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Putin Defies Western Warning, Will Send "Aid Convoy" To East Ukraine

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This may get messy.

Following days of loud warnings by the West that Putin should not take any moves to send "humanitarian" aid into East Ukraine, due to western fears that this would be merely a pretext for invasion, Putin said on Monday that Russia will go ahead and send an aid convoy to eastern Ukraine anyway.

As was reported earlier, Ukraine announced that Russia has amassed 45,000 troops on its border, following by the now-daily NATO threat that there was a "high probability" that Moscow could intervene militarily in the country's east, so to many this is just the catalyst that the Kremlin could use to enter the civil war-ridden territory to support ethnic Russians, but ultimately to conduct yet another "Crimea." As a reminder, despite the constant grumblings by the West and certainly Kiev, there is zero probability that the annexed territory will be relinquished by Putin. As a further reminder, it was the emergence of local mysterious "peacekeepers" that made the annexation of Crimea a quick and painless transition, one in which not a shot was fired. The concern is that that was merely the appetizer with the shale-rich Donbass region serving as the main course.

According to Reuters, European Commission President Barroso "delivered a blunt message in a telephone call with Putin on Monday. "President Barroso warned against any unilateral military actions in Ukraine, under any pretext, including humanitarian," the Commission said in a statement."  

The Kremlin, in its own account of the conversation, made clear that Moscow would indeed send help to largely Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine. We also doubt very much that Putin cared much if at all about any warnings uttered by the unelected Eurocrat.

"It was noted that the Russian side, in collaboration with representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross, is sending an aid convoy to Ukraine," the Kremlin statement said, without saying when the convoy was going.

And now that Putin's mind is made up, Ukraine has no choice but to accept, albeit with its so-called conditions:

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said he supported an aid mission but made clear it had to be an international effort under the aegis of the Red Cross, involving the European Union as well as Russia. Poroshenko said U.S. President Barack Obama had also backed the international plan when they spoke on the telephone on Monday.

 

The International Committee of the Red Cross made no immediate comment, although last weekend it issued a statement acknowledging receipt of an offer from Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov about organizing aid convoys.

Surely Russia will closely "heed" Ukraine's conditions.

To be sure, NATO is displeased. Quote its Secretary General Rasmussen: "We see the Russians developing the narrative and the pretext for such an operation under the guise of a humanitarian operation, and we see a military build-up that could be used to conduct such illegal military operations in Ukraine," he said.

And yet, Russia appears set to enter east Ukraine despite NATO objections.

It goes without saying that all it would take for a full blown escalation, one that not even the algo-driven market could ignore, would be a Russian casualty operating in Ukraine under a "humanitarian" umbrella, wether legitimate or due to a "false flag" attack, before the facade of artificial stability on Ukraine's east border crumbles and what was until now a civil war morps into a full-blown international conflict.

Update 1: the readout of the Obama-Poroshenko phone call:

The President spoke this morning with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko about the ongoing crisis in eastern Ukraine.  President expressed his strong support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.  The two leaders agreed that any Russian intervention in Ukraine without the formal, express consent and authorization of the Ukraine government would be unacceptable and a violation of international law.  President Poroshenko also noted the continued shelling of Ukraine’s territory from Russia.  President Poroshenko updated the President on his engagement with the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) on the effort to deliver multilateral humanitarian aid to the distressed populations in eastern Ukraine.  The President noted the urgency of such humanitarian efforts and encouraged President Poroshenko to continue to exercise restraint and caution in military operations in order to avoid civilian casualties.  In light of the ongoing violence and instability, the President and President Poroshenko agreed that all parties should prioritize diplomatic efforts toward finding a political resolution to the crisis.

Update 2: From RIA:

 

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Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:48 | 5077205 davidalan1
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Good Lord,

 

Lets get it on already, enough stalling....

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:50 | 5077233 JaKst3r
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Need to have it over before the gas comes back on!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:53 | 5077248 knukles
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Booyah!  Buy the fucking nuclear holocaust.

                            Arms for Armageddontm

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:54 | 5077268 MagicHandPuppet
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:56 | 5077284 negative rates
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Who's not yawning at the warnings by now??

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:00 | 5077311 JaKst3r
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You can always take shelter under that table...

https://archive.org/details/Survival1951

See the flash and dash for cash/phyz :)

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:05 | 5077344 ZerOhead
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Didn't 400 Ukrainian troops invade Russian territory a week or so ago?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/04/more-than-400-ukrainian-soldiers...

What is Vlad waiting for?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:07 | 5077371 JaKst3r
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Desertion is different from invasion... allegedly.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:11 | 5077406 7.62x54r
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They wanted to be Dreamers.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:24 | 5077527 Four chan
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he should putin his troops and quit stalin. we wont go obaman to protect them.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:32 | 5077582 VATICANT
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it's about to blow!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:16 | 5077991 strannick
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America can sent aid/arms, but nobody else can

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:31 | 5077585 VATICANT
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it's about to blow!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:38 | 5077652 CuttingEdge
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As funny is the fact that the following story has been buried by the MSM - they really are a fucking joke these days.

Malaysians point the finger at the Ukrainian government over the downing of MH 17:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Malaysian-press-charges-Uk-by-Alex-Lant...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:48 | 5077745 socalbeach
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Here's an image capture of a Malaysian New Straits Times article on MH17 in case anyone missed it when I posted it on a different thread.

https://kosmologelei.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/nst06082014-page6.jpg

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:31 | 5078109 froze25
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I just finished reading that, very informative unlike the bull shit the main stream press has been pushing.  I can sum up that as "Russia bad, very bad".  Now don't get me wrong here the Russian elite and the American Elite will use this as a means to reduce freedoms for thier people on both sides.  The only diffrence I see is that it seems that the Russian elites still want a people to rule over while the American / EU elite's / Banksters are going full blown retard with thier population reduction Agenda 21 plan.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:18 | 5077472 free_lunch
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What if this is all a big play? Just like the blue team/red team show?

This article makes one wonder:

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/05/putin-controls-the-fate-of-...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:42 | 5077681 10mm
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+1 free_lunch.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:44 | 5077708 VATICANT
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You should note Hodges' analysis of a russian invasion of ukraine, published april how in 72hrs Putin will control the east AND west ukraine

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:56 | 5077826 general ambivalent
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If they controlled that much territory then it wouldn't matter, they wouldn't need a ploy. It would be clamp down and wait out in the elysium time.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:29 | 5078090 sleigher
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I have thought the same thing.  The only one who is going to free us from what we find ourselves in is us.  We the people.  Until then it is all controlled bullshit.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:47 | 5078233 ebear
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Bill of Goods.

Bankers control both sides is just more propaganda designed to keep you quiet.  A clever ruse, nonetheless, since anyone investigating these events is by nature a skeptic and would likely buy into it.

How about this? There are no conspiracy theories that aren't fostered and controlled by the NWO PTB.  This follows from Bankers control both sides, so if you accept the former, the later is also likely true.

Conspiracy theories aside, it's apparent that:

1. Given its vast territories and position as a major oil producer, Russia has the potential to re-emerge as a world power challenging present US hedgemony.

2. The US is doing everything in its power to prevent this from happening.

Start there, and the rest falls into place.

FWIW, I believe a group of staunch nationalists, centered around Putin and the former KGB apparatus are doing everything they can to prevent a takeover of Russia by western financial interests, thus reducing Russia to just another client state.  This group emerged as a reaction to the blatant post-soviet power grab of certain western aligned oligarchs under Boris Yeltsin.

It's not that complicated really, and if you study the history of The Cold War, you'll see many similarities to the present situation.

To close, I'll paraphrase Stalin in regard to the alleged banker cabal:  

How many divisions do they have?

Bankers are a nice distraction and an easy scapegoat when things go awry, but they are by no means the whole story.   

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 16:57 | 5078641 Freddie
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Soros has been involved in eastern Europe and Russia for a long time and is behind Kiev as is McCain/Obama/NWO.   Someone financed the oligarchs to buy up aka steal and loot Russian industry and it was probably Soros and the Red Shield plus other dual citizens.

Putin started taking it all back and driving them to London, Israel and othe places.

Putin has some moles within Russia still working for the oligarchs and NWO trying to thwart him and the nationalists.  America has no nationalists.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 17:37 | 5078837 free_lunch
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Bankers are on top of the hierarchy, they rule the world everything else is distraction. International bankers are not bound to borders or countries..

The Banker Aires His Views On The Right Of The Elite To Control Everyones Lives.:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX4dBEF0Vg

 

 

 

A List of Goldman Sachs Ties to the Obama Government

 

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 00:24 | 5080570 UrbanMiner
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Hodges investigative depth is lacking, his suppositions are based on his own circular reasoning of what he believes is happening. Russia is without question, besides the United States, the most powerful military and information gathering power on earth. Russia has spies and infiltrators just as the U.S. does, they have stealth submarines off the U.S and European coasts, they have hackers with code ready to trip the western markets, they have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, spy satellites and space based capabilities, hidden technology - just as the U.S - and advanced war research programs. The myth of the hardly functioning Russian military (which Russia coyly fosters) was true a decade ago, the reality now is much different. The bankers cannot just assasinate Putin, if they do they will be murdered one by one, or four by four, or by whatever means is deemed necessary. What you have is a balance of power, not so much in overall strength, but in the ability to deflect and use extreme force when needed.

 

As far as banning Russian oil, there is a little problem with that, demand is outstripping supply, where is Germany going to get the oil to run her economy if not from Russia who supplies 30-35% of it now? The bankers need stable and controlled markets, that is their infrastructure of control, if you threaten the market or it's mechanisms of control than the military and CIA operations begin - halting oil flows threatens the stability of the control mechanisms that are needed to keep the Empire at the pinnacle of control. The bankers are not omniscient, they are old family occultists, yes, but they have a hard time with the rebel spirit that resides in certain peoples, try as they may, they always seem to be thwarted in the end by the imperious human spirit. 

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 22:30 | 5080269 Gandulf
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The Fogh of War will be having anxiety attacks right about now. Libya proved he doesn't do humanitarian.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:55 | 5077272 McMolotov
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Donkey Kong, bitchez.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:00 | 5077320 Renewable Life
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Lol
The West doesn't have the money nor the balls to rumble with Putin on the mans fucking border, get real!!

And for the record, we shouldn't even be fucking around over there at all in the first place, I'll be getting my Putin shirt too, if they even try that shit!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:23 | 5077478 Pure Evil
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What are you talking about. They're setting up Vlad so that he'll be distracted in Ukraine while the US bombs ISIS all the way into Syria.

Looks like Qatar is finally gonna get its pipeline built.

Wouldn't doubt the US could give two fly squats less about E. Ukraine as long as they get Syria in the process.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:36 | 5078149 froze25
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I wouldn't be so sure about that.  Don't forget that Biden's son is making some money over there now with Ukrain Nat Gas.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:37 | 5078162 Crash N. Burn
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Say, you don't suppose the reason they're (Russia/China) getting the cold shoulder all of a sudden might have something to do with a certain banking idea?

Putin Blamed for #MH17 to Launch Attack on BRICS World Bank

 

Nah, couldn't be.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:56 | 5077279 NoDebt
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"I would like to have seen Montana."

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:58 | 5077304 McMolotov
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At this point, Captain Ramius would probably regret his decision to defect.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:14 | 5077429 r00t61
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If Tom Clancy were still alive, he'd have to write a new book called "The Hunt For Edward Snowden," in which the good and bad guys were reversed.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 22:42 | 5080323 MontgomeryScott
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"I would like to have seen Montana."

NO SHIT, BUCKAROOS.

No 'travel passes'...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:13 | 5077423 beaglebog
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Don't fret ... Montana will come to you.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:55 | 5077281 7.62x54r
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Fuck me. I live near a US nuc base.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:11 | 5077404 FeralSerf
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Don't worry. Those nukes will be for a good cause.

You may want to practice the KAGB (Kiss Ass Good Bye) maneuver. You never know when it might come in handy.

Long uranium.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 16:20 | 5078431 Captain Jack Sparrow
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I went long uranium when australia approved export to india then 3 days later a tsunami hit fukushima and i lost 90% of my investment. Its all timing fukn stock market :(

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 19:30 | 5079411 Grumbleduke
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there is no market.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:16 | 5077453 joego1
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They are humanitarian nukes, see the red cross on them?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:18 | 5077469 joego1
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You should change to nato ammo there will be a lot laying around after the nukes start flying.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:47 | 5078237 e_goldstein
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Not for much longer.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 16:05 | 5078347 Hulk
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You should increase your heat shielding 500% ASAP ...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:58 | 5077282 Pegasus Muse
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Paul Craig Roberts:  Washington’s Ukrainian Stooges Shot Down The Malaysian Airliner

It is as we thought–another Washington crime and lie designed to drive the world toward more war. 

Malaysian press charges Ukraine government shot down MH 17

A Thursday article in the New Straits Times, Malaysia’s flagship English-language newspaper, charged the US- and European-backed Ukrainian regime in Kiev with shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 in east Ukraine last month.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/08/11/24695/

=====

OpEdNews Op Eds 8/9/2014 at 23:17:06 

Malaysian press charges Ukraine government shot down MH17

http://tinyurl.com/ks5xuad

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:02 | 5077334 TeethVillage88s
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And yet we have to bear all the US control Freaks who define "Histrionics"

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:51 | 5077756 ZerOhead
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I bet the Malaysians are kicking themselves in the ASS for handing over the Cockpit Voice Recorder to the Dutch who then for some reason handed it over to British who probably gave it to MI6 and the CIA.

Nobody else had any speaker plug ins or headphones apparently...

 

They have the kit to analyse in minute detail what can be heard in the last few minutes of flight MH17. The information is incredibly sensitive so investigators gather in a sealed room so that only those who should be listening can listen.

There are four speakers on the walls creating a surround sound - anything to help the investigators hear exactly what went on. They may even hear any explosion.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28424115

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:55 | 5077822 Bastiat
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Four Speakers?>??!!!!  Surround sound?!@!!!   Whoa, dude!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:02 | 5077882 ZerOhead
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It's a fucking JOKE.

 

The Dutch couldn't find four speakers.

Anyway everybody is still probably locked in the room or they would have told us by now.

Don't want anybody who shouldn't find out what happened to find out now would we?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:08 | 5077935 Bastiat
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I'm not sure about the possibility about non-destructive downloads from a black box. If it's possible, Putin's got the content.  And the Russian's probably have a sealed room with 4 speakers and surround sound too.  If that's true, that might give them  pause about releasing any lies. 

Same goes for the ATC tapes seized by Porky.  You would have to be very naiive to assume that the Russians haven't been intercepting everything in the electromagnetic spectrum coming out of Ukraine  (including, of course ATC, something a kid with a shortwave can pick up). 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 16:09 | 5078355 ZerOhead
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I agree.

If it's possible then he's got it and that's why they are waiting. That said nothing ever was released from all those 9/11 data and voice recorders etiher... found or unfound. The media message has already been deeply burned into the public psyche. Mission accomplished!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:43 | 5078147 tony wilson
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four speaker rorors technographys

wood dat bee dobly surrounded sounds or george locust thx 666 sounds do youse nose?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:05 | 5077907 Boogity
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Yeah... It's a total disonnect that the Russkie Seperatists handed the Black Boxes over to the Malaysians without assurances that only neutral third parties would be allowed to analyze their data.   This is why I am prone to speculate that, during the nearly one week of elasped time between crash and when the Black Boxes were handed over, the Russians had already downloaded and copied the data, just in case the EU/ NATO investigators try to BS the world.   If not, this was potentially a monumental screw-up by Putin and Russia.  

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 17:32 | 5078821 JohninMK
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There are no neutral third parties to analyse the tapes.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:33 | 5078124 Raisuli
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Quadraphrenetic?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:23 | 5077444 Real Estate Geek
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That second link goes to a guest column on PCR's site.  FYI, notwithstanding its caption, the pic in that column is clearly of a B-727, not a B-777 which, in my mind, means that the column's author has lost all credibility.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:57 | 5077837 sportivny
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PCR has been off base in this conflict, keeps calling Kiev "Nazi Hunta", while it's Putin's biker buddies Puttin on Nazi marches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh1LxgHTRIA#t=45

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:19 | 5078013 The Phallic Crusader
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oh, you're off base alright...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 16:03 | 5078334 Crash N. Burn
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"keeps calling Kiev "Nazi Hunta""

Could this be why:

"Ukraine war criminal Yaroslav Stetsko. Stetsko personally oversaw, reports Salon, the murder of 7,000 Jews.

In 1941 he marched into Kiev with the SS and issued a proclamation praising “glory to the German leader Adolf Hitler”. President Reagan brought Stetsko to the White House and told him: “Your struggle is our struggle. Your dream is our dream”.

Stetsko led the Ukraine Nazi group OUN-B that formed the infamous Nachtigall Battalion. His group went from town to town liquidating entire Jewish, Polish as well as Ukrainian populations, in total murdering some half a million.

Stetsko’s notorious head of secret police Mykola Lebed, writes the book Hitler's Shadow, was convicted of murdering Poland’s Interior Minister.

The group’s publications called for “ethno-genetically pure Ukrainian territory” in other words “purging Poles and Jews”.

CIA deputy Allen Dulles wrote this letter to the Immigration Commissioner demanding to “assure Mykola Lebed’s re-entry into the United States without investigation, which would attract undue attention to his activities”.

Foreign Policy In Focus notes Lebed and Stetsko were just two of around 10,000 East European Nazi accomplices brought to the US.

CIA documents reveal paying massive salaries to Nazi war criminals such as Lebed, and called them Ukraine’s “government in exile” waiting for the right time.

These groups’ time has arrived. Organizations liked Lebed’s OUN-B have merged under the party today called Svoboda. Ukrainian national politicians now flock to these Svoboda ceremonies with soldiers in Nazi uniforms honoring SS war criminals.

Elected Svoboda officials renamed a Western Ukraine street from Peace to Nachtigall, the battalion that massacred Jews in Ukraine and Belarus.

Svoboda is led by Mr. Tyagnibok. The Simon Wiesenthal Center in 2012 named him one of the world’s five worst anti-Semites, who calls for “purging” Ukraine of its last 400,000 Jews.

Tyagnibok’s endorsed by John McCain and assistant secretary of state Vic Nuland, who in a leaked conversation was caught nominating Ukraine’s post-coup leaders. Her reward for Svoboda’s violence in the coup d’état was six cabinet posts, the first Nazis in government since the Third Reich."

NATO's 'Gladio' army in Ukraine

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:17 | 5077454 FeralSerf
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It makes one proud to know one is a member of The Good Guys.

There must have been a tearist on MH 17 that somehow escaped Dutch-Israeli security.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:18 | 5077470 Urban Redneck
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source links

http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925

which cites

http://www.globalresearch.ca/flight-mh17-shoot-down-scenario-shifts/5394746

HTTP!, works for me, but apparently not PCR, opednews, or the NST...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:21 | 5077497 rwe2late
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 UK PM Cameron will be sure the black box recordings are released

as soon as possible to collaborate ... err, corroborate with Kiev's control tower tapes.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:53 | 5077802 ZerOhead
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They never released the 9/11 flight data and cockpit voice recordings either so don't hold your breath waiting.

The debate is over... the evidence is clear... Global Warming will kill us all...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 16:45 | 5078565 roadhazard
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Might as well blame the West because ain't no rebels got no money.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:58 | 5077309 smlbizman
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its not the aid thats the problem..its the delivery.....it should be dropped from 30k feet and make big fucking holes when the smoke clears...thats how you deliver aid...com' on vlad...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:37 | 5078165 HyperinflatmyNutts
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Putin tells Obummer and the Zionist E.U. goons

 

http://youtu.be/J0YMyvM5a8Y

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 17:57 | 5078901 BlindMonkey
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"Need to have it over before the gas comes back on!"

Who run Bartertown? Life imitates art. Again.

http://youtu.be/Hgq4w4dqKsU

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:51 | 5077235 Deathrips
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WTF is the big deal?

 

Its just HUMANITARIAN aid....like the US/West donations and weapons to Israel.

 

HUMANITARIAN AIDS like in Iraq.....

 

Some people just dont like help.

 

We will force them to take it.

 

/s/

 

I think Russia is really trying to help preserve its farmland and water table from the nazi fracking loonies.If they can save just one child..itll be better than O and Co have done ...ever.

 

What the west is doing is Sic.

 

RIPS

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:56 | 5077291 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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Being a simpleton as I am, I thought it was unwise for the Americans to order Putin not to do something they clearly have no power to stop him from doing.

 

Good thing, Im not in charge

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:06 | 5077364 Wahooo
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That's generally the wisest course.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:12 | 5077409 Deathrips
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Minding ones own business....imagine that?

 

RIPS

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:16 | 5077446 TheMeatTrapper
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That's why you get Barroso to do it for you - he's the tough guy with the muscle!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:50 | 5078242 tony wilson
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the problem as i see it is we have been to polite with the dishing out of rothscjild orders to putin.

my fallow ameriguns

for the sake of the innocent jews of ukrainia putin must bend

already

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:13 | 5077424 ebworthen
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We can deliver humanitarian aid and 500 lb. bombs 6.000 miles away - but Russia can't send just aid 60 miles away.

U.S.A.!  U.S.A.!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 18:31 | 5079060 BlindMonkey
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We are the only ones that care.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:52 | 5077240 youngman
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Hurry all that food is going to rot.....lol

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:56 | 5077294 oddjob
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Good thing you laughed at that, I doubt anybody else will.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:58 | 5077306 negative rates
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Food never got growing, now assholes, that's another story.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:54 | 5077254 7.62x54r
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We'll see if the Ukes are stupid enough to light up a Russian Red Cross convoy.

Betcha they transmit live coverage of unarmed Red Cross people getting shot up. But Obama will claim they were all Spetznats.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:01 | 5077325 the not so migh...
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obama will say better dead then red,, red cross, red commie, red skins

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:49 | 5077749 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Imbeded spetnaz will return fire on a Blackwater led Svoboda ambush and the tanks will quickly follow the Red Cross into Donbass.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:26 | 5077543 Bloppy
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Luckily Tesla's up another 12, Netflix 9, etc, so NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT HERE. Moarrrrrrrr everything.

Leftist magazine: Ebola scare a right-wing plot, deadly furniture (!) is the real health threat:

http://tinyurl.com/q9gdqa6

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:51 | 5077772 holmes
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How does the army of pencil pushers of European Commission President Barroso stack up against Putin's army?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 18:41 | 5079131 gezley
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Barroso the old marxist is obviously doing everything he can to go out with a bang. We in Europe have known for a long time there is a fifth column in the EU, seeking to destroy it at every turn. That's why the British were so vehemently opposed to Junckers replacing Barrose: because Junckers will do what is good for Europe, not for Anglo-America.

Bye bye Barroso, and good riddance. Same to you "Baroness" Ashton. Get lost.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:57 | 5077838 JRobby
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MOAR WAR!!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:41 | 5078144 HyperinflatmyNutts
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How do you like them APPLES? 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:47 | 5077208 Cattender
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OMFG! How will this Impact the stock market????

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:48 | 5077212 max2205
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It's priced in

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:01 | 5077318 Possible Impact
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"It's priced in"

Rubles or Yuan? :)

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:48 | 5077210 max2205
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You'll recognize it because there will be 40'000 attack helicopters withe the convoy

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:48 | 5077214 The Phallic Crusader
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So it's okay for Tel Aviv to kill a bunch of Arab kids, and okay for Kiev to use Polish and American mercenaries to murder ethnic Russian civilians  (this is all over liveleak)... but an aid convoy is Hitlerian aggression?

 

Is that right?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:56 | 5077275 JenkinsLane
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Got it in one.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:58 | 5077858 JRobby
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As currently spun, yes!

Check back tomorrow. And pay attention because all the demands will be changed then.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:01 | 5077878 DrewJackson
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Links please

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:49 | 5077215 the not so migh...
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Humanitarian ANTI-NAZI FORCE

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:09 | 5077389 Kirk2NCC1701
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The "Nazis" are a MOSSAD - run bunch of Useful Goys/Idiots.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:49 | 5077218 youngman
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To the West aid is water..food..and medicine...to Putin Aid is surface to air missles and ammo

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:56 | 5077285 Dr. Engali
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Last I checked the west was dropping humanitarian bombs on people every opportunity they got.

 

 

Freedom is on the march.

 

 

 

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:57 | 5077295 Aussiekiwi
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Somehow i think the humanitarium aid to the Kurds is going to have a lot more than water, food and medicine. 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:03 | 5077336 Possible Impact
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Are they still using "Depleted Humanitarium" shells?

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:02 | 5077888 Bastiat
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Good one.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:51 | 5078270 e_goldstein
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Are those made from Jimmy Carter?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:00 | 5077314 negative rates
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You must be ready to jump ship by now?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:04 | 5077343 Wahooo
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Young man. Pretty much describes your comment.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:11 | 5077402 agent default
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Kool Aid much?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:41 | 5077678 ChiangMai
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Of 248 armed conflicts since WWII, the USA initiated 201, murdering between 20 and 30 million people, over 90% civilians.

I.e. the USA has murdered, in the past 65 years alone, on average 500,000 people per year.

How many has "Putin" killed? (I believe you mean Russia, though you've adopted the USA propaganda tactic of first demonizing the leader of whatever country it plans to attack, because it's then easier to bamboozle sheeple such as yourself.) 

 

 

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:49 | 5077221 JaKst3r
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Bullish..

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:49 | 5077223 dirtyfiles
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don't fuck with Putin kids

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:33 | 5077605 free_lunch
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Critical thinking should never be paused..

 

Could Putin be a Pawn of the Bankers?

 

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 18:37 | 5079093 gezley
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This is my first post here. I am an Irish Catholic, and you would suppose therefore I should be on the side of Poland and Western Ukraine in this sorry saga. But I am not. I am firmly behind Putin, and for this reason: Vladimir Putin has put his money where his mouth is by defending and promoting Orthodox Christianity in Russia, and indeed worldwide, while the Polish and Ukrainian hotheads have done nothing but kneel down and fellate the Jewish interests who seek and have always sought to destroy Christianity wherever it is making headway. These Jewish interests are behind the attacks on Christianity all over the Middle East today, and they are behind the diabolical attacks on eastern Ukraine for the same reasons. To prevent the rise of Christianity wherever it has a hope of prospering. And the Catholics of Poland and western Ukraine are only too eager to fight on behalf of these interests? Madness. They deserve nothing but scorn and contempt.

Under Putin Russia is spending hundreds of millions restoring Orthodox churches around the country. He is promoting social policies which accord with Christian teaching. What he is doing is completely at odds with what Jewish finance demands as its pound of flesh, and, as I see it, they just don't know how to handle the snub.

So no, Putin is not a pawn of the bankers, or more correctly, Jewish finance; he is very much a thorn in their side. And if you doubt that, look at that age-old barometer which never lies, the barometer which measures a leader by his support of Christianity. No world leader has ever put so much into supporting Christianity while on the side of Jewish finance. If Putin was the pawn of Anglo-American-Jewish finance, he would be doing everything in his power to impede the growth of true Christianity in Russia. The fact that he is doing the very opposite tells me all I need to know about him.

And they are powerless to stop him, because Russia is no Iraq, and Russia is no Libya.

They just didn't see this coming, and to this day they still don't know how to handle it.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 20:37 | 5079762 Stumpy4516
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Interesting concept.  Putin did not protect the Christians in Lybia or Syria very well but that may be due to a weakness is Russia's ability to project.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:51 | 5077232 1000yrdstare
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Vlad is just tryin' to One-up us, cuz we are sending humanitarian aid to the Kurds... its all good!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:51 | 5077237 BORT
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Cue the deer

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:52 | 5077243 order66
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Napolean rides again.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:52 | 5077245 1000yrdstare
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WW3 WILL BE HUMANITARIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:53 | 5077251 IronShield
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The folks in the West must be kinda slow else they would know by now that Putin doesn't give a phuck what they think!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:55 | 5077253 Jethro
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Hillary's foreign policy doctrine.  "What difference does it make?!?!?"

Kerry's foreign policy doctrine, "Do you have a place where I can do some yachting while I'm visiting???"

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:53 | 5077255 Aussiekiwi
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"We see the Russians developing the narrative and the pretext for such an operation under the guise of a humanitarian operation, and we see a military build-up that could be used to conduct such illegal military operations in Ukraine," he said.

OR:

"We see the US developing the narrative and the pretext for such an operation under the guise of a humanitarian operation, and we see a military build-up that could be used to conduct such illegal military operations in Iraq," he said.

They would know all about turning Humanitarian operations into military operations, it's a favorite strategy of the west.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:53 | 5077259 xamax
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MORE BLOOD AND DEAD PLEASE
THEN HIGHER MARKET WHOOOOO

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:08 | 5077260 JailBank
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In red corner coming in at 225 wearing the hammer and sickle shorts out of Moscow, Vlad the Impaler Putin. And in the blue corner fighting out of Kenya, Hawaii, Chicago, Washington DC, and parts unknown. Wearing the Mom Jeans and weighing 165 soak and wet. Barrack "Barry Sorento" Obama.

 

LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMBLE!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:46 | 5077725 free_lunch
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Just saying, stay critical and don't switch of critical thinking just because you want to believe in childish fairytales and Hollywood hero's so much, to save yourself from the possible ugly truth, that there are no good sides, and nobody is defending us powerless citizens, only deceiving and tricking us.. After all who can tell truth from lies?

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/26/putin-is-a-pawn-of-the-bank...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:14 | 5077978 JailBank
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Oh I don't support either of them. I prefer we stay out of this battle. This world has gone even crazier than it was 8 years ago and I fear it will get worse.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:29 | 5078095 lakecity55
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"I don't beleive it, Howard. Barry is going after the groin in the first round!"

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:54 | 5077263 BullyBearish
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I'll really cheer if he sends an Aid Convoy to Gaza

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:55 | 5077266 NOZZLE
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Humanitarian aid would in my mind consist of a map that identifies various places like the EXIM Bank funded porche Dealership in Kiev, make these butchers pay thru the nose for what they have done to civilians.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:55 | 5077283 Boeing Boy
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Ukraine rebels must be facing defeat.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:20 | 5077482 ChiangMai
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Analysis just posted at The Vineyard of the Saker:

 

Neither the worst, nor the best, but time is running out for Novorussia

 

 

 

 

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:55 | 5077269 DogOfSinope
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"Baroso warned..." :-)
Putin must have wondered: "Would someone quiet down this cute but deranged Pug"?
What will Baroso do if Putin ignores his warning? Unleash Van Rompuy?

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 18:46 | 5079150 Escapedgoat
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He could do worse.

He could send Lady Aston. THAT will frighten him

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:59 | 5077297 LawsofPhysics
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If the U.S. can conduct "humanitarian operations" all over the world, I don't see why Russia can't do the same in it's own back yard.

 

("daddy, what is a proxie war?")

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:01 | 5077327 negative rates
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It's when you fight because you're crazy like a fox.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:03 | 5077338 LawsofPhysics
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"It's when you send some other sucker to fight for you because you're crazy like a fox." - fixed.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:06 | 5077361 Bemused Observer
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If the West is getting so upset at the idea of Russia sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine, perhaps it is because the West knows full-well what is meant by that, huh? We've done the old "humanitarian aid" thing for a long time ourselves, haven't we?

Gee, what on earth WILL we do when we find out we aren't the only power to be reckoned with in the world?

And the damned Russkies have the temerity to use our own terms! What do they MEAN by humanitarian aid?

Maybe we should ask ourselves what WE have always meant by that...

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 13:58 | 5077302 thamnosma
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If they are working with the Red Cross it will be a legit aid mission.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:01 | 5077324 ptoemmes
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Chess vs Checkers

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 15:06 | 5077915 general ambivalent
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Chess vs. cup-and-ball.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:02 | 5077329 jacship
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UKRAINE IS NOT A NATo         member

 

UN should move

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:04 | 5077351 Kirk2NCC1701
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Just this morning (and in recent days) I blogged that they should send in Russian Blue Helmets.

Convoy? Close enough.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:04 | 5077354 the not so migh...
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Putin is going to get such a strongly worded letter from Obama, wheww i am glad i am not Putin

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:18 | 5077471 SystemOfaDrown
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... and a blistering teleprompt lecture.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:33 | 5077612 Pure Evil
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Luckily Vlad's not gay, or Oblowme would try to suck all the chrome off his bumber.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:09 | 5077383 optimator
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Oh, and by the way, the "Markets" are not going to like this.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:10 | 5077396 novictim
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Thus begins the Princess Putin slow dance to Armageddon .

In for a penny, in for a total annihilation of all human life on the planet. 

Just waiting now for the major air-war as Ukrainian fighter jets attempt to destroy these "Aid" convoys and then get shot down by Russian advanced fighters leading to NATO air cover leading to... BOOM!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:11 | 5077399 messystateofaffairs
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After  Putin nails down the east a little roast piglet for dinner would be nice. Plenty of grist for an impartial war crime trail available on the piglet.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:14 | 5077425 SystemOfaDrown
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Putin sending in Aid?

SOMEBODY STOP THE MADMAN!!

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:28 | 5077560 SystemOfaDrown
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Will one person didn't get the sarcasm.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:32 | 5077592 JenkinsLane
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There's so many schmucks showing up on ZH lately it's

become essential to add sarc tags to differentiate

yourself from them.

Mon, 08/11/2014 - 14:18 | 5077443 Two dogs
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Wouldn't be surprised to find that a lot of Ukrainian border officials phone in sick tomorrow.

. . . "And is this tank yours, sir?  Can I see the paperwork?"

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