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If You Like Your "Boots On The Ground", Here's More - Obama Plans To Send 75 More 'Advisers' To Iraq
Despite reassurances that there will be "no US combat troops in Iraq again" on Friday, it appears - thanks to nuance of spin - that President Obama has changed his mind...
- *OBAMA SAID TO CONSIDER SENDING ABOUT 75 MILITARY ADVISERS TO IRAQ: CNN
The question we have is - when does a "military adviser" stop being an 'assassination consultant' and start being a troops' boot on the ground?
The Obama administration is considering whether to send more military advisers to Iraq amid efforts to get thousands of Yazidi Iraqis off Mount Sinjar, a U.S. official said Tuesday. The administration also is looking to boost the capabilities of Kurdish forces battling ISIS fighters in northern Iraq, the official said.
Consideration is being given to sending as many as 75 more American military personnel, a second U.S. military official told CNN.
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So special ops are now military advisors. Got it.
Spies like us.
These boots are made for talking?
I can't wait until Electronic Arts comes out with COD: Advisers and Observers
I think their next project is COD: IDF fetus sniping
http://zionismsucks.com/2014/08/12/idf-snipers-target-pregnant-mothers/
Knowing Baraq, he'll send in 50,000 advisors, and if you criticize him, you are a racist.
Seriously.
"What does it matter?TM".
This kabuki is borrrrrring.
If I'm racist for not liking Obama, then I must be a total anti-Semite for saying Israel is the most murderous regime in the world
'IDF fetus sniping"
That has got to be the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Tell me again why the Israeli's are the "good guys"?
Because apparently you're an antisemite if you don't believe so
Because Sean Hannity says so.
Not just Hannity and friends...but GOD says so!
Says so right there in the bible! Just listen to multimillionaire Zionist Pastor Hagee or Osteen.
Turn your back on Israel and you will burn in fiery lakes of diarrhea for eternity. Now get your checkbooks out and watch more MSM.
the funny part is, this ISIS thing could have been avoided if:
1) the West didn't activley participate in creating, arming an training them. But we needed them to topple Assad.
2) the West would have bombed them on the way in as they crossed the desert. But no, with Maliki in, they didn't step in until the Kurdish area was possibly in trouble.
At this point I would support any efforts to actually eradicate ISIS ( the US armed forces fighting the CIA ) to preserve the integrity of Iraq. We know that this won't happen though.
And if Pam hadn't eaten all the coke forcing Archer to come up with the idea of ISIS selling the remaining coke back to Colombian drug lords who turned out to be Christian Slater and the CIA!
I'm still on the side of carpet nuking the whole region.
If you nuked riyadh, doha, dc, ottawa, tel aviv, london, paris, istanbul you'd likely be more effective.
Bring back arc light...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/arc_light.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88jrZjsNHPc
(the US armed forces fighting the CIA) is exactly what Jim Willie has been saying for months now. When it gets to the point where its Langley against The Pentagon things are very teetery. I'm surprised at how resilient this rotten edifice is, but sooner or later she's going over.
Specifically yeah, but I've been disappointed by some of Free Willie's analysis otherwise lately ( geopolitical ). In a manner, the intelligence community writ large is at war with all of us.
That's because even with how much you hate the current system, even with you knowing that it corrupt to its very core, you will not be happy when it goes down. The system is so interdependent that it cannot collapse without significant pain to everyone. You may be willing to suffer through the pain. I am. It is inevitable, and I'd rather just get it over with. But think about your average Kardashian-Ass watcher, who doesn't know how corrupt it is, who doesn't hate the system, who cannot wrap their mind around the inevitably of what we are facing. If you won't be happy, how are they going to feel about a severe change in lifestyle? They're going to go along with the system. They are going to unwittingly support it. They are going to carry it on until it cannot be supported any longer. Everything is falling into shit and the world is burning around us, yet there the system stands. That is resilience. Until it's not.
The ass-watching Walmartians will line up for handouts at their nearest 'emergency management center'
I figure the 75 will actually be advisors. The 300 that tag along off the books will be special ops.
Actually the SF guys are considered advisors by the military, as that is their primary role. They go to foreign countries and advise them on how to deal with dissidents. Anything else they do is merely in support of their primary role, the training and advisement of foreign "friendly" forces.
True. I still don't believe the neocons would telegraph exactly what they are doing- sending 75 SF advisors.
That's the cover for con-gress, but it's funny, and a little sweet and nastolgic, that they still think such pageantry is necessary.
It's too confusing... advisers are one subset of SF, but not all military advisers are Special Forces or even part of the military. Then there's the intelligence community, which has its own military advisors, who may or may not be wearing the same footwear as the military guys. Finally, there are the private sector military advisors, and while most of the grunts are Blackwater (or equivalent), among the POG's there are often some whiteshoes, and those are the guys you really need to watch out for...
Barry left out the words "at least" when he said he was sending 75 advisers.
Send the 75 most senior Senate and Congressional seat holders - they can advise them for sure....
Who needs troops?
Just send 'contractors'.
Funny accounting doesn't just work in finance.
To be fair, special forces have always been referred to as advisors, this isn't new. We had advisors getting killed in Vietnam in 1945.
Just as Russians and Chinese had advisors being killed in Vietnam.
Advisor= Extermination Technician.
Hell, a FAC Pilot is an "advisor," in the sense of semantics.
Sooner or later, Obama must yield to Military and Neocons.
USA world influence is collapsing. That basically is deriliction of duty.
There is no way bank lobby could hang around for much longer demanding weak dollar as opposed to Neocons and Military demanding strong dollar.
Either vacate the white house, or do your job, period.
Remind me again how the bank lobby and the MIC agendas differ? This is a running theme with your posts, I just want to understand your perspective.
Bank Lobby = weak dollar due to derivatives and insolvency
Military, MIC, Neocons = Strong dollar, so military is paid (with real goods and services) to maintain world trade flow and inflow of energy and commodities to USA and West
Doublethink run amuk.
Two different lobbies with two opposing objectives.
Historically speaking, the lobby backed by Military wins.
It is beyond any logic, to think that lobbies get along pretty well.
History shows that elite kills elite to control real assets and money supply
Of course elites historically become megalomaniacs and devour one another. But at the tippy-top of the pyramid, in the halls of the foundations and think-tanks that set global policy I believe the agenda is pretty clear, Order Out of Chaos.
One thing is historically clear and only one thing:
Elite kills elite to expropriate assets.
This will never change.
We have chinese and russian elite now trying to expropriate assets from western elite.
Nothing new under the sun.
What has been, will always be.
I agree there are competing interests.
I disagree that any of these interests can right the ship.
The neocon navigator extraordinaire Zbigniew won't see his utopian dream fulfilled.
Russia said no in Crimea.
No. No. A thousand times NO.
"Either vacate the white house, or do your job, period."
He is doing just that, the job he was selected to do. Just as those before him.
Take it down to the micro,,,did War Inc. donate tens of thousands to Di Fi to promote peace? McCain? Others?
War is a racket. Racketeers spare no expense in maintaining their stock in trade.
Who said Vietnam v2 ?
just like Vietnam
Bye bye Jenny....
Vietnam, without trees.
Never a good time to be in a fraud MIC. But now it's really not a good time to be in a meat grinder.
I like how the MSM glossed over Maliki being given the boot.
All those elections so he could be summarily dismissed by Joe Biden?
What a clusterfuck; we never should have gone in there - what a waste of lives.
"we never should have gone in there"
But we did, and we royally screwed things up. So what now? Do we sit and watch innocents get butchered, knowing we helped to cause it? It's the question I wrestle with.
We've done it before....
Doublespeak from both sides of the mouth. Up is down and down is up, 2 plus 2 = 5 or whatever big brother says it equals.
Of couse he is....you need someone to point the lasers on the targets.....or to lead the Iraqi troops....the question is who will be the first casuality...
Mercs can't operate a flashlight?
It's all about the footwear. If the soldiers aren't wearing boots, ain't no boots on the ground
AH, the Surge.
Yes!!
I can't wait for the Surge! Are you ready?
Oh.. I thought you said the PURGE.
Obamanocchio
I say send them all. If they're stupid enough to join the military, and their parents have no qualms about sacrificing their own children for a widescreen TV and a cheap tank of gas without getting blood on their own hands, sure, why not?
Hey, look, a soaring eagle, and the star spangled banner being played on a Fender, I'm getting emotional here guys...
Military is just another arm of .gov The question then is...Are they better than any other government parasite?
The 18 and 19 year olds are tools for the financial elite. Profits from misfortune.
Had a long drive recently thru the deep south en route to a neighboring country, saw lots of billboards recruiting for the marines, especially in depressed areas
"America! Fuck Yeah!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk
FUCK YEAH!!!
Maybe a few enrollment centers will pop up out of the blue somewhere in Missouri. Heard flatscreens are flying off the shelfs around those parts.
and tire rims, and shoes (except work boots)...
Hey, come on, watching the NFL and even the PGA will teach you that we owe these heroes a debt of gratitude for risking their lives to protect our freedoms.
Now get down to the courthouse to pay your property taxes but first empty your pockets and take off your belt then walk through this metal detector.
And why do you have all this cash on you, boy?
medium g,
why not?
US troops should not be sent to kill foreigners,
who are mostly peasants and farmers, men, women, or children,
living in some of the most impoverished countries of the world,
killed basically for resisting US invasion, or for being "collateral" civilians.
They are typically victims of US-supported financial tycoons, despots, sheikdoms, drug lords, and apartheid colonizers.
They pose no threat to real US interests.
Their only "threat" exists in the fearful imaginings of highly improbable and hypothetical future scenarios. Those scenarios are only given any chance of realization from the blowback effects of military attempts to preclude them.
And that is to say nothing of the very real and present adverse domestic effects of policies subservient to the demeaning goals of military and financial domination.
How soon before we see those helicopters on the roof of the embassy?
Makes for good TV
Babies being taken out of incubators....somebody really needs to get that on TV.
Mission Creep 2.0
Well it is the creep in chief's mission after all, at least between golf rounds and vacations with the occasional fundraiser for texture.
HORSESHIT!
That about sums it up.
Kinda applies to many things lately.
So who are we advising? ISIS, the Kurds, or Iraqi government? Or do they each get 25 guys?
I think they're mostly advising laser guided bombs on where to land.
ISIS got stingers, .50 cals, machetes and the blessing of CIA/Mossad/Saudi/Qatari/Jordanian/Turkish Intelligence.
The Kurds will get some Green Berets or SF guys.
The Iraqi government will get next to nothing until Maliki steps down or more likely is assassinated.
Defense contractors make billions off of war. So their always bullish on wars. Wars generate profits. Have to push for that next big war.
ISIS will blow the Russian-made dam and flood Bagdad.
Barry will be on a golf course, naturally, on vacation.
More shovel-ready jobs for Halliburton.
actually the dam was built by German contractors.
That's a 75 person death sentence right there.
He sent at least 800 combat-ready "advisers" last month.
A Marine I know stationed at Lejeune told me that his Gunnery Sgt informed his platoon that they would be in Iraq no later than February. Would be headed for desert warfare training at 29 Palms and then stationed on an Amphib headed for Qatar before Iraq.
Remember when Obama promised that he would not take vacations if elected President?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68WS5B19LC4
Just a flesh-fib, come back and fight like a girl! (I think everyone's aware he's pathological.)
You're not allowed to talk about World War Three until we're finished mourning celebrity deaths. And buying lots more Tesla, Chipotle, Netflix, Priceline, etc.
Good timing this Iraq situation. No more looky at MH17. Dodged a missile there didn't the.
Yes it always starts like this, but maybe this time we can keep a lid on it. If we're going to up-arm the Kurds they need supervision. I doubt we can arm and train the Kurds in sufficient time. The only way this is going to work is with 20,000 US "boots on the ground" (plus another 20,000 loafers on the ground of the associated contractors), running air bases inside Kurdistan. Will Obama do it? Tough question. Will Valerie Jarrett let him?
Meanwhile, don't underestimate the courage of those who volunteer for such jobs.
Let's assume it's courage, OK?
Are these the "advisors" that trained ISIS, or is this a completely different set of "advisors" to "advise" (Eliminate) the orginial advisors now aligned with ISIS?
Will this be the first time we entered a war with orders coming from a golf cart? I wish I could re-read that and think it funny.
Golf Cart Diplomacy
Obama's golf cart comes equipped with a teleprompter. He's also got the sickle and hammer head covers courtesy of George Soros.
And a Taylor Made Neutron Football - b..b..b..barry & the jets.
I call BS. This guy has lied about everything, including his grand mother, has not shown any logical strategies at all (except that his fav past time is golf) and we're expected to believe this non-sense?
he's a well and long groomed puppet. We need to always bear that in mind. Obama and Bush did not change policies on the things that matter to the Deep State/shadow government.
How's that mothballing the A-10 working out?
It looks like he is setting the US up for failure on purpose.
it's in his genes.
what happens when rebuilt seal team six comes up against cia death squads.
what happens when the state dept hits the pentagon in the theatre of fucked up zionist operations.
result arab weak
israel stronger
psy operations
no needs for bad act robbie parkers.
Other than perpetually recharged ebt cards, I really can't think of a "promise" this guy has kept.
he promised to destroy amerika as we know it, he's well on his way.
I'm sure he's considering all the political implications
The new "Rainbow Regiment" will hump it all over Iraq.
In 1944 Poland, a Jewish shop keeper named Jakob is summoned to ghetto headquarters after being caught out near curfew. While waiting for the German Kommondant, Jakob overhears a German radio broadcast about Russian troop movements. Returned to the ghetto, the shopkeeper shares his information with a friend and then rumors fly that there is a secret radio within the ghetto. Jakob uses the chance to spread hope throughout the ghetto by continuing to tell favorable tales of information from "his secret radio." Jakob, however, has a real secret in that he is hiding a young Jewish girl who escaped from a camp transport train. A rather uplifting and slightly humorous film about World War II Jewish Ghetto life.
robin williams was jakob the liar
who cares about the fucking iraqis they are nothing all that matters is the nazi holocaust and the jews.
poor picasso rich robin married a lovely jewish lady couple a years later your star whacked then your dead already
rip
75 consultants to operate 5000 drones - only 50 in the air at a time though
They may be there to try out the new 'single-use' drones. The ones with heat & shape ID chips and 1 each .44 hollow point round. They swarm out of a tractor trailer and don't stop until they get a target down. 100,000/trailer. Voila! Done and done.
so where is Congress is all this? they, as WE THE PEOPLE, supposedly approve the financing of all this.
Oh, I forgot, Congress is on recess!
All the best play comes at recess.
Does "boots on the ground" mean armed forces only, or does it include paid mercenaries?
Surely the media will ask him soon...
These will end up being 'boots in the ground', and O'BOLA and his corporate patrons know it.
This is a war of Reformation. When values are reformed, you nip the bad and bolster the good. I expect we will all get behind the Kurds. That will cause problems for the Turks, but they don't matter anymore. No one trusts them. Expect Turkey to break up in 5 years.
The Iraq situation is lost! The green zone is on borrowed time and 100 or 300 advisers won't make any difference. The only chance of riding the ISIS out of Iraq, Syria, is with an occupational force again. Will that happen at the same time as EU member states funding and supplying al-nursha at Syria's northern boarder, not likely.
In and Out, In and Out.
Wars and whores are all the same.
"Good Morning Vietnam!" God Bless Robin Williams (RIP).
What is it about Democratic Presidents and Military Advisors? Get on with it -- or get off it. Know what you want to do -- or forget about it. Iraq needs both a Military and Political endgame. Half-assed is half-assed.
Not one more American needs to die to implement the failed policies of incompetent and timid leadership.
Gee, if only that 'stoopid' W had called the soldiers 'advisers', then the press would have accepted that and would never have given him a hard time.
Question for the press: How many advisers do there have to be before they become boots on the ground? I'm sure you will be pressing for the answer from Teflon Barry.
does no one else see the irony in Obama having to call in airstrikes from a carrier named after a Bush?
Not at all. I find it interesting that you find it ironic.
What were those guys called in the early days of Viet Nam? Oh yeah... advisors.
This gets the coveted Colon Powell award for jive-ass bullshit, with jive-ass clusters.
Obola said the other day that "Iraq has no US military solution."
Oh yeah? Well tell that to the 50,000 Americans who have come back from Bushbama's banker wars with traumatic life-altering injuries.
Consult the history books on Vietnam, then consider the debt issues that we have, and you can arrive at some possibilities.
Lindsay Graham is demanding loafers (with tassels) on the ground.
He thinks boots are too butch
very ... humanitarian of them....
It's a tough job identifying who to target when all you see is a bunch of turban-heads riding around in a pickup truck waving AK-47's. Are they ISIS, Kurd, Sunni volunteer, Shiite volunteer, Iraqi army, Maliki security forces, CIA undercover troops, Mercs, etc).
Why the reluctance to bomb ISIS, who, by their own account, are killing and cutting the heads off of people, including children? I never thought I would see the day when an American president would just walk away from something like this.
Could it be that the IS(what it)IS cannibal army IS the arab division of the US Army.
You have to marvel at the Newspeak. What on dear earth is a "military adviser"?
BTW, "boots on the ground" sounds ridiculous, like some cool catchphrase straight out of a Hollywood teen movie.
It has just been announced that the army have been issued with dessert style CROCS. Mr Obama can keep his promise by no boots on the ground.