Ferguson, Bundy Ranch, & 'Dancing The Night Away' With The Obamas

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

“My administration has been closely monitoring the situation in Egypt, and I know that we will be learning more tomorrow when day breaks.  As the situation continues to unfold, our first concern is preventing injury or loss of life.  So I want to be very clear in calling upon the Egyptian authorities to refrain from any violence against peaceful protestors.


The people of Egypt have rights that are universal.  That includes the right to peaceful assembly and association, the right to free speech, and the ability to determine their own destiny.  These are human rights.  And the United States will stand up for them everywhere.”


- U.S. President Barack Obama, January 28, 2011 (official statement here).

The events in Ferguson, Missouri went from what could have been just another all too common and tragic incident in which an unarmed black man is killed by an overly aggressive and unprofessional police force, to what may be a historically significant event in American history. So how did this transformation occur and what does it mean going forward? Those are the two questions I intend to address in this post.

There are two primary factors that have collided to create the current out of control situation in a suburb roughly 15 miles northwest of St. Louis, which before this past weekend, almost no one had ever heard of. The first factor is the underlying tension in American society that I have been writing about for several years now. Nowhere is this tension more apparent than in the minority majority inner cities or their outskirts. Being a privileged person, I have thankfully never experienced the dehumanization and oppression felt by so many in these disenfranchised communities, but I can still understand the fact that these neighborhoods are ground zero in the civil unrest that is likely to continue into the foreseeable future.

The second factor is the entirely inappropriate and dangerous militarization of police forces throughout these United States. While extreme tension between impoverished communities and the police has been well documented for decades and expressed through music and movies (I grew up with NWA’s Fuck Tha Police and Colors), the cops were generally speaking merely men and women driving around in patrol cars with guns and batons. Not to dismiss the violence that can and has been inflicted through those means, but the police in recent years have taken things to a whole new frightening level: Total Militarization.

I consider this trend to be such an existential threat to freedom and civil liberties that I have expended a considerable deal of time and energy over the past several years highlighting it. I have covered the topic too many times to list here (I will provide a compilation at the end of this post), but there is one in particular I want to mention. The post was published two months ago and was titled: The Militarization of Police Continues…Machine Guns, Grenade Launchers, Silencers and More. In it I quoted the following from a New York Times article:

During the Obama administration, according to Pentagon data, police departments have received tens of thousands of machine guns; nearly 200,000 ammunition magazines; thousands of pieces of camouflage and night-vision equipment; and hundreds of silencers, armored cars and aircraft.


The equipment has been added to the armories of police departments that already look and act like military units. Police SWAT teams are now deployed tens of thousands of times each year, increasingly for routine jobs. Masked, heavily armed police officers in Louisiana raided a nightclub in 2006 as part of a liquor inspection. In Florida in 2010, officers in SWAT gear and with guns drawn carried out raids on barbershops that mostly led only to charges of “barbering without a license.”

I then concluded the post with the following observation:

Of all the bad ideas currently being implemented in these United States, turning the police into soldiers is certainly near the top of the list.

Indeed, and we are now reaping some of the rewards from this absurd and fascist policy. One that must be reversed immediately. If you think I or others may be exaggerating the threat here, think again. Social media and the internet generally is filled with veterans reacting in horror at what they are seeing unfold domestically. Here are two of the most powerful tweets I came across:



At this point I’d like to remind everyone that crime in the U.S. has been dropping since the 1990′s. So why has domestic police force militarization been growing exponentially since then? Ostensibly, it is for the “war on terror” and to keep us safe. In reality, we know this is bullshit. Just like the NSA’s constitutional spying hasn’t stopped a single terrorist attack, turning local cops into a domestic army hasn’t done a single thing to make us safe.To the contrary, it is creating an environment where the general public harbors increased resentment and skepticism toward police, and the police view the citizenry as the “enemy.” This takes the societal tinderbox that already exists and makes it downright explosive. Ferguson is just the latest example of the tension bubbling to the surface, but there will likely be many more in the future.

While the above exposes the excuse for militarization for the lie it is, it doesn’t answer the question. As I have maintained for years now, I believe all police state activities, from NSA surveillance to the militarization of the police, is a entirely deliberate program being implemented by the status quo (oligarchs, Wall Street, politicians, intelligence agencies, etc) to put in place a police state ahead of the civil unrest and dissent they know is coming. How do they know it’s coming? Simple. They know better than anyone else the extent of their collective theft and lawlessness and they know full well domestic blowback is coming. They are just getting geared up ahead of time.

So where do we go from here? What does all this mean and can we expect more of this in the future? One of the more disturbing aspects of this entire affair, particularly to the black community, must be President Barack Obama’s complete indifference to the entire incident. He had been pretty much silent on the entire thing, yet Principal Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz found the time to release the following statement last night updating the world on…Obama’s vacation. Here’s the official press briefing:

Tonight, the President and First Lady attended the birthday celebration for Mrs. Ann Jordan at an event at the Farm Neck Golf Club. There were approximately 150 guests in attendance.


Among the attendees seated with the Jordans and the President and First Lady were former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Valerie Jarrett and her mother Mrs. Barbara Bowman, Ursula Burns, Kenneth Chenault and his wife Kathy, along with other friends and family of Mrs. Jordan. President Obama honored Mrs. Jordan with a toast before dinner, as did Mr. Jordan and Secretary Clinton and others. The President and First Lady have known the Jordans for over twenty years, and were grateful to have been able to share this special evening with them.


The President and First Lady also were happy to have the chance to spend time with Secretary Clinton and former President Clinton.


A little color: in his toast for Mrs. Jordan, President quipped that he met Vernon and first, but liked Ann more. The menu consisted of surf and turf and pasta. The Obamas danced nearly every song. A good time was had by all.

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Glad you had such a fun time as the death of American civil society was being broadcast to the world. I’m dying to know. How was the lobster? More importantly, compare Obama’s apathy toward what is happening in Ferguson to his impassioned expression of support he officially voiced toward the protesters in Egypt. It’s quite telling to see how much more interested he is in the freedom of people halfway across the world than within his own nation. That’s all you really need to know.

*Note: Since writing this piece, Obama has made his first public statement on Ferguson (see here). Apparently he is doing damage control after his dance party press release last night. What I find so interesting is how he first calls for calm on behalf of the protesters and then afterward addresses the police. Compare that to his statements on Egypt at the top.

At this point I want to make a comparison that relatively few people have zeroed in on. The similarities between the Bundy Ranch confrontation earlier this year and the unrest in Ferguson. While the superficial differences are stark (one group being white, rural and likely relatively well off, with the other being black, urban and poor), I believe the root cause of the unrest is more similar than you might think. There is seething anger at what is correctly perceived to be oppression and authoritarianism on behalf of the “status quo.” The key distinction here is that poor, black, urban communities have been dealing with this for generations, while it has only more recently targeted its sights on formerly middle-class white communities. This makes for an absolutely explosive situation going forward as the looting and pillaging of the power structure continues without repercussions for the offenders. So why am I bringing up the comparison to the Bundy Ranch in the first place? Because I don’t want Americans to be divided and conquered further based on false superficial differences. All of us as citizens are involved in a monumental struggle not against each other, but against the status quo. The quicker we recognize this, the quicker we can deal with the real problem. Very early on, I attempted to focus on the similarities between the the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street so that those two movements could join forces. I highlighted the following graphic whenever possible:

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Although we are now starting to see libertarians and progressives unite in Congress on some very important issues such as domestic surveillance, the demonization of each others’ movements by both sides as somehow less pure or enlightened than the other prevented a much wider and united action for social and economic justice. It was a huge missed opportunity and I don’t want this to happen again. The Bundy Ranch affair and the unrest in Ferguson, Missouri should be seen as two sides of the same coin. The American public finally getting fed up with the authoritarianism of the corrupt status quo. One of my most popular posts of 2014 was the piece on the Bundy Ranch titled: Why the Standoff at the Bundy Ranch is a Very Big Deal. I concluded that piece with the following:

However, my long-term fear is that unless the government and its puppet masters on Wall Street and elsewhere in big business change course, social upheaval will prove inevitable, whether the Bundy Ranch sparks it, or some other incident down the road. These are troubled times and they are likely going to get worse before they get better.

We are seeing some of what I feared back then play out in Missouri right now. I found the following tweet to be extremely powerful and poignant:



The last point I want to address is the historical significance I think Ferguson will ultimately command. This could’ve simply been an incident such as the one recently in New York City in which a cop killed an unarmed black man with an illegal chokehold. A huge part of the reason it has escalated to the current level is because the local police force decided to come out dressed like soldiers wanting to play war with American citizens. However, even that in itself wouldn’t translate into the historical significance I believe this event will ultimately hold.

I believe Ferguson will be seen as a major turning point. The point in which many well-intentioned, but incredibly naive folks in white mainstream America woke up to what we have become. Many people, particularly those in the media, have been willfully ignorant about the destruction of freedom and civil liberties in America. The events in Fergus have taken a gigantic mirror and successfully pointed it squarely at our civil society and the image it has reflected back is one of a horrific, militarized, authoritarian monster.

If it takes two reporters (one from the Washing Post and one from the Huffington Post) being unlawfully arrested to shake some sense into the privileged class in America, then so be it.

The only question now is, having been awakened from our blissful slumber to the sober nightmare that is reality, what are we going to do about it?

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As promised, here are some of my many articles warning of police militarization over the years:

19-Month-Old Toddler in Critical Condition After Cops Throw Flash Bang Grenade into Playpen

An Iowa City with a Population of 7,000 Will Receive Armored Military Vehicle

There are Over 50,000 SWAT Team Raids Annually in America

New Hampshire City Requests a Tank to Deal with “Domestic Terrorist” Groups Like Occupy Wall Street and Libertarians

Retired Marine Colonel to New Hampshire City Council: “We’re Building a Domestic Army”

Video of the Day – Thuggish Militarized Police Terrorize and SWAT Team Iowa Family

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Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:30 | 5095633 takeaction
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This is getting out of control. Watching the Portland Oregon feed from my house...Lots of people with bandanas covering their face.  This will not end well.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:32 | 5095651 junction
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On TV, it seems all the "talking head" experts who were former cops belong to a cult, listening to their bizarre interprestations of what is happening in Ferguson, Missouri.  These guys remind me of how characters in the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" describe Raymond Shaw: "Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."  The one real parallel to former cops maintaining a code of silence to police misconduct is the way the Catholic Church protected pedophiles until fairly recently.  Which makes you wonder, how many pedophile cops also got protection from prosecution as they enjoyed the thrill of molesting and gunning down teenagers?  

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:49 | 5095715 Anusocracy
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Neither the Occupy Wall Streeters nor the Tea Partyers are concerned about the size of government that they endorse.

As with most governments lovers, the other guys government is the bad government.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:53 | 5095734 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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Who's on top, Barry or Michelle?  Sorry i meant to say Barry or Reggie!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:32 | 5095866 markmotive
Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:39 | 5095893 Elvis the Pelvis
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Alex Jones thinks Michelle Obama is a tranny.  Just saying.  Bitchez.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:42 | 5095899 Troll Magnet
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Where the hell are all the militias when you really need'em?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:07 | 5095956 DoChenRollingBearing
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Nobody is coming to save you.

Nobody cares about you.

Nobody is going to give you anything.

* * * 

The best time to have planted a tree was 15 years ago.  The second best time is right now.

Prepare.  No one knows the timing, but there is much danger ahead.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:52 | 5096095 Overfed
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I love that Chinese proverb about the time to plant a tree.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:23 | 5096219 gh0atrider
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We understand the economy is collapsing.  We understand that Satoshi Nakamoto is our Red Sun our true saviour, the light, the path and the sphere for those walking in cryptosis.  We know the central bankers have few cards left to play.  We know that fonestar came with a message of peace and love to the Zeroheads and was ejected into darkness by Tyler Burden.  Please, accept gh0atrider as your new messenger... accept the path to supreme Satoshi Conciousness.  We will be handing out flowers at LAX tomorrow if you would like to join us.



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:40 | 5096374 Duffy
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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:51 | 5096379 chumbawamba
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BRAVO, Krieger.  You have redeemed yourself after that unadultered political hackery you spewed out a few days ago about Hillary claiming to be "dead broke" [at the time she left the Whitehouse with Billy] while vacationing in the Hamptons.

Let Hillary alone, no one cares about that stupid cunt anyway.  Keep writing stuff like this.

Good man.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:35 | 5096952 RaceToTheBottom
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I feel more secure of the training and mental stability of military warriors than I do of the training and mental stability of the local police.  

Not that over-reach and errors cannot occur on each, but war is known by reasonable people to be a large sword rather than a pocket knife.  

Local police should be more pocket knife than sword...  Local police does not do the sword well, and should not be asked to.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:11 | 5096128 El Oregonian
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Where is the Paul Revere of our time? Are there any other patriots out there who will stand in the gap?

Tonight I grab my lantern and take to warning our fellow citizens to prepare.

Stand together or hang separately. As for me, I will not kiss the hand of my oppressor's.

I am finally fed up and will not take it anymore.

May God intervene and raise a Righteous Army to defend His children who love him, especially during these most difficult dark and evil times.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:02 | 5096194 James_Cole
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May God intervene and raise a Righteous Army to defend His children who love him, especially during these most difficult dark and evil times.

It's an interesting crossroads, many things are going very wrong but it also seems like there's an unprecedented sea change in the works.  

Particularly interesting how much common ground I've been finding lately. I'd label myself very liberal - not conservative or libertarian - and somehow agree with almost everything Rand Paul says (not a fan of his father either). Noticed a lot of conservatives agreeing with liberal journalists and some left politicians too. Ten years ago this did not happen.

It seems social media (as much as I tend to dislike) has had some major positive impacts. Probably why net neutrality is being pushed so hard. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:04 | 5096334 zhandax
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I have quoted Chomsky here before as well as the insight derived from his writings that the political spectrum is not represented by a line, but by a circle which joins at the top; where the far ends of both right and left meet and government is considered unnecessary.. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:54 | 5096428 zerocash
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It's rather shaped like a horse shoe. The extremes are close but don't touch. Maybe one day they will go full circle.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:37 | 5096974 MachoMan
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I've never seen anything I considered to be a consistent and decent reconciliation of political beliefs represented in a chart other than a straight line.  The most important question regarding political beliefs is "do you believe in more or less government intervention."  If you want a strong governmental presence, then you are a liberal, if not, then a conservative.  Anarchists are the most conservative of the lot.  Once you try to utilize conservative and liberal to also denote moral stance on social issues, the terminology unravels.  For example, this is why virtually the entirety of our representatives are liberals, despite some being pro life or for the criminalization of drugs.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:57 | 5097109 dizzyfingers
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El Oregonian

Keep your head down, now is not the time. Too many opposing self interests today for any calls-to-arms or any actions at all. Gotta stay alive and well in order to change anything but changes come in baby steps not in "let's roll". Vote against all incumbents.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 17:54 | 5103069 zipit
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The problem with the world is too much "God rising up crap" is going on.  All you religious nutters need to calm the f down.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:10 | 5096286 mt paul
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old italian grandfather

use to plant a tree for every grandchild born

nice collection in the back yard

mine is a  Quercus palustris


pin oak 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 17:53 | 5103064 zipit
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Now is the 15th best time.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:26 | 5096225 gh0atrider
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Alex Jones thinks Michelle Obama is a tranny.  Just saying.  Bitchez.



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:08 | 5096290 janus
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no, no; fooogooou, gh0atrider...janus up-voted you when you had no friends (cause i luved me some fonstar...and was rueful that i hadn't bought bitcoin when first i opened my account...back when they were $1.34 a bit...goddamit, never remind one's self that one's sons need shoes when bitcoin @ 1.34 is on the line!).  but it's more than that, i saw talent in you, fonstar...you made me laugh -- and for that, i am to any man forever grateful.

as to Smith...i mean elvis the pelvis...janus was similarly his only friend way back when...i like his thing...he loves the Hedge...he doesn't want to clutter the thread with his multi-paragraphed & off-topic thoughts...i see it as manners...he's not selling water-filters...he's earnest same as you, gh0atrider -- atrocious though you may be. 

cheers to you, elvis the pelvis...and may God's Blessings shield and guide the Smith family, way out in some soviet tenement east-wise:


where else can we go?,


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:20 | 5096298 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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That is one of many reasons only fringe groups take Alex Jones seriously.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:59 | 5096383 Tall Tom
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Yeah. It is like ONLY the fags taking Barry Obama and his husband Michael Obama seriously.


Yeah. You are right. I have to agree.


(One good ad hominem deserves another...right? There is absolutely no other persons but fags that will take Obama seriously, right? There is absolutely nobody who does not belong to a "Fringe Group" that will take Alex Jones seriously, right?)


Yo may have fooled someone else, and yourself, that this is the case. (Two uparrows)


But YOUR DISHONEST use of Rhetoric will not fly here on this Comment Board.


It only served to damage YOUR CREDIBILITY. In fact it domonstrated that you lack credibility.




Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:27 | 5096406 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Unintentional comedy at its finest.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:33 | 5096440 oudinot
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Calling Obama a ,'fag',, Michelle a tranny, is that all you've got?

Say something coherent or blab your insensitive inanities to the 30 stray cats that are messing up your house.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 10:10 | 5096498 Escrava Isaura
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Tall Tom,

This post by Krieger, and many of the comments, so far, are very good. Pretty good, actually.

I am sorry to say but, your post is disturbing.

I read some of your stuff and it’s obvious you’re an extremely smart person. Why you chose this approach is beyond me.

I just wonder if you had a chance to read: American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America.


And here is why of my comment:

People here are expecting this to be a quick reset and things will go back to normal. Wrong!

These are more likely:

1) The Long Descent: The End of the Industrial Age – By Greer

2) The revolution will come from inside the church. They have the organization for such actions. However, their leaders are demagogues that will go for quick solutions, thus feeding even more the anxiety.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:23 | 5096502 overmedicatedun...
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right wing radio? I listen because they pretend to give us News, and they do - topics NYT and MSM avoid, IRS thugs for one, but there is a line they do not dare cross,- they cannot speak against the mega corps and banksters (the real power along with traitorous groups like CFR )..today you need to weed thru many  so called news sites to get even a glimpse of what was real news at one time..then there is ZH. Obuma has tried to cull them, because elite groups do war for power, and the real backers of obuma, would be happy not having to react to the right wing radio...trust nothing.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:56 | 5095744 A Lunatic
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Occupy your mind.........

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:27 | 5096230 gh0atrider
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No thanks.  gh0atrider's mind is an empty crucible and Satoshi fills my mind with light anew every morning 00:00 hrs 1970.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 11:21 | 5097483 Weisshaupt
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Haven't been to a Tea Party meeting have you?  Of course they care. They want a smaller and cheaper govt  limited in  its powers by the original meanings of the Constitution because  the only meaning that has the consent of the American people is the original along with duly passed amendments.

OWS will never go for that of course, because they "believe in" a government that enslaves some to provide for others -  and a govt powerful enough to do that is a government that coporations will always be able to corrupt. If your philopshy is "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" you need a big government because only a big government can assert that sort of totalitarian control.  Its baked into the socialist cake really - the pigs ALWAYS move into the Farmhouse - the pigs may be corporation cronies,  a special interest group of individuals ( non-contributing zeros) , or a corrupt politcal class. OWS doesn't want an end to corruption and the opportunities for graft - they simply want to be the beneficiaries of the criminal enterprise instead  of the current set of cronies.


Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:54 | 5095740 BeetleBailey
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"Which makes you wonder, how many pedophile cops also got protection from prosecution as they enjoyed the thrill of molesting and gunning down teenagers?"


Every down arrow you get from your post is from a pedo-cop, former pedo cop, idiots douche bag with no sense of anything, and people that have nothing to reply swith - intelligently, so they just click and snort and fart.


Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:01 | 5095770 NoDebt
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Wait.  What?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:23 | 5095841 Urban Roman
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There. Down arrow.

Because ZeroHedge.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:52 | 5096184 MsCreant
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There. Up arrow.

Because ZeroHedge.

Rhyme does not need to reason. Reason need not rhyme.

Fight club Bitchez.


Fellow Bitch(ez)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:19 | 5096303 janus
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you've got spunk (always had it), and you're just too sexy, MsCreant...imagine, right now, janus reaching out to light your cigarette -- and then taking yours to kindle mine.

now let's exhale...

feels right; don't it?


slow like honey/

heavy with mood,




Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:50 | 5095926 McMolotov
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Not sure about pedophile cops, but I do know that when I was growing up, the father of one of my classmates was high up in the department, and it was an open secret that he re-sold confiscated narcotics. In many ways, the police have become a form of legalized organized crime, if that makes any sense.

People who think otherwise are simply unaware of how widespread the corruption has become.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:01 | 5096193 MsCreant
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I still think there are good cops out there. I feel really, really, bad for them.

Meanwhile, the trend is not our friend. This authoritarianism streak in these guys is getting too much reward.

I will judge individuals as I always have.

Funny story. My teen son was at another kid's house. They thought they heard gunshots (turned out to be fireworks). My son (a little bit too much of a Dudley-do-right, I am both thrilled and worried about this) immeadiately wanted to call the police. The male authority figure in the room looked at my son and said "Never call the cops." My son came home and told me that story with wonderment. Opened up a great conversation.

Some of those Dudley-do-rights grew up and became cops and just want it to be fair and right. I love those guys and want desperately to have their backs and support them.

The other fucktards can go fight Obama's, Bush's, and whoever "really's" wars.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:23 | 5096305 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Only in America. It's hardly a surprise your country is in such a confused - if not schizophrenic - state.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 08:21 | 5096628 Tarheel
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America is not is a total state of disarray, altho we do have an unintelligent president at our helm who stokes the fires of racism every chance he gets.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:51 | 5096423 RafterManFMJ
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I still think there are good Unicorns out there, and they just want to grant me 7 wishes.

I'm not sure what a 'good cop' would do? Turn in his fellows for their corruption? Last one I remember doing that ended up burned alive.

Da PoPo evolved out of the enforcers from company mining towns, and modern police practices were imported from the English occupation practices in Ireland, metastasized in NYC and then went National.

Again, just what is a good cop? One that just fines you 300 bucks for a speeding ticket instead of 500 and points?

One that only shoots you once instead of mag dumping?

It's difficult to reject your programing; most Americans will still be worshipping the police as they are gassed, burned out of their homes, and loaded into Amtrak cattle cars.

Any creature that steals from you every time he cashes a paycheck is immoral. I signed NOTHING that gives anyone the right to steal from me and then use my own money to further encroach and and dismantle my liberties.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:54 | 5096570 SWRichmond
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Any creature that steals from you every time he cashes a paycheck is immoral. I signed NOTHING that gives anyone the right to steal from me and then use my own money to further encroach and and dismantle my liberties.


Ms.: I too want to believe there are good cops, but their slience through all of this betrays them.  If the "good cops" can't or won't fix this, and we have to, then so be it, but they can expect no special consideration from me when it's over.  Ever see the movie "A Few Good Men"?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:30 | 5096521 SofaPapa
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'Good' vs. 'Bad' I think isn't necessarily very helpful, because each of us, as individuals, is convinced we are good.  I agree with you completely that it is individuals where judgement needs to lie, and that it is individuals who need to be discovered and brought to justice for their crimes against the rest of us, who want only to be left alone to live our lives in peace.

But rather than good vs. bad, we need to define what is the mindset that is making these men and women, who view themselves as 'good', do things that 95% of us consider to be horrific.  And the answer is neither new nor original, but I think it needs to be sorted out from the other trends in society and given the focus it deserves.

This is 'corporate collective thinking'.  Again, I claim no original thinking here at all. This is just a restatement of what has been said here on ZH and in some other venues millions of times.  The only point I want to make is that among all the other trends in our society (breakup of the family, imperial US, breakdown of the education system, schools, healthcare, etc, etc), this corporate collective thinking is the root cause of every single other one of these trends.  They are all just derivatives.  As long as people think it is correct that large faceless entities are the appropriate mode for getting our food, for educating our children, for acting as intermediaries for our communication, our transportation, our healthcare, and every other aspect of our lives, we will continue to slide into the ongoing hell we are witnessing.  Large collections of human beings in both the "private" sector - corporations - and in the "public" sector - government - don't give a damn about us as individuals.  People need to absorb the reality of that.  I repeat, large organizations can never, by their very nature, care about individuals.  And every human being is an individual.  Thus this system works for nobody. Even the people who "run" these monstrosities are being caught up and chewed up and destroyed by the leviathans they are "running".

What to do? Stop feeding them.  The two foods for these machines are money, for the corporations, and votes, for the politicians.  The far more important of the two is money.  As individuals, we need to become very conscious of where we spend that which represents our personal work and energy.  Find other individuals, other human beings, who provide whatever service or item we are looking for.  If there is a person who has the tool we are looking for, buy it from that person, not from some chain connected to the US-China circle jerk.  When we want food, find a family that makes food (there are still small family-owned restaurants around, we don't need to go to eat corporate poison...for now).  When we shop for staples, find markets where individuals gather to sell what they themselves have grown and raised.  In every transaction, look for a human being to transact with.

As to votes, until corporations are conquered, votes at a national level have sadly become meaningless, as all candidates on a ballot are pre-screened through the corporate fundraising process to assure corporate interests.

Long story short, let's start working to reconnect to each other as individuals and human beings again.  We do not need to interact through the screen of these huge faceless bureaucracies, both 'private' and 'public'.  With every substitution of an individual interaction for a corporate one, the world will improve.  I'm sure of it.

It's an ideal and a dream, but what can I say, I'm a dreamer.  Good luck to us all.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 08:42 | 5096694 Svener
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SofaPapa!  We check this blog at work for a good laugh.  You try to put some reason and thinking in this mix you just mess up a good laugh.  And we were having so much fun.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:51 | 5097066 MachoMan
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You're barking up the wrong tree.  Corporations are just a legal fiction of individual(s)[you can actually have a single shareholder corporation under most state laws].  What you're describing as corporate behavior is what I consider to be more simply, human behavior.  The pooled/entrenched resources available to these corporations are likewise available to their individual owners should the corporation be dismantled...  from a consolidation of power standpoint, the dismantling of corporations is not going to yield the result you want.  The cow is out of the barn...  so too is the fundamental notion of self interest as a staple of humanity.  It's here and we're stuck with it.  Thus far, there is no answer.

However, that said, the way that best organizes us in a fashion that corrales our self interest into productivity for the common good is likely our best alternative.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 10:32 | 5097378 SofaPapa
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Sounds like a question of semantics to me.  You're right in that I have used the word corporation to describe the behavior that I am talking about, and I also agree with you that this is an element of humanity on a deeper level than the legal description of a company.  For that reason, I am not suggesting dismantling corporations.  That suggests a frontal attack.  No, what is required is a far more subtle and fundamental shift in human behavior. Don't attack them, simply don't depend on them, don't support them (to the greatest extent possible), and don't look to them as solutions to our problems.

This train of thought came about because I saw someone commenting on HuffPo about how the solution to Ferguson was for the federal government to step in.  That to me is the blindest of simpleminded responses.  Because one non-responsive organization is abusing you, you invite in another, even bigger, more faceless organization?  I realize this is what humans have done for millenia, and as I said, to change it is probably just fantasy, but if we don't start moving the direction of becoming individuals again and not just parts in these big machines, I don't really see our species going much further before destroying ourselves.

Back to work...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 11:14 | 5097697 MachoMan
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Demanding to change fundamental human behavior is like demanding to keep out the tide.  All we can do is to try and incentivize the behavior that we desire and hope for the best, while keeping a close eye on the "unintended consequences" of our inter-meddling.

Further, centralization and decentralization is just a cycle, within cycles, within cycles...  an ebb and flow back and forth.  Resources/utilization/logistics is already demanding decentralization...  eventually, we'll head back the other way about the time we forget our last folly.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:11 | 5096205 JuliaS
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Just like the banks, law enforcement is a wealth transfer organization. The crime is illegal but profitable business. Cops provide the legal means of enriching lawmakers indirectly through criminal activities conducted by someone else. They allow robing of law abiding person A by law breaking and punishment bearing person B for the benefit of law making person C.who collects all the procedes of A's economic activity without sharing any risks taken by B when extracting the profit.

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