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Ebola Control Goes 'Medieval': From Patient Zero To Pandemic In 7 Months

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A report in The New England Journal of Medicine traces the spread of the recent Ebola outbreak from Gueckedou, Guinea, to nations worldwide. As The NY Times reports, West African governments have gone 'medieval' as they have revived a disease-fighting tactic not used in nearly a century: the “cordon sanitaire,” in which a line is drawn around the infected area and no one is allowed out. And most worryingly, Reuters reports that a nurse who had close contact with a Liberian Ebola patient skipped quarantine in Lagos and went to her home in the eastern city of Enugu, where she made contact with 20 other people.


As NY Times reports,

Cordons, common in the medieval era of the Black Death, have not been seen since the border between Poland and Russia was closed in 1918 to stop typhus from spreading west.


The phrase cordon sanitaire, or sanitary barrier, appears to date from 1821, when France sent 30,000 troops into the Pyrenees to stop a lethal fever raging in Spain from crossing the border.


Plans for the new cordon were announced on Aug. 1 at an emergency meeting in Conakry, Guinea, of the Mano River Union, a regional association of Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, the three countries hardest hit by Ebola, according to Agence France-Presse. The plan was to isolate a triangular area where the three countries meet, separated only by porous borders, and where 70 percent of the cases known at that time had been found.




“It might work,” said Dr. Martin S. Cetron, the disease center’s chief quarantine expert. “But it has a lot of potential to go poorly if it’s not done with an ethical approach. Just letting the disease burn out and considering that the price of controlling it — we don’t live in that era anymore. And as soon as cases are under control, one should dial back the restrictions.”

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But here is how it started...


read more here...

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But, as Reuters reports, containment is a problem:

A nurse who had close contact with a Liberian Ebola patient skipped quarantine in Lagos and went to her home in the eastern city of Enugu, where she made contact with 20 other people, the government said on Wednesday.


Information Minister Labaran Maku said the nurse, herself a suspected case, and her 20 contacts were all under surveillance in Enugu, bringing the total number being watched in Nigeria to 189.


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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 13:58 | 5088090 Infinite QE
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And where are Bill and Melinda?


Have they made any comment on this?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:02 | 5088112 hedgeless_horseman
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Wake me when they stop having unprotected sex in West Africa.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:03 | 5088116 Publicus
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The troops will be infected as well, they are not wearing spacesuits.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:05 | 5088128 Groundhog Day
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NLNK some genetic biotech will be testing a vaccinne on guinea pigs....i mean on africans in 2 weeks

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:07 | 5088137 Herd Redirectio...
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Funny story, Guinea pigs don't produce Vitamin C.

"Just letting the disease burn out and considering that the price of controlling it — we don’t live in that era anymore."

Never go full retard, Mr Scientist.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:10 | 5088154 MalteseFalcon
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No cordon sanitaire in the  air!!  Keep 'em flying, baby!!!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:45 | 5088314 knukles
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A "corodon sanitare" is not Medieval.  It's simply an effective means by which to stop the pandemic from spreading that was used centuries ago and should be used now as it's the only thing that has or will work.
That's like saying drinking water is medieval.
You want medieval?  Try the shite passed off as science in today's educational systems.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:14 | 5088497 A L I E N
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Maybe people possess some form of premonition with all the zombie apocalypse thoughts/movies since ebola seems like it could make that scenario a reality..

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:08 | 5088793 Vampyroteuthis ...
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These countries can not even feed their own population let alone cordon off an area. This article is entertaining.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:12 | 5088823 bob_stl
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If they hadn't brought all of the sick people together, the disease would have burnt itself out by now.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:34 | 5088932 Socratic Dog
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This whole story sounds like it's describing "quarantine" to me.  Medieval?  It's the single most effective method of limiting infectious disease spread ever conceived.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:17 | 5090243 mjcOH1
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"The troops will be infected as well, they are not wearing spacesuits."

But they do have full metal jackets.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:12 | 5088480 Zadok
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Newtonian vs. Quantum physics

Circa 1500 vs 1900's...

Can we move into the 21st century before it expires please?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:02 | 5088768 knukles
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Zadok!  Spot on!  Newtonian assumptions (gravity) carried over into Einstein's works, excluding the electro-magnetic force, are, essentially, Medieval!
Taking stuff even a step further, Lanza's new inter-disciplinarian interpretations of things quantum, in conjunction with Thornhill and Talbott take us into a new and ultra modern view which relies on little insofar as assumptions and fairy tale explanations are concerned.

The Quantum extended ever so claenly to the very Cosmos!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:29 | 5090284 Zadok
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Yes, so very much agreed. It rather amazes me to that when I wrapped my mind around those concepts, re-examined my perspectives, and consciously opened my consciousness (yes, intended) that the Word of God made so much more sense. It just has so little to do with what people who claim to speak for God say it does.

Consider these from the perspective of quantum (and new variations et al) physics. Does it not speak to the nature of the universe?

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 

Faith being the union and manifestation of thought, emotion, feeling, and ultimately the physical abstraction often referred to as the 'real world' that isnt so real after all.

Thanks for the thought exercise...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 17:46 | 5094374 UnpatrioticHoarder
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The EU rocks! Electric Universe, that is. Google Thunderbolts Project. It will blow your fucking mind

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:25 | 5088564 Miffed Microbio...
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" It might work"

Just blew my lunch out my nose laughing. A few million medieval skeletons in mass graves may differ with that Pollyanna prediction.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:07 | 5088789 knukles
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Dontcha just love it?  "might work"
Lordie, Lordie, Lordie.

In the absence of a better plan, why not employ the one that's so far been seen to be the one that works best?

And that "might" is coming form an educated "man of science"
Or maybe that's the problem.
Today's men of science have no room for the medieval.
Hence should be casting Newton and Einstein aside in favor of Bohr, Lanza and Thorhill & Talbott.

But then again ....

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:52 | 5089028 Parrotile
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In our macroscopic environment Newtonian physics works just fine (and will continue to work just fine).

"Better Plan"?? Wonder just how long before some bright spark decides that incineration works well.

How do you "incinerate" a city city the size of Lagos? I believe all the "Nuclear Powers" have a large collection of "just the right devices".

But don't worry - the "Cream of Society" will remain well protected. Us members of the "Skimmed Milk Set"? Maybe not so much.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:24 | 5090068 mjcOH1
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"" It might work"

Just blew my lunch out my nose laughing. A few million medieval skeletons in mass graves may differ with that Pollyanna prediction.



Napalm - better living through modern chemistry.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:31 | 5090525 Miffed Microbio...
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Ok, please stop. Now I'm trying to quell hysterical laughter and trying to scrape up the last few shreds of my sanity and dignity strewn on the floor. I'm about ready to come to the conclusion if this virus gets any traction, we are just fucked. After pouring over 35 Ebola technical articles on pathogenesis, cell surface protein shielding, ineffective innate inflammatory response, ZMAPP... It's hopeless. This virus is just too pathogenetic. And here I was shaking in my boots afraid of a novel coronavirus or an H5N1 outbreak. Silly me.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:12 | 5088157 power steering
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The disease is spread through the sharing of our precious bodily fluids and undercooked fruit bat

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:13 | 5088179 lakecity55
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Fruit Bats 50% off!

Pre-cooked in microwave bags!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:27 | 5088242 CheapBastard
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I just cancelled my 'Bat of The Month" club membership and hope they didn't send August's selection, Chef Ogunro's Late Summer favorite, "Sucker-Footed Bat" yet. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:11 | 5088322 power steering
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No wonder business at El Fruit Bat Loco Resturant has been so slow

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:18 | 5088203 Dr. Richard Head
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If that is indeed the case could someone explain why the health workers, who are covered head to toe in protective gear, are coming down with this?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:36 | 5088270 walküre
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Because not all have the space suits

You think those dudes about 10 feet away are safe?

There are too many of them and they have no sanitation. Not much common sense to keep themselves clean or live clean either.

If Ebola was carried by flies, this thing would be a real problem.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:13 | 5088482 Four chan
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according to cdc you have to lick an ebola victom to get ebola.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:02 | 5088767 7.62x54r
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Or have sex with one. 50 days of possible contagion, even if you survive.

Africa may be doomed.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:55 | 5089044 RafterManFMJ
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Ah Africa, the White Man's Burden.

In other news imports of 16th century peasants from Gabon and Somalia are up 387 percent.

Because reasons.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:31 | 5088603 Jena
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Also this:  

No MSF* worker has ever died from Ebola. But in Kenema, five hours from Kailahun along a pothole-infested road, more than 20 hospital workers have died from Ebola since May 25, when the Sierra Leone outbreak was declared. Among them was Dr. Sheik Humarr Khan, the country’s top expert on viral hemorrhagic fevers.

Chenard went to Kenema to help identify what went wrong. “It’s the worst place I’ve seen as an Ebola treatment centre,” says the 32-year-old Frenchman, a logistician who specializes in water and sanitation. “Take everything that you want to avoid in a treatment centre — and you are in Kenema.”

There was blood on the walls, starving patients and hygienists using water that was “brown like mud.” Health workers moved from high-risk to low-risk areas without changing clothes; “you never knew who was next to you,” Chenard says. “It could be a patient, suspected or confirmed … it could be hospital personnel.”

He recommended the hospital hire at least 46 more staff to support infection control and sanitation in its isolation ward. When he visited, there were only three.

“They don’t have the means to work properly,” he says. “It’s not like they do not try. They really try their best. But there are not enough numbers and there are not enough skills.”

There's more, particularly about the lack of people available to bury the dead. Also interesting the effort to trace contacts.

*Medicin san Frontiere

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:25 | 5088566 p00k1e
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The simplest answers, Earthlings are being lied too. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:00 | 5088398 Key-Rick
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I believe that's called "Chicken of the Cave" now. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:58 | 5089058 RafterManFMJ
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...and I threw away the receipt for that pallet of Cave Chicken Helper I bought.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:28 | 5088588 p00k1e
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The marijuana growers use bat guano. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 19:10 | 5089708 atomp
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Listen, Colonel Bat Guano, if that is your real name...

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:05 | 5088130 Herd Redirectio...
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Please.  You get within 100 yards of the troops, and they will stop your 'advance'.  And thats putting it mildly.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:08 | 5088148 Publicus
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Soldiers check the credentials and take the temperatures of those trying to go in or out


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:17 | 5088190 Herd Redirectio...
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Well, then, I forsee a conversation taking place a few weeks/months from now:

"We'll have to nuke the site from orbit.  Its the only way to be sure."

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:26 | 5088238 funthea
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+1 for the "Aliens" quote.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:18 | 5088199 Citxmech
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Or, more likely:  "soldiers are supposed to check credentials and take temperatures of those trying to go in or out."

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:43 | 5088302 Badabing
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You are correct, temperature will be taken anally with an AK47

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:19 | 5088869 Pure Evil
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Obama's elephant ears just perked up.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:30 | 5088922 dickizinya
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That would be 'rectally'.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:41 | 5088967 Badabing
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I guess dickizinya would know.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 22:31 | 5090529 dizzyfingers
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"Or, more likely:  soldiers are supposed to check credentials and take temperatures of those trying to go in or out."

Use a new thermometer for each person, please.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:49 | 5088703 Bemused Observer
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What, the African troops? The ones who have tribal ties, and are related to, many of the people in the area? Maybe they'll stop YOUR advance, but Uncle Amadu is getting through, Ebola or not.

A lot of those folks, soldiers included, think Ebola is being spread by the West, and the doctors they send. And they don't trust their own governments either.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:02 | 5089086 RafterManFMJ
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Yea, a bunch of Africans, who literally think raping 9 month old babies will cure Aids, who butcher 'witches' that they accuse of stealing their penises, are going to follow any protocols - at all.

And African soldiers discipline and training are legendary - they make the SS look like a spastic rabble.

What a dance macabre.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:49 | 5088704 Spigot
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The social situation in western Africa is worse than you can imagine. Even supposedly "educated people" there are so enmeshed with the social matrix they can't operate rationally. The idea that troops at certain road check points can stop the transit of people, let alone detect infected people, AND not be infected, AND not pass on the infection to those they examine is beyond absurd. The only cordon that can be effective is to isolate western africa via an air and sea blockade which prevents outbound transit of people and anything that can not be sterilized.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:29 | 5088912 Herd Redirectio...
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I've checked Nigerian online forums, to 'take the regional pulse', if you will, and the spam they post....

Their spam reads: "Join the powerful Illuminati... Calll 002 499 696"

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 18:39 | 5089557 TMLutas
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Is west African marksmanship that bad? If you're more than 10 yards out, no transmission. That they're not mentioning shoot to kill orders doesn't mean that's off the table. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:16 | 5088188 1stepcloser
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well get every african married ASAP. That will stop sex in totality LOL

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:29 | 5088253 Dr. Richard Head
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Sex in marriage turns to hallway sex - the act of passing each other in the hallway and saying "Fuck you!"

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:03 | 5088115 Publicus
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:33 | 5088617 Frank N. Beans
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Excellent point

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:05 | 5088127 Bunghole
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Have they made any comment on this?


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:39 | 5088290 Groundhog Day
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That is the most perfect ass i've ever seen.  +1 for the avatar

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:05 | 5088129 -.-
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Why, they are collecting dividends, my friend.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:06 | 5088132 slaughterer
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Disease always spreads irrational fear and distracts people away from the malign activities of the world political class. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:10 | 5088153 Bloppy
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Bill and Melinda probably more interested in hitting the Dem fundraising circuit while Obama plays more golf.

Just in: Hollywood backing Obama's Dem candidates bigger than ever this year with a $$$ avalanche:

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:10 | 5088162 Oquities
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the Gates family is in isolation on a huge yacht right now, prolly all vaccined up.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:55 | 5088730 JRobby
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destination: paraguay

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:11 | 5088166 lakecity55
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"Barf! Barf!"

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:12 | 5088174 Freddie
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Cooking up more virsues.  The NWO and China need those natural resources in Africa.  They just need to get rid of those pesky Africans.  Ebola is the NWO elites and zio's plan to solve that problem.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:00 | 5088097 Tenshin Headache
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Anyone who thinks this outbreak will not disturb world trade is not paying attention.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:15 | 5088184 Freddie
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Fake crisis.  The USA-Obama has wide open borders.  If ebola were real, the borders would not be wide open.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:26 | 5088235 SilverRhino
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I see you're that special kind of stupid called idealistic.  

You are operating / thinking on the premise that TPTB have the best interests of the USA at heart.   THEY DON'T

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:14 | 5088474 PRO.223
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I think that might have been sarc/

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:31 | 5088598 MsCreant
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Big time. Freddie is always complaining about those borders and imigration policy.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:49 | 5088698 mvsjcl
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I thought Freddie's raison d'être is to bash the Hollywood-Information Complex (HIC).

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:39 | 5090122 Matt
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Speaking of Hollywood, World War Z (book not movie).

Redeker plan. send people and supplies to a honey pot location - say, have one or more experimental treatments for the disease in America. People flock there. Meanwhile, the people actually selected to be saved are sent to a seperate location.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:31 | 5088599 MsCreant
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:29 | 5088252 Ms. Erable
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Naive. The USA-Usurper will keep the borders open because they only give a shit about keeping themselves and their masters rich, safe, and in power.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:02 | 5088104 BandGap
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:32 | 5088614 MsCreant
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:02 | 5088107 lesterbegood
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Another 'fear & distraction = separation' psyop. More 'wagging the dog'.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:03 | 5088118 disabledvet
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This is my view.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:13 | 5088176 random999
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Yup.. if its out of control, then why does it seem its under control?

Its been found all over the world on people who had been in africa. However  it seems it didnt spread any further. If it was extremly contagious thousands of europeans, americans and asians should  have been infected by now.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:18 | 5088200 Herd Redirectio...
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Because the incubation period is about 21 days, and those 'Patient Zero's outside Africa arrived less than 21 days ago.  Meaning, it is likely still incubating, in any who were infected.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:38 | 5088288 walküre
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Ebola has been around for months and travelers have arrived back from Africa longer than 21 days across Europe and North America. It's not as contagious as you think. Unless you're in close contact.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:04 | 5088435 Seek_Truth
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Ebola is only contagious up to 3 feet. Once you are further than 3 feet away from an infectious source, even, say 3 feet 1 inch away, you simply can't get Ebola.

Rattlesnakes are the same- can only get bit if you're within 3 feet.

Therefore, Ebola is just like a rattlesnake.

Remember that, for your safety.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:38 | 5088645 Miffed Microbio...
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I love your medieval!

- Tell me, what do you do with witches?
- Burn them!
- And what do you burn, apart from witches?
- More witches! - Wood!
- So why do witches burn?
- 'Cause they're made of wood? - Good!
- How do we tell if she is made of wood? - Build a bridge out of her.
- But can you not also make bridges out of stone?
- Oh, yeah.
- Does wood sink in water?
- No, it floats. - Throw her into the pond!
- What also floats in water?
- Bread. - Apples.
- Very small rocks. - Cider! Great gravy.
- Cherries. Mud. - Churches.
- Lead. - A duck!
- Exactly.
- So, logically--
- If she weighs the same as a duck...
- she's made of wood.
- And therefore?
- A witch!
- A duck! A duck! - Here's a duck.
- We shaIl use my largest scales.

Whenever I'm confused I say fuck science and look to Monty Python.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:24 | 5088876 Seek_Truth
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Miffed! ; )


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:19 | 5088208 Citxmech
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It's really too soon to say for sure.  Give it three months or so, and we should be able to evaluate things a bit better.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:02 | 5088108 disabledvet
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Meh. "Everything gives you cancer. There's no cure, there's no answer."

Not saying a cure isn't a bad thing...same thing goes for Ebola of course...didn't take that doctor dude long to get better though and I've heard of no outbreak in Kentucky or Atlanta.

If we had an Ebola outbreak in the USA I think we would notice.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:21 | 5088216 forwardho
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Only if you knew the person who just... dissapeared.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:03 | 5088113 q99x2
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Hamas is going to be strapping Africans onto thier rockets in no time bitchez.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:05 | 5088121 hedgeless_horseman
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Suicide barfers.  You heard it from me first.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:31 | 5088267 Citxmech
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Keeps reminding me of that scene from "The Invastion" where the caterers are all puking in the soup at the convention.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:37 | 5088639 MsCreant
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When it hit the US, watch out.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:18 | 5088204 Urban Redneck
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My money would be on the other bushmeat disease - Crimean Fever.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:44 | 5088307 Kirk2NCC1701
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> Jihadist Pukes.
> Unholy Vomiters.
> Projectile Vomiter Army.
> iPuke on Kew. (Kew sounds like Que. But it could also be a fat finger typo for another letter).

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:07 | 5088449 Badabing
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"Hamas is going to be strapping Africans onto thier rockets in no time bitchez."
Does that make Ebola airborne?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:03 | 5088114 Bangin7GramRocks
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This totally sucks for sure! Like, I haven't tongue kissed an African in like 4 weeks. I'm like way over this already.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:04 | 5088126 schatzi
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Pandemic... get a grip. Yeah, it's bad in central Africa and not because of Ebola. AIDS and malaria are the nasty ones. Malaria alone kills more than a million every year.


Gods, this place is as sensationalist as the Daily Mail or its national equivalents.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:09 | 5088146 jcaz
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...Yep-  silly New England Journal of Medicine-  what do they know?   We have the brainpower of Schatzi,  we're WAAAAY betterer......

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 03:44 | 5091138 o2sd
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The definition of a pandemic is 10% of the population infected. An epidemic is 5%. Have 10% of Liberians contracted Ebola?


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:10 | 5088151 taraxias
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“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.” - Al Bartlett 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:35 | 5088278 schatzi
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Now that is truly funny. A simple mathematical function used to explain a phenomena that is influenced by a billion variables and unknowns. If life would be that simple.


Why is it you lot make such a fuss about a virus that has nearly a zero % fatality record when treated in the west? The virus is deadly to central Africans because they lack the medical infrastructure to deal with the symptoms. For every ebola death this year, a 1000 people died of malaria. 1:1000 (roughly).


Is it some kind of macabre fascination with anything that - with a lot of imagination, could be construed to cause some kind of Armageddon? The longer you wait for it, the less you have of your own short life.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:26 | 5088761 Things that go bump
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Three that we know of have been treated in the west and one died. That gives us a 33%+ mortality rate in a very small sampling of privileged persons who received the utmost in medical support. How long do you suppose it would take to overwhelm the medical infrastructure if there were many cases and more showing up every day? How long would medical staff remain at work after the protective equipment ran out and they saw their colleagues starting to drop like flies? After all, there are only so many isolation beds, ICU beds, ventilators, etc. What do you suppose the mortality rate would be if there were too many patients for the medical establishment to cope with and even supportive care was unavailable?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:32 | 5088927 Socratic Dog
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But, but....we have the best medical system money can buy!  Don't we?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 20:50 | 5090158 Matt
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1. Malaria is treatable

2. Malaria primarily spreads through mosquito bites

3. There are working drugs that can prevent malaria 

If Ebola can be spread by cough or sneeze, it is far bigger a threat. What if the fruit bats in Latin America get it? The bats poop on the pigs and chickens, the migrant workers help create new strains and bring them into the USA. New outbreaks. Do you really want to look forward to "Ebola season" every year?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 12:32 | 5092772 dizzyfingers
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 "What if the fruit bats in Latin America get it? The bats poop on the pigs and chickens, the migrant workers help create new strains and bring them into the USA. New outbreaks. Do you really want to look forward to "Ebola season" every year?

The endless vectors of contamination boggle the mind.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:48 | 5088323 Kirk2NCC1701
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Although our brains think in linear terms, a decent education is supposed to get you to understand and process nonlinear things.

Judging by the results, it is clear that many degree holders in position of power and influence need to return their degrees.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:13 | 5088832 Ms. Erable
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Pffft. The vast majority of college graduates have been 'educated' beyond their level of intelligence.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:07 | 5089115 msmith9962
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Unfortunately I found half to be idiots, the other half unethical and all to be greedy.  Makes for bad choices.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:22 | 5088222 pods
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Except that in Africa, AIDS diagnoses are quite suspect.  

And then there is the whole AZT thing. 
"Doesn't work on cancer?  Give it to the gays."


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:06 | 5088134 firstdivision
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In medieval times, did they launch the livestock over the walls with cataputls or trebuchets?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:07 | 5088140 Tenshin Headache
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Don't think so, but they did human bodies.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:20 | 5090677 willwork4food
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Yes they did. Couldn't take it by force, but launch a few infected bodies in and you have an inside problem to deal with.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:11 | 5088144 hedgeless_horseman
Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:13 | 5088169 Citxmech
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Apparently so. . . 


[Man, you've got to be quick on the draw in this place!]

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:12 | 5088170 Headbanger
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Catapults are a lot easier to load livestock.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:10 | 5088152 Dubaibanker
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Complete update here by BBC: Ebola: Mapping the outbreak

Wonder why the third death of Nigeria that happenned more than 12 hours ago is not updated by BBC.

UPDATE 1-Third person dies of Ebola fever in Nigeria

All deaths in Nigeria have happened from one source at the airport. Even though THEY claim that it is not airborne.......

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:17 | 5088191 firstdivision
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How the fuck have all the countries between Liberia and Nigeria escaped all of this....or is it just not being counted/reported?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:26 | 5088237 Urban Redneck
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They all have their armies massed on their respective western borders. I'm waiting for the whole continent to tip over.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:55 | 5089045 1000yrdstare
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IS that you Hank Johnson?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:28 | 5088249 SilverRhino
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Ask yourself this question. 

Do you expect African warlords / dictators to honestly report disease metrics?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:31 | 5088263 Dubaibanker
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Benin and Uganda had cases but were eventually reported as negative, 2 days ago, after a 3-4 day test waiting period.

Morocco and Saudi had a death last week but not being reported for any further infections. HK and NY was reported negative afterwards too. 

Canadian doctor with self quarantine and scare in Brampton, ON has no further updates. India is warming up to check people at airports.

Spanish priest died this morning.

It is just not been reported in order not to create any more panic. No news on the two Atlanta patients as well.

Just hoping that it will go away, but if it doesn't subside within the next 2 weeks, by end Aug, it may get worse, unfortunately and sadly for all of us.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:35 | 5088627 p00k1e
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Toe-Tappers?  Any Republicans recently return from Nigeria airport bathrooms? 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:09 | 5088804 Frank N. Beans
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"All deaths in Nigeria have happened from one source at the airport. Even though THEY claim that it is not airborne......."

If Ebola came in on an airplane, that proves it is airborne.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 21:13 | 5090233 Matt
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Someone may have shared their fruit bat snacks. Or they may have been infected via a glory hole at the airport bathroom.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:02 | 5088156 lakecity55
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"Reggie, why are you using a rubber and gloves tonight? The mask is raelly kinky, though... I like it!"

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:10 | 5088160 Joebloinvestor
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Kinda coincidental that this occurs after the CDC changes its' definition of "direct contact" huh?


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:16 | 5088161 Tenshin Headache
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lifted from Flutrackers:

2 Nigerian passengers put under medical supervision on Ebola suspicion
August 12, 2014, Tuesday/ 09:51:07/ TODAYSZAMAN.COM / ISTANBUL

Two Nigerian passengers from a Turkish Airlines flight traveling from Lagos, Nigeria to ?stanbul on Tuesday morning have been put under medical supervision on suspicions that they have the Ebola virus.

According to media reports, a female passenger and her child were put under medical supervision after they showed symptoms of fever and vomiting at the ?stanbul Atatürk Airport. The passengers were escorted off the plane by medical teams from the Directorate General of Health for Border and Coastal Areas and were transferred to a nearby hospital via ambulance. The medical teams suspect that the two passengers are carrying the Ebola virus...

Edit: now saying it's malaria ...

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:18 | 5088201 Winston Churchill
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Sounds so much better than dragged off their plane and locked up.

How prescient of our Beloved Leaders to have built those FEMA camps.

With crematoria, almost like they knew.......

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:49 | 5088335 knukles
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Don't forget the DUMBS for the elite, Winston.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:22 | 5088570 rwe2late
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do the military/police wear space suits?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:55 | 5088371 Kirk2NCC1701
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Just do what the Saudis and Kuwaitis did: Ban all flights from the Ebola region, or ban all "personal" flights. Perhaps allow only flights for key businesses or orgs.

It's called RISK MITIGATION, dumb asses!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:14 | 5088180 pods
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Six months from now there will be 12 new reasons why we need government.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:16 | 5088192 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Remind me again of the current 'reasons' we need government?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:24 | 5088230 Citxmech
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I think "shut the fuck up or else" is the first reason.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:50 | 5088337 knukles
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fo' dah chillen'

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:27 | 5088246 stacking12321
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because of the roads, dammit!

if there's no government, who will build the roads?

oh, and also, to protect us from terrorists, of course!

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:32 | 5088269 pods
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idk, I am an anarchist so I don't pay attention to their bellyaching.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:15 | 5088186 Utah_Get_Me_2
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I vote for an 'Outbreak' style thermobaric fuel-air carpet bombing of said cordon 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:19 | 5088210 Zoomorph
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This breakout is exaggerated and over-publicized. I guess people need constant stimulation these days, and what better than an "epidemic" to add to the latest string of wars. :-)

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:20 | 5088212 cougar_w
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"we don’t live in that era anymore. And as soon as cases are under control, one should dial back the restrictions"

Hah. Who do they think they are kidding?

Those places will become unlivable pits of Hell. Dead bodies laying around. Dogs eating the dying alive. Abandoned toddlers standing crying in the middle of the street until they fall over dead of grief and exposure.

Make all the jokes you want to, you ZH fuck-wits. Go ahead. Laugh it up. Make yourself useful and go back and re-stack your gold coins or something.

I'm tired of the good-to-be-king vibe around here. Some of you people need your heads examined.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:30 | 5088262 SilverRhino
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Seems we disagree on possible treatments but your assessment here is spot on.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:13 | 5088486 IridiumRebel
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Lots of "hardasses" on here. People that bluster online are usually quite different in person. I am watching this closely. We start to see an advance in numbers in Africa or cases start to pop up on other continents I'd get worried. 

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:35 | 5088281 Winston Churchill
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Biology was your major cougar, not psychology.

Even the commentators here are scared shitless ,and making bad jokes about it

is normal when there is fuck all else you can do.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 14:51 | 5088348 Herd Redirectio...
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Exactly.  This is why I have joked about Sterno, Bath Salts, and Krokodil, and why my personal recommendation is this:

When its time to party, we will party hard

Who knew the bleeding was due to hemorrhagic fever?

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:53 | 5088726 surfer433
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Ebola scares the shit out of me.


Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:32 | 5090707 willwork4food
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Wed, 08/13/2014 - 15:38 | 5088648 Bemused Observer
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Don't worry, if Ebola does come here in all it's glory, they will run to their doctors who, being in our enlightened Western world, will find those doctors can only help them grow a full head of hair and get a hard-on, because THAT'S what the medical community has been working on. Because THAT'S where the money is.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 23:38 | 5090711 willwork4food
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Possibly. But having been a guest for a few of the medical community specialists, I can tell you they are doing quite well with an over abundance of cancer and other serious health patients. One was booked for 6 months out.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 16:12 | 5088829 7.62x54r
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cougar_w: With the retards we have running our governments, gallows humor is all we have left.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:49 | 5089326 jerry_theking_lawler
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well, in a short amount of time we will know the 'truth'. no hiding this one...

Ebola (or any disease) will not negotiate with the .gov and will not stop on its own....

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 17:55 | 5089349 lolmao500
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Yeah but can ebola be bribed? Or better yet, sanctioned into submission?

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