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Ferguson, Bundy Ranch, & 'Dancing The Night Away' With The Obamas

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

“My administration has been closely monitoring the situation in Egypt, and I know that we will be learning more tomorrow when day breaks.  As the situation continues to unfold, our first concern is preventing injury or loss of life.  So I want to be very clear in calling upon the Egyptian authorities to refrain from any violence against peaceful protestors.


The people of Egypt have rights that are universal.  That includes the right to peaceful assembly and association, the right to free speech, and the ability to determine their own destiny.  These are human rights.  And the United States will stand up for them everywhere.”


- U.S. President Barack Obama, January 28, 2011 (official statement here).

The events in Ferguson, Missouri went from what could have been just another all too common and tragic incident in which an unarmed black man is killed by an overly aggressive and unprofessional police force, to what may be a historically significant event in American history. So how did this transformation occur and what does it mean going forward? Those are the two questions I intend to address in this post.

There are two primary factors that have collided to create the current out of control situation in a suburb roughly 15 miles northwest of St. Louis, which before this past weekend, almost no one had ever heard of. The first factor is the underlying tension in American society that I have been writing about for several years now. Nowhere is this tension more apparent than in the minority majority inner cities or their outskirts. Being a privileged person, I have thankfully never experienced the dehumanization and oppression felt by so many in these disenfranchised communities, but I can still understand the fact that these neighborhoods are ground zero in the civil unrest that is likely to continue into the foreseeable future.

The second factor is the entirely inappropriate and dangerous militarization of police forces throughout these United States. While extreme tension between impoverished communities and the police has been well documented for decades and expressed through music and movies (I grew up with NWA’s Fuck Tha Police and Colors), the cops were generally speaking merely men and women driving around in patrol cars with guns and batons. Not to dismiss the violence that can and has been inflicted through those means, but the police in recent years have taken things to a whole new frightening level: Total Militarization.

I consider this trend to be such an existential threat to freedom and civil liberties that I have expended a considerable deal of time and energy over the past several years highlighting it. I have covered the topic too many times to list here (I will provide a compilation at the end of this post), but there is one in particular I want to mention. The post was published two months ago and was titled: The Militarization of Police Continues…Machine Guns, Grenade Launchers, Silencers and More. In it I quoted the following from a New York Times article:

During the Obama administration, according to Pentagon data, police departments have received tens of thousands of machine guns; nearly 200,000 ammunition magazines; thousands of pieces of camouflage and night-vision equipment; and hundreds of silencers, armored cars and aircraft.


The equipment has been added to the armories of police departments that already look and act like military units. Police SWAT teams are now deployed tens of thousands of times each year, increasingly for routine jobs. Masked, heavily armed police officers in Louisiana raided a nightclub in 2006 as part of a liquor inspection. In Florida in 2010, officers in SWAT gear and with guns drawn carried out raids on barbershops that mostly led only to charges of “barbering without a license.”

I then concluded the post with the following observation:

Of all the bad ideas currently being implemented in these United States, turning the police into soldiers is certainly near the top of the list.

Indeed, and we are now reaping some of the rewards from this absurd and fascist policy. One that must be reversed immediately. If you think I or others may be exaggerating the threat here, think again. Social media and the internet generally is filled with veterans reacting in horror at what they are seeing unfold domestically. Here are two of the most powerful tweets I came across:



At this point I’d like to remind everyone that crime in the U.S. has been dropping since the 1990′s. So why has domestic police force militarization been growing exponentially since then? Ostensibly, it is for the “war on terror” and to keep us safe. In reality, we know this is bullshit. Just like the NSA’s constitutional spying hasn’t stopped a single terrorist attack, turning local cops into a domestic army hasn’t done a single thing to make us safe.To the contrary, it is creating an environment where the general public harbors increased resentment and skepticism toward police, and the police view the citizenry as the “enemy.” This takes the societal tinderbox that already exists and makes it downright explosive. Ferguson is just the latest example of the tension bubbling to the surface, but there will likely be many more in the future.

While the above exposes the excuse for militarization for the lie it is, it doesn’t answer the question. As I have maintained for years now, I believe all police state activities, from NSA surveillance to the militarization of the police, is a entirely deliberate program being implemented by the status quo (oligarchs, Wall Street, politicians, intelligence agencies, etc) to put in place a police state ahead of the civil unrest and dissent they know is coming. How do they know it’s coming? Simple. They know better than anyone else the extent of their collective theft and lawlessness and they know full well domestic blowback is coming. They are just getting geared up ahead of time.

So where do we go from here? What does all this mean and can we expect more of this in the future? One of the more disturbing aspects of this entire affair, particularly to the black community, must be President Barack Obama’s complete indifference to the entire incident. He had been pretty much silent on the entire thing, yet Principal Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz found the time to release the following statement last night updating the world on…Obama’s vacation. Here’s the official press briefing:

Tonight, the President and First Lady attended the birthday celebration for Mrs. Ann Jordan at an event at the Farm Neck Golf Club. There were approximately 150 guests in attendance.


Among the attendees seated with the Jordans and the President and First Lady were former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Valerie Jarrett and her mother Mrs. Barbara Bowman, Ursula Burns, Kenneth Chenault and his wife Kathy, along with other friends and family of Mrs. Jordan. President Obama honored Mrs. Jordan with a toast before dinner, as did Mr. Jordan and Secretary Clinton and others. The President and First Lady have known the Jordans for over twenty years, and were grateful to have been able to share this special evening with them.


The President and First Lady also were happy to have the chance to spend time with Secretary Clinton and former President Clinton.


A little color: in his toast for Mrs. Jordan, President quipped that he met Vernon and first, but liked Ann more. The menu consisted of surf and turf and pasta. The Obamas danced nearly every song. A good time was had by all.

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Glad you had such a fun time as the death of American civil society was being broadcast to the world. I’m dying to know. How was the lobster? More importantly, compare Obama’s apathy toward what is happening in Ferguson to his impassioned expression of support he officially voiced toward the protesters in Egypt. It’s quite telling to see how much more interested he is in the freedom of people halfway across the world than within his own nation. That’s all you really need to know.

*Note: Since writing this piece, Obama has made his first public statement on Ferguson (see here). Apparently he is doing damage control after his dance party press release last night. What I find so interesting is how he first calls for calm on behalf of the protesters and then afterward addresses the police. Compare that to his statements on Egypt at the top.

At this point I want to make a comparison that relatively few people have zeroed in on. The similarities between the Bundy Ranch confrontation earlier this year and the unrest in Ferguson. While the superficial differences are stark (one group being white, rural and likely relatively well off, with the other being black, urban and poor), I believe the root cause of the unrest is more similar than you might think. There is seething anger at what is correctly perceived to be oppression and authoritarianism on behalf of the “status quo.” The key distinction here is that poor, black, urban communities have been dealing with this for generations, while it has only more recently targeted its sights on formerly middle-class white communities. This makes for an absolutely explosive situation going forward as the looting and pillaging of the power structure continues without repercussions for the offenders. So why am I bringing up the comparison to the Bundy Ranch in the first place? Because I don’t want Americans to be divided and conquered further based on false superficial differences. All of us as citizens are involved in a monumental struggle not against each other, but against the status quo. The quicker we recognize this, the quicker we can deal with the real problem. Very early on, I attempted to focus on the similarities between the the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street so that those two movements could join forces. I highlighted the following graphic whenever possible:

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Although we are now starting to see libertarians and progressives unite in Congress on some very important issues such as domestic surveillance, the demonization of each others’ movements by both sides as somehow less pure or enlightened than the other prevented a much wider and united action for social and economic justice. It was a huge missed opportunity and I don’t want this to happen again. The Bundy Ranch affair and the unrest in Ferguson, Missouri should be seen as two sides of the same coin. The American public finally getting fed up with the authoritarianism of the corrupt status quo. One of my most popular posts of 2014 was the piece on the Bundy Ranch titled: Why the Standoff at the Bundy Ranch is a Very Big Deal. I concluded that piece with the following:

However, my long-term fear is that unless the government and its puppet masters on Wall Street and elsewhere in big business change course, social upheaval will prove inevitable, whether the Bundy Ranch sparks it, or some other incident down the road. These are troubled times and they are likely going to get worse before they get better.

We are seeing some of what I feared back then play out in Missouri right now. I found the following tweet to be extremely powerful and poignant:



The last point I want to address is the historical significance I think Ferguson will ultimately command. This could’ve simply been an incident such as the one recently in New York City in which a cop killed an unarmed black man with an illegal chokehold. A huge part of the reason it has escalated to the current level is because the local police force decided to come out dressed like soldiers wanting to play war with American citizens. However, even that in itself wouldn’t translate into the historical significance I believe this event will ultimately hold.

I believe Ferguson will be seen as a major turning point. The point in which many well-intentioned, but incredibly naive folks in white mainstream America woke up to what we have become. Many people, particularly those in the media, have been willfully ignorant about the destruction of freedom and civil liberties in America. The events in Fergus have taken a gigantic mirror and successfully pointed it squarely at our civil society and the image it has reflected back is one of a horrific, militarized, authoritarian monster.

If it takes two reporters (one from the Washing Post and one from the Huffington Post) being unlawfully arrested to shake some sense into the privileged class in America, then so be it.

The only question now is, having been awakened from our blissful slumber to the sober nightmare that is reality, what are we going to do about it?

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As promised, here are some of my many articles warning of police militarization over the years:

19-Month-Old Toddler in Critical Condition After Cops Throw Flash Bang Grenade into Playpen

An Iowa City with a Population of 7,000 Will Receive Armored Military Vehicle

There are Over 50,000 SWAT Team Raids Annually in America

New Hampshire City Requests a Tank to Deal with “Domestic Terrorist” Groups Like Occupy Wall Street and Libertarians

Retired Marine Colonel to New Hampshire City Council: “We’re Building a Domestic Army”

Video of the Day – Thuggish Militarized Police Terrorize and SWAT Team Iowa Family


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Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:30 | 5095633 takeaction
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This is getting out of control. Watching the Portland Oregon feed from my house...Lots of people with bandanas covering their face.  This will not end well.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:32 | 5095651 junction
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On TV, it seems all the "talking head" experts who were former cops belong to a cult, listening to their bizarre interprestations of what is happening in Ferguson, Missouri.  These guys remind me of how characters in the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" describe Raymond Shaw: "Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."  The one real parallel to former cops maintaining a code of silence to police misconduct is the way the Catholic Church protected pedophiles until fairly recently.  Which makes you wonder, how many pedophile cops also got protection from prosecution as they enjoyed the thrill of molesting and gunning down teenagers?  

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:49 | 5095715 Anusocracy
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Neither the Occupy Wall Streeters nor the Tea Partyers are concerned about the size of government that they endorse.

As with most governments lovers, the other guys government is the bad government.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:53 | 5095734 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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Who's on top, Barry or Michelle?  Sorry i meant to say Barry or Reggie!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:32 | 5095866 markmotive
Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:39 | 5095893 Elvis the Pelvis
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Alex Jones thinks Michelle Obama is a tranny.  Just saying.  Bitchez.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:42 | 5095899 Troll Magnet
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Where the hell are all the militias when you really need'em?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:07 | 5095956 DoChenRollingBearing
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Nobody is coming to save you.

Nobody cares about you.

Nobody is going to give you anything.

* * * 

The best time to have planted a tree was 15 years ago.  The second best time is right now.

Prepare.  No one knows the timing, but there is much danger ahead.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:52 | 5096095 Overfed
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I love that Chinese proverb about the time to plant a tree.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:23 | 5096219 gh0atrider
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We understand the economy is collapsing.  We understand that Satoshi Nakamoto is our Red Sun our true saviour, the light, the path and the sphere for those walking in cryptosis.  We know the central bankers have few cards left to play.  We know that fonestar came with a message of peace and love to the Zeroheads and was ejected into darkness by Tyler Burden.  Please, accept gh0atrider as your new messenger... accept the path to supreme Satoshi Conciousness.  We will be handing out flowers at LAX tomorrow if you would like to join us.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:40 | 5096374 Duffy
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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:04 | 5096478 negative rates
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It means ur fucked, the Federals beliefs have fucked the world over, and they don't want to talk about it, they know they are right cause of all the money have.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:51 | 5096379 chumbawamba
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BRAVO, Krieger.  You have redeemed yourself after that unadultered political hackery you spewed out a few days ago about Hillary claiming to be "dead broke" [at the time she left the Whitehouse with Billy] while vacationing in the Hamptons.

Let Hillary alone, no one cares about that stupid cunt anyway.  Keep writing stuff like this.

Good man.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:35 | 5096952 RaceToTheBottom
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I feel more secure of the training and mental stability of military warriors than I do of the training and mental stability of the local police.  

Not that over-reach and errors cannot occur on each, but war is known by reasonable people to be a large sword rather than a pocket knife.  

Local police should be more pocket knife than sword...  Local police does not do the sword well, and should not be asked to.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:07 | 5096480 negative rates
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You ever think about getting one of those store bought brains?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:11 | 5096128 El Oregonian
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Where is the Paul Revere of our time? Are there any other patriots out there who will stand in the gap?

Tonight I grab my lantern and take to warning our fellow citizens to prepare.

Stand together or hang separately. As for me, I will not kiss the hand of my oppressor's.

I am finally fed up and will not take it anymore.

May God intervene and raise a Righteous Army to defend His children who love him, especially during these most difficult dark and evil times.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:02 | 5096194 James_Cole
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May God intervene and raise a Righteous Army to defend His children who love him, especially during these most difficult dark and evil times.

It's an interesting crossroads, many things are going very wrong but it also seems like there's an unprecedented sea change in the works.  

Particularly interesting how much common ground I've been finding lately. I'd label myself very liberal - not conservative or libertarian - and somehow agree with almost everything Rand Paul says (not a fan of his father either). Noticed a lot of conservatives agreeing with liberal journalists and some left politicians too. Ten years ago this did not happen.

It seems social media (as much as I tend to dislike) has had some major positive impacts. Probably why net neutrality is being pushed so hard. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:04 | 5096334 zhandax
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I have quoted Chomsky here before as well as the insight derived from his writings that the political spectrum is not represented by a line, but by a circle which joins at the top; where the far ends of both right and left meet and government is considered unnecessary.. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:54 | 5096428 zerocash
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It's rather shaped like a horse shoe. The extremes are close but don't touch. Maybe one day they will go full circle.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:13 | 5096487 negative rates
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I use more horseshoes than circles, and i'm almost completely done.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:12 | 5096486 negative rates
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Yes, but can he make the pain go away? I mean really go away, not some refined drug temporary numbness, I don't think he can.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:37 | 5096974 MachoMan
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I've never seen anything I considered to be a consistent and decent reconciliation of political beliefs represented in a chart other than a straight line.  The most important question regarding political beliefs is "do you believe in more or less government intervention."  If you want a strong governmental presence, then you are a liberal, if not, then a conservative.  Anarchists are the most conservative of the lot.  Once you try to utilize conservative and liberal to also denote moral stance on social issues, the terminology unravels.  For example, this is why virtually the entirety of our representatives are liberals, despite some being pro life or for the criminalization of drugs.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:57 | 5097109 dizzyfingers
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El Oregonian

Keep your head down, now is not the time. Too many opposing self interests today for any calls-to-arms or any actions at all. Gotta stay alive and well in order to change anything but changes come in baby steps not in "let's roll". Vote against all incumbents.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 17:54 | 5103069 zipit
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The problem with the world is too much "God rising up crap" is going on.  All you religious nutters need to calm the f down.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:10 | 5096286 mt paul
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old italian grandfather

use to plant a tree for every grandchild born

nice collection in the back yard

mine is a  Quercus palustris


pin oak 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 17:53 | 5103064 zipit
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Now is the 15th best time.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:26 | 5096225 gh0atrider
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Alex Jones thinks Michelle Obama is a tranny.  Just saying.  Bitchez.



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:08 | 5096290 janus
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no, no; fooogooou, gh0atrider...janus up-voted you when you had no friends (cause i luved me some fonstar...and was rueful that i hadn't bought bitcoin when first i opened my account...back when they were $1.34 a bit...goddamit, never remind one's self that one's sons need shoes when bitcoin @ 1.34 is on the line!).  but it's more than that, i saw talent in you, made me laugh -- and for that, i am to any man forever grateful.

as to Smith...i mean elvis the pelvis...janus was similarly his only friend way back when...i like his thing...he loves the Hedge...he doesn't want to clutter the thread with his multi-paragraphed & off-topic thoughts...i see it as manners...he's not selling water-filters...he's earnest same as you, gh0atrider -- atrocious though you may be. 

cheers to you, elvis the pelvis...and may God's Blessings shield and guide the Smith family, way out in some soviet tenement east-wise:

where else can we go?,


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:20 | 5096298 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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That is one of many reasons only fringe groups take Alex Jones seriously.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:59 | 5096383 Tall Tom
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Yeah. It is like ONLY the fags taking Barry Obama and his husband Michael Obama seriously.


Yeah. You are right. I have to agree.


(One good ad hominem deserves another...right? There is absolutely no other persons but fags that will take Obama seriously, right? There is absolutely nobody who does not belong to a "Fringe Group" that will take Alex Jones seriously, right?)


Yo may have fooled someone else, and yourself, that this is the case. (Two uparrows)


But YOUR DISHONEST use of Rhetoric will not fly here on this Comment Board.


It only served to damage YOUR CREDIBILITY. In fact it domonstrated that you lack credibility.




Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:27 | 5096406 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Unintentional comedy at its finest.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:33 | 5096440 oudinot
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Calling Obama a ,'fag',, Michelle a tranny, is that all you've got?

Say something coherent or blab your insensitive inanities to the 30 stray cats that are messing up your house.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 10:10 | 5096498 Escrava Isaura
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Tall Tom,

This post by Krieger, and many of the comments, so far, are very good. Pretty good, actually.

I am sorry to say but, your post is disturbing.

I read some of your stuff and it’s obvious you’re an extremely smart person. Why you chose this approach is beyond me.

I just wonder if you had a chance to read: American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America.

And here is why of my comment:

People here are expecting this to be a quick reset and things will go back to normal. Wrong!

These are more likely:

1) The Long Descent: The End of the Industrial Age – By Greer

2) The revolution will come from inside the church. They have the organization for such actions. However, their leaders are demagogues that will go for quick solutions, thus feeding even more the anxiety.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:23 | 5096502 overmedicatedun...
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right wing radio? I listen because they pretend to give us News, and they do - topics NYT and MSM avoid, IRS thugs for one, but there is a line they do not dare cross,- they cannot speak against the mega corps and banksters (the real power along with traitorous groups like CFR ) you need to weed thru many  so called news sites to get even a glimpse of what was real news at one time..then there is ZH. Obuma has tried to cull them, because elite groups do war for power, and the real backers of obuma, would be happy not having to react to the right wing nothing.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:56 | 5095744 A Lunatic
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Occupy your mind.........

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:27 | 5096230 gh0atrider
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No thanks.  gh0atrider's mind is an empty crucible and Satoshi fills my mind with light anew every morning 00:00 hrs 1970.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:21 | 5096497 negative rates
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Sometimes without him you must get edgey and irritable, and it's worse when you drink cause you always go over the limit and then have to pay the consequences, like passing out and aquiring altimers at an early age, boy are you a lucky person, just not so special.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 11:21 | 5097483 Weisshaupt
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Haven't been to a Tea Party meeting have you?  Of course they care. They want a smaller and cheaper govt  limited in  its powers by the original meanings of the Constitution because  the only meaning that has the consent of the American people is the original along with duly passed amendments.

OWS will never go for that of course, because they "believe in" a government that enslaves some to provide for others -  and a govt powerful enough to do that is a government that coporations will always be able to corrupt. If your philopshy is "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" you need a big government because only a big government can assert that sort of totalitarian control.  Its baked into the socialist cake really - the pigs ALWAYS move into the Farmhouse - the pigs may be corporation cronies,  a special interest group of individuals ( non-contributing zeros) , or a corrupt politcal class. OWS doesn't want an end to corruption and the opportunities for graft - they simply want to be the beneficiaries of the criminal enterprise instead  of the current set of cronies.


Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:54 | 5095740 BeetleBailey
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"Which makes you wonder, how many pedophile cops also got protection from prosecution as they enjoyed the thrill of molesting and gunning down teenagers?"


Every down arrow you get from your post is from a pedo-cop, former pedo cop, idiots douche bag with no sense of anything, and people that have nothing to reply swith - intelligently, so they just click and snort and fart.


Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:01 | 5095770 NoDebt
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Wait.  What?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:23 | 5095841 Urban Roman
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There. Down arrow.

Because ZeroHedge.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:52 | 5096184 MsCreant
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There. Up arrow.

Because ZeroHedge.

Rhyme does not need to reason. Reason need not rhyme.

Fight club Bitchez.


Fellow Bitch(ez)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:19 | 5096303 janus
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you've got spunk (always had it), and you're just too sexy, MsCreant...imagine, right now, janus reaching out to light your cigarette -- and then taking yours to kindle mine.

now let's exhale...

feels right; don't it?

slow like honey/

heavy with mood,




Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:50 | 5095926 McMolotov
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Not sure about pedophile cops, but I do know that when I was growing up, the father of one of my classmates was high up in the department, and it was an open secret that he re-sold confiscated narcotics. In many ways, the police have become a form of legalized organized crime, if that makes any sense.

People who think otherwise are simply unaware of how widespread the corruption has become.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:01 | 5096193 MsCreant
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I still think there are good cops out there. I feel really, really, bad for them.

Meanwhile, the trend is not our friend. This authoritarianism streak in these guys is getting too much reward.

I will judge individuals as I always have.

Funny story. My teen son was at another kid's house. They thought they heard gunshots (turned out to be fireworks). My son (a little bit too much of a Dudley-do-right, I am both thrilled and worried about this) immeadiately wanted to call the police. The male authority figure in the room looked at my son and said "Never call the cops." My son came home and told me that story with wonderment. Opened up a great conversation.

Some of those Dudley-do-rights grew up and became cops and just want it to be fair and right. I love those guys and want desperately to have their backs and support them.

The other fucktards can go fight Obama's, Bush's, and whoever "really's" wars.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:23 | 5096305 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Only in America. It's hardly a surprise your country is in such a confused - if not schizophrenic - state.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 08:21 | 5096628 Tarheel
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America is not is a total state of disarray, altho we do have an unintelligent president at our helm who stokes the fires of racism every chance he gets.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:51 | 5096423 RafterManFMJ
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I still think there are good Unicorns out there, and they just want to grant me 7 wishes.

I'm not sure what a 'good cop' would do? Turn in his fellows for their corruption? Last one I remember doing that ended up burned alive.

Da PoPo evolved out of the enforcers from company mining towns, and modern police practices were imported from the English occupation practices in Ireland, metastasized in NYC and then went National.

Again, just what is a good cop? One that just fines you 300 bucks for a speeding ticket instead of 500 and points?

One that only shoots you once instead of mag dumping?

It's difficult to reject your programing; most Americans will still be worshipping the police as they are gassed, burned out of their homes, and loaded into Amtrak cattle cars.

Any creature that steals from you every time he cashes a paycheck is immoral. I signed NOTHING that gives anyone the right to steal from me and then use my own money to further encroach and and dismantle my liberties.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:54 | 5096570 SWRichmond
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Any creature that steals from you every time he cashes a paycheck is immoral. I signed NOTHING that gives anyone the right to steal from me and then use my own money to further encroach and and dismantle my liberties.


Ms.: I too want to believe there are good cops, but their slience through all of this betrays them.  If the "good cops" can't or won't fix this, and we have to, then so be it, but they can expect no special consideration from me when it's over.  Ever see the movie "A Few Good Men"?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:30 | 5096521 SofaPapa
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'Good' vs. 'Bad' I think isn't necessarily very helpful, because each of us, as individuals, is convinced we are good.  I agree with you completely that it is individuals where judgement needs to lie, and that it is individuals who need to be discovered and brought to justice for their crimes against the rest of us, who want only to be left alone to live our lives in peace.

But rather than good vs. bad, we need to define what is the mindset that is making these men and women, who view themselves as 'good', do things that 95% of us consider to be horrific.  And the answer is neither new nor original, but I think it needs to be sorted out from the other trends in society and given the focus it deserves.

This is 'corporate collective thinking'.  Again, I claim no original thinking here at all. This is just a restatement of what has been said here on ZH and in some other venues millions of times.  The only point I want to make is that among all the other trends in our society (breakup of the family, imperial US, breakdown of the education system, schools, healthcare, etc, etc), this corporate collective thinking is the root cause of every single other one of these trends.  They are all just derivatives.  As long as people think it is correct that large faceless entities are the appropriate mode for getting our food, for educating our children, for acting as intermediaries for our communication, our transportation, our healthcare, and every other aspect of our lives, we will continue to slide into the ongoing hell we are witnessing.  Large collections of human beings in both the "private" sector - corporations - and in the "public" sector - government - don't give a damn about us as individuals.  People need to absorb the reality of that.  I repeat, large organizations can never, by their very nature, care about individuals.  And every human being is an individual.  Thus this system works for nobody. Even the people who "run" these monstrosities are being caught up and chewed up and destroyed by the leviathans they are "running".

What to do? Stop feeding them.  The two foods for these machines are money, for the corporations, and votes, for the politicians.  The far more important of the two is money.  As individuals, we need to become very conscious of where we spend that which represents our personal work and energy.  Find other individuals, other human beings, who provide whatever service or item we are looking for.  If there is a person who has the tool we are looking for, buy it from that person, not from some chain connected to the US-China circle jerk.  When we want food, find a family that makes food (there are still small family-owned restaurants around, we don't need to go to eat corporate poison...for now).  When we shop for staples, find markets where individuals gather to sell what they themselves have grown and raised.  In every transaction, look for a human being to transact with.

As to votes, until corporations are conquered, votes at a national level have sadly become meaningless, as all candidates on a ballot are pre-screened through the corporate fundraising process to assure corporate interests.

Long story short, let's start working to reconnect to each other as individuals and human beings again.  We do not need to interact through the screen of these huge faceless bureaucracies, both 'private' and 'public'.  With every substitution of an individual interaction for a corporate one, the world will improve.  I'm sure of it.

It's an ideal and a dream, but what can I say, I'm a dreamer.  Good luck to us all.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 08:42 | 5096694 Svener
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SofaPapa!  We check this blog at work for a good laugh.  You try to put some reason and thinking in this mix you just mess up a good laugh.  And we were having so much fun.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:51 | 5097066 MachoMan
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You're barking up the wrong tree.  Corporations are just a legal fiction of individual(s)[you can actually have a single shareholder corporation under most state laws].  What you're describing as corporate behavior is what I consider to be more simply, human behavior.  The pooled/entrenched resources available to these corporations are likewise available to their individual owners should the corporation be dismantled...  from a consolidation of power standpoint, the dismantling of corporations is not going to yield the result you want.  The cow is out of the barn...  so too is the fundamental notion of self interest as a staple of humanity.  It's here and we're stuck with it.  Thus far, there is no answer.

However, that said, the way that best organizes us in a fashion that corrales our self interest into productivity for the common good is likely our best alternative.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 10:32 | 5097378 SofaPapa
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Sounds like a question of semantics to me.  You're right in that I have used the word corporation to describe the behavior that I am talking about, and I also agree with you that this is an element of humanity on a deeper level than the legal description of a company.  For that reason, I am not suggesting dismantling corporations.  That suggests a frontal attack.  No, what is required is a far more subtle and fundamental shift in human behavior. Don't attack them, simply don't depend on them, don't support them (to the greatest extent possible), and don't look to them as solutions to our problems.

This train of thought came about because I saw someone commenting on HuffPo about how the solution to Ferguson was for the federal government to step in.  That to me is the blindest of simpleminded responses.  Because one non-responsive organization is abusing you, you invite in another, even bigger, more faceless organization?  I realize this is what humans have done for millenia, and as I said, to change it is probably just fantasy, but if we don't start moving the direction of becoming individuals again and not just parts in these big machines, I don't really see our species going much further before destroying ourselves.

Back to work...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 11:14 | 5097697 MachoMan
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Demanding to change fundamental human behavior is like demanding to keep out the tide.  All we can do is to try and incentivize the behavior that we desire and hope for the best, while keeping a close eye on the "unintended consequences" of our inter-meddling.

Further, centralization and decentralization is just a cycle, within cycles, within cycles...  an ebb and flow back and forth.  Resources/utilization/logistics is already demanding decentralization...  eventually, we'll head back the other way about the time we forget our last folly.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:11 | 5096205 JuliaS
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Just like the banks, law enforcement is a wealth transfer organization. The crime is illegal but profitable business. Cops provide the legal means of enriching lawmakers indirectly through criminal activities conducted by someone else. They allow robing of law abiding person A by law breaking and punishment bearing person B for the benefit of law making person C.who collects all the procedes of A's economic activity without sharing any risks taken by B when extracting the profit.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:23 | 5096509 negative rates
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Yea, I always woundered who delieved those pots of gold too.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 08:21 | 5096633 sleigher
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" it was an open secret that he re-sold confiscated narcotics"

The undercover that lived in my old neighborhood used to bring home the pot for the local potheads, the confiscated bikes for his kids, and other confiscated items, well, because he could.  I was the only one who was happy when their department was shut by the police chief and he was sent back to wearing a uniform.  Scumbag...  Glad I moved away from those people.  

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:09 | 5095785 Blazed
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Or the raping Rabbis and their hive collective protecting them.


"Rabbi Rosenberg believes around half of young males in Brooklyn’s Hasidic community—the largest in the United States and one of the largest in the world—have been victims of sexual assault perpetrated by their elders. Ben Hirsch, director of Survivors for Justice, a Brooklyn organization that advocates for Orthodox sex abuse victims, thinks the real number is higher. “From anecdotal evidence, we’re looking at over 50 percent. It has almost become a rite of passage.”

Long list of Jewish Child Molestor Rabbis

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:35 | 5095879 Oldwood
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Let's see the numbers. How many cops have got off? How many cops have been murdered? How many protestors at the Bundy ranch looted a Walmart or burned anything? How many people who were under attack or near to it wanted the cops to go home? Yes we are seeing a militarization of cops at the same time as we are pushing economic justice themes and a destruction of our economy. We are watching a civil war being created and lines being drawn. I do not live in the ghetto and will defend my property with or without the help of the militant police. It's those of us in the middle that will take the biggest hit. The ghetto folks will see more Obama bucks come pouring in to compensate for damages while the oppressive government only grows.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:36 | 5095666 TeamDepends
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This is the winter we feared.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:24 | 5095842 Rusty Shorts
Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:45 | 5095909 ThroxxOfVron
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It's still relatively peaceful on the streets of the United States.

When the winter comes there will be a bitter nostalgia for these last waning days when summer faded.

The globalist project is dying; and with it will most of the existing hedgemonies.

Why fear the changing seasons?

It is only after the tree has lost all it's leaves and appears long dead that it buds anew.

Why should the tree of liberty be any less captive to the seasons?

The only way out through.



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:30 | 5096147 Rusty Shorts
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"Mind Games"

We're playing those mind games together
Pushing the barriers planting seeds
Playing the mind guerrilla
Chanting the Mantra peace on earth
We all been playing those mind games forever
Some kinda druid dudes lifting the veil
Doing the mind guerrilla
Some call it magic the search for the grail

Love is the answer and you know that for sure
Love is a flower you got to let it grow

So keep on playing those mind games together
Faith in the future out of the now
You just can't beat on those mind guerrillas
Absolute elsewhere in the stones of your mind
Yeah we're playing those mind games together
Projecting our images in space and in time

Yes is the answer and you know that for sure
Yes is surrender you got to let it go

So keep on playing those mind games together
Doing the ritual dance in the sun
Millions of mind guerrillas
Putting their soul power to the karmic wheel
Keep on playing those mind games together
Raising the spirit of peace and love
(I want you to make love, not war
I know you've heard it before)
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:35 | 5096156 kridkrid
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chauncey gardner?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:46 | 5096378 Duffy
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you poor, poor fucker - they've barely got this thing going.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 08:24 | 5096639 sleigher
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Kind of like drinking yourself sober?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:42 | 5095687 netsludge
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"This well not end well"

Nonsense. Let us take a look back at the last few years:

FEMA Executive Orders


PDD 51 & New Executive Order gives the executive branch Dictator Power


National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive


(Source Doc) Executive Order 13528-- Establishing Council of Governors


Shredding the Constitution


You have heard of the Council of Governments, but have you heard of the Council of Governors?


American Republic replaced by “Council of Governors”?


Congress Quietly Repeals Martial Law Provision


DoD Issues Instructions on Military Support of Civilian Law Enforcement


Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over Civil Disturbances


Military Internment Camps in U.S


HuffPost: Martial Law by Executive Order

(Source .gov)


Latest Executive Order (13603): Martial Law, Confiscation of Private Property and Forced Labor

(Source Doc)


Homeland Security Classifies Returning US Veterans as Potential Terrorist Threat


War On Terror’s New Targets: Veterans, Tea Partiers, Anti-Fed Activists


The New Terrorists


Veterans a Focus of FBI Extremist Probe

FBI to Target Veterans


Napolitano stands by controversial report


ARMY WAR COLLEGE: “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future”


The Atlantic (6/8/13): All the Infrastructure a Tyrant Would Need, Courtesy of Bush and Obama


TL;DR: Everything is fine.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:32 | 5095870 rayduh4life
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So in 2006 they tribe promotes Ben Bernanke who's only claim to fame was being an expert on the great err depression we're allowed to talk about.

Patriot Act suspends Posse Comitatus.

Ya they didn't see it coming.  B phucking S!


One question:  When did police go from wearing blue to the boys in black?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:11 | 5095969 Andre
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Couple of points.


  • Militarize the police and you end-run Posse Comitatus.
  • Black in Western mythology is the color of death and the night. It is a color selected to cause fear.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 06:10 | 5096441 oudinot
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Rather black is excellent camouflage, especially at night; and its 'slimming'.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:33 | 5095871 rayduh4life
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So in 2006 they tribe promotes Ben Bernanke who's only claim to fame was being an expert on the great err depression we're allowed to talk about.

Patriot Act suspends Posse Comitatus.

Ya they didn't see it coming.  B phucking S!


One question:  When did police go from wearing blue to the boys in black?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:41 | 5096536 overmedicatedun...
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i think my news is not bs because i like talk radio and fox



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:41 | 5096537 overmedicatedun...
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i think my news is not bs because I read the NY times and watch msnbc.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 07:42 | 5096542 overmedicatedun...
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I read and post on ZH because I know every news outlet owned by MSM is pure bs.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:35 | 5096958 StychoKiller
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Perhaps you're thinking of the Gestapo...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:31 | 5096021 daveO
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My dad was drafted during Vietnam. He was often put on alert to go to DC in case of violence. He said he was always disappointed he didn't get to go. He said really wanted to bust the heads of the rich kids who got deferments. That was his only motivation. I just don't see the military fighting average Americans. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:02 | 5096079 netsludge
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Here you go DaveO:

Katrina Transcript:

"You never expect to do this in your own Country..."

"Walking up and down these streets, you don't want to think about the stuff you're gonna have to do if somebody pops around the corner."

"You mean shoot an American?"



...the 7th infantry division and Marines from 1st Marine Division were called in to stop the rioting after the local police could not handle the situation.

And going back a bit further:

The Bonus Army

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:03 | 5096196 California Nigh...
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Interesting point. 

I think sensible people in the military now see how badly the govt is failing.  They might not do much to protect it.  

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:00 | 5096385 Duffy
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I just don't see the military fighting average Americans.

Oh, they will.  And those who won't -that's what DHS and the mercs are for.

And they will have their hands full with the Wolverines - really better for everyone if the people at the top of the Deep State, or near the top, just quietly remove the top top layer, the real psychos.  Then they can step in ad make their money and disintangle us from the security state and Israel's tentacles.


Israel's tentacles are everywhere - including in the Deep State and the militarization of police.  And the NSA is their bitch.


10 or so years ago a lot of the CIA resisted the nonsense intel coming out of the traitorous Zionist Jews in the OSP, but apparently couldn't stop them.  I expect a lot of those guys are gone, and the Nulands and Feiths and Perles and Wurmsers and Kagans have even freer rein and more control now.

But there must be resistance. The neocons could not get Syria or Iran going.


Obama and his team may deserve some credit for that, actually.  In fact - they do.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:25 | 5099501 Sir Edge
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""Israel's tentacles are everywhere - including in the Deep State and the militarization of police.  And the NSA is their bitch.

 10 or so years ago a lot of the CIA resisted the nonsense intel coming out of the traitorous Zionist Jews in the OSP, but apparently couldn't stop them.  I expect a lot of those guys are gone, and the Nulands and Feiths and Perles and Wurmsers and Kagans have even freer rein and more control now.

But there must be resistance. The neocons could not get Syria or Iran going.

 Obama and his team may deserve some credit for that, actually.  In fact - they do.


Good comments.

I agree with you aout Israels' tentacles being everywhere but maybe we could look at the 'Almost War' in Syria in a different way... a more stealth way.

Obama and the US State Dept and Kerry are OWNED by Israel and anything to the contrary is for show.

So the very close almost USA War with Syria in late 2013... What Happened ??

Obama and Kerry and Israel wanted the USA Navy to Crusie Missle the Assad Gov in Syria... but there were three BIG dissensions to this.

Three Big NOs...

1) The American people said NO in a huge percentage... Did that stop the USA from acting militarily in Syria... No... LOL. Just like the whole world protested the invasion of Iraq in 2003 including a majority of Americans and the USA still went right into Iraq.

2) The American Naval and US Military Leadership gave a big NO to the Syrian attack... this definitely had an effect... and have not many of our US Military been replaced since they disagreed with Obama and Kerry and Israel on attacking Syria ?

3) Last and most important was the BIG Russian NO for USA going at Syria with Cruise Missles... Huge NO... This was the NO that stopped Obama and Kerry and Israel.

So what happens next... Obama and Kerry and Israel back down and then... everything is peachy ? - NOT !

The overthrow of Ukraine by Israel and USA money/provation to get Russian into major conflagration in Europe and then USA and Israel PIVOT BACK TO SYRIA to continue the endless destablization of the Mid East by the Israeli's.

What Israel wants... Israel Gets... 800 Pound Gorilla in the worlds mobile Lavatory !


Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:43 | 5095690 Greenskeeper_Carl
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out of control is what happens when the EBT cards stop working. These people, and everyone else for that matter, do have a legitimate reason to protest, police beat, tazer, pepper spray, and kill way too many people. But them going apeshit and looting private businesses proves this 'protest' is just an excuse to burn cars and steal stuff. When it gets to that point so quickly, it leads me to believe that these people are mostly just a bunch of animals looking for any excuse to go looting and destroy shit. Does not bode well for us when those EBT cards don't get refilled in time, or bread costs $100.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:49 | 5095710 Godisanhftbot
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 You clearly are not down with the peoples.  You will be absorbed.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 09:09 | 5096802 Moustache Rides
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for the good of the body... summon the lawgivers

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:49 | 5095714 Think Like A Crook
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The race issue is noise.  Same as ever.  What is becoming different in the undertones of the haves vs. the have nots.  The oligarchs have been pretty smart in that they have miltiarized and weaponized even small town police depts.  It will always be a matter of when the po po realize who they are really working for.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:00 | 5095933 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Their families live somewhere. At some point they will have to make a decision when the communities they live in the people start shunning their wives and children and it becomes unsafe for them to live amongst the great unwashed. If they choose the keep protecting the state from the people they and their families will just wind up in prisons aka compounds for their own safety in their own country.

You know the saying happy wife, happy life.



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:24 | 5096003 i_call_you_my_base
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Maybe next time you can write something coherent.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:38 | 5096036 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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You guys are out in full force today...

Just remember when the people you are supposed to protect have a problem with you maybe the problem is you and not the people.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:53 | 5096084 i_call_you_my_base
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"You guys"

By that do you mean true libertarians?

Because unlike you, I cheer these people on. They've been shit on for cenrturies and are doing something about it. To me, as a person that cares about rights, I think it's great that these people are getting off of the couch and doing something to change it. Again, unlike you.

What say you?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 06:05 | 5096439 RafterManFMJ
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...the people you are supposed to protect.

I'm a bit unclear here; I know you haven't just fallen off the banana boat, yet you were not clear by 'people' you mean the Elite, the Banksters, and the rich.

So who are these 'people'?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:49 | 5096261 MsCreant
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I understood it just fine. I had never thought of it before, that the families would be shunned and outcast and that would be an issue for a cop to consider. Not sure how much it would take to make it happen. But the post made plenty of sense.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 06:13 | 5096442 RafterManFMJ
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It's a wet dream fantasy. Most worship at the alter of the cop.

And with the best pay, best health care, best retirement, and an insular culture where cop families congregate together, shunning is not a lever.

Say, a cop walks into your bar and you ask him to leave ... I wonder if your bar will come under increasing scrutiny from a legion of tax feeders?

Health inspectors, Liquor Control Board, Zoning...

I foresee a dying business ...

It's disgusting to see the cop chasers - or whatever nickname they have - women who throw themselves at these cops ... and reward them in every way they can.

No, those who think "shunning" will do anything constructive are seriously disconnected from reality.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:27 | 5096012 daveO
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I thought they were already dual citizens with Israel being their home base. Lindsay and John being exceptions, of course. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:25 | 5096004 daveO
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Maybe, it's because the Ponzi Dollar's time is nearly up and it's time to flush all the descendants of LBJ's Great Society. Used to be, they'd send the poor off to die in foreign wars. 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:51 | 5095728 fonzannoon
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i don't know why Jamie Dimon does not march right into the middle of st. louis and announce JPM is donating 100 mil from their depositor funded leveraged spy derivative gains directly to the ebt system and in effect giving each card member a 15% increase. he would be a hero and we would have another 3 years of eskimo pie lets take a bite.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:47 | 5095861 i_call_you_my_base
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Who gives a fuck about EBT cards? Such a low percentage of americans are on them. EBT cards and welfare recipients make no difference.  Wake the fuck up. No justice no peace. Fucking live it. Otherwise you're just a cunt that posts his outrage on ZH. Keep going, tell yourself that what you do matters.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:59 | 5096111 FEDbuster
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50 million or about 1/6 th of the US population relies on direct governent food subsidies, that is a big enough percentage to be concerned.  When the rest of the world cuts up the credit card, there will be blood in the streets. 

"Cost of livin' gets so high,
Rich and poor they start to cry:
Now the weak must get strong;
They say, "Oh, what a tribulation!"
Them belly full, but we hungry;
A hungry mob is a angry mob."

"Them Belly Full (But We Hungry)"

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:09 | 5096122 i_call_you_my_base
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FED QE could pay 1M people $100K per year. Who gives a fuck?

How much of the overall US budget is welfare? It's nothing compared to the war machine.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:14 | 5096130 FEDbuster
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More like 10K people $10 million a year, but that is another story....  You must be new around here, we all know the end game for the bankster bucks:

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:15 | 5096136 i_call_you_my_base
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You can click on my name to test out my newness.

1M people X $100K is a trillion per year. So?


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:21 | 5096140 FEDbuster
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The "war machine" is what backs the US Bankster Bucks, that seems to be slipping away fast.  Without the exchange for gold, the only thing we had to offer was the threat of something bad will happen if you don't take our dollars.  Seems like the threat is falling on deaf ears now.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:32 | 5096151 i_call_you_my_base
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I agree completely. But let's cut the racist shit and cheer on anyone that fucks with the establishment. Can we?

This is how we can actually change things.

The racist shit is divide and conquer. Racism in America was manufactured for the control of whites as well as blacks. Just piece it all together.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:31 | 5096237 Terminus C
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I think people would 'cut the racist shit' if there hadn't been looting and only protests.  Had it been a march that was gassed and shot at I think we may have seen the militia and larger support.  The looting destroyed any credibility these protesters had.  The looters may have not been from the community but the credibility damage had already been done.

I will agree with you the racism is bad though... and a control tactic by tptb.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:13 | 5098414 Abaco
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Are you certain the few looters were not connected to TPTB?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:18 | 5096301 localspaced
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Amen. What you find acceptable in other communities will eventually knock on your door as well. 

Btw, some American libertarians seem to me more like rabid nationalist religious conservatives. Let's call the neolibertarians for sake of way grouping with their neoliberal and neoconservative buddies. They're mostly converted neocons who finally noticed that the US hasn't won a war since world war 2.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:02 | 5096386 Duffy
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Who, exactly?

I bet you they aren't libertarian at all...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 03:12 | 5096292 ObamaDepression
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Actually, transfer payments make up over 2/3 of the budget (including medicare and social security) and 100% of tax revenues. We borrow money for allother parts of government.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 06:19 | 5096447 RafterManFMJ
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"Them Belly Full (But We Hungry)"

I'll go you one better

Now in the street, there is violence
And-and a lots of work to be done
No place to hang out our washing
And-and I can't blame all on the sun

Workin' so hard like a soldier
Can't afford a thing on TV
Deep in my heart, I abhor ya
Can't get food for the kid

Who is to blame in one country?
Never can get to the one
Dealin' in multiplication
And they still can't feed everyone

E. Grant

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:13 | 5095986 Miffed Microbio...
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Agree Carl, but these people are at the mercy of just in time inventory. If this shit goes down in any big way, after all is burned and looted, what will they do? Are they seriously prepped? Hardly. Is the government going to save them? Pessimistic me says no, Katrina is proof enough.

Once on the government teat, they have no worries and live in the moment. How long could they live if the feed trough is not filled?


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:21 | 5096000 daveO
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Once on the government teat, they have no worries and live in the moment. How long could they live if the feed trough is not filled?

Hopefully, not longer than one Chicago winter.
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:29 | 5096011 i_call_you_my_base
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Your post is horsehit economistspeak about something you know nothing about.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:55 | 5096275 MsCreant
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You are blindly attacking without reading what is being posted.

<<Why is what she said horseshit?>>Please explain.

Or are you another person who is trying to disrupt a thread so others will not read all the way through because they get sick of the mindless attacks/counterattacks?



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:11 | 5096395 Tall Tom
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He is here to disrupt.


He is just another chickenshit, hopelessly dependent, socialist, who cannot handle the truth.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:04 | 5096387 Duffy
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no, what you wrote is bullshit.  I'm perplexed at your inability to notice.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:09 | 5096393 Tall Tom
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There was NOTHING BUT CONCERN in Miffed's post. There was nothing that directly applied to the economy. There was NOT ONE fucking economic term.


When the Government stops sending the checks then people will starve. That is a fact.


Why don't you go and give yourself head as youe are spineless, lacking a backbone, and a contortionist?


Or come out and go hunting with me.


I live at 12223B Woodside Ave, Lakeside, CA USA.


Or are you too chickenshit. i_call_you_pusillanimous?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 06:23 | 5096448 RafterManFMJ
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I'd be angry too, if I lived in CA.


Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:50 | 5095721 MeMongo
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It means fuck all yall bitchez! When tshtf ......bitchez with most too lose will lose! Bottom line, so if youz aint in the ready and trying to figur out how to get thru jersey out of philly when.... well you know...then you're fucked bitchez! Mongo is simply packing away canned goods lead and much more Implements:-)......see yunz on the otherside. ide ide....sorry mark knophler came to mongos mind!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:57 | 5095936 BlindMonkey
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I could ride out the apocalypse with Mark Knopfler playing in the background.  


Meet you in the bunker with some Blue Label.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:04 | 5096118 FEDbuster
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:32 | 5096242 Terminus C
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With the Bush clan... good luck.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 04:19 | 5096354 UselessEater
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OK stick to the ME and US... Bush Clan working exceptionally; OTO...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:59 | 5095757 runningman18
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During any revolution there is always a percentage of the population that become useful idiots for the power brokers.  I think the hope for the Liberals to unite with Constitutionalists is a nice dream, but I wouldn't expect it to happen on a grand scale.  During the American Revolution, a majority of colonials were Torries; loyal to the king of England.  This constant clamoring for a majority movement is a waste of time.  A fight is coming, and the freedom fighters will undoubtedly be in the minority.  It's time to accept that reality and prepare.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:19 | 5095997 daveO
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The difference is the Torries were not a bunch of deadbeats and England was not flat broke. When this tide turns, there are going to be a lot of beggars starving in the streets. 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:14 | 5095812 drendebe10
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The only thing the grossly incompetent, corrupt, arrogant, narcissitic, illegal indonesian kneyan alien muslim soiopathic pathological lying fudge packer in chief cares about is its celebrity grand imperial life style on the backs of hard working, tax paying US citizens and fukall everything else... its idea of a job is flap lies between its gums reading the teleprompter ("...corspe men...").....  despicable, absolutely despicable....

Q:  How many democraps does it take to change a light bulb?

A:  That's not funny and you're a racist...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:10 | 5096204 OldPhart
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"So how did this transformation occur and what does it mean going forward?"

Step right in people, it's a free shower!  That odor is from the furnaces that we use to heat the water, nothing to worry about, move along...that's a good serf, get your ass in there nice and tight.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 02:52 | 5096269 NEKO
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Any surplus military weapons should have been given to border patrol who probably need them, not to internal police, who just misuse them to threaten the general population. Whatever happened to good policing? point the guns outward not inward.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 08:07 | 5096595 Pee Wee
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Provocation only leads to escillation.

The "police" are supposed to be sensible and in control, not provocative and escillate the situation with hardware and aggression while hiding in a  blue suit.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:30 | 5095645 q99x2
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I'm voting for a white man next election.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:41 | 5095683 db51
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Guess that means you'll be voting for Hillary?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:52 | 5095727 NoDebt
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Is it OK if he's fat?

No, wait, that really doesn't narrow it down any further, does it?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:16 | 5095821 drendebe10
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"There ainn't nuthin uglier than an old white woman."  Fred Sanford

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:14 | 5095988 daveO
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Aunt Ester!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:47 | 5095916 ebworthen
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I'm not voting for any President that doesn't have a dick.

I'll vote for Hitlary if I get proof that she's pegged Bill with this every birthday of his since 1995:

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:13 | 5095984 daveO
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If only that was all. She's 'mindfucked"(henpecked) him since college. Hence, his drinking and womanizing. That's the hallmark of a modern woman. Either full blown queer or Hillary.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:30 | 5096020 Miffed Microbio...
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Well that's just sad. I don't fit in either category. Had a delightful dinner and drinks on our porch finished off with a delightful " dessert". Looking forward to a night of the same tomorrow. I'm happy I'm not modernized. Sounds unappetizing.

Of course, there's is a marriage of power and convenience, not passion. I would not trade my life for their superficial world ever.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:35 | 5096030 ebworthen
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I'd vote for you Miffed; just being flippant.

She should have dumped him, but they are birds of a feather.

As you said:  "...a marriage of power and convenience, not passion."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:31 | 5096150 Miffed Microbio...
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Isn't this the sad dilemma EB? No one with a modicum of character will touch this sack of shit. Can I blame them? No, because I won't either for the simple reason it can't be saved. I held out for the remote chance Ron Paul would turn this around and I was answered.

I am honored for your remark even though flippant. And if for some strange reason I found myself as president I would do my best to turn this country around. And after about four hrs into my presidency I would be found dead in a hot tub with 50 nail gun injuries to my abdomen and 10 bullets in the back of my head. What else would this be but a suicide?


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 00:38 | 5096034 HughK
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daveO has trouble relating to women so now every woman is an aggro henpecker or a lesbian.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:04 | 5096117 medium giraffe
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Isn't Hillary both?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:42 | 5095686 alfred b.
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           ok....but what if the 'white man' is a woman?    Yikes ....doubt if the country will make there "as is" anyway!



Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:57 | 5095746 Anusocracy
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The dumb asses that vote have the blood of millions on their hands.

Voters are evolution's cruelest joke.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:45 | 5095910 Oldwood
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And you, typing away madly while anonymously are completely without blame, demonstrating only the highest intelligence. Maybe if we all stopped voting they wouldn't need to lie to us anymore. They can pretty much do as they please. I'm sure you don't believe the low voter turnout is an accident do you? I think you, like everyone else, is fulfilling their role as planned.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:59 | 5100937 Anusocracy
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Government rules by the consent of the governed.

The consenters are asses. They innately desire government and all the evil shit that that entails.

It's tantamount to wanting cancer or dementia or your spouse cheating on you then wondering why your life becomes so screwed up.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 23:55 | 5095934 McMolotov
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Study proves voting to be enormous waste of time?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 05:04 | 5096388 Duffy
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fuck breitbart, tho


Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:35 | 5095662 Seasmoke
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Spreading faster than Ebola.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:39 | 5095673 Yes We Can. But...
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Told me all I needed to know.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:38 | 5095674 therevolutionwas
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As long as "the poor" will be satisfied to be free to work for their living, I am sure we will "work together" to get gov't out of our lives.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:43 | 5095691 fonzannoon
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i put on my local news hoping to get an update on nyc. they are doing a big segment on starbucks new pumpkin spiced latte. is it too soon? big debate happening.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:49 | 5095706 NoDebt
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This would be a great time for Xerox to do a "maintenance cycle" on the EBT card system (Xerox Business Solutions does the back end of the EBT card system for many states).  Your newscast would look very different, very quickly.

Near as I can tell, the entitlments system is the only thing that keeps us from spiraling into becoming the western front of the middle east.

I wish I had a Starbucks near me so I could enjoy the privilege of slappiong down a sawbuck on the counter for a single cup of coffee.  Sadly, no.  Mr. Coffee and Maxwell House sitting on my kitchen counter.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 01:33 | 5096152 Skateboarder
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- Get a French Press.
- Get some whole bean coffee and grind it medium-coarse.
- Learn good brewing technique and brew some delicious coffee.

I'm telling you man. You'll live in a whole anotha universe.

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