"This Is Exactly What Bin Laden Wanted" Ron Paul Concludes

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Having expressed his dismay at President Obama's decision to embark upon Iraq War 3.0, Ron Paul explains "it's a little bit late to salvage all the mistakes that we've made for the past 24 years," adding that he is worried "it will end up with a lot more violence because they are putting more troops in there right now." Simply out, Paul concludes, "the sooner we get out of there the better," as it "jeopardizes our national security and is bankrupting our country... this is exactly what Osama bin Laden wanted."



As RT adds,

Even if the US abandons its efforts, Paul added, assistance provided to other groups throughout the region may end up sabotaging attempts to dismantle the Islamic State if weaponry trickles downs into the hands of militants. Firepower already provided by the Pentagon in and around Iraq has found itself in the wrong hands, Paul said, and the only solution to prevent further unintended consequences is to keep America out of international conflicts altogether.


“I would stick to the basic principle that we have a strong national defense, we defend our national security, we don’t get involved in fights around the world, we don’t get involved in civil strife and civil wars and especially what was going on in the middle east,” he said, “so no, I think the argument stands on its own merits that we shouldn’t be involved in doing this.”


“I think the sooner we get out of there the better,” Paul told David. “We don’t have a moral responsibility; we don’t have a constitutional responsibility. It has nothing to do with our national security. It in jeopardizes our national security and is bankrupting our country.”


What’s more, Paul added, is that the US government’s ongoing meddling in the Iraqi affair and other incidents is falling exactly in line with Al-Qaeda. According to Paul, terrorists have long intended to take the US down by wasting its resources on campaigns, the likes of which have been called fodder for some by further fanning the flames of anti-American sentiments through military action carried out in far apart countries.


“This is exactly what Osama bin Laden wanted,” Paul said. “He wanted to engage us over there because he said, ‘I’ll bring you down like I brought the Soviets down.’ We are doing the same thing because we flat out can’t afford it. It’s a failed policy. I think after so many years and so many decades we ought to admit the truth.”

h/t Jim Quinn's Burning Platform blog

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Greenskeeper_Carl's picture

no one listen to ron paul, nothing to see here, move along. just remember, we have to bomb all these people cuz of our freedoms...

Slave's picture

Funny, because the people telling us that are the ones taking our freedoms away.

NoDebt's picture

You're not supposed to notice that.  Please stop having independent thought.

gh0atrider's picture

Sure Tim Osman and Ron Paul have their angle in all this.  But what gh0atrider would really like to see you do is turn your life and your devotion over to Satoshi.

AldousHuxley's picture

Thanks to Ron Paul for exposing the truth....

But the real truth is that most Americans are bunch of nonproductive lards who won't be able to enjoy the standard of living afforded by control of oil.

Davalicious's picture

I wonder how many notice that it is always a "stein" or "berg" spearheading the effort to take away our freedoms.

Watergate journalist Carl Bernstein explains that Jewish neocons were behind the Iraq war


max2205's picture

Why don't people just retire and STFU

Lore's picture

Good post. OBL didn't "want" it; he merely understood. "Rebuilding America's Defenses" requires bogeymen. OBL fit the bill, for a while. Lately it's ISIL. Later it will be something else to justify continued presence in the region.

The Wizard's picture

Did OBL theorize this or was OBL a cog in the wheel of a bigger plan? Ron implies the military industrial complex but doesn't give any detail as to how OBL and the other fanatics are funded. The devil is in the details.

Lore's picture

RP is very careful never to make direct accusations, but as you suggest, all is one and everybody plays their role - including the Bin Laden family. 

The Carlyle Group, the Bush family and 9/11 (PressTV c/o YouTube)

A Nanny Moose's picture

Nobody listened to Ron Paul, and here we are.

Reminds me of a story about the masses ridiculing some guy for buillding that proverbial boat. All funny right up until the point the proverbial rains didn't stop.

gh0atrider's picture

Nobody listened to fonestar either (and they missed $16 BTC!!).

gh0atrider's picture

No you dumb fuck.  fonestar was here bragging about Bitcoin lots under $50.

Citxmech's picture

Still waiting for BTC to challenge Au. . .

gh0atrider's picture

We'll get there when we get there.

Citxmech's picture

Um hmm,

And where will Au be at that point?

FinalEvent's picture

But you should know that bitcoin is not about making "money" ($) but about a wormhole to freedom.

sessinpo's picture

gh0atrider   Nobody listened to fonestar either (and they missed $16 BTC!!).


And bitcon continues to slide. This shouldn't be happening with a deflationary model of limited bitcons. That is why bitcon needs huxters like you to pump, so you can then dump.

I love how coinbase says "As a merchant, you never need to hold bitcoin or expose yourself to any exchange rate risk if you don't want to."

But, but, I thought bitcon was a sure thing, LOL. Even coinbase admits their is exposure to exchange risk. And what are they exchanging for? Dollars. But, but, I thought bitcon was the new currency to replace fiat, LOL.

gh0atrider's picture

Who fucking cares if Bitcoin "slides" to $500 or $400.  Fucking buy more then.  Face it, you're a reject-redneck like most of the tards here who thinks we are going back to the 1800's.

Jack Sheet's picture

Do us all a favor and delete yourself

teslaberry's picture

plenty of people 'listened' to ron paul . 




BobPaulson's picture

Yes. The alternative is "forcibly". But that would require people who are more or less getting enough food and video games to keep them happy to suddenly adopt risk and leadership. Ain't gonna happen. It will happen when people have felt some pain, like in Ferguson. Every new crackdown turns the heat up a notch.

Seer's picture

Best to apply one's energy as productively as one can.  Had that proverbial boat-builder spent his time talking about how it was a good idea rather than doing the boat-building, well...

It’s best to set the example.  Those who are curious and have incentive will see the cues.  Those that aren't and don't are going to suffer what always happens to those of such attentiveness.  Pretty much what the parable was meant to convey...

MeMongo's picture

C'mon Ronny the tribe wants their woar and they will have it! Your Son has sold out to the tribe and will certainly be rewarded... so what say you Mr. Paul? Is your son a sell out? Or is he simply towing the line until he's in a position to fucking ditch the tribe for good.....MONGO HOPING:-)...please!please!

Seek_Truth's picture

Ron Paul:

A pillar of Patriotism
A monument to Morality
An anathema to the Majority
A conscience to those who are Unconscious.

The last chance the USA had,
It's turned from good to bad,
Rand ain't no Ron.
The USA is done.

If he had somehow got elected,
They'd put a bullet in his head,
Time'd have him on its cover,
Same result- USA is over.

Karaio's picture


Another pillar of patriotism. 

More a political fagot ever fired a shot in a war. 

Swear to you that MacAim hoped for, at least the guy was sincere when he quarreled with Obozzo. 

This shitty third world war would have happened or not. 

This would not be bitching hide and seek child. 

Make or break.

Duffy Duck's picture

I applaud you for, at least, using your own photo as your icon.

Seer's picture

As much as I like Ron Paul (yeah, I went around begging people to vote for him), he, nor anyone else, has or ever could keep an empire from its destiny with collapse.

The problem has more to do with the System than with the people (though the System creates some pretty nasty characters, that's for sure).

Socratic Dog's picture

Newsflash: the people let the system be created.  They chose to ignore the well-documented warnings of the founders.  Too bad.

sessinpo's picture

Greenskeeper_Carl    no one listen to ron paul, nothing to see here, move along. just remember, we have to bomb all these people cuz of our freedoms...


This would have happened without bin laden. Get over it.

RP was the same guy against a border wall, but wanted more border patrol agents. Contradictory?

Seer's picture

"RP was the same guy against a border wall, but wanted more border patrol agents. Contradictory?"

Not sure which would result in more trough action.

As usual, however, we're running around trying to "fix" the problems that we create.  NAFTA did wonders to create this situation.

"This would have happened without bin laden. Get over it."

True.  ALL empires suffer collapse:


Jack Sheet's picture

RPs articles have a magnificent air of futility about them.

doctor10's picture

Suspect Paul is closer to the truth if he were to substitute "central banks" for "Bin Laden" -whoever that may be.

Oldwood's picture

The truth is the last thing anyone wants. Our delusions are the only thing worth living for.

sessinpo's picture

Gromit   Freedom is slavery


That's cause nothing is free. Just learn that. The welfare recievers will learn that soon enough.

Seer's picture

Truths are subjective.

Facts.  Give me FACTS!

Lea's picture

If truths are subjective, then they're not truths, but mere interpretations. Interpretations vary, the truth does not.

SilverIsMoney's picture

There goes my President...

alexcojones's picture

ISIS is CIA+Mossad.

Bin Laden was Oswald in a Turban

samsara's picture

Bin Laden was Oswald in a Turban

I'm gonna steal that one.  That is beautiful.

intric8's picture

True. This is exactly what israel and the neocons in power wanted more than anyone else.

As long as goyim are slitting each others throats, zions machinations are coming to fruition. The u.s. is merely a powerful agent to achieve their end. They dont care if the rest of the nations exist, except the need for subservient labor. Someone must do the menial work.

Everyone realizes that war is senseless, especially in view of our advancement as a species. Peace is achievable. As long as the false-flag tactic continues as a viable option for these evil war planners, the world can never ever experience lasting peace. "By deception we make war"

The only way america makes it out of this one is to remove israels sphere of influence from the u.s. Then a real recovery would take place. Unfortunately, israel would then become the preeminent terrorist state in the world, if they arent already.

intric8's picture

Everyone is being played like a fiddle, including the u.s. Read the confessions of an ex mossad agent.


Citxmech's picture


"This Is Exactly What (the people who created) Bin Laden Wanted."

Fixed it.