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Order Out Of Chaos: The Doctrine That Runs The World

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Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market blog,

“From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

 

- Winston Churchill, February 1920, in an article that appeared in the Illustrated Sunday Herald

The concept of conspiracy frightens some people, so much so that they are willing to overlook any and all evidence that world events are for the most part directed, rather than chaotic and coincidental. For those who are uneducated and unaware, explanations for the terrible tides of politics and war generally revolve around a false understanding of Occam’s razor. They argue that the theory states that the “simplest explanation” is usually the correct one for any particular problem or crisis. But Occam’s razor actually states that the simplest explanation according to the evidence at hand is usually the correct answer for any given problem. That is to say, the simplest explanation must conform to the evidence, or it is likely not correct.

Unfortunately, “skeptics” of directed conspiracy often turn a blind eye to evidence that is contrary to their simple explanations, while arguing that simplification is its own vindication. In other words, they don’t feel the need to defend their simplistic world view because, in their minds, simplicity stands on its own as self-evident. There was a time when men believed that the planets revolved around each other because they were tied together by long glass strings, and this was evident to them because it was the simplest explanation they could come up with. The thinking of skeptics of the New World Order and concerted globalization is much like this.

The most common argument they tend to exploit is that the world is far too “chaotic” and that if the elites are actually seeking a fully centralized one-world system, they are “failing miserably” because so many cultures are so clearly divided. For anyone who holds this argument as logical or practical, first I would suggest they look beyond the surface of the various conflicts at the similarities between these so called “enemies.”

For example, what about the United States versus Russia? These two nations have a long history of opposing ideologies and have come close to war time and time again. Certainly, average Americans see themselves as individualists and Russians as socialist or communist. Average Russians see Americans as capitalist imperialists and see themselves as humanists. But what about their respective governments? What about their respective financiers and oligarchs? Do they really see each other as enemies?

If that were so, then why did American Wall Street tycoons and the U.S. military aid the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917?

A false paradigm was created when internationalists supported the Bolshevik Revolution and allowed Russia to become a communist-held country. The eventual Cold War that resulted created the rationale used by the military-industrial complex to build a massive standing army (which is not part of the U.S. Constitution), an army which could then be sent around the world to subdue various nations and even possibly be used to oppress the American people.

Even today, the false East/West paradigm continues, with America painted as the bumbling villain and Russia painted as the stalwart and reasonable objector. Yet Russia’s top government officials and our top government officials work closely with and answer to the same international financiers and elites, like the International Monetary Fund and the Bank of International Settlements, as I outlined in great detail in False East/West Paradigm Hides The Rise Of Global Currency and Russia Is Dominated By Global Banks, Too.

Even closer to current events, the U.S. has now entered into military operations against ISIS insurgents moving rapidly through Iraq’s northern regions toward Baghdad. However, if ISIS is the enemy, why did the U.S. and our ally, Saudi Arabia, support and train ISIS agents in Syria as well as Iraq?

Is it just irony that our government helped birth ISIS and now the White House is at war with the group? Or is it possible that maybe, just maybe, a greater plan is afoot?

As the sinister Rahm Emanuel famously said: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”

If a crisis of opportunity does not present itself in the time frame you need, why not ENGINEER a crisis to fit your goals? This is a tactic that has been used by elites for generations, and it is called the Hegelian dialectic.

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel’s work was the very foundation of the collectivist/socialist ideology, and it inspired Karl Marx during his writing of The Communist Manifesto. Hegel was an avid statist who believed that the collective must be ruled and directed by centralized governance and that all individualism should be sacrificed for the greater good.

Hegel wrote that the state “has supreme right against the individual, whose supreme duty is to be a member of the State… for the right of the world spirit is above all special privileges.”

In his dialectic theory, Hegel conjured a strategy by which the establishment elites could control the masses through deliberately created division. To define the Hegelian dialectic method simply, the ruling body must first trigger a problem or crisis that causes the citizenry to react with fear and demand a solution. The rulers then offer a solution, which they had already predetermined before they had started the crisis; this solution would usually entail more power for the elites and less freedom for the citizens.

The world appears divided and chaotic exactly because it has been MADE that way by a select few in the globalist establishment. In fact, if you were to name any war in the past 100 years, any competent alternative analyst would easily produce undeniable evidence of the involvement of international banks and think tanks pulling strings on both sides.

If you don’t understand the concept of “order out of chaos,” then you’ll never understand a thing.

Engineered chaos serves several purposes. It provides distraction and cover for the elites to implement other plans that they would rather not have noticed.

It also provides a scapegoat for the masses, who are now divided against each other. When violent changes are implemented that produce destructive consequences, the people must be placated with an easily identifiable villain. Certain changes globalists wish to make in the way the world functions require the careful exploitation of scapegoats.

For example, the globalists at the IMF have been discussing the establishment of a global basket currency for years to replace the U.S. dollar.

Russia and the East have also, conveniently, been calling for the IMF to replace the dollar with their Special Drawing Rights basket.

And finally, as well as conveniently, the elites in the U.S. government have launched a controlled coup in Ukraine and initiated direct economic confrontation with Russia, thereby giving the East the perfect excuse to dump the U.S. dollar as world reserve and replace it with a basket currency system under the IMF. Despite claims that Vladimir Putin is “anti-globalist,” the Russian is in fact an avid supporter of the IMF, and has stated his goal is to continue Russia’s IMF membership in a larger capacity:

"In the BRICS case we see a whole set of coinciding strategic interests. First of all, this is the common intention to reform the international monetary and financial system. In the present form it is unjust to the BRICS countries and to new economies in general. We should take a more active part in the IMF and the World Bank’s decision-making system. The international monetary system itself depends a lot on the US dollar, or, to be precise, on the monetary and financial policy of the US authorities. The BRICS countries want to change this."

Yes, Vladimir, and so do the manipulative social engineers at the IMF...

Hopefully, you have the sense to see how this works: problem, reaction, solution. Economic or physical war is launched between East and West, while the dollar is killed in the process. The masses react by demanding a fair and balanced replacement for the dollar as world reserve so that economic stability can return. The Americans blame Russia and the East for their fiscal misfortune. The East blames the hubris of the West for its own downfall. Neither side blames the banksters, who started the whole calamity to begin with. And the elites swoop in as saviors with a new Bretton Woods-style agreement to appease all sides and cement their global currency system, the system they had always wanted. And with a global economic currency and authority in place, global governance is not far behind — order out of chaos.

This process is more psychological than political in its goals. One could argue that if the elites already have control of all central banks and governments, then why do they need a global government? The answer is that these men do not want secret global governance, they want open global governance. They want us to ACCEPT the idea as a fact of existence, for only when we agree to participate in the lie will they then have truly won.

The end result of World War I was the creation of the League of Nations and the argument that sovereignty leads to disunion and catastrophe. World War II led to the creation of the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund. I believe that a third world war is nearly upon us, one that may involve weapons of monetary destruction more so than weapons of mass destruction. Each supposed disintegration of global unity has eventually led to greater centralization, and this is something the skeptics seem to forget. The progression of crises suggests that the next war will lead to total globalization under the dominance of a minority of elitists posing as "wise men" who only wish to bring peace and harmony to the masses. In the meantime, the skeptics will continue to mindlessly debate in the face of all reason that the whole thing was a fluke, an act of random mathematical chance, leading coincidentally to the one thing the establishment rulers crave: total global totalitarian micromanagement.

 

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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:15 | 5100815 kchrisc
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The Hegelian dialectic is the main reason I do not concern myself with "illegals," gays, gay marriage, abortion, niggers, Muslims, etc.

I only concern myself with Restoring the Constitutional republic and the American people to the American country by ousting the DC US usurpers and occupiers.

An American, not US subject.

 

The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying, quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Restoration: Restore the American people, country and Constitutional republic.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:26 | 5100839 0b1knob
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Rama Lama Ding Dong:  The Edsels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KStsPPgeka4

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:42 | 5100893 TahoeBilly2012
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And Wall St. is run primarily by...that's right, ding ding ding.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:06 | 5100953 DoChenRollingBearing
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O/T

Of my own volition and for personal reasons, I am asking that the Tylers delete my Zero Hedge account.  I have been wrestling with this decision for long enough, and now it is made.

It has been a great run for me here at the World's Biggest And Funnest Playground™, but the time has come for me, an impulsive fellow, to leave.  It is time for me to read & listen more, and spout less.  I'll be reading ZH as an outsider from here on.

There are so many here I would like to thank over these years, but the list would be long, and I would surely forget many names, so I thank you all instead.

To all of you, peace and farewell.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:16 | 5100979 sleigher
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really?  I liked your posts.  I am sure that list you speak of feels the same.  don't go.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:16 | 5101280 Elvis the Pelvis
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Actually, the globe is getting better.  We've got less poverty and starvation than at any time in human history.  But things do need to improve.  And they will.  It just takes time.  Bitchez.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:10 | 5101501 negative rates
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WWIII, the war between the intellects, be there or be square.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 11:45 | 5102089 ratso
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This article is complete shit.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:19 | 5102195 Davalicious
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Putin is a Jew, like the "revolutionaries" mentioned earlier in the article but not named as Jews. This is a global Jewish problem, with a little white window dressing.

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1393/51/1393512268645.jpg

Chew your last bagels, boys, we will be coming for you and your freemason buddies.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 13:43 | 5102480 ratso
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You are a moron.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:15 | 5100980 DanDaley
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Hasta la vista, compadre. Gracias por tus pensamientos -he aprendido mucho. Posiblemente algún día te invito a una copa en Perú. 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 09:47 | 5101658 Escrava Isaura
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DoChen,

That's biazarre about deleting the account!

What spook you?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 11:53 | 5102123 HamFistedIdiot
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Fear? Peruvian "authorities"? The global reckoning being near?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 16:09 | 5102841 Escrava Isaura
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LOL...

DoChen is even runnign from us...

I think the end is near!

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 16:33 | 5102887 Escrava Isaura
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Ham,

Don't worry. I give a week and he will be back... After all, I am impulsive (DoChen's words).

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:27 | 5100992 Crawdaddy
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Nyet globalist minion. Ye shall not leave. Ye shall sell those bearings. Stay within the walls of our protection or perish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE-uDhRmrxM

But if you are really adios, peace amigo. You are good people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBkwPYq4nhQ

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:11 | 5101272 TeethVillage88s
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I used to love Acoustic Music when I wore a younger man's clothes...

Second song seems to do it for me. Not sure why corporate culture kills this inside of us.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:32 | 5101016 hobopants
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Good luck dochen, your input around here will be missed. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:38 | 5101030 chumbawamba
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Until we meet again, DoChenRollingDoobies.

-Chumbz.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:05 | 5101194 woolly mammoth
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Sorry for being a pest.  http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-05-03/we-begin

When I first realized the truth about 9/11, a cold wave swept though me like something I've never felt before. It was a sick feeling and I've never been able to see the world around me the same again. I'm hoping you still plan on sharing. 

 

 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:01 | 5101413 chumbawamba
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Imminently, player.  If I'd actually begun when I said we did then I would have proved ultimately to be an abject failure in my intentioned goals.  I had more learning and experiencing to do.  That being done, now we begin...very soon.

Thanks for keeping the faith.

-Chumbz.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:44 | 5101435 Ralph Spoilsport
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There's a house with no doors, but inexplicably, a room full of mirrors. Keep reading that insect shirt amigo.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:40 | 5101038 Dave Thomas
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Dochen, I'll check them cow fields near highway 6 for ya, They don't have the same smell, but there are a ton of ghosts hunched over the happy hunting grounds. When like minds meet it's extascy.

I wish you well on Lake Titicaca!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:56 | 5101076 knukles
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DoChen...
Peace be upon you, my brother.  Be steady always troding the road of happy destiny.  Thoroughly follow the path and speak with Him by Name, for nothing else matters.  Nobody has ever walked back into the rooms and suggested we join them elsewhere. 
Blessings
K

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 23:45 | 5103921 willwork4food
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DoChen, enjoyed your comments very much. Come back again when you are ready.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:01 | 5101089 woolly mammoth
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Hope you continue to post on your blog DoChen. You've shared some very interesting stories as well as some interesting research. Good Luck!

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:01 | 5101091 zaphod
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Godspeed and good luck. ZH will be less without your contributions.

BTW, any parting suggestions on additional worthwhile sources to read and pay attention to? ZH has started to become a bit monotonous, and it's a large world out there.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:30 | 5101519 negative rates
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The whole world go to hell, unless YOU prop it up.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 09:40 | 5101663 Escrava Isaura
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zaphod,

You have away with words that say a lot, with few words.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:18 | 5101112 Jam Akin
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Go with God DoChen - been good trading posts with you over the years.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:21 | 5101123 Miffed Microbio...
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Dochen,

It has certainly been an honor and I will miss you greatly! I have been wrestling with this issue myself. I almost made the break but this Ebola issue made me reconsider. Maybe I could offer something of value.

I owe so much to ZH but so many have left whom I had become quite close, it just isn't the same. akak was the hardest. I really have been a misfit all my life and ZH has been the only place I could find people who shared my views. But the doom and sadness weighs heavily at times.

Please be well and happy my friend.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:49 | 5101439 UselessEater
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Some strange down voting twit needs a hug.

Why would you down vote this thread? Its inoffensive and reflecting warmth amongst posters.

I happen to have been kindly helped personally by DoChen, someone I have never met but he went on a limb simply to be helpful and kind.

Be smarter and be kinder; peeps with key boards and red arrows are not as impressive as men who actually help by doing something.

Thanks DoChen.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:24 | 5101128 AlaricBalth
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DoChen. This forum will be lessened by your absence. I always enjoyed, and learned from, your wit and insight. You will missed. Perhaps when you are stateside Ill catch you on Calle Ocho sometime. All the best to you and Mrs. DoChen.

I'll be checking in a your blog from time to time, as I truly value your thoughtful musings.

(Hope you don't mind the plug.)
http://robertmixblog.blogspot.com/?m=1

:-)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:49 | 5101161 COSMOS
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COSMOS: Damn i missed do chen saying goodbye cause I was watching COSMOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdOKUb0jQko COSMOS: Well not sure if I got this right COSMOS: did he quite cause he was hitting the bottle too many times or did he quit because of his zero hedge addiction COSMOS: hey chumba you ever see this guy in this video before? COSMOS: so who is going to get the hookers and booze for dochens retirement party COSMOS: interesting that he made his post in an article called or order out of chaos COSMOS: if he thinks his life will find order leaving the chaos of ZH he is sadly mistaken COSMOS: Dochen there is more to life than going to Machupichu and rolling down defective bearings down the ancient terraces as you chant and seek the meaning of life COSMOS: Here is what I say Dochen COSMOS: you need to follow a little bit of the Roman auspices methods with a mix of Inca, go to the big stone altar on machu pichu with your most prized bearing, crack it open and let the ball bearings fall on the altar. Take a picture of the pattern COSMOS: project that pattern on celestial maps COSMOS: see what mythological constellation it matches and then read up about it and you will find out what path your life should take....The Word from the all knowing COSMOS
Sat, 08/16/2014 - 04:23 | 5101275 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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You seem to be growing a bit more unstable with each passing day. I recommend an experienced psychiatrist.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:53 | 5101443 UselessEater
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Nah its kinda sweet, no quack required. I got a smile from the post.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:41 | 5101154 RafterManFMJ
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Well DoChen I've always enjoyed your posts and in fact contemplated hitting you up for an entry level position in selling ball bearings. Either that or apprenticing in Boris' urban copper mine.

One can tell you have passion about your work, and that's great to have.

I burn some time here as well and have been thinking of a sabbatical to actually produce something - but frankly my day job as an SEC investigator gives me a great deal of free time; and porn can only consume 20 hours or so per week...

Although we may never meet, it's good to see we are both under steam, heading toward the same destination.

Peace.

RafterMan

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:51 | 5101167 Jena
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Sorry to see you leave, DoChen. You will be missed.

Jena

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:58 | 5101180 COSMOS
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He will be back, sigh, ZH is more addictive than crack cocaine, and more trippy than an acid trip in the park in Berkeley California

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:54 | 5101250 TeethVillage88s
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Gonzo Journalism?

Or have you actually tried to trip in Berkeley California?

I guess I don't want to admit anything regarding trips. But my impression is that they are not so important or interesting at all.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:11 | 5101273 Al Huxley
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I wouldn't say they're important, but they can be interesting at times.  Or at least strange and amusing.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:35 | 5101523 negative rates
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Hey, lets go over to your house. And sometimes we can go over to my house.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:46 | 5101321 Yen Cross
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 You're a sap. Do,Chen is going on sabbatical.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:52 | 5101328 Yen Cross
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 Jena? Really?   Girlz

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:46 | 5102319 chunga
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There's a strange sense of obligation to remain informed about all the problems going on in this world, especially if one has kids. It get's to the point though when it must be realized there isn't a damn thing we can do about it any more. I've been thinking that I waste an awful lot of time reading about things that I didn't cause and are completely out of my control so why bother? I don't know but maybe this is what DCRB is thinking.

Be as prepared as possible and that's about all we can do. Success is measured by the laugh here at Half-a-Day Farm.

If Gabriel's Horn does blow it's going to blow whether we know why or not.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 13:10 | 5102394 Jena
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YC? How you been? I'm still here, just reading mostly.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:02 | 5101188 Rory_Breaker
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Goodbye DoChen, you will be missed!

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:09 | 5101197 COSMOS
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Do Chen must leave so he can be REBORN kind or like Francis Sawyer but he was a little bit more of Clark Kent kind of personae.

I wish you could of taken me with you Do Chen, I have wanted to leave so many times from ZH but they took away my passport and locked me up in a server.  Its always easy for the clients to leave and not come back, not so for the ring side girls.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:23 | 5101292 mark mchugh
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DoChen,

Your decision to read and listen more is admirable, but I'd urge you to reconsider removing yourself completely from discussion.  There's this thing called moderation....

Your remarks were always worth reading and added to the discussion.  I will miss them. And I wish I could say that about more of the commenters here.  

Think about this (because I know you'e been here for a while):  Shameful was my favorite commenter at ZH and every time I scroll through the comments I hope to see something from him.  Wouldn't it be great if he'd resurface once in a while?  See what I'm getting at?

Anyway, best wishes,

Mark

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:26 | 5101425 zhandax
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DoChen,  "For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief"  Know you are always welcome back, and go in peace.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 10:19 | 5101787 COSMOS
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Mark is 5 years old, hmmm never seen anyone span that kind of time frame here. Could he be the Master Processor

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:48 | 5101324 SHRAGS
Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:46 | 5101438 zhandax
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Don't know why that song provoked the thought, but the reorganization of civilization may and/or may not be televised, but it will be probably be blogged here.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 09:19 | 5101641 Took Red Pill
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you can check out any time you like but you may never leave

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 03:29 | 5101358 Midas
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Bad idea dude, for the sake of the children, don't go.  You can't get any laughs out of a rolling bearing.  But if you must, Farewell! 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:38 | 5101526 negative rates
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It's a hard life brother, and a people's gots to do what a peoples got to do.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 04:11 | 5101387 North Sea Cowboy
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Your posts will be missed DCRB. Hals und beinbruch, as they say in Germany!

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:29 | 5101427 Ralph Spoilsport
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Sorry to see you go DoChen. I've enjoyed your comments and some crazy times on ZH chat. Wow, akak and now you.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 06:56 | 5101486 Seahorse
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Good luck sir, you are a gentleman.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:08 | 5101502 Croesus
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@ DoChen: 

As one of the long-time members around here, you've posted some great insights over the years, and I wish you'd keep your account active, just to have the ability to say something, when it needs to be said. 

We've got some great minds on here, who usually have something worthwhile to say, and we can't afford to lose any, my friend. 

Whatever the final decision, stay well, and keep fighting the good fight! 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:13 | 5101505 negative rates
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Happy trails Mr. Bearing.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 08:39 | 5101593 augie
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Same as it ever was! Nimrod be praised! The tower will be rebuilt!

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 08:41 | 5101596 augie
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Later Do! Know we never had any direct communication, but I've always benefited from your inputs even if i stopped commenting myself sometime ago. Be well and good luck!

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 10:39 | 5101851 Kirk2NCC1701
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If you wnat to spend less time blogging (a huge time sink, to be sure), then the simplest thing to do, is to change your password and lose it.  This will prevent you from being tempted to blog again, and force you to create s new ID -- which you obviously would not do.

Asking Tyler to delete your comments seems excessive.  But now that you have your own blog site up and running, is it that you don't want your profile associated with ZH any more -- for
image or "branding" reasons?  A marketing decision, which I'd understand.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:53 | 5102345 emersonreturn
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dochen, i've always looked forward to your posts, full of harmony and a true desire to embrace understanding and truth, of late though your posts have frequently seemed burdened by a struggle with the admiration many have for putin.  i may be mistaken, but on the off chance that i am not entirely, please reconsider, purely because the ideals you cherish are the very ones most coming into focus.  ZH at its finest brings many sides and pov to an arguement, idea, or event.  your continued opposing observations are crucial.  your gentle truth and heart will be sorely missed, for that you stand all but alone.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 10:48 | 5101892 jerry_theking_lawler
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God speed DoChen. your comments will be missed.

hopefully, one day soon, you will rejoin the ranks of actual intelligent ZH users (not the drones, bots, paid shills) and begin commenting again. if not, i hope you pursue spreading the word in your own manner because searching, finding, and spreadign the truth is the ultimate endgoal.

peace out brother.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 11:48 | 5102105 jmeyer
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You can check out but you can never leave.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:27 | 5126309 honestann
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Hahahaha!  Good one.

I should have thought of that.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:09 | 5102167 PeeramidIdeologies
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I feel your sentiments DoChen, but the Tyler's don't seem willing to respond to these requests. Perhaps rightfully so. The knowledge shared here is a heavy burden, one that requires an outlet. Zero hedge is the perfect place for that. This is a misunderstanding I had, among many, when I began posting here. It seemed to me the information shared here should be put to practical use. That was a silly notion, the true purpose of ZH is now clear to me.

I'm of the opinion the Tyler's do not delete accounts for the simple reason that you will always be welcome to return and take a load off. In these trying times that can literally be worth it's weight in gold. It won't be easy to watch the events ahead unfold, I believe everyone of us will have our own war to fight, but at least here at ZH there will be people who understand the difficulty.

God speed man, I wish ya the best!
Don't torment yourself in the future, if you get that old feeling to sign in and let one rip, the ZH crew is all ears and ready to put it back at ya!

Cheers from Peers

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:26 | 5102241 armageddon addahere
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It's not that hard to get deleted. Just criticise the wrong person or post and you will be "disappeared" instantly and permanently with no warning or discussion. That is what happened to me when I was known as Diogenes.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:25 | 5102212 armageddon addahere
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Good luck to you Do Chen. I will miss you and your insights.

armageddon addahere, formerly known as Diogenes

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:21 | 5102226 detached.amusement
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/\ always enjoyed your posts dcrb

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 16:11 | 5102843 Colonel Klink
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Fare thee well DCRB.  Please say hi to Francis Sawyer in the land of fellow ZH alumni.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:18 | 5103309 LooseLee
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May Peace be with you...

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:23 | 5103320 Hook Line and S...
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DCRB... ; )

HLS

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 21:16 | 5103550 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Do Chen, you obviously signed up to Z/H because you saw likeminded

thinkers. William Shakespear wrote in Romeo & Juliet.... 'too much honey confounds the taste'. Z/H can be information overload at times I've noticed myself. Eat a can of Tuna to boost 5H-T and read some contemplative writers. Think for a while and then when you feel like writing again, and you feel inspired to write, come back to Z/H where you obviously have online friends. I happen to think you are into solitude to get creative. Go be creative and contemplative in solitude but remember where the likeminded folks are and eventually come back. At least that way one is not purposely burning a bridge or saying chow forever. Ontologically, you will be back on Z/H whether you think so or not. In brief, on a long enough timeline we will all find ourselves on Z/H theoretically and literally.

Quantum Physics would have it no other way IMHO. Just as bearings go round so too does ontology. When your mind feels like saying something on Z/H let that mind speak, Do Chen. Do not sign off of Z/H. Hotel California has no taxi to take you to the airport!!!

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:36 | 5126298 honestann
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I totally understand.  Often I am tempted to give up the ZH addiction.  My hope has been that I'd help some honest thinker once in awhile, and if lucky, find someone to join our collaboration.

Though most of my comments get a lot of up-arrows, I get the impression they're from like minded individuals, not people I'm really helping in any significant way.  But of course I can't know for sure unless someone follows up with evidence in their reply.  Nobody with talents and interests (or funding) to join or help our endeavor has appeared either.

So... why do I waste my time?  Good question.

A Chinese acquaintence of mine who lived in the USSA for many years is looking for a small, simple business to start in Chile.  Would you be interested in helping them start a similar or offshoot of your biz in Chile?  Or do you think Chile is not a good target for this sort of biz (too many suppliers already, perhaps).  Anyway if you want me to put you in touch with them, let me know (here or by email to my ZH username at ymail dot you know what).

I hope you find better ways to spend time than posting in ZH.  Wish me the same.  And the will to actually stop, of course!  Others may not understand why you need to go "cold turkey" with ZH, but I do.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:48 | 5101246 barre-de-rire
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thy will break you, jail you,  kill you if you not obey.

 

u fucked anyway, dont dream

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:51 | 5101247 TeethVillage88s
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kchrisc;

John Perkins has an Interesting Point of View

He says that our NGO Organizations and our American Help actually prolong the Status Quo and the Misery. It is on Purpose too. The US Aid system allows more arms and money for arms to continue to flow into "unstable" regions. We do this so that we can buy the ore, precious metals, resources, or oil on the black market. I don't know the whole particulars. But we set up a system of sending in Aid workers, Peace Corps workers, and others who think they are going to teach new technology to the poor people. But the people actually have been farming for hundreds of years and can better teach any one else how to farm and profit.

Why have arms been flowing into Africa each year? Because of the System, the Western Colonial System or whatever you want to call it. The system is window dressing.

We want cheap resources and war and conflict allows soldiers to go in and get them and sell them cheaply to companies that supply to US Cell Phones and Computers.

Our dumb College kids are sent there to help, but really are just an expense that confuses or drags down democracy.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 06:17 | 5101462 UselessEater
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I got some questions about who this guy (Perkins) is playing for. Truth? Or an 'onion' layered agenda?

Y(es I read the actual books not clips etc before commenting)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 03:29 | 5101357 gatorboat
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"I only concern myself with Restoring the Constitutional republic and the American people to the American country by ousting the DC US usurpers and occupiers."

Your "concern" is a total failure obviously.  America is heading toward communism faster than I've even seen it before.  Some would argue we're already there.  They may be right.  

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:17 | 5102202 Turin Turambar
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Bingo.  Thanks for me saving the time to post this. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:15 | 5100816 Cabreado
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Too many words to describe an eventual, unchecked cabal of self-absorbed little persons, finally arranged in a critical mass.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:19 | 5100827 therevolutionwas
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There it is, our fate spelled out for us.  Give up. Give in.  You can't fight it.  They will have their way.  Too many sheeple.  Not enough wolves.  (But I suspect we all have our individual limits and will react when that limit is tested)  Good luck.  Have fun.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 03:11 | 5101342 Yen Cross
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Share, something original? 

   Ummm, You probably have some gay broker handling your procedes. You've obviously left your comfort zone for yield?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 05:06 | 5101416 Equality 7-25-1
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Being original for the sake of being original is for angry drunks. How you doing there brother?

The fuck stops here.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:24 | 5100836 Crawdaddy
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Strong work Brandon. The bad guys wouldn't have went to the trouble of printing Novus Ordo Seclorum on the back of every dollar if they didn't have ordo ab choa as a core mission. Synthesis, antithesis.

A toast to my fellows commited to throwing a wrench in their diabolical plan. A toast even if you are not commited.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:28 | 5100842 q99x2
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"Neither side blames the banksters"

Ya, that's what I been saying. Until you see some Russian and/or Chinese sharpshooters hit Dimon, Blankfein, LeGarde and the like the whole thing is a dog and pony show.

But there is really really dangerous tech out there and if morality of the individual breaks down such that right and wrong on an individual level is lost sight of WHO knows what could happen?

The old ways of sickos of the past might work quite a bit differently today and it seems like we are about to find out.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:30 | 5100852 Dead Man Walking
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it's never the order they thought it would be

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:25 | 5101001 Equality 7-25-1
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but it was obvious to all the grown ups, who the children were taught to ignore.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:00 | 5101086 knukles
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"Order out of Chaos" 
The NWO's Mantra

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:49 | 5101326 Yen Cross
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 It's about "pity party" time Knuks?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:31 | 5100854 VWAndy
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It is now and has been under control for a very long time. I came to this conclusion thru my understanding of technologies and how they are used. Its not the tool its how its used. Energy,transportation,food and water are all being monopolized this only works for those that wish to control others. Examples are there if you look.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:33 | 5100864 Crawdaddy
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Agenda 21 baby

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:49 | 5101245 Implied Violins
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I just pray to GOD that it's followed by Catch-22.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:41 | 5100855 Radical Marijuana
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Another excessively optimistic article, which presumes that the ruling classes are not criminally insane, and have not created so much chaos that they have actually lost control of everything, and so, there may never be any new order emerge out of that. I am not disputing anything in that article above, almost all of which I was already aware of. What I am saying is that what worked for thousands of years has become rampant criminal insanity, that is not going to work for anyone!

To emphasize those points, I emphasize this previous article, and put that inside of a bigger context:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-14/we’ve-opened-gates-hell

We’ve Opened the Gates of Hell

Cognitive Dissonance had asked:

"When will the madness stop?"

NEVER. IN OUR REMAINING LIFE!

At the present time, the main dialectical debate in my mind is not the social insanities surrounding atomic energy, but rather the bigger picture about climate change, which I could currently summarize as my attempts to guess which one of the following views will turn out to be more correct:

Guy McPherson versus Ben Davidson

http://guymcpherson.com/2013/01/climate-change-summary-and-update/

versus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PDC5s3VD7I&list=PLHSoxioQtwZcqdt3LK6d66tMreI4gqIC-

Basically, are changes in the combined Sun/Earth magnetic systems going to give us a temporary break from the otherwise apparently runaway feedbacks of greenhouse gas mechanisms? (At the present time, I feel I am clutching at the straws of some reasonable hope for the former, to postpone the latter.)

THE WAYS THAT ATOMIC ENERGY WERE DEVELOPED WERE THE SPEAR POINT OF THE WAYS THAT A SOCIETY DOMINATED BY LIES BACKED BY VIOLENCE DID EVERYTHING WITH ATTITUDES OF EVIL DELIBERATE IGNORANCE. In my view, the irreconcilable social polarization trends are trumped by the irreparable destruction of the natural world trends. Those two trends are in vicious spirals with each one enabling the other. The problems of apes with atomic bombs were compounded by the ways that every economic decision was always made on the basis of the biggest bullies' bullshit prevailing, because everything was driven by the ways that lies were backed up with violence. Since nothing could stop that happening, nothing could stop the pattern of evil deliberate ignorance dominating the development of atomic energy, the same as everything else.

THE PREVIOUS TRIUMPHS OF BRINGING ORDER OF OUT CHAOS HAVE CREATED FAR TOO MUCH CHAOS FOR ANY ORDER TO EMERGE OUT OF THAT WITHIN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE!

RATHER, THE RULING CLASSES ARE CARRYING THROUGH A CRIMINALLY INSANE AGENDA, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAD THE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND POLITICAL HABITS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT!

Personally, after several decades of attempting to do something about those trends, I have abandoned all reasonable hope for the future. In my own little life, I would say that conclusion became clear since about 2008 onwards. I no longer am able to maintain even the slightest shreds of idealistic optimism towards the foreseeable future. I have concluded that the triumphant control of civilization through enforced frauds, so much, for so long, enabling so much evil deliberate ignorance, about everything, from atomic energy on down, has already accumulated to the point of being irreversible.

That madness is NEVER going to end, but rather get worse, faster, for as long as we are still alive to be able to observe that happening ... Since all those trends follow exponentially accelerating, self-reinforcing paths, the time remaining for our lives to still feel somewhat "normal," or even within the "new normal," is disappearing. Some of us, in more privileged environments, may well have some years left to look forward to being able to act in our accustomed ways, inside of a "new normal" that has not yet gotten too extremely abnormal. However, depending upon the outcome of who turns out to have been more correct, Guy McPherson or Ben Davidson, as I linked above, then the next few decades could become MORE ABNORMAL THAN WE CAN CURRENTLY IMAGINE! At the present time, I am personally betting that Ben Davidson provides some correct qualifications to Guy McPherson's views. Therefore, I believe that we may have some more time, inside that bigger picture, to allow the other basic forms of runaway madness, such as the MAD Money As Debt systems, backed by the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction systems, to play through.

I now believe we have already reached the point where nothing remotely like the civilization that we knew will be able to survive through to the 22nd Century. There are no good reasons whatsoever that I can perceive to enable believing that human societies will stop being controlled by lies backed by violence, so that our problems are "solved" in ways that actually make them worse!

IF any human beings are still alive in the 22nd Century, then they will be living in ways which are impossible for us to imagine now, because virtually all of the natural world that we now take for granted will be gone by then. At the present time, I believe that the Sun is giving us a break from the consequences of the greenhouse gas mechanisms. However, basically, I still believe that human beings burning all the fuels that they could, as fast as they could, has practically cancelled out any future that I would like to imagine. Of course, the ways that atomic energy did that was the most extreme example, however, everything our civilization did with its advancing science and technology was done of the basis of that society being controlled by enforced frauds, which enabled attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance. When I look around at the world today, I see no good grounds to believe that madness will ever end. The same basic mechanisms of lies backed by violence, through vicious spirals of social polarization, are obviously getting worse, faster, while the background events of the overall destruction of the nature world are trumping that, in ways whereby their runaway exponential accelerations are only just beginning to be noticed, before their next few doublings become an overwhelming avalanche of changes.

Anything which causes civilization as we know it to be unable to continue, will leave several hundred nuclear power plants in the lurch, as places of the maximum environmental destruction, surrounded by overall globalized environmental destruction. After worrying about that for several decades, and doing everything I possibly could to try to prevent that from happening, finally, during the last seven years, or so, I have come around to conclusions that nothing is going to stop that.

Example of how bad things seem to really be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1FrscZBjhc

HORROR

"Pacific Ocean Now Dead From Fukushima Radiation"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20HYCDKKKmg

The same severely devastating destruction
out on the west coast of Vancouver Island.

Pick whichever disaster from the palettes:

During the previous 150 years, the vast abundance of sea life in the Pacific North West has been 99% wiped out. It was already 90% wiped out a decade ago, during the previous Century or so. However, the destruction has been accelerating drastically, as the videos linked above demonstrate has happened even out on the wilder west coast of Vancouver Island, like it has on the inside passage between that Island and the mainland. IT IS HARD TO WATCH THOSE TWO VIDEOS AND HAVE THEIR MEANING GRADUALLY SINK IN, THAT 99% OF THE ONCE ABUNDANT LIFE ON THE COASTS OF THE PACIFIC NORTH WEST IS GONE ...

It is in that context that it does not surprise me that there is apparently enough evidence that the recent Ebola outbreak started in a very suspicious way, that indicates there may have been criminal negligence, or criminal insanity, behind that. Overall, there is now overwhelming evidence that human societies were controlled by lies backed by violence for so long, so much, which facilitated attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance, which have set up the conditions where the accumulating disasters have been picking up size and speed at an exponential rate, so that things even a few more doubling times into the future are impossible to fully imagine.

As with the death of the Pacific Ocean, that has been getting worse, faster, for a couple of Centuries, from whaling, on through to over-fishing generally, to which was then added every kind of chemical pollution, with the radioactivity from Fukushima being the latest layer of destruction piled on top of all the rest, so that, as I said, the life in the Pacific North West, which was one of the last places that the European Invasions put on its map, have systematically wiped out more and more of the natural environment there, so that there are now only a few junk species left that can still survive.

The same patterns of evil deliberate ignorance that we saw in official lie after lie, behind building the atomic power plants, and then attempting to cover up the facts about their disasters, are the same with respect to the slow motion train wreck of the Pacific Ocean ecologies, and those same patterns are now being found, for instance, in the ways that the Ebola outbreak is manifesting.

http://www.marijuanaparty.ca/article.php3?id_article=411

Add all the other level after level of similar sorts of human driven disasters, that have all been driven out of human control, and I no longer perceive any feasible ways to cope with these runaway sorts of problems ... I can not imagine actually doing anything but continuing to watch, and wait, as all these kinds of trends automatically continue to get worse, faster. The final results of the human world being dominated by enforced frauds are that we have behaved with so much evil deliberate ignorance towards what we were doing, for so long, that it now appears too late to stop what has thereby been caused to happen.

There seems no point to reading news articles, nor posting any comments, that I can see ... but then, there is nothing else which is possible to do either. People who talk about being prepared for this emerging series of disaster after disaster, multiplying each other, appear to me to be delusionally optimistic. The more you know, the worse it gets ... to the point where there no longer are any possible ways to be prepared, nor respond to this overall runaway social insanity situation, which has allowed its consequences to develop to the point where there no longer are any ways that human beings could bring these runaway trends back under control.

The madness is NEVER going to end! Although I agreed with everything that this recent article by Brandon Smith stated, I no longer believe that it matters much. It is excessively optimistic to believe that the rulings classes are going to bring back order out of the chaos that they have created. The developments of technologies which are trillions of times more powerful have transformed the agenda of the ruling classes into out of control criminal insanities.

NOBODY IS IN CONTROL ANYMORE, AND

UNPREDICTABLE WHO MIGHT SURVIVE!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:40 | 5100885 Crawdaddy
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Rad MaryJane You must have had that in the hopper for some time. Brandon Smith, excessive optimist. J'auccuse!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:50 | 5100915 Harry Dong
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perhaps you are conflating?

 

Last winter when news media speculated about a connection between the Fukushima nuclear disaster and the sea star die-off, researchers at UC Santa Cruz, who have been monitoring Pacific tide pools for decades, posted on their Sea Star Wasting Syndrome Updates page that, “there has been substantial speculation in the media that the disease could be a result of increased radiation from the nuclear power plant disaster in Fukushima, Japan. We have no evidence to suggest that radiation is a likely culprit.”

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:05 | 5101100 knukles
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Nor do they have any evidence to suggest it is not.
In short, they've no fucking clue.
And are ignoring the obvious exogenous shock.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:14 | 5101276 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Obviously, it were the MUTOs beginning to hatch.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 14:41 | 5101286 Radical Marijuana
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I am NOT sure that the Fukushima radiation, by itself, caused the apparent mass extinction. What I am sure of, from watching those two videos that I linked, (as well as many other sources of information) is that there has been an obvious mass extinction of life along the coasts of the Pacific North West. (The starfish die-off, that the news media somewhat covered, was one one small aspect of that.) I think that the general chemical pollution was as much to fault as any additional radiation. (I doubt that the radiation from Fukushima did more than add another injury to the overall accumulating effects.) However, the basic FACT is that the oceans are dying! That fits into all of the rest of the trends and predictions, regarding WHY I assert that the destruction of the natural world trumps the problems of social polarization. Making political arguments which ignore the background biological facts, such as that the oceans are dying, is grossly mistaken, because social polarization IS TRUMPED by destruction of the natural world!

Meanwhile, most of the world of finance operates through its fraudulent accounting fantasy land, which is thought of through a sort of sublime economics, which has no relationship to real ecologies. Most of what people talk about in the context of class warfare tends to take for granted the general background of the natural world, as something which can continue to be taken for granted. People presume we can continue to fight amongst ourselves, with the winners taking all. What I seriously worry about is that everyone is going to end up losing. Nobody is going to win!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 02:30 | 5104276 MEAN BUSINESS
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Sea Sick Alanna Mitchell (Canadian journalist) 2008 and Peter Ward Under A Green Sky are two books I have read fairly recently. It was Gwynne Dyer's 'Climate Wars' that led me to the "Canfield Ocean" Ward discussed. As Pink Floyd said, "goodbye, blue sky..."

A few updates from the bureaucrati:

06JUN14

"Throughout the day, Ministers and senior Party representatives had a rich exchange and made interventions that aimed to guide work on increasing ambition before 2020 and next steps on the road to Paris." (emphasis mine lol)

08AUG14

Sheesh these bureaucrats are everywhere! but what was most interesting to me was the picture showing Brazil, South Africa, India (host), and China reps. Where's the Russian rep???

 

Text of the Joint Statement issued at the 18th BASIC Ministerial Meeting on Climate Change

 

Mean While from Nature 31JUL14:
Mysterious Siberian crater attributed to methane

"spooky"

 

(and thanks for the reply the other day RM)

 

p.s. we're about one month away from Ban's Big Summit in NYC. I know how many feel about the UN but rejoice for this is a chance to see the UN stare into the abyss that is a methane crater in Siberia!!!, a glimpse of what's beyond, just down that road a few (15) short months away. I am SURE Russia will be in THAT picture!

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 22:03 | 5112411 Radical Marijuana
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Mysterious Siberian crater attributed to methane

"spooky"

And proportionately scary, depending upon how much one feels one can reasonably hope for some break from the Sun, to mitigate those runaway greenhouse gas mechanims:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0DcpRAPk_w&list=UUTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTW...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:40 | 5101032 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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I agree with you Radical Marijuana. There is no possible way to get out of what is about to manifest and no matter how much hubris 'the elites' think they have it ain't going to get them where they think they are going to go. There is no hope whatsover and I am with you on the impossibility of such a feat of 'restoring order'. The notion is futile at best. As a believer in God, I have marked the date of March 10th 2008 @ 11:00am Bear Stearns time as being the start of 'the graet tribulation'. The Bible gives us seven years from that date if my calculus is correct. I am related to Sir Issac Newton so I might have an edge here somewhat. ;)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 14:57 | 5101322 Radical Marijuana
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Well, I believe that Energy is Spirit, so that some signatures of God are the apparent principles of the conservation of energy and momentum. I believe that energy will be conserved. However, that does not mean that times of severe social storms can be stopped from happening, after so much energy has been pumped up into making them. In my view, the only thing that compares to these times were the times billions of years ago when life developed photosynthesis. There is nothing in human history which remotely compares to these times of exponential progress in science and technology.

It is an open question whether or not that progress in science can survive its consequences, especially since the first things done with new technologies tended to be making new weapons. I like to propose the idea that we need a series of profound paradigm shifts, or intellectual scientific revolutions, which would be applied to politics, in order to perhaps survive through the development of exponential progress in science and technology. However, so far, we have mostly used powers which were trillions of times greater in the most evil, deliberately ignorant ways.

It is almost impossible to imagine what a society would look like that became more scientific about itself. In my view, that would require a creative synthesis of post-modernizing science with ancient mysticism. That would mean going far back before the Bible, in order to then be able to go far beyond the Bible. Personally, I regard the Bible as being a small part of the data base. However, I do take your point that Issac Newton, one of the greatest giants in the history of science, was also seriously concerned with mysticism, as understood during his times. I think that mainstream science today is a tragic victim of the biggest bullies' bullshit dominating the development of the philosophy of science, just as that dominated every other social enterprise.

I like to day dream about the possible emergence of a transnational scientific community, which may be forged by surviving through the times of tribulation ahead. I do not think that one needs the Bible to predict that runaway exponential growth can result in a boom leading to a bust, and that the biggest boom, will result in the biggest bust. I believe that we are necessarily headed through the psychotic breakdown of the established social systems based on enforced frauds, and that, there must be times of severe social storms, or tribulations, which may well be metaphorically interpreted through various possible readings of the Bible.

However, I am not now confident that "we" will survive through those processes. I am not sure that science will not end up paradoxically destroying itself, by enabling a society based on backing up lies with violence to become too madly self-destructive, not only of itself, but of the natural world around it. At the present time, the dominant groups of human beings are acting with extreme attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance, which are surely going to be the source of the worst suffering in the foreseeable future!

However, the existence of severe social storms does not change the laws of nature, but only demonstrates how those could manifest. In ancient Sanskrit there was a word "Rudra," which meant divine violence, which could include anything from asteroid impacts, to super volcano eruptions, etc. ... Man-made natural disasters are possibly on that list of RUDE things that can happen, to make us cry, at that tragedy. However, those events still operate with the Spirit of Energy.

There is no doubt that, at the present time, the human species is causing the mass extinction of many other species, and is doing so with an attitude of evil deliberate ignorance towards the consequences of even doing that to mankind itself. At the present time, given the degree to which society is dominated by the people who were the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, who directed the progress in science and technology to be applied to make weapons, and rape the natural world, we are clearly headed towards mad self-destruction.

I would like to minimize or mitigate that. However, I can not imagine anything remotely possible which can practically do that at the present time. The established economy IS based on runaway systems of enforced frauds, and within that context there are no practical ways to change the political processes, which were made and maintained in those ways, so much, for so long. The established systems are controlled by money, in vicious spirals of madness, while nothing outside of that madness has much effect upon that!

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 21:54 | 5103626 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Destruction of modern civilization and population is a mathematical certainty with p=1.0. What remains after that destruction plays out

will be self guiding. This civilization is running off the rails like Lemmings off of cliffs. It is human nature to build these systems that fail after a century or so. Some civilizations last for centuries and other last for thousands of years. Modern Capitalism is not such a system that survives for any length of time before the currency falls prey to

deflation/inflation and an expected crash. The Western model of Capitalism has run a normal lifecycle in terms of currency and it is time to renew the world and people with the sort of revolution that will bring about the kinds of qualiative/quantitative changes we are collectively seeking to better our lives and the lives of our offspring.

The USA and the Western World are at a crossroads on every level of being and life now. It is incumbent upon us to come up with the solutions we will collectively need to survive and live past the current impossible situation that we are all in now. Empiricism has never let me down in my entire life and I don't believe it will ever let me down as a guiding theory of what needs to be done in the

aftermath of what we are about to witness en masse with this current World. The politics will eventually get ironed out along with

corruption, disinformation/truth et cetera. We are inherently warmhearted people with spirit and the requisite intelligence to

maintain our being and what will be left of civilization. The hawks will not win at war and the doves will always survive in some form or another. Spiritually, in the Anglican tradition, 'the World is without end'. Ontologically, 'the World is without end'. Following the logic of Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanical Engineering/ Quantum Theory, the World is without end. Epistemologically, the World is without end. In brief, energy does not just disappear as you correctly assert above. Existentially, conciousness just changes shape when we die. Life is good and I love Theory. ;)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:31 | 5100857 Cognitive Dissonance
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Well done Brandon. Nice work.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:33 | 5100865 ramacers
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it has been , is and will be for at least the near future the case that the .001 see themselves as the indisputable arbriters (elitists) of civilized order.

get down to 99.9 and things will look a whole lot better.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:16 | 5100984 Oldwood
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As has always been, those who create the destruction all around us offer themselves up as the only solution, and the policies and actions that brought us to this point the only salvation in the doubling down thereof. Chaos has always been their tool of choice to force change from the desperation of the population, but they can only direct the chaos, not ultimately control it. It will reach a critical mass that will exceed all limits of control. We will all be likely praying that God actually does exist, because all other hope will be gone.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:35 | 5101024 photonsoflight
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Rest assured there is a plan that takes into account what TPTB plan. Their time grows short. Even though they plan large population reductions they will ultimately fail. If anything, they have insured their own destruction.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:37 | 5100873 blindman
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Holocaust Honor From Israel Is Sent Back After Gaza Deaths
By CHRISTOPHER F. SCHUETZE and ANNE BARNARDAUG. 15, 2014
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THE HAGUE — In 1943, Henk Zanoli took a dangerous train trip, slipping past Nazi guards and checkpoints to smuggle a Jewish boy from Amsterdam to the Dutch village of Eemnes. There, the Zanoli family, already under suspicion for resisting the Nazi occupation, hid the boy in their home for two years. The boy would be the only member of his family to survive the Holocaust.

Seventy-one years later, on July 20, an Israeli airstrike flattened a house in the Gaza Strip, killing six of Mr. Zanoli’s relatives by marriage. His grandniece, a Dutch diplomat, is married to a Palestinian economist, Ismail Ziadah, who lost three brothers, a sister-in-law, a nephew and his father’s first wife in the attack.
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Hassan al-Zeyada, a psychologist who works at the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, at his home in Gaza.In Fatal Flash, Gaza Psychologist Switches Roles, Turning Into a Trauma VictimAUG. 4, 2014
On Thursday, Mr. Zanoli, 91, whose father died in a Nazi camp, went to the Israeli Embassy in The Hague and returned a medal he received honoring him as one of the Righteous Among the Nations — non-Jews honored by Israel for saving Jews during the Holocaust. In an anguished letter to the Israeli ambassador to the Netherlands, he described the terrible price his family had paid for opposing Nazi tyranny.
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Hassan al-Zeyada, a Palestinian psychologist in Gaza, whose brother Ismail Ziadah is married to Mr. Zenoli's grandniece. Credit Sergey Ponomarev for The New York Times
“My sister lost her husband, who was executed in the dunes of The Hague for his involvement in the resistance,” he wrote. “My brother lost his Jewish fiancée who was deported, never to return.”

Mr. Zanoli continued, “Against this background, it is particularly shocking and tragic that today, four generations on, our family is faced with the murder of our kin in Gaza. Murder carried out by the State of Israel.”

His act crystallizes the moral debate over Israel’s military air and ground assault in the Gaza Strip, in which about 2,000 people, a majority of them civilians, have been killed. Israel says the strikes are aimed at Hamas militants who fire rockets at Israeli cities and have dug a secret network of tunnels into Israel.

Mr. Zanoli transformed over the decades from a champion to a critic of the Israeli state, mirroring a larger shift in Europe, where anguish over the slaughter of six million European Jews led many to support the founding of Israel in 1948 as a haven for Jews worldwide.

But in the years since Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza during the 1967 war, Europeans have become more critical. Israel blames anti-Semitism, which has grown in Europe with the rise of right-wing politicians. Some European protests against Israeli military action have been marred in recent weeks by open anti-Semitism, blurring the line between criticism of Israeli policy and hate speech against Jews. But many other critics, like Mr. Zanoli, say their objection to Israeli policy is not anti-Jewish but consistent with the humanitarian principles that led them to condemn the Holocaust and support the founding of a Jewish state.
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“I gave back my medal because I didn’t agree with what the state of Israel is doing to my family and to the Palestinians on the whole,” Mr. Zanoli said in an interview Friday in his spare but elegant apartment, adding that his decision was a statement “only against the state of Israel, not the Israeli people.”
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“Jews were our friends,” said Mr. Zanoli, a retired lawyer who uses a motorized scooter but remains erect and regal, much as he appears in a yellowing 1940s photograph archived at the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem.

Mr. Zanoli said he had never publicly criticized Israel “until I heard that my family was the victim.”

In Gaza, Mr. Zanoli’s in-laws say his gesture is a fitting response to the losses of their family and others who have lost multiple relatives in strikes on homes. Those in-laws include Hassan al-Zeyada, a psychological trauma counselor who is an older brother of Ismail Ziadah. Their mother, Muftiyah, 70, was the oldest family member to die in the bombing.

Like Mr. Zanoli, Dr. Zeyada, 50, who works to treat the many Palestinians in Gaza traumatized by war and displacement, has given much thought to the fact that Israel was founded after the Holocaust, one of history’s greatest collective traumas.

Dr. Zeyada, who transliterates his family name differently from his brother, said Friday that he admired Mr. Zanoli and his family for their struggle in World War II against “discrimination and oppression in general and against the Jews in particular.”

“For them,” he added, “it’s something painful that the people you defended and struggled for turn into aggressors.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/world/middleeast/henk-zanoli-israel-ga...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:53 | 5100922 therevolutionwas
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:05 | 5100951 ramacers
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got it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:07 | 5100957 ramacers
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got it.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:51 | 5101166 RafterManFMJ
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Mr. Zanoli said he had never publicly criticized Israel “until I heard that my family was the victim

Ahhhh.... Well how about that.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:40 | 5100880 Yen Cross
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  I'm going to sleep on it.

  No you aren't! You're going to make some decisions !  "sound familiar"?

 

 Zero/Hedge is an financial website/

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:42 | 5100892 ramacers
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it has been , is and will be for at least the near future the case that the .001 see themselves as the indisputable arbriters (elitists) of civilized order.

get down to 99.9 and things will look a whole lot better.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:50 | 5100911 Yen Cross
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 I'm looking at these charts. I'm getting ready to fly to Oceania next week. 

 My mouth is shut!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:51 | 5100907 roccman
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 The earth is not worth saving.  It was created by a second rate God the demiurge. Our spirit has been enslaved in matter. The "order" the maggots on high envision is not enslavement of the common man...we are already enslaved... the order will come from CERN...and to run a machine like CERN...you need a population of 7 billion to get those with iqs of over 200 to mix a dmt/higgs boson soup...CERN...is the ticket off this doomed rock for the few...we are merely the slaves making it possible for them. The meek will in fact inherit the earth...radiated and plagued... this kill off is not about power and greed... it is about extinguishing hope.

 

This plan is ancient...global...and likely interdimensional.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:40 | 5101035 photonsoflight
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I have more hope now then I ever did. TPTB time is almost up.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:54 | 5101173 RafterManFMJ
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It's curious how your nutty rambling is more interesting than the plots of any 10 of this years HollyWood movies.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 10:26 | 5101799 mvsjcl
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Ouch!. Considering how bad movies have become....

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 10:13 | 5101759 grunk
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Plus there's nobody on this rock who knows how to make a decent reuben sandwich.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:56 | 5100929 Yen Cross
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   The Mediocrity on Zero Hedge, is unacceptable Tyler.

    You realize I'm being facetious?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:55 | 5100930 Karaio
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This guy is a Jew? 

Many interesting quote a biased text. 

A stupid question: 

He cited China / India / Brazil / Germany / South Africa at some point? 

answer: 

Do not! 

He cites generally BRICS and East. 

In my view, it is a text that explains the dread of banksters. 

The guys are the butt in hand, terrified. 

There will be a French Revolution guillotine with worldwide but this time no heads will roll kings. 

Heads will roll in the form of financial institutions. 

hehe. 

Let the circus catch fire and take care of their families.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:56 | 5100932 BanksterSlayer
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Tyler: this is one of your most important op-eds to-date. And all of us conspiracy theorists suffered a momentary brain fart as we realized that our fringe beliefs just now went mainstream.

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:06 | 5100954 Karaio
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Tyler kick the balls of the guy. 

Many commentators have lost teeth. 

hehe.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:11 | 5100966 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Brandon Smith seems to be living in a land of delusion if he thinks

'the elites' will ever bring 'order out of chaos' after the USA crashes

into Chapter 11 wholesale. When the FED 'Greenspan bubble' pops

there is a little mathematical matter of a $1.4 quadrillion petro-dollar

derivatives universe that will unwind whether 'the elites' like it or not and there is absolutely nothing that 'the elites' can do about it because the $1.4 quadrillion derivatives universe does not differentiate between 'the elites' or 'the masses' that 'the elites' had tried to enslave for over a century. Karl Marx was spot on when he claimed that the masses would rise up and overthrow 'the elites'

to eventually come around to a socialist system. Americans just can't take the fact that Capitalism is dead and so is Elvis. Dream all you want about the good old days of 'American Exceptionalism' and

'Capitalist elites' because that is all you will ever have left of the lies that Americans have been force fed for over a century. Americans are in a bankrupt country that has a destroyed superstructure and is not going to rebuild by simply opting for a re-set on 'cap n' trade'

or 'carbon based trading'. The failure of the entire superstructure of the USA manifested in a split second of time when expectations changed on trades with Bear Stearns on March 10th 2008 @ 11:00am. The end of American Hegemony occured in that instant

and American Hegemony is completely defunct in today's contemporary historiography of global economies proper. Americans

are deluded en masse and will die out as a people as they had planned to do to all other countries in the world with the exception of the USofA. In brief, American are sliding down a razor blade going 500,000 miles per hour and using what's left of their balls as breaks,

and they are about to fall into a pit of iodine, as they say. I think I'll run with the skeptics on this one, America.

OCCUPY WALL STREET - OCCUPY EVERYTHING 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:33 | 5101019 john39
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i think we need to consider what they mean by order.  this is a concept different than what most believe.  The NWO is satanic at the core.  and while even most conspiracy theorists will dismiss what I am saying, look hard enough and the picture begins to emerge.  They are waiting to remake the world in a satanic image, with themselves as a protected elite, ruling over a planet of slaves.  order will be maintained through a level of brutality that few can imagine.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:42 | 5101044 photonsoflight
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So more of the same then?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:54 | 5101070 john39
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most of us are still in the chaos stage I would say.   they still have to make their final play, and that is where they lose.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:44 | 5101538 negative rates
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It's a game of numbers John, we need a financial emancipation or the masses will whittle the law to pieces so they no longer exist in enough force to pose the problem that they were. Bartertown bitches.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:58 | 5101083 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The Satanic order you are referring to was taken down on March 10th 2008 @ 11:00am Bear Stearns time. Their plans of complete totalitarian control were thwarted at that instant and the 'Illuminati'

does not have the mathematical knowhow to figure out what went wrong with their carefully crafted 'Ponzi/pyramid' scheme. I know exactly what happened and I assure you that 'Skull N' Bones' does not

know shit-from-shine-O-la apart from theater. The great conspiracy to

control the world ended on March 10th 2008 with the downing of Bear Stears. The only mind in the world that was smart enough to figure it out before it happen was Dr. Rajan. No ther Economist

in the world actually figured it out before Dr. Rajan did. Within our current world population Ragurham Rajan is the smartest Economist

the world has ever known. He warned the motherfucker Banksters of the world at a world Banksters meeting and Larry Summers told him he was acting like 'a Luddite'. Larry Summers is the dumbest man in the world and Ragurham Rajan is the smartest. Further, the 'establishment' is already running scared with Ferguson and they have opted to put new management in the form of policing with 'The Hiway Patrol' instead of the old police force because they cannot afford to piss the American people off more than they are presently. Don't ever kid yourself here, the USA elites are frightened out of their minds and do not know what to do about their situtation. The hawks want war but everyone knows that will further bankrupt the USA quicker. There is no way out for the USA

and they are going down for the count for sure.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 00:25 | 5101130 luckystars
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You could be right. I don't know of this guy but I know of astrology.

We are on the precipise worldwide and what is now won't be later.

We are at revolution time.

Now that can be new world order or it can be real revolution.

remains to be seen in the next 1.5 yrs.

Gov knows this which is why they are preppers.

 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 06:09 | 5101456 fel.temp.reparatio
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...any further reading available on this somewhere?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 00:28 | 5104038 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Raghuram Rajan's 2005 paper is on Google. Z/H has a whole list of stuff Raghuram Rajan wrote. Just use the search engine on Z/H for tons of stuff on Raghuram Rajan. And check out 'expectations' with regard to changes in probability on trades. Look at the Bear Stearns

last seven days and the articles speculating on their take down.

Watch Frontline's _Inside the Meltdown_, and _Breaking the Bank_.

What exactly are you looking for?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:20 | 5104796 fel.temp.reparatio
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thanks for the suggestions... i'll look into rajan's stuff

not looking for anything in particular, i just enjoy learning

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:45 | 5101541 negative rates
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Say what?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 00:32 | 5104054 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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What

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 11:02 | 5101921 Kirk2NCC1701
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john39, you use the term "Satanic" and others use the term "Luciferian".  I find it extremely difficult to believe that in this day and age, highly intelligent, well-educated and extremely informed Elite would worship anything at all (in the classic sense of worship), least of all "Satan" or "Lucifer".

I submit that even such clubs/orgs/groups use it as nothing more than a "Flag of Convenience", and that whatever rituals and mumbo-jumbo they might practice, is nothing more than a gimmick for its leaders to control its members.

Verily I say unto thee that... mankind shall never grow up and be free until it has outgrown its childish myths and superstitions, childish fairy tales.  We should not bend our knees, bow to or "worship" any self-proclaimed deity -- until they've shown some ID, and impressed us openly, publicly and massively with technology, energy levels and intellectual concepts that go WAY beyond the quaint tribal drivel that we call "religion", and goes way beyond what we today consider as "wisdom".  IOW... I'll settle for nothing less than a Type II or Type III Galactic Civilization on the Kardashev scale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale).  All the alleged miracles/wonders of the Bible is stuff we can do today or in the next few decades.

Sorry buddy, but my standards and requirements are much, much higher and tougher than that of 99.99% of the populace, when it comes to any "Deity".  And seeing that you're a smart, rational and reasonable/reason-able guy, I hope that your standards are high also -- in spite of the biblical reference of your stage name.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 11:29 | 5102051 Kirk2NCC1701
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p.s. The only literal "worship" of this mythical entity that people call "Lucifer" (Light Bearer) or "Satan" (Adversary) is if they found archeological evidence of a crash-landed UFO, and an angel-like humanoid enity, whose DNA they are trying to use to bring it/him back to life -- in the form of an Alien-Human hybrid.  In that sense, and using Biblical passages for inspiration, they can make the Antichrist a self-fulfilling prophecy. 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 11:32 | 5102059 viahj
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Lucifer was the "light bringer" whose knowledge would allow men to become gods of their own right.  Illuminati (illumination) is the transformance from mortal man to a higher state of godliness.  http://vigilantcitizen.com/

 

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 12:38 | 5102290 Crawdaddy
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Kirk I always enjoy your posts, even occasions such as this where you propose intelligence and belief in a higher power are mutually exclusive.

Ironically, search for meaning in the secular world leads many to conclude God is real. There are many famous examples of scientists who became believers in a higher power after spending their lives believing in randomness. Faith is everywhere in the secular world but since it is a faith unaffiliated with a religion it flies under the radar. Evolution, global warming, carbon dating are examples of faith based “science”. At their core, each example demands suspension of the rules of evidence in order to avoid answering questions that undermine the theory. It may be entirely coincidental these examples were hijacked and promulgated by those attempting to disprove the biblical faith and supplant it with a new system of faith in which man is God.

Of course if you don't believe in God anyway, this notion is foolish. It is always a curious question - why do those who don't believe in God work so hard to prove he doesn't exist?

It is hard to believe anyone with an inquisitive mind can conclude there is such a thing as God or Lucifer because proof is impossible and it becomes a matter of faith. Faith is inherently subjective. A skeptic who demands direct evidence or a scientific approach (e.g. reproducible evidence) will quickly discover faith cannot withstand rules of evidence. In the biblical view this is known as the parable of Doubting Thomas.

:)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 16:06 | 5102836 luckystars
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It absolutely is. Im thinking this must happen and we are all wasting our time trying to stop it.

Because it is the ONLY thing that makes sense.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 23:14 | 5100972 sleigher
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