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Anonymous Releases Police Audio From Day Of Mike Brown Murder

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UPDATE: Ferguson getting SWATified again tonight...


The hackers' group "Anonymous" has released the full audio recordings of the St.Lousi Police Despatch from the night of Mike Brown's murder.




Via Anonymous ( @TheAnonMessage )

These files compiled in this video contains audio of St. Louis police dispatch from the date of August 9th 2014, the day Mike Brown was murdered by a Ferguson PD officer.

We have released these tapes to the public so as they are able to get a sense of the atmosphere the moments before and the hours after Mike Brown was shot.

These raw audio files have been compiled and long quiet moments have been cut down. Time stamps are available within the video.



"be advised officer involved shooting... observation came from the news!"

44min mark in clip -  "all cars, be advised we are switching over to the riot channel. riot A"

More color (Via @ChiefDunbar) (time on clip)

37:32 all cars alert to the scene

27:40 do you want more cars?
29:39 canines en route. still expediting cars
37:32 all cars alert to the scene

27:00 2 more cars
27:14, the crowd is starting to get bad (this is between 12:35am and 1:05am)
27:40 do you want more cars?

23:50 requesting more cars. and tactical cars
25:06 ferguson has canine on scene, do you still want yours?

23:50 requesting more cars. and tactical cars

20:38, car enroute to ferguson
21:55 requesting more cars
22:19 please advise. they are asking other radios too

12:01, the info came from the news. ferguson pd didn't call it in
13:12, accident of not?
15:24 did you arrive?

11:20 officer involved shooting

Here is #FergusonTapes stream of crowd-sourced transcription:


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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:11 | 5089114 Latina Lover
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All is One.  Six is high, five must die:


Time to burn the 'hood down!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:11 | 5089147 Bryan
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That's the first thought I always have when someone is shot by police:  "damn, well this is as good a time as any to loot and pillage!"

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:14 | 5089159 negative rates
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Come and get it. Grade A riot.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:20 | 5089193 redpill
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You police are so corrupt and unfair that I think I'll I'll I'll....trash my neighbor's convenience store who is not a cop and has nothing to do with any of this!  So there!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:22 | 5089202 john39
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this is a bit misleading... Hazelwood is an independent police depart.  St. Louis County is a seperate force, though there is some jurisdictional overlap.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:42 | 5089289 boogerbently
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I'm 60, and always told my 3 sons, growing up, there is only 2 things you ever say to a cop.

Yes sir. OR No sir.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:59 | 5089370 bonderøven-farm ass
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Blind obedience? You've raised slaves, not men.

More appropriately, they should be asking, "Am I under arrest" and/or "Am I free to go".

No less. 
Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:03 | 5089393 NemoDeNovo
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+1,000,000,000,000,000 -- NEVER submit to these policy enforcers, they are NO longer Peace Officers!!!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:07 | 5089412 MrPalladium
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Why do the Tyler's keep refering to this as a "Murder." By all accounts it was no such thing.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:23 | 5089470 roadhazard
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red meat is the ZH menu.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:25 | 5089492 SWRichmond
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Listening now...should I join you and leap to conclusions before all the evidence is in?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:48 | 5089601 MillionDollarBogus_
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Mr, because that's what Tyler wants.

They want to see this situation spin way out of control.

They want to see more mayhem.

They want to see ISIS blow up the Mosul dam.

The more chaos and mayhem, the more the ZH prime directive is served.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:59 | 5089651 BLOTTO
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In order to be a cop you need to have a certain attitude...and usually that attitude is one i don't click with.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:22 | 5090267 chumbawamba
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It used to be you knew the cops in your neighborhood, and they were there to protect you because they lived next door or down the street on on the next block and they had an interest in keeping their community.  They got your cat out of the tree and they kept the punks in line.

Now, cops are just doing a job, there's no connection with the population, and they could give a shit about you.  Hell, they aren't even required to help you, even if you're being raped.

This is what you asked for, America.  And you got it.

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 04:43 | 5091207 dubbleoj
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see our fellow americans getting paid to harass, murder and rob us on a daily basis on behalf of the masters. There are many good cops, but until they stand up against the rest they are part of the problem. there is no service, only revenue.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 12:06 | 5092619 bob_stl
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"Anonymous Releases Audio..." Give me a break. Anonymous didn't "release" this. They may have spliced it, but anyone can get archived copies of police dispatchers all over the country on public websites.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:59 | 5089660 linniepar
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Now I am absolutely convinced they are CIA trying to accelerate the martial law plans.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:49 | 5090148 buyingsterling
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The world is on fire and you want to shoot the messenger. Any propaganda they put out is more than made up for by the content. They do have an agenda - it's called.... ? (Meaningful liberty in an orderly society?)

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:47 | 5090578 ThroxxOfVron
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"They drew first blood!" - John Rambo

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:39 | 5089563 kaiserhoff
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Beat me to it, Palladium.

This Tyler must be clarivoyant in the medium, or not care about the truth.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:54 | 5089940 A Nanny Moose
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Take your pick. There are no accidents when the popo comes knockin heads.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:24 | 5090067 intric8
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I hate a police state as much as the next zhedger, but those people should not riot and loot innocent businesses and endanger other law abiding citizens. Now the cops are forced to go commando. protest all day and night in front of the precinct. Stupid violence and mayem will just invite more authoritarianism from the police. Come on, people.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:50 | 5090358 palmereldritch
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:11 | 5090405 chumbawamba
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Action; reaction.  Who caused the first injury?

What's more unlawful: looting and pillage, or shooting someone dead without cause?

Who threw the first stone?

"It was around 1:40, two o'clock. We were walking down the street, empty street. We were just walking down, minding our business. We're both headed home, and the officer's approaching us, and as he pulled up on the side of us, he didn't say 'freeze,' 'halt,' or nothing like we were committing a crime. He said, 'Get the fuck on the sidewalk!' I told the officer we were not but a minute away from the destination."
"He never once attempted to grab for this officer's weapon."
"The first car I see, I ducked behind for cover because I feared for my life. I'm scared. I don't know what's going on. I don't understand why this officer is shooting his weapon at us."
"My friend stopped running, his hands went immediately in the air and he turned around towards the officer, face-to-face. He started to tell the officer he was unarmed and that you should stop shooting me. Before he can get his second sentence out, the officer fired several more shots into his head and chest areas."
"It was definitely like being shot like an animal. It was almost putting someone execution."

Don't get caught up on the answer, because it's not the right question.

When we're born, we are pure and innocent.  No one is born evil.  I don't believe that.  Somewhere along the way we learn and acquire it.

However, evil doesn't exist.  Evil is merely the absence of good.  The reason there is so much evil in the world is because there is too little good.

Eliminating evil is easy: do something good today, and everyday.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:20 | 5090493 The_Prisoner
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Judging by Obama's and the Cops' reaction, and Anonymous involvement, the government wants this to escalate to justify another rehearsal of Martial Law AKA "Shelter in Place".

Anonymous is a red herring. For me the tell was when just days after a Malaysian hacker stole documents from a UK security contractor server with evidence they were being engaged to stage a chemichal weapons attack in Syria, Anonymous released the "supreme court warheads" video with emotional soundtrack saying they would release information as payback for Aaron Swartz... and so far, this so called information has gone the way of Wikileaks BofA hard drive.

The US empire has always been the Empire of Chaos. It thrived by fomenting chaos abroad. In its death throes, it is only logicel they will use the only play they know to try and extend its life a bit longer.

All you need is love.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:52 | 5089933 sleigher
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Sheriffs (and deputies) are the only lawful law enforcement.  Police are policy enforcers as said.  You do not have to contract with them or the city.  (They never were peace officers.  Only now is their mission changing.)

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:17 | 5090481 chumbawamba
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If that was true then sheriff's deputies would not be enforcing policy.  In California, Government Code sections 26600-26616 specify the duties of the Sheriff.  There is no mention of enforcing codes.  Yet sheriff's deputies in California routinely hand out traffic tickets and perform other silly code enforcement that is supposed to be left up to the policy (police) officers.

Police officers are private security for incorporated municipalities.  It's just like IBM setting up shop in your town and hiring some private goons to police their premises.  They have authority and jurisdiction on IBM property but outside that they are merely private citizens.  It's the same with the city police, employees of a corporation.  So why do the police enforce codes on you if you're not an employee of the city?

Or...are you?

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:24 | 5090688 JeffB
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A lawyer explaines Why you should NEVER talk to the cops.

A policeman concurs... Don't talk to the cops

Yet another lawyer chimes in.



Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:07 | 5089406 Citxmech
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For those who haven't seen it - here is a great lesson on why you NEVER speak to the cops regarding an investigation without representation:

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:51 | 5089619 Eager Beaver
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Good observation on the raising of compliant slaves, agreed on that point! But have to disagree on what you say to the cops, there are three things you say to the cops:


1) Am I being detained officer, or am I free to go? (Used in respond to almost every question they ask, except the two below.)


2) I do not consent to ANY searches. (Used if they ask to see ANYTHING; inside your car, inside your personal belongings, your cell phone, your pockets, your back pack, whatever.)


3) I reserve all of my rights, including the right to remain silent. (If they tell you that you are being detained in answer to question 1 above, and then shut up and say nothing else until you have a lawyer, no matter how tempting.)


The above guidelines are suspended if they shoot or tase you, in that case feel free to scream and writhe in pain.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:20 | 5089752 boogerbently
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I've taught them to understand that in the street, the cops have the advantage.

Any resistance, and you end up like the Ferguson......child.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:44 | 5089898 Penniless Spectator
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I used to subscribe to that view sir, but I can no longer trust the RCMP to ”maintain the right" as their motto purports. Unless it refers to the right wing agenda, which they are fully maintaining.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:59 | 5090400 palmereldritch
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Their motto should be "preserve the freedom" but then again that wouldn't be true as we know who they serve...

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:19 | 5090049 Nobody Important
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But the bastards all go home sometime. That's the time to get even.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:44 | 5089895 TheReplacement
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No sir.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:59 | 5089371 Jlasoon
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Last time I was pulled over I refused to even talk to the officer. Was going 32 in a 25. My wife who was in the passengers seat did all the talking. Officer couldn't figure out why I wasn't talking. 

These cockroaches will shed their uniforms or hang from light posts in the not too distant future. Outside of the black and blue community, does anyone really care about these guys?

"To Protect and Serve" my ass. These douches have been protecting politicians from the public since Peeler and his Metropolitan Police Act of 1829.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:40 | 5089567 Chief KnocAHoma
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Cops have a hard job. Granted some are lazy Barney fife douche bags, but some aren't. I would not do that job for that pay.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:46 | 5089590 SilverIsMoney
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Agree but it's not the laziness that bothers me, I would prefer lazy cops honestly... it's the roid raging supercops that need to go.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:23 | 5089767 Statetheist
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All cops must go as all government must go.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:48 | 5089602 BobPaulson
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Absolutely. They have a hard job. The hardest part of the job is to not get prison guard syndrome and hate everybody. Human brains do not process statistics well, so when you see the bottom 1% of society 90% of the time, you have to work very hard to think they are not a random sample of the entire population.

Right now, the trainers of these people are actually making this worse, not better. That is the main problem.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:38 | 5089858 The Big Ching-aso
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Uh, I think you meant to say they have to work very hard to think they are a random sample, no? Otherwise in context I don't get the gist, logic, whatever.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 19:09 | 5106436 BobPaulson
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Basically saying that if you almost always see criminals, it's hard for your mind to NOT assume everybody is a criminal.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:07 | 5089694 lostintheflood
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how to talk to cops...4 words...i don't answer questions...

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:03 | 5089391 Grumbleduke
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"What's your name, citizen?"

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:26 | 5089788 kaiserhoff
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Barack Hussein Obama, and I gots no birth certificate either.  Can you prove I'm not?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:21 | 5090054 Grumbleduke
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Yes, Sir?

No, Sir!


I don't care, Arnold Schwarzenegger is as american as it gets. Vote him into office, b/c "what difference at this point..."

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:26 | 5089417 SWRichmond
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I told both of our children while they were minors: during any confrontation with school authorities or police the only words I wanted to hear coming out of their mouths were these, and only these, regardless of how they were threatened or offered a chance to talk their way out if only they would 'just tell the truth': "I want to talk to my parents".

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:25 | 5089481 First There Is ...
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You make me sick.....I'm guessing you taught them to be "See Something, Say Something" kind of people, too?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:43 | 5089582 still kicking
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It's called protecting yourself dumbass, you say yes sir no sir and walk away then deal with the shit on your terms instead of mouthing off and getting shot or choked to death.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:02 | 5089669 SWCroaker
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Dealing with the police is always a situation that can get you killed.  You kill them, and you're a cop killer with the weight of the world trying to put you 6' under; they kill you and the "officer involved shooting" is likely to go down in the books as your choice of "suicide by cop".

Being in the right is only of incidental relevance, if assured survival is also in your list of goals.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:33 | 5090298 RafterManFMJ
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Sir? Please.

It's "Officer" and nothing else...why in Hell would you dignify with a "Sir?"

Officer, am I being detained?
Officer, am I free to go?


OTOH, a sure way to have a fun night:

Where are you coming from tonight?
Your mother's house, officer. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:12 | 5090455 NuckingFuts
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I have walked away from a few scrapes with the "yes sir, no sir" bullshit. I was glad to walk and not be charged but it left me feeling small and impotent. I will not choose that path again regardless of the out come. Better to die on my feet then live on my knees.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:41 | 5090324 Abitdodgie
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Cops always try to get you into contract with them (verble) and so when they say do you understand and you say yes , then you have just entered into contract with them , so when asked a question always say " I don't understand the question"

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:19 | 5089740 Pumpkin
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I like, "what is the emergency officer, and how can I help."  And, "that is a personal effect, do you have a warrant?  If not, and you persist, I will comply, under duress, since you are armed."  Renders a ticket inadmissable.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:30 | 5089807 Seek_Truth
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Words of wisdom, indeed.
"A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." - Proverbs 15:1

Let the Internet Tough Guys learn the hard way.

After $30,000+ spent on legal fees, suspended licenses and jail time, they'll learn the free lesson you provided your sons.

In the REAL world of today, you are guilty until proven innocent.

Always give it your utmost effort to avoid cops at all costs, if you can't, then be polite and do not say anything other than "I want to have my Attorney present."

Free advice, and the best you'll get regarding the "law".

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 19:12 | 5094764 Wild tree
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True that Seek_Truth, true that.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:30 | 5089809 tahoeguy
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No response necessary other than silence or talk to my lawyer.

I want nothing from the police other than for them to smack down the crackheads and dirtbags.  White, black, brown, yellow, purple...  If they use bullets, no problem.  Thats what I use when dirtbags beak into my house.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:33 | 5089821 tahoeguy
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Actually, they can open fire on just about anything brown.  Have to thin this illegal population.  Dirtbags go home...

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:17 | 5090033 intric8
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Dealing with cops is simple - be VERY respectful but keep your mouth fucking shut. Being antagonistic with them from the get go wont help your cause at all, especially if you havent done anything wrong.

Let the cops make all the mistakes during procedure, and in the meantime fight your urge to explain your way out of the situation. STFU and sort things out a more advantageous time for yourself.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:32 | 5090097 yogibear
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Ever since since I found out a cop shot a 19 year old in the back and killed him because the cop wanted his girlfriend I lost trust in the police.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 00:11 | 5090791 jerry_theking_lawler
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BB, I know what you mean

1. Use 'tact' kind, courteous and cooperative.

2. If #1 doesn't work, then confront them on their demeanor....sometimes that 'click' them out of the hardcore mentatility

3. If #2 doesn't work, then ask if you are free to go or are being  arrested/fined?

4. No go, then...then be like me..have your lawyers number pogrammed on speed dial.....tell the officer you are calling your lawyer to have the situation clarified as to wether you are being arrested or set free.....(just for info, had to progress all the way down the ladder to this point once...officer got furious, was already in a foul mood and started cussing at me...i put my lawyer on the speaker and ask if she heard the officer. Promptly said yes over the speaker. Officer said so what...she said she was conferencing in the judge and chief at that exact moment. The guy changed immediately and like to have flipped out with apologies). Needless to say I was released immediately and the officer had a conference that night with his superiors....



Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:38 | 5089856 tahoeguy
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Warms my heart to see idiots rape and burn their community down.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:02 | 5090419 palmereldritch
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Methinks they desperately need an organizer

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:28 | 5090281 hesk
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They should have just laid siege to the police HQ not hapless shopkeepers.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:47 | 5089315 kchrisc
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Blacks tend to think like this, but wait until the gun and badge thugs kill the wrong white guy--"...behind every blade of grass."

An American citizen, not US subject.


In addition to the Four Rs, the American people should be compiling a list, call it the Crimes Against the American People Database (CAAP-DB)

 A list of known pol, crat, functionaries (funcs) and bankster criminals in their sphere of influence. Oath violating and treasonous gun and badge thugs, corrupt pols and crats, thieving banksters, etc. should be placed on it. Their names, crimes and positions should be, at a minimum, kept for future reference and trial.

When the DC US finally collapses, these lists can then be used to root out the known criminals that will think that they can hide among their victims--no "Truth and Reconciliation" and no quarter.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:11 | 5089423 Professorlocknload
Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:03 | 5089680 g speed
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:19 | 5089453 p00k1e
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Yea, yea, yea, pussycat.

And as we've been posting about Ebola for the last two weeks, bus load after bus load of illegal aliens have been planted all over the country.  (It's still ongoing). 

That never was going to happen either, huh.

Wait until the school children come home from the first day this year.  LOL  “You wouldn’t believe all the Spanish speakers, 100’s at our school.  The one Latin guy with tattoos was kinda hot.”

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 02:27 | 5091007 Seek_Truth
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If that's the case stop sending your children to that school!

What's more important, your children or your money?

Home school is the answer 'cause public school is a cancer.

Better to live in a trailer where there is love,

Than a mansion with iniquity.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:33 | 5089832 markpower49
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As Tom Kratman says, we must eliminate a few million of the worst progressives now, or if we don't we will need to eliminate many times that later. I hope this Ferguson nonsense turns into civil war.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:54 | 5090168 Government need...
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When they set up the guillotine in the public square, you want to be close enough to see the heads roll, but far enough away to avoid the perception you were assisting. I learned this reading about the French Revolution.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:25 | 5089211 Latina Lover
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Bryan, I also like riots.  It's a good opportunity to get do five finger discount shopping done. Heck , what self respecting would choose to live without a new pair of Michael Jordans?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:27 | 5089220 Bryan
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Yeah, more free stuff when what the gubbermint is giving you just ain't cool enough.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:32 | 5089802 fuu
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Who do you think benefits more, the people who receive welfare, or the corporations who are enriched by it all? All those EBT/SNAP/Rental Assitance/Utility Assistance/Unemployment Insurance funds wind up at Walmart, General Mills, Coca-Cola, Mars, etc. No one beyond the Walton family are hoarding welfare funds and getting rich.  A significant portion of our entire fake economy is managed in this way. The reality of where we would be without that flow is pretty horrible.


"How much profit does Wal-Mart make from public assistance? In one year, nine Wal-MartSupercenters in Massachusetts received more than $33 million in SNAP dollars, more than four times the SNAP money spent at farmers’ markets nationwide. In two years, Wal-Mart received about half of the $1 billion in SNAP expenditures in Oklahoma. Overall, 18 percent of all food benefits money is spent at Wal-Mart. That’s about $14 billion."

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:15 | 5089170 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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I'll say it in ebonics: Yo dis here Brown nigga wuz smok'd by da po-po cuz he looked like uh suspect cuz he wuz black an don't make me pull mah gat! 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:18 | 5089180 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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educasion fo my nigglets is watch out fo the popo

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:25 | 5089210 THX 1178
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why the downvotes? Aint racist. I know white dudes that talk like that.

+1 Would read again.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:26 | 5089218 NotGrokkingIt
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Only racism against Jews is acceptable in fight club.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:46 | 5089301 hedgeless_horseman
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Only racism against Jews is acceptable in fight club.

A false narrative and whining...where do those stereotypes come from?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:50 | 5089332 Rainman
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who knows ? .... personally, I hate all the human races equally.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:03 | 5089387 Hugh G Rection
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Do you understand the distinction between Jews and Zionists?

Banksters stole Palestine under the cover of Judaism.

Let rabbi Weiss sort you out:

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:06 | 5089405 MsCreant
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Nah, there are folks here who would like to see the middle east and all the Muzziez "a sheet of glass."

We are equal opportunity haters. Hate women too.

ZH has a hard time with enforcement. They really do seem to want to let people have freedom of speech. The downside is when they get shut down because the racist stuff is not legal in the country they are hosted in.

I'd rather hear the points of view and undertand the logics than shut down the free speech. I do not feel comfortable sending my black students here to learn up about the economy because of some of the tone of things here, so there is a down side to it.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:25 | 5089484 Professorlocknload
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Ms, with all respect, I too would prefer to see words fly freely, whether I like them or not.

Keeping friends close and enemies closer has some advantage.

But, why would you censor these writings for your Black students?

Even in my military days, I didn't mind hearing who in Black circles thought of me as a "Cracker" or a "Honky" or "Smart ass white boy."

On the contrary, it was good to know where I stood among "those" personality types. Helped me decide who to hang out with, and who to put on my watch list.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:38 | 5089556 MsCreant
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You make a very valid point. I am ashamed to say the truth: I am worried my black students will think "I" harbor the feelings towards them that others on this site do. I don't want to have to explain it. I sent a black student here and indeed he was stunned at the racism. I felt bad trying to explain, defensive. So I don't do it, or when I do it, I warn them the material can be racist and they need to sort out the wheat from the chaff. But I won't assign the students stuff to read here, and I really, really, should.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:57 | 5089645 Professorlocknload
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May I suggest you do it, with those very thoughts in mind, that a hand full of loose canons does not a flotilla make?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:00 | 5089668 UselessEater
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I also imagine you run the risk of a parent complaining about you if their child showed them some of the comments.

I did find your comments interesting as I hadn't thought of ZH as a resource for high school teachers. It is awesome to learn that we have teachers posting, hopefully you can share with other teachers.

Its amazing how subtly pervasive censorship is today.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:22 | 5089761 g speed
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Ms C---You must make a differentiation between "Politicaly Incorrect" speach and real racism-- PIs with a heathy dose of sarcasm is what is known as dark commedy.    Years ago in Chicago, publicly spoken four letter words equaled jail time -- when Lenny Bruce was in town--- The Chicago Police wanted to protect us from ?? I could never figure that out.

Maybe a good dose of ZH might let some of your black students take a peak in their own hearts at what they believe and feel-- maybe a little race related non PC thoughts of their own??? I can't think of one person on this planet who doesn't hate and love a lot.---stop trying to control ---lighten up---

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:17 | 5089720 AL_SWEARENGEN

Welcome to fucking fight club.  Your. feelings might get hurt.  


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:40 | 5089862 fuu
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A guy who came to Fight Club for the first time, his ass was a wad of cookie dough. After a few weeks, he was carved out of wood.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:15 | 5090023 Harbanger
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It once was fight club, now it's mostly a circle jerk with very little disagreement.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:50 | 5090154 Iam_Silverman
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"now it's mostly a circle jerk with very little disagreement."

Yup, I agree.  Oh wait, no I disagree!  See, you're right, or are you wrong?

Damn, how do you respond to a statement like that?

At least it's not a question of math.  My stupid was exposed on a math post yesterday....

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:31 | 5090699 UselessEater
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The ZH dilemma is we have real information that is not easy to share because many post messages that are hard to share with we want the truth to be exposed to everyone? Or do we want the truth to be exposed to a smaller circle that can like it or lump it with respect to at times explicit comments?

I do not advocate censorship, but I am also aware the nature of some comments can limit the ability of certain readers to promote the articles and web site. Posters are banned for reasons I do not grasp, yet if I want to send my young niece an article I have to check there are no extreme sex act comments.

Some of us ZHrs have a dilemma IMO; we want more to read and learn most especially because the poster comments are often more informative than the articles. We also despise PC control and accept most are here for that freedom.



Thu, 08/14/2014 - 17:41 | 5094339 Postal
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When the collapse comes, your neice will have a lot more to worry about than crude words on a computer screen.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:17 | 5089731 SWCroaker
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MsC - you're doing just fine.   While you can hope others find/learn resilience if they don't already have it, using your authority as a teacher to effectively force encounters with the crude & rude of ZH could easily step over one's moral code.

I send a good bit of the content here to my niece; but almost all of it is from the original source (links often available), NOT just a link to the ZH copy.  She knows of this site, and understands lots of what comes her way is found here first, but while I'm confident in my own thick skin, I don't feel I have the right to insist she be that way from any choice but her own.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:15 | 5090026 Penniless Spectator
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I am shocked by how much more racist it seems to be getting here. 3 years ago when I started reading here it wasn't nearly as bad. Now it reads like GLP.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:53 | 5090174 Iam_Silverman
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"3 years ago when I started reading here it wasn't nearly as bad."

That's because back then the "Tylers" tended to stick more towards revealing actual financial shenanigans and dissecting government reports and company 10K filings.  Today it is a more like a Drudge Report rehash - but with titties and ass crack avatars.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:07 | 5089994 Harbanger
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MsCreant, if you're really a teacher, especially in the PS system you're already in deep shit.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:24 | 5090271 MsCreant
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University Professor. I am in deep shit, in many ways. I still make my stand here.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:36 | 5090548 HardAssets
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For students wanting to learn about economics & freedom without the dumbazz comments by some racists types, you might want to direct them to

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 01:20 | 5090929 UselessEater
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Yes!!! Its an interesting thoughtful site and very clean and mature; its good for sharing with all peeps.

Good pointer Hard Assets.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:09 | 5089980 Harbanger
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@ proflocknload  "...Helped me decide who to hang out with, and who to put on my watch list."

Hmm, What if the reason for allowing people to talk shit freely and almost instigate it is for exactly that reason?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 17:47 | 5094377 Postal
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...there are folks here who would like to see the middle east and all the Muzziez "a sheet of glass."

What's wrong with that? Nuke 'em. Might solve a few problems. And my Hailburton boys won't have to slosh around in wet sand.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:28 | 5089227 Latina Lover
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Probably because listening to  Ebonics hurts the ears of most folk, and reading EBO burns our eyeballs, LOL. Only in the USA is such degradation of the english language tolerated.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:26 | 5089500 knukles
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I say, old bean, spot of buggery at tea?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:31 | 5089247 Quus Ant
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You would read that again?  Did you miss something the first time?  Does it get better over time?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:55 | 5090178 Government need...
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Downvotes = Fedcoat psyops.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:00 | 5089380 Freddie
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Black Univ of Mich football player sucker punches white student for no reason.  More knockout games.  This happened yesterday in Ann Arbor.  Watch the school cover it up.  Video at link.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:25 | 5089495 p00k1e
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The post a few up said white folks … -"...behind every blade of grass."

A2 has grass.  Hmmm…. How weird. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:32 | 5089818 g speed
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well Ms C--why don't cha link that to your class of blacks--then tell um whitey loves um cause they're black and beautiful and sooo deserving ---just saying--

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:23 | 5090501 palmereldritch
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Wow.  Talk about play action. The perp's associate should be charged too IMO...looking at the tape he totally tees up the mark for the punch.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:42 | 5089575 Fuku Ben
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Righteous post man

Keep your eyes to the skies

This is Dahboo7

Peace out

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:27 | 5089224 Buckaroo Banzai
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Samuel L. Bronkowitz presents a hellish inferno of unrelenting desire. While she burned the ghetto to the ground, he kindled the Sabbath candles.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:52 | 5089343 JLee2027
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Nice pair of Buzunga's a minute in gives you a green.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:31 | 5089529 BeerMe
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They've burned them down before.  Not much business has returned to their neighborhoods since.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:01 | 5089673 junction
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"29:39 canines en route."

What, the police don't have horses they also could send?  Pigs, dogs and maybe also horses.  The Ferguson PD can change its name to the Ferguson Zoo. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:10 | 5089681 freeasabee1
Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:08 | 5089119 Heyoka
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When is the FHRITP Guy going to punk Anonymous?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:09 | 5089128 Omen IV
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EMS was called for Gardner on SI but she did nothing for victim - it appears from the video on orders - dead men tell no tales looks like same here

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:34 | 5089252 krispkritter
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I watched some vids online that showed Brown lying in the street, completely unaided/untouched for more than 10 minutes and the background was full of comments as to why there was no EMS or any other presence other than cops 50 feet away.  None of the PD lifted a finger, except the one on the trigger.  

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:17 | 5089447 NemoDeNovo
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I am NOT Advocating this, but......  Until the police are reigned in and a whole lot of these criminal are either hung and or imprisoned for a LONG time, they will not get any respect, nor do they deserve it at this point. 

We need more PEACE Officers, and not police officers, if you don't know the difference then educate yourselves, search engines are your friend here.


Ignorance may be bliss, but in the age of information Ignorance is a CHOICE!!!!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:04 | 5089686 Postal
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Like that's gonna happen. The only reason 9/11 happened at all was because the gov't removed our 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms. Of course, they didn't actually acknowledge this fact and change course. They just did more of what caused the problem in the first place.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:11 | 5089136 TrustWho
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Oh SHIT!!!!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:10 | 5089137 souljaboy
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They should not have cut out anything. Once something is cut, you'll be accused of cutting the most important stuff.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:11 | 5089138 william114085
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Africkin Americans 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:10 | 5089139 Impoverished Ps...
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If you like your Helter Skelter you can keep your Helter Skelter...


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:10 | 5089141 TeamDepends
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All it takes is a single spark, a poorly chosen word, looking at someone the wrong way, EBTs shut off... Coming to a theater near you.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:27 | 5089226 NotGrokkingIt
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...Obama not getting reelected...

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:46 | 5089309 cougar_w
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You didn't mention "shooting to death an unarmed man". Why not?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:30 | 5089459 MsCreant
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I am wondering about the same damn thing reading these comments. These are the militarized police that we on ZH are freaking out about. When the cops beat down a mentally unstable woman a while ago, most here were quick to see that as the bullshit it was. A young black man? Not so much.

It isn't about race. It is about cop culture going horribly wrong and us becoming ever so gradually used to it. Sort of just how it is, they shoot some folks unarmed, sometimes.

I saw an interview with a young black man who was making some comments to his own about these events. Wish I could find it to link to it, but he was really sensible. He was spelling it out that it was not about race but about how the police had become militarized against the police. He pointed out that some of the crap his own were up to was foolish. He also asked us to consider how powerless and angry folks felt. It burns over time, and then blows up.

Reaserch shows he is correct. In disasters the only time you see looting or rioting is in areas where perceived injustices have been going on for a while. In an are where this is not the case, no looting or rioting.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:31 | 5089518 p00k1e
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Drudge syas a retarded American was shot in LA just the other day, Monday:


"Family members identified the man as 24-year-old Ezell Ford, who they described as "mentally challenged." His mother, Tritobia Ford, told KTLA her son was complying with officers' orders, and that the shooting was unjustified.

Her son, she said, was lying on the ground Monday night when he was shot in the back. He later died at an area hospital."

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:32 | 5089533 Professorlocknload
Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:43 | 5089584 cougar_w
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The cops around where I live will kill you for any reason at all, including no reason. They shoot unarmed people in the back, they killed a homeless guy "for talking loud" and killed a demented housewife in her kitchen while she was peeling vegetables with a paring knife. Over the last few years it's become transparently obvious, you need to stay the fuck away from the cowboys around here, their training is for shit and they can kill you on the spot and walk away from it, no questions of any kind ever asked.

Hell, what am I saying. Fuckers shoot you in the back and then get a months-long paid administrative leave, for fuck's sake.

Yeah I'm a little mad. My dad was a small-town cop for 14 years, and then trained cops for 20 years after that, so I know a lot about cops and their training and what they are supposed to be doing out there and the cops these days are becoming a bunch of gangsters, if you ask me.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:33 | 5089762 konputa
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It'll come as a surprise when the citizens start taking unprovoked shots on cops, won't it? The landscape changes when it's upon us.

The Roid Rangers have it coming.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:29 | 5090077 seek
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A city near me had a single cop shoot 7 people in 7 different incidents, killing 6 of them. All were labeled justified, including shooting an unarmed father holding his kid. He was allowed to retire after 12 years with the department after #7.

This is the richest, whitest city in Arizona (Scottsdale) with very low crime -- and for at least one (and possibly more) year 100% of all officer involved shootings were done by this single officer.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:10 | 5089705 Postal
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Exactly. I live near there (about 15 miles away), and I was surprised at the riots as the area--as far as I can tell--doesn't have the racial problems of other cities. It's moving from being about race to an issue of power.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:11 | 5089142 suteibu
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Don't worry, the American government never lets a crisis go to waste.  Time to drive yet another racial wedge into the nation.  Good times, man...good times.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:31 | 5089241 CH1
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Yup, time to drive terrified white folks into the arms of "Law and Order."


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:06 | 5089401 putaipan
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picking up on you two guys and responding to all the othere......


my first trip to new york circa 1979 visiting college buddies ( you know the kind- park ave. diggs withfamily portaits by dianne arbus....) i met my first bourgoise radical. he pretty confidently described the coming 'revolution' . the capstone was black street violence, yes helter skelter. the impact of his practiced script was strong. the kid had been coached, the script was written by someone else. now i'm sure this kid, given his lot in life probably did a full jerry rubin and michael milikined us all in the eighties, but that's where he was in 1979. and again the vibe was strong with this one- he had the secret underwear and knew the plan. only a lowly jacobian, but privvy to the intimate company of robspiere no doubt.


so. what i am sayin'  is all of the cracker ass coments above fit right into the plan jus' fine.... you're as programed for what's coming as the free shit army you sure you are so much better than. get real. get in the street and try to hip one of them who the common enemy is or you're just as bamboozled/hoodwinked as they are.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:58 | 5089654 MsCreant
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Bravo and amen.

They love this shit. I have neighbors who say they don't want it but it is inevitable. The programming is staggering. We don't need a stinking race war, we need to drag a few fuckers out into the street by the ears, away from their mansions and armed guards, and have some "war" with them. Trying the Constitution and actual law enforcement on for size would be a real plus.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:12 | 5089713 Postal
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Trying the Constitution and actual law enforcement on for size would be a real plus.

You terrorist.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:34 | 5090541 MsCreant
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:34 | 5089537 p00k1e
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Good point. 


If the Ferguson Coup used firearms, that’d be a good reason to ban all firearms.

What’s a dead precinct of cops Vs a nation disarmed to those with an agenda? 


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:11 | 5089146 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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PoPo doin target practice on real targets! 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:15 | 5089173 Rainman
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They be tired of X-box !

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:18 | 5089185 Gold Eyed Cat
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And puppies.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:26 | 5089214 Agent P
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LOL - I thought you'd be in favor of this. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:49 | 5089328 max2205
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MO is a shithole....

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:02 | 5089677 MsCreant
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If the cat is there first, and then a puppy is added later, many times the puppy will grow to be the cat's sub. Often the big breeds, Saint Bernard, Mastiffs, are big suckers for little kittens. Done well, it can be made to work.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:47 | 5089314 cougar_w
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It starts with puppies, usually. When they get that part down they become cops.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:11 | 5089148 trader1
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that cop knew he fucked up, and he called in for reinforcements.


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