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The One Question About Ebola That Nobody Can Seem To Answer

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

How in the world is it possible that more than 170 health workers have been infected by the Ebola virus?  That is the one question about Ebola that nobody can seem to answer.  The World Health Organization is reporting this as a fact, but no explanation is given as to why this is happening.  We are just assured that Ebola “is not airborne” and that getting infected “requires close contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person”.  If this is true, then how have more than 170 health workers caught the disease?  These workers are dressed head to toe in suits that are specifically designed to prevent the spread of the virus.  So how is this happening?  I could understand a handful of “mistakes” by health workers, but this is unlike anything that we have ever seen in the history of infectious diseases.  These health workers take extraordinary precautions to keep from getting the virus.  If it is spreading so easily to them, what chance is the general population going to have?

Overall, more than 1,700 people have been officially infected and more than 900 people have officially died so far.  But an official from Samaritan’s Purse says that the real numbers are probably far, far higher

Ken Isaacs, the vice president of Program and Government Relations for Samaritan’s Purse, painted an even bleaker picture. According to the World Health Organization, West Africa has counted 1,711 diagnoses and 932 deaths, already, which could represent only a small fraction of the true number. “We believe that these numbers represent just 25 to 50 percent of what is happening,” said Isaacs.


In a six-hour meeting with the president of Liberia last week, Isaacs said workers from Samaritan’s Purse and SIM watched as the “somber” officials explained the gravity of the situation in their countries, where hundreds lie dead in the streets. “It has an atmosphere of apocalypse,” Isaacs said of the Liberia Ministry of Health’s status updates. “Bodies lying in the street…gangs threatening to burn down hospitals. I believe this disease has the potential to be a national security risk for many nations. Our response has been a failure.” Isaacs says that the epidemic is inciting panic worldwide that, in his opinion, may soon be warranted. “We have to fight it now here or we’re going to have to fight it somewhere else.”

In an official statement released on Monday, the World Health Organization even admitted that some potential Ebola patients “are being turned away”…

The recent surge in the number of cases has stretched all capacities to the breaking point. Supplies of personal protective equipment and disinfectants are inadequate. The outbreak continues to outstrip diagnostic capacity, delaying the confirmation or exclusion of cases and impeding contact tracing.


Some treatment facilities are overflowing; all beds are occupied and patients are being turned away.

Like I have said before, this has the potential to become the greatest health crisis that any of us have ever seen.

Up until this point, the outbreak has been primarily limited to Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia.

But now it is starting to pop up in more countries around Africa.

For example, the number of confirmed cases in Nigeria has reached ten…

Nigeria on Monday confirmed a new case of Ebola in the financial capital Lagos, bringing the total number of people in the country with the virus to 10.


Health minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said the latest confirmed case was a female nurse who came into contact with a Liberian-American man, Patrick Sawyer, who died of Ebola in a Lagos hospital on July 25.


In addition to Sawyer, another nurse who had contact with him died last week, while seven other people have been confirmed to have the virus in the city, he added.

And it looks like we may now have our first case of Ebola in Rwanda

Rwanda’s health officials have placed a man suspected of suffering from Ebola in isolation at King Faisal Hospital Kigali. A statement by the Ministry of Health released on Sunday indicates that the patient had been tested with results still expected. Samples from the suspected case have been sent for testing to an international accredited laboratory, and results will be available in 48 hours, the statement said. The suspected case is a European medical student, according to the statement. It is the first suspected Ebola case in Rwanda since the outbreak of the virus in West Africa. The government urged the public to remain calm and vigilant, as the ministry is closely monitoring the situation.


All the preventive measures needed in line with national standards are already in place, including surveillance systems and emergency management systems, it assured, adding “Health workers have been trained across the country and are vigilant.” This will enable timely detection, notification and appropriate management of any suspected cases to safeguard Rwandans, the statement concluded.

Over in Ghana, a man that just died is being tested for the Ebola virus…

Ghana may be recording its first case of Ebola if tests on the blood samples of a Burkinabe man suspected to have died of Ebola proves positive. The man who was rushed to the Bawku Presby Hospital in the Upper East Region from Burkina Faso, died on arrival. The Medical Director at the Hospital, Dr Joseph Yaw Manu, who confirmed the incident to Citi News, said they sent the blood samples for testing because the man was brought in showing symptoms of Ebola. In an interview with Citi News, Dr. Manu said the patient was bleeding from his nostrils which raised their suspicion he may have died of the Ebola disease. Dr. Manu said they are awaiting the results from the blood sample test to verify the cause of death. He gave the assurance that the hospital is prepared to battle the disease. This is the fourth suspected case of Ebola reported in Ghana; two in Kumasi, one in Accra and now the Upper East Region.

Lastly, the little nation of Benin is now reporting two potential cases of Ebola

Benin has reported two cases of the deadly Ebola virus in the west African country. Health Ministry official Aboubacar Moufiliatou said that a man suspected to have contracted the virus had died. “Fortunately, blood samples have been taken from the deceased patient to examine if his death was linked with Ebola,” Moufililatou told the state television Thursday night. He said another man has been quarantined after showing symptoms of the deadly virus after returning from the Nigerian city of Lagos. “Blood tests from the suspected case will be conducted in laboratories approved by the World Health Organization (WHO) to confirm or deny the infection,” he said. The WHO has declared the Ebola outbreak in West Africa to be an “international public health emergency” as the virus reportedly continues to spread through the region in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria. According to the latest WHO report, Ebola has killed 932 people in West Africa. The Ebola virus, a contagious disease for which there is no known treatment or cure, can be transmitted to humans from wild animals and also spreads through contact with the body fluids of an infected person or someone who has died of the disease. Medical doctors say common symptoms of Ebola include high fever and headaches, followed by bleeding from openings in the body. If the cases turn out to be Ebola, this would be the fifth country in Africa where the virus has spread.

We are quickly getting to the point where it will become impossible to contain this virus.

And if it spreads to the United States, we are going to be in a massive amount of trouble.  The truth is that we are not prepared for an Ebola pandemic, and such a crisis would create a massive wave of panic and fear all over this country.

Unfortunately, despite the risks, we continue to bring people back to this country before we know that it is safe to do so

Health officials in North Carolina said on Sunday they will require missionaries and others coming home after working with people infected with Ebola in Africa to be placed in quarantine.


The quarantine is set to last for three weeks from the last exposure to someone infected in the West African Ebola outbreak, which is centred in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, the officials said.


Missionaries from the North Carolina-based Christian aid groups SIM USA and Samaritan’s Purse have been working to help combat the world’s worst outbreak of the disease. Two of the relief workers, Dr Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol, contracted the disease and are being cared for at Emory University hospital in Georgia.

Why couldn’t those individuals just be quarantined over there an extra three weeks in a safe area and then come home?

All it takes is one sick person.  Once the disease gets here and starts spreading, there isn’t much that we can do about it.  There is no cure for Ebola, and according to the New York Times it is going to be quite a while before one is potentially available…

The drugs that could potentially treat those already infected and the vaccines to protect healthy people from infection are all in the earliest stages of testing. And even if they do pass muster in clinical trials, they cannot be produced in large quantities quickly enough to stem the widening epidemic anytime soon.

And the CDC agrees with this assessment

“We do not know how to treat Ebola or vaccinate against it - and it will be a long time before we do.”

Those are very sobering words.

For now, our health officials are telling us that we have very little to be concerned about.

But they can’t even tell us why more than 170 health workers have caught the virus.

So let’s hope for the best, but let us also prepare for the worst.


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Tue, 08/12/2014 - 21:55 | 5085271 Overfed
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At least it wasn't a numbered list this time. Captain Tripps is on deck, bitchez.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 21:57 | 5085281 linniepar
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Because it's been weaponized?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 21:59 | 5085292 Overfed
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Probably. Stupid fucks playing God will be the death of us all. People who even want the existence of bio-weapons deserve to die in a fire.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:03 | 5085324 CClarity
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Because they administer to someone with Flu like symptoms and don't know it's Ebola when coughed on or saliva from thermometer, or helping to vomit. They probably, mostly, are not the health workers who KNOW they're working with Ebola and therefore are suited up and taking precautions.

Except the doctor who came back to the states.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:09 | 5085336 Publicus
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Healthcare employees are some of the most unhealthy people around. They lack sleep, and they lack nutrition. Their immue system is overworked by all the exposure to chemicals, vaccines, and the sick.

They will fall like a house of cards. The emperor has no clothes.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:23 | 5085399 666
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The 1918 flu pandemic killed an estimated 50 - 100 million people. Will Ebola be worse than that, given modern medical science? Maybe Mother Nature decided to finally do something about the overpopulation problem, since conventional wars take too long nowadays.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:42 | 5085469 Publicus
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The sickness industry is losing on all fronts. Bacteria is on the verge of victory over humans, and soon virus shall do the same.

Old human is on the way out, those who know the way will replace them.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:12 | 5085570 suteibu
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The old human will be just fine.  The new, overdosed, sanitized, antibiotic, anti-bacterial, germicidal-bred generations will be the first to suffer.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:40 | 5085633 knukles
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They're all getting it because it's transmitted through the air.  Aerosol, floats in the air, highly virulent, feasts upon anything close to flesh and blood, almost as if it were conscious, and vicarious.  It is airborne and by more than a fucking sneeze.  That's why.
Sneeze, sweat, fart, poop, piss and it's all over and sits and waits on the wall, the floor, dirt, toilet seat, towel, glass, you name it.

More serious than a heart attack as the old saying goes.

Why is this guy even posing the question?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:57 | 5085696 Anusocracy
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First Ebola came for the frail
and I did nothing
because I was not frail.
Then Ebola came for the sex workers
and I did nothing
because I was not a sex worker .
Then Ebola came for the careless
and I did nothing
because I was not careless.
Then Ebola came for me
and there was no one left
for me to give it to.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:09 | 5085722 CheapBastard
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My money is still on defective hazmat gear. Who made it and where were those “protective suits” made? Remember the Challenger? A simple defective o-ring caused billions in damages and many dead. Look how many defective cars at GM....and the list goes on. It's only human to makes mistakes or have a faulty piece of equipment that's stamping those suits out. Or how about a disgruntled emploer with a safety pin at the hazmat gear place?



Seems obvious to me if you assume the other things are facts: that is transmitted by fluids and/or airborne and it’s highly contagious. I’m puzzled they have not investigated this aspect yet and tested those fashionable body suits.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:02 | 5085842 wee-weed up
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Frankly, they don't really know...
And they're deathly afraid to admit...
What they suspect.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:15 | 5085865 DeadFred
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You'll know it's really serious when they stop reporting it in favor of some mindless Court TV event

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:45 | 5085941 Manthong
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.probably best not to share hankies..

Or not to have the middle seat coming back from Ebolia.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 02:13 | 5085972 Elvis the Pelvis
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Life's a losing game.  If Ebola doesn't get you, then you'll probably get hit by a bus.  Bitchez.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 02:59 | 5086019 Herd Redirectio...
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In the villages where this used to happen, the way they let it burn out was...

By burning it out!  Once you had EBOLA, they sent you into your hut, if you emerge, you are shot.  You are supposed to come out in say 4 or 5 days.  After that time, they yell, if you respond, you survived.  No response?  The hut is burnt down.

Why are we holding these people in hospital and taking vitals and shit?  Repeatedly exposing multiple people?  And the rooms are re-used, never mind equipment?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 04:27 | 5086109 Skateboarder
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To purposefully spread disease. No offense to anyone, but you have to be stupider than hell to not get that one.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 06:16 | 5086195 negative rates
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The media and Feds are only allowed to print happy things, the bad stuff is filtered and then spun to the MSM liking.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 07:29 | 5086302 AE911Truth
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If we don't implement a population reduction plan then Mother Nature will.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 07:59 | 5086369 sleigher
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Ebola victims unite!  We want equal rights.  

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:21 | 5087002 dizzyfingers
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"The Ebola Effect: Hyping the Next Bioweapon For Fear and Profit"

Watchful waiting and due concern for now. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 03:00 | 5086021 California Nigh...
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Juncker:  "When it gets serious, you have to lie."

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 11:04 | 5087243 dizzyfingers
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"What you’re not being told" Ebola IS an airborne virus. 

Not a doubt in my mind about this -- perhaps not all cases are Zaire variant airborne but I'd bet my house and car on much if not most of the deaths being from Zaire variant airborne.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 04:05 | 5086091 Hobbleknee
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Yes, in the first pictures that came out, the suits looked like paint suits, and they were wearing saftey goggles from wood shop, with sheets duct-taped to their heads.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 08:59 | 5086572 SethDealer
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you can bet the trial lawyers are about to sue the hazmat suit manufacturers. its the american way

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 02:39 | 5085999 janus
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yours is a post i'd like to up-arrow several times more.

that was rather clever...something even i would'a been proud of.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 03:35 | 5086063 Dubaibanker
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Third person from Ebola has now died in Lagos who came in contact with the first casualty of Ebola in Nigeria - Patrick Sawyer - who was Liberian/US national: 

ECOWAS official dies of Ebola in Nigeria

But is not airborne....they were all exchanging 'body fluids' (i.e. saliva, semen, blood transfusions, needles etc) in their meetings at the airport! :)

This is what CDC has to say:

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 06:35 | 5086217 August
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Back to the old species-survival strategy: reproduce as early, and as often, as possible. 

Don't be concerned about giving your kids a great edumacation, or an inheritance, just have as many as you possibly can.

Once they get to 14 or so, they can fend for themselves, or not.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:39 | 5085640 Money Squid
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"Old human is on the way out..."

this gives me an idea for a great movie. You see humans are almost completely wiped out when an ape virus mutates and spreads to humans. Then the apes take over the world. A few white dudes (and of course a couple of hot chicks) survive and try to escape from the "Apes of the Planet" Yeah !

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:41 | 5085797 SilverIsKing
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Would you use real apes in the film or actors dressed as apes?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:50 | 5085946 Manthong
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You might have something there..

could be a success if enough white folks buy into monkeys running the planet.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 02:17 | 5085965 Manthong
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..amaxiong how may simps are running around.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 06:46 | 5086235 spieslikeus
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I see what you did there

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 08:06 | 5086379 mccvilb
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What do you mean, if?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 09:48 | 5086818 RafterManFMJ
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I think your movie idea has some serious potential; maybe even a franchise!

Set up a kickstarter and I'll throw you a few hundred bucks - if you promise Mark Wahlberg won't be allowed within 500 miles of the set.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:45 | 5085477 fattail
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That was a three percent mortality rate..  50 million people.  30% of 7 billion is 2,100 million people.  Have to fire up the furnaces.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:59 | 5085520 asteroids
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Yup, wait until it hits China, India, Pakistan, the Phillipines, etc....

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:11 | 5085734 Matt
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They already reported 7 confirmed in Phillipines, but there was no clarification on if it was the local REBOV or this ZEBOV / GEBOV.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:16 | 5085744 palmereldritch
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Not yet.  Their level of automation and robotics isn't fully developed.  In the interim, they beta test.

Action (observe and record)...reaction (map and extrapolate)...synthesis (condition, plan and adjust)

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:59 | 5085524 LetThemEatRand
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If it is airborne, and they don't have a cure already (or one that will be made available to "ordinary" people), the 30% will rise significantly because of lack of basic resources.  1st world hospitals and infrastructure would fail almost overnight if even 1% of the population came down with the virus.  Who in their right mind is going to go to work to man the coal plant, nuclear plant, hospital, phone center, etc?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:41 | 5085649 knukles
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Survivor's Delima, so to speak.
And who will go even when the people are all burnt out, when the virus sits on surfaces, just waiting for someone to ....

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:51 | 5085672 LetThemEatRand
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The one thing missing from every zombie/virus/other end-of-civilization movie is what happens to the nuke plants that are not manned.   If the shit ever really hits the fan, it won't be the way Hollywood suggests.   

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:53 | 5085686 knukles
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Tee hee....
If left on and the cooling generators run out of gas (like when they flood) woe is begonzo...
But then again, any new mutation via high radiation will likely kill the Annanuki when they come back for the rest of their gold, so no big deal.

The cockroaches will have a feast of plenty, either way

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:00 | 5085704 LetThemEatRand
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And maybe the radiation will kill the virus.  All part of their brilliant plan, I'm sure, including Blankfein growing two heads that will fight each other to the death while Dimon watches.  It will be a helluva show.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:10 | 5085728 knukles
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Now we understand the DUMBS.....

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:27 | 5087050 TuPhat
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you're both very funny.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 02:36 | 5085989 Overfed
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It really depends on whether or not they put them into cold shutdown before abandoning the place.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 08:08 | 5086384 LeisureSmith
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Cold shutdown is kinda like the federal reserve.... Not cold, not shut down....Not federal, no reserve.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 06:47 | 5086238 ugmug
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Democrat fundraisers will never disappear!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 07:21 | 5086277 eurobug
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Any developed-world nuke plant has control rods in place that have to be actively held up out of the cory. Any hiccup and they simply fall into the core due to gravity (these things are heavy), stopping the reaction completely. You could simply leave any nuke plant alone, they should stop working without any consequences. Except when sabotage is involved, e.g. as happened in the Belgian nuke plant a couple of days ago.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 08:24 | 5086427 RobD
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Unfortunatly the weekness is the cooling ponds. If the pumps stop the cooling ponds boil off and they go fukashima. Takes years for those rods to cool enough to remove them.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 05:25 | 5086157 LostandFound
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If it was airborne there would be more victims and cases right now. This has been ongoing for weeks. Something doesn't stack up though with what we are being told.

I meet 20 people per day
If 20 people met 20 people per day and this multiplied it would be exponentially more than now.

Saying this was id the typical period between contracting the virus and dying? Maybe a shit load of deaths all of a sudden would give it away.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:50 | 5085665 SilverRhino
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I've been trying to figure this one out.   Google isnt helping much. 

Just what would the effect of losing 50% of the population at the global level do to civilization.  

I'd like to think that we could still survive but I really wonder how much of the infrastructure would survive if 1 out of ever 2 people dies.   

I also think that this pandemic is going to utterly wipe out the underclass (poor) and the elderly.  

The Third Pandemic by Pierre Ouliette was pretty disturbing




Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:55 | 5085693 knukles
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Shortage of housing kinda disappears.  As does food in the grocery.
As long as I can get a good corned beef on rye with mustard, mayo and swiss, it's all good.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:36 | 5085784 palmereldritch
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If only there was an overcapacity of high rise buildings built near rail corridors in an incipient urban ghetto environment to house the survivors that would allow the hinterlands to wild in some type of planned fashion....


A man, a plan, a canal, Panama

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:02 | 5085709 Anusocracy
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Well, the necrophilliacs will be in heaven.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 02:02 | 5085961 MsCreant
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The necros can only phil the liacs for about 21 days or less, then they die. I doubt they go to heaven.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:08 | 5085725 stacking12321
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i would guess it would have a stabilizing effect on the overall level of civilization.

at 7 billion+, human beings are mostly redundant, a copy of a copy of a copy.

we all like to think we are special, that we are that unique and beautiful snowflake, but we're not. for everyone that disappears, there's someone else that can take their place.

right now, the global war situation is heating up due to not enough resources to go around, and too many people.

things are very unstable economically and politically due to resource scarcity.

with half the people, the available resources per person would be more plentiful. the survivors would probably live lives of greater abundance, and the pressure of war would greatly subside.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:15 | 5085742 Son of Loki
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'Ghost Cities' become even more Ghostly.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:44 | 5085810 SilverIsKing
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Do they have ZeroHedge in heaven?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:21 | 5085878 Grexlag
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Yes, but it's Zerohedge 2009-2011. Not this.
(Still good, but not like it was with Jonnybravo, Mathman and Silverbears)

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 07:59 | 5086370 Raging Debate
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Stacking - I never could subscribe to Malthusian ideology and it should never be promoted as it has proven false. I view more shortage by supply-side economics than real shortage but I'll admit your point is probably accurate about abundance if a die-off occurred.

If 1/3 of the population died between now and say 2020 what you would see is labor shortage. A guy digging a ditch would be worth $30 an hour. So sure if you were one of the 2/3rds you would have abundance. A rebalancing of capital and labor.

The survivors would be a lot more salty and shrewd like after Great Generation after the depression and WW2. Such would not be so easily controlled and become much more cynical and less trusting of institutions. If a die-off was part of a conspiracy by a few in power it would backfire as labor would be more expensive and the people less easily controlled.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:40 | 5087127 MachoMan
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A third of the population dies off and you're discussing wages?  What does any of this have to do with the population being easier or harder to control?  Your thesis is that if we have less people, citizens are harder to control?  Are only the smartest going to survive in this scenario?  The most proactive?

You must be an academic...  probably econ or finance...  something where "all else equal" is used.  The die off wouldn't exist in a bubble...  and decreases in the population would cause significant political changes that would likely render your scenario unrealistic or, at the very least, make the guessing game worthless.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:04 | 5088123 stacking12321
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not sure what you mean by "malthusian ideology", as i've never read malthus. is there an ideology? as far as i know, he merely suggested that exponential growth cannot continue indefinitely on a finite planet, which seems to be common sense. like bacteria growing exponentially in a petri dish, until they exhaust the food supply and a die-off occurs. we humans like to think we are special and different and the laws of nature don't apply to us, but i'm not so sure that's the case.

and i'm not sure what you mean by "proven false", can you elaborate on that? his writings are still being debated, i don't believe any side of the debate can honestly say, we've been proven right and the other guys are proven wrong.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:47 | 5087144 matrix2012
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The life of mankind will even be more manageable if the conditions stated at the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES can be realized as wished by some tribe... :-) 

"The Georgia Guidestones are a huge stonehenge-like arrangement of granite slabs erected in the early 1980s for mysterious reasons; the persons who commissioned the stones are unknown. Carved into their sides are statements in several languages to be used, presumably, as societal directives in the context of some sort of post-apocalyptic future-a reboot disk for human civilization."


The First guideline of the Ten Commandment of Georgia Guidestones:

>>> Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. <<<


Carved in Stone: “Maintain Humanity Under 500,000,000... |  Dregs of the Future


* This American version of stonehenge just reminds me about the openly displayed bizarre and dreadful paintings and statue in the Denver International Airport...


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 13:49 | 5088037 stacking12321
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you're mistaken about georgia guidestones being "commandments", they are not, they are merely some reasonable suggestions. i've read them over, they are reasonable ideas, there's nothing sinister there, unlike what the inforwars/naturalnews/chemtrail crowd would have you believe.

it's like, "ooh! we don't know who built it! it must be an evil conspiracy!"

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:50 | 5088702 IndyPat
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Your are a sick fuck, for sure.

Reasonable. Yeah.

Hope it all seems so very reasonable when a fountain of blood the size of Old Faithful sprays out of your ass. It's all so very "reasonable" when it is happening to some skinny in some far off country.


Thu, 08/14/2014 - 02:45 | 5091048 stacking12321
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you're a confused and angry little man, full of hatred, but with little understanding of what you are talking about.

why don't you re-read what you just wrote, and tell me if that's something written by a reasonable, well-adjusted person?

georgia guidestones say absolutely nothing about killing anyone off.

instead of spewing hatred inspired by nonsensical doomer sites like infowars and naturalnews, try actually thinking for yourself and reading the content of the georgia guidestones.

instead of swearing at me like a spoiled angry 13 year old, how about telling me in normal english what is the problem with the statements made there?

i mean, really read the statements on the guidestones and think for yourself, instead of just hating because some website told you that you're supposed to hate it?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:17 | 5085751 Matt
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It depends on whether a healthy diet or an experienced immune system is a better advantage against EVD. If living in filth is an advantage, a disporportionate amount of Asians will come out the other side, while lots of rich white people will be liquified.

If half the world's population dies from Ebola, I bet another 40% dies in the chaos easily. Riots, panic, starvation will kick in pretty fast once, say, a tenth of a city is sick and a couple percent have died.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:33 | 5085926 the tower
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Actually, Ebola takes out the young, because their immune systems overreact to this virus. The lungs produce too much fluid so they "drown". So far, older people with a normal immne system - and previous infections that provide some sort of protection - have a higher chance of survival.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 03:21 | 5086049 barre-de-rire
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total unemployment gone, witch is goo thing. more quality in food probably.


if economiy get electroshock we could realize  that poast amount of gain is no longer possible, so, price wouldn ot increase that much.

more space for every one. could be a good thing, globaly.


anyway if we do not do something in 20 years we will never be able to transport anything coz of oil price & 2 billion people more ( 1 for africa alone ) this will just not be admitable.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:25 | 5085409 BuddyEffed
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Flies maybe?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:42 | 5085470 Ben Ghazi
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Probably some cafeteria employee with Ebola jacking off all over their food in the kitchen.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:50 | 5085682 Citxmech
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Ever see "The Invastion?"  Thinking of that scene where the caterers are all puking in the soup at the convention.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:03 | 5085713 Almost Solvent
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Or Ghost Ship where the kitchen staff is dumping rat poison into the soup

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:09 | 5085729 stacking12321
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or fight club where tyler durden is pissing in the lobster bisque

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:17 | 5085375 Redneck Hippy
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Whole lot of lying going on.

One guy who was sick managed to infect 10 other people in Nigeria in about a 24 hour period, if you believe what they say.  This doesn't seem like a virus that is hard to transmit.

In Senegal they arrested a journalist for saying there was five suspected cases there.  

When the health workers remaining in Liberia spend most of their time picking up corpses, who is left to count the new cases?  And who takes blood samples from a corpse just to make sure it's Ebola?

Nobody really knows the extent of this epidemic anymore.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:50 | 5085828 AustriAnnie
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"And who takes blood samples from a corpse just to make sure it's Ebola?"

Nobody.  It is being reported that bodies are being buried or burned without ever confirming it was ebola, and without being documented as an ebola death (ie. the new cases in many places are not being counted)

"Liberia's government is cremating the remains of possible Ebola victims without testing whether they have the virus, leaving relations unaware if they may be at risk of the disease as well...such is the chaos in Liberia's health service, ministry of health undertakers are being instructed simply to take them directly for cremation.

When The Telegraph accompanied one such team on their collection duties last week in the Liberian capital, Monrovia, the four bodies collected during the course of an afternoon were driven straight to the crematorium at the nearby town of Marshall."

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 08:34 | 5086472 imaginalis
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They will probably start cremating the relatives soon too, without waiting for them to contract the disease.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:18 | 5085380 BraveSirRobin
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But Ebloa HAS been recognized as airborn by the CDC. From the CDC web page updated on August 7. It says Ebola may be transmitted via "casual contact" with infected individuals. Buried in the footnotes, the CDC defines "casual contact" as:
1 Casual contact is defined as a) being within approximately 3 feet (1 meter) or within the room or care area for a prolonged period of time (e.g., healthcare personnel, household members) while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment (i.e., droplet and contact precautions–see Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations); or b) having direct brief contact (e.g., shaking hands) with an EVD case while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment (i.e., droplet and contact precautions–see Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations). At this time, brief interactions, such as walking by a person or moving through a hospital, do not constitute casual contact.

What they are saying here is that Ebola is airborne. Previously they said it could only be transmitted via direct contact with body fluids of infected people. I am not at all sure why this is not being reported widely with great alarm. Please see the link.
Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:57 | 5085514 OldPhart
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CDC is playing's probably not airborne as they keep stressing, but that doesn't preclude suspention in water vapor or droplets from coughing, sneezing or farting.


Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:43 | 5085652 knukles
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It is MORE Airborne than they're saying!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:45 | 5085811 williambanzai7
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Semantics is the civilized art of lying.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 08:20 | 5086419 Uncle Remus
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I would have figured marriage as the civilized art of lying.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 09:08 | 5086609 knukles
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Ba da-ump (sound of drums)
Well done.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:02 | 5085847 decon
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Exactly, they're treating people with Ebola and they don't know it and therefore don't wear elaborate protective gear.  It would be a major pain to wear that stuff all the time you're working.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:13 | 5086948 IndyPat
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It's a major pain shitting your guts out your ass, too. Until it's not. And your dead.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:03 | 5085848 Antifaschistische
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"Health officials in North Carolina said on Sunday they will require missionaries and others coming home after working with people infected with Ebola in Africa to be placed in quarantine."


How about quarantining them some place OTHER than the United States!!    Jamaica, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, etc.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:52 | 5085950 Global Observer
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Why would Jamaica, Cuba or any other country be interested in hosting Americans poetntially carrying the Ebola virus?

They could probably be quarantined in Guantanamo Bay because the US still occupies the territory. Cuba may not actually mind that, if the infection spreads among the US Marines stationed there and half of them end up dead.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:15 | 5086957 IndyPat
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Or a hospital ship. There's an novel idea.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 11:16 | 5087304 dizzyfingers
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IndyPat re hospital ship.

In Europe during the 300+ years of black plague, ships' rats often were the vector in not-yet-infected countries/regions.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 12:41 | 5087749 IndyPat
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We know this now.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:29 | 5085613 TheReplacement
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At best they could only be the death of most of us.  The final say rests at a higher paygrade than these people.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:28 | 5085771 Idaho potato head
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That includes ALL missionaries, heal yourselves first mutha fakers.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:00 | 5085303 THX 1178
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Maybe. At very least it is airborne. Many have admitted it so far... but MSM and .gov don;t want to cause panic. Actually, I bet MSM would tTEMPORARILY see a huge spike in ratings shoudl this thing go parabolic.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:40 | 5085644 ebworthen
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They won't admit it is airborne because it would hurt the economy.

God forbid they cancel inbound flights or commerce!

The airlines!  The corporations!  Save them!

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:44 | 5085655 knukles
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 06:39 | 5086225 taraxias
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Close but no cigar. The stock market NOT the economy.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:16 | 5086960 Uncle Remus
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Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:15 | 5085372 junction
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Disease vector unknown. Treatment options virtually nil.  Rate of spread increasing.  Public sanitation in epidemic sites non-existent.  Medical facilities collapsing. (3 of the 60 doctors in Liberia victims of Ebola so far). 

Hypothesis: Transmission of disease via insect vector, possibly a tick.  If that is the case, burn all of the infected person's clothing and spray the patient with broad spectrum insecticide (Malathion).  

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:27 | 5085418 photonsoflight
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Fleas and mosquito s as well as other blood suckers also.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:48 | 5085489 fattail
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Mosquito vector would at least give us a reprieve in winter.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:32 | 5085621 TheReplacement
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Annnnnd advantage Arabs.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:10 | 5085667 knukles
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It is a virtual certainty that some Muzzie ISILst, believing that he is carrying out his duties under the 5 fingers (pillars) of the Koran, has already been to an infected area, kissed corpses and the dying, traded spit, made it to Mexico and across an unprotected boundary that nobody can or will enforce and is alreday stumbling into movie theaters, malls and restaurants.
If one of those God's Warriors for Peace thinks blowing his ass up with a bomb vest is OK, then this shit would be FUCKING GLORIOUS

Halleluiah Motherfuckers and Allah Ackbahr

There are no Goddamned coincidences here, folks

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 03:01 | 5086020 Implied Violins
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Reading that just made my eyes bleed. Fuck FUCK...what if they are in grocery stores fondling fruits and veggies, smearing snot on ATM's, sneezing on gas pumps? Shit they could literally infest hundreds of places every day. They could stand next to an AC inlet to a large building and just spit on it. They could lick every public water fountain they walk by. Hell, they could just pull down their pants and let loose into public wells or water towers. This is SICK SHIT...FUCK YOU for my ensuing nightmares. fuck FUCK

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 03:08 | 5086031 California Nigh...
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Maybe instead of dropping bombs on ISIS, we should substitute fresh corpses from Liberia.

Hard to run around decapitating heretics when blood is gushing out of your bunghole.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 12:12 | 5087606 fallout11
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There is historical precedent for such biological warfare methods:

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 07:05 | 5086256 August
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Karma meets the Great Satan.

Watch... and learn.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 05:33 | 5086159 Urban Redneck
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And that reprieve would be negated by flu season.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:29 | 5087060 IndyPat
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I think we are set for another hellacious winter, what with an average July temp of 71 degrees here in Indianapolis. Record low temps.
Nothing like the cold to make everyone huddle indoors. Snuggle up.
Ebola is going to dig that.

I think someone on here recently projected the current numbers out and it boiled down to a very loose bloody stool November. Awesome. Black Plague Friday, anyone? I want a gas mask, Santa!

It appears that everything the "authorities" and MSM will be feeding us in the way of real info from here on out is pure horseshit. You won't know how bad things are until your neighbor is shitting blood on your front lawn.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:20 | 5085389 photonsoflight
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Could solve the governments unfunded liability problem (social security, medicare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, etc.). Perhaps it's the elites wishes to depopulate the world also. I have no doubt that it has been weaponized, neither do I doubt that TPTB are evil enough to unleash something like this upon the world.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:47 | 5085820 BlindMonkey
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Nothing like playing the actuarial tables to make you feel like a slimy piece of shit.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 06:50 | 5086240 Lanka
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TPTB likely are not immunized against Ebola, and would be playing a high stakes game if they are releasing it.  Per the Georgia Guidestones, the world population should be reduced to 500 miilion.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:49 | 5085674 weburke
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thank you. like sars, although that just flat out dissappeared after we all were told a plane contaminated was landing in toronto.  bird flu of 1918 was most likely aspirin overdoseing, to go with the verdun slaughter. thanks bayer ! 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 05:44 | 5086165 MFL5591
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Possibly put in drinking water by a criminal goverment???

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:27 | 5085419 doctor10
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I'm sure the prospects of billions of dollars of reseach money for the "21st century AIDS" has nothing to do with this!!!

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:08 | 5085551 skynet_21
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How convenient, there is a program about the black death on tv.  So let me get this straight, all countries in Africa have closed their borders/flights, but I can still get a direct flight from West Africa to Europe or NY?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:51 | 5085681 tumblemore
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if white people closed their borders because of a deadly epidemic from west africa it would be racist

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 00:41 | 5085796 Kirk2NCC1701
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I blame medical Hubris.

There is NO way these people are observing the safety gear and rules to the letter. Not in Africa.

Can you/they honestly tell me that they wear Space Suits that handle the African heat?

That they go through the multi-stage decontamination chambers?

And that they live in an island cocoon, as does everyone around them? Even the Natives?

No, I didn't bloody think so. HUBRIS! Ebola doesn't give a shit about their mental and emotional errors.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:23 | 5085880 Miffed Microbio...
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Well, you have a point. I have been on many horse camping trips and observed, in horror, several people using portable water filters to eliminate Giardia from the streams. As they removed the filter they clearly contaminated their water. They had no concept of sterile technique. I often pointed out how to do it properly except in one case where the man was being a major asshole at the campground, I felt as good swig of Giardia is what he needed.

PPE ( personal protection equipment) is only effective if used properly. I have a strong suspicion this is playing a role in this outbreak unless told otherwise. Perhaps we need to focus of the rate of Ebola or other VHF transmission in BSL 4 labs due to breeches of suits as a comparison.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 07:21 | 5086279 August
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Nothing quite like sharing a wild-country campground with a major-league asshole.

My new wilderness-neighbor was from LA, though I'm sure that had nothing to do with it.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 12:24 | 5087668 fallout11
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Accidental exposure, even for experienced and well trained microbiologists, is still plausible.
The Soviet Union had a program to weaponize Marburg, another BSL 4 hemorhagic fever virus, and eventually succeeded, but not before it claimed the lead research scientist, Nikolai Ustinov.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 21:55 | 5085276 Agent P
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I highly doubt they're wearing full hood hazmat suits. How many times a day do you touch your face?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:36 | 5085632 TheReplacement
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So you are confirming it is airborne and can penetrate the masks they do wear?

Who cares how much that dude touches himself you weirdo.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 05:36 | 5086160 Urban Redneck
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If it was that kind of "airborne" the dead would already number in the tens of millions.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 05:40 | 5086161 Ghordius
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that was my thought, too. I wonder if humidity is an important factor in the spread of Ebola

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 07:31 | 5086307 Urban Redneck
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FWIW, I know relative humidity makes people sweat more, which can't help, and certainly contributes to the spread of viral hemorrhagic Yellow Fever (and malaria) this time of year (via mosquitoes who themselves need humidity to survive and thrive).

On the other hand, cholera is most certainly not "airborne" and yet the rainy season has managed to help infect a couple thousand people in just a couple months, right down the road from ebola land, where they have more important issues right now than accurately tracking, reporting and treating cholera and malaria cases, but cholera isn't taking a toll on healthcare workers.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 21:57 | 5085283 ShortTheUS
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We'll be fine. The government says we will be.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 21:57 | 5085284 tumblemore
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"If this is true, then how have more than 170 health workers caught the disease? These workers are dressed head to toe in suits that are specifically designed to prevent the spread of the virus. So how is this happening?"


Health workers in the rural clinics where it first showed up would be in regular clothing.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:33 | 5085438 photonsoflight
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Can you imagine wearing all that protective gear in the tropics with the high heat and humidity?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:51 | 5085683 tumblemore
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Tue, 08/12/2014 - 21:57 | 5085286 yogibear
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Sure they can  deny it's highly infectious until they can't.

More BS from the globalist propaganda departments. 

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 21:58 | 5085297 fonzannoon
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Thank god....a Snyder ebola end of the world post. Now we know things are getting better.


"So let’s hope for the best, but let us also cash in any way possible on the fear for the worst.


Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:03 | 5085310 mastersnark
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They are Africans in Africa, that's why.

Not being "racist," just pointing out a secure hospital facility in Europe or USA is order of magnitude different than a secure hospital in Africa.

Let's not delude ourselves into believing the US CDC workers have the exact same suits as those at the Liberian Health Ministry, nor let's believe the support staff that are suppose to keep areas sterile are of the same quality as Johns Hopkins.

When heterosexual American or German medical providers start bleeding out the rectum, then I'll be concerned.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:06 | 5085331 Wahooo
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Yep and I sure don't trust any African government to get this right.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:31 | 5085392 AssFire
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Fixed it! Yep, and I sure don't trust any African to get anything right.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 02:41 | 5086001 Overfed
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So far we've been shown that we can't trust any government to get this right.'Cept maybe the Russians.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:12 | 5085354 zen0
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Two American health care workers that had suits got infected and are now being treated in the US,  so you can now be concerned.


Or not. I am sure you can rationalize a reason not to be, no matter what you have already stated.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:40 | 5085462 photonsoflight
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Heterosexual, lol Isee what your suggesting there, good one.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:45 | 5085479 ceilidh_trail
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@mastersnark- You are very wrong on this. Most American hospitals are also ill prepared for this should Ebola get here. I know. I have 30+ years in hospital experience- including having gone through the original outbreak ohf HIV patients before we even knew what we were dealing with. I can remember starting IVs on people and drawing blood before gloves were standard practgice. Today, that would be reason to lose your job- HIV, HBV, HCV, HVA, MRSA, GAS, ESBL and on and on...  Having seen healthcare facilities that use paper mesh gowns for contact precautions, gloves so thin that they rip while in use frequently (my current facility is guilty here) and half assed housepeepers doing half assed disinfections of rooms between patients, I am VERY worried. In fact, I will retire when this reaches my part of the USA. Few to no USA hospitals are anywhere near as ready as you think. We do NOT have the resources or skill levels of a CDC facility. This country might be able to handle 20 cases as a whole at that level. You should be very concerned. I am.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:39 | 5085636 TheReplacement
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So tomorrow is a buy you say?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:46 | 5085658 worbsid
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Along with your comments, if they could stop a virus why are staf invections so common in hospitals?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:37 | 5085933 Miffed Microbio...
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Unlike Ebola, staph LIVES on the human body. Have you ever had a pimple? Guess what, that's staphylococcus aureus, or MSSA. Nosocomial infections are common with staph and gnrs. They are both harbored by the millions on and in our bodies. Hospitals are populated by sick individuals on multiple antibiotics which selects for resistance. They shed these organisms in the hospitals and take them into the community and infect others including their pets. Every time you touch a doornob or other fomite containing these organisms and touch any mucus membrane you have inoculated yourself. You may or may not get an infection or just be a carrier.

How do you stop something that is everywhere? Welcome to my world.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:42 | 5087132 IndyPat
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That's just it, smart guy.

The infected brought here AREN'T being treated at CDC facilities or Level 4 centers. For some reason.

They are being treated in regular hospitals. They just put them in an "isolated ward".

Are they delivering meds and food and removing waste via drone? I don't fucking think so. I wouldn't count yourself safe just yet.
And if German and American providers do start bleeding out the ass, you'll be more than concerned. You'll be fucked proper.
That's going on the huge assumption that you'd even find out about spread..stateside. Which you absolutely won't.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 11:11 | 5087279 dizzyfingers
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IndyPat  That's just it, smart guy.

Again, so right. Either lack of knowledge on the part of those who sent him to regular hospital, or deep plan by deep state.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:10 | 5085314 Aussie V
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There was a report by a US Border Official a few weeks ago who said, that this is the FIRST case of an Ebola outbreak that has started in the Cities not the jungle. Every other outbreak has started in the jungles and made its way into the city.

He said, "This is almost like it was planted in 3 African cities on purpose!"

Here, I found it

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