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Obama Sends Another 130 Marines Into Iraq To... Advise
In what appears to be the peak of arrogance (at the ignorance of the American people), Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel has just announced that an additional 130 "military advisers" - mostly Marines - will be sent to Iraq to help the Kurds fight ISIS. We have two simple questions: 1) Since when did Marines become non-combat-troops? and 2) Is the President going to call all their wives and explain that their boots will not touch the ground? As gentle reminder, no less than 8 hours ago the adniinstration was considering 75 'military advisers' and now it's nearly double that?
Breaking: #SecDef Hagel announces that additional assessment team will be sent to #Iraq
— U.S. Dept of Defense (@DeptofDefense) August 12, 2014
Mostly Marines...
Hagel announces at Camp Pendleton that US has sent a new US military assessment team of 130 to Erbil today, says a large portion are Marines
— luis martinez (@LMartinezABC) August 12, 2014
But have no fear, these are not combat troops...
Hagel: #Iraq "not combat boots on ground operation. But short of that, some things we are going to continue to do & we are doing."
— Jon Williams (@WilliamsJon) August 12, 2014
DoD: US temporary additional forces comprised of @USMC & special operations forces from within @CENTCOM region. Not engaged in combat role.
— Jon Williams (@WilliamsJon) August 12, 2014
Evebn the mainstream media is starting to question the adminstration's honesty...
Extra 130 troops now in Erbil means close to 1,000 in #Iraq. But Admin says "no boots on ground". Now or ever. Begins to look ridiculous.
— Jon Williams (@WilliamsJon) August 12, 2014
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We assume that means they are going to talk the ISIS jihadis to death!!
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Jeeez, just drop a nuke over there and the problem is solved for good
Enough with the BS and wasting lives of our soldiers. Send the Chinese army there.
"no less than 8 hours ago the adniinstration was considering 75 'military advisers' and now it's nearly double that?"
Inflation. But it's transitory. Just "noise" in the data.
I read that as "Nose in the Intifada"?
Hey, this is great news!
The PYD have been getting beat to hell by ISIS for months. They're just farmers and shopkeepers and don't have decent equipment or any kind of training. Ammo is hard to come by. Little towns around the provincial capital of al Hasakah city are always under attack. The Mount Sinjar refugees helped over the border by the PYD could use the protection as well.
Assad's troops help when they can, but the PYD is mostly on it's own to fight ISIS and the FSA. Every U.S. marine will be most welcome - it's about time the Syrian Kurdish PYD get some support to fight terrorists.
Wait... the marines are going to Iraq to help the Iraqi Kurds? [facepalm] But of course... some Kurds are more equal than others.
on the bright side....was it not a breath of fresh air not having to see oblowjob on any tv or computer today.....
It's time to send in the drones. Bitchez.
...The MFFD's are being sent to Iraq.
aka
"Marine's False Flag Division"
Yeah, if you want it to look like a false-flag, you send the Marines. If you want it to BE a false-flag you send the CIA (although you don't need to send them per se, since they're already there).
What problem? The only problem I see is them pissing away more of my money to kill people. I couldn't care less if muslims want to kill each other.
Seriously, the only saving grace to all this quagmire is the 1500 year-old Sunni vs Shiite smackdown - they hate each other far more than they hate anyone else. Just think if there was only one Muslim sect?
Shudder.
If 130 troops is good 130,000 must be great right?
If we do that, no more oil to sell for dollars. Plus, no more war to distract the American populace by keeping them scared of a foreign boogeyman.
The few, the proud, the military advisers
No shit, just like the humanitarian convoy Putin is sending to Ukraine
The many, the forgotten, the dead.
Send in the swiftboats with John Kerry leading the way. McCain can follow in an ambulance.
"Ketchup if you McCan, er, can!"
Why on earth do young people keep enlisting?
They're young, and not as intelligent as you and me.
Especially with all the great jobs available out there.
Mission creep. If Obama thinks that this is going to be cheap he has another thing coming. They are about to have a civil war in the capital and as soon as the Kurds say we split, look out. The Shiites will demand and make their own territiory and they will start to grab at things also.
Shades of Vietnam. History may not repeat itself, but it sure as shit rhymes.
"Asian boys to fight Asian wars" Lyndon Baines Johnson.....
"What rhymes with 'ail your' for 1000 lives Alex."
Cue Lee Greenwood....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E
dupe
.Gov cut my soldier's leave short but the Obamas won't be missing any vacation days. It's good to be king.
You've got this all wrong, didn't you underdstand the Kobe Bryant - Lakers analogy?
It's just like basketball... well... except the part about wanting to cut the heads off the infidels and pose children with it... But otherwise, just like that...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-in-iraq-john-ke...
Ignore what they say and watch what they do. It "speaks" volumes.
I'm interested in what they will 'do' once one of these 'advisors' gets captured and beheaded on YouTube. That number of advisors will shoot up like one the Ebola charts.
"See, ya pull the trigger like this. And this. And this, this, this and this. Oh, and this,this,this,this,this,this,this,this,and this. Now watch, this is how you change mags under fire.
This is a good move. We need to start winning their hearts-n-minds.
I'm sure this time it will work.
Wonder if Obomba told them to leave all their boots at home? He just said the other day that there would be "no boots on the ground".
Advisers wear dessert camo flipflops (as opposed to the desert ones with lollipops and gumdrops and ice-cream cones).
Ohh, Ohh, Let me do a Tony Wilson impression here:
"Presidential flipflops and boot liqueurs tiptoe around the Obama-Bush, with suckers, gumbombdrops, and icecream Cohens Milkening it for all the US is worth."
"
Saul Alinsky is laughing his ass off in hell.
Mr. Alinksy was Jewish. You're a Joo hater, apparently. Go to any Klan rallies lately, Adolph?
Did I do that right, nmewn, you predictable, obnoxious cunt?
3 junks in record time heh heh heh.
why so serious???
Speaking of obnoxious cunts, well hello Duffy.
You've got a little spittle right there, in the corner of your mouth, no the other side, the left side (just like Alinsky).
Predictable.
yawn.
Obama's 'Law Library'?
It was 70 earlier. Just add a few zeros to the number and you'll have the real count.
How many us troops have been 'advising' them for the past decade? We spent trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives allegedly training these people to do this themselves, and they couldn't with 10s of thousands of boots on the ground, what makes any of these people think a handful of advisors are going to make any difference. If their army couldn't hold ground, which is by far the easiest part, what makes them think they will ever retake any? Retaking ground you've already lost requires a lot more effort. If they ran away from people charging at them, how are a few 'advisors' going to convince them to assault an entrenched and determined enemy?
Is an adniinstration a cute way to call them ninnies?
Well... you know, they are your elected representitives...
They represent you.
if you "the people", are venal, hypocritical, lying, thieving, stupid, cheating, trigger-happy ninnies, then I guess the people that represent you, will be too...
Just say'n.
I guess you are not American?
True.
Altho in general, I'm friendly and well disposed to Americans - individually.
But getting more and more alarmed by your Adninnystration, every day.
There is an "American" problem - which you'all are gonna have to solve for yourselves.
Good luck with that.
And hopefully you won't suck the rest of us into a shit-storm in the process.
Ohh look...
some-one down voted my first post.
Which part do you suppose they didn't like?
venal - ?
hypocritical - ?
Stupid - ?
lying - ?
cheating - ?
thieving - ?
trigger happy - ?
I know... :-)
it was the ninnys comment wasn't it...
by the way - is it still slander if it's true???
Do you have something you would like us to emulate, maybe perhaps your fine country.
Which would be?
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Your wonderful country, it was a question. I can wait all night, I'm waiting for "my good friend" Duffy anyways.
Hello nmewn :-)
Did you mean the country I happen to live in/be from...?
As it happens, that would be New Zealand.
And no, not really.
I couldn't say it is necessarily any great paragon to be emulated.
Seeing as how it is a tight member of the Five-Eyes club.
...It's a hard road finding the perfect country.
Altho - we don't seem to have anything like your East coast criminal fraternity, running our country.
Our ninnies are different.
Hello Recision ;-)
Its pretty easy to pick on my government, I do it all the time...lol. Its when others start fucking with MY people, I get a little pissed. Personally (being from the South) we have a long history of confronting the Feds and not all of it revolves around slavery.
We still (unlike "kiwis") despise monarchs.
And you know what I mean ;-)
While definitely not being a monarchist - I do have to say, that our (constitutional) monarchy is generally pretty harmless.
A little gentle inbreeding saps their excessive energies.
So I would probably, on balance, come down of the side of "our" monarchy, in preference to "your" dark overlords... lol
;-)
I've never been one for supporting welfare "queens".
But to each their own ;-)
(It doesn't take much thought, she's living off of you)
We will always have a parasite class.
And I suspect Liz is still cheaper than General Motors, haha. (or any other TBTF)
Like you say - to each their own.
We use our parasite to pre-empt anyone else from climbing to the top of the pecking order.
Call her - our neutral umpire...
I call her (and her family) parasites.
But again, to each their own.
Lie down with dogs and all ;-)
ouch!
Just thought I'd jump in to add the the Maoris were the only indigenous people to defeat the British Empire and their minions in open rebellion.
Mad respect for New Zealanders.
No, nmewn, much of it revolves around trying to prevent the coloureds from getting too uppity.
Fine tradition of fighting for all the wrong reasons, but at least you don't have a figurehead monarch...
cookie?
Ok you fucking dickhead euro, whats on your mind?
Your kind brought slaves here. "Monarchs" had a whole farm system baseball team (as it were) and abandoned them in the islands.
About time you paid some reparations isn't it? ;-)
I am not sure where you could live that you would not get sucked in. I think you are already "in it." I mean nothing hostile by that, just sort of stating what is.
Hi MS :-)
Yes, all too true unfortunately.
If the war mongers don't manage to suck us in, the bankers already have us by the short and curlies.
If the world economy goes tits-up, we are going down that sucking blackhole with everyone else.
p.s. have always enjoyed your comments here. So I guess that makes you one of the Americans I individually like, haha.
We are in a lot of trouble because everyone WILL judge us by our oligarchy, I am afraid. Nice to see you out and posting. Always happy to see an "Oldtimer" like me.
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Politics aside I'd love to kill those Sunni rapists.
Bold move, coming out against mass rape.
I like a fella who's willing to stick his neck out. How do I "friend" you on here?
Contact: US tax payer
https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454/
Yeah, politics aside, I hope these Marines have plenty of ammo to defend themselves if they have to fight their way out. This adninnystration (thanks, MS) probably only allowed sidearms with the Barney Fife load.
Golf diplomacy
Obama lies more than he tells the truth.
I know it is by now a well known and obvious fact, but how sad is that?
I expect to be lied to by the U.S. President.
How far we have fallen.
Sad days for Amerika.
So US Marines will be squaring off against CIA and Mossad-backed mercenaries.
Cute.
Apparently, the US gov and media don't give a fuck about the same atrocities being [and having been continually...] committed in Syria by the "good" foreign jihadi mercs.
The narrative will be its about fighting eeeeevil Muslims again, and the promoted conspiracy theory will be, hey, it's about oil, when of course, it is primarily about smashing and weakening the Muslim states around Israel.... which forsees a need for much more....living space... in the coming years.
Sunnis have no need for any help by anyone to kill Shites. They have been doing for it long time. Now we all know this has nothing to do with Islam or the Koran. It is simply ethnic difficulties.
that is surely true. Doesn't mean Uncle Scam and the Israelis haven't sought to worsen it for their own ends.
Freedom and democracy and the childrens, and such, presumably.
Iraq is and has always been a tar baby, you punch it, you're stuck with it, worse than nam. At least with nam it was possible to leave without horrible consequences following afterwards. With Iraq once it's broke you can't leave without potentially awful consequences for the whole middle east and beyond. Going back in is the only option, only it's not an option because there's no winning in the big muddy from hell. Once 0 plunges the U.S. back into Iraq the end of the Republic will be near at hand. National bankrupcy Soviet style looms.
Not enough oil in Nam to make it worth the re-visit.
plenty of incredibly hot women though.
plenty of incredibly hot women though.
Finally you said something I could agree with. I had thought after 12 weeks it was never going to happen.
SlowBamma doesn't lie anymore than Bush...they just say what they're told to say
Chuck Hagel is no Chas Freeman.
Chaos is a feature, not a bug.
Oh, get over yourself. There's probably dozens or hundreds of others they haven't admitted to or are civilian contractors or carry Guatemalan passports or something, not even counting the secret pop-up air base out in the desert with about five-hundred people wearing foot-condoms.
Paging Paul Brenner. Git 'er done!
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I miss Dick Cheney. Never thought I'd say that.
No matter what you thought of him, you knew where he stood
So no "US troops" how about independent contractors like Academi?
The only sane reaction to an honest look at the world we live in is to drink.
HEAVILY.
Dinosaurs lasted about 160 million years, and humans use the term going the way of the dinosaur, regarding extinction.
Humans have about 159 million to go to do as well.
What are the chances???
Obomba, Obomba...let me clear your "definitions" of non combatant for the rest of the folks...
Just like in Beirut 1983....US Marines were not allowed to "lock and load" their weapons if they are there for "peace keeping"...And probably do not have any "armored" vehicles or tanks to support them like back in Mogadishu....we all know how that went over....I hope those Leathernecks have the gear they need to stay safe, and to wipe out the enemy (if they can identify them)
How quickly the elected momos foget...Yes Obomba, we know the US Marines report directly to you...But tying these US Marines hands is a no-no...you homo.
Hopefully the D-Dogs will "lock n load", and do call in some FA support to do some "shake and bake" on the enemy when they can...
Godspeed DevilDogs!
S/F
Kind of like 'service advisors' at car dealerships. They don't do much 'advising', but are really there to pimp customers into paying for a pile of un-needed services like the 3000 mile oil change.
Maybe they should take their boots off and slip in on their socks to safe Obama's face.
The US would be far better served by just sending Homer Simpson as the military adviser: "And you just point this end at whatever you want dead".
Angels do not touch the ground, boots or not.
Hey Jar Heads. Do your fuckin job and protect the boarder.
Boarder:a person who pays to live and have daily meals at another person's house or at a school. So, are you saying that youd like the USMC to protect a renter?
Jarheads Jail Jackoff
Marines Arrest Bath House
Yeah jarheads! Like 10mm* said! I pay good rent so I don't want nobody fuckin' around in my girlfriend's grandma's house!
* Sorry to hear about the accident bro but don't worry: you'll manage.
Lamestream parrots 'advisers' without question.
The president is mentally unfit to do his job.
Yeah. It's pretty obvious at this point.
Local: "Got any advice?"
Advisor: "Yeah... eat shit and die."
Local: "Allllrighty then!"
Good advice is hard to find these days.
Going to demonstrate how to shoot ISSI members with a higher degree of accuracy.
The debacles in Oilraq and Afpoppystan serve as reminders of why Washington said "It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world,” Thomas Jefferson said “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - entangling alliances with none" and our framers vested in Congress the sole power to declare war.
Apparently, the usurping elephant/jackass sock puppets in our current one-party system think they know better and are confident that We The Sheeple no longer have the intestical fortitude to hang them all for shredding and wiping with the constitution from which they derive their power.
Here! Here! Sir Burt! I'll be using a few of your nouns so don't sue me until I make this gig pay!
I hope none of our marines get "unexpectedly" hanged in the town square.
Cue guys with turbans and beards burning the American flag.
Shit, not you again, said every Sunni, Shiite, Kurd, Christian, and otherwise person in Iraq. You want the oil, take the god damned oil, but, stop bombing and killing our kids.
Are they barefoot?
PC marines, phamplets and everything.
Ahh. I got the plan now. Obama can convert all of our millitary to advisors, toss a gun in their hand so they can demonstrate/advise how to kill, then say that we are no longer occupying nearly every country on Earth. Brilliant.