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Russia Sanctions Blowback: Finland's Largest Dairy Lays Off 800, Spain Seeks EU Aid, Poland Complains To WTO
Well that didn't take long. Mere day after Russia announced its ban on Western nation food imports, European countries are scrambling (as we explained why here). Greece has already expressed dismay, but now Spanish officials will meet with EU leaders to discuss offsetting the country’s estimated up to $800 million in food and agriculture losses due to sanctions. Poland is pissed and has complained to the WTO claiming "Russia has broken international law in both its embargo;" and Finland's largest dairy producer has announced 800 layoffs due to the sanctions. When does Europe tell Washington - enough!
Spain demands aid... (despite Rajoy's support for anti-Russia sanctions)
Spanish Agriculture Minister Isabel Garcia Tejerina said the restrictions have prompted her ministry to convene a meeting with the European Commission in Brussels on Thursday.
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The Spanish government has estimated that agricultural losses will amount to €337 million, or about 1.8 percent of Spanish exports. Other groups, like Spain’s opposition Socialist Party, have estimated the losses to be higher- €581 million.
Last year, 37,000 tons of tomatoes, 35,000 tons of peaches, and 33,000 tons of mandarin oranges were exported from Spain to Russia, according to Spain’s Small Farmer’s Association (UPA).
“The decision that was adopted involves many political issues that exist between Russia and the European Union, and not just the EU. As a result, it may be necessary to compensate us for these political decisions - the producers who work all year and want to at least be paid enough at least to cover production costs,” Lorenzo Ramos, Secretary General of UPA, told RT.
The largest Finnish dairy producer Valio send a forced leave of the staff with factories working for export to Russia. This is stated in the message of concern.
Restructuring will affect Finnish enterprises' Valio: Plant in Haapavesi ( cheese Oltermanni), Seinäjoki ( oil Valio), Vantaa ( cream cheese Viola) and warehouse in Lappeenranta. Concern revise employment contracts of all the employees of these companies. " Some of the staff ( according to preliminary estimates, 800 people) can go on forced leave to fully clarify the situation, with a portion of employees will not be renewed temporary employment contracts, "- said in a statement.
Poland's agriculture minister went on television to announce the country was taking action against Russia's new import ban. "We believe Russia has broken international law in both its embargo against Poland and its embargo against the EU," Marek Sawicki said.
Russia banned the import of Polish fruit and vegetables in early August - a move Sawicki said would cost Poland 0.6 percent of GDP.
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"If a WTO member state believes another WTO member state has taken a measure that is not in conformity with WTO rules, the affected WTO member state may request mediation," attorney and WTO expert Eric Pickett said.
And the Czechs are in for some EU assistance...
- *ZEMAN BACKS EU AID TO CZECH AGRICULTURAL COS. AFTER SANCTIONS
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S&P 500 nears all-time highs as US companies do not seem to suffer at all... We are sure Merkel is watching carefully.
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Its not an accident.
Russia is the scapegoat.
RIPS
Send it over here, we need a price break.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BEvkVl6RJk
How much longer can we stand Obozoma making wars? These bleeding hart dems are going to ruin this amazing land.
Was your hearing aid broken when the usual troupe of Republicans were calling for arming the Kurds, not to mention the Syrian opposition, and renewing bombing, helped by right wing media douchebags like Krauthammer? Did you forget who started the Iraq war in the first place?
They won't take my guns away from me. If they do take them I will shoot them before they can.
We are seeing the dissolution of the WTO right before our eyes. This is beautiful.
What did they expect? That Russia would just lie down and take being squeezed? This was not thought through. If they were cut off from something they would make other arrangements also, if they could.
The US and EU sure didn't.
Russia was all over China and S. Am. Lining up alternates and had deals ready to go immediately. That is how the lessons of chess apply at scale.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bEDb0CPdjpA
Good words, good avatar.
I wish you were right but......no, they will just drone your ass, and evryone living with and near you.
I don't know what a kurd is but it sounds alot like turd.
You're drunk, aren't you?
Tony Stewart will run over u and Obozoma.
Still haven't found that ideal combination of Bud Lite, crystal meth and muscle relaxers, have you? Here's a hint that should save you some money, and friends. There isn't one.
Maybe the laid off dairy workers can get extended unemployment benefits from the US?
They have to walk to Phoenix first.
Poland is pissed and has complained to the WTO claiming "Russia has broken international law in both its embargo;"
Fuck you Poland you fucking cunts - not happy with fucking with Germany's reasonable request for her city and people back - because you had a war guarantee from England?
How'd that work out for ya?
Such a bitch country wanting to play in the big leagues yet hiding behind England and now NATO, tweaking the nose of their betters while cravenly relying on alliances to prevent repercussions ... and now whining because the Rooskies won't just roll over and take it?
This boggles the mind.
I guess 50 million dead wasn't enough - let's go for 5 billion this time.
TL/DR Fuck you Poland.
WW III coming soon too a theater near you.
Not so fast GI Joe, it's 3 strikes and ur out.
Let them eat vegetables!
Russia is also playing with fire.. trusting the chinese to supply them with the food they are not ordering from the west.
WHO knows how its made (pun intended)
sure but they are also actively trying to deal with Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and Chile for food products. Turkey too I believe even though they are NATO.
Indeed! Brazil has started construction of 8 new meat packing plants to service the Russia market. Many thousands of new jobs will go to Brazilian workers and families will earn a living. Brazil would be insane to throw that away because Obama is a cunt!
Greetings Jack,
Last month, I posted on some some things that were flying under the radar, and many people did not really grasp the implications. Well, here is one specific and tangible example of the BRICS/UNASUR summit and some of the things I discussed.
As crazy as it sounds, I believe you are actually understating the numbers by quite a bit, If the numbers from Brazil’s Association of Meat Exporters are accurate, it is a hell of a lot more than just "8 new meat packing plants".
Consider this:
"Brazilian meat exports to Russia are soaring. Brazil’s Association of Meat Exporters said on Tuesday that beef exports rose 19 per cent in July to $692 million over the same period last year. Exports to Russia rose 113 per cent to $181 million last month, compared to July 2013. The volume of meat exports to Russia surged, rising 78.9 per cent during July, to 41,000 tonnes. Recently, 90 new meat plants in Brazil were approved to send beef, chicken and pork to Russia."
Even the propagandistic MSM cannot ignore it and find themselves forced to report on this.
Wait for the numbers from Argentina, which is another big food producer with a huge excess capacity for production. They will certainly have similar, (and I personally believe even greater) and absolutely eye-popping numbers coming out.
As a slight digression, I will point out to any active ZH investor that they might consider getting ahead of the curve and invest in those enterprises which will benefit from this explosive growth in trade. These numbers will continue to soar until the supply/demand reaches some semblance of equilibrium, and we are very far from that right now...
In any case, Latin American countries such as Ecuador, Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, Uruguay, Brazil, and even subjugated Mexico (WTF!) are racing to fill the EU void. The EU is vociferously protesting, but the Latin American countries will promptly tell the spineless Euro lackeys to go cry to their Uncle Sam about it and blow it out their collective asses.
This is no joke; tectonic plates are moving fast and the ground is shifting. It kinda reminds me of the old Russian proverb-
Russians take their time to saddle the horses, but they ride awfully fast!
It just occurred to me that I should have mentioned another proverb-
"Don't bring a knife to a gunfight".
Well, Vladimir Vladimirovich just put one in the EU's kneecap, a full 20 feet away from the knife.
Poland, the Netherlands, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia are already dead. It falls to the EU to deal with the corpses now.
Several other countries are in cardiac arrest right now. Italy, Spain, Greece, Finland, Bulgaria, Sweden, Hungary, Slovakia, and Belgium, and yes, even though they will keep a stiff upper lip, the "United Kingdom" (who is about to lose more than 1/3 of it's national territory).
It falls upon the EU to provide first aid and keep them alive. Unfortunately, the EMTs that are tasked with providing CPR and mortuary services (Germany, France) are experiencing tachycardia and hyperventilating.
Putin is very clearly demonstrating to the EU what a "boomerang" is, and what it does.
Yep, there's obviously the BRICS nations (where Brazil is also part of USAN), not to mention the EEU which when ratified will kick off January 1st, 2015. Turkey has long established relations with Russia and recently entered into a gas deal and are looking into collaborating with Russia in the Russian-led Customs Union...
Scaremongering?
Last I checked, total countries less the 28 EU, US, and Australia comes to 166, not 1.
And there's a lot more (good) going on than rearranging some food exports:
The birth of a new financial-economic system: the example of Russia and Argentina
The Vineyard of the Saker
12 August
Excerpt:
The bottom line is this: very few nations are still attracted to the AngloZionist imperial model, and very few are still frightened by it. The result is the kind of collaboration (never shown on the MSM, of course) which you can see in this report [VIDEO at link above - 07:47 with English captioning, courtesy of the Russian team of The Vineyard of the Saker] . Enjoy!
Russia has enough land to feed the whole planet, and now thy have their "excuse" to gear up food production. they only have around 140 million people (I think)
Land, yes. However they also have a very short growing season on most of that land. Kind of like Saskatchewan. Grow a lot in the summer, import food in the winter.
Putin allegedly said: Negotiating w obama is like playing chess with a pigeon. It knocks all the pieces over, craps all over the board and then struts around like it won.
Is that really true? If he really said that its just about the funniest thing Ive seen in years
I banned Whole Foods....whatever
Popular quote originating from Americans disillusioned in Obama rather than Putin.
Still funny though!
I believe the origins of this quote came from atheists who use it against young earth creationists (YECs) who debate the age of the earth on YouTube and site the Bible as definitive proof and then claim themselves victors of the debate. Don't quote me on that.
This is so true. Obozoma makes huge mess as he tries to win. But he probably may not.
I read somewhere that this quote is false. Everybody throws it around but apparently Putin never said that. However, I agree that The Chimp is something like that.
Obama's problem is that it is totally believable.
Everyone did just fine not trading with the Soviets during the cold war.
Stop whining and learn to adjust. Find other buyers, they're out there.
There was a whole bunch of trade during the soviet era.With the exception of
what was directly of military use.
You had to be creative over how you got paid though, I got paid into containers of
vodka on more than one occaison.
there's buyers out there...take a basket of goods and services that EU nations may or may not have sold to Russia and can't now, put a theoretical value on it, collatoralize the basket of goods and services with Polish apples and Finnish milk and sell it to Norwegian pension funds as a bond. Create a derivative and ETF on the these baskets, rehypothecate the Polish apples, blow up bubble enticing new buyers.
Winston - You are so right on that. The fishermen on Cape Cod during the 70's and 80's would sell their entire catch to Soviet trawlers while out on the Grand Banks for Russion goods such as barrels, vodka, gear, etc. I think that most of the plastic food grade barrels that were in use at the Chatham fish pier and on the boats of the Chatham fleet were all Soviet made.
Ronald Reagan signed a huge wheat export deal to the Soviet Union. No republican complained then, in fact republican farmers were delighted with Reagan for being pragmatic and a booster of farm exports. If RR could see the light, then any real Ameircan should accept trade as above petty political war mongering.
The biggest difference now is Russia doesn't want that GMO shit.
Or sell it to your friendly "buy when the blood runs in the streets" Israeli (for much less) who will then find someone that wants it.
When times get really tough, the pawn brokers get richer.
Yes. Use a intermediar. Turkish apples are very tasteful.
You should know that former Soviet Russia had supplied the former western Europe with gas/oil....but you are right, Germany and Austria is not everyone.
In the early 1980s there were American efforts, led by the Reagan administration, to convince European countries through which a proposed Soviet gas pipeline was to be built to deny firms responsible for construction the ability to purchase supplies and parts for the pipeline and associated facilities. The pipeline was built despite these protests and the rise of large Russian gas firms such as Gazprom as well as increased Russian fossil fuel production has facilitated a large expansion in the quantity of gas supplied to the European market since the 1990s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_European_energy_sector
Let them eat iPads
incredible,
nostalgic for the "good old days" of the Cold War.
Your understanding has similarity to Marie Antoinette's.
Do you remember the airport security (or lack thereof) of the "Cold War" days?
Do you remember your local police dept. SWAT team (or lack thereof) of the "Cold War" days?
I remember it well. Those were the "Good Old Days".
Consequences...
When does Europe tell Washington - enough!
Right before the NY Fed drops the toxic derivatives hammer on Deutsche Bank.
when the fed stops printing money and buying peripheral bonds. there has never been a taper. now, they're simply lying about how much they print. its not like the taxpayer will ever get an audit of the Fed. so, those fucks can do whatever they want.
"When does Europe tell Washington - enough!"
When Israel tells them too.
actually it's germany and the 10 or 20 dwarfs, just take a look at rampuy (or whatever is name is)
So the US and EU can sanction anyone, but no one can sanction them? It's good to be the world's master.
Nothing but mafia crime families cept they ain't Italian
I am beginning to see the Italian mafia as pikers compared to the Jewish ones. The Italians have their own enforcement muscle. The Jews use militaries from their vassal states to play the heavy.
When one looks into it, the Jewish mafia was actually running the Italian mafia.
A non Jew-aware friend actually informed me of that after discovering it in some books that he was reading on the mob. He thought that it was an isolated curiosity. Little does he know.
"Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
An American citizen, not US subject.
The USA, EU, nato, can spread 'humanitarian aid' in the form of 500# JDAMs...
but if Russia tries to send sleeping bags, rice and salt to Ukraine, it is chastized and told it is not being thoughtful and cooperative..
the world is definitely screwed up and anyone that can't see this is blind as a bat....fruit bat?
Hey, Poland, you have such valid reasons for complaining. Blowback is such a bitch:
Poland’s Role in Destabilizing Ukraine: Polish Military Trained Neo-Nazi Militants for EuroMaidan ProtestsPolish media outlet Nie has published a bombshell account about direct Polish involvement in Ukraine’s destabilization. Its source alleges that the Polish Foreign Ministry had invited Ukrainian militants into the country and trained them outside of Warsaw in September 2013.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/polands-role-in-destabilizing-ukraine-polis...
Lets recall that the original Polish government was against the EU and their Bolshevik owners but all went down in flames in a plane crash. Presto chango the `new' government agreed to the New Bolshevik agenda.
The EU nations are showing strange stubborness in light of sanctions blowback... it is as if they've already been promised chunks of Eastasia by the Oceania following WW3.
Me thinks the leaders there just don't want to go down in a flaming air crash.
I checked the original source, and it's blank. Looks like all files have been /dev/null ed. Even the css has zero length.
http://nie.com.pl/13-2014/tajemnica-stanu-tajemnica-majdanu
Is somwhere the original content available?
Here is some more information on Poland's role:
Meanwhile, there are reports indicating that western cooperation with Right Sector goes back some time. According to a report in the Polish weekly Nie(“No”), published by 80-year-old journalist Jerzy Urban, the Polish Foreign Minister Radoslav Sikorski invited 86 members of Right Sector to an intensive, four-week training course at the Police Training Centre Legionowo near Warsaw last September.
The fascists were trained in crowd management, person recognition, combat tactics, command skills, behaviour in crisis situations, protection against gases used by police, erecting barricades, and especially shooting, including the handling of sniper rifles. The training was officially described as “student exchange.”
The visit took place a full two months before the Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych refused to sign an Association Agreement with the EU on 21 November—the event that triggered the Maidan protests. If the report in Nie is true, it shows that the events leading up to the regime change in Kiev were a carefully planned provocation.
The Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski has close links to ruling circles of the USA. He is married to the right-wing American journalist Anne Applebaum and was director of the Atlantic Initiative at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, starting in 2002.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/04/25/yaro-a25.html
I think the common bond of US hawks it the CFR, Council On Foreign Relations, Hillary to Cheney are all chummy there.
Please, reading "nie" is like reading tabloids for news by Wills Smith in Man In Black
This is why I love the internet - access to documents almost in real time. WW2 was much simpler. Allies - good, Axis bad. I'm more than sure that the amount of shit going on at the time was no smaller than today. All textures and flavors of bullshit flowing in both directions.
America being #1 investor in Germany with big 5 pouring half the capital into ramping up of the war machine? Not a squeak!
Sides were also blurry. Not all Germans supported Nazi's, but being an anti-Nazi was like drumming for Dixie Chicks post 9/11.
Nobody was sure how things would turn out. A good portion of Brits didn't know whether to fly the national banner or learn German.
It's only after the 1944 where the outcome was starting to become more or less obvious people started taking sides: "Oh yeah! I was alway on the winning side!" Only those implicated by documents, photographs and testimonies couldn't wiggle their way out.
Alliances form pre-war. Many Allies were behind Germany prior to 1937. These days nations line up behind the mighty American will, but who knows. Should BRICS bomb the rest into submission economically, "Go Russia" t-shirts might start flying off the shelves just as quickly. People are likely to bet on the perceived winner. It ain't Russia yet. The focus is on "yet".
Get 'em while they're hot!
http://www.cafepress.com/+putin+t-shirts
I did not know all this but seying that I do now.........FUCK POLAND
'Nie' is the worst tabloid of all, terrible info source. 80 year old journalist (urban) is old KGB puppet who will say anything to discredit right wing patriots. Poland is poor country and if you would say something about Polish mercenaries to the people there they would just lough. It is not US The army man make about 1000$ a month. Go and tell him to go to Ukraine and get killed for pennies. There are no contractors for army(like in US) it is all done by military which is so small and weak right now that would be suicidal for them to even touch Russia.
To Putins credit I heard him say "boomerang" quite a few times in press conferences and interviews lately (boomerang is the same word in Russian apparantley)
notice how the further u get from Kyiv, the greater the credit
Putin garners from some at ZH. a layoff looks awful nice vs
looking down the barrel of a T-90. Ask Norway, the Dutch, ask Merkel but don't ask an armchair ZH warrior.
"If you want to be America's bitch, you must pay the price" Who said that first?
Danish people are losing incomes and jobs due to foolish follies of the EU masters:
Arla Foods Fires 79 Employees Due to Russian Food Imports Ban.
Don't know who said it first, but The Saker said something similar last week:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/08/you-wanna-be-uncle-sams-bitch-...
that must have been a Canadian. heir harper and his traned dog baird wpuld be my first guess. deif buried the arrow affter a trip to ike.
most canadian leaders have been stooges to the ussa
Putin: "Winter has not even started....Just imagine, what will happen at X'mas" ...with eyes rolling upwards...
Speaking of, its been very quiet with new sanctions? Anyone know if they are planning new ones soon?
ofc USA are planning new sanctions- their goal to cut off russian gas, so wait for new false flag.
Exactly, it's soooo quiet recently, something is going to happend, soooon.
Do you meant the FLOW of Russian gas, as INTO Europe?
the Ukes themselves are cutting the gas off that goes to EU.
Germany will be fine, I guess with its North Stream - but we will see how much the brothers and sisters in the EU will cry and want some.
Gone are the days of the Wehrmacht...
All these countries need to join the ABF, the Anti-Bolshevik Federation, close their Israeli embassy and deport immediately all zionist dual-citizens and call for a world court tribunal for war crimes and reparations against the zionist madmen.
are you including the US in this, hopefully>
Of course. But ZOG is heavily entrenched here and needs a good solid enema purging liquid.
Wait until the first really cold snap. Russia merely has to survive until it gets cold.
Then they can make the rules.
pods
They are doing a damn nice job now, even without the snow. The scalpel sharp import bans only helps with very little blow back.
What a bunch of whiny bitches. If you don't want your food to be banned there then complain about the sanctions against Russia. Oh wait, can't do that since that'd mean *gasp* telling Obombya & Co to go fuck themselves and mind their damn business.
Only the human species could be so clueless to think someone will just sit there and take being kicked in the balls and not retaliate.
someone will just sit there and take being kicked in the balls and not retaliate> what about Europe?
Last I checked, Europe has been nutless for many years.
Im about USA and Europe - USA tell -Europe do.......
You're right. This is better than sitting back in my chair 'baitin' watching "Ow My Balls!"
The Polish leader was recently quoted "we're American cock suckers"
LOL
yes he was. i should look for it, but it was here on zero hedge. thank god (oops, sorry allah) for an honest man.
Its not the puppets calling the shots. Follow the Money created from nothing by the ____ __________ists. Organized Crime
Doing Business with Russians has always been Risky....
Banned accounts, firms, people and kidnapping from Europe not risky at all
A sour cream shortage in Russia would be a crisis!
This is goin to boomerang on the incompetent EU leaders bigtime.
Who's gonna pay for this fiasco in spé? Why, the people of course....
Keep up these moronic idiocies and there will be a Revolution next year.
That is, if we don't die from Ebola.
I suggest that Europe has a better chance of a sympathetic ear from ISIS than it does with the USA. Or didn't they already understand the fine imposed on BNP?
Trust these European socialists to go crying for a bailout. Tough luck assholes, time for blowback. I remember when I was in South Africa and Europe used to gloat over the sanctions it imposed on the apartheid regime (bad regime I know, I am not justifying it).
In essence ... blowback is a bitch.
/ no sarc
PS: I am in Europe (EUSSR) now.
Riiiight, like South Africa is better managed now
Managed and moral are two different things.
The US is well managed for the top 10% to win. It's not exactly moral tho.
that is not the point man. The sanctions, the sanctions!
Russia has about a $2T GDP. Europe is about $18T. These are just whiners blaming an event to hunt for moar entitlements.
Moar socialist utopia.
tell us europe debt and please explain how exchange rate for paper currency work in this GDP estimation...
Anyone have a picture of the Waaahbulance? WtF did you expect? That the lies that Washington told you would be true? Can you not speak neoconalese? Sanctions will not hurt TPTB, just the proles. And in the appended words of the infamous Victoria Nuland..."fuck the EU 'proles'".
And in further news, a new weather system has formed, it is a catagory 3 Blowback from the east traveling west. Soon to be upgraded.
Sanctions;
Its all fun until someone loses an eye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bp-H8e41fJI#t=10
EU may get tired of taking it for the "Team"
Can someone explain to me why Russia with probably twice the flat black soil as the US and a climate that matches central Illinois with half our worthless population is unable to produce internally all the meat and dairy products it needs and have a giant surplus for export.
Vlad, if you are having a hard time accomplishing this I know plenty of young guys in their 20's and 30's who would love the opportunity to move to Russia and establish food production operations.
Vlad, you could be the beef and veal king of Europe in addition to being called GasPutin.
I'm planning on doing just this in Serbia within the next 12 months.
after lose in cold war and USSR collapse - they murdered most of food production and others too... We are rebuilding it now. We import about 10-25% of food, depending on type.
It's because the Russians love freedom so much.
Read about what Russia did after Chernobyl.
http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Magazines/Bulletin/Bull351/35106881823.pdf
"Pichka ti materna!"
You'd better get used to that common expression in Serbia.
;-)
Kirk, I hear it all the time, usually from someone using the primitve hand tools they sell there.
Most of the people I know in Belgrade run a company that manufactures food or commercial goods or provides consumer services.
Wife is Serbian, we spend about two months out of the year there, couldn't be happier and more excited when the plane is on final to Nikola Tesla.
Russia had great shortages of all kinds of food during the Socialist times. Nobody wanted to work for little money.
Before the Soviet Revolution, Russia was a huge exporter of agricultural products and food.
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Actually, Putin's sanctions will reinvigorate its local food production.
If this continues, when news will "leak" that Obama will be asked to resign, you will say: How did you know?
LOL. I have been watching and waiting for the "failing health" announcements for 2 years now. I thought it was going to be the reason he didn't run for term 2 but they made the poor bastard campaign anyway. I guess they gave him carte Blanche for vacations in return.
EU Slaves and sheeple (which recently have elected exactly those slaves) get exactly what they deserve.
Just that the sheeple pay the price and not the blackmailed slaves.
But maybe that way even European sheeple some day wake up.
Indeed. Perhaps the only thing more shocking than the Imperialist position of the US, is the Boot-licking, ass-kissing going on by European "leaders" and its equally compromised MSM.
Although the European populace is infinitely more informed than 95% of 'Mericans, I have yet to see them getting off their comfy asses and actually DO something. If Greece and Spain are indicative of the rest, it's gonna be a cold winter for many.
! 4 years 20 weeks account
Dear "Cookies" Nuland,
You lost your milk source for your milk and cookies in the Ukraine.
A non dual-citizen American.
TYLER: I LOVE THE SERVICE AND I'M NOT AGAINST SERVICES MAKING MONEY BUT THE BANK OF MONTREAL AD IS A REAL PAIN IN THE ASS. IF YOU TRY TO CLOSE THE AD AS INDICATED IT TAKES YOU TO THE BMO SITE. AND IF YOU JUST LEAVE IT ALONE IT DARKENS THE SCREEN WHICH IS TOUGH FOR AN OLD MAN OF 52 TO SEE;IT DRIVES ME MAD
INSTEAD OF WANTING ME TO LEARN ABOUT BMO'S'INVESTMENT 'TIPS' ,THE LOSS OF TIME AS WELLAS THE BILE RECONGESTED INTO MY SENSITIVE STOMACH JUST , PARADOXICALLY, MAKES ME NOT TO, 'LIKE', BMO,AS COMMERCIALS SHOULD BE ABOUT; BUT RATHER TO I VAGUELY DESIRE TO HURT BMO SOMEHOW AFTER THEY HAVE 'HURT' ME.
IT DOESN'T HELP MUCH THAT BMO/NESBITT-BURNS FUCKED ME ROYALLY, HURTFULLY AND RUTHLESSLY IN THE LATE 1990'S IN A MINING DEAL......
I see no BMO ad. Using Firefox with NoScript.
You are smart.
You know how to make it go.
+1 for the TNG reference.
Findand install Ad Block Plus. It is free. Rides at the bottom of your screen and allows you to disable/enable ads on sites at your choice. Works for me here. I see no BMO irritants.
Curious. Nesbitt Burns burned me as well in 1990's. Along with another smaller Vancouver shyster.
Whoops.....sorry. I didn't see you'd already recommended adblockplus.
My bad.
'Nesbitt/Burns, small Vancouver shyster'-they were legion in those days. Although 'one small Vancouver shyster' did hammer me into Diamet when it was 50 cents/share so I can't complain too much about those Irish punters..........
Thanks for the computing advice I will try it.
Use a proper browser.
I recommend "Firefox Palemoon", available as install or portable versions: http://www.palemoon.org/
Then install a few Ad-ons like this one: http://adblockplus.org/en/
End of problem.
Adblock Plus has sold out to advertisers and compromised its platform.
I suggest Adblock Edge instead.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/
Good point. I recall that, but I'm still running the original without any problems.
Firefox has a really dull interface. I feel like I'm looking at page made by a 4th grader.
I'll try palemoon though...
Firefox/Palemoon are quite customisable. Palemoon has several functions removed that many people don't need/use. eg: parental control: http://www.palemoon.org/technical.shtml So it runs a tad faster than the regular FF.
Thanks, Smacker
I do most of my posting from an iPhone - and the banner ads at the bottom are fucking annoying...worst of all they are for full retard App Store games that likely would bore a monkey.
I second that. I don't play any of them.
A fellow poster here recommended NoScript to me, and it has worked great on those annoying 'extras' on websites.
And you can 'allow' the features if you wish on particular sites.
And it's free.
If you're using Chrome, try AdBlock... very effective and works seamlessly (I don't see any ads on ZH for example).
If our stock-market goes up on bad news because it's 100% Algos then if the Russian stock market goes up on bad news does that mean they are 100% Algos too?
PROPAGANDA
Everyone seems to think Putin will just turn the crank in early September and slow the gas flow.
Doing a brute force cut-off is not in the cards and is not in Gazprom's best interest. You don't want to force EUR to conserve or look elsewhere for gas, it detracts from your bottom line.
I wonder what he will do next.
He may just want to secure his piece of Ukraine and keep NATO off. EUR will have to live with that. If EUR allows the treasonous, mad cow US Govt to gin up a war, they deserve to pay more and/or freeze their a$$es a little; but EUR is a better player at realpolitick, certainly superior to the Zionist/Xtian/LGBT clown squad occupying the White House and Senate.
I expect the new borders will be worked out before the first frost.
"Doing a brute force cut-off is not in the cards and is not in Gazprom's best interest. You don't want to force EUR to conserve or look elsewhere for gas, it detracts from your bottom line. I wonder what he will do next."
He will have intermittent "disruptions" cause intermittent supply issues that he will blame on the situation in the Ukraine and on the belligerent coup-government in the Ukraine.. This will run up the price and profits for the Russians while simultaneously causing fear and anger to reverberate through western and eastern Europe. The sour mood of western Europeans will undermine the DC US' and Israel's propaganda over the Ukraine and push the eastern European countries closer to Russia.
Putin: "Check!"
An American citizen, not DC US subject.
I think Putin will fake 'to turn the gas off' in the fall to get paid the arrears on what's owed for the gas now, the Ukraine (IMF) will pay, then the gas will flow again (at a higher price per unit , mind you)and around March next year when it warms up a little Ukraine will stiff Putin again....
Until next fall........
The attitude of the Warsaw regime seems to be "Screw you Russia, we're backing our Nazi friends in Kiev.......oh wait, it's costing us 0.6% of GDP? waaaaaah waaaaaaah, WTO help us please, Russia is so mean!"
The US is run out of Brussels. But you can still get cauliflower down at Trader Joe's.