being evolutionary compatible, will not wipe out entire specie, both will adapt towards each other. Look for a culling of around 20 to 75% however.
There is no border between Mexico and the USA. The US has border patrols whose job is to ensure safe passage of Mexican and Central American migrants into the USA. The people are taken to shelter, feed, clothes, given medical care and often some spending money, then asked which city they want to go to. Then they get a bus ticket to city of choice anywhere in America. You call that a border?
No. I was playing the part of our shitheaded media....Just keep spreading the truth and prepare, Jack, as i am sure you are doing.
I planted some Edirne Eggplant in the garden this year. A beautiful variety from Turkey. Excellent flavor no matter the preparation. The plants were off to a fine start but then the flea beetles came. We could handle them well enough so that the plants were still successful and still produced well for us. But then the Blight hit them followed by Leptoglossus and then a dry spell. Sure I could spray them with some nasty fungicides, pesticides, etc. but then I could not eat them. My point is that there are just too many assaults on too many fronts. This country is overwhelmed much like my Edirne eggplants: riddled with flea beetle holes, blighted brown and no longer blooming, withering and dying a slow death.
God bless y'all good folks
Sorry about your eggplant. For a first time grower, my maters have been doing fine and the squash have been on our plate at every dinner. Bells should be popping up soon.
Well done! We've been organic for five years now. Plants are gonna die and that's that, be it fungus or other. That used to be failure in my mind. Using all my energy to keep them alive, I found, was insanity. Now I allow the plants to just do what they do with minimal energy. My failure now is not having the next batch of seeds sprouted for the next round to replace what is gone. This is the upside of the Edirne I guess. What you are doing is good in a billion different ways. Best of luck to you and your family IR.
I think it depends on what ales the plant and how much work it's going to take to keep it alive. A corn stalk that partially lodges that can be propped up by tamping the soil is one thing. A corn stalk that fully lodges where either roots get ripped or the stalk partially breaks is another. A fungus? If it's the type to spread, rip that shit out. I'm only getting about 1/2 of the tomatoes that I was hoping because 1) pests, and 2) a virus got into some of the plants. I ripped the infected plants out in a hurry.
The high humidity here really favors fungus on squash, tomatoes, peppers and even my grapes. The hi temps for the last two summers rarely reached 100 so the fungus thrives. I need a few days over 100 to help me out but it just doesn't happen. Over 100 kills most of the fungus. I use neem oil and milk solutions to suppress but you simply cannot kill it unless you use nasty chemicals. Pickle worms are the biggest bug threat to squash cause they hole into your stuff. It's not like you can pick them off or squish them. Never grow corn, just trade for it. Tomato Blight was bad everywhere here last year but not bad at all this year. Good stuff and good luck to you EV.
Old Man River Re garden fungus (ugh):
http://gardening.about.com/od/gardenproblems/qt/PowderyMildew.htm
http://hopegardens.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/a-dozen-homemade-organic-garden-remedies/
http://www.veggiegardener.com/12-homemade-natural-remedies-for-the-garden/
My yard got too shady for a veggie garden but when I had one it was dynamite and I used some homemade fungus killers. Fungus just does seem to get out of control.
El Vaquero Slash and burn is the ticket. Fungus lives in soil. Do you test soil for pH? May be too acid or too basic, or may need minerals. Check with the Ag agent. http://gardening.about.com/od/gardenproblems/qt/PowderyMildew.htm
We got alot of tomatoes, a few cucumbers, blueberries and rasberries but the plum and peach trees seemed to have gotten a blight of fungus which ozzes out of the sides. Don't have a clue how to handle that without doing pesticides which we don't want to do. Any suggestions?
..."peach trees seemed to have gotten a blight of fungus..."
http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/fruits/peach/common-peach-diseases.htm
Jack you have the ability to verbalize what I think. I really enjoy reading your posts.
"United States and Canada finally Close Borders With Mexico As Ebola Death Count Nears 1,000,000."
Links please?
Go here for the links:
Http://www.itwasajokeyoudumbass.com
Notice the almost complete media blackout here in the states..
Hey, even the idiots in the media have too many stories to cover now.
Ask yourself what's more important--lies about ebola or disinformation or keeping up to date with the Biebs and his latest or the Kardashian shenanigans. And thank God football season is almost here!
Dr. from Vanderbilt on CNN this morning told me not to worry, everything is fine.
Never believe anything until its been officially denied.
He had a douchie smirk/smile on too that really made me feel at ease. Really comforting, almost like I'm crazy to even think about this at all.
Of course I know flu kills more people than ebola. Cars kill more than planes too. In either case I would pefer the less spectacular method.
I know the one.The big shit eaters grin they give you when they say;
"This isn't going to hurt", meaning them, not you.
According to Public Health Agency of Canada: Ebola has been proven to be 'airborne' in lab environment among primates and highly suspected among humans.
Why is this not being disclosed by other Govts?
Read for yourself:
"MODE OF TRANSMISSION: In an outbreak, it is hypothesized that the first patient becomes infected as a result of contact with an infected animal (15). Person-to-person transmission occurs via close personal contact with an infected individual or their body fluids during the late stages of infection or after death (1, 2, 15, 27). Nosocomial infections can occur through contact with infected body fluids due to the reuse of unsterilized syringes, needles, or other medical equipment contaminated with these fluids (1, 2). Humans may be infected by handling sick or dead non-human primates and are also at risk when handling the bodies of deceased humans in preparation for funerals, suggesting possible transmission through aerosol droplets (2, 6, 28). In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated (1, 6,13). The importance of this route of transmission is not clear. Poor hygienic conditions can aid the spread of the virus (6).
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php
h/t to somewhere I read this morning in a video.
But but but! It's a different strain!
Seriously, once every ebola-infected person is dead, all the bats in west africa should be wiped off the map.
Oh, for heaven's sake, bats are vital part of the ecosystem. Maybe they should just stop eating them (and monkeys).
Or cook them before eating and use common sense when butchering animals. Of course, asking niggers to use common sense is a lost cause.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Again, what's with the WHO/CDC CHART FRAUD The green circle should be 3 times as big - it's ONE outbreak.
Something seems awry with this whole situation. Namely, the incubation period and vectors of transmission don't seem to fit the discourse from the governments. Media seems to be overall conspicuously silent. And we know they are given their scripts (everybody remembers the "It's okay, you can admit it, if you've bought one, or two, or ten for yourself" from last Christmas.)
There are a lot of "what if's" here. Forums of discussion need to be open so people can make the right decisions to protect themselves and their families.
Yes but what if they desire the culling and this is their agent?
It's not unthinkable, certainly. But in a way it doesn't really matter: what is, is. Survival is what counts.
At this point it seems to me a waste of energy to try and figure out the details, regardless of whether this is natural or man-made.
What's important is to try to get a handle on what's going on locally and on the ground. We may only have a short window of opportunity before this becomes pandemic, in which case the details will matter even less.
Or, it could just be a false alert.
Given the evolution since last week, it would appear to me that the situation will be much more dramatic in a couple weeks' time.
I'm lucky to have a couple fingers on pulses that most do not have from a wife who runs a clinic, knows an entire ER of Nurses in NYC and we have a cousin who is the Head of the Epidemiology Dept at Emory U. Nothing yet from them, but I'll know before Yahoo! tells you.
But the word "yet" ...
We'd be appreciative if you do get any important information.
No warnings given here in ohio to the clinics. My wife's boss asked "What's Ebola?' My wife has worked in Sierra Leone travel nursing. It's ripe for viral outbreak and I agree with the other poster that the numbers there are probably 3-5 times what is reported. I think this strain is new and airborne. Too many medical worker deaths not to be. They do share gloves and clothing there so that may account for some. if our friends start seeing an uptick in cases or "tests" for those showing signs, I will be here dispensing info. Could be nothing or it could be something nasty. My wife and i have both been having apocalyptic dreams as of late. Could just be the whirlwind of shit we find ourselves. I am in my 40s and i have never seen this much crap in so many places around the world.
Agreed and thanks for the info so far. In my mid 30s and can't remember a time like this either. I am fortunate to have established myself enough to be able to prepare mentally, physically and financially, which is more than I can say for a lot of peers in my age group. The situation is certainly becoming entropic.
me too...good luck
Sounds so Biblical. Right on schedule!!!
My daughter is a nurse in a Cincinnati area hospital. I'll report any unreported news as it becomes available.
Stasteside
My wife is also a nurse at a major hospital in the Hampton Roads VA area near the ports of Norfolk. Will also keep all posted.
Iridium:
Please keep us posted if you hear anything. I'm in my 50's. I've seen crap in the world - it's just getting a hell of a lot closer to home than it ever has.
The black swans are circling and the chickens are headed home - and they are infected with some bad shit.
It is totally irresponsible, if not even criminal, that official sources keep hammering on the "bodily fluids and close contact" key. The number of HCW and nosocomial transmissions is a huge red flag, and asymptomatic vectoring seems more and more likely.
The virus is spread by flies. They land on the infected dead and sick. They then land on food, other propel, etc. So it is airborne! Hope for an early winter and avoid eating food in open areas where it and you can be contaminated.
Your welcome.
I suspect I will be hammer-fucked very soon for sharing this info.
That thought came to me suddenly the other day but in a completely unscientific way. Have you got anything official to back up that claim? It makes sense.
No, but if you are looking for a similar pattern with another viral haemorrhagic fever that is popular in the same neighborhood, check behind door #3...
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/yellowfev/en/
Yellow fever (YF) is a viral haemorrhagic fever transmitted by infected mosquitoes.
There are three types of transmission cycle: sylvatic, intermediate and urban. All three cycles exist in Africa, but in South America, only sylvatic and urban yellow fever occur.
Sylvatic (or jungle) yellow fever occurs in tropical rainforests where monkeys, infected by sylvatic mosquitoes, pass the virus onto other mosquitoes that feed on them; these mosquitoes, in turn bite and infect humans entering the forest. This produces sporadic cases, the majority of which are often young men working in the forest e.g. logging.
The intermediate cycle of yellow fever transmission occurs in humid or semi-humid savannahs of Africa, and can produce small-scale epidemics in rural villages. Semi-domestic mosquitoes infect both monkey and human hosts and increased contact between man and infected mosquito leads to disease. This is the most common type of outbreak seen in recent decades in Africa.
Urban yellow fever results in large explosive epidemics when travellers from rural areas introduce the virus into areas with high human population density. Domestic mosquitoes, most notably Aedes aegypti, carry the virus from person to person. These outbreaks tend to spread outwards from one source to cover a wide area.
I think I will be investing in some extra bug spray. Thanks for the info.
Why has the CDC got patent rights for this and why aren't they producing the medicine....
The 1% already have theirs... do you still really think they care about the other 99%??
They patented the viral genome, not the cure.
Of course, they could synthesize up some of it if you'd like to voluteer, and see if it gives you immunity. You'll have to stay in ths negative-pressure room while you wait...
For a serious answer, read the comments from Miffed, up-thread. They don't have a vaccine, partly because this virus is extra-tricky, but mostly because there aren't many scientists who want to mess with it. Up until now, it was only known from sporadic outbreaks that killed less than a thousandth as many people as flu kills every year. It is a dramatic, scary disease, but not a very common one. There are several other such diseases, deadly, mostly tropical, sporadic, rare, and unresearched, because microbiologists are mostly smart and not suicidal.
Now it is suddenly more common, so maybe some research will get done. Here's hoping for a quick vaccine.
Awoman living in La Plata County tested positive for bubonic plague on Friday.
It’s the first case of bubonic plague in the county since 2006, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20140808/NEWS01/140809596/0/News/Lo...
KENYA: Suspected Ebola Patient Isolated in an Ambulancehttp://www.iq4news.com/iq4news-kenya/kenya-suspected-ebola-patient-isola...
Ghana May Now Have Recorded Her First Case of Ebolahttp://accrareport.com/news/ghana-may-now-have-recorded-her-first-case-o...
No way in hell Ghana's first case of ebola would appear in the Upper East Region, unless it drove south from Ouagadougou in Burkina Faso. Following up on what barre-de-rire said above, if that's ebola they're missing some other cases...
from the article i posted:
Since I'm obviously illiterate, then I must be psychic to have figured that out...
But regardless of which side of the "border" the unfortunate victim usually resided on before death, it doesn't explain where he picked up a virus that is supposedly 500 miles as the crow flies away from where he was.
(a 500-mile radius from Washington DC could be anywhere from Maine to Indiana to South Carolina)
+1 ;-)
well, the tests still need to confirm he had ebola. maybe this is just a false alarm, like the other recent suspected cases:
but, they shouldn't have let the family bring his dead body back to burkina faso:
maybe this guy was also fishing and living near liberia during the last few weeks?
http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/ghana-authorities-iss...
"A woman living in La Plata County tested positive for bubonic plague on Friday." Treated with antibiotics, I believe. Bubonic is not unknown in the U.S.
British Airways and Emirates stop flights to West Africa. Hope the US will follow suit. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/497380/Ebola-Nigeria-Emergency-Briti...
There is so much shit going on right now the only thing to do is buy stocks.
Well I killed it on CONX & TKMR on Friday. Buy the panic.
Both actions and news reports are muted because if international travel is brought to a standstill to avert the spread of ebola, then we can be sure that we will hav a financial tsunami thanks to the over indebted airline industry collapsing.
If you can, STOCK UP on food, drink, meds and supplies. Don't tell anyone and hide them from looters.
Also ,avoid boating trips until further notice.
If you can, STOCK UP and prepare to hunker down. Maybe it will happen and maybe it won't but how can it hurt if you're prepared for it?
If it really gets out of hand, one wonders who will be gathering the dead bodies for burial? Then what happens?
We all go to Boulder Free Zone.
Or Las Vegas.
Depends. What dreams have you been having?
m-o-o-n that spells moon
I would go as fast as I can and as far as I can from either of those places. The first thing they did was set up government and start ordering people around.
Humans are social pack animals and our brains are hard-wired to determine and respect / challenge social hierarchy.
But free will remains a special trump card.
Then you have typhus, cholera,dysentry,etc etc to finish you off if you survive the ebola.
Mother nature will kick you when you're down.
"If it really gets out of hand, one wonders who will be gathering the dead bodies for burial? Then what happens?"
Gasoline and matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXeHWRmn6u4
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/07/08/us-bioweapons-lab-in-sierra-leone-at-the-epicentre-of-ebola-outbreak/
time to start a betting pool. frieden said 50 cdc workers were en route to west africa. guess the number of those workers who become infected with ebola. I'll take lucky 13.
put me down for 21
I'll raise ya to 47... the other three will panic and run for their lives.
He who panics first...
Would 51 be possible?
57 just like the number of US states according to Obama.
33
Put me down for 8 that bring it back to the U.S.
"It appears things are not going according to plan..."
So tell me, what is the plan that things are not going according to????????????
from the nytimes:
KENEMA, Sierra Leone — So many patients, nurses and health workers have died in the government hospital that many people in this city, a center of the world’s worst Ebola epidemic, see it as a death trap.
Now, the wards are empty in the principal institution fighting the disease. Ebola stalks the city, claiming lives every day, but patients have fled the hospital’s long, narrow buildings, which sit silent and echoing in the fading light. Few people are taking any chances by coming here.
“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”...
The NY Times and liberals still support the Open Borders Kenyah 110%. F them. I hope they all get ebola.
Sierra Leone must have a lot of gold and oil that Soros and the other dual citizen types want to steal. The Soros-Gates Virus Center probably cooked it up.
http://eiti.org/SierraLeone
Wow. Oil, gold, diamonds, bauxite, iron ore and more. Who knew? They just need to get rid of all those pesky black people.
So I'll pose the same question I did yesterday-
8 [or now more] of those dead are from Kenema Government Hospital, including Dr. Sheik Humarr Khan. If ~4% of their patients since 2006 tested positive for ebola antibodies, it is reasonable to assume that they unknowingly treated a substantial number of ebola patients over the last 8 years in West Africa, and the facility's safety protocols were generally effective, until this year. Why?
" it is reasonable to assume that they unknowingly treated a substantial number of ebola patients over the last 8 years in West Africa, and the facility's safety protocols were generally effective, until this year. Why?"
Viral evolution? The question may eventually be answered by virologists who go back and reconstruct the story.
63 health workers in Liberia have been infected so far, he said, with more than 30 deaths... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/world/africa/dont-touch-the-walls-ebol...
Suspected case in Bawku, Ghana
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=320525
NYU cancels abroad program in Ghana
http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2014/08/08/ebola-epidemic-worsens-as-nyu-a...
Zambia bars entry of West African travelers
https://news.yahoo.com/zambia-bars-entry-citizens-ebola-countries-172135...
Saudi case tentatively confirmed negative
https://news.yahoo.com/deceased-saudi-negative-ebola-first-test-results-...
Epidemic Intelligence Service
http://time.com/3094769/inside-the-cdcs-emergency-operations-center-tack...
Potential ebola case at Garki Hospital in Abuja, Nigeria
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=76055
Nigerian oil firm NNPC shuts clinic after admitting suspected case
https://news.yahoo.com/nigerian-oil-firm-shuts-clinic-suspected-ebola-ca...
Nigerian taekwondo tournament postponed
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-ebola-outbreak-taekwond...
DoD sets up ebola task force
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140807/NEWS/308070077
GlaxoSmithKline may begin clinical trial of vaccine next month
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/ebola-vaccine-to-trial/1305392...
China to send experts to region
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-08/09/c_133544636.htm
Suspected case with Malian national in Ourossogui, Senegal
http://www.seneweb.com/news/Sante/ebola-un-cas-suspect-mis-en-quarantain...
Possible case in Dakar, Senegal
http://www.seneweb.com/news/Sante/cas-suspect-d-rsquo-ebola-a-l-rsquo-ho...
Cotonou, Benin awaits two test results
https://news.yahoo.com/benin-waiting-test-results-two-possible-ebola-cas...
Possible case in Bucharest, Romania (man returned from Nigeria 25 July)
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2014/08/10/97001-20140810FILWWW00090-e...
K, done posting this shit as it's obviously hit the fan; hopefully they keep it contained to West Africa...
"Upon being told he had Ebola, Mr. Sawyer went into a rage, denying and objecting to the opinion of the medical experts “He was so adamant and difficult that he took the tubes from his body and took off his pants and urinated on the health workers, forcing them to flee."The hospital would later report that it resisted immense pressure to let out Sawyer from its hospital against the insistence from some higher-ups and conference organizers that he had a key role to play at the ECOWAS convention in Calabar, the Cross River State capital."
http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/28404/54/patrick-sawyer-knew-he-was-inf...
Thank goodness a security guard resisted putting a bullet in Dr. Sawyer's head.
I enjoy the discussions and posts. I don't have anything to contribute except to say thanks and to let folks know there are folks like me checking in who are glad to see some conversation, links, and so forth regarding this topic. Don't trust many other places and this crew I know how to "sort out" in terms of alarmism vs. realism. Thanks again one and all.
Ms., in regard to what we can do... Some farm boy musings.
1. Prep. This may not be the big one, but the big one's coming. We all see things spinning out of control.
2. Get out of the cities. They are death traps. Easier said than done, but it's only your life and the lives of those you love.
3. Forget the Docs and go Alt Med. Hedgeless and his Frau are great at this. I'm sure they'll weigh in. Some preliminaries.
Ebola depletes electrolytes. Keep some gator aid around.
Ebola destroys blood vessels. Modest amounts of Vitamin E and selenium will support blood vessels. Don't over do it. Too much E will thin the blood and lower pressure, which leads to,
Modest amounts of Vitamin C, which helps healing. Overdosing on C will give you diarrhea, and deplete calcium, which you need for blood clotting. That's a start. I'm sure we can add to the list.
4. Breath. As cougar says, we have time (maybe). We are not trying to out run the bear. We are trying to move faster than the lazy, dizzy, lard assed Wal-mart shoppers, who should try to run, but won't;)
8/7 - Mexico Ministry of Health reports first confirmed case of Ebola. Location: Mexico City... Patient is 1 of 22 students who traveled to Africa for vacation. http://threatjournal.com/
Since the release of reports of a case of Ebola in Mexico city, the government of Mexico has been pushing back hard in denial. We caution readers that given chaotic border situation, the complicity of the Mexican government in allowing and even facilitating the ongoing flow of individuals from around the world through their country and to the border relatively unchallenged, as well as the clear desire of Federal and State officials on this side of the border to facilitate the same, it would be expected that there would be an outpouring of effort to squash any notion of Ebola in Mexico.
For more authoritative information on the dangerous public health threats facing the U.S. as a result of existing border security policy, watch the interview below with Zack Taylor, Chairman of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers (NAFBPO).
Yep, and these workers will go straight to work at chicken, beef and every other food processing plant you can think of, to do the work, "Americans" don't want to do.
When the criminals er, illegals, er, plague carriers come to Amerika, they will need a place to camp out.
May I suggest, the Rose Garden?
This article mentions the official refutation
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldemexico/notas/n3496087.htm
Same Dr., in panic control mode
http://www.latintimes.com/could-ebola-reach-mexico-mexican-health-offici...
Cthonic
Boilerplate space filler says nothing about West African students who are reported to have entered Mexico. Three monkeys approach to public health.
The virus is spread by flies. They land on the infected dead and sick. They then land on food, other propel, etc. So it is airborne! Hope for an early winter and avoid eating food in open areas where it and you can be contaminated.
Your welcome.
I suspect I will be hammer-fucked very soon for sharing this info.
aids lives a long time in syringes. no reason to think ebola doesn't survive inside flies and mosquitos. this disease just permeates the environment. inside houses, buildings, surfaces, insects, medical equipment, corpses, muddy water, sewage, etc.. the end is near.
buzzsaw99
Great distances between yourself and others... as in stay home for the duration?
Straight Clorox spray on surfaces, skin, clothing, shoes; wear mask and gloves?
Why do any of these countries have borders? They are all 4th world shitholes with no economies to speak of. Ebola is probably their biggest GDP booster in a long time.
was mt.sanai really a negetive? so many close calls these past few weeks and at least 3 remain a mystery. these suspected cases seemed to have been memory holed with no offical word on test resualts...are we now starting to see a blackout on other suspected cases in the US as well?
we know it is spreading,we also know it has made it out of Africa to the middle east, so where else has it landed? this strain has already proven its ability to travel well beyond all previous barriers and if reporting remains in any way free from restriction, it will be confirmed in three more Arican countries soon.
it also may have spread to India as they are reporting three in isolation, China has gone into full deny mode and has started jailing and imposing fines on those posting stories of confirmed cases from local hospitals. Mexico appears to have one confirmed case though the MSM seems to be ignoring it here for obvious reasons. now Canada has one possible in isolation right outside of Toronto.
so are we now in the deny, delay, repress, downplay and understate phase of this crises? if this starts, or has started as a slow burn outbreak that approach will work...at least for a while.
but then we have all seen this movie before and well...you know what they say about art and life.
If the Mt. Sinai case was, in fact, positive it makes sense that they wouldn't publicize it. Many people outside of Africa are following this story (the Tylers aren't stupid - Ebola has been great for pageviews here at Zerohedge and there is a reason that every other media outlet including Drudge, CNN, CNBC and all of the British tabloids are pimping this thing hard - its got a very big, very nervous audience) and if there are cases "next door" people are going to panic, hoard and generally change behaviors.
That said, if there are more cases and/or the person in Ontario or Mt. Sinai has Ebola, its going to be hard to keep it from the public. Healthcare workers will talk and the wonderful thing about the internet is that, while the signal to noise ratio is very low, the signals do get out. People will find out eventually - this is what gives me hope there aren't actual cases in these places yet.
Its also good to see that BA suspended flights in and out of some West African nations. I cannot imagine their pilots and flight attendants are keen on going there and/or potentially being exposed to those with the virus. I suspect other airlines will follow suit shortly. If they do this, the rest of the world has a shot at this thing not spreading widely. Fingers crossed (I am not part of the ZH crowd that cheers on something like this in the hope of a "reset").