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Ferguson Police Release Surveillance Video Of Alleged Mike Brown Robbery - Press Conference Live Feed

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Having released the name of the police officer that allegedly shot and killed Michael Brown in Ferguson, the local police department has released the convenience store surveillance video that appears to show an altercation involving Brown.



And here is the press conference Q&A...


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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:14 | 5099056 vortmax
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"Altercation?" Looks like a strong-arm robbery to me. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:18 | 5099075 power steering
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Cute little kid. He was just getting Az Ice Tea, Skittles (and some Robitussin)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:23 | 5099107 InjectTheVenom
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Trayvon 2 , coming to a theater near you soon . . . . .

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:25 | 5099128 Save_America1st
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so now is it safe to assume that this was the same store that the homies burned down during the first riot because the store owner had turned him in for robbing the place???

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:32 | 5099162 hedgeless_horseman
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It is now apparent to me that the eye witness is a liar.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:34 | 5099166 Pladizow
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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:40 | 5099191 ZerOhead
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It's simply amazing how quickly the authorites can get damning information out to the public when it suits their purposes.

Still waiting for those MH17 cockpit voice recordings and Kiev Air Traffic conversations BTW...

You know... when you have the time...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:42 | 5099224 COSMOS
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:46 | 5099256 gh0atrider
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How is a young G coming up in the hood supposed to make it?  The answer is simple my friends...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:50 | 5099284 Citxmech
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@ $490.00?  

The idea is to buy low and sell high, not the other way around.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:50 | 5099291 Suisse
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It was $580 the other day, there has been a significant pullback on pricing.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:52 | 5099311 gh0atrider
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This is bullshit as all BTC news lately has been positive but very good for people looking to get into Cheapcoinz today!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:59 | 5099350 James_Cole
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Oh I get it, he may have stolen some candy so police waz totally justified in shooting him multiple times. In us&a, no justice system necessary - just like every other third world country.

::BREAKING:: photograph of police officer directly after shooting:

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:02 | 5099370 gh0atrider
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hey hey Bitcoin.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:15 | 5099452 Pool Shark
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If Obama had a son; he'd be robbing liquor stores too...


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:18 | 5099463 kaiserhoff
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Fascinating.  It is an "alleged" robbery, even though the action could not be more clear.

But yesterday, the cop was already guilty of MURDER!

New Yawkers biased much?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:21 | 5099482 MillionDollarBogus_
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Interesting comment; 

 "The insurer will have to decide if the riots are a one-time event, or something likely to be repeated, he noted."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:44 | 5099614 I am more equal...
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Al Sharpton and the NAACP know how to pick a winner.  This kid was a thug.  Eventually probability plays itself out - and you get shot for being a criminal.  What's wrong with this world?  Justice led to rest in peace.  The thug now knows justice.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:55 | 5099686 BellyBrain
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The police story is that the cop found him at 12:01 pm after the 9/11 call.  The guy walks out of the store at 11:54 am.  Figure one minute for the 9/11 call to happen and be dispatched.  So we're all supposed to believe that the cop found the right black dude in 6 minutes, and since he stole something, shooting was justifiable.  Okey dokey...  This whole thing smells like a psy-op. 

The St. Louis Riots: Where's COINTELPRO



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:37 | 5099845 NotApplicable
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AS REPORTED, the cop didn't know about the robbery, he just drove up on him in the middle of the street. Meanwhile, it looks like Brown wasn't in a mood to take shit off of no one.

My only question is why did it take them so long to release this footage, when it would've done more to defuse the situation than anything they did this week?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:50 | 5099891 Keyser
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More of the same "watch the shiny object" with the cops rolling out this video... Just how is this video pertinent to the shooting incident? Not at all is the answer... 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:38 | 5100877 GoldenTool
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Takes a while to wade through all that NSA data and find the relevent stuff.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:48 | 5100099 nmewn
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"Figure one minute for the 9/11 call to happen and be dispatched.  So we're all supposed to believe that the cop found the right black dude in 6 minutes,..."

He did though didn't he?...and I'm not even sure the cop knew what he had done.

"...and since he stole something, shooting was justifiable."

As soon as he put a finger on the store keeper it became a strong arm robbery, instead of simple shoplifting. 

"Okey dokey...  This whole thing smells like a psy-op."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:00 | 5100133 kaiserhoff
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The cop is black, nmewn, couldn't be better.  It should make all the libs feel like the hypocritical, bigoted, idiot, racists that they are.  They were so hoping to crucify a white cop.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:09 | 5100154 nmewn
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Is he? almost posited that the other night when they said they wouldn't release his name, for his safety.

It just gets better & better with "progressives"...going off half-cocked again, now the moonbats are coming out screeching about a psy-op. Obviously the store owner is a figment of our imagination!

We're so gullible ;-) 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:54 | 5101034 Kobe Beef
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Some Columbia PhD will just coin a new meme, like "institutional racism", and add it to the Liberal Orthodoxy. The poor negro policeman wuz brainwashed into accepting the institutional waycism of the Ferguson PD, leading to this tragedy.

You know, because blacks never have agency, and nobody is allowed to notice they constitute 80% of the criminals in St. Louis.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:16 | 5101215 ILoveDebt
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It's always funny to see where people's alliance falls when sn act is detrimental to multiple points of view.  Apparently you would rather hate liberals than be pissed that a miltarized police state can shoot unarmed people at will.


He might have been guilty of strong arming a cashier and robbing a  store. The shooter may have been black.  It doesn't change that neither shooting blacks if your black or shooting a guy for robbing a store is permissable in this country, or at least it shouldn't be.  


Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:44 | 5101540 nmewn
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I don't need to defend my hatred & disgust of "progressives" to anyone (including you)...mainly because you're too damned stupid to understand how I come about it. Its the same type of stupidity that allows you to jump to the side of of a strong armed robber gobble up everything spoon fed to you by the Propaganda Ministry.

Black or white or right or wrong makes no difference to "progressives" like you who only care about the "sympathy quotient" involved but to what end is the question your kind should be asking yourself. From before the Duke lacrosse case, to Gates to Zimmerman to now Ferguson you need to ask yourself how can "progressives" and the state controlled media get it exactly backwards time after time.

As far as right & wrong, leadership, the militarization of police, I said it all right here long before you dropped this smelly herring of an undetermined hue on the table:

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 20:24 | 5100467 flyingcaveman
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That's not the psy-op part though.  Its the 'anonymous' group releasing the dispatch tapes to make it sound like some funny business going on.  The fake names of the officers on a CIA hosted website I guess to see who is going to pick up whatever they are laying down.   Seems like it was allowed  to let happen, by controlling how and when information/disinformation is released.   When you hear in the media that the police shot somebody's baby in the back 8 times and then you hear crickets from the police...... What do you expect?   

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:03 | 5100786 jballz
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Can we add YAAFM to the handbook?


You are a fucking moron.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:55 | 5100118 silverserfer
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where is the outrage from the black community with every other hood that gets murdered on the streeet. the wild west is alive and well. the word justified comes to mind with situations like this.   

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:28 | 5099523 Son of Loki
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The Paki sure showed him who’s Boss !!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:09 | 5099945 Supernova Born
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The nearby QuikTrip is hiring due to increased business from the burned to the ground status of this QuikTrip.

$7.50 hour. 

...and they say there are no good jobs.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:04 | 5101190 DriveByLurker
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Better still - they're offering $7.50 an hour plus all the bullets you can catch!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:47 | 5100094 WhackoWarner
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Yeah well Obama don'tg need no stinking son. He is robbing all on hiis own steam.  And hitting higher/richer targets.  His ambition?  To be the first "court jester".  Cause we all know who the "court" is.

Need a hint? Look at Fed. and then look deeper. Like back a few 100 years. Like look back. follow the money.  Obama is nothing but a willing monkey, and seen as such. Go play golf and feel important.  Because you have to be made to feel important. After all you are the "leader" teleprompter of your future fucked-up payback,

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:37 | 5101310 FreedomGuy
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Agreed, Pool Shark. And Eric Holder would be in charge of the investigation.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:19 | 5099470 theeseer
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Hey James come on down to my hood and bring your cash. We love bleeding heart liberals especially when they give us their money and bleed. We got them 300 pound 6'10'' handsome boys that know how to shake you hand while they take your money. No need to call a cop because the folks will claim that you like the small shop owner was a racist and everyone can go out an loot some more. Hey thanks Barack for immediately taking the right side. Every policeman needs a beating from huge thieving Blackman to learn "restraint". You have to know from the video that the cop was about to get a "courtesy" lesson from our boy Michael. What right did he have to defend himself or protect the shop owner? Don'tmiss tonight's riot it will be fun. Al Sharpton might attend rigth after he steals some more and gets another sanction from Congress. Boy the community sure keeps busy.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:24 | 5099499 James_Cole
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What y'all dumbasses need to do is spend some time in a real police state and get to know a) your future b) how they justify it. If you're rich, that's all good. But if you're poor it ain't gunna be great. How to tell if you're poor? Ever once noticed food inflation? Yes? Very high probabilitiy you're poor!


I was curious how the propagandists would swing the public on ferguson, and once again hats off. You brain-dead ‘libertarian’ zh’ers are already buying it wholeheartedly, can’t even imagine the furor on cnn.

What?? He stole candy?? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING. Bring back the tanks to protect us!!


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:43 | 5099576 fonzannoon
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James you are a bit heavy with the drama. Nobody said bring the tanks back because the guy stole candy. But just like the trayvon thing when they released the photo of him when he was 7 this guy was no angel when you see reality. Did he deserve to be shot in the back as he was running away? No. But how do we know what the real story was? We don't. But it is clear there are two sides to it.

I'd much rather the store owner just have walked behind teh counter and got a shotgun and blown his brains out and saved everyone the trouble.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:42 | 5099608 James_Cole
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No. But how do we know what the real story was? We don't. But it is clear there are two sides to it.

What you're referring to is not two sides, they are two separate issues. Conflating the two is being done to justify homicide by the police. 

Also, to the seer above in his profile he points out he is living in mendellin. O the irony! The exact type asshole I was referring to. But being a 'rich' asshole expatriate in colombia and benefiting from the police state to be able to live like a monarch is relatively cheap. In us&a you gotta have real money to do that. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:47 | 5099633 fonzannoon
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Funny that you completely avoided the part about the owner of the store being able to defend himself. If that was allowed to happen then we would not be where we are today. Since we now rely on the police and have taken away people's ability to sort things out on there own we are heading down a dangerous path. That is the point you seem to keep missing.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:52 | 5099666 James_Cole
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Funny that you completely avoided the part about the owner of the store being able to defend himself.

Another separate issue. 

The only point I find important is whether the police were justified in shooting this kid - and since they won't release the autopsy we can't know for sure - allegedly multiple times. Then, was the militarized response justified? Was the no fly zone justified? Arresting reporters? Etc. etc.

If you want to talk about citizens defending their property sure whatever I have no issue with that. We don't know what happened in the store or the situation with the store owner, but I have no problem with the owner (or clerk / whatever the guy in the video) having a gun if that's what you're trying to get at. 

I should underline that as it seems to come up often, I support gun ownership.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:55 | 5099683 fonzannoon
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you can't separate those two issues. If everyone excercises the right to defend themselves and their property that in and of itself eliminates the police state and militarization of it. Thats the point. The issue is one and the same.

The minute you take the first part away the second one is bound to manifest itself. 


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:03 | 5099730 James_Cole
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you can't separate those two issues.

If the store employee / owner shot him that would make sense. It seems you're saying If everyone excercises the right to defend themselves and their property the police wouldn't need to be brought in. But that is separate from the police action / response.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:14 | 5099766 fonzannoon
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response to what? The dead guy on the floor of the store?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:41 | 5099860 James_Cole
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This is like getting hung up on conditional probability... The second event (and beyond - military response etc.) is independent and has its own specific set of variables not necessarily related to the first even if you're connecting them in your mind. 

Let's take an event unrelated to gun rights where we can all agree the original action the police responded to was totally extreme - the Boston marathon bombing. Here we can quite definitevly cut out any direct connection to gun rights while seeing the same outcome. Again, police will argue they were right to respond so heavily in Boston and many people will agree. 

There are lots of examples, as guest zh articles often point out it's a larger trend of police militarization. The trend is the issue I'm getting at and the police ALWAYS justify it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:55 | 5099908 fonzannoon
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Of course they justify it. WTF are you going to do about it? It's a 1% world now and the police are their well paid mafia, and now they have all the best toys. You think they are going to risk their pension from a stray bullet when they can pull up with a tank and shoot a bubber bullet up your ass? Your civil liberties have been chipped away for years. Nothing you or I or anyone else can do about it now. 

I don't get you. You want to rip the libertarians on here and at the same time bitch and moan about the police response being extreme? Really?


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:15 | 5099982 James_Cole
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You think they are going to risk their pension from a stray bullet when they can pull up with a tank and shoot a bubber bullet up your ass? Your civil liberties have been chipped away for years. Nothing you or I or anyone else can do about it now. 

People aren't powerless drones, the PR machine on the .gov side is excellent but not omnipotent. 

I don't get you. You want to rip the libertarians on here and at the same time bitch and moan about the police response being extreme? Really?

I don't have an issue with libertarians, I have disagreement with 'libertarians' who think an insane military police response is more or less justified because the kid may have stolen some cigars while being a scary big black guy.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:24 | 5100022 fonzannoon
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"I have disagreement with 'libertarians' who think an insane military police response is more or less justified because the kid may have stolen some cigars while being a scary big black guy."

who are you referring to that feels that way?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:42 | 5100075 James_Cole
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who are you referring to that feels that way?

About half the zh crowd, anyone who's been on here a while sees them routinely.

At once talking about .gov destroying freedom and how the country needs to be more libertarian...then talking about what a swell guy putin is, jews being the cause of all the worlds problems, blacks are extremely dangerous and need to be bombed off the face of the earth, border needs a major military policing presence to keep out..there's a long list, anyone not christian is dangerous, obama has almost single handedly destroyed america it goes on and on.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:00 | 5100138 nmewn
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Thats quite a

For the record, I think .gov is suppressing our liberty & freedom, Putin is a fucking snake, jooo's do not control the world, blacks are no more extremely dangerous than me, the border does need to be strengthened (as promised by .gov the last time "amnesty" was done), the majority of nazis were christian though its obvious the leaders were not and Obama has done more damage to the economy & our society than ANY previous president.

Now, what does that make me? ;-)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:40 | 5100294 James_Cole
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Now, what does that make me? ;-)

A moderate republican.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 20:01 | 5100369 nmewn
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Really? reason to be insulting ;-)

Moderate republicans want blanket amnesty (just like "progressives") I don't. Moderate republicans, think a police state is the surest means for public safety, I don't. Moderate republicans, think they can negotiate my freedom & liberty away one small piece at a time so as they outrrun what they leave to their children, I don't. Moderate republicans are cool with bailing out GM & Wall Street, I wasn't.

A moderate republican is no different from all the things I hate about "progressives".

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 20:19 | 5100450 James_Cole
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K, whatever. From what you've claimed in the past (and said up thread) I've always chalked you up as a moderate-ish republican.

I question a number of the statements you have made direcftly but not worth arguing, don't care what people claim about themselves in broad terms. People can only start to be figured out from what they say on issues at hand.

Ideologically people think they're one particular way but in the nitty gritty often they're not. Goes for all political stripes. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 21:42 | 5100739 Paveway IV
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I have nothing to add to the discussion. I just wanted the skinniest post on this thread. 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 09:04 | 5100766 nmewn
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I think I've been pretty consistent & open about who I am and what I believe.

Just because I put "a large black man" in the emergency room with a cracked skull DOES NOT make me a razzzist. Just because I've done more drugs in my past than probably 99% here on ZH DOES NOT make me a dope fiend OR them prudes. Just because I am not a pacifist DOES NOT make me a neocon. Just because I can respect anothers beliefs DOES NOT mean I accept them as my own. Just because I used to believe in the rule of law DOES NOT make me a criminal now that the law has been set upon me.

There is no other way to make someone like you understand me, so this will be my last time trying.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:57 | 5099915 Socratic Dog
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I reckon Cole is right and Fonz is wrong on this one.  For what it's worth.  Steal candy, get justifiably executed by a thug in black?  I don't think so.  The crack about so-called ZH libertarians is right on the money.  They're practically begging to have the tanks brought back.

At least when the ghetto blacks get pissed off at authority, they have the balls to riot.  When will mainstream USSA grow a pair?  Bundy Ranch was good start.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:04 | 5099935 fonzannoon
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For whatever it's worth I could not disagree with you more. Where the fuck on here is anyone practically begging to bring the tanks back?

I think the irony involves liberals complaining about the police state, when they have been some of the biggest enablers of it over the years. If that does not hit home with you then I guess it just is what it is.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:24 | 5100017 James_Cole
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Lots of posters are more or less claiming it was justified because of the scary black people, vandalism and now 'robbery' aspect. The comment I was responding to initially (seer was being sarcastic):

Every policeman needs a beating from huge thieving Blackman to learn "restraint". You have to know from the video that the cop was about to get a "courtesy" lesson from our boy Michael. What right did he have to defend himself or protect the shop owner? 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:08 | 5100147 LetThemEatRand
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Guys, guys.  You're both right.   Cops are a good thing.  I personally don't want to live in the wild west.  The police state is a bad thing.  We don't need tanks in St. Louis.   It's all about balance.   This story proves beyond any doubt in my mind that the "end all government" crowd is wrong, by their own admission.  We all want protection from thugs.  It also proves that the police state is out of control.  We need to get back to balance.  Checks and.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:56 | 5100933 nmewn
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Checks & balances huh?

So, you're not going to scream like a bitch on fire when everything done in the last six years is undone in one year?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:39 | 5100070 Citxmech
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Godisanhftbot seemed to think we should all be deleriously happy for our police state and even beg for some more.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:08 | 5099744 BolanosGhost
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If everyone excercises the right to defend themselves and their property that in and of itself eliminates the police state and militarization of it.

That isn't the reality under which these events occured though. Sure, maybe all of this could have been avoided if the world were like that. But it isn't, and we have to deal with the actions that individuals have taken in the reality that we have right now. You are discussing how this could have been avoided, but I think James is concerned with the reality that we have to deal with presently. They are separate issues even if the inciting even is the same.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:13 | 5099764 fonzannoon
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James was concerned with bashing libertarians and completly missed the basic premise of being libertarian.

As for the rest of it all, it is what it is. We are sliding into the abyss. With that comes the police state and everything else. This is how it goes. It won't be fixed. It will just get worse.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:46 | 5099882 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Not when the politicians and the law do everything possible to prevent you from being able to defend yourself 'legally' without throwing you in jail for manslaughter or allowing the family, robber(s) to sue you afterwards. People are easily bullied and given easy cope outs to not defend themselves. It is part of how government and owners roll when it comes to power and control. The police state wouldn't be able to exist if people weren't easily terrorized. You have a bigger societal problem at hand here.

Besides I guess you never lived in ghetto or you'd know you shoot a local the cops ain't going to watch your back if his buddies retaliate especially if the guy happened to be a gang banger. You are on your own. Unless the whole local neighborhood is on board with the self defense community unity watching each other backs that guy's safest choice was to just let him have box of cigars or whatever it was he stole. It was petty larcency anyways and caught on videotape not worth the risk once it got to that point. He could have filed an insurance claim for what was stolen.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:00 | 5099928 fonzannoon
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I agree with your first paragraph. I think that is all part of the plan.

As for the second paragraph, I did not say the cops would watch you back. So yeah, like LOP always says you better be around a dependable clan. Not much else you can do. You can let that guy go and bet your ass he will be back. Maybe next time he's back he is high and has a gun and is in a bad mood. Good luck.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:39 | 5099586 Syrin
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Show me one comment that justifies the police state.   I for one am FAR more conserned by the police reaction than the specifics of the incident.   They declared a no fly zone, and cops stood by allowing looting to happen.   DHS insiders are admitting they had agent provocateurs posing as Black Panther members encouraging looting.   This wasn't about enforcing the peace but about demonstrating who had the biggest guns and who was in charge.   They didn't even roll out the big stuff in the form of armed drones and DARPA robots.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:50 | 5099590 fonzannoon
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I am far more concerned at that store owner's inability to defend himself.

ah..crickets...that's what I thought James. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:06 | 5099737 Citxmech
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Speaking of militarized police - check out this link to the "Stillwater Police Department" and note the embedded recruitment video:



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:44 | 5101048 California Nigh...
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I'm usually down on the cops and sympathetic to the alleged perps, but in this case, no way would i convict a cop based on some slime bucket's testimony.

On the face of it, the officer was doing the nation a favor by offing the "gentle giant".

Gentle giant, my ass.

We have too many gentle fucking giants on the streets. Fuck all of them, 

Salute to the  brave cops who take them on. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:36 | 5099577 BolanosGhost
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Not sure why you're getting trashed. Its sad how quickly people fall for the deflection and justification of excessive force. The beat cop had no clue who that kid was at the time. Was he involved in the robbery? Maybe - I don't know what he looked like that day other than standard hood attire. In either case, its not the media's responsibility to pass judgement on whether or not that is actually him in the video to begin with. Was being shot multiple times a valid use of force for the situation? Fuck no. And where is the police report? Did the officer find stolen convenience store goods at the scene? Observers wouldn't have to speculate so much if it was standard for cops to have audio and video recording on their person while on duty.

Instead the coverage has continued with race-baiting on both sides and unsubstantiated speculation.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:57 | 5099912 PrintemDano
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May have stolen some candy?  You're no better than him, a vile POS.   I would think many lives were saved by removing this vile gang banging career criminal from society,yet you automatically assume the cop a cold blooded killer based on the eyewitness testimony of other gang banging vermin.  Smarts ain't in your DNA.  How many times you been locked up?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:25 | 5100018 Coletrane
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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 20:53 | 5100587 logicalman
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Death penalty for ripping off a convenience store seems a bit excessive - that's assuming his guilt, which I'm not.

But then, we are talking about the US and their 'protect and serve' thug police force.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:05 | 5100946 Moustache Rides
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"well what was he doing with the poundcake then?" -- Bill Cosby

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:32 | 5101015 Georgiabelle
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Here is the officer's side of the story via a family friend:

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:59 | 5099355 MalteseFalcon
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This is still no reason for a death sentence handed out in the street or for the militarization of police all over the US.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:56 | 5099691 Matt
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You're right, they should have spent $100,000 a year to keep him in jail. You payin?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:07 | 5099740 Citxmech
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By all means - why don't we just eliminate due process all together.  It'll be so much cheaper that way.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:00 | 5099926 PrintemDano
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Perhaps the scumbag gang banger was actually involved in a crime at the time he was shot.  Nah, a nice boy like that would never try to score points with his Blood buddies by trying to shoot a cop.  The eye witness gang bangers must be telling the truth, after all why would they lie?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:58 | 5099345 Uncle Sugar
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Call me when bitcoin isn't quoted in Bernie Bucks anymore

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:59 | 5099358 gh0atrider
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Why would you want to wait for that to happen?  Because you enjoy missing the train?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:20 | 5099475 Citxmech
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So far, this has been one train I'm happy not to be on.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:24 | 5099506 gh0atrider
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Good.  We don't want pussies and we don't need 'em.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:03 | 5099719 Citxmech
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OK tough guy - go ahead and ride that train right off the cliff . . . 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:55 | 5100124 toothpicker
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Hoe the fuxyxxx did this become a bitcoin issue? Gold, that's another thing....

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:01 | 5100139 Citxmech
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Ask Gh0atrider.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:42 | 5099861 Uncle Sugar
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If it can be equated to $$, then they control the game. They can spike it today and crash it tomorrow. If you don't know who the sucker is at the table...


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:53 | 5099317 y3maxx
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...Just another USSA Distraction from the real issue at hand.

America will go to World War to protect its US Dollar as the World currency reserve fiat.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:58 | 5099351 gh0atrider
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And yet USSA is totally powerless against the supreme Bitcoin.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:43 | 5099230 gh0atrider
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As someone who has a lengthy criminal record, gh0atrider can tell you that if you buy Bitcoin today you won't need to steal cigars anymore.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:51 | 5099294 Citxmech
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The upside has been so stunning lately, hasn't it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:53 | 5099322 gh0atrider
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Yes the upside has and will continue to be great for people who can think longer than 3 months.  So in otherwords, most of the dipshits on this blog don't count.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:21 | 5099480 Citxmech
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I'll stick with PMs due to my short-term outlook, thank you.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:33 | 5099546 stormsailor
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i resent being called a dip

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:34 | 5099548 outamyeffinway
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Z'hedgers have long hated BTC and other forms of freedom. One of the great enigmas about this blog.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:42 | 5099231 power steering
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Since it was shot down by Ukranians it doesn't fit the narrative they've constructed. Besides Obama would exposed as a knee jerk know nothing.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:55 | 5099267 Latina Lover
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MH17 was supposed to crash in Russia so that Putin could be blamed but the incompetent Ukies fucked up the false flag. 

This is why, for example, early newscasts take Russia to task for not allowing immediate access to the crash site, when in fact MH17 crashed in the Ukraine.  The shill journists didn't get the updated memo fast enough and were parroting the wrong outdated talking points.


Remember this gem? Chris Cuomo of CNN, asking why Russia did not condemn the way the MH17 crime scene was being handled?  Peter Lavelle of RT replied that the crime scene was in Ukraine, not Russia so Putin had no control over it. You just can't make this shit up.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:08 | 5099399 MarsInScorpio
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Chris CUOMO?


Any relation to any other Cuomo we've read about? You know, kind of like BSNBC and the Clinton child . . .


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:17 | 5099456 EverythingEviL
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No shit...we'll only get those tapes after fucking months of doctoring efforts by these government fucktards

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:34 | 5099556 outamyeffinway
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Yes, like the moon landings.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:34 | 5100050 ebear
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and the secret bases on Titan

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:51 | 5099658 mttendoy
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They will be released with the photos of dead Osama and the Video of the Boston bombers dropping their backpacks.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:56 | 5099689 mttendoy
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They will be released with the photos of dead Osama and the Video of the Boston bombers dropping their backpacks.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:21 | 5099997 GeorgeHayduke
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"It's simply amazing how quickly the authorites can get damning information out to the public when it suits their purposes."

And still we wait for the video footage of the jet flying into the Pentagon that they stole from every place nearby on 911. Amongst many other revelations...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 20:20 | 5100441 DaveyJones
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as George points out, the government would never be evidence selective

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:37 | 5099199 max2205
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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:58 | 5099347 Keyser
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The umpa-lumpas are restless in Gotham City tonight... 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:35 | 5099174 McMolotov
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One thing we can all agree on at this point is that Mike Brown was a seriously big black dude, and the clerk was... not. Dude looked tiny in comparison.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:49 | 5099255 hobopants
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I don't care if the kid was a rapist with multiple priors, hell I don't care about the kid at all. Thats the problem with this stupid crap, we've gone from a conversation about something that affects us all (militarization of the police) to talking about an issue that doesn't matter at all (the past behavior of a dead guy).

I wish we could keep our eye on the ball for once.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:03 | 5099376 Herd Redirectio...
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Why aren't both a problem?

Both the crime, and the 'justice'?

Classic Divide and Conquer, guys...  The looting was wrong, the robbery was wrong, and his shooting was excessive. 



Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:09 | 5099409 McMolotov
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Exactly. This fiasco serves as a good preview of how all sides will react when the wheels really come off the Great Ponzi. It will not be pretty.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:40 | 5099831 hobopants
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Because one is institutional and the other is the action of an indivdual. I can guarantee you that Big Mike will not be a problem for you in the future, but a bunch of power crazy cops with left over military gear? ya big problem.


Focus on what is important and disregard the noise.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 20:25 | 5100471 DaveyJones
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well said, was having this same debate today. Maybe it's the constitutional / criminal lawyer in me, but a cop killing a citizen (of any color) without cause is nothing new. A local police force that puts baghdad's gear to shame is not. DO the powers that be know somehting we don't? Do they anticipate more extreme social and economic pressure? Do they solve it by fixing captialism and democracy or enlarge their bankers pay and grow their police and prisons?   

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 10:08 | 5101719 Liberty2012
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Thuggery has become institutional as well. And ignoring or minimizing that phenomenon may be the biggest problem of all.

Thuggery of all kinds is detrimental and dangerous.

Once someone decides that other people's rights are unimportant, then they have effectively removed themselves from civilization.

Edit - see the Kevin Bacon movie Sleepers to see how some kids "playing pranks" found this out the hard way - warning, it is a very disturbing movie (and very well done)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:44 | 5099872 NotApplicable
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After watching this video, we have no idea if the shooting was excessive or not. Given Brown's aggression toward the store owner, it is entirely possible he went full-retard on the cop. He might've been going after the gun during every shot, for all we know.

The autopsy report should help at least clear up the "shot him as he was running away" allegation.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 20:28 | 5100488 DaveyJones
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unfortunately the coroner is also dead. He was shot reaching for the guards gun

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:56 | 5099275 Squid Viscous
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big, and slow, and dumb, just get him outside and dance around him with some quick jabs and shin kicks, preferably w/ steel tipped combat boots... and watch out for a cheap shot from one of his buds...

or just shoot him...that worked pretty well too

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:44 | 5099239 photonsoflight
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Why didn't they release this to begin with? Could have avoided the whole dam mess.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:49 | 5099283 Took Red Pill
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Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:52 | 5099314 Citxmech
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I'm still waiting for the excuse why the shooting wasn't called in.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:43 | 5099610 BolanosGhost
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I'd like to see if the police report mentions a box of swishers and a couple slim jims.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:14 | 5099979 quadratic_equation
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It wouldn't have avoided anything because an unarmed black man was shot by the police and that's the issue.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:35 | 5100057 PrintemDano
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The truth matters not to people hell bent on looting.....

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:38 | 5100293 flyingcaveman
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Do you want to try out this new LRAD and the pepper ball gun or not? 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:03 | 5099374 grgy
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Such a polished and articulate young man would have to be believed. (sarc)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:37 | 5099547 Son of Loki
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Use of your throat to defend yourself is an ancient Pakistani martial arts trick. I hope they don’t charge the Paki with assault.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:15 | 5099454 teslaberry
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but the real crazy shit is the possibilty he is being paid by stakeholders who WANT conflict . 


i don't see how the black community benefits from conflict. i don't see hwo the underclass and pesantry white and black benefit. 

cui bono?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:28 | 5099799 Blazed
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Yo dawg dude did it, you nohs dat nigga just be all niggtarded and sheet! Youknowwhatimsaying he just all crunk brained n sheet.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:08 | 5099954 Xanadu_doo
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yeah, brother.


How many shots do police sidearms hold agin, nd how many four-shot sequences does he talk about?

What a POS lying fruitcake.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:25 | 5100230 lostintheflood
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It is now apparent to me that the eye witness is a liar.

he may be a liar, i can't actually understand what he is saying...he wasn't the only witness...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:03 | 5100785 Aussie V
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Mate, I can't understand one word that guys say's!

Am I deaf or is he speaking another language other than english?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:08 | 5100799 Aussie V
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Mate, I can't understand one word that guy say's!

Am I deaf or is he speaking another language other than english?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 03:09 | 5101339 trader1
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"It is now apparent to me that the eye witness is a liar."


actually, he does mention that mike brown did steal "3 boxes of rillos".  here.

but, the cop who shot him had no idea he was connected to the roberry.

even still, i haven't seen a reasonable explanation provided by ferguson pd to justify the use deadly force.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:33 | 5099164 ziggy59
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If it was howd they get the tape?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:34 | 5099169 rfaze
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I'm sure that the people rioting will now see that they may have acted rashly and return everything that was stolen and pay for any needed repaiirs.....

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:52 | 5099306 toady
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I usually don't LOL, but when I do, it's at a comment like yours.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:23 | 5099483 bob_stl
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"is it safe to assume that this was the same store that the homies burned down during the first riot"


No, the guy who got robbed said that the theives were heading toward the QuickTrip which was the store that got burned down.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:45 | 5099611 Escrava Isaura
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Officer didn’t know teen was robbery suspect.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:17 | 5099983 Xanadu_doo
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Maybe or maybe not, but I bet he DID know he's a big-ass nigger kid who alredy has at least 4 arrests for robbery and aggrivated assult at age 18.

How many arrests did ZH readers have at 18?

The bigger issue is why dozens of black teen boys die every week in gang violence and no one cares. But when a white cop gets one, they're willing to brun down and terrorize their very own neighbothoods and that's OK?

Obummer and RevAlShrpie only fuel the fires.

At least it's a nice convenient distraction from Isreal/Gaza, Syria/Iraq/Iran/Quatar, Russia/Ukraine, border crisis, ebola crisis, economic crisis, etc., etc., etc.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:56 | 5100111 Escrava Isaura
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new Xanadu_doo


My post was responding to James_Cole who wrote: Oh I get it, he may have stolen some candy so police waz totally justified in shooting him multiple times.


So I was trying to point it up to Cole that the officer didn’t know about stolen candy.


Now, to answer your post:

By Dr. Park Dietz: “We’ve had 20 years of mass murders throughout which I have repeatedly told CNN and our other media, if you don’t want to propagate more mass murders, don’t start the story with sirens blaring. Don’t have photographs of the killer. Don’t make this 24/7 coverage. Do everything you can not to make the body count the lead story, not to make the killer some kind of anti-hero. Do localize the story to the affected community and make it as boring as possible in every other market. Because every time we have intense saturation coverage of a mass murder, we expect to see one or two more within a week.”

Try to implement anything similar within a society that loves spectacle.


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:29 | 5100264 lostintheflood
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I have repeatedly told CNN and our other media, if you don’t want to propagate more mass murders, don’t start the story with sirens blaring. Don’t have photographs of the killer. Don’t make this 24/7 coverage.


if it bleeds, it leads...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:57 | 5100127 PrintemDano
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Moot.  The "teen" knew he just robbed a store and certainly assumed that's why the cops were there.  Common sense he didn't want to get arrested and fought with the cop.  Resulting in thankfully one Dead thug.   

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:35 | 5099171 TBT or not TBT
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Zimmerman 2.   The officer is still alive, so the circus will continue.  

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:23 | 5099795 Freddie
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The officer is black - so he is home free.  If he were white or a white hispanic then the story would keep running.   F the media but idiots who watch TV keep the circus going.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:35 | 5099111 Squid Viscous
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just some Zrpin, on a rainy night... aint no big thang

"purple drank up in ma cup, blowin dank up in ma truck"

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:05 | 5099386 Herd Redirectio...
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Purple drank isn't just a name for grape juice, for the less streetwise out there.  Its alcohol w cough syrup, plus Jolly Ranchers/Skittles.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:25 | 5099511 Duffy
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What does adding the skittles do.  booze is booze - cough syrup - you can trip balls, dont know the chemical name...


why skuittles in the mix?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:45 | 5099622 Herd Redirectio...
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So it taste ni-zice.

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