This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Ukraine Says 45,000 Russian Troops On Border With Tanks, Missiles, Warplanes And Attack Helicopters
Another day, another round of the usual warmongering soundbites, because someone clearly is on a mission to escalate the cross border hostilities into all out war. From Reuters:
- UKRAINE MILITARY SPOKESMAN LYSENKO SAYS RUSSIA HAS 45,000 TROOPS ON ITS BORDER WITH UKRAINE WITH TANKS, MISSILE SYSTEMS, WARPLANES AND ATTACK HELICOPTERS
From Reuters:
Russia has massed 45,000 troops on its border with Ukraine backed by an array of heavy equipment including tanks, missile systems, warplanes and attack helicopters, Ukrainian military spokesman Andriy Lysenko said on Monday.
"As of 11 o'clock today, about 45,000 troops of the armed forces and internal forces of the Russian Federation are concentrated in border areas," Lysenko told a briefing.
He said they were supported by 160 tanks, 1,360 armoured vehicles, 390 artillery systems, up to 150 Grad missile launchers, 192 fighter aircraft and 137 attack helicopters.
Apparently Lyesnko does not know how to read an upside profit surprise warning from Raytheon, Lockheed and Boeing.
Meanwhile:
- RUSSIA'S PUTIN TELLS EU'S BARROSO BY TELEPHONE THAT RUSSIA IS COORDINATING WITH INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS ON SENDING HUMANITARIAN AID TO UKRAINE - KREMLIN
It gets better, from Bloomberg:
- BARROSO WARNS PUTIN AGAINST UNILATERAL MILITARY ACTIONS
Or else the prices of Russian fruits and vegetables will go up as European gas prices explode?
And concluding the comedy, from Interfax:
- LAVROV SAYS ALL DETAILS OF HUMANITARIAN MISSION AGREED WITH UKRAINE GOVT, EXPRESSES HOPE MISSION WILL TAKE PLACE SOON
RUSSIA HOPES THAT HUMANITARIAN ACTION FOR DONBAS WILL NOT BE OBSTRUCTED BY PARTNERS - LAVROV - LAVROV: IF MEDIA REPORTS, SAYING THAT BRITISH, FRENCH, GERMANY LEADERS AGREED NO NEED FOR HUMANITARIAN AID EXISTS IN UKRAINE, ARE TRUE, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS CYNICISM MANIFESTATION
- INTRODUCTION OF FOOD IMPORT RESTRICTIONS CONDITIONED, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WITH SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIAN AGRICULTURAL BANK, WHICH COMPLICATES FINANCING AGRICULTURE PRODUCERS - LAVROV
- IT IS HARD TO CALL GOOD PARTNERS THE COUNTRIES UNITING AGAINST RUSSIA - LAVROV
- LAVROV: ONE MAY GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THE COUNTERTERRORISM OPERATION IN UKRAINE AIMS TO WIPE OFF SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH AND TO MAKE ALL RUSSIANS GO
Then again, judging by today's latest plunge in the VIX, it is quite clear that the most recent warning by the TBAC against low vol and complacent markets, almost had an impact.
»
- 15885 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
The Un-De-Escalation has just Re-Un-De-escalated?
BULLISH
General Steven Segal in command
With Colonel Mickey Rourke
http://www.lbc.co.uk/mickey-rourke-lines-up-for-putin-shirt-in-moscow-95256
And soon it will be
All your Kiev belong to us..
Again!
HEY, I Got An Idea, Lets INVADE Ukraine ...
So how's the surfing there?
Great idea!
I hear they have a great chicken dish in Kiev!
Putin 100%
Obama 0%
...This is how Nuclear War begins.
...Obama has lost every single political skirmish/confrontation to this point.
...As a Machavelian/Know It All, and A few more losses, O may be left w/ "Pressing the button" as a last resort.
Yikes
LOL, as if they trust Obama with the Nuclear Football.
Its just a suitcase, with a button inside, its not 'live'. Not the one they let Barry play w/, any way.
Seems like the US is at war with the VIX MOAR than with the Russians.
Yuck! Chicken Cordon Bleu is much tastier!
Mickey don't surf.
Mickey Rourke don't surf
Mikhail Gorbachev don't surf
Mickey Mouse don't surf
We don't need no stinking surf!
They gotta lotta nice girls there, Hah, I'm with ya!
They have a lot of nice girls why bomb themUkraine Got Talent - The world's best pole dancer - Anastasia Sokolova
Wow! very impressive
With finalization or not ?
the only way to win is to stay out of the fight and torpedo the usd with silver bullet
I agree, but the U.S. is on the other side of the cone. It wants the war badly as far as I can see.
nimble little nimph.........LUCKY pole.
Funny....she never did that when we dated....
The rumor is there are 146 million russians on the other side of the border
https://mobile.twitter.com/DJWITZ/status/498674926438473729/photo/1
Twitter shows tanks are rolling in!!!
...oh wait. That's St Louis.
Stolen were cellphones, liquor, and rims.
SHIT YOU NOT.
pods
I've heard conflicting reports. Was it part of a protest? Or a riot?
Reports indicate cries of "Moar free shit!" was heard emanating from the crowd.
It started as a protest.
Once the sun went down, it turned into a looting spree.
I hear John McCain (Son of Cain) and President Obama asking for International Action to Stabilize Iraq & Syria... So of course they want to stabilize Ukraine too.
But US & EU have Weak Banks & Weak Economies and NO War Chests.
USA can't manage Federal Budgets, Federal Contracts, Expansion of Federal Spending & Inflation of Federal Contracts. $17.6 Trillion in Federal Debt Indicates we can't go to Ukraine or Iraq/Syria to fight a World War.
Reality Bites. Epic Fail.
Want to fix something, Keep Politicians & Lobbyist away from it. $17.6 Trillion seems proof of US Corruption.
We need 45,000 troops on our border with Mexico!
.
THANK YOU!!!
DING DING DING!!
WE HAVE A WINNER FOR POST OF THE DAY!
BTW: 50% RETRACE LEVEL NOW BEING REACHED.
Place your bets..
Being bankrupt never stopped anyone from going to war in the past.
"Deficits don't matter."
"It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
"What difference does it make?"
Britain had no Forex by June 1940
Actually, in the pre-fiat, fractional reserve banking days, if a nation was bankrupt, they DID NOT go to war!
Fascinating concept, right?
Thats because troops fighting a war on foreign soil needed to be paid in HARD CURRENCY.
Hillery is that you?
"What difference does it make?"
No one can actually Imagine how big $17.6 Trillion is. Epic Fail. One Trillion is too big for anyone to imagine.
So the US bombs people cleansing an area=Good
Russia merely hints that it has firepower next to an area where people are cleansing an area=Bad.
Got it.
pods
Last week, I read NATO warning that Putin may invade using the ruse of Humanitarian Concern and we must not be fooled by his obvious lie.
Two days later the US bombs Iraq "to provide humanitarian relief". You can't make this shit up.
No need to make it up when they're providing it for free. We get our daily quota of laughing and crying all in a single serving.
a bit superficial. in Iraq, there is some humanitarian relief going on for dislocated populations fleeing the Islamic State forces. then they do like to pick on "undesirables". Next to it, the bombings
meanwhile, what Putin is doing was formerly known as "rattling the saber". not a friendly gesture, though one that might help or not help, depending from what Russia does next
and that's the point: did Putin steer himself into a position where he has to keep up appearances? then the claim of "ethnic cleansing" is more difficult to make, in Eastern Ukraine (at least compared with Ex-Yugoslavia). how the heck is that supposed to happen, there? by language? by religion?
the whole thing is soon ripe for a conference on the resolution of this mess, imho. btw note where the citizens of the embattled cities are fleeing to
.
Yes, well, the Russians have been calling for that since April.
They're fleeing east to Russia. The one who flee west are never heard from again.
and Israel invaded Gaza with "humanitarian relief in the form of birth control"
"You can't make this shit up."
Sure you can. Someone sure is doing a damn fine job of it.
a video on the psychology of propaganda. Prof. Kroth reviews five major techniques for how mass media manipulates and twists the view people have of their world.
Thats an 1hr long. Let me give Coles Notes to people.
When you hear a politician say something, imagine he said the opposite, then weigh the likelihood of the truth of the two statements. You will instantly parse the lies.
When you watch a commercial, they are trying to instill an emotion in you (envy, greed, lust...) and this product can provide said emotion. Or convince you a product conveys social status (see iPad, iPhone, iEtc)
To summarise:- If you see a politicians lips moving he is lying :)
Yes?
All bullshit sounding to me. Hey Obama why dont you try stivking your head up your ass ans see if that fits if you cant Putan will do it for you. The world events are all tied to the markets movements I dare say NOT. The markets dont give a shit its way to many changes in the stories mabout Ukrain for anybody to take this shit serious. Now on to us funding ISIS so we can invade Syria
Your fingers must be huge.
Yes this iPhone typing sucks
If they're coming, they're coming with more than 45,000 troops
US Military is held back by it's own Group Think.
We took Afghanistan quickly with low troop levels. Then promptly forgot the advantages of this and choose to go into wars knowing we might fight guerrillas at any point.
We build up troops & Equipment with Expensive Logistics Tails and maintenance hubs for chains of camps or bases. Effectively we blow the whole DOD budget on wars heavily laden with huge corporate expenses.
Putin is not going to have a Capitalist War like the USA. He is going to strategize for longevity & sustainability.
US Corporate Logistics for Future Wars Needs to be seriously cut back in view of $17.6 Trillion of Public debt.
In this US - RUSSIAN war by proxy, I see the US and its "Coalition of the Plyable" using PR as the weapon of choice, to buy time.
Time to keep Russian military sidelined, while slowly destroying the industrial part of the country: Russian East Ukraine. Current situation is not sustainable. Something's gotta give.
I've been taking the position that US & EU Banks & Economies are weak, there is no War Chest, and that we can't afford a major war. So there are possibilities:
A) Proxy Wars
B) Covert Actions, but not sure these resolve a thing
C) Small Scale Wars, more like max 50K on ground with one navy ship & Air Forces of maybe 50 Air Ships, Satellite Intel, NSA Spying, Human Intelligence
D) Robot Wars, Satellite Wars, Drone Wars
E) Thermonuclear War
Rumor has it that more underground bunkers have to be outfitted before we can move to Nuclear War, say 2-10 years more.
That's just the Russian Red Cross.
One of these days, the Boy Who Cried Wolf
Is going to be right. Go Putin.
Exactly the problem. Everyone is now getting complacent with the obvious BS spewed
out by the west, and are not listening to what Russia is saying.
Their red line is real, and fixed . They don't want Ukraine, why would they ?
They will disable the Kiev junta without boots on the ground, as a last resort.
Russians aren't known for turning the other cheek, amazing restraint really,
the US would already have bombed Ukraine back to the stone age ,if the
roles were reversd.
If Texas had been given part of Oklahoma, and then became an independent Spanish speaking country, and then was destabilized by Russia in an effort to extend the Russian/South American military alliance to deep within our historic territory...
...Obama would just open the borders and let everyone in because we're all just one big, happy family.
And he would give them all hand jobs.
Obama in his best droning voice "Why don't you folks come on down to the country club, where Skip, Chip and I will welcome you to America."
need wainting the end of pomo algos work (nobody told them no pomo today )
Still exctied for when the Russians do send in "peace keepers" and then return fire when fired upon.
Lets not forget that there are NATO troops stationed in Kharkov handing out "non-lethal" equipment.
That puts NATO troops a paltry 24 miles from the Russian border. What could possible go wrong?
If they are Euro troops, they will surrender, if what happened in Kosovo is any guide.
US and Ukrainian troops in Yugoslavia got left the hell alone, simply because their usual response to being threatened was to light up the idiots shooting at them.
"i'll see your ISIS bombing and i'll raise you 45,000 ground troops..."
I'll see that and raise 110,000 illegal immigrant Honduran children
Herro, I riase you 3 smarr rocks in the South Japan Sea, and over $1 Trirrion in USD Treasuries.
TWIST - Which asian country am I talking about?
'll see that and raise you ONE ebola case on the MTA Metro North
I don't know whether to laugh, cry or go hide in the woods.
Fold, call, or raise.
You are holdin up da game.
..as seen on youtube and facebook.
NATO have until the end of summer to get this war going, once the gas starts getting syphoned by Ukraine and EU get caught in the middle again this shit will all end, Europe will say enough is enough and be forced to pivot East.
Bingo! Once the EU starts freezing its ass off due to lack of Russian NG......... different ballgame.
You won't have the EU freezing. You'll have a shortage which is then, compensated by a price increase. You'll see gas prices skyrocket in the EU (making those who are into NatGas in the EU very, very, very, very, very, very wealthy) for the middle class and the "wealthy" while the poors freeze.
the middle class will sufffer the most the poor will just be subsidized by the middle class.
This Winter in Europe will be BRUTAL, weather wise and events will force vast changes this winter..
Hardly think so.....you'd be surprised how wood burners have replaced gas and coal fires are back in use. Once Thatcher switched electricity generation to gas it was the end of it as a heating source
Come winter, NATO bloc will be lighting their farts of fire to stay warm.
Putin has to invade Ukraine first to see whats in it
So we are going to punish the country which is not doing anything but staging troops on their own soil?
If I were Russia, I would merely reply:
Thanks for the concern, but piss off.
pods
Armageddon coming to a country near you.
Go get em boys. Exact a price for treachery. All is fair in love and war. Willy wonkberg would agree.
pathetic
Bullish!! SPX back to 1943! good work Tyler!
Keep em scared bitchez! Just don't startle the robots, I haven't sold my WWIII dead cat bounce yet.
the ultimate hubris is when one's dumbass projects upon an opponent the same dumbass. putin is not stupid. he has exihibited great intelligence, savvy and cunning to thwart the western(usa) powers. chess to checkers is the best analogy once again. putin is not as stupid as the usa. he will not invade ukraine because he knows that is precisely what the usa wants and needs to make their next move. the king is trapped by a pawn. putin must find all this amusing except that people(russians especially) are being killed for empire.
OK, but he can't lose the short-term struggle in hopes of winning in the long-term. If he fails to take steps to smash the Ukie army in the east now, Donestsk and Lugansk could go down. If that happens, there will be no long-term for VVP. No amount of marvellous chess moves and elegant strategems will matter. The moment the pro-Russian resistance collapses, NATO will swarm over Ukraine and it will be lost -- and the next step will be Orange Revolution in Red Square.
ukraine is a sacrificed pawn. russia already took the king's bishop(crimea). checkmate comes with the persian trap. the usa will be shouting king me! king me, dammit! putin will politely remind the west the game is chess.
Putin giving speech thursday to parliment
..
Russia’s Aerospace Defense Forces Deploy S-400 to Ashuluk Training Range
...
Russia Forces US Submarine Out of Boundary Waters
1984...
Shhh you might spoil the market exuberance!
This is such an epic bounce, might have to watch that lisping blow job queen Maria B, for a good laugh ... what time does she come on Faux Biz channel?
Fuck off, Ukraine. Where's the god damn air traffic recordings?
lol, like the contrast in the avatar and your words and the out of nowhere reminder. Anybody talk to the sheeple and see how many of them find the propaganda war obvious?
Lysenko lies. Anything he says needs verification.
Lysenko is the one who had his BUK Blame lie ready even before anyone knew MH-17 was no longer airborne.
Lysenko lies. Anything he says needs verification.
A lot of talk on Twatter and FB that the Russians have entered Ukraine under the guise
of Humaniterian aid. Obviously unconfirmed.
If only people wanted a solutions, instead of graft.
Stealing once was harmful being a limited commodity, now with printing there is no reason to stop the theft, you just print more.
This is why the world is as it is, no one in power is suffering loss.
They are gaining faster then ever, more channels of theft.
Broken is profit for someone.
Putin should declare a no fly zone over novorussia and drop medical supplies and food and repeatedly urge the red cross and HRW and others to record what Kiev is doing.
By the way, what the fuck is the American national security interest in Ukraine, exactly? People have stopped asking what gives the US the right and privilege to interfere anywhere in the world.
It's not like the CIA is working for the American people or anything. They've been an above the law, quite profitable criminal enterprise for decades, it seems. The iron fist, the dagger, and the slow poison of the powers behind the throne of the US Presidency... a confederacy of murderers and thieves.
"By the way, what the fuck is the American national security interest in Ukraine, exactly?"
I think Hunter Biden can answer that. Someone, several weeks ago in a comment on ZH suggested that in more enlightened times we would of hanged a few of these kleptocrats and I agree.
People are talking about german divisions rolling into Ukr territory when the modernised Bundeswehr is comprised of two mechanised divisions with armor component.On paper.
Same goes for the Poles, they could field(with difficulties) two mechanised divisions, incl only one battalion of Leopards 2a4.The rest of tank park is T-72/T-80rebuilt(Twardy).
Also, the whole Bundeswehr has (on paper) three artillery battalions.Its actually much less in fire volume than Poles have, as they still have three soviet-style arty regiments, plus lots of organic battalions.
Father Guderian would roll in its grave.
Crying Bear, Bear is getting tiresome. Crying to the IMF and EU for money like a destitute welfare recipient is tiresome. Crying for NATO support is worrisome. This begs the question, why? I think Hunter Biden can answer that. This all begs the question if Quebec, Canada can ask and receive as many referendums on self determination and secession as they want, why not the ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a referendum on secession from the Ukraine? Again, I think Hunter Biden can answer to that. Secession by Scotland is possible, nobody in England is calling the Scots terrorists are they? Why would the Ukrainian government label their own ethnic Russian citizens terrorists? Lastly, I think Hunter Biden can answer that.
That would be this Hunter Biden, now gearing up to bri..influence Congress
An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, while seeking to influence CongressWhen Vice President Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.But the company, Burisma Holdings, did not disclose at the time the scope of their plans for influencing the U.S. government. Recently released documents show that Biden’s hiring coincided with the launch of a new effort to lobby members of Congress about the role of the company in Ukraine and the country’s quest for energy independence.
I miss the quote where Lyesnko said "Shit, we are fucked".
Lysenko?!...Is this the same renowned pedophile who likes to interrogate people in the nude?
I believe it is the same pedophile yes.
His rap name is "Lysol".
CNBC gave headline attention to a Russian tweet and proclaimed 'all is well'.
SURELY they will give equal time to what is now happening and say 'the end is nigh'.
Won't hold my breath waiting...
Ukraine must have a fantastic intelligence source to have counted all that stuff.
I thought it was only half that a couple of weeks ago.
Dear Ukraine,
As long as the Russians stay on their side of the border, who gives a shit?
Sincerely,
Me
May not happen.
Russian militias have been sheltering from Uke arty by hanging out near the Russian border.
Apparently the Uke arty can't shoot straight, and has had a problem with shells landing on the wrong side of the border.
Sounds like a lot of people and equipment to be sitting around doing nothing. Worse than the Department of Transportation..
BLOOMBERG = BULLSHIT = PROPAGANDA
So that's like a football stadiums worth of troops for a 100+ mile wide border, hardly an invasion force. Six times that was needed for Iraq
Close the borders right now!!!
Signed: an American
Oooops, wrong thread.
Open the borders right now!!!
Signed: an American
Make up your mind !
Open and close the borders yesterday and tomorrow!!!
Signed: AnAnonymous
Canada and Mexico can say the same thing about the USA.
Why doesn't Ukraine just attack Russia and get it over with?
"He said they were supported by 160 tanks, 1,360 armoured vehicles, 390 artillery systems, up to 150 Grad missile launchers, 192 fighter aircraft and 137 attack helicopters."
I think he was drunk, he missed half of it.
UKRAINE MILITARY SPOKESMAN LYSENKO SAYS RUSSIA HAS 63,000 GORGONS AND 18,000 WINGED EELS ON UKRAINIAN BORDER, ALL WEARING PUTIN T-SHIRTS
Time to "release the Kraken" yet?
YATS-----------EN--------------YUK
COUP
COMING
UKRAINE MILITARY SPOKESMAN LYSENKO SAYS PUTIN IS EATING CHILDREN NOT IN BED AT 8:00 PM.
In 2008 the RAND Corporation presented a report to the Pentagon advocating war against a major power as a way to stimulate the U.S. economy.
hmmm what does this mean for futures bull!
Bombing of the chemical plant Gorlovka - Ukraine, Russia and Belarus in danger
Today we sum Aug. 10, 2014.
My name is Pavel Brykov I'm the press officer of the consortium "Stirol" (Gorlovka, Donetsk region.'s Largest chemical Ukrainian consortium).
I would like to make a statement of extreme emergency. Throughout the past three weeks the city of Gorlovka general and the territory of the largest chemical factory "Stirol" in particular, suffer bombings, strikes and artillery fire with the Ukrainian military use multiple rocket launchers "Grad" and even "URAGAN." Including 5 August last, in a targeted manner, in addition to strikes GRAD, 5 strikes URAGAN multiple rocket launchers were carried out on the plant. it is the most powerful weapon of mass destruction into service in the Ukrainian army.
The bombing of the city and the chemical plant are ongoing.
I officially declare:
Given the irresponsible actions of the Ukrainian army, the people of Ukraine, Russia and Belarus suffer daily mortal of an ecological disaster, which it is impossible to predict the consequences and risk assess the extent of damage.
An accident "Stirol" will result in the release of a hazardous chemical that is mono-nitre-chlorbenzène extremely harmful. The lethal radius, given the wind direction, river basins and marine areas is 300 km minimum. I do not understand why this fact is ignored by all the Ukrainian media. "
----------------------
start to emerge as true information, any confirm ?
I wonder what Putin is playing at here...so far the only confirmation of any aid convoy from Russia to the Ukraine has come only from Moscow. I have found nothing to suggest that Kiev is going to allow, or is even considering the idea, in fact they just turned one aid convoy aside a few days ago. Kiev also refused a cease fire offer from the PRD to allow aid to come into the area, they are gearing up for a major assault and have advised residents to evacuate the city.
there is nothing to indicate Kiev is going to cooperate with any aid mission from Russia so I wonder why Lavrov is announcing it as a done deal? it just seems strange to me...
my guess is it's one of those "it's either this or war" type of deals, if Kiev does not allow the convoy through the next thing Moscow sends over the border will be of a lethal and decidedly non humanitarian nature.
you've got to wonder if the algos just made this shit up just to keep the markets from tanking on bad geopolitical news on a monday.
"nothing to indicate Kiev is going to cooperate with any aid mission from Russia so I wonder why Lavrov is announcing it as a done deal?"
The deal will be between Nuland/NATO and Russia. Kiev has nothing to do with it.
Here we go
MOSCOW, August 11 (RIA Novosti) – Russia and the International Committee of the Red Cross are sending a convoy with humanitarian cargo to eastern Ukraine, the Kremlin press service said Monday.
Russian President Vladimir Putin told European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso in a phone conversation that “the Russian side, in cooperation with representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross, is sending a humanitarian convoy to Ukraine.”
At the UN Security Council last Tuesday, Russia proposed to deploy an international humanitarian mission with Russian humanitarian aid under the auspices of the International Committee of the Red Cross in Ukraine’s troubled eastern regions.
A number of Western countries, such as the United States, Britain and Germany argued that Russian humanitarian aid should only be delivered to Ukraine after Moscow secured Kiev’s consent, otherwise it would be «unjustified and illegal."
Earlier on Monday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov urged the West not to hamper the delivery of the humanitarian aid and sharply criticized recent statements by officials in London, Washington and Berlin that the population in eastern Ukraine does not require humanitarian assistance, despite the worsening situation in the regions caught in armed clashes between Kiev-led forces and independence supporters.
So the nice people from the Red Cross who everybody in the world loves is going into eastern Ukraine to help all the civilians that Keiv has bombed. The Russians will just be going along to escort them in case any nasty people should attack the Red Cross while they are helping. Who can argue with that?
The entire effort that's attempting to crush the resistance, liquidate the separatists, and secure IMF loans.
After reading the interview with a Ukrainian soldier, lots of images start to fall into place. It's like the scene from First Blood, with the National Guard weekenders trying to flush out Rambo. The two stories are quite gripping and should be considered essential reading.
Unless NATO tells Poroshenko to stop shelling Donestsk, Putin should turn off the gas to the EU and make them use up their stored up reserves now and have even less for the winter.
What a provocation, Russian military forces sitting in Russia, how dare they!
I guess it would be better to keep them as far away from Ukraine as possible... maybe as far as Cuba.
UKRAINE MILITARY SPOKESMAN LYSENKO SAYS PUTIN IS DENGEROUSLY CLOSE TO THE GATES OF KREMLIN.
What a nonsense. If Russia has the intention to act it would have sent some KGB specialists with plutonium in their pockets to Yatsenjuk, Poroshenko and some of their masterminds.
Plutonium? Yeah, 'cause Polonium is so last century!
He said they were supported by 160 tanks, 1,360 armoured vehicles, 390 artillery systems, up to 150 Grad missile launchers, 192 fighter aircraft and 137 attack helicopters... three french hens two turtle doves and a partridge in a pear tree
THIS MEANS WAR!!!!
After Donetsk
The eventual destruction of Donetsk by Kiev only begs the the larger question: when Donetsk is levelled and its population are either dead or emigres, does the Chocolate Lickspittle order the retaking of Crimea?
This is what the heavy fighting now is about.
Russia, which had no official relation with Eastern Ukraine but officially has annexed Crimea and will answer Kiev missile for missile if Crimea is attacked.
Whether or not Putin decides to take part of the Russian hail of missiles away from the Ukrainian Army near the shore of the Black Sea and put it down in central Ukraine remains to be seen.
As does NATO's response to the fighting between the two nations.
Hell yeah! You're having a civil war on my border? Then, I'm lining up my troops to make sure it doesn't spill over into *my* space!