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Ferguson Police Release Surveillance Video Of Alleged Mike Brown Robbery - Press Conference Live Feed

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Having released the name of the police officer that allegedly shot and killed Michael Brown in Ferguson, the local police department has released the convenience store surveillance video that appears to show an altercation involving Brown.

 

 

And here is the press conference Q&A...

 

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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:46 | 5099631 BolanosGhost
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DXM - i'd assume the candy makes it taste a little better

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:36 | 5099842 Agent P
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Thank you, holmes! 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:57 | 5099340 markpower49
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Expel all blacks to Africa, or the bottom of the sea. Either works for me.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:21 | 5099479 Ham-bone
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Please never post here again...and please never breed.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:26 | 5099517 Duffy
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sigh - one o the breitbart or drudge crowd, eh?

 

please, please fuck off. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:50 | 5099896 putaipan
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jeez louize people ..... get real. instead of projecting your worst fears and expectationsof black people, get all fuzzy optimistic . do you realize what a golden opprotunity exists in this moment? if black leaders sieze the moment and and make this about civil rights for all people, freedom of press for all people freedom from militaristic police and just remove race from the equation, the rest of america is primed and ready to join them.

 . no not sharpton, not jackson, you will know them by their expression and endorsement of the above.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:55 | 5100924 TeMpTeK
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He was just about to get his G.E.D and turn his life around!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:18 | 5099084 Silky Johnson
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Your assumption sickitates me!!!!!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:25 | 5099122 LasVegasDave
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Just another day in the life for a north american pavement ape.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:40 | 5099197 power steering
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The species is clearly unaware of the invention of surviellance video

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:38 | 5099202 Godisanhftbot
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 I liked Lous Costello

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:13 | 5099430 toady
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I believe the technical term is 'porch monkey'...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 21:52 | 5100760 mt paul
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north american pavement ape.

classic ,,,+1

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:28 | 5099131 Sophist Economicus
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This is just another example of some sick Zionist Joo disguised like a Middle Eastern type, trying to exploit children and the poor by manipulating them into buying is disgusting, bad for you, Monsanto fabricated fake food, Big Tobacco products, and Chem-trailed lottery tickets!   My research also found that several Central Bankers and some other nefarious NWO types that no-one ever identifies OWN THE REAL ESTATE!

Poor kid was then told to be rubber out by some sick, police state facisit who wakes up every morning just looking for the chance to put some lead inbetween the eyes of some non-gov type.    Probably by direct orders of Dick Cheney, who just does the bidding of these NWO types whose names we don't know, but that someone way up in Goldman Sachs does!   

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:36 | 5099185 Chewybunny
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Clearly Lizardfolk. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:38 | 5099203 pods
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English dude, in English.

pods

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:47 | 5099263 Heyoka
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It was about time the joos got blamed.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:09 | 5099412 Silky Johnson
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How much does an asshole make per paragraph these days?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:02 | 5099371 1000yrdstare
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Shouldn't his friend be charged with Homicide? he was involved in the robbery that ended his friends life?...too soon?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:38 | 5099851 MansaMusa
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So stealing some crackers and whatever else justifies getting shot 5-8 times???  So why no shots for the thieving bankers?  Oh I get it now...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:20 | 5100000 Lord Koos
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Only problem is, that is not the dead kid robbing the store.  Do some fucking homework.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:27 | 5100847 jballz
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If that was a strong arm robbery what was shooting him 8 times?

Once would have sufficed.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:49 | 5101441 hunglow
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Probably wasn't entered in the 

Global Entry™ Program.
Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:17 | 5101510 jerry_theking_lawler
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How does anyone in Ferguson that is rioting have the time to do this...???

 

oh, SNAP...etc,etc.

 

.gov is the problem, again. if these people had to get up and go to work every day to feed their families, then they wouldn't have time to loot, riot, etc. pretty simple.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 08:51 | 5101617 HomeBrewPrepper
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He was like twice the size of that poor store owner

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:14 | 5099062 Godisanhftbot
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 so what will all the self hating white liberal cunts have to say now?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:21 | 5099098 Dr. Richard Head
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I'm white (actually Irish-American), not liberal, but I would say that robbery is a crime with a victim and the police have a job to then capture the perp, take him/her to court, and let the courts (whatever the hell is left of them) sort out the verdict.  Judge Dread was supposed to just be a movie.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:24 | 5099115 john39
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yes, no liberal here, but i would expect that a true conservative would expect that the Constitution be followed...  with that quaint thing formerly known as a trial before a jury of peers...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:31 | 5099133 power steering
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Officer didn't know about the robbery BUT THE KID DID. He went for the gun! Forcible robbery is 5 years in most states

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:37 | 5099187 john39
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it might be a long time, if ever, before the facts come out...  which is why getting sucked in the details of one incident is pretty pointless.

what is worthwhile is looking at the bigger picture...  specifically the militarization of policing.  It started with the "war on drugs", which has been an total disaster...  and now, after 911, tptb want to shift these techniques to the entire population, to crush dissent when the collapse picks up speed.   They hope you embrace the change out of fear of poor blacks...  but in the end, it will be used against all of us.

but i also see something interesting in this event...  the Governor of Missouri went off the script and sent in the state patrol, with a more human approach, and the riots ended.   very telling.   time for police to go back to being police, scrap the pointless and destructive war on drugs... oh, and arrest the FED and the ciminals behind it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:47 | 5099258 Kinskian
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STL area radio host was on TV today and he claims that more cops were injured last night than on any previous night of this event. He said there were no arrests because cops were ordered to stand down. Assaults and property crimes were ignored in order to provide a feel good story for this morning's news.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:58 | 5099354 john39
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which host? I know STL pretty well, and there are more than a few radio hosts that like to stir up a good story for the sake of ratings...

on the flip side of that, i suspect that  if we had one or two more nights of boot in the face policing, the entire city would have been facing riots...  and there is no way in hell that the area has enough police to contain that.  so, pick your poison.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:17 | 5099459 Kinskian
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I did not get his name. He was being interviewed today by Gretchen Carlson.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:44 | 5099620 john39
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local news here:

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2014/08/15/rocks-thrown-officers-fe...

some crime is expected in areas of st. louis.  I think the gov was smart to avoid provoking riots just to prove some kind of point.  after people cool down, problems can be dealt with.

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:12 | 5099762 Kinskian
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His name is McGraw Milhaven of KTRS.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:49 | 5099278 Dr. Richard Head
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Amen on ALL accounts there john39.  If you are ever in Cleveland I will buy the first round of beers.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:00 | 5099362 john39
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well, since you are a doctor, make it fluoride free beer (sierra nevada, among others), and i'll be by for some therapy....  round 2 on me.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:03 | 5099934 putaipan
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i'm with john on this..... if you take off the "they live" race glasses on this it is all so obvious. help otheras see it.

as a secondary comment i watched a vid of a tense riot situation in england somewhere ... a creative cop rolled right thropugh the middle of everything with the "friendly neighborhood ice cream man' music going intead of a siren- everyone chilled and dispersed. the cop was canned for his creativity.

peop[le are not so bad. but the tptb have had a long time of enforcing and nurturing their opinion that we are.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:50 | 5100106 ebear
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:21 | 5099343 ChanceIs
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Read an account from a 20 year NYPD policeman.  Says that in most scuffles, the "perp" knows that he is being stopped for something that would put him behind bars for a plus longtemps.  It's either bang down the cop or go into the Big House.  Cops know the perp has little to lose by smearing them into the pavement.  Cops get scared and react according to their emotions/experience/culture.

News reports "Big Mike" was 6'3'' and weighed in at 292 pounds.

Query for the board:  The other "perp" sated that the cop tried to pull "Big Mike" into his car.  This is so easy to imagine.  Cop seated behind the steering wheel, turns and with his right hand (left would be rather useless being pinned against the inner door) attempts to pull all of 292 pound Big Mike into his car and abuse him.  I can believe it.

I would have given $10K to have been in the room when Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton saw the convenience store video.  Looks to me like there was a third "perp," and two other witnesses, a woman and her child. Why were their faces "fuzzed out?"

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:30 | 5099531 Squid Viscous
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Maybe it was Tawana Brawley?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:30 | 5099147 Oldballplayer
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I watched the Expendables last night. 

I got the impression you just find the closet kid, roust him into your car, get your ass handed to you in the altercation, lose control of your gun, and then shoot the kid three times while yelling at him to stop.

Cuz if thats not the way it is done, someone should tell Hollywood because they have it all wrong.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:30 | 5099151 moonman
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The cop should have politely asked Michael to stop assaulting him and refrain from for reaching for his gun?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:38 | 5099195 Toronto Kid
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While they were tussling, yes, the cop was within his rights to shoot him. When the kid was running down the road, or standing there with his hands in the air, no. I'm not big on cops shooting suspects in the back.

Which is what that kid was at that point; a suspect. Some big fat frakker robbed the store but it doesn't mean that person was Michael.

And people shouldn't be dying over a damn box of cigars.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:51 | 5099656 toady
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"I'm not big on cops shooting suspects in the back."

The dude had just assaulted you, a COP. While he's running away he's suddenly just a "SUSPECT"?

Please. At that point he's a violent felon, based on what he's actually done TO YOU.

Sure, just let someone willing to assault cops get away. He certainly will never, EVER, even hurt a fly.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:21 | 5100008 saints51
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A COP comes on my property for no apparent reason and harasses me then pushes me around , forcing me to defend myself. From your perspective I am now a felon?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:29 | 5100260 toady
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So, the middle of the street is your property? The inside of the cops car is your property?

There's no apparent reason for the cop to question immediately after you robbed a store?

You were forced to attempt to enter the police car?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:01 | 5099709 salvadordaly
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And people shouldn't be dying over a damn box of cigars.

Hind site. Should have told that to Mike Brown. All of this would not have happened IF Mike Brown was a nice proper "fella".

So who do we blame, hhhmmmmmmmmmmm?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:43 | 5100082 Toronto Kid
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The cop didn't pull him onto the sidewalk for the robbery, the cop pulled him onto the sidewalk because he and his friend were walking in the middle of the road.

When did jaywalking become a crime punishable by the death penalty?

And when did improper begin to mean "die"?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:37 | 5099194 Chewybunny
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In ISIS if you are caught stealing, you get your hands cut off. In America if you are caught stealing you get shot in the face by the police. Our superior morality! 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:48 | 5099249 Bill of Rights
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Hmm I think ill take the cold chop, I would hate to be shot in the face and end up looking like John Kerry.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:51 | 5099309 power steering
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Wrong. The officer didn't know about the robbery but the kid did. In this country if you try to snatch a police officer's gun from his holster then yes, you can get shot in the face.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:54 | 5099327 Citxmech
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and apparently you can also be left to bleed to death after the fact too.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:39 | 5099208 Godisanhftbot
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 I liked Dredd, very much. Very.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:15 | 5099444 IronShield
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Because you've walked the streets yourself and know just how to deal with these punks, right?

Here's a more likely scenario:  Oh gawd, no, don't hurt me, take whatever you want.  Here, have my wife (or bf in case you're happy, I mean gay).  Honey, do whatever the punk says...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:24 | 5099119 greatbeard
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>> what will all the self hating white liberal cunts have to say

No telling.  But there's no doubt what all you racists cocksuckers have to say. No better click bait than some place for the anonymous bigots to have their say.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:29 | 5099140 NidStyles
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Well the both of you can wallow in your delusional fallacies of "groups" of people.-

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:40 | 5099217 TBT or not TBT
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Birds of a feather even fuck together.   Otherwise descendants of slaves would mostly be as dark as I am red from  being 1/16th Cherokee.  

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:49 | 5099287 Bill of Rights
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Don't kid yourself I'm an open bigot, if its a pile of shit ill tell you so.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:22 | 5099488 Bollixed
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I take it you'll call a spade a spade...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:47 | 5099264 FuzzyDunlop21
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They will say they same things as before. Theyve already made up their mind. Theyre not interested in the truth. They are only interested in whatever bullshit supports their own version of unreality. When you are a minority and in a shitty place (such as Ferguson, MO), it is easy and tempting to place your misfortune on something not in your control, such as the color of your skin, or your disability, or whatever. Its a lot easier than accepting the truth of who you really are. "Im not a degenerate scumbag, the whites are just out to get me and those like me."" If the impoverished blacks of America where to find out the truth, which is that race doesnt mean shit to anyone, they would be terrified. Because then these impo verished blacks would realize people discrimate against them for being illiterate, for being prone to violence, for being unemployed, for selling drugs, for not taking care of their children. All of which have everything to do with individual character and responsibility. And all of which have nothing to do with being black.  

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:10 | 5099415 IronShield
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Never post logical $hit like that again, e-v-e-r.  It frightens the progressives.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 03:29 | 5101355 trader1
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while i agree with some of your points, race still does matter to the ignorant masses, which, according to the last time i checked, constitute the majority of the world population.

also, there is such a thing as institutionalized racism that accounts for the divergences in literacy, education, employment of the underclass.  

because, if america really wanted to do something about their underclass, then they would actually spend the necessary money to provide them with the skills necessary to become a "productive asset" to the national economy.  it's a simple problem that can be solved in less than 20 years.

if you don't invest in human capital, you will get the fellow humans in your communities, states, and nations as you deserve.

 

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:15 | 5099063 PresidentCamacho
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He was innocent until proven guilty.

CRIME WAS ROBBERY, SENTENCE WAS DEATH, JUDGE WILSON EXECUTED

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:18 | 5099081 hedgeless_horseman
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CRIME WAS ROBBERY, SENTENCE WAS DEATH

Didn't he attack the police officer?  I thought that was the crime for which he was shot.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:29 | 5099099 Mercury
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The militarization of local police forces in America is a huge problem that is just starting to get the attention it deserves.

 

But that is not the only issue in play in Ferguson, MO.

 

Here we have a  6' 4"  292 pound dude who appears to have violently robbed a convenient store. (if you're having trouble loading the video).

 

If this is in fact what Michael Brown did then it’s hard to argue that he was behaving in a civil and lawful manner in public.

 

Pro tip: when you fail to behave in a civil and lawful manner in public you vastly increase the chances that you will not be treated in a civil and lawful manner by other members of the public.

 

This is true whether the cops are angels or devils.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:30 | 5099150 blabam
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Ghetto culture is a right! 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:41 | 5099196 cbaba
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Reports say there was a 22 yr old next to him, the white shirt guy may be the 22 yrs old they saw with victim and probabaly victim is the younger guy in this video, but this may not even be the same guys the police saw on the street. 

This is a video posted by police, unless they are absolutely sure the victim is involved in robbery they should never posted this vidoe here, if it turns out that he was innocent we would be talking against the victim and case will be fogotten, thats excatly what police wants here..

 

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:49 | 5099280 Handful of Dust
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3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Watch Al slink into his Escalade late tonight and drive out of town.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:04 | 5099380 IronShield
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Wow, that's the most amazing analysis I've ever seen.  You should post more often.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:51 | 5099898 NotApplicable
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Did you even read the police report linked in the post you just replied to? Suspects were clearly identified by officer who wrote the report, who saw both of them.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:35 | 5099173 Professorlocknload
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And the spin goes on. We'll no more know what actually went down here, than we'll learn what really happened with MH17.

Truth is the victim.

And The Rule of Law is now subjective to media interpretation.

Trial by the NY Times and Fox News.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:37 | 5099192 Citxmech
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People seem to be losing track of the issues here:  The issues are:  1) Was the stop/arrest by the officer justified?

 

2) Was deadly force justified after the stop/arrest – for each and every shot?

And 3) Were appropriate steps taken after the shooting to provide necessary aid afterwards?

Brown could’ve had stolen shit falling out of his pockets  and it has nothing to do with issues 2 or 3.

Brown could've gone straight for the officer's gun, and it would have nothing to do with issue 1 or 3.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:03 | 5099333 hedgeless_horseman
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People seem to be losing track of the issues here:

4) Does the police officer have the right to defend his life?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:07 | 5099390 IronShield
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Please, leave logic out of this; we'll have none of that here.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:36 | 5099579 Escrava Isaura
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Finally someone (IronShield) called a spade a spade.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:26 | 5099514 Bastiat
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No doubt in my mind if a guy that big is attacking a cop, the cop can shoot him if;  he's of "life threatening" dimensions.  But a doesn't get to keep shooting once the threat is neutralized.  Of course, I don't know how it all happened -- that is based on what I've read so far.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:44 | 5099615 QQQBall
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Please define attack. Two witlesses have the victim on his knees with his hands raised before being shot additional times. 

 

What will be most interesting is the spin from the popo. Over-under... the family gets <$3MM or >$3MM and the "investigations" drag well into 2015 with multiple contradictory leaks.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:23 | 5099635 hedgeless_horseman
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Two witlesses have the victim on his knees with his hands raised before being shot additional times.

Yeah...I heard them.

Hands up...don't shoot!

Right?

It appears that these same witnesses were also involved with Big Mike in the robbery of the store, and posted this video saying that they didn't rob the store, before the surveillance video was released clearly showing that they did.

"I'm saying nobody stole shit."

...except for the cigars? 


Fri, 08/15/2014 - 21:58 | 5100771 mt paul
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the bond between

n amerikan pavement apes

is strong ..

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 03:15 | 5101338 Sorry_about_Dresden
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Who are you!!!!! Commenting with all your fancy features withheld from the rest of us ground-lings? I have noticed your privileges and wonder who you speak for? With all your fancy features you must be doing someone else's bidding? You are just a mouthpiece; and ear, for the MIC! Dissenter Page!....PG Going public soon? Got an ex-CIA Deputy Secretary's Venture Capital Fund to source your special features?.......perhaps? Maybe they are not really retired? I like to give my slant, but wtf are you doing?

If you have a pointed, honest, response, I.......we would all like to know "your deal".

You must have one? You have unique features not relegated to us, the uninitiated? 

You are a founder? A spook? Good? Evil? Creator? Destroyer? Huckster? Entrepreneur? Patriot? Tory?

I am: et alia multa sunt.

 


Sat, 08/16/2014 - 09:42 | 5101666 himaroid
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Just not a dumb fuck. You get no privilege. Just the joy of being you.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:49 | 5099645 hedgeless_horseman
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Double Tap...habit.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:32 | 5099543 css1971
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It's more than the right. The police officer has a gun, he has the obligation not to allow it in to the hands of bad guys.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 04:09 | 5101384 trader1
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4) Does the police officer have the right to defend his life?

 

depends.

not so sure if the cop's life is in danger if the perp is running away with shots fired into his back.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:29 | 5099528 css1971
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2) Was deadly force justified after the stop/arrest – for each and every shot?

Ah the 44 magnum supergun. The one that blows the bad guy's head clean off and stops them dead on the first shot. Shots coming from the cool collected police officer who knows where each shot went and which hit and which worked and which didn't.

I'm guessing you've never been in a potentially life threatening siituation but have watched lots of movies.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:53 | 5099669 hedgeless_horseman
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Ah the 44 magnum supergun. The one that blows the bad guy's head clean off and stops them dead on the first shot.

+1

I hear you.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:22 | 5099792 Citxmech
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WTF do .44 magnums have to do with it?  

Here's the deal:  As long as Big Mike was reasonably perceived to be an immanent threat to officer Willson's life, officer Wildson was justified in utilizing deadly force - and yes that means shooting him until his gun ran dry - be that 6 shots, only 5, or even 17.  Hell, if Big Mike were raging all hopped-up on PCP, it could even mean a reload and another volley of 17.

BUT, at such point as Big Mike is on his knees with hands up, or flat on his back unconscious, additional shots would be an unjustified use of excessive force and possibly constitute murder.  

Furthermore, once Big Mike was down, officer Wilson had a duty to radio in and call for medical assistance.

Whether officer Wilson's course of conduct is "reasonable" will likely be questions for the prosecutor/grand jury - and ultimately for the triers of fact in the upcoming criminal and civil trials - none of which have anything to do with my experience with potentially life threatening situations. 

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:47 | 5099803 hedgeless_horseman
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..at such point as Big Mike is on his knees with hands up, or flat on his back unconscious...

Flat on his back unconscious?  Only with a magic .44 Magnum Super Gun that stops them dead on the first shot.  All that a pistol does is make a single little hole in a big bad dude.  This is why God gave us the Benelli M2 Tactical and 00 buck shot*, and why it is often called a, "riot gun."

As long as Big Mike was reasonably perceived to be an immanent threat to officer Willson's life, officer Wildson was justified in utilizing deadly force - and yes that means shooting him until his gun ran dry - be that 6 shots, only 5, or even 17. 

Agreed.

 

 

* For home security, it is hard to beat a 12 gauge shotgun, loaded with 00 buck, and a weapon mounted light. However, familiarity with a shotgun gained by target shooting or
hunting is highly unlikely to provide one with the ability to
effectively use the weapon for defensive purposes, and When you are Suddenly Surrounded by Violence and Killing It's Too Late to Train,
so take a Tactical Shotgun Course.  It is a load of fun, and you will
be suprised to learn that getting the hit on big-slow badguys, when it
counts, is often much more difficult than hitting little-fast birdies.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-01-24/lets-talk-disintermediat...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:44 | 5100087 Citxmech
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HH - if you haven't seen this, here's a great comparison study on the effects of various sizes of 12ga shot on balistic gelatin with a high-speed camera.  Very illuminating:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZf_x8Esms

(000 - holee shite!)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:55 | 5101177 TeMpTeK
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Bullsht>> Brown had just commited a robbery and for all he knew, the cops where there to arrest him... At the time he was shot he was a fugitive and it is totally plausible that he COULD have acted in a defiant or aggressive manner in order to evade arrest ...Any cheap defense attorney will jizz all over that rpbbery video.... I can hear it now "Brown was a thug and a violent criminal whos actions to avoid arrest led the officer to fear for his life and justifiably shoot Dialo style".....Once again this one will be chalked up to pilot error...Resisting arrest/ aasaulting an officer and whatever the hell else they can think of., Browns actions led to his own death.. That robbery video is a Defense attorneys wet dream... And Al Sharptons handicapping of these ghetto goons is priceless!..Wishes he never got on the plane.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:42 | 5099603 firstdivision
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Kid had 20' reach for the gun. He could been a top NBA player.
The funny thing is, every cop show you see where the cop gets in an altercation with a suspect and the suspect starts to flee, the cop radios in with info. Entry wounds on the back would indicate running away...speaking of which when is that autopsy report coming out? kid was not a saint, but that is what the court system handels.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:17 | 5099083 Godisanhftbot
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 just ice delayed is justice denied moron

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:21 | 5099104 robochess
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he was innocent until video show him doing it (if that's him). you think a jury would have said otherwise?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:35 | 5099181 pods
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Couple of things.  That video could have been introduced as evidence in a court of law. Until a jury of his peers found him guilty he is still innocent (before the law).

The punishment for a strong arm robbery is not summary execution.

However, if he did attack the cop and the cop fired the first shot while being attacked, I would say excessive force is the only thing that could be claimed.

Tough call on this one, as everyone involved is basing action on emotion.

That never turns out well.

pods

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:38 | 5099206 Citxmech
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Then there's the issue of not reporting the shooting or calling for medical assistance. .  .

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:55 | 5099335 pods
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Those are of secondary importance to whether deadly force was justified.

Look, I HATE cops (i rarely use the term hate as it steals energy to hate, and I have enough energy drains in life) more than most, but if violence was initiated by the victim, the officer would (probably) be justified in using deadly force.

There are much clearer examples of the thug culture rampant in our "police." From being bought as bank security (while retaining full authority) to shooting unarmed kids, flash bangs in cribs, flash bangs period for that matter, or using phony cell towers to spy on us without warrants.

This case, however it might gin up emotion, is a poor example of calculated police infringement on our rights.

Maybe the response, but not the initial incident.

pods

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:47 | 5099634 QQQBall
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pods - you're full of shit; but let's see the entire evidence before deciding how full.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:51 | 5099302 Professorlocknload
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"Think a jury would have said otherwise?"

Depends on how the jury is stacked, and the judge is shopped. Still, is it right to circumvent a trial?

On the other hand, Stand Your Ground laws are there for a reason, as well.

That said, the shop keeper would have had every right to defend himself too, if he was physically attacked, unprovoked, as per the video recording.

Lot's of things to ponder here.

For sure, the initial lies spread by media muddled this all up to the point, it's doubtful justice will ever be served, beyond this point. Especially considering "Dead men tell no tales."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:51 | 5099307 Heyoka
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As Bubba Clinton said to Juanita Broderick after raping her, "put some ice on that"

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:15 | 5099064 AssFire
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The tobacco industry made him addicted to cigars...not his fault.    Amerika.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:17 | 5099066 Skateboarder
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Whoa, dat (white) nigga been eatin way too many donuts.

edit: you guys missed it. Live coverage over, of the queef of police, that is.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:15 | 5099068 cougar_w
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Doesn't change anything on the ground.

Not one single solitary thing.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:16 | 5099070 luckystars
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They put pot in those little cigars, probably selling too.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:32 | 5099155 NidStyles
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So what?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:38 | 5099190 Silky Johnson
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POT!!! Holy shit not pot! It's a miracle he didn't go on a killing spree all hopped up on that devil weed.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:16 | 5099072 buzzsaw99
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i miss him already. :SHNIFF: [/sarcasm]

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:16 | 5099073 Tom Brady
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And I thought he would be just leaving the library

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:17 | 5099074 Squid Viscous
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seems like a nice young lad, we'll all miss him dearly

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:17 | 5099076 Godisanhftbot
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 I thought I saw Al Sharpton stealing a twinkie. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:43 | 5099229 Silky Johnson
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Speaking of Sharpton what is wrong with that nigga? He got the AIDS or Celiac disease or some shit? I liked him when he was fat, this skinny Sharpton is not as funny.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:21 | 5099080 alexcojones
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Sorry Guys and fellow ZHers,

I cannot get behind Mike Brown, and his big behind, as the next Revolutionary War cause.

He ain't No Crispus Attucks

Crispus Attucks - Boston Massacre Historical Society
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:32 | 5099158 Kinskian
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Crispus Attucks, Vonnegut's "Innocent Bystander" in Breakfast of Champions, lol. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:38 | 5099201 Squid Viscous
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wasn't he at the Boston Massacre in 1770 too? that guy really gets around, 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:56 | 5099336 Kinskian
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"Here is the explanation: There used to be only one Nigger high school in Midland City, and it was an all-Nigger high school still. It was named after Crispus Attucks, a black man who was shot by British troops in Boston in 1770. There was an oil painting of this event in the main corridor of the school. Several white people were stopping bullets, too.

Crispus Attucks himself had a hole in his forehead which looked like the front door of a birdhouse.

But the black people didn’t call the school Crispus Attucks High School anymore. They called it Innocent Bystander High.

And when another Nigger high school was built after the Second World War, it was named after George Washington Carver, a black man who was born into slavery, but who became a famous chemist anyway. He discovered many remarkable new uses for peanuts."

K. Vonnegut Breakfast of Champions

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:20 | 5099095 yellowsub
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Wait, he ain't no angel?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:20 | 5099096 Bunghole
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I wonder what the percentage of EBT transactions are at that "store". 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:20 | 5099097 LetThemEatRand
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It's both funny and telling to watch the hate-all-government and/or anti-police state and/or "I've got an auto waiting to cap his ass if he comes to my house" crowd go through mental gymnastics to overlook what's going on in St. Louis because they (apparently secretly) actually want a police state to protect them from scary black guys.  Too funny.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:25 | 5099121 Duffy
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+100

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:26 | 5099126 Dr. Richard Head
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Suburban white boy, 5' 8" 165 lbs here.  I went to the ghetto last night to hang out with a friend who lives out there.  He is stuck in the ghetto thanks to his exwife taking everything he has.  We are both white.  Non of us had a problem there at all.  In fact, I was more concerned about the police in that area since I dare had a couple of drinks and then had to drive home. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:39 | 5099209 TuPhat
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Should I thank you for breaking the law and endangering others or just appreciate that what you say is true and wonderful wisdom?/sarc  thanks for your comment anyway richard white guy jerk

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:03 | 5099373 Oldwood
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Some of my best friends are black...really.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:34 | 5099553 Dr. Richard Head
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Victimless "crimes" of breaking the "law" regarding alcohol content are arbitrary and doesn't measure one's ability to drive.  The BAC used to be .15 not even a decade ago in Ohio, then it went down to .1, now to .8.  I had four beers over 6 hours, but you never know what the pigs will due to you should they decide to pull you over. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:49 | 5099652 Herd Redirectio...
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Less than a beer an hour isn't even drinking.

Most people are more drunk than that, the morning after.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:38 | 5100067 Clycntct
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" but you never know what the pigs will due to you should they decide to pull you over"

You always know what their going to do. Have you pay some of their bills.

How much is the only variable.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 04:36 | 5101399 Sorry_about_Dresden
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I don't think your making it up.

I lived in the hood for 15 years (see my other post). We lived, practically, care free.

I have always feared the police, much more so than any stranger.

I have been to many countrys and the usa is, by far, the most terrifying place I have ever been. I have meet people all over the world, set down, had a meal, not even speaking the same language and have never been as as terrified as i WAS BEING BRUTALLY ASSUALTED BY VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY POLICE!!!!!

In front of my wife, handcuffed, then maced. David Baughn....former US Attorney....told me I would have to cough up $20,000 for him to defend me when I was the one assualted. He is a top gun....saw him fist fight in court with Joe Morrisey and the judged locked both of them up for contempt ( I was appearing as a witness).

My friends came through, we showed a strong presence in front of the judge and had the "assualting an officer" reduced to "disturbing the peace".

"assualting an officer" is a felony! It was of no small consequence and I could have served five years.

I wish I could have come up w/ the 20k to wipe that campus cops nose in the dirt with my NEGRO lawyer, whose father was a Tuskegee Airman. It all worked out, but I was denied justice because I could not afford justice.

I pray for that young mans soul and for the eternal damnation of those cowards that executed him.....then left him on the street, in front of his commuinity for four hours.

Wait until it is your Grandson, Son, Daughter, Wife, Mother, Father, Brother, Sister etc....friend.

I have lost people I have met to gun violence. It is tragic. Yet the police do nothing to bring the killers to justice. They go about their day, armed, w/ extra clips, just waiting and hoping this will be the day they can GET THEIR SPIDER WEB TATOO ON THEIR ELBOW.

I'll bet ya' occifer Little Cox is getting his tattoo right now while recieving paid leave and gratuities fron the Police Benelovance Society. I hear they give the boys a $1,500 bonus when they slay a suspect and are on leave.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:20 | 5099102 Z_End
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The Associated Press @AP 2m

BREAKING: Police chief: Officer who shot Michael Brown did not know he was a robbery suspect at the time.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:23 | 5099109 LetThemEatRand
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Details.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:30 | 5099144 Godisanhftbot
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 who gives a shit. the video proves Brown was a thug. End of story.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:01 | 5099367 Citxmech
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Hell, why don't we put mini-guns on red light cameras too?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:56 | 5099692 firstdivision
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The constitution only applies to white people, right?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:25 | 5100233 ebear
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White males that own property, now that you mention it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:35 | 5099182 Oldballplayer
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Is there any reason to roust the kid then? 

I know the kid probably said something to the cop when told to get out of the street...but it just doesn't make any sense to try to put the kid in the car.

I know we are supposed to fellate the cops when they stop us, but do we get shot for walking slow ( you KNOW those kids were walking slow) and being a wise ass to the cops.  I guess that would make sense of the cop ran him over.  But pushing him into the car? 

There is a whole lot to this that just doesnt make sense.

My guess is we are going to find a cop who is either on Steriods, or is a coke head.  Those are the only people I've know who freak out over little stuff.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:40 | 5099216 Godisanhftbot
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 hey Oldballplayer, how many of those fastballs hit you in the head?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:58 | 5100936 flyingcaveman
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This says he did. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/15/confirmed-officer-darren-...

Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:22 | 5099106 Gringo Viejo
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One less POS for decent human beings to deal with. Harsh? I can live with it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:00 | 5099706 firstdivision
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When they run out of non-conforming darkies, they'll come for the nonconformist whitey.

Ignore the fact that police brutality has been on the rise, as long as it's another dead darkie

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:00 | 5099108 alexcojones
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Yeah, the Police State is here, but Mike Brown is no hero,

worthy of nationwide protests.

Nor is the ISRAEL-trained Police Chief of Mizzoo Mayberry any kind of real lawman.

Maybe MB's thug karma finally caught up to him?

Surveillance Video And The Picture They Didn’t Show You: Michael Brown Goes Gangsta’

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:26 | 5099129 kowalli
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It doesn't change anything... Police killed someone and not ever report it...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:29 | 5099135 Godisanhftbot
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  Let the police stop doing their jobs for a week.  Bet all the  white liberal poofters come back begging for a POLICE STATE before the time is up.

 

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:33 | 5099163 NidStyles
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Compared to you asking for it now?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:38 | 5099200 Oldballplayer
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I live in a little town of about 10,000.

I love the firemen.  Some of the town cops are friends.

But aside from going around checking house alarms that go off when the residents are at their Cape Cod homes or picking up the mess from some rich white kid blowing his brains out, they do not do much.

So, yeah...I would go for them taking the week off.  No problem.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:41 | 5099223 Citxmech
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I will never "beg for a police state."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:29 | 5099137 himaroid
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Bad seed. Get rid of it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:29 | 5099139 seek
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Oh, it's just all just a misunderstanding that justifies launching tear gas canisters at the news crew a mile away from the riot and arresting reporters..

Oh, wait, it doesn't.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:51 | 5099301 JR
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If  what we’re seeing from the Ferguson developments is coming from these “news crews” then we’re seeing reports from enemies of the actual events in that from the beginning the “news crews” have perpetuated an extremely dangerous lie on what occurred.

And it has now been discovered that the rumor of this convenience store robbery was present among the “news crews” on the first day of the rioting.

Sine these “news crews” are not reporting the news but are fanning the flames of violence and accusing an entire population of white Americans as being responsible for this manufactured “news,” why are they even given the courtesy of going behind police lines when honest American are prohibited?

“Our problem is not inanimate objects like knives and guns; it is psychiatry and liberal social policy. Information provided about murders by the media is almost always wrong. In 2009 total firearms murders were 9,203, other devices 4,552. With blacks accounting for only 12% of the population, they are responsible for over 2/3 of all murders. It violates Cultural Marxism’s rules to even mention these facts, because the psychiatric community does not want the information made available.” M—Dr. Adrian H. Krieg

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:56 | 5099688 luckystars
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Well, the reporters are pushing the revolution.

Nobody cared about 85 shot in Chicago, because the media did not push it.

This is yet another color revolution pushed by the Marxist in chief.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:29 | 5099143 Itchy and Scratchy
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Yeah ...but he told the clerk to, 'put it on his bill!'

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:30 | 5099149 Make_Mine_A_Double
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But Saint Skittles was gettin' his GED and shiite. Jus' been turning it around and was gonna' be a civil rights lawyer at Just - Ice Department.

See NYT for Cliff Note Addition.

I really don't a flying fuck if some cop greased this peice of shit.

What is disturbing was the roll out of the military police in high dungeon combat kit. Now that is fucking worrisome. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:33 | 5099167 Seasmoke
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+Colt.45

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