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Ukraine Passes Russian Sanctions Law: Gas Transit Halt Seems Imminent

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The Ukrainian parliament approved a law on Thursday to impose sanctions on Russian companies and individuals "for financing terrorism." As Reuters reports, Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk told parliament that "by approving the law on sanctions, we showed that the country is able to protect itself." The first 'threat' though - that European energy companies would have to agree major contract revisions when purchasing Russian natural gas, potentially disrupting supplies in the coming winter months - seems suicidal... and EU leaders are not happy. Slovak Premier Robert Fico asked rhetorically, "Isn't it strange that a country, which has signed an association agreement, a country, which we are all trying to help, is taking steps that jeopardize the interests of individual EU members?"

 

As Reuters reports, the Ukrainian parliament approved a law on Thursday to impose sanctions on Russian companies and individuals supporting and financing separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine.

The government has already prepared a list of 172 citizens of Russia and other countries, and of 65 Russian companies, including gas export giant Gazprom, on whom they could impose sanctions "for financing terrorism".

 

After Thursday's vote, Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk told parliament that Ukraine had taken a historic step. "By approving the law on sanctions, we showed that the country is able to protect itself," he said.

 

"The law should give a clear answer to any aggressor or terrorist who threatens our national security, our government and our citizens."

 

Ukraine said on Monday that European energy companies would have to agree major contract revisions when purchasing Russian natural gas if parliament approved sanctions on Gazprom.

 

Russia is Europe's biggest gas supplier, meeting almost a third of the region's demand, around half of which flows to European clients via Ukraine. European utility companies are worried that Ukrainian sanctions could disrupt supplies during the coming winter.

But, as Bloomberg reports, European leaders are not happy at Ukraine...

Sanctions imposed by European Union and Russia against one another “senseless on both sides,” “will lead to a weaker EU,” Slovak Premier Robert Fico tells reporters in Bratislava.

 

“I understand this is about principles, but I am far from believing in justice in international politics”

 

"Isn't it strange that a country, which has signed an association agreement, a country, which we are all trying to help, is taking steps that jeopardize the interests of individual EU members?" Fico says, referring to proposed Ukrainian sanctions against Russia which may include suspension of gas transit to Europe

 

“We don’t want be held hostage by the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, we can’t sacrifice our interests in the name of some duel”

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What is worse... as we noted previously, Europe will not be able to produce any of its own shale gas for at least 2 years. 

 

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Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:03 | 5092930 IridiumRebel
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Brilliant! Doctor? Pass me the scalpel to slice my nose off!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:08 | 5092953 Latina Lover
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This is too funny!  Are the Ukies secretly on Putin's payroll, trying to promote Southstream?  The stupidity of the Kiev Idiots, controlled by the USSA is beyond cosmic!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:08 | 5092965 IridiumRebel
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"Oh yeah, baby, well, because you cheated on me, I am going to cut my dick off so you can NEVER have sex with me again!"

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:14 | 5092984 Latina Lover
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The Ukie leadership remind me of the 3 stooges launching into space.  Only instead of the button reading launch instead of lunch, it reads self destruct .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq8k3cU4tI4

 

Seriously, why are they acting so crazy?  I am beginning to wonder if it is the intention of the USSA to destroy the EU, unless they somehow think they will conquer Russia via their fifth column within the next few months. 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:14 | 5092996 walküre
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Just look at these clowns. Clearly, they're taking their orders from somewhere. Just from who exactly is the question. Ukie politicians are beyond corrupt by nature. Just their way of doing political business.

Who benefits if the gas prices spike sky high?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:23 | 5093010 Headbanger
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Tylers:  A much better gun photo to use for this article headline:

http://files1.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_660/6600805/file/gun-c...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:11 | 5093272 barre-de-rire
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lol

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 17:59 | 5094445 7.62x54r
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The retards in the Whitehouse want a war. The Ukrainians obey.

They now want to move tanks into Poland. Fun times.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:18 | 5093016 whotookmyalias
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Nothing that happens in this situation should surprise anyone.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:21 | 5093020 Latina Lover
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Quoting Walkure: who benefits from sky high gas prices?

 

You have one guess, and it starts with an R, ends with A, and rhymes with USSA, Fuckya!

 

The Ukraine is a joke that gets funnier each time you tell it.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:18 | 5093299 Jack Burton
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Latina, While the USA policy is designed to attack Russia, a great side benefit for the USA is the destruction of the EU economy. If both Russia and the EU have their economies destroyed, then the world returns in a partial way to how it was in 1950. Europe and Russia on their knees and the USA the only economic game in town. The difference this time though is the rise of Asia, and this USA game in Ukraine does nothing to hurt China or other BRICS - Russia.

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 16:41 | 5094126 sushi
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Somebody needs to explain why the Euro countries are all rolling over and playing dead while UKR / USSA steamrollers them, I am sure some of the eurocrats in Brussels are bought and paid for stooges of the Imperial Power but this cannot apply to all of them. It seemed pretty clear at "FUCK THE EU" get go what was coming down the pipe.

Now, instead of Brussels running the show it is going to be Ukraine holding everyone to ransome and they have zip, no cards, no resources, nada. They only thing they do have is thay are sitting in Uncle Sam's back pocket. folks in the EU are going to have a long cold hard winter unless they develop some cojones.

 

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:12 | 5095550 Ides of November
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Who do we have now seriously starting to question the USA/UK/Poland/Ukraine narrative from the EU/NATO.

 

Turkey (Still trading with Russia, and if the BRICS have any sense they will invite Turkey into the fold quicksmart - and out of NATO).

Bulgaria (Surely these guys don't want to get screwed over by the EU/USA/Ukraine?) Elections in October may tell a story. One to watch.

Austria (Desperately want South Stream to go ahead so this kind of BS doesn't destroy their economy)

Hungary (Victor Orban has publicly praised Putin's leadership)

Slovakia (Add it to the list).

Interestingly, these countries are the prime beneficiaries of South Stream!

They just need to start building the damn thing and get these guys out of EU/NATO.

South Stream will render the Ukraine irrelevant.

My prediction.

If Ukraine stops gas transit, Poland will be the next to block gas transit.

Look at a map - only two countries between the Baltic & Black Seas (Poland & Ukraine). Clearly they're both in this up to their necks!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:49 | 5093166 crazzziecanuck
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It's actually a pretty clever strategy, actually.  These are threats against other EU nations, just as this Slovak minister points out.  The problem is that the Ukies are trying to paint their actions as "well intentioned but flawed."  They're not flawed at all, they're thought out.  What the Ukrainian parliament is saying is that we're going to throw fit after fit and the only solution is for you to give us what we want, and that's pretty much going to come down to one simple thing: money.

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:02 | 5093195 silvermail
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It's called blackmail.

Kiev, via puppets of Washington, blackmailing the whole of Europe.

But is not the idea of Kiev. This is the idea of Washington. What is the purpose of Washington? It's very simple: Washington strive to create a crisis in Europe. Thus, the capital and financial flows will flow from Europe to the United States.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:04 | 5093226 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Yes, it is blackmail of Europe. The NATO countries have forced this mess onto the Ukraine and left it a disaster. Ukrainian parliment is dumping the choice back into Europe's court. Help us or freeze.

BTW, Ukraine is already screwed. This is their last option.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:12 | 5093603 Rubicon
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There is no way Vlad will turn the gas off.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 18:01 | 5094451 7.62x54r
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Why should he? The Ukrainians will do it for him.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:19 | 5093303 Jack Burton
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BINGO "Silvermail", you have got it 100% correct!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:16 | 5093628 silvermail
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Interesting information on the level of rumor from Russia:
Ukraine this year will not be able to sell grain for export.
In the United States have big drought.
Russia, Kazakhstan and China are consulting on the prohibition of the sale of grain to export a in other countries. They want to leave this grain for its processing to feed for livestock. And then give these fodder to the farmers in the form of loans. Return of these loans, the farmers will be do no via money and no via grain, but via ready meat.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:41 | 5093427 Omen IV
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This is a USA Plan - they want pretext for intervention under the guise of protection for europe

USA wants to have a standoff at the russian border and control of the pipeline before Russia intervenes and controls it

preemptive move

 

Yats already resigned once to take the USA position when offered to run the show

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:51 | 5093168 localizer
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Actually another explanation is this: cut EU off from Russian gas. Yes, long cold winter BUT that will drive the gas price in Europe up, right? That's exactly what's needed for the US to export their LNG to Europe since Asian prices are much higher... there's a reason Bulgaria suspended the South Stream project (followed by a gvmt collapse) right after McCain paid them a friendly visit... whoever is behind these decisions it's sure is not Kiev...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:02 | 5093218 Urban Redneck
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The US doesn't have the infrastructure to export LNG and it's not going to get it anytime soon.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:12 | 5092989 NidStyles
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These people are complete idiotic incompetents. I thought our incompetents were bad, but these people are even worse....

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:17 | 5093005 Latina Lover
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Actually, the Ukie government is a puppet regime of the the USSA, so what does that say about Nudelman and company? Our USSA leadership must be criminally insane, or expect the USSA economy to implode iminently.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:18 | 5093013 NidStyles
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I really have no idea how this will play out, but I am tired of dealing with complete morons.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:22 | 5093040 Latina Lover
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With respect, calling the Ukies and their USSA handlers morons, is a insult to real morons.   We need  a new word to describe their malfunctions.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:32 | 5093085 Keyser
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"Snoid" seems to be an appropriate term for the current bunch of psychopaths pulling the strings... 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:25 | 5093674 rwe2late
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Latina Lover,

I think "mountebanks"      (meaning: unscrupulous charlatans)

is the term most apt.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:45 | 5093455 Omen IV
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no one is stupid its all be design in Wash DC

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:23 | 5093027 Winston Churchill
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Criminally insane would be a marked improvement.

The world looks like a scene from a Hironimus Bosch oil painting.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:04 | 5093236 silvermail
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These people don't decide anything. They are only puppets of Washington. They do only what they are told to do from Washington.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:17 | 5093637 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

These people don't decide anything. They are only puppets of Washington. They do only what they are told to do from Washington.

They put the "dumb" in dummies.

Well, no, actually they put the "retard rocking back and forth uncontrollably, drooling on himself while huffing gasoline and shitting his pants" in dummies.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:24 | 5093324 SoDamnMad
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IridiumRebel

Someone on ZH wrote it best years ago. Goes like, Be careful reading comments when drinking coffee. Snorted coffee out my nose reading your comment.  Priceless. I need a Tee shirt with that on it. Will see if it can be written in Russian too.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:12 | 5093610 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Yats cuts off his dick to prove he's a man.

These Yatzis are closer to Idiocracy than even the US of A.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:19 | 5093025 Freddie
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Dual citizen Yats and his junta.  When are the Ukies going to get rid of this evil scum?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:24 | 5093050 Latina Lover
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The problem with most Ukies are that they rather be conned, than admit they were conned. Yats, Porky, IHOR and crew have nothing to worry about.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:31 | 5093073 astoriajoe
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a really good con feels very good while its happening.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:20 | 5093028 Reptil
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No, this is a deliberate tactic of the corporatists, that want to bring europe to it's knees, before they ram home the TTIP-TAFTA.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:25 | 5093057 Latina Lover
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Interesting interpretation, except that russia can double gas transfers via Nordstream, and through other pipeline systems.   Nevertheless, I will keep an open mind.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:51 | 5093489 COSMOS
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lots of usa subs trolling around, I am sure a little pipeline accident underneath the baltic sea can cause a headache for Europe and nordstream, lets not forget that they used the subs to tap into the fiberoptic cables running at the bottom of the oceans...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:48 | 5093165 wewillwin
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when your master is as stupid as the US what do you expect from the it's puppet to be brilliant?!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:27 | 5093341 Thom_333
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No they (individual politicians) are on Washingtons payroll and they are doing what they are being payed to do. This is how the ironic/sarcastic comment from the Slovak should be interpreted. He is aware of this but can´t just blurt it out.Furthermore he is casting some doubt on the wisdom of pursuing this policy. Not helpful for EU self-interests. But that´s politics for you.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:04 | 5093231 talisman
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Old "Through History with J.Wesley Smith" cartoon----

OOPS, SORRY!, Doctor, is no excuse for cutting the carotid.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:04 | 5092939 1000yrdstare
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Remember Noodleman's conversation....

FUCK THE EU!....

maybe the EU may fuck the Ukraine... we'll see as it starts to get a nip in the air..

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:08 | 5092963 Latina Lover
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It seems that Nudelman did not mis speak...  she and her cohorts really want to Fuck the EU!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:25 | 5093060 Freddie
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The Europeans need to get rid of the EU scum in Brussels.   Americans are TV drooling sheep with aan Obama loving military and police state,

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:26 | 5093064 F0ster
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This Ukie move will force Germany to pivot

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:09 | 5093260 silvermail
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In Germany, all decisions are made by Merkel.
But Merkel Whores For Washington:
http://www.infowars.com/merkel-whores-for-washington/

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:22 | 5093310 Jack Burton
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The NSA and CIA hold enough information on Merkel to destroy that whore's political career in 2 fucking seconds. She whores for Washington, or she retires to a life of disgrace due to revelations about her leaked to German newspapers by the NSA and CIA. That simple!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:53 | 5093513 COSMOS
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I am sure they have all sorts or embarassing selfies on her naked with some transgender whores in private resorts in Turkey, amongst other many interesting things

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:07 | 5092956 ThisIsBob
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Go get 'em, Tiger.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:08 | 5092957 Stoploss
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BRRRRRR....

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:08 | 5092958 elegance
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Fico is the most subservient russian patsy in all of EU. He wouldn't say anything else. I doubt there are even his feet sticking out of Putin's arse. He is "all in".

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:22 | 5093039 Reptil
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And what are you? Brzezinski's orifice? :-)

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:07 | 5092959 Squid Viscous
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where is that fucking convoy? is Fred Sanford driving the lead truck?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:28 | 5093068 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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"I'm comin' Elizabeth!"

Looking at this, big picture, I am incredulous that:

1. US/western team is so obviously ham-fisted and stupid. OK, maybe they are, but it has a cartoonish obviousness in case anyone missed the message.

2. That Putin suddenly looks like a genius who's got all the right moves. Have you seen even one thing that looks like a gaffe? The west can't get anything right. It's just fishy. Will this ultimately justify the destruction of the West's interests. Again, who (above govt) is wanting this to turn out this way?

3. Who is funding those neo-nazi types in Ukraine (and elsewhere)? These guys supposedly crawled out of the woodwork of broke-ass Ukraine with organization, money, laptops, access to weapons?? I'd imagine 2 viable explanations-- either they are Blackwater types dressed up in whatever garb necessary, or they are in fact being funded by a nazi international who has its own agenda and objectives.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:53 | 5093178 crazzziecanuck
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The oligarchs funded a number of these "National Guard" troop divisions in the Ukraine, for one.  So, the peopel in the Maidan who fought against oligarch corruption by Kiev are being paid to kill and die for another set of oligarchs.

Ukrainians are stupid; the only smart ones are in the eastern half of the country.  Why on Earth would the EU even remotely want them?  I guess mostly to use Ukraine as a stepping stone to attack Russia... which seems more and more obvious now.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:12 | 5093275 silvermail
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Brilliant phrase said my aunt sells berries near my house:
"Smart Ukrainians do exist, but they are Russians."

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:03 | 5093553 Volkodav
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Western Ukraine regions are former Polish lands. 

Pollack Forest Nazi's come from there.

Much of west is Poles with none or not much ethnic Ukrainian blood,

real historical Ukrainians are much related closer DNA with Russians

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:20 | 5095595 Ides of November
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Poland clearly spots an opportunity here to get back East Poland (also known as West Ukraine/ Galicia).

If Ukraine starts to really split at the seams in the next few months, expect "Polish peacekeepers" in Lviv and elsewhere in Galicia.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 06:47 | 5096464 o2sd
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I've met some really smart Ukies, but they were all mad as batshit, and they all hated Russians. Russians are mad also, but no where near the batshit madness of Ukranians.

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:08 | 5092962 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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New headline idea:  "Putin's Ass Laughed Off, Kremlin Sources Say"

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:08 | 5092966 pods
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So wait, doesn't the Ukraine still owe like $5 billion for gas?

WTF are they retarded?  
The Ukraine tries to fuck Russia, who promptly forces past due bills to be paid.  Which will have to come from the IMF, which the EU will support. 

Meanwhile Russia is building a way to bypass Ukraine and sell more gas to China?

Lets hope Biden's kid fattens up before they biodiesel his ass for screwing things up.

pods

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:24 | 5093045 Reptil
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It's all in the plan. It's just so freaky that no one suspects it's actually on purpose.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:35 | 5093102 CrimsonAvenger
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When I play poker, whenever I have a shit hand, I go all in and make sure everyone sees my cards when I do. I think that's what Ukraine is doing here.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:42 | 5093133 Zerozen
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a.k.a The Yatsenyuk Double-inverted Bluff

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:17 | 5093295 Canucklehead
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Man that Yats is one dumb Ukrainian.  He reminds me of all those dumb Ukrainian jokes I heard growing up.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:51 | 5093500 Volkodav
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Yats is not ethnic Ukrainian.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:09 | 5092969 ekm1
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Wars will expand for as long as Quantitative Easing continues.

 

Unless QE is fully unwound (not just halted), wars will continue unabated.

 

QE = Financial Aggression from bank lobby to world assets

 

World is responding with wars.

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:18 | 5093014 walküre
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Wars will be fought as long as there are bankers making backdoor deals and giving loans to national leaders who are then at the complete mercy of the bankers. War is the ultimate collateral and the risk/reward is off the charts. Wars usually bring about a complete collapse and a reset where the bankers can hide all their past sins and come out ahead, always on top of the shit pile. Sometimes the bankers even get awarded a nation state as part of the deal.

You know what that means.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:09 | 5092971 goldhedge
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FUCK THE EU

FUCK UKRAINE

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:09 | 5092978 Uncertain T
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How many times will Kiev poke the tiger, thinking that they are protected by the chair and whip of the West, before the tiger strikes back.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:44 | 5093144 Zerozen
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In this case they're not just poking the tiger but also gave the ringmaster a lowblow in the balls.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:17 | 5093296 silvermail
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Saakashvili in Tbilisi, too, thought he was under the protection of the United States.
But then he ate his a fashionable tie with the symbols of NATO.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:10 | 5092983 Quinvarius
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The Ukrainians are so fkn stupid to get in bed with the USA and do stupid shit like this.  

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:16 | 5093003 NotApplicable
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You mean some Ukranians. Likely highly compromised ones at that.

Funny how collectives work.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:47 | 5093158 CH1
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Funny how collectives work.

Indeed.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:22 | 5093038 1000yrdstare
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The Ukrainians were infiltrated by USA nazi stooges. (see ARAB spring for effective example) however, its not working out so well for the US in Syria and Ukraine, as for Ukrainians, they did elect the guy (democracy) that was over thrown by a coup, so the US supports coups (but only if it benefits the US.)....have I got that right?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:08 | 5093136 RaceToTheBottom
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2 kids stealing berries from each others cereal bowls....  All the while they, and the world, does not notice that the cereal is getting soggy...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:12 | 5092990 foxenburg
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“We don’t want be held hostage by the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, we can’t sacrifice our interests in the name of some duel”  Slovak Premier Robert Fico

 

Now, that's what I call a pragmatist!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:36 | 5093107 ThisIsBob
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Indeed.  Nobody cares if they are shooting down civilian airliners, bombing civilian apartment blocks, sniping bystanders.  But get even near the pocketbook and something must be done.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:14 | 5092999 robertocarlos
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It's only a rubber bullet. It won't stick but it will hurt.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:15 | 5093000 Tenshin Headache
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Stupid is as stupid does.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:52 | 5093174 Zwelgje
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And you can't fix stupid.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:55 | 5093187 general ambivalent
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Ukraine is like a box of chocolate factories: you never know how much gas you're gonna get (to pay off the gangs).

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:16 | 5093007 JamesH
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Do you get the feeling that there will be accident with the pipeline somewhere in Ukraine quite soon?

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:18 | 5093015 yogibear
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When Russia cuts of the gas for the winter you people will be burning forest to keep warm.

What a bunch of simpletons. Do what your IMF banksters want and shoot yourself.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:30 | 5093062 Yen Cross
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  lol. Western Europe is going to look like Easter Island by the time this circus ends...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:33 | 5093719 TheFourthStooge-ing
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They'll need to burn all their furniture just to get a little of that freshly cut green wood started.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:53 | 5093857 smacker
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"Tragedy of The Commons"

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:31 | 5093079 Ignatius
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This is strange.  There are some really fine Ukranian chess players.  Doubtless they are not in charge.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:38 | 5093088 tony wilson
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if putin does not stop bullying us and do what we rabbis say we promise russia we will shoot off are other foot.

do not mess with the caananites

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:34 | 5093092 CrazyCatLady
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Seems to me like ukraine is trying to grow a pair and use the threat of no gas to get nato more involved in their defense in the east against russian sepratists.  Seems like collective efforts are starting to fall apart.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:24 | 5093329 Latina Lover
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So what is NATO supposed to do, invade the Ukraine and turn the gas back on?  Threaten Russia to keep gas flowing or else?  Seriously, The Ukies must be desperate or terminally stupid to play such a bad hand.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:10 | 5093589 CrazyCatLady
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I think urkraine is trying to tell NATO ( who has told Ukraine to get contol of rich east or you're not coming into EU) that if they dont help get control back of east, they will have themselves a gasless quagmire.  I think its the only card Ukraine could possibly have left.  I have read several places that the army is deserting.  Ukraine needs more NATO to have hope of keeping E Ukraine, especially with Russia's humanitarian aid on its way.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 20:12 | 5094985 datapanik
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European govt's are turning out to be as stupid as Australian government.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:35 | 5093097 RaceToTheBottom
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That Slovak Premier should stay away from tall buildings and Nail Guns.  

Far too sensible....

That is just crazy talk....

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:45 | 5093150 zenon
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"Isn't it strange that a country, which has signed an association agreement, a country, which we are all trying to help, is taking steps that jeopardize the interests of individual EU members?"

No it isn't strange you NATO horse-ass. And who made you believe that the objective in all of this act of war theater is the interest of "individual ?U members? In case you didn't know, the globalists would not blink before throwing your country (and most others) on the sacrificial altar for some higher goal (in the Luciferian scheme of things).

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:52 | 5093173 Toolshed
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It appears "what we have here, is a failure to communicate". The Europeon bureaucrats thought Ukraine was applying for membership with the EU, but the Ukranian neo-nazis thought they were applying for membership with the US. Just a simple misunderstanding really.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:01 | 5093175 general ambivalent
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IMF/CIA and the EinYatsgruppen (if it were a Kids in the Hall skit)

http://youtu.be/jEuiivPLVIc

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:04 | 5093227 viator
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"Europe will not be able to produce any of its own shale gas for at least 2 years. "

A lot longer than that if the anti-frackers, watermelons, and carbonphobes have anything to say about it.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:22 | 5093263 vincenze
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Don't worry!

Russia can supply Europe with its famous fur hats, fur coats, wool boots.

Remember, synthetic fabrics are usually made from oil and gas.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:26 | 5093282 Jack Burton
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Pretty amazing news. By halting Russian gas, Ukraine will alienate their strong allies in the EU who follow US foreign policy dictates to the letter. In return for all this diplomatic and sanctions support from the EU, Ukraine turns around and stabs the EU in the back. This is no surprise, I ask you to research the Kiev Rada and it's new members after the coup. Also the new people appointed to government posts are in many case Twilight Zone material.

Rational thought does not come into this. The coup leaders in Kiev come mainly from a western minority of the Galician variety. These folks were ardent nazis in World War II, even creating their own SS Division to fight for Hitler. What I did not know, but now have learned, is that since the end of the USSR, Galician schools and community organizations along with local media have been on a 20 year nazification effort. Teaching nazi ideology and Galician racial supremacy over those decades. What happned in Kiev is the outcome of this radical movement that has grown and thrived for 2 decades in the west of Ukraine.

These folks do not operate with a full deck. To accept all this European support and meanwhile try and wreck the EU economy, that is insane. But, attacking the east with armored divisions and bombing a city of a million people with SU-25 attack planes is also insane.

I hope the EU idiots who follow all Washington's orders enjoy getting a quarter to three quarters of their gas shut down. Remember, it takes only a fraction of an import reduction to force the markets to bid up the price of Nat. Gas.

A crisis is brewing in Europe and it may not shake out as the Obama gang of thugs had thought. The EU is pissing it's self over the Russian Food Ban, now Ukraine will shut off their gas too? Again the Washington DC and Israeli Congress and President of the USA have fucked up royally.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:37 | 5093401 Latina Lover
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Jack Burton,  your arguments are compelling.  I do not understand the Ukies actions in terms of self interest or logic. Only insane irrationality seems to explain their actions.  On the face of it, they have massively bolstered Putin's argument that southstream is required to ensure reliable supplies of nat gas to Europe, and are stabbing their EU partners where it hurts most. I'll bet that many european leaders are privately regretting their support for the USSA/German putsch.

But, I keep wondering what is the USSA's real game, since they control the Kiev Idiots. How does the USSA benefit from burning the Ukies only real leverage over Russia? To hurt Russia via diminishing her exports to Europe, are the State Department Criminals willing to destroy the EU economies? Is this a final, desperate attempt to save the USD by ruining the Euro?  I just don't know.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:47 | 5093481 toady
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To me this sounds like the Ukrainians telling the EU to send lawyers, guns and money OR ELSE. In all fairness, they were probably promised much more support.

"Where's our supply convoy?" (Stomps feet like a child)

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:20 | 5093647 Lea
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Latina Lover, the Ukie putchsist govt was promised a free ride by the USA and the EU. As none of that is forthcoming and the situation for them is getting worse by the day - despite the rabid anti-russian propaganda they daily spew in their local media, their population is getting more and more cross at them -, they are getting nervouser and nervouser.

Hence the blunders. 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:32 | 5093712 Old Man River
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"Is this a final, desperate attempt to save the USD by ruining the Euro?"

 

I honestly don't think that they want to save the USD. At best I think they are simply indifferent.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:50 | 5093845 rwe2late
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Latina Lover

 Where do Kiev policies originate?

Inasmuch as they originate with the Kiev putsch leaders, then the purpose appears to be a poorly veiled blackmail of EU.

If policy is determined by the US, then the purpose appears as an attempt

to push both the EU and Russia down, thereby relatively boosting the USA up.

 

Similar as with Israeli Zionists and the US, or with Saudis and the US,

or with Japanese militarists and the US,

... the goals of the Kiev leaders fit into larger US policy designs.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:53 | 5093855 rwe2late
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Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:04 | 5093562 Omen IV
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prelude to USA takeover of governement to preserve use of pipeline - nothing is stupid or nonsensical - just right now you dont have context

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:55 | 5093864 rwe2late
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Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:16 | 5093286 Bemused Observer
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Maybe the EU should have given this a little more thought...it may turn out that Ukraine is a lot more trouble than it's worth, and that Russia is best poised to keep them in line.

Hell, maybe the EU will end up ASKING Putin to step in.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:29 | 5093351 Winston Churchill
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Said by me 4 months ago. I hope my other prophecies don't come to pass,

but the depths of human depravity seldom catch me by surprise anymore.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:16 | 5093288 Son of Captain Nemo
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As I've mentioned previously to the military folks out there that have pillaged, raped and murdered on their paymasters behalf for the past quarter century as an "all volunteer" force...  Next question(s) you need to be asking yourself before they send you on your last "tour of duty"

1. When Washington comes "home" from it's well deserved break in two weeks, should you bring your a) bushmaster rifle, b) M-16, c) AR-15 d) Remingtron 12 gauge or e) All of the above?... 

2. And which offices in D.C. should you visit first?... a) Federal Reserve b) Treasury c) Pentagon d) Capitol building (including offices) e) WH f) All of the above?...

Answer(s):

1. If you answered e) you are correct.  e) All of the above can also include any additional weapons of your choosing including RPGs and anti-tank weapons...

2. If you answered f) you got the right answer.  Our recommendations for best results is that you really need to start first in the order of these options and work your way down to the "Big White House" last.

Make it entertaining and hold a party in the honor of the last two complete with closing ceremonies to include 'fireworks"....

Because when you are finished with Pennsylvania Ave. and Constitution Ave. it should look like one very large outdoor parking lot.  If it does look like one big outdoor parking lot with nothing moving on it -you know you did your job!

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:33 | 5093376 Son of Captain Nemo
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If the American people refuse to take matters into their own hands?

In the immortal words of the ex-Assistant Treasury Secretary of the United States....

"Don't expect to live much longer"!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:26 | 5093291 vincenze
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The Ukrainian government cuts its own population from food, water, electricity because they happen to speak the Russian language.

Why would it care about other countries?

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:20 | 5093309 Lea
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Another proof, if need be, that Nazis don't have brains. Animals with gut instinct, at best.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:41 | 5093399 damicol
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"Isn't it strange that a country, which has signed an association agreement, a country, which we are all trying to help, is taking steps that jeopardize the interests of individual EU members?"

 

Maybe the retards in Brussels should have thought about that when they all decided to stick 8 inch of tongue up the slimy asshole of a black islamic faggot in WAshington.

Thats the taste of of shit they have now.

 and I suspect that taste is something the should get used to because that’s the only thing they are going to taste for a long long time

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:48 | 5093474 Son of Captain Nemo
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 ...and I suspect that taste is something the should get used to because that’s the only thing they are going to taste for a long long time

Trust them d

The Belgians are master candy artisans.  I'm sure they will turn that into a flavor and make it a "chocolate truffle" in his honor  Cafe De Obunghole!...

As a matter of fact the rest of the EU probably wishes they stuck to what they know how to do best and stay the fuck out of politics!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:47 | 5093821 lakecity55
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"That feels great, Reggie!"
"Thanks, but that is Hollande, munchkins."

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:38 | 5093410 toady
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"Isn't it strange that a country, which has signed an association agreement, a country, which we are all trying to help, is taking steps that jeopardize the interests of individual EU members?" 

Let me translate;

Be still while we fuck you in the ass. It won't hurt nearly as much.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:38 | 5093415 Coletrane
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suicide is not an effective tactic to avoid being mugged.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:56 | 5093525 dearth vader
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Now, instead of making up sardonic comments on Ukrainian idiocy, let's all sit down, pour ourselves our favorite drink and have a hearty laugh together. This really is beyond funny.

What will the EU jokers do now? Have second thoughts on Ukraine? Call each other, have feverish conversations and then have third thoughts on Ukraine? Will they push Bulgaria into lifting the ban on South Stream? Will they realise they're dealing with idiots? Dmitry Orlov could've told them.

http://cluborlov.blogspot.nl/2014/08/permission-to-steal-everything.html

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:18 | 5093633 directaction
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We can't really blame the Ukraine government. They're a mere doll hanging from strings, only doing what they're told to do. 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:30 | 5093693 shovelhead
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"We gotta do something."

"This is something."

"Well, let's do it."

"Any more new business?"

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 15:52 | 5093852 Duc888
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Smart money would figure out how to export US coal to the Euro-peons.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 16:01 | 5093899 Againstthelie
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"Isn't it strange that a country, which has signed an association agreement, a country, which we are all trying to help, is taking steps that jeopardize the interests of individual EU members?"

Not if it is not a souvereign country, but run by USrael's fifth column.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 16:15 | 5093970 jacship
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yats----------en-------------YUK

This is the same guy that wanted to nuke the eastern Ukrainians,

noodlemans guy

she said *UCK the EU.

so guess whats about to happen

Gaswars  014.0

EU going to FReeze

EU   Euro goes bellyup

US  Dollar goes bellyup

IMF gets NWO WAR

No bunker

No Problem

 

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 16:37 | 5094108 NoWayJose
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Long EU Ski Resorts -- there will be lots of German factory workers with unexpected time off this vinter!

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 16:58 | 5094200 talisman
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This is not Ukraine shooting itself in the foot as it might appear at first glance. Rather,  all is going smoothy according to orders from Washington.
In explanation, here is a bit of history:

In the late '70's/early80's, when USSR started building major gas transmission pipeline from Siberia to reach European markets, Reagan strongly opposed the Soviet pipeline plans considering them a threat to the balance of energy trade in Europe and a weakening US hegemonic domination of Europe. Attempting to dissuade European countries from participating in the pipeline project, Reagan held “woodshed” talks with West German and French heads of state at the 1981 Economic Summit, but when they refused to kiss Reagan's butt and boycott the pipeline, Reagan imposed trade sanctions covering all subsidiaries and licensees of US companies supplying the project, saying: "Well, they can have their damned pipeline. But not with American equipment and not with American technology”. These sanctions prohibited over 20 European companies from exporting any equipment to the USSR that made use of American technology or components, including those already shipped to Europe.

The pipeline got built anyway.

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 17:22 | 5094281 talisman
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Does anyone seriously think that Victoria Nuland's zioNazi puppet regime would dare take any independent action without following orders from Washington??

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 17:42 | 5094347 Bankster Kibble
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This is also a short term ploy to force EU into sanctions a la Ukraine and USA.  USA is finessing tougher sanctions through Ukraine's gas transit blackmail.  Everybody knows EU countries try to soften the sanctions against Russia.  This will make them, if they want to still "be friends" with USA, toe the line and toughen their sanctions to match their masters in D.C.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 17:21 | 5094271 JohninMK
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There is a general assumption that the US is in control in Kiev.

What if the new people in power there have 'gone native', thinking for themselves that the best way to boost help from UNATO is to threaten the gas supply, blaming it on Russia? Perhaps we should be watching out for a few unexplained deaths in Kiev.

I am convinced that there is no way that Putin will break the (fixed price?) gas supply contracts to the EU. Ukraine yes, they owe Russia too much. In his mind Russia's name is its bond. Remember, like it used to be in the West, shake hands and it was a done deal. Not sure how they incorporate that in the CIA war models.

Part of his response to the US provocations is to demonstrate that he can be trusted as a good friend, unlike the US and the West. He is doing a pretty good job of it too.

On here we tend to equate Putin with chess and O with chequers, but chess is a game with known strategies and plans, perhaps we should change it to Poker and Snap.

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 17:36 | 5094321 JohninMK
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Has someone blinked?

MOSCOW, August 14 (RIA Novosti) - The presidents of the European Commission, Russia and Ukraine have agreed to hold talks on gas supplies, EU-Ukraine trade pact as well as on the current situation in Ukraine, the European Commission said on Thursday.

"President Barroso and President Putin spoke today on the phone. It was agreed to hold consultations between the Presidents of Russia, Ukraine and the European Commission on the issues related with the implementation of the Association Agreement as well as on the supply of gas, in parallel with the efforts to stabilise the political and security situation," the statement said.

"The concrete arrangements for these talks will be further discussed through the appropriate diplomatic channels," the document said.

The Kremlin later confirmed phone talks between Putin and Barroso on issues related to Ukraine's European integration.

"The sides addressed important issues of relations between Russia and the European Union, including the consequences of the Association Agreement that Kiev signed with the EU," Kremlin said.

Ukraine signed the agreement on its association with the EU on June 27. Russia voiced concern over the economic loss the new association would present for it by triggering an uncontrolled flow of duty-free goods. Moscow presented Kiev a list of potential risks that Ukraine’s association with the European Union could present.

Earlier, Alexander Tsybulsky, Head of Department of the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation, told RIA Novosti that Russia does not see Ukraine's desire to continue the dialogue on removing risks of the Association Agreement for mutual trade.

http://en.ria.ru/politics/20140815/192018846/EC-Russia-Ukraine-Agree-to-...

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 19:41 | 5094794 Jack4952
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I think this decision by Ukraine Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Victoria Nuland's (of the U.S. State Department) personal choice for the post-coup Prime Minister , may very well lead to a WAR against Ukraine -- by the EUROPEAN nations!!!

EVERY nation with the European Union (EU), including France and Germany, have faltering economies. Italy id technically in another recession and some EU leaders have stated that the ONLY way Italy will ever recover economically is to withdraw from the Euro and re-establish the Lira as its currency. (Of course, many economists and realists such as most ZeroHedge.com readers have been saying this for several years now - but what do WE know?)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Two days ago I wrote the following:

Russia (that is, Gazprom) has officially halted all transfers of Russian natural gas to Ukraine. HOWEVER, since most of the pipelines to the rest of Europe travel through Ukraine, it is easy enough for the Kiev government to siphon off whatever amounts it wishes. And yes, the amount owed now exceeds $4.5 billion USD. The current cost to Ukraine is about $1.2 billion USD when the gas is actually flowing.

Britain doesn't much care, as it has the northern pipeline running directly from Russia to Britain.

The Southstream pipeline currently under construction will by-pass Ukraine completely. Its route from Russia, across the Black Sea, then into Bulgaria, then Serbia, along with additional pipelines extending into Hungary, Baumgartenin Austria - right on the border with Slovakia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, CroatiaSlovenia and even into Tarvisio in Italy will supply all of these nations with an uninterrupted supply of natural gas.

THAT is why the Kiev government, the EU Commission and the U.S. government have "persuaded" Bulgaria to suspend construction of the Southstream pipeline in Bulgaria. Obviously, completion of this pipeline would remove Kiev's ability to "blackmail" the western European countries via theats of cutting off their natural gas supplies. Further, since these nations now PAY the Kiev government a "transit fee" on all gas flowing through Ukraine, the cost of gas via the Southstream pipeline to these nations would decrease. And Kiev would lose billions of U.S. dollars each year in such "transit fees".

Should the U.S. government succeed in stopping the Southstream pipeline AND in controlling the gas pipelines within Ukraine (via political means or actual ownership by "privatization", as mandated by the IMF re: its recent $17 billion loan to Kiev), the U.S. would not only significantly hurt the Russian economy, but gain control of all the economies of western Europe!

The old adage, "Never discount your enemy." applies here. The U.S. policy may seem haphazard and actually quite INSANE, but it is succeeds the U,S. and international bankers will have significantly degraded Russia's economic influence AND gained significant political and economic advantage over all of the western European nations. NOT so dumb after all !!!

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

I think (and sincerely hope) that the nations of Europe will now realize that the U.S. government's policy, as put forth by Yatsenyuk's latest proposal, will KILL OFF Europe economically. It is in the self-interest of all nations of western Europe to:

1.) end these sanctions against Russia,

2.) support the completion of Russia's Southstream pipeline and,

3.) if necessary, remove Yatsenyuk and his allies from power in Kiev.

 

 

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 20:06 | 5094962 theyjustcantstop
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wasn't it on the news, or in print when nuland said fck the eu, and their nato reps. were confirming what was happening in kiev, and seemed ok with it.

the eu maybe short on gas this winter, but i suspect theres going to be plenty of political, and public heat.

 

Thu, 08/14/2014 - 22:30 | 5095637 AdvancingTime
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Putin should feel good about this move because Ukraine is making it hard for Europe to get behind them.

Don't hold your breath for Putin to back-off or back-down, he has put down his marker and is now playing both Obama and Kerry for fools in a contest that cost Russia little. Putin wants a path or land link to Crimea and if he doesn't get Eastern Ukraine next week he will next month or next year at the latest. Putin holds all the cards and time is on his side. More on this subject in the article below.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/putin-holds-all-cards.html

 

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